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post Mar 19 2020, 05:30 PM, updated 6y ago

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MORATORIUM PEMBIAYAAN BANK SEMPENA WABAK COVID

Apa itu moratorium?

Moratorium adalah penangguhan rasmi bayaran ansuran bulanan daripada pembayar kepada pihak bank tanpa caj penalti atau denda.

Ini bermakna pelanggan bank tidak perlu membayar ansuran peribadi atau rumah atau kenderaan atau lain-lain selama 6 bulan, bayaran ansuran akan bersambung setelah tempoh moratorium tamat.

Persatuan Bank dalam Malaysia mengumumkan ahli-ahlinya komited dalam membantu rakyat Malaysia menghadapi Perintah Kawalan Pergerakan kerana wabak COVID-19 ini.

Antara bank atau entiti pembiayaan yang telah secara rasmi membuat pengumuman menawarkan moratorium kepada pelanggan mereka baik individu atau syarikat kecil dan sederhana adalah:

1. Bank Rakyat
2. SME Bank
3. TEKUN
4. Bank Simpanan Nasional
5. Public Bank dan Public Islamic Bank
6. RHB Bank dan RHB Islamic Bank
7. AgroBank
8. Hong Leong Bank dan Hong Leong Islamic Bank
9. Maybank dan Maybank Islamic
10. Bank Islam Malaysia Berhad
11. Bank Muamalat Malaysia Berhad

Permohonan moratorium boleh dibuat di cawangan-cawangan bank atau melalui telefon bank masing-masing.
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post Mar 19 2020, 09:31 PM

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will it affect CCRIS CTOS? that's the main concern.
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How to opt in? Just call the bank is it?
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Moratorium don’t affect CCRIS as this is part of relief for individuals and SMEs effort.

Despite not paying the instalments for 6 months, the interest for the duration will still be charged. Hence, outstanding balance at the end of 6th month will be more.
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post Mar 20 2020, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(xHj09 @ Mar 19 2020, 09:31 PM)
will it affect CCRIS CTOS? that's the main concern.
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i believe it will.. My belief is CCRIS will put as default but the bank side just take note as a non default case.

As i think the bank is not going to declare the mortgage is settled for the 6 months since no payment is received.
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post Mar 20 2020, 05:34 PM

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does that mean the duration of my loan also extend by 6 mths or just follow the original plan?

new to this moratorium terms .. ><
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post Mar 20 2020, 06:22 PM

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To have your loan repayment extended you have to apply with your bank.

Its not automatically applied to everyone.

PBB fill in form and applied at your home branch.
RHB you can call and email customer.advocacy@rhbgroup.com with the supporting document
Am Bank have to fill in form

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Can use this free and surplus cash flow to BBB more property.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 20 2020, 07:56 PM)
Can use this free and surplus cash flow to BBB more property.
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U kena covid?
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Mar 21 2020, 10:38 AM)
U kena covid?
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If vaccine is not available in time, up to 80% of the world population could be infected.

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post Mar 21 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
If vaccine is not available in time, up to 80% of the world population could be infected.
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 21 2020, 10:44 AM)
If vaccine is not available in time, up to 80% of the world population could be infected.
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Unlikely it is not HIV, our antibody could combat the virus. Even it is a slow progression but surely our antibody will improve and adapt the new threat


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QUOTE(Azury36 @ Mar 23 2020, 01:08 AM)
Unlikely it is not HIV, our antibody could combat the virus. Even it is a slow progression but surely our antibody will improve and adapt the new threat
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Our body have antibody only after infected.
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For Public Bank, request for moratorium can directly email to mailto:customerservice@publicbank.com.my with heading request for Moratorium. Please indicate Name, Account Number, HandPhone number and if possible Branch you applied loan with.
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QUOTE(MyRegret @ Mar 20 2020, 06:34 PM)
does that mean the duration of my loan also extend by 6 mths or just follow the original plan?

new to this moratorium terms .. ><
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Duration of your loan will be extended for 6 month. you will continue to pay your repayment after the moratorium ends.

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I assume once you submit it's up to the bank to APPROVE/REJECT the moratorium, right ?
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What will happen to housing loan repayment by standing instruction? Automatically stop debiting as well?
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This is new announcement, normally auto debit accounts will suspend deduction as well unless you opt to continue payment.

Further SOP, need to confirm with your own Bankers,
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How if during these 6 months, you just service the principle and not the installment? Doable?
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 25 2020, 02:31 AM)
How if during these 6 months, you just service the principle and not the installment? Doable?
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Moratorium is a payment holiday up to 6 months, hence interest on the loan still charged. It is not like zero interest period for 6 months.

So it is either you continue payment or just enjoy 6 months payment holiday and let your loan balance increase for the next 6 months.
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post Mar 25 2020, 08:14 AM

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Very confusing so need to apply or auto???
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So if I don't want this scheme, I can continue paying as BAU?
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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Mar 25 2020, 06:54 AM)
Moratorium is a payment holiday up to 6 months, hence interest on the loan still charged.  It is not like zero interest period for 6 months.

So it is either you continue payment or just enjoy 6 months payment holiday and let your loan balance increase for the next 6 months.
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Better to pay promptly if you are able too. Otherwise you will need to pay extra interest. Not interest free. If interest free bank will go burst

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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Mar 25 2020, 10:25 AM)
Better to pay promptly if you are able too. Otherwise you will need to pay extra interest. Not interest free. If interest free bank will go burst
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i think the best arrangement could be bank continue to charge interest on a monthly basis but these interest charges should be interest free and will be repaid after the moratorium period..
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Is interesr still rolled on principles in this 6 months?
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QUOTE(gsem984 @ Mar 25 2020, 11:05 AM)
Is interesr still rolled on principles in this 6 months?
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Yes.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/sixm...iduals-and-smes

"However, loan and interest repayments accrued during the six months will not be waived."
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For car loan, it is straight forward right? Nothing about accrued interest?
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so if load then that's 6 months extra interest need to pay the bank?
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 25 2020, 08:14 AM)
Very confusing so need to apply or auto???
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as i understand it's case by case basis where you need to furnish proof of inability to pay
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So far, most news has clearly stated interest is accrued, not waived.

BNM wrote to every banks to tell banks to adopt automatic moratorium (AM).
Individual bank will inform how they carry out the measure.
So, I believed customer will be informed by banks about the details about that AM later on.

So, how existing SI or auto-debit payment will be affected, wait until individual banks information then, which I believed will come out soon.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 25 2020, 11:36 AM)
So far, most news has clearly stated interest is accrued, not waived.

BNM wrote to every banks to tell banks to adopt automatic moratorium (AM).
Individual bank will inform how they carry out the measure.
So, I believed customer will be informed by banks about the details about that AM later on.

So, how existing SI or auto-debit payment will be affected, wait until individual banks information then, which I believed will come out soon.
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I see many conflicting news regarding whether the interest will be waived or not. Anyone here have an official statement from bank or official announcement from individual bank? I have not seen any announcement from any bank yet regarding this item.

Calling their hotline is near impossible now as its always busy. Seems like we just have to be patient.

if anyone have any official information on the interest, please do share it! thanks
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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Mar 25 2020, 05:54 AM)
Moratorium is a payment holiday up to 6 months, hence interest on the loan still charged.  It is not like zero interest period for 6 months.

So it is either you continue payment or just enjoy 6 months payment holiday and let your loan balance increase for the next 6 months.
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Thanks for enlightening. However, my question still remains. Assuming I have a loan of 1000 a month where 500 goes to interest and another 500 goes to principle.

With this moratorium, we don’t need to pay installment for 6 months. Therefore, instead of not paying and let interest accrue, I use the full installment amount of 1K to pay the principle instead.

Mathematically, if there’s installment, I’d have paid only 3000 for principle and the rest is interest. Now without, I’ve paid 6000 fully to principle. Wouldn’t that reduce the interest charged at the end of the day?


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BNM FAQ: No need to apply, interest will be accrued

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https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688
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HP loan or car loan not stated clearly enough. HP loan interest is calculated upfront, dont if delay for 6 months how they accrue the interest
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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 25 2020, 12:17 PM)
BNM FAQ: No need to apply, interest will be accrued

more....
https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/516688
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hopefully the bank send the notification soon since april 1 is approaching
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Malaysian Banks And Local Institutions Offer Financial Assistance For Customers Affected By Covid-19...
inside has a list of contact of respective banks....
contact them to find out more about your loan..
https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/bank-news/m...oronavirus.html
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QUOTE(the kin of joaquin @ Mar 25 2020, 11:28 AM)
as i understand it's case by case basis where you need to furnish proof of inability to pay
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this morning I read this then I thought case by case basis.. now at 12pm a lot sharing ringgitplus and star FAQ.. it's showing as if all will be automatically enrolled. Now I'm even more list..

this is the news I read this morning.

https://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=en_pres...ac=5018&lang=en

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https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/personal-fi...f-6-months.html

6 months defer. hohoho good good more cash flow.
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Please note that the financial assistance and relief is not eligible if:-
1) The account is currently under restructure program/plan i.e. AKPK, or
2) The mortgage account which is still on progressive release / loan is not fully drawdown.

This exclusion is from RHB "Financial Assistance and Relief Request Form".


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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Mar 25 2020, 12:23 PM)
HP loan or car loan not stated clearly enough. HP loan interest is calculated upfront, dont if delay for 6 months how they accrue the interest
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Yeah, anyone has info on this?
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anyone can shed some light for car loan?
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FYI, if you have standing instructions for your hire purchase loans, that will be frozen by the banks. There is no need to cancel the standing instructions.

Confirmed with Maybank call center.
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QUOTE(blackchides @ Mar 25 2020, 05:42 PM)
FYI, if you have standing instructions for your hire purchase loans, that will be frozen by the banks. There is no need to cancel the standing instructions.

Confirmed with Maybank call center.
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Thanks for the info blackchides! btw, is the interest still being charged during this period for maybank?
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QUOTE(Wenxuan2 @ Mar 25 2020, 06:22 PM)
Thanks for the info blackchides! btw, is the interest still being charged during this period for maybank?
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Hire Purchase - No

Just add another 6 months. But, better confirm with your bank.
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Just curious. Malaysiakini mention interest still charged and it need settle within payment period, but except for hire purchase loan? no mention
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Do anyone came out with a formula or calculator to compare how much you will gain if u decide to continue with the auto monatorium vs keep serving the house loan for 6 months.
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Mortgage is on daily rest - so it will compound the interest if you don'y pay during the 6 months (best to avoid if you have cash flow or don't mind paying more interest)

HP is flat rate/simple interest - your installment is already calculated upfront with principal + interest for the rest of tenure. You won't get charged with additional accrued interest.
Most probably bank will either extend the tenure by another 6 months or
rework the installment after the moratorium (paying more for specific duration with tenure remain unchanged)
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If HP is not having accrued interest, then it is advantage to have auto moratorium. 6 months extra cash without any interest charge.
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QUOTE(wayton @ Mar 26 2020, 09:11 AM)
If HP is not having accrued interest, then it is advantage to have auto moratorium. 6 months extra cash without any interest charge.
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I have check with the bank no additional interest, you pay back the 6 months either one lump sum at the end of loan tenure or through additional monthly payment from the 7th month onwards.
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QUOTE(Notoriez @ Mar 25 2020, 11:43 PM)
Do anyone came out with a formula or calculator to compare how much you will gain if u decide to continue with the auto monatorium vs keep serving the house loan for 6 months.
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Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

So basically you just need to get the monthly principal amount multiply by the interest rate right? That would give you amount you 'lost' for the duration of 6 month.

My housing loan is in its early tenure and only around 10% is paid to the principal amount. With the current low interest rate, amount lost due to not paying the principal amount seems pretty insignificant for the six month duration, and I don't think BNM would want to jack up the interest rate later this year.
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Let's discuss faq#15.
BNM didn't state clearly that the accrued interest will be added (or rather compounded) to the outstanding loan balance on the monthly basis during the 6 moths moratorium period OR added after the 6 mths moratorium period.

I guess it all depend on the respective bank. I read somewhere that HSBC will not do the monthly compounding on the accrued interest.

Please report what's your bank policy on the treatment of the 6 months moratorium accrued interest.
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According to BNM:

"Normal interest charges will apply on the deferred payments. That means you will pay more interest by deferring. This interest will be added to your loan amount."

So, what is "normal interest"?

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4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For conventional loans: You will pay more interest by deferring. Interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.
For Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.

https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924
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Let's discuss faq#15.
BNM didn't state clearly that the accrued interest will be added (or rather compounded) to the outstanding loan balance on the monthly basis during the 6 moths moratorium period OR added after the 6 mths moratorium period.

I guess it all depend on the respective bank. I read somewhere that HSBC will not do the monthly compounding on the accrued interest.

Please report what's your bank policy on the treatment of the 6 months moratorium accrued interest.
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I also get the info that HSBC will not compound the interest during moratorium. Guess it's subject to the individual bank if they will compound the
interest.
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QUOTE(selinix @ Mar 26 2020, 09:27 AM)
I have check with the bank no additional interest, you pay back the 6 months either one lump sum at the end of loan tenure or through additional monthly payment from the 7th month onwards.
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May I know which bank is this? Thank you
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guys, so the interest wont be compounded for hire purchase right?
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guys, so the interest wont be compounded for hire purchase right?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Mar 26 2020, 11:11 AM)
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Let's discuss faq#15.
BNM didn't state clearly that the accrued interest will be added (or rather compounded) to the outstanding loan balance on the monthly basis during the 6 moths moratorium period OR added after the 6 mths moratorium period.

I guess it all depend on the respective bank. I read somewhere that HSBC will not do the monthly compounding on the accrued interest.

Please report what's your bank policy on the treatment of the 6 months moratorium accrued interest.
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QUOTE(netcrawler @ Mar 26 2020, 11:06 AM)
I also get the info that HSBC will not compound the interest during moratorium. Guess it's subject to the individual bank if they will compound the
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good move by hsbc -- both the interest for conventional loans as well as profit on Islamic financing will not be compounded during the moratorium period


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Yeah, well done to HSBC. If only our other local banks would follow suit..
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Because I'm an idiot, can someone clarify that care HP eligible for moratorium? Mine is CIMB and they said no a few days ago, only for house loans- maybe the situation has changed?
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QUOTE(matches_malone @ Mar 26 2020, 01:17 PM)
Because I'm an idiot, can someone clarify that care HP eligible for moratorium? Mine is CIMB and they said no a few days ago, only for house loans- maybe the situation has changed?
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Yes, hire purchase is eligible
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https://www.sinchew.com.my/pad/con/content_2241661.html

Following after HSBC, OCBC announced that accrued interest will not be compounded during the 6 months moratorium.

HLB will update its moratorium tnc on its official website tomorrow.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Mar 26 2020, 06:08 PM)
https://www.sinchew.com.my/pad/con/content_2241661.html

Following after HSBC, OCBC announced that accrued interest will not be compounded during the 6 months moratorium.

HLB will update its moratorium tnc on its official website tomorrow.
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Waiting for Maybank..........
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QUOTE(Arvinaaaaa @ Mar 26 2020, 06:49 PM)
Waiting for Maybank..........
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Already released

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...viduals_faq.pdf

For hire purchase just extend 6 more months to your tenure
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QUOTE(EnterYourName @ Mar 26 2020, 07:05 PM)
Already released

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...viduals_faq.pdf

For hire purchase just extend 6 more months to your tenure
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Means better to continue paying the conventional loan to avoid accumulation of interest
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Hi all, maybank islamic mentioned that profit will still be charged but not compounded. Can someone what does this mean? Does it mean that it will not on to my current interest and only prolong my tenure? Thanks would appreciate the help!
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Any news about Public Bank on the compounding interest factor?
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4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

    For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay more interest by deferring. Interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.
    For loans with Public Islamic Berhad, i.e. Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.
so if my Hire purchase loan is conventional i will have to pay more interest?
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Even if the 6 months interest is not compounded during the moratorium period, if I cannot afford to pay one lump sum to settle 6 months on month #7, after the entire loan is paid off, will I have paid more than originally planned?

If I'm not mistaken I'm losing money overall, because daily/monthly rest is calculated on the capital owing, and I owe more than originally planned out in the schedule.

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QUOTE(Canfloat @ Mar 26 2020, 10:57 PM)
Even if the 6 months interest is not compounded during the moratorium period, if I cannot afford to pay one lump sum to settle 6 months on month #7, after the entire loan is paid off, will I have paid more than originally planned?

If I'm not mistaken I'm losing money overall, because daily/monthly rest is calculated on the capital owing, and I owe more than originally planned out in the schedule.
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Yes, you are correct in that interest will be charged on your unpaid principal sum even after the 6 months period is over. As you have a higher unpaid principal sum, from Month#7, the interest will be higher too.
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QUOTE(Wenxuan2 @ Mar 26 2020, 09:32 PM)
Hi all, maybank islamic mentioned that profit will still be charged but not compounded. Can someone what does this mean? Does it mean that it will not on to my current interest and only prolong my tenure? Thanks would appreciate the help!
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in simplest term, "not compounded" = the accumulated profit wont be counted in future profit calculation. only the principal will be used for profit calculation.

QUOTE(Canfloat @ Mar 26 2020, 10:57 PM)
Even if the 6 months interest is not compounded during the moratorium period, if I cannot afford to pay one lump sum to settle 6 months on month #7, after the entire loan is paid off, will I have paid more than originally planned?

If I'm not mistaken I'm losing money overall, because daily/monthly rest is calculated on the capital owing, and I owe more than originally planned out in the schedule.
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yep. that's why only go for this moritorium if you have severe cash flow. else, those with fixed income (hopefully!) and still able to continue serving the instalments, then just optout/continue the repayment.

this is just a short-term relief ("bandage"), but definitely not a fix/waiver, and ultimately not a loss to the bank dry.gif

i just felt that this moritorium will just keep digging deeper debt hole for us. imagine i'm losing my job now and still couldnt recover from month #7 onwards (slow economic growth, business recovery to hire me, etc etc)
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just got this from WhatsApp..........
For your additional information, Loan deferment announcement:

1) PBB - https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

2) HLB - https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...wide-heretohelp

3) CIMB - https://www.cimb.com.my/en/personal/help-su...19-support.html

4) MBB - https://www.maybank2u.com.my/maybank2u/mala...ief_scheme.page

5) UOB - https://www.uob.com.my/default/financial-re...f-measures.page

6) Affin - https://www.affinbank.com.my/NewsDetails.aspx?id=965

7) AmBank - https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/covid-19

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personal loan from bank like citibank, calculated using reducing balance method but we cannot pay extra to it to knock off the interest like housing loan, does that mean the citibank personal loan will end up charging more after the 6 month if we let it auto op in?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 27 2020, 09:11 AM)
Haven receive news from RHB bank, are they following BNM’s announcement or do I have to apply myself?
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Mar 27 2020, 11:06 AM)
Haven receive news from RHB bank, are they following BNM’s announcement or do I have to apply myself?
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i think should just follow BNM, for I am sure RHB will also follow BNM...
did BNM said you need to apply for the deferment?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 27 2020, 11:11 AM)
i think should just follow BNM, for I am sure RHB will also follow BNM...
did BNM said you need to apply for the deferment?
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Nope BNM just gave announcement say auto moratorium. I’ve received news from other banks but not RHB, yet.

And my instalment due soon, so I’m restless.
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Mar 27 2020, 11:15 AM)
Nope BNM just gave announcement say auto moratorium. I’ve received news from other banks but not RHB, yet.

And my instalment due soon, so I’m restless.
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in this auto moratorium...does it mention auto (no need to apply) or need to apply manually?

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The bank really needs to provide a more consistent and updated messaging on this, they still keep the old application for deferment there and then in another statement saying that it is automatic.. This causes a lot of confusion to the public.
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if not sure, if really want to find out,...just call your bank to find out....
ranting here is of no use.
if they did not provide you with the required info in the news,...what can you do except to call them to get more info or clarify your doubts.
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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 26 2020, 11:05 AM)
4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For conventional loans: You will pay more interest by deferring. Interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance comprising of both principal and interest portion (i.e. compounded) during the moratorium period.
For Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.

https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924
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What about HP conventional, if i borrow rm100k, so the oustanding balance is still rm100k?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 27 2020, 11:16 AM)
in this auto moratorium...does it mention auto (no need to apply) or need to apply manually?
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Automatic.

I did apply it before bnm announce automatic.They even courier me the approval letter stating the next installment will be in Oct.

All auto debit will be suspended till 30 Sept and resume in Oct.

If you can check your loan account online, you can check the payment due or the due date for next payment. PB loan online account show amount due: -- instead of the actual installment amount.

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QUOTE(deity01 @ Mar 27 2020, 10:42 AM)
personal loan from bank like citibank, calculated using reducing balance method but we cannot pay extra to it to knock off the interest like housing loan, does that mean the citibank personal loan will end up charging more after the 6 month if we let it auto op in?
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Depending on your personal loan interest rate, if the rate is high, it's better to opt out from moratorium to avoid the high personal loan interest. But make sure that you are able to keep your job as employment prospect looks gloomy in the coming months. I think once you opted out, there is no u-turn for you.
Citibank didn't "charge you more", In fact citibank charge you loan interest accordingly to the DURATION of the loan extended to you. It's fair and square and more so you have the option to opt out.

