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post Nov 4 2019, 04:05 AM, updated 6y ago

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Anyone still awake? I just wanna talk cause I'm feeling really depressed right now.

Whatever happen is as follow:

I grew up in a strict family. My dad was a disciplinarian. Typical Asian dad who put a lot of emphasis on my studies. Whenever my grades were bad, I was caned and hit. I would not said that he physically abuse me but yeah, this was his way of making sure I excel in my studies. He was really this strict to me and my sister. It was harsh love growing up. My dad was uneducated so he wanted us not to follow him. I knew he did all these because he love us but its just the way he did all this was harsh. I learnt all the curse words from him which says a lot. However, my dad provided well for the family in term of resources. We were never financially lacking and he gave us the best that he could.

When I was 12, my dad was diagnosed with cancer and he left us after 2 years battling with the illness. It was a very devastating period for me and my family. The good thing is that he accepted Christ during his sickness. Though I went to church since young, our family was never a Christian family. So after he left, I went into a rebel mode. My mom could never control me because I was never scared of her. I was scared of my dad. My grades dipped dramatically and a lot of shit happened to me during that time. My dad left use a huge house before he left which was fully paid off. My mom's brother persuaded her to turn this house into mortgage to raise funds for his new business venture. My mom did and long story short, the business failed and we had to sell off the house because we could not afford paying the monthly loan. This was the main reason why my relationship with my mom became really bad. We stop talking for like more than a year because that time I was angry at her for losing our house. We had to rent from one house to another. My sister got a scholarship to study in the States while all these happened so she was out of the picture for quite a long time.
So basically, my relationship with my family was non-existence. Things have gotten better with my mom but it was never like how it used to be. While we go for dinner together once in a while, I stop telling her my problems. As for my sister, she is living in another city and she has her own life so I won't want to bother her with my problems.

Probably because I grew up in an a female environment, my closest friend are girls as well. I always thought that girls are better listener whom I can share my problems too. Both my closest girl friends have been my friend since 7. I have very close guy friends as well but they are not the kind of people who you would share your problems to. I'm sure they will drag me to the bar and ask me to relax when I share my problems with them. Thing is I don't really like drinking or smoking. But we still hang out over meals and all. I hang out more with my girl friends and over the years, I find it easier to make friend with girls rather than guys. Another thing I find it hard to be close to guys was an experience when I was young. I was 10 or 11 when I joined this camp. I was sexually molested by a guy elder than me when we slept beside each other during the camp. Why I am telling you this is because this became an issue later on.

So I became a serious Christian after my break up in my 2nd relationship. It was a 4 years relationship that crushed me and I had to rely on God that time. It was in the church I met her. She is a very God fearing girl and grew up in a Christian family. She is everything that I am not. The youngest in the family, she is disciplined, her family is soft and gentle. However, one thing similar is that she lost her dad when she was young too. Because of this, she grew up having low self esteem and lack of a father figure in her life. As you can see, we are two individuals with a lot of issues growing up.

When we got together, we had a rough time of trying to adapt to each other expectation. She was very sensitive with the words that come out from me and who I hang out with. Me on the other hand was very insecure because of the lack of family connection. When we quarreled, I would throw harsh words to her which I dont mean it. Subconsciously, I was behaving like my dad. She on the other hand, set a very high expectation on me. A lot of time, I find her comparing me with her cousin, her brother in law which seemed unfair for me because she was taking everyone's strength and comparing it with me. So as mentioned previously, most of my closest friend are female and this is something she struggle to accept. These are friends I have known since I was 7. I have very close guy friends but they are all married with kids so we don't hang out that much now. I tried inviting her to our outings to show her there was nothing between us but she just could not fully accept this. She initiated a break up in March as she thought that we are world's apart but we instead of breaking up, we had a cooling period for 3 weeks before patching up again. I made adjustments for her. I tried to keep a distance from my girl friends as I know she is sensitive in this area too. We only met up on special occasions and I always brought her along. This is the girl I wanna stay forever with so I was willing to make some sacrifices along the way.We manage to iron the differences and stick with each other.

Another issue we had was physical intimacy. We both agreed not to have pre-marital sex and I respected her decision in this. We never went across each other necks to give you an idea. Although there are times I wish we had more, I never asked her to compromise. However, I did not know that she would even feel guilty from passionate kissing. She only revealed to me after the break up. For me, I told her although I agreed to not having pre-marital sex, I have my needs and desire as a guy and I struggle in them. Few months ago when she was at the crossroad of her career and she always wanted to go overseas to work. I accompanied her to fly to another country to attend an interview and I told her if she got this job and made her decision to come over, I will follow her as well. I was prepared to leave my current job and family to go with her. The reason why I did not plan to work in a bigger city was because of my mom. I don't wanna leave her alone because my sister is already living abroad. But I was prepared to go with her that time. She did not get the job though.