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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 27 2020, 11:29 AM)
Automatic.

I did apply it before bnm announce automatic.They even courier me the approval letter stating the next installment will be in Oct.

All auto debit will be suspended till 30 Sept and resume in Oct.

If you can check your loan account online, you can check the payment due or the due date for next payment. PB loan online account show amount due: -- instead of the actual installment amount.
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PBE HP loan account show

Next Payment Date : xx-04-2020
Amount Due : --

Look like the amount due is 0, but next payment date still the actual date.

While there is a Available Redraw Amount : --

If you pay during this 6 months. It allow you to redraw I think.

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QUOTE(spazerock @ Mar 27 2020, 11:27 AM)
What about HP conventional,  if i borrow rm100k, so the oustanding balance is still rm100k?
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Call them to find out for hire purchase loan.

If im not wrong its either they let you extend another 6 months on your actual loan tenure with/without interest im not sure

or

Pro rated back into the remaining loan tenure.


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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Mar 27 2020, 11:32 AM)
PBE HP loan account show

Next Payment Date : xx-04-2020
Amount Due : --

Look like the amount due is 0, but next payment date still the actual date.

While there is a Available Redraw Amount : --

If you pay during this 6 months. It allow you to redraw I think.
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Not sure on withdrawal.

It means you have no amount due in Apr and it will continue to show -- till Sept. When is in Oct your amount due for that month will show the actual installment.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 27 2020, 11:21 AM)
if not sure, if really want to find out,...just call your bank to find out....
ranting here is of no use.
if they did not provide you with the required info in the news,...what can you do except to call them to get more info or clarify your doubts.
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True to that, I’ll make a call to them and reconfirm.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 27 2020, 11:21 AM)
if not sure, if really want to find out,...just call your bank to find out....
ranting here is of no use.
if they did not provide you with the required info in the news,...what can you do except to call them to get more info or clarify your doubts.
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Take 20 minutes to get through the call only to get vague answers and ask to wait for the bank notice. Reach out to the banker also they apologize and say they themselves aslo waiting for the bank to make a more firm circular internally.
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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 27 2020, 11:36 AM)
Not sure on withdrawal.

It means you have no amount due in Apr and it will continue to show -- till Sept. When is in Oct your amount due for that month will show the actual installment.
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Housing Loan if afford, better continue pay it. HP loan can take the benefit for 6mths since no interest, early settlement also no discount.
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QUOTE(selinix @ Mar 27 2020, 11:42 AM)
Take 20 minutes to get through the call only to get vague answers and ask to wait for the bank notice. Reach out to the banker also they apologize and say they themselves aslo waiting for the bank to make a more firm circular internally.
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thumbsup.gif thanks for the input...
I guess that is the best answer and direct from the mouth of the bank....
until getting the notice, no more guesses.

but I doubt the notice will covers every aspects or doubts of all borrowers....by that time may also need to call them again to clarify again....
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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Mar 27 2020, 11:45 AM)
Housing Loan if afford, better continue pay it. HP loan can take the benefit for 6mths since no interest, early settlement also no discount.
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I did consider to continue the serve the home loan installment but the interest of let's say 5k in this 6 months will be probably only be double after 20 years.

The extra 5k compounded interest over 20 years it's insignificant for me.

Unless I'm using this installment money to settle other debt if not this money will grow overtime either in my business / other investment.

For PBB HP Loan, the loan will be extended another 6 months in your loan tenure. Let's say it's suppose to finish in Oct 2024, now it will end in Apr 2025 without incurring further interest.. No HP Loan with me, just call to find out for the benefit of my clients.
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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Mar 27 2020, 12:45 PM)
Housing Loan if afford, better continue pay it. HP loan can take the benefit for 6mths since no interest, early settlement also no discount.
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Housing loan has the lowest interest compare to HP. So you can defer from paying. Better invest HL elsewhere for 6 months. Same with HP.

How about Personal Loan? People talk about HL and HP but not PL. Is it automatic as well?

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I will left the money in my account for the deduction (just in case they deducted it) because so far in my Maybank and BSN still mention 1st of April for the deduction.

Dont want later they forgot the lift up the SI then say i default the loan by mistake,..
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Maybank and RHB bank also just announce not compounding interest on the charged interest in the 6 months
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QUOTE(Bendan520 @ Mar 27 2020, 11:06 AM)
Haven receive news from RHB bank, are they following BNM’s announcement or do I have to apply myself?
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just saw this about RHB....
post 3063...
ASB loan thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/667676/+6020#entry96045301
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Hi All, sorry if this question has been asked as i unable to get through PPB customer serivce.

i wanna ask

1)if Hire-Purchase(car loan) will automatic get 6 months moratorium for PBB?

2)is application form required

3)interest will included during 6 months moratorium?

Thanks for reply and sorry for asking this question again.
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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Mar 27 2020, 12:31 PM)
Hi All, sorry if this question has been asked as i unable to get through PPB customer serivce.

i wanna ask

1)if Hire-Purchase(car loan) will automatic get 6 months moratorium for PBB?

2)is application form required

3)interest will included during 6 months moratorium?

Thanks for reply and sorry for asking this question again.
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read >> https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

PBB optout form >> https://www.pbebank.com/srf/optout

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 27 2020, 12:32 PM)
hi thanks for the replies, but the official website didn't mention about interest for hire-purchase
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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Mar 27 2020, 12:40 PM)
hi thanks for the replies, but the official website didn't mention about interest for hire-purchase
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There is no interest accrued for HP. Just pay the installments as per normal after the 6 months period.
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QUOTE(Lynixx @ Mar 27 2020, 12:40 PM)
hi thanks for the replies, but the official website didn't mention about interest for hire-purchase
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hp interest has been discussed for the n-th times here.... if still not satisfied...

Kindly contact the Public Bank Helpdesk at:

03 - 2176 6408 or 03 – 2177 3066
(for Housing Loan/Term Loan/Fixed Loan/Overdraft/Bills Facilities)

03 - 2176 7466 or 03 – 2176 7689
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03 - 2176 8222
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covid19moratorium@publicbank.com.my

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Mar 27 2020, 12:41 PM)
There is no interest accrued for HP. Just pay the installments as per normal after the 6 months period.
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maybank u-turn on compounding interest for loans
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Guys, please correct me if I have wrong understanding.

It's better to continue to pay monthly installments for home loan rather than defer it as interest will be accrued.

But if the construction is still in progress, we will be paying progressive payment which will not knock off principal amount of our loan, which may be similar to HP loan concept.

So it's better to defer the payment?
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QUOTE(CasualMax @ Mar 27 2020, 01:40 PM)
Guys, please correct me if I have wrong understanding.

It's better to continue to pay monthly installments for home loan rather than defer it as interest will be accrued.

But if the construction is still in progress, we will be paying progressive payment which will not knock off principal amount of our loan, which may be similar to HP loan concept.

So it's better to defer the payment?
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I also want to know, if i borrow rm500k, during these 6mth progressive interest is rm10k. So my oustanding become rm510k ?

Its better pay interest as usual or pay after 6 month?
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 27 2020, 12:32 PM)
Hi. Anyone manage to register on this form? I tried several times but landed on an error page.
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hello I'm confused.

let's say I have a islamic personal loan, monthly RM500 where RM100 goes to profit. RM400 goes to principle

During the 6 months thing, I understand that profit of RM100/month is still on-going. So my total payment I have to pay extra RM600?


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For PBB, I dont get it.
It says you will pay more interest by deferring , simple interest charge without compounding.
If no compounding, then what do you mean "pay more interest"? Pay more interest than what exactly?




https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay more interest by deferring. Simple interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance without compounding during the moratorium period.


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QUOTE(CasualMax @ Mar 27 2020, 01:40 PM)
Guys, please correct me if I have wrong understanding.

It's better to continue to pay monthly installments for home loan rather than defer it as interest will be accrued.

But if the construction is still in progress, we will be paying progressive payment which will not knock off principal amount of our loan, which may be similar to HP loan concept.

So it's better to defer the payment?
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QUOTE(spazerock @ Mar 27 2020, 02:00 PM)
I also want to know, if i borrow rm500k, during these 6mth progressive interest is rm10k.  So my oustanding become rm510k ?

Its better pay interest as usual or pay after 6 month?
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The thing is, what you plan to do with extra cash flow??

If you have no plan, just pay the home loan..




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QUOTE(LeonL @ Mar 27 2020, 02:22 PM)
For PBB, I dont get it.
It says you will pay more interest by deferring , simple interest charge without compounding.
If no compounding, then what do you mean "pay more interest"? Pay more interest than what exactly?
https://www.pbebank.com/Announcements.aspx?qid=2924#q2924

4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay more interest by deferring. Simple interest will continue to be charged on the outstanding balance without compounding during the moratorium period.
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That mean the interest month 1-6 defer calculate base on outstanding balance before 31 mar. Not outstanding balance compound with month 1-6 defer.

Correct me if im wrong
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tried to call PBB to ask but line busy..
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so why they say you will pay more interest by deferring?


QUOTE(spazerock @ Mar 27 2020, 02:31 PM)
That mean the interest month 1-6 defer calculate base on outstanding balance before 31 mar.  Not outstanding balance compound with month 1-6 defer.

Correct me if im wrong
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for hp loan, any one has interest if they charge fresh interest on unpaid principal for 6 mths? if they dont i think is worthwhile to defer to preserve some cash
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QUOTE(ukiya21 @ Mar 27 2020, 02:56 PM)
tried to call PBB to ask but line busy..
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Actually, normal day also cannot reach their hotline one. Hahaha
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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Mar 27 2020, 03:08 PM)
Actually, normal day also cannot reach their hotline one. Hahaha
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Just want to get a conclusive answer for the HP loan...
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 27 2020, 12:32 PM)
I tried and I got an error wtf. Anyone tried and succeeded?

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so why they say you will pay more interest by deferring?
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That mean the interest during these 6 month defer (not paying) will pay after that.

Your loan tenure also will extend another 6 month. ie 300 month extend to 306 month. Plus the 6 month defer payment interest.
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QUOTE(spazerock @ Mar 27 2020, 03:26 PM)
That mean the interest during these 6 month defer (not paying) will pay after that.

Your loan tenure also will extend another 6 month.  ie 300 month extend to 306 month.  Plus the 6 month defer payment interest.
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Loan tenure total still 300 months, 300 - 6 + 6.
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Hi. Anyone manage to register on this form? I tried several times but landed on an error page.
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Loan tenure total still 300 months, 300 - 6 + 6.
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During there defer 6 month, you are not free of charge. The are no -6
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tried to call PBB to ask but line busy..
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For PBB HP Loan, the loan will be extended another 6 months in your loan tenure. Let's say it's suppose to finish in Oct 2024, now it will end in Apr 2025 without incurring further interest.. No HP Loan with me, just call to find out for the benefit of my clients.
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I see a lot of hesitation about the moratorium.

Here's the simple illustration to make things clear for anyone.

Assuming you apply a 6 months loan RM100k @ 5%p.a. commencing 1st April and the bank offer you the following loan repayment options :-

Option 1: Pay 6 x RM16,910.56 monthly instalment until the loan is fully pay up.

Option 2: Pay nothing and settle RM102,520.55 after 6 months.

Which option would you prefer ?

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1. Above options are for illustration only to show you the difference between the two.
2. IMO, the EAR for both options remain about the same @ 5% p.a. but I think the bank is slightly rugi on the option 2. Imagine this .... 6-month FD @ 5% p.a. with monthly interest crediting to your savings account compare to a 6-month FD @ 5% p.a. with interest on maturity, which one has the higher yield?

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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 27 2020, 02:23 PM)
The thing is, what you plan to do with extra cash flow??

If you have no plan, just pay the home loan..
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While I agree with you on this, banks like PBB is asking upfront if want to opt out or not. Some people may feel that for April they can still make payment so they opt out. Then we never know about financial situation in May, Jun onwards but must decide quickly about opt in or opt out.

I have a loan with Affin and from their FAQ, if want to opt out, just pay normally. No need to isi borang. Whereas PBB requires one.
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QUOTE(my44 @ Mar 27 2020, 05:19 PM)
While I agree with you on this, banks like PBB is asking upfront if want to opt out or not. Some people may feel that for April they can still make payment so they opt out. Then we never know about financial situation in May, Jun onwards but must decide quickly about opt in or opt out.

I have a loan with Affin and from their FAQ, if want to opt out, just pay normally. No need to isi borang. Whereas PBB requires one.
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Collectively, banks have a few millions borrowers; not everyone is impacted equally and many behave unconventionally. to protect bank from legal issue in the future e.g foreclosure proceeding, it is wise to get borrower to sign.

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QUOTE(my44 @ Mar 27 2020, 05:19 PM)
While I agree with you on this, banks like PBB is asking upfront if want to opt out or not. Some people may feel that for April they can still make payment so they opt out. Then we never know about financial situation in May, Jun onwards but must decide quickly about opt in or opt out.

I have a loan with Affin and from their FAQ, if want to opt out, just pay normally. No need to isi borang. Whereas PBB requires one.
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According to PBB Main Ipoh branch, you can still pay accordingly without giving them notice.

As long as you can check online, you will know whether the payment is kept as an advance or paid to loan principal + interest.




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QUOTE(rapple @ Mar 27 2020, 05:37 PM)
According to PBB Main Ipoh branch, you can still pay accordingly without giving them notice.

As long as you can check online, you will know whether the payment is kept as an advance or paid to loan principal + interest.
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Just want to check, if my housing loan due is on the 1st of April, will I still need to make payment, or deferred?
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Just want to check, if my housing loan due is on the 1st of April, will I still need to make payment, or deferred?
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If due 1st April, can be deferred. The next payment should be 1st Oct
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Here is the list reported by the star :

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ring-moratorium

Banks that offer non-compounding Interest :

RHB Banking Group
PUBLIC BANK BHD
MALAYAN BANKING BHD (Maybank)
CIMB Bank Bhd
OCBC Bank (M) Bhd
HSBC Malaysia
AmBank Group
Affin Bank Bhd

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For PBB HP Loan, the loan will be extended another 6 months in your loan tenure. Let's say it's suppose to finish in Oct 2024, now it will end in Apr 2025 without incurring further interest.. No HP Loan with me, just call to find out for the benefit of my clients.
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Thanks.

So HP just add 6 months on top of last scheduled payment month.

House loan if opt out, need to pay the interest for 6 months (the interest been recalculated as part of principal) ?

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the 6 months interest will be add into the outstanding when month 7, right?
if we just save up this 6 months payment and if didnt use it, just pay all the total 6 months repayment to the bank, it will like no different than opt out, right?
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QUOTE(deity01 @ Mar 27 2020, 07:45 PM)
the 6 months interest will be add into the outstanding when month 7, right?
if we just save up this 6 months payment and if didnt use it, just pay all the total 6 months repayment to the bank, it will like no different than opt out, right?
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There will be difference.
1. If your bank compounds the interest, you will lose out ( and pay more)on the compounded interest.
2. If you pay monthly, your interest will be lesser for months 2,3,4,5,6 and you pay more on the principal sum.

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btw, those properties serving progressive interest how doest it work? Any expert can shed some light
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QUOTE(selinix @ Mar 27 2020, 08:47 PM)
btw, those properties serving progressive interest how doest it work? Any expert can shed some light
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RM0.00 RM0 MBB/MIB memberi penangguhan ansuran otomobil selama 6 bulan bermula 1 Apr 2020. Jika tidak setuju, sila balas "TIDAKSETUJU<IC NO><NO KERETA>

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QUOTE(deity01 @ Mar 27 2020, 07:45 PM)
the 6 months interest will be add into the outstanding when month 7, right?
if we just save up this 6 months payment and if didnt use it, just pay all the total 6 months repayment to the bank, it will like no different than opt out, right?
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Yes, the effective rate will remain the same. Therefore it's no brainer to take the moratorium first then decide whether to opt out or not based on the market situation 6 months down the road.

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btw, those properties serving progressive interest how doest it work? Any expert can shed some light
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Good for you, you will not be required to service the monthly interest for the next 6 months. But interest will be accrued.

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If i dun wan postpone payment still need reply?
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Thanks Spazerock

Seems the PB announcement wording used changed again .... are they reading this forum?

What does it mean "You will pay interest by deferring" ?
if you opt out of this deferment, you will still pay interest ma.
We all know it's not interest free, The question people need to know is do you pay more or the same interest by deferring?
Banks really need a spreadsheet example. All these words are vague and can be interpreted in so many ways


4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay interest by deferring. However, there will be no compounding interest during this deferment period from 1 April 2020 to 30 September 2020. This means you will not be charged any interest on the interest that arises during the moratorium period.
For loans with Public Islamic Berhad, i.e. Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.


QUOTE(spazerock @ Mar 27 2020, 03:26 PM)
That mean the interest during these 6 month defer (not paying) will pay after that.

Your loan tenure also will extend another 6 month.  ie 300 month extend to 306 month.  Plus the 6 month defer payment interest.
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QUOTE(LeonL @ Mar 27 2020, 10:01 PM)
Thanks Spazerock

Seems the PB announcement wording used changed again .... are they reading this forum?

What does it mean "You will pay interest by deferring" ? 
if you opt out of this deferment, you will still pay interest ma.
We all know it's not interest free, The question people need to know is do you pay more or the same interest by deferring?
Banks really need a spreadsheet example. All these words are vague and can be interpreted in so many ways
4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay interest by deferring. However, there will be no compounding interest during this deferment period from 1 April 2020 to 30 September 2020. This means you will not be charged any interest on the interest that arises during the moratorium period.
For loans with Public Islamic Berhad, i.e. Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.
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for pbb hp loan, after 6 mths deferred the 6 mths period will have any extra interest to pay?
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The interest accrued during the 6 mths break will have to be paid back in addition to the principal, during the subsequent home loan installments from 1-October onwards.
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QUOTE(LeonL @ Mar 27 2020, 10:01 PM)
Thanks Spazerock

Seems the PB announcement wording used changed again .... are they reading this forum?

What does it mean "You will pay interest by deferring" ? 
if you opt out of this deferment, you will still pay interest ma.
We all know it's not interest free, The question people need to know is do you pay more or the same interest by deferring?
Banks really need a spreadsheet example. All these words are vague and can be interpreted in so many ways
4. HOW WILL MY INTEREST/PROFIT CHARGES BE CALCULATED DURING THE DEFERMENT PERIOD?

For loans with Public Bank Berhad, i.e. conventional loans: You will pay interest by deferring. However, there will be no compounding interest during this deferment period from 1 April 2020 to 30 September 2020. This means you will not be charged any interest on the interest that arises during the moratorium period.
For loans with Public Islamic Berhad, i.e. Islamic financing: You will NOT pay more profit charges by deferring. Profit will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount. Such profit however will not be compounded in line with Shariah principles.
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"You will pay interest by deferring" ?
# mean your interest (no principal) during these moratorium will bill you after 6 mth. this 6 mth you no need pay (0 charge).

They will be no interest compound with ouststanding balance DURING your 6 mth unpay behavior. (Balance add interest)

Your tenure extend another 6 mth, plus interest of 6mth deferring charge.

If you opt out this deferment, you pay interest and principal, nothing change.

If you defer the payment, what you lose is 6 month interest u pay, and tenure extend 6 month

I guess what their mean.

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QUOTE(Cyclopes @ Mar 27 2020, 08:04 PM)
There will be difference.
1. If your bank compounds the interest, you will lose out ( and pay more)on the compounded interest.
2. If you pay monthly, your interest will be lesser for months 2,3,4,5,6 and you pay more on the principal sum.
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1. my bank didnt compounds the interest
2. this one I know, but at this point of time, quite hesitate to go out, furthermore, I pay bi-weekly, a bit lazy to go bank 2 to 3 times a month especially during this period of time..will see hows the situations after 14/4 first
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 27 2020, 07:01 PM)
Here is the list reported by the star :

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...ring-moratorium

Banks that offer non-compounding Interest :

RHB Banking Group
PUBLIC BANK BHD
MALAYAN BANKING BHD (Maybank)
CIMB Bank Bhd
OCBC Bank (M) Bhd
HSBC Malaysia
AmBank Group
Affin Bank Bhd
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Hi, I'm taking OCBC housing loan. May i know the housing loan entitles non-compounding interest too? As i understand OCBC i only offer non-compounding interest for Businesses and SME customer only.
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QUOTE(cylee32 @ Mar 28 2020, 12:42 AM)
Hi, I'm taking OCBC housing loan. May i know the housing loan entitles non-compounding interest too? As i understand OCBC i only offer non-compounding interest for Businesses and SME customer only.
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QUOTE(cylee32 @ Mar 28 2020, 12:42 AM)
Hi, I'm taking OCBC housing loan. May i know the housing loan entitles non-compounding interest too? As i understand OCBC i only offer non-compounding interest for Businesses and SME customer only.
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should be same across all banks.

their choice of words is kinda confusing to readers on their covid19 info page >> https://www.ocbc.com.my/business-banking/lo...elief-measures/

faq >> https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Loans/FA..._Moratorium.pdf



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I dont understand the news about bank waiving compounding interest tho.

For example, i have a housing loan with OCBC, and it says on the news that OCBC announced waived compounding interest on mortgage and SME, does that apply to me?

I called the agent that handled the loan for me but he jz send the the FAQ that didnt include any waiver

Note that my house loan is actually still on progressive loan, so im even more confused
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QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Mar 28 2020, 07:06 AM)
I dont understand the news about bank waiving compounding interest tho.

For example, i have a housing loan with OCBC, and it says on the news that OCBC announced waived compounding interest on mortgage and SME, does that apply to me?

I called the agent that handled the loan for me but he jz send the the FAQ that didnt include any waiver

Note that my house loan is actually still on progressive loan, so im even more confused
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Compound interest incur on the 6 months interest is marginal if compare with over the balance of loan tenure.

Harping on 6 months compound interest is penny wise pound foolish.

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guys, credit card's flexipay/easypay doesn't fall under this moratorium right?
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 28 2020, 08:05 AM)
Compound interest incur on the 6 months interest is marginal if compare with over the balance of loan tenure.

Harping on 6 months compound interest is penny wise pound foolish.
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Not sure if it applies to progressive payment tho. Coz the unit i purchased is closed to completion already.
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How this will affect those with flexi loan? How the interest will be calculated?

For the normal term loan, I assume that you'll need to pay the 6 months interest in lump sum on month 7 if you don't want it to be compounded after the 6 months moratorium?

For HP, it is depending on bank right? It is not necessary that it will extend the tenure by 6 months. It could be you pay more to cover back the 6 months (same tenure)
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 27 2020, 03:37 PM)
mine is maybank islamic hire purchase, does count as well for not compounding interest?
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QUOTE(labtec @ Mar 28 2020, 10:39 AM)
mine is maybank islamic hire purchase, does count as well for not compounding interest?
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QUOTE(EnterYourName @ Mar 26 2020, 07:05 PM)
Already released

https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...viduals_faq.pdf

For hire purchase just extend 6 more months to your tenure
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QUOTE(Matchy @ Mar 28 2020, 09:30 AM)
How this will affect those with flexi loan? How the interest will be calculated?

For the normal term loan, I assume that you'll need to pay the 6 months interest in lump sum on month 7 if you don't want it to be compounded after the 6 months moratorium?

For HP, it is depending on bank right? It is not necessary that it will extend the tenure by 6 months. It could be you pay more to cover back the 6 months (same tenure)
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1. loan interest will be accrued for 6 months in Flexi loan similar to that of normal term loan.

2. No you don't pay lump sum at the end of moratorium. I heard most banks wouldn't extend the loan tenure except RHB (please correct me), therefore your instalment amount will be revise upward after the moratorium for the remaining tenure. For RHB, instalment amount will remain unchanged as before unless there's a reduction of BL.

3. As for HP moratorium, just grab it, you don't grab you sendiri rugi.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 28 2020, 06:34 AM)
should be same across all banks.

their choice of words is kinda confusing to readers on their covid19 info page >> https://www.ocbc.com.my/business-banking/lo...elief-measures/

faq >> https://www.ocbc.com.my/assets/pdf/Loans/FA..._Moratorium.pdf
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Ya, exactly. I thought the individual loan refer to housing mortgage loan, now I think back most probably refer to personal loan. Thank you @deity01 and your clarification.
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QUOTE(eric.tangps @ Mar 20 2020, 06:23 AM)
Moratorium don’t affect CCRIS as this is part of relief for individuals and SMEs effort.

Despite not paying the instalments for 6 months, the interest for the duration will still be charged.  Hence, outstanding balance at the end of 6th month will be more.
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Lol... that means suffer in 6 months later... topkek
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Lol... that means suffer in 6 months later... topkek
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in time of crisis, one school of thought is to pare down borrowing as much and as soon as possible; second school of thought is to keep gun powder dry for action later.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 28 2020, 12:34 PM)
in time of crisis, one school of thought is to pare down borrowing as much and as soon as possible; second school of thought is to keep gun powder dry for action later.
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Expect more businesses will close down after 6 months...
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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 28 2020, 01:30 PM)
Expect more businesses will close down after 6 months...
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Gomen hangout is unsustainable and eventually pay by tax payers. The more gomen hangout, the more tax payers in particularly businesses will suffer later.

Stimulus package could boost consumption in the short term but digging deeper pit at the same time.

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QUOTE(Zwean @ Mar 28 2020, 12:45 AM)
Compound interest or not is not all that significant.

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In addition of 6 months deferment, borrower will pay about 7 more months instalment.

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Mar 28 2020, 02:16 PM)
In addition of 6 months deferment, borrower will pay about 7 more months instalment.
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My calculate opt in deferment, is pay more 18mth instalment, for 30 year loan.

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My calculate opt in deferment, is pay more 18mth instalment,  for 30 year loan.
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It depends on outstanding loan amount and tenure.
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Got a question on the 6-month Automatic Moratorium programme? We are here to address some commonly asked questions.

For the full set of frequently asked questions and answers, please visit our moratorium FAQ page where we answer questions like:

What is a moratorium?
What if I have a standing instruction on my loan?
Will there be compounding interest on my loan interest?

www.alliancebank.com.my/moratorium-faqs.aspx

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How about if my current house is under construction but bank just release half and now I am paying monthly interest only. Will this be included into the deferment policy? I am currently using auto debit so bank will deduct by itself and what i understand is with this deferment, all auto debit facility will be cancel. The thing is I still want to pay as per usual and does not want to accrue interest. Tried to call mbb since two days ago but cannot even connect them.. If anyone have this answer do enlighten me ya. TQVM
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QUOTE(incredibless @ Mar 28 2020, 05:24 PM)
How about if my current house is under construction but bank just release half and now I am paying monthly interest only. Will this be included into the deferment policy? I am currently using auto debit so bank will deduct by itself and what i understand is with this deferment, all auto debit facility will be cancel. The thing is I still want to pay as per usual and does not want to accrue interest. Tried to call mbb since two days ago but cannot even connect them.. If anyone have this answer do enlighten me ya. TQVM
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You have yet to commence loan repayment, is not entitled to moratorium.
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still no news from Aeon Credit, right?
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Credit card balance will auto covert to term loan?
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So far BSN have not mentioned on whether the interest will be compounded or not, but since the interest is not really big difference, might as well follow the suit.

Just in case since cash flow very important during the next 6 months.
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Mar 28 2020, 09:52 PM)
So far BSN have not mentioned on whether the interest will be compounded or not, but since the interest is not really big difference, might as well follow the suit.

Just in case since cash flow very important during the next 6 months.
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Conversion of Credit Card Balances Into A 3-Year Term Loan/Financing (Conversion Package)

I have two credit cards with big amounts outstanding, and I was retrenched in January. I have not been able to meet my credit card monthly obligations since January and am very worried of the consequences. Will I qualify for the conversion of these outstanding balances into term loans/financing? How does it work? Do I need to call my bank to effect this?
If you have been unable to meet the minimum monthly repayment on your credit card consecutively for the last 3 months, your card issuer will convert the outstanding balance into a term loan of not more than 3 years at an effective interest of not more than/financing 13% per annum.

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https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/credit-card...term-loans.html

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MAYBANK >> If you do not wish to be auto-enrolled into this moratorium, here are two ways you can opt out:

Reply the SMS we will be sending to you.

Fill in and submit the form(s) below:
Opt Out Request Form for my Hire Purchase/Auto Loan/Financing
Opt Out Request Form for my Mortgage, Personal, ASB & Education Loan/Financing
Opt Out Request Form for my SME Loan/Financing

If you would like to convert your outstanding credit card balances into a term loan/financing, kindly submit the Credit Card Relief Assistance Form so we can assist you further.


Not sure if the moratorium is right for you? Here are some considerations that could be useful to help you decide:

Do you have a stable and consistent income stream? If you do, this moratorium might not be a critical consideration for you.
Do you foresee the potential of having high cash outflow in the next 6 months? If you do, this moratorium could help to ease your monthly financial burden.

Do you foresee a huge impact on your business or investment due to the recent events? If you do, this moratorium could help to ease your financial burden.

Are you aware of and agreeable to the accrued interest and higher repayment amount or longer tenure after the moratorium? If you are not comfortable with this term, the option to opt out is available to you.

You also have the freedom to select which loan/financing to opt out of, while keeping others enrolled into the program.
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I wonder whether credit card personal loan is covered for the deferment.

I have a small loan from HSBC Credit Card spread over 24 months at a fixed interest rate of 2.88% per annum. I took it and reinvested into FD (at that time it was around 4+%) and made the difference in spread.

I don't spend anything on this card at all. So there is no outstanding monthly balance at all except for the fixed amount to be paid every month.
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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 28 2020, 10:18 PM)
I wonder whether credit card personal loan is covered for the deferment.

I have a small loan from HSBC Credit Card spread over 24 months at a fixed interest rate of 2.88% per annum. I took it and reinvested into FD (at that time it was around 4+%) and made the difference in spread.

I don't spend anything on this card at all. So there is no outstanding monthly balance at all except for the fixed amount to be paid every month.
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If no, I don't think it's qualified for the deferment initiative.
Do remember that credit card outstanding is not eligible for the deferment initiative.
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During this moratorium period, there is no installment required for 6 months. However, interest on the principle is still being accrued, just not compounded.

Therefore, if the money used for installment monthly is used to pay off the principle in total. Would this be a wise move to make full use of the moratorium?
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 02:42 AM)
During this moratorium period, there is no installment required for 6 months. However, interest on the principle is still being accrued, just not compounded.

Therefore, if the money used for installment monthly is used to pay off the principle in total. Would this be a wise move to make full use of the moratorium?
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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 28 2020, 10:18 PM)
I wonder whether credit card personal loan is covered for the deferment.

I have a small loan from HSBC Credit Card spread over 24 months at a fixed interest rate of 2.88% per annum. I took it and reinvested into FD (at that time it was around 4+%) and made the difference in spread.

I don't spend anything on this card at all. So there is no outstanding monthly balance at all except for the fixed amount to be paid every month.
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Usually if the loan interest is quoted lower than the prevailing FD rate, then there is a possibility that the offered rate is quoted in flat rate. If so, the effective rate is 5.53%, which is higher than your FD 4+% placement.
Tells us your loan principal and instalment amount, I can help to calculate whether it's a flat rate or not.

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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 02:42 AM)
During this moratorium period, there is no installment required for 6 months. However, interest on the principle is still being accrued, just not compounded.

Therefore, if the money used for installment monthly is used to pay off the principle in total. Would this be a wise move to make full use of the moratorium?
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Good morning Toos99

Depends.

When you make a monthly installment, interest portion will be deducted first, before using the balance to knock off your principal amount.

If during this moratorium, you keep paying your instalment monthly, there is no difference.

However if you pay the 6 months instalment in advance, after deducting your interest amount for one month, all the other amount will be used to knock off your principal amount.

Eg. If your instalment of RM1000 consist of RM700 interest and RM300 principal amount.
If you pay monthly, your principal will be lesser by RM300 every month. But if you pay RM6,000 in advance on 31st March (example), than RM700 will be deducted for interest and RM5,300 will knock off your principal amount. Hope this helps you to answer your question.
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Hi..if we have 2 month personal loan outstanding by 1 April, do we eligble for 6 month moratorium?

My friend got sms from rhb said he need to pay at least 1 month before eligble for moratorium even though at 1 april his outstanding still at 2 months..and next due date payment is middle of april
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Few questions:
1. Housing loan, no compounding interest. It is wise to take this opportunity to fully payoff the loan before the end of 6 months to enjoy interest free benefit?

2. Any impact to MRTA if there is loan tenure extension by 6 months?

3. If only left 3 months until full settlement. What would be the arrangement? pay 3 months amount one go on Oct or stretch 3 repayment until Dec?
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if i chose moratorium , will they add back the interest to my following installment or still paying the same installment amount ?
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if i chose moratorium , will they add back the interest to my following installment or still paying the same installment amount ?
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Will add to your total outstanding and then recalculate a new instalment for you
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Good morning Toos99

Depends.

When you make a monthly installment, interest portion will be deducted first, before using the balance to knock off your principal amount.

If during this moratorium, you keep paying your instalment monthly, there is no difference.

However if you pay the 6 months instalment in advance, after deducting your interest amount for one month,  all the other amount will be used to knock off your principal amount.

Eg. If your instalment of RM1000 consist of RM700 interest and RM300 principal amount.
If you pay monthly, your principal will be lesser by RM300 every month. But if you pay RM6,000 in advance on 31st March (example), than RM700 will be deducted for interest and RM5,300 will knock off your principal amount. Hope this helps you to answer your question.
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Thank you so much Cyclopes. I get what you mean but I’m Not sure if your example is my case add well. Let me give my example:

I’ve an installment of 1K a month where 300 goes to principle and 700 goes to interest. Same like your example.

With moratorium, there’s no installment for 6 months. However, I continue to pay monthly but towards the principle alone ie I pay 1000 to principle monthly.

This would help me to lessen the amount of interest because it is calculated based on the principle owed, isn’t it?

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April - September still charges interest.
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Sorry a stupid question here:

Any difference between?

1. Opt in + continue to pay monthly installment + no compounded interest for 6 months (interest is still accrued)
2. Opt out + continue to pay monthly installment as it is

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Will add to your total outstanding and then recalculate a new instalment for you
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For house loans, if you opt in, then the principal will remain as is for 6 mths, the daily rest interest calcs will be based on this un-touched principal for 6 mths.

Therefore you will end up paying more interest relatively speaking, as opposed to your regular monthly payments whereby the interest reduces gradually as this is based on a reduced principal.
Just my simple man-on-the-street observation, sorry if its incorrect.

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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 12:29 PM)
Tq. I hope my question is clear. The installment money that I have, is now used to pay the principle only as opposed to installment which is a combination of principle and interest.
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My answer is a simple "Yes", but actually it is not as simple as that. it depends on
1. how you do it.
2. your housing loan type: fixed rate? semi-flexi? full-flexi?
3. your bank's policy towards this moratorium
4. your bank's interest calculation method

Therefore, no straight answer actually, you need to understand your position before how you are going to execute it.

What I am thinking is you accumulate 6 months of installment and then pay to the bank in 1 go. Or you every month go to the bank to do capital repayment, but better think twice especially under MCO period.

Well, actually it depends on ur bank, and also how you pay.
1. some banks need you to apply opt-out, but some banks, they say you dont need to apply opt-out. They will consider you opt-out if you continue paying your installment. So, be careful on this. If you plan to do knock off some of your principle but didnt check on this and accidentally opt-out then this moratorium of housing loan hv nothing to do with you.

2. let say your bank need to apply for opt-out, but you didnt apply, so you are opt in now. You continue pay ur monthly installment, this money will goes into your "advance payment". Some bank will consider advance payment as some sort of capital repayment and their interest calculation formula will take this advance payment into consideration, the only difference is that you cannot withdraw this money from advance payment unlike capital repayment, so you will still be able achieve what you are thinking of. If your bank's interest calculation does not consider advance payment in their formula then your money will be sitting there doing nothing at all.

Will your bank although say need to apply for opt-out and you didnt apply it and you pay online as per current, and your bank suddenly U-turn to consider you as opt-out? hahaha, getting more complex now..

3. you need to know ur housing loan account type, and how they do calculation, then only you can know how you are going to pay. Different types of loan account's method works differently in different banks.

4. dont forget, you only think of knock out the principle. Did you forgot that the interest charge in this 6 months will later be add in to your principle? Do take that into consideration to work out your method.

5. can you resists the temptation of having these money and wont spend it else where? or are you able to make extra out of these money? Only you can tell

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 29 2020, 12:46 PM)
Sorry a stupid question here:

Any difference between?

1. Opt in + continue to pay monthly installment + no compounded interest for 6 months (interest is still accrued)
2. Opt out + continue to pay monthly installment as it is
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No difference. That's why borrower should accept the moratorium first and wait and see. The biggest employer SME were totally neglected in latest makcik kiah stimulus package. I don't think SME can continue as a going concern.



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If my mthly loan is 1800, with interest 1400 + principal 400

If deffer 6 mths, mean i need pay extra interest of 1400 * 6?
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If my mthly loan is 1800, with interest 1400 + principal 400

If deffer 6 mths, mean i need pay extra interest of  1400 * 6?
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You still need to pay for the interest during the 6-months period.

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QUOTE(deity01 @ Mar 29 2020, 01:24 PM)
My answer is a simple "Yes", but actually it is not as simple as that. it depends on
1. how you do it.
2. your housing loan type: fixed rate? semi-flexi? full-flexi?
3. your bank's policy towards this moratorium
4. your bank's interest calculation method

Therefore, no straight answer actually, you need to understand your position before how you are going to execute it.

What I am thinking is you accumulate 6 months of installment and then pay to the bank in 1 go. Or you every month go to the bank to do capital repayment, but better think twice especially under MCO period.

Well, actually it depends on ur bank, and also how you pay.
1. some banks need you to apply opt-out, but some banks, they say you dont need to apply opt-out. They will consider you opt-out if you continue paying your installment. So, be careful on this. If you plan to do knock off some of your principle but didnt check on this and accidentally opt-out then this moratorium of housing loan hv nothing to do with you.

2. let say your bank need to apply for opt-out, but you didnt apply, so you are opt in now. You continue pay ur monthly installment, this money will goes into your "advance payment". Some bank will consider advance payment as some sort of capital repayment and their interest calculation formula will take this advance payment into consideration, the only difference is that you cannot withdraw this money from advance payment unlike capital repayment, so you will still be able achieve what you are thinking of. If your bank's interest calculation does not consider advance payment in their formula then your money will be sitting there doing nothing at all.

Will your bank although say need to apply for opt-out and you didnt apply it and you pay online as per current, and your bank suddenly U-turn to consider you as opt-out? hahaha, getting more complex now..

3. you need to know ur housing loan account type, and how they do calculation, then only you can know how you are going to pay. Different types of loan account's method works differently in different banks.

4. dont forget, you only think of knock out the principle. Did you forgot that the interest charge in this 6 months will later be add in to your principle? Do take that into consideration to work out your method.

5. can you resists the temptation of having these money and wont spend it else where? or are you able to make extra out of these money? Only you can tell
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Omg that’s a really detailed response. Thank you very much. If only the customer service can explain half as good as you.

It’s a semi flexible loan from rashid where you can do principle repayments but in increments of 1000s only.

I guess I’ll probably run it by them now that I have more knowledge from you.

If anyone has more details, pls share.
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 01:51 PM)
Omg that’s a really detailed response. Thank you very much. If only the customer service can explain half as good as you.

It’s a semi flexible loan from rashid where you can do principle repayments but in increments of 1000s only.

I guess I’ll probably run it by them now that I have more knowledge from you.

If anyone has more details, pls share.
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RHB? I'm using same bank as u, fully flexi.
I'm thinking it makes no diff at all as even they don't deduct principle, any payment make into it will deduct interest.
Normally I just park all my excess money there.

U know prepayment is multiple of 1k, but withdrawal can be any amount right
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QUOTE(yxx01 @ Mar 29 2020, 01:29 PM)
If my mthly loan is 1800, with interest 1400 + principal 400

If deffer 6 mths, mean i need pay extra interest of  1400 * 6?
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If your bank don't compound interest on interest , here's how your bank accrue your interest over 6 months moratorium, just fill in your outstanding loan balance as at 31st and interest rate in, the formula below.

Balance x rate% x 183days / 365days = Interest accrued

The accrued interest will then added to your outstanding loan balance after the moratorium. The bank will then adjust either the loan tenure or instalment amount accordingly. The effective rate will remain the same.
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 01:51 PM)
Omg that’s a really detailed response. Thank you very much. If only the customer service can explain half as good as you.

It’s a semi flexible loan from rashid where you can do principle repayments but in increments of 1000s only.

I guess I’ll probably run it by them now that I have more knowledge from you.

If anyone has more details, pls share.
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Well, actually there are more things to consider, like ur current remaining loan tenure, ur current oustanding and etc, but I already lazy to type...

no choice, because there is no straight forward simple answer, because ppl do things differently, and banks works differently.

The simplest method that can fit for everyone is, opt-in, save up the cash, if didnt use the cash at the end of the 6 months, do capital repayment at the end of Sept
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 02:23 PM)
Mine is semi. I’ve not withdrawn any excess payment I’ve made till date so I’m not quite sure the process of withdrawing.

I’m just trying to capitalize on this moratorium period and see if I could reduce as much principle as possible throughout the period.

However, it seems awfully complex and at the end of the day, you’d not be saving a lot anyway. Probably my last resort is opt out and just do what I do as usual. Unless, of course, I lose my income then I’ll have to opt in again lol.

I’ll speak to them again come Monday and see which method works best. Just getting tired of them telling me anything more complex than 1+1, you’ll have to refer to home branch where it goes into a black hole after that.
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I'm not sure about semi-flexi, but mine just as simple as clicking a few button on the rhb online to withdraw.
Yea I thinking it make more sense to opt out for house loan, just opt in for hire purchase IMHO.
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QUOTE(toos99 @ Mar 29 2020, 12:27 PM)
Thank you so much Cyclopes. I get what you mean but I’m Not sure if your example is my case add well. Let me give my example:

I’ve an installment of 1K a month where 300 goes to principle and 700 goes to interest. Same like your example.

With moratorium, there’s no installment for 6 months. However, I continue to pay monthly but towards the principle alone ie I pay 1000 to principle monthly.

This would help me to lessen the amount of interest because it is calculated based on the principle owed, isn’t it?
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Hi Toos99,

Understand your question perfectly well. I have also checked the BNM guidelines for clarity.

What the moratorium provides is suspension of instalment payment. What is not suspended is accrual of monthly interest on the outstanding principal amount by the banks.

The BNM guidelines is silent when will the accrued interest will be added to your principal amount; whether it's at the end of each month or the total interest amount is only added at the end of 6th month. This can only be addressed by your bank. Good to check with them.  But if I were to make a guess, likely the bank will add interest to you principal sum on a monthly basis instead of a lump sum  at the end of the 6 month period.

If my guess is correct, my  example still applies. But if the interest in lumped at the end of the 6th month, than you will benefit if you pay monthly to reduce the principal sum. Keep us informed if you get a response from the bank, together we benefit from your knowledge.
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Hey guys, would like to clarify with Hire Purchase.

Since technically interest is already calculated upfront and then the monthly payments are equally distributed till the end of the HP period, are they going to count extra interest on the 6 months of moratorium? Or is it my monthly payments are essentially just pushed back by 6 months but the total final payments I make are the same even if there was no moratorium?
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For HP car loan, no extra interest incurred. Your installment plan just extends for 6 mths.
Its pretty straight forward.
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If your bank don't compound interest on interest , here's how your bank accrue your interest over 6 months moratorium, just fill in your outstanding loan  balance as at 31st and interest rate in, the formula below.

Balance x rate% x 183days / 365days = Interest accrued

The accrued interest will then added to your outstanding loan balance after the moratorium. The bank will then adjust either the loan tenure or instalment amount accordingly. The effective rate will remain the same.
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Thanks for your offer but let me illustrate further.

Assume, you take RM 100k at 2.88% per year interest.

The interest for one year is RM 2,880. Add it to the principal of RM 100k and the total payable is RM 102,880. Monthly installment will be RM 8573.33 (Total payable divided by 12).

Take the RM 100k and invest in a FD at 4.3% and at the end of one year, you will get RM 4,300 (assume bullet payment at the end of the tenure - if monthly interest payment, the amount will be higher if you reinvest the interest into FD). The amount will add up to RM 104,300.

It does not matter what the effective interest rate is. The most important is - do you make more money or not from the investment amount compared to the payable amount?

In this case, the delta is RM 1,420 or 1.42%. (RM 104,300-RM 102,880) Precisely why I took up this offer.

Just to update anyone who may have also taken this type of loans, I called HSBC and they confirmed that:-

1. There is no moratorium
2. There is no advantage in early settlement as it is fixed interest for the tenure

But...HSBC asked to check back on Apr 1 - perhaps there will some relief? If yes, it's a bonus, the repayment amount take to reinvest into another FD (virtually risk free) for 6 months (tenure of moratorium) and make more money.



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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 30 2020, 09:20 AM)
Thanks for your offer but let me illustrate further.

Assume, you take RM 100k at 2.88% per year interest.

The interest for one year is RM 2,880. Add it to the principal of RM 100k and the total payable is RM 102,880. Monthly installment will be RM 8573.33 (Total payable divided by 12).

Take the RM 100k and invest in a FD at 4.3% and at the end of one year, you will get RM 4,300 (assume bullet payment at the end of the tenure - if monthly interest payment, the amount will be higher if you reinvest the interest into FD). The amount will add up to RM 104,300.

It does not matter what the effective interest rate is. The most important is - do you make more money or not from the investment amount compared to the payable amount?

In this case, the delta is RM 1,420 or 1.42%. (RM 104,300-RM 102,880) Precisely why I took up this offer.

Just to update anyone who may have also taken this type of loans, I called HSBC and they confirmed that:-

1. There is no moratorium
2. There is no advantage in early settlement as it is fixed interest for the tenure

But...HSBC asked to check back on Apr 1 - perhaps there will some relief? If yes, it's a bonus, the repayment amount take to reinvest into another FD (virtually risk free) for 6 months (tenure of moratorium) and make more money.
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HSBC still offers 4.3% p.a FD at current economic situation?
Are you their Premiere Banking customer?

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HSBC still offers 4.3% p.a FD at current economic situation?
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Nope. The best rates are in the FD thread (you can refer there for the current rates).

1 year ago, the best I managed was 4.38% from HLB Bank and then 4.3% from UOB. That is discounting the Banks which are not banks such as Bank Rakyat at 5% or more.

Just received an offer from UOB for 0% for 12 months for x amount. That was one of the reasons why I wanted to settle the HSBC outstanding earlier to maximize gains in the safest way possible.

Just look out for offers from banks - I think they will do their part to stimulate the economy by providing cheap money.

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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 30 2020, 09:42 AM)
Nope. The best rates are in the FD thread (you can refer there for the current rates).

1 year ago, the best I managed was 4.38% from HLB Bank and then 4.3% from UOB. That is discounting the Banks which are not banks such as Bank Rakyat at 5% or more.

Just received an offer from UOB for 0% for 12 months for x amount. That was one of the reasons why I wanted to settle the HSBC outstanding earlier to maximize gains in the safest way possible.

Just look out for offers from banks - I think they will do their part to stimulate the economy by providing cheap money.
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All these facilities are churned out from the credit card right?
Amount available is highly depending on the credit card limit?
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I took the time to read through over and over and finally decided to opt out.
Main reason is bankers I asked couldn't even answer my questions, or did not answer my question which I could've found in this thread.

I wanted to save the 6 months repayment, then place it as special settlement for principal sum. I feel this is a bit tricky, and from how banks advertise "no compound interest charged" still does not answer the simple interest since it is only "not compounding interest on interest".

Good discussion going on here
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Guys, in case u take up the moratorium until 30-Sept, do take note of your loan payment due date in October.

If your installment payment due date is for instance on 1-Oct, then you might need to bank in before then.

Do check with your bank regarding this, so that there are no delays and the bank wont issue you with a reminder.

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 30 2020, 10:15 AM)
Guys, in case u take up the moratorium until 30-Sept, do take note of your loan payment due date in October.

If your installment payment due date is for instance on 1-Oct, then you might need to bank in before then.

Do check with your bank regarding this, so that there are no delays and the bank wont issue you with a reminder.
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good pointer, as for mine it is standing instruction on every 1st, so my habit is to transfer funds to SI acc on salary day icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 30 2020, 09:43 AM)
All these facilities are churned out from the credit card right?
Amount available is highly depending on the credit card limit?
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Yes, it is coming out from credit card facility and also dependent on the credit card limit.

The highest amounts are offered by HSBC and Citibank, based on multiplier effect on your pay. UOB credit card limit is similar to Maybank - considerably less but then again, it is the banks risk management policy.

However, from time to time, some companies such as Standard Chartered will offer pre-approved credit separate from credit card facility. It is good but at high interest rates - it is commonly at least 7-8% or more.


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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 30 2020, 09:20 AM)
Thanks for your offer but let me illustrate further.

Assume, you take RM 100k at 2.88% per year interest.

The interest for one year is RM 2,880. Add it to the principal of RM 100k and the total payable is RM 102,880. Monthly installment will be RM 8573.33 (Total payable divided by 12).

Take the RM 100k and invest in a FD at 4.3% and at the end of one year, you will get RM 4,300 (assume bullet payment at the end of the tenure - if monthly interest payment, the amount will be higher if you reinvest the interest into FD). The amount will add up to RM 104,300.

It does not matter what the effective interest rate is. The most important is - do you make more money or not from the investment amount compared to the payable amount?

In this case, the delta is RM 1,420 or 1.42%. (RM 104,300-RM 102,880) Precisely why I took up this offer.

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No sir, it doesn't calculate that way. You have omitted the time factor in your calculation.
You place (FD) 100k with the bank @ 4.3% p.a. The bank don't have to pay you back every month until maturity date.
On the other hand, the bank use the 100k fund and loan it back to you @ 2.88% and you have to repay the loan+Interest every month, that means the bank is not actually lending you a fixed 100k for the entire tenure. So there is a TIME factor involved.
That's why you need to calculate the Effective Annual Rate (EAR). In your case, the bank's EAR is 5.53%p.a. and your EAR is 4.30% . The bank earn a spread of 1.23% over your FD placement.

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Just checked maybank website - fill up online form if you want to opt out (takes 3 working days)

Public bank - need to fill up a form and email them if you want to opt in


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Just checked maybank website - fill up online form if you want to opt out (takes 3 working days)

Public bank - need to fill up a form and email them if you want to opt in
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SMS channel will be available soon right?
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Just checked maybank website - fill up online form if you want to opt out (takes 3 working days)

Public bank - need to fill up a form and email them if you want to opt in
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pbb, want to opt in need to fill up form? u sure? I thought all is auto opt in?
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pbb, want to opt in need to fill up form? u sure? I thought all is auto opt in?
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SMS channel will be available soon right?
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My friend said he received SMS for his hire purchase with MBB.

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My friend said he received SMS for his hire purchase with MBB.
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My colleague receive it also but seems its a scam? Cuz it will ask you to fill in your detail if you opt. out?
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My colleague receive it also but seems its a scam? Cuz it will ask you to fill in your detail if you opt. out?
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RM0.00 RM0 MBB/MIB memberi penangguhan ansuran otomobil selama 6 bulan bermula 1 Apr 2020. Jika tidak setuju, sila balas "TIDAKSETUJU<IC NO><NO KERETA>
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 30 2020, 12:14 PM)
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RM0.00 RM0 MBB/MIB memberi penangguhan ansuran otomobil selama 6 bulan bermula 1 Apr 2020. Jika tidak setuju, sila balas "TIDAKSETUJU<IC NO><NO KERETA>
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Ya this one.. call MBB check better. Saw in FB ppl say is scam.
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Ya this one.. call MBB check better. Saw in FB ppl say is scam.
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I had notified my friend.
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Just checked maybank website - fill up online form if you want to opt out (takes 3 working days)

Public bank - need to fill up a form and email them if you want to opt in
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for Public Bank, you meant opt out from the moratorium, correct ?
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If I opted out now, then if I lost my job next month, can I opt in again?
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If I opted out now, then if I lost my job next month, can I opt in again?
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My friend also asked me the same.
I wish to get answer too.
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4933724&hl=

My monthly repayment is 1.8K and i think i understand that this amount is total of principal amount + interest am i correct?

So let say i defer for 6 months and then on the 6th month i pay up all the previous 6 months in 1 shot. In this case there will not incur any extra interest other than the normal amount?
I'm still able to make the payment now but if possible i want to keep the money for in case emergency..
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=4933724&hl=

My monthly repayment is 1.8K and i think i understand that this amount is total of principal amount + interest am i correct?

So let say i defer for 6 months and then on the 6th month i pay up all the previous 6 months in 1 shot. In this case there will not incur any extra interest other than the normal amount?
I'm still able to make the payment now but if possible i want to keep the money for in case emergency..
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Last time I kena 1 time before for HSBC, I late pay 3 days for housing loan. Then saw a msg reminder and also interest accrued in my online account statement. Of course that time I they have interest above interest but the amount is like a few hundred ringgit. After I paid of the interest accrued gone. So the answer is YES.
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anyone received a call after filling up a form on Public Bank website? Tried calling them but its engaged the whole day.
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anyone received a call after filling up a form on Public Bank website? Tried calling them but its engaged the whole day.
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Sorry, just asking,.... Is there a stated condition that PBB will call you once you completed & submitted the online form?
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Eh guys, i wanna check for Maybank, housing loan.
It is confirmed no compound but accrued interest still applicable kan?

Accrued interest = 7th month onwards, monthly installment is slightly higher until the 6 month interest paid off.

Called their customer service, tell me both Housing and Car loan no interest, but i suspect she also not sure.

To me, if accrued i rather just continue paying house since I still got my job. #syukur
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If I opted out now, then if I lost my job next month, can I opt in again?
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call the bank and find out
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call the bank and find out
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Bank Cs said write in n wait for reply..
So you also don't know..


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for Public Bank, you meant opt out from the moratorium, correct ?
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from the PB website sounds like you have to apply for both opt in or out
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from the PB website sounds like you have to apply for both opt in or out
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I want to opt-out from the moratorium, how can I do that?

If you wish to opt-out from this moratorium, please send us the information below by SMS before 5 April 2020:
Type RHBOPTOUT <space> last 4-digit IC number <space> last 4-digit loan/financing account number and send to 66300

NOTE: Please send a separate SMS for each loan/financing payment you wish to opt-out.

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?

The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e. Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment[1] with an additional tenure of 6 months[2].

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension[2].

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
[1]The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off the deferred interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid.
[2]Extension of tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing.

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QUOTE(taufoo @ Mar 30 2020, 06:45 PM)
Eh guys, i wanna check for Maybank, housing loan.
It is confirmed no compound but accrued interest still applicable kan?

Accrued interest = 7th month onwards, monthly installment is slightly higher until the 6 month interest paid off.

Called their customer service, tell me both Housing and Car loan no interest, but i suspect she also not sure.

To me, if accrued i rather just continue paying house since I still got my job. #syukur
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Your loan will likely adjust to 20- 100 bucks higher per month for the remainder of your loan.
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Your loan will likely adjust to 20- 100 bucks higher per month for the remainder of your loan.
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Your source please? Or its your assumption?
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RHB: https://www.rhbgroup.com/covid_retail/index.html

I want to opt-out from the moratorium, how can I do that?

If you wish to opt-out from this moratorium, please send us the information below by SMS before 5 April 2020:
Type RHBOPTOUT <space> last 4-digit IC number <space> last 4-digit loan/financing account number and send to 66300

NOTE: Please send a separate SMS for each loan/financing payment you wish to opt-out.
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Why opt out ? read this - https://propdigy.wordpress.com/2020/03/30/w...-with-interest/

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Your loan will likely adjust to 20- 100 bucks higher per month for the remainder of your loan.
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Depends, you can choose to pay off your interest after 6 months and repayment should stay the same .

https://propdigy.wordpress.com/2020/03/30/w...-with-interest/
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from the PB website sounds like you have to apply for both opt in or out
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For opt in, nothing to be done, bro.
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Personally those banks listed which isn't going to compound the interest I would say just take the auto opt it and do nothing bah.

In my case I have one HLB home loan.. for that itself I'll continue to pay. After calculating it's going to be a pain in the ass if you choose not to pay and yet let the interest continue to "pound" on you. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Mar 31 2020, 10:57 AM)
Personally those banks listed which isn't going to compound the interest I would say just take the auto opt it and do nothing bah.

In my case I have one HLB home loan.. for that itself I'll continue to pay. After calculating it's going to be a pain in the ass if you choose not to pay and yet let the interest continue to "pound" on you. biggrin.gif
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HLB confem will compound the interests ?
I wonder why they chose to be the odd one out.

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HLB confem will compound the interests ?
I wonder why they chose to be the odd one out.
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yah bro.. most likely, even I logged in to the HLB portal they did not mentioned anything about interest with not be compounded I only get a statement if you decided to opt out just continue to pay your home loan. biggrin.gif
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finally, CIMB's FAQs are up

COVID-19 RELIEF MEASURES AND SUPPORT
FAQ (ENG) Updated 10 Apr 2020 | FAQ (BM) Updated 10 Apr 2020
T&C (ENG) Updated 3 Apr 2020 | T&C (BM) Updated 3 Apr 2020

Aligned with BNM’s announcement, effective 1st April 2020 CIMB will provide a 6-month automatic moratorium for our individual customers on all types of financing payment except for credit cards as long as the Loan/Financings are:

- Not more than 90 days past due as at 1st April 2020
- In Ringgit Malaysia denomination

Important note:
To Opt Out from this programme, send an SMS request to 62666 by 7 April 2020 11.59PM as per below, for each of your loans/financing accounts:

OPTOUT<space>Last 4 Digits NRIC/Passport number<space>Loan/Financing Account Number

Reply: RM0.00 CIMB: TQ, we are processing your opt-out reply & will update you soon. Don't forget to send SMS request to opt-out for other financing accts

Results: RM0.00 CIMB: Your account ending xxxx has been opted out from the moratorium programme. Please continue to make payment by your monthly due date. Thank you

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Frequently Asked Questions for Individual Loan/Financing Products under HLB Loan/HLISB Financing Deferment Program ( Version 29 Mar ch 2020 )
https://www.hlb.com.my/content/dam/hlb/my/d...program-faq.pdf

FAQs like....
Does that mean my instalment or repayment/payment is higher after the moratorium?
Will the deferred instalments incur any compounded interest/profit?.

is inside there too...

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Bank Islam CS gave confusing advice. Not sure true or not. They said if you took Islamic housing loan with fixed rate, it comes with maximum ceiling price. Given the fixed rate is already high (6-8% per annum), they could not charge more profit to the actual bank ceiling/sale price. Because of that, the CS maybe (see to word maybe), you will not pay more for the profit/interest at the end of tenure. Aiyoo
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What happens if I choose to continue loan payment without informing the bank? 🤔 In my case: RHB
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I have a home loan with AmBank and I'm looking to continue making my repayment during the moratorium period. From my conversation with the call centre, they assured me two things if I did so:

1. The payment made during the moratorium period will 100% go to reducing principal.

2. For each payment made, there is no need to advise the bank to have the payment go into reducing principal. Everything will be automated during the moratorium. I had to clarify this because in the past when I do put additional cash into my home loan, they will just treat it as pre-payment instead of reducing the principal. So I had to give the bank a call to instruct them to have the cash reduce my principal.

To be honest, I'm quite sceptical of his answer. I'll make my payment tomorrow (1st Apr) via AmOnline and see if points (1) and (2) hold true. Anyone here has a home loan with AmBank and also thinking of continuing their payment during the moratorium period? Are you guys getting the same info as well?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 31 2020, 10:27 AM)
Frequently Asked Questions for Individual Loan/Financing Products under HLB Loan/HLISB Financing Deferment Program ( Version 29 Mar ch 2020 )
https://www.hlb.com.my/content/dam/hlb/my/d...program-faq.pdf

FAQs like....
Does that mean my instalment or repayment/payment is higher after the moratorium?
Will the deferred instalments incur any compounded interest/profit?.

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My monthly repayment is 1.8K and i think i understand that this amount is total of principal amount + interest am i correct?

So let say i defer for 6 months and then on the 6th month i pay up all the previous 6 months in 1 shot. In this case there will not incur any extra interest other than the normal amount?
I'm still able to make the payment now but if possible i want to keep the money for in case emergency..
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Anyone can clarify on this? Assuming no additional charges comes from prepayment on 7th month
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QUOTE(sewjin @ Mar 31 2020, 12:13 PM)
I have a home loan with AmBank and I'm looking to continue making my repayment during the moratorium period. From my conversation with the call centre, they assured me two things if I did so:

1. The payment made during the moratorium period will 100% go to reducing principal.

2. For each payment made, there is no need to advise the bank to have the payment go into reducing principal. Everything will be automated during the moratorium. I had to clarify this because in the past when I do put additional cash into my home loan, they will just treat it as pre-payment instead of reducing the principal. So I had to give the bank a call to instruct them to have the cash reduce my principal.

To be honest, I'm quite sceptical of his answer. I'll make my payment tomorrow (1st Apr) via AmOnline and see if points (1) and (2) hold true. Anyone here has a home loan with AmBank and also thinking of continuing their payment during the moratorium period? Are you guys getting the same info as well?
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I fully understand your situation. In fact I have asked my bank of many things in which their answers are not up to our satisfaction and they are not confident when delivering the information. Apparently we need correct information to make decision
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Anyone can clarify on this? Assuming no additional charges comes from prepayment on 7th month
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If you immediately dump all your monthly moratorium savings back into your loan on month 7 day 1 to reduce loan principal (net debt) then you will bring the loan principal back down to where it would have been if you never did anything, plus or minus pocket change.

There is a difference between a non-compounded interest accrued when you opt for moratorium, and a compounded interest savings made when you opt out and keep paying (because your month 2-6 interest will be lower and lower as you pay off principal). The difference is pocket change.

Also, putting your monthly moratorium savings into FD at 3% might give you an offsetting pocket income against above pocket change.

For a RM500,000 outstanding principal, we're talking about less than RM100 nett difference.

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For Public Bank, you only need to inform them via the online form on the PBB website if you wish to opt out.
For opt in, nothing to be done, bro.
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QUOTE(sewjin @ Mar 31 2020, 12:13 PM)
I have a home loan with AmBank and I'm looking to continue making my repayment during the moratorium period. From my conversation with the call centre, they assured me two things if I did so:

1. The payment made during the moratorium period will 100% go to reducing principal.

2. For each payment made, there is no need to advise the bank to have the payment go into reducing principal. Everything will be automated during the moratorium. I had to clarify this because in the past when I do put additional cash into my home loan, they will just treat it as pre-payment instead of reducing the principal. So I had to give the bank a call to instruct them to have the cash reduce my principal.

To be honest, I'm quite sceptical of his answer. I'll make my payment tomorrow (1st Apr) via AmOnline and see if points (1) and (2) hold true. Anyone here has a home loan with AmBank and also thinking of continuing their payment during the moratorium period? Are you guys getting the same info as well?
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This depends on your bank loan contract terms. if contract states you need to inform bank whenever you want to pre-pay to reduce principal, then you must, or otherwise it just sits there doing nothing until it's deducted against your next scheduled payment. This is standard procedure in most banks.

Flexi loans usually don't need notice.
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For HP must apply. Approval subject to case to case basis.
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for HP also auto apply to all. BNM announcement override all previous bank announcements.
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i called pbb they said my car loan will not have any interest charge, it just that extend 6 mth periods
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seems like many still don't understand the difference between accrued and compound interest for mortgage loan. good luck to those.
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Seems like there maybe people who thinks they knows the differents, but are just not sure, thus they does not want to tell so as to prevent being slammed for being wrong.
Lagi worst are those who knows but does not want to help out to clarify.


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I have a hire purchase (car loan) with Maybank. But first payment for loan will most probably be after April as I won't be getting my new car anytime soon with this mco. Does this mean I'm not automatically qualified for this loan deferment (if based on this clause as attached) ?


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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 31 2020, 01:21 PM)
If you immediately dump all your monthly moratorium savings back into your loan on month 7 day 1 to reduce loan principal (net debt) then you will bring the loan principal back down to where it would have been if you never did anything, plus or minus pocket change.

There is a difference between a non-compounded interest accrued when you opt for moratorium, and a compounded interest savings made when you opt out and keep paying (because your month 2-6 interest will be lower and lower as you pay off principal). The difference is pocket change.

Also, putting your monthly moratorium savings into FD at 3% might give you an offsetting pocket income against above pocket change.

For a RM500,000 outstanding principal, we're talking about less than RM100 nett difference.
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but lets say if you dont opt for the moratorium.

and you continue paying your unchanged monthly installment for the remaining loan tenure (apart from movements in OPR) just for an additional 6 months, how would you pay extra?

sorry for asking so much, I'm just very curious rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 31 2020, 10:32 PM)
but lets say if you dont opt for the moratorium.

and you continue paying your unchanged monthly installment for the remaining loan tenure (apart from movements in OPR) just for an additional 6 months, how would you pay extra?

sorry for asking so much, I'm just very curious  rclxub.gif
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Sorry I don't get you question.

If you don't opt for the moratorium, then nothing changes, of course.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Mar 31 2020, 10:34 PM)
Sorry I don't get you question.

If you don't opt for the moratorium, then nothing changes, of course.
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sorry my bad. I mean if you opt for the moratorium, and you just continue paying every month until the end of the loan tenor.

assuming the monthly loan installment remains constant apart from movements in OPR, you would still pay essentially the same number of months and amount.

so how would you pay extra if you opt in?

as per my understanding, the interest accrue will not be compounded so the interest will be added into the principal balance, hence the longer tenure is necessary to pay longer.
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sorry my bad. I mean if you opt for the moratorium, and you just continue paying every month until the end of the loan tenor.

assuming the monthly loan installment remains constant apart from movements in OPR, you would still pay essentially the same number of months and amount.

so how would you pay extra if you opt in?

as per my understanding, the interest accrue will not be compounded so the interest will be added into the principal balance, hence the longer tenure is necessary to pay longer.
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If you opt in.. the bank has two ways to cater to your higher loan amount now... They can increase monthly payment amount, increase your loan tenure, or both.

You cannot take the moratorium, get charged 6 months of interest, and expect to still maintain monthly amount and loan tenure.
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If you opt in.. the bank has two ways to cater to your higher loan amount now... They can increase monthly payment amount, increase your loan tenure, or both.

You cannot take the moratorium, get charged 6 months of interest, and expect to still maintain monthly amount and loan tenure.
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yup, so RHB is doing the latter which is to increase tenor.

extracted based on their website:

What would happen to my loan/financing after the moratorium period?

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?
The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e. Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment1 with an additional tenure of 6 months2.

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension2.

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off the deferred interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid. 2Extension of tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing.


That's why from the above you don't really lose out much even if you opt in for the moratorium apart from movements in the OPR. The only argument people are saying now is that if you're not short of cash, why not pay now while the BLR is so low.

But apart from the BLR savings which to me is marginal, you don't really pay ADDITIONAL interest per say. Of course after the deferment your 7th and 8th month payments will predominantly used to settle interest, so your principal amount won't touch much.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 31 2020, 11:23 PM)
yup, so RHB is doing the latter which is to increase tenor.

extracted based on their website:

What would happen to my loan/financing after the moratorium period?

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?
The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e. Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment1 with an additional tenure of 6 months2.

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension2.

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off the deferred interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid. 2Extension of tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing.


That's why from the above you don't really lose out much even if you opt in for the moratorium apart from movements in the OPR. The only argument people are saying now is that if you're not short of cash, why not pay now while the BLR is so low.

But apart from the BLR savings which to me is marginal, you don't really pay ADDITIONAL interest per say. Of course after the deferment your 7th and 8th month payments will predominantly used to settle interest, so your principal amount won't touch much.
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Interesting. RHB wants to collect on all the accrued interest from the moratorium first, from month 7 onwards, before resuming your normal loan amortisation and principal reduction again.

I cannot imagine how this can work for someone who just started their loan and a large portion of their monthly payment goes to servicing interest..... In month 7, not only do you have to pay off the accrued interest, But you also have the month 7 interest to pay off as well...

Best to call up your RHB banker to clarify. My assumption is still that they increase monthly payment or extend loan tenure for as long as it takes to fully pay off the loan.
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Maybank updated the system. Good job.
Majority other banks still remain the same. Payment due date still stated in Apr 2020.

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Maybank updated the system. Good job.
Majority other banks still remain the same. Payment due date still stated in Apr 2020.

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But I had filled in the opt out form, not effective yet?
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QUOTE(diversity @ Mar 31 2020, 11:23 PM)
yup, so RHB is doing the latter which is to increase tenor.

extracted based on their website:

What would happen to my loan/financing after the moratorium period?

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?
The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e. Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment1 with an additional tenure of 6 months2.

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension2.

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off the deferred interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid. 2Extension of tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing.


That's why from the above you don't really lose out much even if you opt in for the moratorium apart from movements in the OPR. The only argument people are saying now is that if you're not short of cash, why not pay now while the BLR is so low.

But apart from the BLR savings which to me is marginal, you don't really pay ADDITIONAL interest per say. Of course after the deferment your 7th and 8th month payments will predominantly used to settle interest, so your principal amount won't touch much.
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Given the situation, I honestly doubt the OPR is going to go up in the coming months or even years.

My question is can we opt for the moratorium, but use the amount to just pay down the principal which will lower the overall interest required to be paid. Or would that negate the terms and cancels the moratorium.

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Given the situation, I honestly doubt the OPR is going to go up in the coming months or even years.

My question is can we opt for the moratorium, but use the amount to just pay down the principal which will lower the overall interest required to be paid. Or would that negate the terms and cancels the moratorium.

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I have house loan with Hong Leon Islamic,
But I didn’t receive any sms say start April the loan will defer ....
So I still need to pay?
Every month the loan amount will auto deduct from saving account....
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I have house loan with Hong Leon Islamic,
But I didn’t receive any sms say start April the loan will defer ....
So I still need to pay?
Every month the loan amount will auto deduct from saving account....
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Anyone has full flexi home loan with CIMB?
Does the moratorium applicable to full flexi loan or its considered as overdraft?
I did not opt-out, but I found the instalment amount was deducted from my current account linked to this full flexi loan.

QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 31 2020, 10:12 AM)
finally, CIMB's FAQs are up

COVID-19 RELIEF MEASURES AND SUPPORT | Frequently Asked Questions (ENG) | Frequently Asked Questions (BM)

Aligned with BNM’s announcement, effective 1st April 2020 CIMB will provide a 6-month automatic moratorium for our individual customers on all types of financing payment except for credit cards as long as the Loan/Financings are:

- Not more than 90 days past due as at 1st April 2020
- In Ringgit Malaysia denomination

Important note:
To Opt Out from this programme, send an SMS request to 62666 by 7 April 2020 11.59PM as per below, for each of your loans/financing accounts:

OPTOUT<space>Last 4 Digits NRIC/Passport number<space>Loan/Financing Account Number

1st response: RM0.00 CIMB: TQ, we are processing your opt-out reply & will update you soon. Don't forget to send SMS request to opt-out for other financing accts

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Anyone has full flexi home loan with CIMB?
Does the moratorium applicable to full flexi loan or its considered as overdraft?
I did not opt-out, but I found the instalment amount was deducted from my current account linked to this full flexi loan.
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Anyone has full flexi home loan with CIMB?
Does the moratorium applicable to full flexi loan or its considered as overdraft?
I did not opt-out, but I found the instalment amount was deducted from my current account linked to this full flexi loan.
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I have the same CIMB flexi also and the amount was deducted as well. I did send an sms yesterday to Opt-out but still waiting for the reply.
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I have loan with public bank. If I choose opt in is it wise decision? I plan use the monthly loan payment to invest.
I'm not sure I understand correctly public bank policy that its just prolong my loan payment to 6 months but loan amount after the interest still the same as mentioned no compounding interest.


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QUOTE(CoronaV @ Apr 1 2020, 05:37 PM)
I have loan with public bank. If I choose opt in is it wise decision? I plan use the monthly loan payment to invest.
I'm not sure I understand correctly public bank policy that its just prolong my loan payment to 6 months but loan amount after the interest still the same as mentioned no compounding interest.
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No free lunch. You will be charged non-compounded loan interest every month for 6 months and this amount will be added to your loan for you to slowly pay back, one way or another.

If you don't believe this , call public bank and ask. Why is everyone asking strangers on Lowyat, some who may not even have the correct understanding, rather than asking your banker or bank agent or customer service ?
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 1 2020, 05:42 PM)
No free lunch. You will be charged non-compounded loan interest every month for 6 months and this amount will be added to your loan for you to slowly pay back, one way or another.

If you don't believe this , call public bank and ask. Why is everyone asking strangers on Lowyat, some who may not even have the correct understanding, rather than asking your banker or bank agent or customer service ?
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What is non compounded loan interest?
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Your loan got an interest rate.. if your rate is 4% then your interest charged during moratorium is 4% of principal divided 12 months.

Compound interest is interest on your previous interest charged... "Interest on interest"... when it's compounded interest on your saving account it's the same concept... You earn interest on previous interest earned which had increased your total savings each month. Same for your loan, if last month you kena interest at rm1000, then this month your interest would be 4% of (loan principal +1,000), which means every month you get charged even more interest than last month. Non compounded means every month you get charged RM1,000 for 6 months.


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Public Bank - COVID-19 Moratorium: E-SI for PBB Loan/Financing
- 31 March 2020

Dear Valued Customers,

With reference to the recent announcement on the automatic 6-month moratorium for loans/financing effective 1 April 2020, kindly check if you have any existing E-Standing Instructions (E-SI) scheduled for your PBB Loan / Financing payment.

Please take note that the moratorium will not automatically cancel your scheduled E-SI payments to PBB Loan/Financing. If you wish to stop your scheduled E-SI payments, please log in to PBe / PB enterprise and manually delete your E-SI.

Please follow these simple steps on how to delete an E-SI:

For PBe:
Log in to PBe
After login, select ‘Account’
Click on ‘E-Standing Instruction (E-SI)’
Click on ‘Manage E-SI’
Select the E-SI you want to manage and click on ‘View Details’
Check the checkbox on which transactions you wish to delete
Click on ‘Delete’ to complete the process

For PB enterprise:
Log in to PB enterprise
After login, select ‘PB Loan/Financing Account'
Click on ‘Manage E-Standing Instruction (E-SI)’
Check the checkbox on which transactions you wish to delete
Click on ‘Cancel E-SI’
Enter a valid cancellation reason
Click 'OK' to submit for Authorizer to approve


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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 1 2020, 06:16 PM)
Your loan got an interest rate.. if your rate is 4% then your interest charged during moratorium is 4% of principal divided 12 months.

Compound interest is interest on your previous interest charged... "Interest on interest"... when it's compounded interest on your saving account it's the same concept... You earn interest on previous interest earned which had increased your total savings each month. Same for your loan, if last month you kena interest at rm1000, then this month your interest would be 4% of (loan principal +1,000), which means every month you get charged even more interest than last month. Non compounded means every month you get charged RM1,000 for 6 months.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Mar 31 2020, 10:01 AM)
HLB confem will compound the interests ?
I wonder why they chose to be the odd one out.
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sure boh?? checked their FAQs here https://www.hlb.com.my/content/dam/hlb/my/docs/pdf/Personal/homepage/hlb-hlisb-individual-loan-financing-i-deferment-program-faq.pdf

It says "will not incur compounded interest" wor...
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Due to too many different ideology on the moratarium, i have decided to proceed my loan as usual..

Too many different ideas and views about it which makes things very complicated..
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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Apr 3 2020, 03:39 PM)
Due to too many different ideology on the moratarium, i have decided to proceed my loan as usual..

Too many different ideas and views about it which makes things very complicated..
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It is just a decision between hold payment or continue payment... nothing complicated ahahaha
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 3 2020, 03:46 PM)
It is just a decision between hold payment or continue payment... nothing complicated ahahaha
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I think,
those that has possible cash flow problem would have no complication, as "hold" would be ideal,
those that has no cash flow problem would opt for the continue to pay as they does not want to have the possibility of addition interest charged...
only those that has "cash" and would like to "squeeze" some extra "saving" out of it, then it is complicated,..... biggrin.gif
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Hmm, in dilemma whether to continue paying installments or not..
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Unless you are in the essential services sector, it's better to take the moratorium first and decide later. Economy outlook is pretty gloomy in the 2H of 2020.

Either opt in nor opt out, your loan effective rate will be remain the same as quoted in your letter of offer.
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Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 3 2020, 10:31 PM)
Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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thanks bro....very clear with calculation
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 3 2020, 10:31 PM)
Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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A few times the writer compared apples with oranges.

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That said, it makes sense to still take the deferment and save the money in a fixed deposit with 4% p.a. returns for the next 30 years. If you chose repayment Option 3 in the example above, you will earn a nett amount of RM22,970.51 (after deducing the interest charges in the same timeframe). It may not be much, but hey, this is RM22,970.51 more in your pocket than if you didn’t take the deferment whatsoever.


Up until the last bit where he compared the additional interest paid when taking the moratorium (worth $10k net present value), against the investment returns from taking the 6 months of deferred payments ($14k) and putting it into other investments with an equal 4% return. The writer claims doing the latter gives a better return even when the rate is the same at 4%.

No it's not. That's comparing apples to oranges to grapes.

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 3 2020, 10:31 PM)
Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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Highly inaccurate, there are banks like RHB that are offering increasing of 6 months tenor and exact same monthly repayment. This is achievable on the 7th month onwards the installment will be used to pay outstanding interest first
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Guys, i received penangguhan sms from mbb for my hire purchase. If i dun reply, the auto debit payment will postpone also? Will the penangguhan affect my future loan as i still afford to make the payment currently.
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Guys, i received penangguhan sms from mbb for my hire purchase. If i dun reply, the auto debit payment will postpone also?  Will the penangguhan affect my future loan as i still afford to make the payment currently.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Apr 4 2020, 01:48 PM)
Highly inaccurate, there are banks like RHB that are offering increasing of 6 months tenor and exact same monthly repayment. This is achievable on the 7th month onwards the installment will be used to pay outstanding interest first
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Are you referring to Option 2 (A) : Pay the same monthly repayment, and extend loan tenure ?
Yes, I don't know how on earth Ringgitplus calculated a "Whopping" 21 months loan tenure extension.
My calculation pointing me to approximately 14 months extension under option 2 (A) in the article.

As to your claim that RHB can do 6 months extension only @ exact same monthly instalment with interest prioritization on the 7th month onwards.....No bro, it's not possible.
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Are you referring to Option 2 (A) : Pay the same monthly repayment, and extend loan tenure ?
Yes, I don't know how on earth Ringgitplus calculated a "Whopping" 21 months loan tenure extension.
My calculation pointing me to approximately 14 months extension under option 2 (A) in the article.

As to your claim that RHB can do 6 months extension only @ exact same monthly instalment with interest prioritization on the 7th month onwards.....No bro, it's not possible.
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There is a lot of inaccuracies everywhere we look... Sometimes right formula, but wrong interpretation as well.. guess that's why financial advisors get paid for their service
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 4 2020, 06:39 PM)
Are you referring to Option 2 (A) : Pay the same monthly repayment, and extend loan tenure ?
Yes, I don't know how on earth Ringgitplus calculated a "Whopping" 21 months loan tenure extension.
My calculation pointing me to approximately 14 months extension under option 2 (A) in the article.

As to your claim that RHB can do 6 months extension only @ exact same monthly instalment with interest prioritization on the 7th month onwards.....No bro, it's not possible.
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https://www.rhbgroup.com/covid_retail/index.html

20. What would happen to my loan/financing after the moratorium period?

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?
The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment1 with an additional tenure of 6 months2.

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension2.

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off all outstanding interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid.
2For new loan/financing that are approved/disbursed after 1 April 2020, additional tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing, 10 years for personal loan/financing and 9 years for hire purchase loans/financing.


The above is extracted from RHB's website. Theres also a diagram depicting the same, gone to the branch and was informed the same thing.

So why wouldn't it be true? just curious. Why would the bank give misleading information and make themselves be susceptible to litigation and backlash from the public?


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Hi guys I have a personal loan with RHB due 5/4, I called the customer care it says any loans 1/4 on wards no need to pay for 6 months. I just want to ask, due on 5/4 means the loan is for month of March right? Or it doesnt counted that way, need some guidance on this thanks!
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QUOTE(IAmLejen @ Apr 4 2020, 08:10 PM)
Hi guys I have a personal loan with RHB due 5/4, I called the customer care it says any loans 1/4 on wards no need to pay for 6 months. I just want to ask, due on 5/4 means the loan is for month of March right? Or it doesnt counted that way, need some guidance on this thanks!
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no need to pay, mine same issue and asked before
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no need to pay, mine same issue and asked before
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in RHB Now it still stated 5th April, so just ignore and wait they update the dates?
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Hi All, wondering anyone of you manage to ask bank that if we opt IN for the 6 months MORATORIUM first, but then we have extra cash at some of the months, can we continue paying and reduce the additional deferment interest rate charged to us?

Reason for this is we might not foresee what will happen within 6 months or 1 year, so i think the best if we can get flexibility on the loan repayment while minimizing our risk.

I did not manage to get CIMB customer service so wanted to know if anyone have this info?
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Hi All, wondering anyone of you manage to ask bank that if we opt IN for the 6 months MORATORIUM first, but then we have extra cash at some of the months, can we continue paying and reduce the additional deferment interest rate charged to us?

Reason for this is we might not foresee what will happen within 6 months or 1 year, so i think the best if we can get flexibility on the loan repayment while minimizing our risk.

I did not manage to get CIMB customer service so wanted to know if anyone have this info?
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With or without moratorium, you can always make partial payment to reduce your outstanding loan balance. If yours is not a flexi loan, you need to notify your bank of your intention, otherwise your bank will account it as advance payment.

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https://www.rhbgroup.com/covid_retail/index.html

20.  What would happen to my loan/financing after the moratorium period?

Will I need to pay more interest/profit after the moratorium period is over?
Is there an increase in monthly payments, or longer tenure?
The monthly instalment/payment amount will remain unchanged after the deferment period. However, the monthly instalment/payment will be adjusted should there be any revision of the Bank’s reference rates (i.e Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate) for variable rate loan/financing.

You will continue paying the same monthly instalment/payment1 with an additional tenure of 6 months2.

You may also contact us after the moratorium period if you want to arrange for other suitable payment plans that you can afford such as increased instalment/payment or further tenure extension2.

Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off all outstanding interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid.
2For new loan/financing that are approved/disbursed after 1 April 2020, additional tenure is subject to the maximum loan/financing tenure of 35 years for home financing, 10 years for personal loan/financing and 9 years for hire purchase loans/financing.


The above is extracted from RHB's website. Theres also a diagram depicting the same, gone to the branch and was informed the same thing.

So why wouldn't it be true? just curious. Why would the bank give misleading information and make themselves be susceptible to litigation and backlash from the public?
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Based on RHB illustration
Outstanding balance RM280,585.00 @ 4.6% p.a.
Balance tenure 360 months @ RM1,439/mth.

My calculation based on payment as usual @ RMRM1,439 after the moratorium, the tenure will be extended to approximately 378 months.

Please check with RHB if there is any flaw in my calculation and please correct me if I'm wrong.





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QUOTE(IAmLejen @ Apr 4 2020, 08:18 PM)
in RHB Now it still stated 5th April, so just ignore and wait they update the dates?
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just ignore, asked before
QUOTE(oro102 @ Apr 4 2020, 08:26 PM)
Oh shit, i just paid today. My RHB loan due date is 4/4. So can I still opt in?
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no problem, still entitle for moratorium of 5 months
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Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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After reading this again, i hope my understanding on the article is correct.

For me, i will opt IN for 6 months deferment with Option 1: Pay the accrued interest in one lump sum after end of 6 deferment period.

Reason is:

1) As mention in the article, eventhough monthly interest is still running, it will not be compounded. So meaning there is no harm that i save up the 6 month cash with me, and have flexibility to use the cash in case of emergency. (example my monthly fixed loan payment = RM4k, in 6 months i will have RM24k extra cash).

2) If everything are well, I will pay the loan in lumpsum after 6 months (total RM24k). By this method, i will not incur any additional cost or interest on my loan.


So in my opinion, this would be the best way for people that are financially stable but still wants to have a certain flexibility on the loan payment since we do not know what will happen in 6 months time. We might have a job now but who knows after that.

Any sifu please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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QUOTE(bubble-tea @ Apr 4 2020, 10:19 PM)
After reading this again, i hope my understanding on the article is correct.

For me, i will opt IN for 6 months deferment with Option 1: Pay the accrued interest in one lump sum after end of 6 deferment period.

Reason is:

1) As mention in the article, eventhough monthly interest is still running, it will not be compounded. So meaning there is no harm that i save up the 6 month cash with me, and have flexibility to use the cash in case of emergency.  (example my monthly fixed loan payment = RM4k, in 6 months i will have RM24k extra cash).

2) If everything are well, I will pay the loan in lumpsum after 6 months (total RM24k). By this method, i will not incur any additional cost or interest on my loan.
So in my opinion, this would be the best way for people that are financially stable but still wants to have a certain flexibility on the loan payment since we do not know what will happen in 6 months time. We might have a job now but who knows after that.

Any sifu please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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Yes. You can even consider it an extended loan (same as what you get when you refinance to cash out money locked in your property), so there is no rush in paying it back. It's only at a 4% rate and generous repayment terms.
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QUOTE(bubble-tea @ Apr 4 2020, 10:19 PM)
After reading this again, i hope my understanding on the article is correct.

For me, i will opt IN for 6 months deferment with Option 1: Pay the accrued interest in one lump sum after end of 6 deferment period.

Reason is:

1) As mention in the article, eventhough monthly interest is still running, it will not be compounded. So meaning there is no harm that i save up the 6 month cash with me, and have flexibility to use the cash in case of emergency.  (example my monthly fixed loan payment = RM4k, in 6 months i will have RM24k extra cash).

2) If everything are well, I will pay the loan in lumpsum after 6 months (total RM24k). By this method, i will not incur any additional cost or interest on my loan.
So in my opinion, this would be the best way for people that are financially stable but still wants to have a certain flexibility on the loan payment since we do not know what will happen in 6 months time. We might have a job now but who knows after that.

Any sifu please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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I think you are making a very wise decision.
Over 10 million Americans applied for unemployment benefits in March. Unprecedented since 1929 big recession. Malaysia is not immune from the current crisis

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QUOTE(bubble-tea @ Apr 4 2020, 10:19 PM)
After reading this again, i hope my understanding on the article is correct.

For me, i will opt IN for 6 months deferment with Option 1: Pay the accrued interest in one lump sum after end of 6 deferment period.

Reason is:

1) As mention in the article, eventhough monthly interest is still running, it will not be compounded. So meaning there is no harm that i save up the 6 month cash with me, and have flexibility to use the cash in case of emergency.  (example my monthly fixed loan payment = RM4k, in 6 months i will have RM24k extra cash).

2) If everything are well, I will pay the loan in lumpsum after 6 months (total RM24k). By this method, i will not incur any additional cost or interest on my loan.
So in my opinion, this would be the best way for people that are financially stable but still wants to have a certain flexibility on the loan payment since we do not know what will happen in 6 months time. We might have a job now but who knows after that.

Any sifu please correct me if my understanding is wrong.
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Sorry bro, even though monthly interest is not compounded, the normal interest is still accumulated right? So by not paying for the six months, you are actually accumulating full interest over that six months. Compared to if you continue paying for six months, your principal and interest is reduced.

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Sorry bro, even though monthly interest is not compounded, the normal interest is still accumulated right? So by not paying for the six months, you are actually accumulating full interest over that six months. Compared to if you continue paying for six months, your principal and interest is reduced.
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This is true. But he is correct too.

if he put the full lump sum back into the loan later on after moratorium, everything goes back to square one.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 4 2020, 09:33 PM)
With or without moratorium, you can always make partial payment to reduce your outstanding loan balance. If yours is not a flexi loan, you need to notify your bank of your intention, otherwise your bank will account it as advance payment.
Based on RHB illustration
Outstanding balance RM280,585.00 @ 4.6% p.a.
Balance tenure 360 months @ RM1,439/mth.

My calculation based on payment as usual @ RMRM1,439 after the moratorium, the tenure will be extended to approximately 378 months.

Please check with RHB if there is any flaw in my calculation and please correct me if I'm wrong.
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I finally gotten through RHB CS line. What they told me is exactly the same with what the RHB branch people said...which is also consistent with their publishing in their FAQ.

They reassured that assuming OPR doesn't move and IR remains the same, your monthly repayment is the same and will not increase. Additional 6 months tenor.
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QUOTE(victorian @ Apr 4 2020, 11:17 PM)
Sorry bro, even though monthly interest is not compounded, the normal interest is still accumulated right? So by not paying for the six months, you are actually accumulating full interest over that six months. Compared to if you continue paying for six months, your principal and interest is reduced.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 4 2020, 11:48 PM)
This is true. But he is correct too.

if he put the full lump sum back into the loan later on after moratorium, everything goes back to square one.
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Yes he is right, if he does that he will be pari-passu and not inferior to the initial position
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QUOTE(diversity @ Apr 4 2020, 11:48 PM)
I finally gotten through RHB CS line. What they told me is exactly the same with what the RHB branch people said...which is also consistent with their publishing in their FAQ.

They reassured that assuming OPR doesn't move and IR remains the same, your monthly repayment is the same and will not increase. Additional 6 months tenor.
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This is only possible if RHB does not impose additional interests for month 7-12, which would be incredibly generous, since they are imposing interest even from month 1-6.

If your monthly repayment is 2k a month and out of that your nterest charges are 1.5k a month, then you accumulate 9k of interest over month 1-6.

If RHB wants you to pay off all interest in month 7-12, leaving your principal untouched, then it can only mean that you need to pay 9k of accrued interest plus 9k more in interest charged during month 7-12. That's 3k per month until all accrued interest is paid off, and then you can go back to your original loan schedule.. same amount, same tenure.

Note: above are rough calculations only to explain the idea.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 4 2020, 11:48 PM)
This is true. But he is correct too.

if he put the full lump sum back into the loan later on after moratorium, everything goes back to square one.
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Umm sorry but back to square one only starting from the seventh months onward right ? There will be a little bit of reducing interest missed during the first six months?

Consider this:

Case 1: continue paying, principal reduced hence interest is reduced every month? At the end of six months, remaining loan is 100k

Case 2: defer paying, principal is not reduced hence full interest is charged every month. At the end of six months, dump lump sum until the loan is 100k

Will the total interest paid over the loan tenure be the same for the two cases?
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QUOTE(victorian @ Apr 5 2020, 12:07 AM)
Umm sorry but back to square one only starting from the seventh months onward right ? There will be a little bit of reducing interest missed during the first six months?

Consider this:

Case 1: continue paying, principal reduced hence interest is reduced every month? At the end of six months, remaining loan is 100k

Case 2: defer paying, principal is not reduced hence full interest is charged every month. At the end of six months, dump lump sum until the loan is 100k

Will the total interest paid over the loan tenure be the same for the two cases?
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The reducing interest is more or less mitigated by the non compounded nature of the moratorium.

Virtually back to square one, mi amigo.
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QUOTE(diversity @ Apr 4 2020, 11:48 PM)
I finally gotten through RHB CS line. What they told me is exactly the same with what the RHB branch people said...which is also consistent with their publishing in their FAQ.

They reassured that assuming OPR doesn't move and IR remains the same, your monthly repayment is the same and will not increase. Additional 6 months tenor.
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This is only possible if the entire 6 months moratorium period is interest free. Just a STOP button and RESUME back after 6 months.
Which i highly doubt is correct as no other banks giving interest free stuff. Nothing is free. Bank will still earn interest during this period.
The correct statement should be minimum 6 months or at least 6 months depending on loan amount, tenure left, etc.

AmBank FAQ seems to be written out better: https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/covid-19-faq

Will my instalment amount remain the same after the deferment period?
Yes, unless there is a change in the Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate when the instalment payment commences after the deferment period.

Is my loan/financing maturity date going to be affected?
Yes, because when the instalment payment commences after the deferment period, the instalment amount is expected to remain the same (unless there is a change in the Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate). This necessitates extending your loan/financing maturity date by at least 6 months.

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QUOTE(diversity @ Apr 4 2020, 11:48 PM)
I finally gotten through RHB CS line. What they told me is exactly the same with what the RHB branch people said...which is also consistent with their publishing in their FAQ.

They reassured that assuming OPR doesn't move and IR remains the same, your monthly repayment is the same and will not increase. Additional 6 months tenor.
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I can only say you are very fortunate to have such generous bank.

Again, based on RHB's illustration.
Outstanding balance RM280,585.00 @ 4.6% p.a.
Balance tenure 360 months @ RM1,439/mth.

If your loan ending date extend 6 months (i.e 366 months), after add on moratorium accrued interest of 6453.48, your monthly instalment has to be adjusted upward to RM1,460.31/mth
Mathematics calculation shows no evidence that you can pay as usual @ RM1,439/mth and loan ending date at 360 + 6 months.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 5 2020, 12:06 AM)
This is only possible if RHB does not impose additional interests for month 7-12, which would be incredibly generous, since they are imposing interest even from month 1-6.

If your monthly repayment is 2k a month and out of that your nterest charges are 1.5k a month, then you accumulate 9k of interest over month 1-6.

If RHB wants you to pay off all interest in month 7-12, leaving your principal untouched, then it can only mean that you need to pay 9k of accrued interest plus 9k more in interest charged during month 7-12. That's 3k per month until all accrued interest is paid off, and then you can go back to your original loan schedule.. same amount, same tenure.

Note: above are rough calculations only to explain the idea.
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The CS person didn't specifically said that the outstanding interest for the 6 months has to be repaid within 7-12 months...this is a gray area and they only told me the apportionment between interest/principal will be revised to accommodate this. Called again this morning, and RHB still reassured me its merely 6 months extension of tenor.

I recorded the call, saved the PDF copy of the FAQ and T&Cs etc for future reference
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I finally gotten through RHB CS line. What they told me is exactly the same with what the RHB branch people said...which is also consistent with their publishing in their FAQ.

They reassured that assuming OPR doesn't move and IR remains the same, your monthly repayment is the same and will not increase. Additional 6 months tenor.
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 5 2020, 03:01 AM)
This is only possible if the entire 6 months moratorium period is interest free. Just a STOP button and RESUME back after 6 months.
Which i highly doubt is correct as no other banks giving interest free stuff. Nothing is free. Bank will still earn interest during this period.
The correct statement should be minimum 6 months or at least 6 months depending on loan amount, tenure left, etc.

AmBank FAQ seems to be written out better: https://www.ambank.com.my/eng/covid-19-faq

Will my instalment amount remain the same after the deferment period?
Yes, unless there is a change in the Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate when the instalment payment commences after the deferment period.

Is my loan/financing maturity date going to be affected?
Yes, because when the instalment payment commences after the deferment period, the instalment amount is expected to remain the same (unless there is a change in the Base Rate/Base Lending Rate/Base Financing Rate). This necessitates extending your loan/financing maturity date by at least 6 months.
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do take note there is difference between mortgage loan (ie reducing pricipal and interest) vs term loan (eg car loan). the mechanism is different.

make the officer and you are talking about the same type of loan.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 31 2020, 06:45 PM)
Seems like there maybe people who thinks they knows the differents, but are just not sure, thus they does not want to tell so as to prevent being slammed for being wrong.
Lagi worst are those who knows but does not want to help out to clarify.
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all information available on this thread. you can bring the horse to the river but if they don't wanna drink, nothing can be done. cannot expect spoon feeding or breast feeding all the time.

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The CS person didn't specifically said that the outstanding interest for the 6 months has to be repaid within 7-12 months...this is a gray area and they only told me the apportionment between interest/principal will be revised to accommodate this. Called again this morning, and RHB still reassured me its merely 6 months extension of tenor.

I recorded the call, saved the PDF copy of the FAQ and T&Cs etc for future reference
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I was quoting your quote from RHB ...

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Applicable to Home Financing, Property Financing and ASB Financing:
1The monthly instalment/payments will first be allocated to pay off all outstanding interest/profit. Payment will only be subsequently allocated to reduce the principal balance once all outstanding interest/profit has been paid.

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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 10:23 AM)
all information available on this thread. you can bring the horse to the river but if they don't wanna drink, nothing can be done. cannot expect spoon feeding or breast feeding all the time.
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yes, that is generally true for some queries,
but I think for some queries,
that is a very good excuse for those
who does not know the answers
who do not know how to help
who does not want to help
who know that their replies may not be helpful,
etc,

reading the whole thread may not provide answers to EACH and every queries that may surface, for some of the queries are so possibly unique or could happens to a particular person's scenario.

and those that posted the answers may also could have been replying based on his experience from a particular bank and that may not apply to others
this is more compilated by the possibility of different loan types so are differences between shariah and non shariah type too.


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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 10:55 AM)
yes, that is generally true for some queries,
but I think for some queries,
that is a very good excuse for those
who does not know the answers
who do not know how to help
who does not want to help
who know that their replies may not be helpful,
etc,

reading the whole thread may not provide answers to EACH and every queries that may surface, for some of the queries are so possibly unique or could happens to a particular person's scenario.

and those that posted the answers may also could have been replying based on his experience from a particular bank and that may not apply to others
this is more compilated by the possibility of different loan types so are differences between shariah and non shariah type too.
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I'm not so sure why are you so triggered at this early morning over those matters.
Every bank has its own set of implementation since BNM directive doesn't restrict the banks on how to implement as in hard rules to follow in B&W.
As you also mentioned, there're so many credit facilities. Even conventional bank offers full flexi, semi-flexi and non-flexi principal reduction type of housing loans.
To summarize everything into a single page needs a PhD in Finance.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 10:55 AM)
yes, that is generally true for some queries,
but I think for some queries,
that is a very good excuse for those
who does not know the answers
who do not know how to help
who does not want to help
who know that their replies may not be helpful,
etc,

reading the whole thread may not provide answers to EACH and every queries that may surface, for some of the queries are so possibly unique or could happens to a particular person's scenario.

and those that posted the answers may also could have been replying based on his experience from a particular bank and that may not apply to others
this is more compilated by the possibility of different loan types so are differences between shariah and non shariah type too.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 5 2020, 10:59 AM)
I'm not so sure why are you so triggered at this early morning over those matters.
Every bank has its own set of implementation since BNM directive doesn't restrict the banks on how to implement as in hard rules to follow in B&W.
As you also mentioned, there're so many credit facilities. Even conventional bank offers full flexi, semi-flexi and non-flexi principal reduction type of housing loans.
To summarize everything into a single page needs a PhD in Finance.
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agreed, most of the queries are due to misunderstanding of the moratorium concept.

many gave their views, but since this is a public forum, end users got to think for themselves and cross check what is right and what is wrong, though if one follows the thread, will have a clear answer by now.
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So far my BSN after i email to them on opting out, there was no confirmation yet on the next deduction of the monthly mortgage installment.

For my Maybank, so far looks ok.. BSN still using quite a lousy online system because the payment which I made from MyBSN online from Savings to the Mortgage still not reflected in my MyBSN Financing Account yet..

Therefore, I think BSN is the lousiest system I believe as compared to the other banks..
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:16 AM)
agreed, most of the queries are due to misunderstanding of the moratorium concept.

many gave their views, but since this is a public forum, end users got to think for themselves and cross check what is right and what is wrong, though if one follows the thread, will have a clear answer by now.
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on that, if one follows the thread, will have a clear answer by now.
he/she will either get the answers or be more confused or be more doubtful.
the more relevent one that could provide them with the peace of mind is as per below post.


QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 25 2020, 12:45 PM)
Malaysian Banks And Local Institutions Offer Financial Assistance For Customers Affected By Covid-19...
inside has a list of contact of respective banks....
contact them to find out more about your loan..
https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/bank-news/m...oronavirus.html
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 11:23 AM)
on that (in blue),
will either get the answers or be more confused or be more doubtful.
the more relevent one that could provide them with the peace of mind is as per below post.
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yeah, as i said, answer already in the thread. should be clear by now lol biggrin.gif
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yeah, as i said, answer already in the thread. should be clear by now lol biggrin.gif
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yes, BUT if they did NOT ask and post here,
they could NOT have gotten this reply which is very informative too.

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 10:04 AM)
do take note there is difference between mortgage loan (ie reducing pricipal and interest) vs term loan (eg car loan). the mechanism is different.

make sure the officer and you are talking about the same type of loan.
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this is a very new info, which was not in this thread earlier,...thus, if those that read this thread earlier, do you think they would have gotten this tips?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 11:23 AM)
on that, if one follows the thread, will have a clear answer by now.
he/she will either get the answers or be more confused or be more doubtful.
the more relevent one that could provide them with the peace of mind is as per below post.
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Linking to RP might confuse them more lol.. especially this old version before BNM's automatic moratorium. Some content still outdated. Plus their calculations also misleading. I hate it when half baked financial wannabes use the right formula and apply the wrong understanding to justify their recommendations.


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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 11:28 AM)
yes, BUT if they did NOT ask and post here,
they could NOT have gotten this reply which is very informative too.
this is a very new info, which was not in this thread earlier,...thus, if those that read this thread earlier, do you think they would have gotten this tips?
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nobody stopping anybody from asking. but it's clear that many do not understand the difference. that is a fact.

their loan is not mine nor yours. it's better not to say anything informative than giving wrong information.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 5 2020, 11:28 AM)
Linking to RP might confuse them more lol.. especially this old version before BNM's automatic moratorium. Some content still outdated. Plus their calculations also misleading. I hate it when half baked financial wannabes use the right formula and apply the wrong understanding to justify their recommendations.
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hmm.gif If those that had their queires asked and replied by the CS of their respective banks, is it recommended for them to ask again?

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 3 2020, 10:31 PM)
Ringgit Plus comes out with a guide whether to take or not to take the deferment offer.

Malaysia Bank Moratorium: Why You Should Opt For The 6-Month Deferment For ALL Loans

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...sHy5bCveTADVnlg

It's a long article with 3 sections covering different types of credit facility. Happy reading!
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 5 2020, 11:28 AM)
Linking to RP might confuse them more lol.. especially this old version before BNM's automatic moratorium. Some content still outdated. Plus their calculations also misleading. I hate it when half baked financial wannabes use the right formula and apply the wrong understanding to justify their recommendations.
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you are right, he tagged the wrong post. he indeed confused them now. haha
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yes, BUT if they did NOT ask and post here,
they could NOT have gotten this reply which is very informative too.
this is a very new info, which was not in this thread earlier,...thus, if those that read this thread earlier, do you think they would have gotten this tips?
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See below

QUOTE(Human Nature @ Mar 27 2020, 12:41 PM)
There is no interest accrued for HP. Just pay the installments as per normal after the 6 months period.
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hmm.gif If those that had their queires asked and replied by the CS of their respective banks, is it recommended for them to ask again?
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why not? from this thread seems like some CS not very sure also. best if can double confirm with own effort whether by asking or going through thread. but ultimately responsibility lies upon themselves.

always keep yourself updated with the latest info with your own effort. not by spoon feeding or breast feeding.

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at first you mentioned,...

QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 10:23 AM)
all information available on this thread. you can bring the horse to the river but if they don't wanna drink, nothing can be done. cannot expect spoon feeding or breast feeding all the time.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:24 AM)
yeah, as i said, answer already in the thread. should be clear by now lol biggrin.gif
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then,
QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:33 AM)
you are right, he tagged the wrong post. he indeed confused them now. haha
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so some of the posting in this thread is confusing too?


QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:35 AM)
why not? from this thread seems like some CS not very sure also. best if can double confirm with own effort whether by asking or going through thread. but ultimately responsibility lies upon themselves.

always keep yourself updated with the latest info with your own effort. not by spoon feeding or breast feeding.
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if CS is NOT sure, then "always keep yourself updated with the latest info" from where? checking on this forum by just reading without querying?

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General CS may not even have the answer for you since they're not loan specialist.

The best is you talk to your bank officer from the loan department.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 10:55 AM)
yes, that is generally true for some queries,
but I think for some queries,
that is a very good excuse for those
who does not know the answers
who do not know how to help
who does not want to help
who know that their replies may not be helpful,
etc,
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yes. individuals are expected to make judgement based on their interpretation since ultimately the loan is theirs.

and yes, i read the LATEST ringgitplus post which was shared here on 3rd April. you being a senior member and after giving your comments above, thought u would not confuse ppl. haha. so i overlooked.


QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 11:40 AM)
at first you mentioned,...
then,

so some of the posting in this thread is confusing too?
if CS is NOT sure, then from where? checking on this forum?
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 5 2020, 11:40 AM)
General CS may not even have the answer for you since they're not loan specialist.

The best is you talk to your bank officer from the loan department.
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correct. by your own effort since the loan is urs.
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you are right, he tagged the wrong post. he indeed confused them now. haha
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And the one you retagged is the one I'm referring to with the misleading recommendations.

Option 1, 2a, 2b and 3 are all different variations of early principal reduction vs. one that maintains the monthly payment amount. Obviously all early payments reduce interest.

The one that completely removes all interest is if you paid the entire loan now. Mathematically correct, but defeats the purpose of the loan.

What's worse, the writer takes the interest saved from a early principal reduction and claims it's interest saved from putting the money into a separate investment at 4%. Complete horseshit advice.
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And the one you retagged is the one I'm referring to with the misleading recommendations.

Option 1, 2a, 2b and 3 are all different variations of early principal reduction vs. one that maintains the monthly payment amount. Obviously all early payments reduce interest.

The one that completely removes all interest is if you paid the entire loan now. Mathematically correct, but defeats the purpose of the loan.

What's worse, the writer takes the interest saved from a early principal reduction and claims it's interest saved from putting the money into a separate investment at 4%. Complete horseshit advice.
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i think depends how your interpret the article. i think it's quite comprehensive. options given but ultimately up to loan takers to decide what is best for them.
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ultimately, the loan belongs to each individual. if they made the decision after fully understanding it then that's good. otherwise, if made decision with misconception, then it's their loss for not fully understanding the moratorium. many give advice and opinion, but always remember the one with the loan is you, not them.
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I move it here,

So based on my understanding in the privilege threads, im right isnt it? Coz,

First, my interest accrued rate is lower than my possible rate of return.

Second, i get the ‘cash flows’ from these 6 months and possible invest it in a liquid moderate return investment/account - e.g SCB PSA
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yes. individuals are expected to make judgement based on their interpretation since ultimately the loan is theirs.

and yes, i read the LATEST ringgitplus post which was shared here on 3rd April. you being a senior member and after giving your comments above, thought u would not confuse ppl. haha. so i overlooked.
correct. by your own effort since the loan is urs.
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contact their own banks by themselves to seek answers and replies to clear their mind or queries and to have peaceful sleeps...
rather than try to get the "ONLY" answer from here, as the things posted here may have been obsolete or applicable to "one" particular scenario


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contact their own banks by themselves to seek answers and replies to clear their mind or queries and to have peaceful sleeps...
rather than try to get the "ONLY" answer from here, as the things posted here may have been obsolete or applicable to "one" particular scenario
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correct. always double check the information in a public forum. everybody can blow water, but the one taking loan is themselves not us.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:54 AM)
i think depends how your interpret the article. i think it's quite comprehensive. options given but ultimately up to loan takers to decide what is best for them.
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Hmm can't comment about your interpretation then. To each their own as they say.

I would say if your loan was 4% , and there was an FD available at 4%... then if you don't have cash flow problems just keep paying off your loan, and opt out of the moratorium... do not follow RP advice to take the moratorium, and then put the 6 months of deferred payments into the FD and then expect to get RM22k more money.

The RM22k comes from early principal reduction, not from the FD. The FD was irrelevant.

Many RP readers will not understand this because even the RP writer confused himself when he was crunching too many numbers.
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correct. always double check the information in a public forum. everybody can blow water, but the one taking loan is themselves not us.
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 5 2020, 12:05 PM)
Hmm can't comment about your interpretation then. To each their own as they say.

I would say if your loan was 4% , and there was an FD available at 4%... then if you don't have cash flow problems just keep paying off your loan, and opt out of the moratorium... do not follow RP advice to take the moratorium, and then put the 6 months of deferred payments into the FD and then expect to get RM22k more money.

The RM22k comes from early principal reduction, not from the FD. The FD was irrelevant.

Many RP readers will not understand this because even the RP writer confused himself when he was crunching too many numbers.
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yup, you are right. always double check the information. some of the points are valid though calculations may be dodgy.
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all information available on this thread. you can bring the horse to the river but if they don't wanna drink, nothing can be done. cannot expect spoon feeding or breast feeding all the time.
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if those want to follow the above.....do take notes of these below too...

QUOTE(yklooi @ Apr 5 2020, 11:56 AM)
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 11:58 AM)
correct. always double check the information in a public forum. everybody can blow water, but the one taking loan is themselves not us.
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QUOTE(!@#$%^ @ Apr 5 2020, 01:05 PM)
yup, you are right. always double check the information. some of the points are valid though calculations may be dodgy.
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yup basic 101 in public forum. i've seen ppl lose half their investment in stocks because they listen to somebody blow water.
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Agreed. Always ask your own bank for the best advice. Here we can only help by trying to explain but sometimes even our explanations are understood in the wrong way.

Now I understand why the experts keep their advice to a minimum, or only to those who pay good money for it.
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hi guys, i have opted out from the moratorium by replying a sms from RHB.

However, upon checking my savings account today (which is linked to autodebit every month for loan account), the amount has not being deducted yet.

Does this mean my opt out not yet received by RHB loan department??
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I’m currently using Cimb bank. Base on my understanding, if I opt in the moratorium, bank will charge the 6 month interest and put into principal. At the same time, the tenure will increase by additional 6 months.

So not only my principal is higher, but the additional 6 months tenure will results in rm10k+ loss to interest. Am I correct?
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Apr 6 2020, 06:34 PM)
I’m currently using Cimb bank. Base on my understanding, if I opt in the moratorium, bank will charge the 6 month interest and put into principal. At the same time, the tenure will increase by additional 6 months.

So not only my principal is higher, but the additional 6 months tenure will results in rm10k+ loss to interest. Am I correct?
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No, wrong.
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finally, CIMB's FAQs are up

COVID-19 RELIEF MEASURES AND SUPPORT
FAQ (ENG) Updated 1 Apr 2020 | FAQ (BM) Updated 1 Apr 2020
T&C (ENG) Updated 3 Apr 2020 | T&C (BM) Updated 3 Apr 2020

Aligned with BNM’s announcement, effective 1st April 2020 CIMB will provide a 6-month automatic moratorium for our individual customers on all types of financing payment except for credit cards as long as the Loan/Financings are:

- Not more than 90 days past due as at 1st April 2020
- In Ringgit Malaysia denomination

Important note:
To Opt Out from this programme, send an SMS request to 62666 by 7 April 2020 11.59PM as per below, for each of your loans/financing accounts:

OPTOUT<space>Last 4 Digits NRIC/Passport number<space>Loan/Financing Account Number

1st response: RM0.00 CIMB: TQ, we are processing your opt-out reply & will update you soon. Don't forget to send SMS request to opt-out for other financing accts

[Updated] 1 Apr 2020
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Apr 6 2020, 06:34 PM)
I’m currently using Cimb bank. Base on my understanding, if I opt in the moratorium, bank will charge the 6 month interest and put into principal. At the same time, the tenure will increase by additional 6 months.

So not only my principal is higher, but the additional 6 months tenure will results in rm10k+ loss to interest. Am I correct?
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how and where did you get that idea?

try read the FAQs and T&Cs from CIMB. else, call bank and ask.

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Apr 6 2020, 08:35 PM)
how and where did you get that idea?

try read the FAQs and T&Cs from CIMB. else, call bank and ask.
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If you read the terms and condition document, it stated housing loan will add 6 months tenure, and cannot bullet payment.

As for the acrued 6 month interest during moratorium, it should be park under principal. Else where can it park at?
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If you read the terms and condition document, it stated housing loan will add 6 months tenure, and cannot bullet payment.

As for the acrued 6 month interest during moratorium, it should be park under principal. Else where can it park at?
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Once the accrued interest/profit rate is cleared, your monthly instalment will revert to paying principal and interest/profit. //



still, get CIMB to clarify your question.
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// Starting 1 October 2020, your monthly instalment will be allocated to clear the accrued 6-month moratorium interest/profit.

Once the accrued interest/profit rate is cleared, your monthly instalment will revert to paying principal and interest/profit. //

still, get CIMB to clarify your question.
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Attached is the link for your reference.

https://www.cimb.com.my/content/dam/cimb/pe...cts-tnc-eng.pdf

Under item no 22, clearly stated extension of 6 months tenure. For other local bank also same except for Maybank, where it allows you to increase the monthly installment amount or extend loan tenure.
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Apr 6 2020, 10:20 PM)
Attached is the link for your reference.

https://www.cimb.com.my/content/dam/cimb/pe...cts-tnc-eng.pdf

Under item no 22, clearly stated extension of 6 months tenure. For other local bank also same except for Maybank, where it allows you to increase the monthly installment amount or extend loan tenure.
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22. After the Moratorium Period, the tenure and monthly instalment for the Participating Product(s) may change, depending on the current conduct of account and is as set out in the table below:

Read the bold part above again.
In laymen words, your tenure will be extended maximum 6 months only and your monthly instalment will be revised upward.

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I’m currently using Cimb bank. Base on my understanding, if I opt in the moratorium, bank will charge the 6 month interest and put into principal. At the same time, the tenure will increase by additional 6 months.

So not only my principal is higher, but the additional 6 months tenure will results in rm10k+ loss to interest. Am I correct?
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Where this 10k came from ?
No, no losses to you whatsoever. Your effective rate remain the same before and after.
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Ringgit plus did some calculation. If the 6 months moratorium interest add to the principal with 6 months loan tenure extension, the additional interest charged will be close to RM10k.

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Attached is the link for your reference.

https://www.cimb.com.my/content/dam/cimb/pe...cts-tnc-eng.pdf

Under item no 22, clearly stated extension of 6 months tenure. For other local bank also same except for Maybank, where it allows you to increase the monthly installment amount or extend loan tenure.
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i'm aware of the faq and t&c from cimb, which i already quoted above.


there are 2 elements you were asking: extension of loan period i.e. 6 months and the treatment of interest/profit.

you answered the extension portion, which is extended to 6 months. that's given.


how does the treatment of interest/profit works from 1 Oct onwards?

from t&c, it stated "monthly installment may change". my interpretation is amount will be revised upward to cover monthly installment + monthly interest + accrued interest (maybe spread across x % or y RM) --- my guess is cimb will elaborate further when nearing the end of moratorium. they'll take these few months to work out the calculation (eg. impact to the bank, impact to your loan, etc)

from faq, "monthly instalment will be allocated to clear the accrued 6-month moratorium interest/profit." my interpretation is coincide with the T&C clause 22 above.

and then from faq, "Once the accrued interest/profit rate is cleared, your monthly instalment will revert to paying principal and interest/profit.", my interpretation is the same as above. once your accrued interest/profit is cleared, installment amount is revised back to pre-moratorium amount (assuming no change to blr/br/etc).


why are you comparing with other banks and ringgitplus? each bank operates/manage differently. just because you like/understand how the other bank works, doesnt mean it can apply to your cimb loan.

the only proper answer anyone can give you is CIMB themselves.


also, do you really really need to takeup the moratorium? else, just opt-up and continue serving the loan. no headache or whatsoever.

if really need to take this, then CALL CIMB for explanation.
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https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...-all-loans.html

Ringgit plus did some calculation. If the 6 months moratorium interest add to the principal with 6 months loan tenure extension, the additional interest charged will be close to RM10k.
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Just to confirm, for Hire Purchases the loan is pushed back by 6 months with no additional interest charges whatsoever. But after the moratorium ends at month 6, does it mean I pay 6 months worth of HP payment at month 7 OR the loan tenure is pushed back by 6 months and on month 7 I pay the regular monthly payment until the end of the extended loan tenure?
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Just to confirm, for Hire Purchases the loan is pushed back by 6 months with no additional interest charges whatsoever. But after the moratorium ends at month 6, does it mean I pay 6 months worth of HP payment at month 7 OR the loan tenure is pushed back by 6 months and on month 7 I pay the regular monthly payment until the end of the extended loan tenure?
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Just to confirm, for Hire Purchases the loan is pushed back by 6 months with no additional interest charges whatsoever. But after the moratorium ends at month 6, does it mean I pay 6 months worth of HP payment at month 7 OR the loan tenure is pushed back by 6 months and on month 7 I pay the regular monthly payment until the end of the extended loan tenure?
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the loan tenure is pushed back by 6 months and on month 7 I pay the regular monthly payment until the end of the extended loan tenure

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Good effort.

Basically shows how to apply the calculations correctly based on available options made available by different banks. As mentioned before, anyone can use a calculator to get the right results, but still apply the wrong understanding.

Some will look at that RM33k in the future after 30 years+ and feel like it's a lot more than the RM10k today. But the truth is they are actually the same. Those with the means of making more than 4% return will be happy to pay only rm33k in the future. Those who only know FD at 3% might be better off settling the RM10k debt now.
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has anyone here tried opting out at first, but later on decided to opt in to the moratorium?
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Anyone has home loan with RHB? I did not opt out from moratorium but somehow the button "pay now" is visible as usual payment cycle. Looks like still can pay.

Personally I'm on dilemma now to continue with moratorium or opt out. Thinking of opt out because after doing some calculation, I should continue to pay as I have no issues with financial for the next 6 months.

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Question: is the payment plan delay for 6 month.
Eg: Suppose to end Jan 2040, coz opt in this then end at June 2040

Or, I need to pay what i did not pay for the 6 months (Apr-Spt) at the end of 6 months (October)? means on October I need to pay 6 months of installment interest incurr during this 6 months?

Looking for clarification here
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Question: is the payment plan delay for 6 month.
Eg: Suppose to end Jan 2040, coz opt in this then end at June 2040

Or, I need to pay what i did not pay for the 6 months (Apr-Spt) at the end of 6 months (October)? means on October I need to pay 6 months of installment  interest incurr during this 6 months?

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First of all, what credit facility? Home loan? Hire purchase? Term loan?
Second of all, which bank? Every bank practises differently.

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First of all, what credit facility? Home loan? Hire purchase? Term loan?
Second of all, which bank? Every bank practises differently.

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Islamic ASB loan with CIMB and HLB
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I am actually opt-in for loan moratorium. Today received this letter dated 31 Mar which before moratorium officially start.

Anybody received such letter from PBB? I don't understand what the reinstatement is about.
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It's not related. Just an offer for you to take out another loan with PBB and make them rich another time... and if you are actually looking for a loan, then could be useful for you too...
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Hi sifu, based on https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...-all-loans.html , if I have an Islamic housing loan from Maybank, I should take the deferment? Any downside compared to if I keep paying for this 6 months?
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Hi sifu, based on https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/loans/malay...-all-loans.html , if I have an Islamic housing loan from Maybank, I should take the deferment? Any downside compared to if I keep paying for this 6 months?
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Public Bank (PB) Hire Purchase & AITAB Hire Purchase-i Moratorium
(New updates pursuant to Bank Negara Malaysia’s announcement on 30 April 2020)

To safeguard the interests of all Hire Purchase (“HP”) and AITAB Hire Purchase-i (AITAB HP-i) customers, all customers who wish to take up the HP Moratorium are required to submit their application TO OPT-IN under this new process.

Public Bank HP customers and Public Islamic Bank AITAB HP-i customers who wish TO OPT-IN must complete and confirm your acceptance to the HP Moratorium terms* not later than 28 May 2020.

*HP Moratorium terms would include the following:
1. The prevailing Annual Percentage Rate (APR) as stated in the existing HP Agreement/AITAB HP-i Agreement will be charged on the deferred instalments.
2. The financing tenure/maturity date will be consequentially deferred corresponding to the period of moratorium granted.

For further details, please refer to Frequently Ask Questions (FAQs): https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Announcements/h...ovid19-faq.aspx

CLICK HERE (https://www.pbebank.com/forms/form-hp-opt-in.aspx) to access the Consent Form. Please complete and submit the Consent Form not later than 28 May 2020

NO ACTION is required from customers who do not wish to take up the HP Moratorium. You are required to resume the normal HP/AITAB HP-i instalment payments.

Please call our HP Moratorium hunting lines from Monday to Thursday (8.45 a.m. to 5.45 p.m.) and on Friday (8.45 a.m. to 4.45 p.m.) should you require further assistance.

For HP Account
1. 03-21767701
2. 03-21767702
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For AITAB HP-i Account
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- 30 April 2020
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Anybody received such letter from PBB? I don't understand what the reinstatement is about.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 3 2020, 03:58 AM)
I received a letter from PBB offering a Reinstatement Loan Facility at attractive terms.
Any bros here familiar with what this is ? Is it a top-up loan based on the house loan ?
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same as above?
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Here's Hong Leong Bank
https://www.hlb.com.my/en/personal-banking/...ium-update.html

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How to calculate in order to get the Annual Percentage Rate ?

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Here's Hong Leong Bank
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How to calculate in order to get the Annual Percentage Rate ?
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ May 3 2020, 07:33 PM)
thanks....
But based on numbers from HLB, it should only be 4.18% APR instead of 4.5%
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What about home loan? How does it work? Can anyone advise me.
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But based on numbers from HLB, it should only be 4.18% APR instead of 4.5%
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Refer to your contract, it’s already stated
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After looking thru.... APR is stated in the Loan AGREEMENT.
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Public Bank (PB) Hire Purchase & AITAB Hire Purchase-i Moratorium
(New updates pursuant to Bank Negara Malaysia’s announcement on 30 April 2020)

To safeguard the interests of all Hire Purchase (“HP”) and AITAB Hire Purchase-i (AITAB HP-i) customers, all customers who wish to take up the HP Moratorium are required to submit their application TO OPT-IN under this new process.

Public Bank HP customers and Public Islamic Bank AITAB HP-i customers who wish TO OPT-IN must complete and confirm your acceptance to the HP Moratorium terms* not later than 28 May 2020.

*HP Moratorium terms would include the following:
1. The prevailing Annual Percentage Rate (APR) as stated in the existing HP Agreement/AITAB HP-i Agreement will be charged on the deferred instalments.
2. The financing tenure/maturity date will be consequentially deferred corresponding to the period of moratorium granted.

For further details, please refer to Frequently Ask Questions (FAQs): https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Announcements/h...ovid19-faq.aspx

CLICK HERE (https://www.pbebank.com/forms/form-hp-opt-in.aspx) to access the Consent Form. Please complete and submit the Consent Form not later than 28 May 2020

NO ACTION is required from customers who do not wish to take up the HP Moratorium. You are required to resume the normal HP/AITAB HP-i instalment payments.

Please call our HP Moratorium hunting lines from Monday to Thursday (8.45 a.m. to 5.45 p.m.) and on Friday (8.45 a.m. to 4.45 p.m.) should you require further assistance.

For HP Account
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2. 03-21767702
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For AITAB HP-i Account
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- 30 April 2020
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I did not opt in but my next payment date is in Nov - I'm not sure if I overpaid last time or not.

Does anybody having HP with PBB that aren't opted-in can please help to check your next payment date? I'm not sure if PBB accidentally opted me in without my consent.
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I did not opt in but my next payment date is in Nov - I'm not sure if I overpaid last time or not.

Does anybody having HP with PBB that aren't opted-in can please help to check your next payment date? I'm not sure if PBB accidentally opted me in without my consent.
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Same with me. I opted out when they sent the sms message and I also did it on the online form that was previously provided but my next payment date is still stated as Nov. Super inefficient!.
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Has Maybank release their acceptance form ?
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QUOTE(LovelyPotato @ May 5 2020, 09:20 AM)
I did not opt in but my next payment date is in Nov - I'm not sure if I overpaid last time or not.

Does anybody having HP with PBB that aren't opted-in can please help to check your next payment date? I'm not sure if PBB accidentally opted me in without my consent.
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Same with me. I opted out when they sent the sms message and I also did it on the online form that was previously provided but my next payment date is still stated as Nov. Super inefficient!.
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I have a HP with PBB as well. Only opted-in not to defer by the SMS method. Yeah, my next payment date is Nov as well, and I paid the amount for May today, and it became Dec. Wanted to call Customer Service but line was busy.
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Looks like there is a 360 degree somersault flip turn on the hp moratorium. Let's wait for the official statement from BNM and the banks
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very confusing, my HP loan confirm not extra interest right?
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A good number of my clients have asked for my thoughts on their hire-purchase moratorium - should they opt for the deferment? Drafted below is my professional opinion as a personal finance practitioner on the issue. If you have not caught up with the latest news, it was recently announced that interest will NOT be charged on the deferred installments throughout the hire-purchase (HP) tenure

As reported by The Star, quoting the Finance Minister Tengku Datuk Seri Zafrul Aziz

In light of this, it is advantageous for HP account holders to utilize the deferment - money in-hand is better than off it, especially when there are no costs (interests) associated to the deferment. It is critical that you maintain a healthy cash flow at all times, failing of which may render you insolvent - unable to service your debts and commitments, including paying for basic necessities

Cash reserves should be in place in the event where your income is affected beyond your control; the effects of MCO to the economy will last longer than the MCO itself. The economy has tanked; BNM has recently reduced the overnight-policy-rate (OPR) by 0.50% to 2.00% in the hopes of spurring the economy through cheaper borrowings, among other things

If you are currently employed, there are no guarantees that you will remain to be so in the next few months; likewise if you are currently unemployed, there are no guarantees that you will find any employment in the near future. As such it is best that the money meant for your HP installments be kept within your reach instead; your current situation may change for the worse and having resources such as cash in-hand will help with your survivability

It is also possible to generate some returns as it can be invested in any low-risk investment accounts that would be compounded over the next few months if not years - depending on the remaining duration of your HP accounts. Keep in mind that these small but effective investments would carry no costs associated to it

However, this advise does not apply to those who plan on using the money to spend on needless, frivolous and previously unbudgeted items in your wishlist. If you are a spendthrift, it would be best that you continue paying your installments on time, as per scheduled in the HP agreement originally
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very confusing, my HP loan confirm not extra interest right?
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since u turn by bnm past few days, i already paid for 2 months apr and may installment... because i dun want to pay extra chgs... now MOF issued new letter... so if i would like to take the advantage, can i just ignore for another 4 months?
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Do we need to accept the MORATORIUM via our banks, right ?
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loan due already now left hanging
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just talked to SC bank live agent. for personal loan such CashOne, the tenure will be extended and the monthly installment remain the same.

example the moratorium start apr 2020, then i defer until sep 2020, and only resume paying on oct2020, and the tenure extend for 6 months, and the installment amount is the same.

to me it looks like no extra interest charged right
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QUOTE(ronnie @ May 7 2020, 06:11 PM)
Do we need to accept the MORATORIUM via our banks, right ?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 8 2020, 05:29 PM)
just talked to SC bank live agent. for personal loan such CashOne, the tenure will be extended and the monthly installment remain the same.

example the moratorium start apr 2020, then i defer until sep 2020, and only resume paying on oct2020, and the tenure extend for 6 months, and the installment amount is the same.

to me it looks like no extra interest charged right
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How about those on variable rate hire purchase?
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How about those on variable rate hire purchase?
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need to ask live chat urself, apparently i only check the loan i have with SC.
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How about those on variable rate hire purchase?
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Interesting which bank offers variable Hire Purchase ? what's the rate based on ?
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Any info from Public Bank yet?
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Public bank still krikk krikk. they only have the previous announcement in the website, the automatic application one dated 27 march. previous statement that require to apply via online form is somehow missing. i could not find it anymore.
at least give some statement, like currently we are in the midst of preparing or something, like Bank Islam where they stated they are finalizing the procedure due to latest announcement by MOF.
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QUOTE(battu @ May 10 2020, 12:48 PM)
Public bank still krikk krikk. they only have the previous announcement in the website, the automatic application one dated 27 march. previous statement that require to apply via online form is somehow missing. i could not find it anymore.
at least give some statement, like currently we are in the midst of preparing or something, like Bank Islam where they stated they are finalizing the procedure due to latest announcement by MOF.
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They were very fast when the u-turn came - calculations are ready within hours,
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They were very fast when the u-turn came - calculations are ready within hours,
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Hahaha. True. Maybe behind they still trying to get government to do another u-turn
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Now really confuse which is which then.

Auto opt in or need to sign opt in.

How about those using SI or auto account debit every month for the monthly payment.
No info from bank, nor clarify how those with SI, next month will auto deduct again?

Edit : How about last month (Apr) that didn't auto deduct? If option taken or if by default without moratorium.

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I wanna check with u guys, for the housing loan, if opt in moratorium, they will recalculate the monthly installment again? I have housing loan with both cimb and rhb bank..
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I wanna check with u guys, for the housing loan, if opt in moratorium, they will recalculate the monthly installment again? I have housing loan with both cimb and rhb bank..
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Yes they will.
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Yes they will.
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Okok but i see my standard chartered personal loan they still accumulate my interest, wat the fuk..

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I tried email them see what they say
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Okok but i see my standard chartered personal loan they still accumulate my interest, wat the fuk..

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Of course they will. Interestt will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount but it will not be compounded.
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Of course they will. Interestt will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount but it will not be compounded.
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(Updated 30/4/2020, 8pm) BNM and ABM’s announcement today covers only hire purchase agreements as well as fixed-rate Islamic financing. There is no mention of additional interest charges for conventional loans, so for now, it is safe to say that conventional personal loans will have no additional interest charged.

this is what ringgitplus charged.
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Of course they will. Interestt will continue to accrue on the outstanding principal amount but it will not be compounded.
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but the SC live chat say i will pay the same installment amount the tenure only extend? My understanding this is delay without additional charges?

(Updated 30/4/2020, 8pm) BNM and ABM’s announcement today covers only hire purchase agreements as well as fixed-rate Islamic financing. There is no mention of additional interest charges for conventional loans, so for now, it is safe to say that conventional personal loans will have no additional interest charged.

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Maybank has the link under Hire Purchase.
But gets an error to "Continue Deferment".

there's another part says you are auto-enrolled in the Deferment
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Maybank has the link under Hire Purchase.
But gets an error to "Continue Deferment".

there's another part says you are auto-enrolled in the Deferment
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They should have just sticker back to auto enrollment and avoided all this silliness and confusion with applying for enrollment. Haihz
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 10 2020, 06:14 PM)
(Updated 30/4/2020, 8pm) BNM and ABM’s announcement today covers only hire purchase agreements as well as fixed-rate Islamic financing. There is no mention of additional interest charges for conventional loans, so for now, it is safe to say that conventional personal loans will have no additional interest charged.

this is what ringgitplus charged.
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The latest U-Turn was for the HP and fixed-rate Islamic financing. For everything else, it's as what i have said in my previous post.
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https://www.maybank2u.com.my/iwov-resources...2u_final_V1.pdf

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QUOTE(MNF0 @ May 10 2020, 10:07 PM)
The latest U-Turn was for the HP and fixed-rate Islamic financing. For everything else, it's as what i have said in my previous post.
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Last time oledi say fixed interest all no additional charges, then HP and fixed rate islamic u-turn become got interest, then only S turn balik become no interest la my fren
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Hahaha. True. Maybe behind they still trying to get government to do another u-turn
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PBB updated link mentioned no interest on interest but deferred interest still there
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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ May 11 2020, 02:56 PM)
PBB updated link mentioned no interest on interest but deferred interest still there
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What does it means in layman's term?

Back to the very original version?
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 11 2020, 07:04 AM)
Last time oledi say fixed interest all no additional charges, then HP and fixed rate islamic u-turn become got interest, then only S turn balik become no interest la my fren
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You still don't get it do you? That was the first U-turn. My last post was about the latest U-turn.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 11 2020, 03:41 PM)
What does it means in layman's term?

Back to the very original version?
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Just follow the latest MoF statement... no interest on Hire Purchase(HP) moratorium, just delay payment for 6 months. which add 6 month payment to your existing HP loan

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Just follow the latest MoF statement... no interest on Hire Purchase(HP) moratorium, just delay payment for 6 months. which add 6 month payment to your existing HP loan
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feel like u will pay more later. cos let say the tenure is 60 months, then now paused at 50months, then 66 months later add 6 months to ur tenure, become 56, then u total pay will start from 50 to 66
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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ May 11 2020, 02:56 PM)
PBB updated link mentioned no interest on interest but deferred interest still there
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where to get this link? I couldn't find it at PB ebanking or website
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 11 2020, 06:28 PM)
feel like u will pay more later. cos let say the tenure is 60 months, then now paused at 50months, then 66 months later add 6 months to ur tenure, become 56, then u total pay will start from 50 to 66
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why would u pay more?

U are just delaying your 6 months payment until the end.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ May 11 2020, 06:28 PM)
feel like u will pay more later. cos let say the tenure is 60 months, then now paused at 50months, then 66 months later add 6 months to ur tenure, become 56, then u total pay will start from 50 to 66
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Hire Purchase is calculated upfront with interest divide by number of loan tenure.
It's fixed ... just that the banks get their money 6-month later.

Previously, the banks wanted to "earn" extra interest ...thanks to MoF who step in to "reverse" the directive.
Good for the "rakyat"
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where to get this link? I couldn't find it at PB ebanking or website
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https://www.pbebank.com/Others/COVID-19.aspx
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https://www.affinonline.com/covid-19

This from Affin bank, similar to PBB.

It’s confusing as both banks mentioned HP loan interest would be accrued to loan balance.
I thought with latest BNM announcement, the only impact would be loan tenure extension
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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ May 12 2020, 12:02 AM)
Thanks.

There is no specific mention of Hire Purchase. I guess it is a blanket for all types of loan.

Also things to note:
This is an AUTOMATIC offering; NO application is required smile.gif

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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ May 12 2020, 12:08 AM)
https://www.affinonline.com/covid-19

This from Affin bank, similar to PBB.

It’s confusing as both banks mentioned HP loan interest would be accrued to loan balance.
I thought with latest BNM announcement, the only impact would be loan tenure extension
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You mean this part?
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My bad, so it’s not HP loan.
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QUOTE(TheRedDevil @ May 12 2020, 12:11 AM)
My bad, so it’s not HP loan.
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I am not sure myself actually.
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I think the best is get the right info, then someone pin it up at first page nuff said.

else, there'll be never ending discussion on this confusion
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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 01:39 AM)
Hello newbie here. If anybody is interested in calculating the extra amount you need to pay from this loan moratorium, came across this pretty good calculator here: http://doctorfrugal.com/loanmoratoriumcalculator/

I used this to calculate my new monthly repayment and it seems pretty accurate.

Loan Moratorium calculator
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This is no longer applicable right? Based on the latest u-turn
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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 01:58 AM)
Nope it still is if i am not wrong. Based on my excel spreadsheet I compared against. Under Option 1 and 2 not extra interest charges if u pay lump sum in October, as per announced.

Disclaimer: This was built by the colleague of one of my good friend so I knew he took it into account.
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The option 1 or 2 thingy doesn't exist anymore if things revert plan to the original plan, ie. just a simple payment deferment of 6 months with no extra charge. However, as can still be seen here, things are quite vague. The bank could have come out with a simple calculation scenario..
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from what I see, in order to get moratorium for PBB HirePurchase loan, need to apply is it?
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from what I see, in order to get moratorium for PBB HirePurchase loan, need to apply is it?
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Previously before the MOF statement there is a dedicated "HP Opt-in" button in PBE.

Now the button is gone.

Not sure if that indicate all moratorium for HirePurchase is "automatic" now.

Edit : typo

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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 01:39 AM)
Hello newbie here. If anybody is interested in calculating the extra amount you need to pay from this loan moratorium, came across this pretty good calculator here: http://doctorfrugal.com/loanmoratoriumcalculator/

I used this to calculate my new monthly repayment and it seems pretty accurate.

Loan Moratorium calculator
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This is for Home Loan right ?
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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 10:25 AM)
Yep to answer Ronnie's q home loan can be used. Based on speaking to my banker it seems unlikely that banks would revert to simple payment deferment of 6 months with no extra charge - everyone would just do that then and banks would lose too much. he says lump sum payment in October almost definitely, as reported earlier.
"The first option is to “pay the accumulated six months’ deferred instalments together with their October instalment without being charged any additional interest”.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2020...chase-customers
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Your information and news from the url is outdated
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ May 12 2020, 09:18 AM)
Previously before the MOF statement there is a dedicated "HP Opt-in" button in PBE.

Now the button is gone.

Not sure if that indicate all moratorium for HirePurchase is "automatic" now.

Edit : typo
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Because through their website, I saw a form there.. not sure needs to be filled and submit or not
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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 01:45 PM)
The assumptions made in this Loan moratorium calculator seems to be in line with Edge article posted today.


"The Association of Banks in Malaysia says HP customers who choose to take up the moratorium, which runs from April to September, will have the option to pay the accumulated six months’ deferred instalments – meaning, principal and interest – together with their October instalment without being charged any additional interest "

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hire...ndrum-explained
But i agree with u there are so many conflicting statments, with zafrul saying no need to pay interest. But the latest statement from Association of Banks in Malaysia seems to contradict this. was planning to take up the moratorium but my banker telling me otherwise ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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I will take a wait and see approach. Hopefully my bank, public bank, will come out with something more concrete and clear

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QUOTE(johnhew1849 @ May 12 2020, 01:45 PM)
The assumptions made in this Loan moratorium calculator seems to be in line with Edge article posted today.


"The Association of Banks in Malaysia says HP customers who choose to take up the moratorium, which runs from April to September, will have the option to pay the accumulated six months’ deferred instalments – meaning, principal and interest – together with their October instalment without being charged any additional interest "

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/hire...ndrum-explained
But i agree with u there are so many conflicting statments, with zafrul saying no need to pay interest. But the latest statement from Association of Banks in Malaysia seems to contradict this. was planning to take up the moratorium but my banker telling me otherwise ranting.gif  ranting.gif
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This article was published on last week's the edge weekly magazine (May 4 to May 10 edition).

The author probably write the article based on previous information during the last week of April, which is before Zafrul's announcement on 6th May.
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RM0.00 MBB/MIB: Your HP/HP-i moratorium will not incur additional interest/profit. To confirm participation, log in to M2U/M2UBiz or call 1300886688 by 31/05/20

This is what I get from Maybank, I log in to the website and the agreement which I agreed to also mention no extra interest incurred. Just extend the loan repayment by 6 months.
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RM0.00 MBB/MIB: Your HP/HP-i moratorium will not incur additional interest/profit. To confirm participation, log in to M2U/M2UBiz or call 1300886688 by 31/05/20

This is what I get from Maybank, I log in to the website and the agreement which I agreed to also mention no extra interest incurred. Just extend the loan repayment by 6 months.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 12 2020, 05:09 PM)
Good job Maybank
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My Maybank already said it's under deferment... How accept it the 2nd time ?
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My Maybank already said it's under deferment... How accept it the 2nd time ?
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From where you know this?
Inside Maybank2u?

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From where you know this?
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Classic M2U view cannot see these options

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Following Bank Negara Malaysia’s announcement on 30 April 2020, customers who wish to participate in the 6-month moratorium/repayment deferment from April to September 2020 for Hire Purchase financing are required to provide their official confirmation.

We know that you have been very patient as we prepared our systems and processes to enable you to provide your confirmation in a hassle-free manner, and we thank you for that.

Here is some information to help you understand the Hire Purchase moratorium better and what you need to do.

For further details, please read the FAQ: https://mybk.co/3fEKCFb

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 27 2020, 12:32 PM)
I tried accessing this website but it has been taken down..
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I tried accessing this website but it has been taken down..
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dude, the link was in March. things have changed few times since.

PBB's covid-19 dedicated page >> https://www.pbebank.com/Others/COVID-19.aspx
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dude, the link was in March. things have changed few times since.

PBB's covid-19 dedicated page >> https://www.pbebank.com/Others/COVID-19.aspx
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For HP its not mentioned, is it the same ar? tried calling them but couldnt reach.
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Not sure if this is new. Just notice this at my PBe, under loan:

Last Payment Date : 05-03-2020
Next Payment Date : 14-10-2020

Did not click to opt out (initial round) or click to opt in (1st uturn)
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for AMBANK HP , i login but there is no yes / no available to click but i saw the account details already reflect

from 60months to 66 months, and due date is October 2020
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When want charge interest, PBB was the first to send out SMS and confirmation page.

Not interest free, they diam saja...
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Anyone has update on Public Bank Hire-Purchase loan. No info by them, regarding how to opt in.
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Got an sms from affin.

RM0.00 AFFIN: HP/HP-i Moratorium requires consent by 15June20 for the deferred installments. For details click: https://bit.ly/3dKIytK

Updates in the link below, need to fill in a form and submit to them by 15 June.

https://www.affinonline.com/announcement#optinconsenthpmora
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post May 14 2020, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(clamp_wl @ May 14 2020, 06:09 PM)
Anyone has update on Public Bank Hire-Purchase loan. No info by them, regarding how to opt in.
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Hire Purchase & AITAB Hire Purchase-i Moratorium
(Updates pursuant to Ministry of Finance announcement on 6 May 2020)

*There will be no interest or charges on the deferred instalment.*

However, as a procedural requirement, HP & AITAB HP-i customers are required to complete the Confirmation Form not later than 15 June 2020.

Please CLICK HERE to access the Confirmation Form.
FORM LINK: https://www.pbebank.com/forms/confirm_Moratorium.aspx

For further details, please refer to: Frequently Ask Questions (FAQs)
FAQ LINK: https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Announcements/h...ovid19-faq.aspx

Should you decide not to take up the HP Moratorium please notify your account holding branch in writing by 15 June 2020. You are then required to resume the monthly instalment payments immediately.

Please call our HP Moratorium hunting lines from Monday to Thursday (8.45 a.m. to 5.45 p.m.) and on Friday (8.45 a.m. to 4.45 p.m.) excluding Public Holidays should you require further assistance.

HP Moratorium Hunting Lines: 03-21767701, 03-21767702, 03-21767703

- 14 May 2020

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post May 14 2020, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ May 14 2020, 07:31 PM)
Hire Purchase & AITAB Hire Purchase-i Moratorium
(Updates pursuant to Ministry of Finance announcement on 6 May 2020)

*There will be no interest or charges on the deferred instalment.*

However, as a procedural requirement, HP & AITAB HP-i customers are required to complete the Confirmation Form not later than 15 June 2020.

Please CLICK HERE to access the Confirmation Form.
LINK: https://www.pbebank.com/forms/confirm_Moratorium.aspx

Should you decide not to take up the HP Moratorium please notify your account holding branch in writing by 15 June 2020. You are then required to resume the monthly instalment payments immediately.

Please call our HP Moratorium hunting lines from Monday to Thursday (8.45 a.m. to 5.45 p.m.) and on Friday (8.45 a.m. to 4.45 p.m.) excluding Public Holidays should you require further assistance.

HP Moratorium Hunting Lines: 03-21767701, 03-21767702, 03-21767703

- 14 May 2020
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Thank you very much
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post May 14 2020, 07:37 PM

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The FAQ
https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Announcements/h...ovid19-faq.aspx

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4. Will my HP/AITAB HP-i financing tenure be automatically deferred after the Moratorium period?
Yes. The HP/AITAB HP-i financing tenure will be consequentially deferred for further six (6) months.
However, you have the option to pay off the deferred instalments at any time earlier.


5. Will there be an increase in my monthly instalments?
No. There will no increase in your monthly instalments. Your monthly instalments remain unchanged.


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This post has been edited by GrumpyNooby: May 14 2020, 07:40 PM
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ May 14 2020, 07:39 PM)
Error:

Sorry, the page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable.
New updates will be available in due course.
We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
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As attached.

I hope they will have the form in PBe soon too.

This post has been edited by Human Nature: May 14 2020, 07:42 PM


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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ May 14 2020, 07:31 PM)
Hire Purchase & AITAB Hire Purchase-i Moratorium
(Updates pursuant to Ministry of Finance announcement on 6 May 2020)

*There will be no interest or charges on the deferred instalment.*

However, as a procedural requirement, HP & AITAB HP-i customers are required to complete the Confirmation Form not later than 15 June 2020.

Please CLICK HERE to access the Confirmation Form.
FORM LINK: https://www.pbebank.com/forms/confirm_Moratorium.aspx

For further details, please refer to: Frequently Ask Questions (FAQs)
FAQ LINK: https://www.pbebank.com/pdf/Announcements/h...ovid19-faq.aspx

Should you decide not to take up the HP Moratorium please notify your account holding branch in writing by 15 June 2020. You are then required to resume the monthly instalment payments immediately.

Please call our HP Moratorium hunting lines from Monday to Thursday (8.45 a.m. to 5.45 p.m.) and on Friday (8.45 a.m. to 4.45 p.m.) excluding Public Holidays should you require further assistance.

HP Moratorium Hunting Lines: 03-21767701, 03-21767702, 03-21767703

- 14 May 2020
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to opt in, need to fill up the form again.

how many times they need us to fill up. as for now the server still ok, soon it will crash again
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post May 14 2020, 07:57 PM

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to opt in, need to fill up the form again.

how many times they need us to fill up. as for now the server still ok, soon it will crash again
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The funny thing, if don't want to opt in also have to inform in writing
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QUOTE(sarah0601 @ May 14 2020, 07:29 PM)
Got an sms from affin.

RM0.00 AFFIN: HP/HP-i Moratorium requires consent by 15June20 for the deferred installments. For details click: https://bit.ly/3dKIytK

Updates in the link below, need to fill in a form and submit to them by 15 June.

https://www.affinonline.com/announcement#optinconsenthpmora
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Thanks for the note, got it too. Understanding the FAQ from them correctly, there is absolutely no additional or extra charges/interest on the deferment. Only thing that happens is to start paying the usual monthly installment on October 2020 and the loan maturity period extended by 6 months, but final total payable amount is exactly the same.
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Hopefully there is no U-Turn again.
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Anyone filled up the PB confirmation form already? Do you get any notification to confirm that your submission is accepted?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 15 2020, 04:08 PM)
Anyone filled up the PB confirmation form already? Do you get any notification to confirm that your submission is accepted?
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I signed up yesterday, but just notice that accept my submission but not sure will get another approval notification.

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