I thought everything was good and all. We even went to a marriage counselling because we are prepared to bring this relationship to another level. In probably August I was searching my chat in her phone and I accidentally found out she was talking with her sister about me. She told her sister she doesn't know how to continue in this relationship. She mentioned she was struggling in it. This caught me in a surprise because I really thought everything was good. I was meeting her 6-7 days per week. Basically almost everyday. Either for lunch, dinner or both. And she did not appear like she was having issues in this relationship. Of course we had minor quarrels every now and then but nothing major. Like which couple doesn't quarrel? I admit I am not a very soft person that gives in to everything we quarrel. When I read the conversation, it was already a week old so I decided not to bring it up to her. I thought she solved it herself already and I was afraid bringing up might give her the chance to initiate break ups. I mean since she did not bring it up to me, I better act as if I did not know about this. Maybe while I was working, I did not reply to her message or sometimes, I will ignore her the entire afternoon. I thought that might be the problem. She was a home baker so she actually had a lot of free times. She was going to start a full time job in September so I thought things will be better once she started working and got busy.

There was this other girl. She was a work acquaintance from a competitor company. We were friends and she was divorced. Initially I tried to talk to her to help her get through her divorce. This was way before I got into this relationship. I had empathy for people going through such heart break because I knew what it felt. So after that, we kinda texted each other every now and then talking about work and what not. It wasn't frequent, probably once every month or so. I had no feelings for her but in September, she got bold suddenly. She started sending me photos of her in beach wear. September was a very low period for me because I quit my job over stress, my dog pass away and I had to go for a surgery over my knee. My mistake here is I did not let my gf know how low I was feeling as she was struggling in her new job as it was an entirely new industry for her. I did not want to add over to her stress. I know I had no excuse for doing what I did. But I did it. Maybe I was desperate for sexual gratification. I said things that I should not be saying to another girl when she sent her photos over. It happened over a week and I cut it off. There were not nudes or nothing physical involved. I thought it was harmless because it was pleasure to my eyes and I would never do anything more than that. This girl is staying in a different city.

My ex found out when she stayed over with me in the hospital. She could not accept this betrayal. I admitted and took 100% responsibility that it was my mistake. I fell into a temptation that I should not have. I was weak and I lost my self control. I pleaded my case and asked her to extend grace to me and give me another chance but she told me this was too much to take. I shattered her trust and destroyed her self esteem. Of course when she doesnt trust me, everything sounded like a lie. I told her if she needs to believe one thing, please believe me when I said it was not her problem. It was mine. I dont want her to think that she did not do enough in this relationship and her shortfall caused me to do whatever I did.

It has been 2 weeks. The last time we spoke on the phone, I told her I will be praying for her recovery. I told her I will be reflecting on my action and repent hard. This is a reminder to me what damage sin of lust could do and I will bring this lesson into marriage. We will not be contacting one another because she needs to rebuild herself back and any contact with me will only remind her of the terrible things I did. For myself, I have to go back to God and sort myself out. I asked to to pray for our relationship too. Put our relationship at the corner of her heart. It will not be the focus for her right now so keep it in the corner. If our relationship is God's will, He will bring us back to one another regardless how long we need to take. I want her back. Of course I do. But I have accepted for this moment, I need to let her go.

You know I always wanted my own family because I thought I havent had a good childhood growing up. Family was almost non existant for me. My dream was to have my own family and I would give my children whatever I was lacking off. Ironically, I ruined my own dream and cost us both our future together. I dont know how will I ever forgive myself. She told me she doesn't hate me and she forgive me for what I did. She just cannot stay around in this relationship anymore. Each time I felt depressed and broken, I reminded myself she is probably having it worse than me. Very often I asked God why the punishment for my sin comes with such a big price to pay. But I am totally aware that I made a huge mistake in life and I just have to carry this consequences with me.

So this is basically my story.

This post has been edited by prelude23: Nov 11 2019, 09:35 PM
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:09 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:05 AM)
Anyone still awake? I just wanna talk cause I'm feeling really depressed right now.
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Kenot sleep haih. 30min wan go work
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:10 AM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Nov 4 2019, 04:09 AM)
Kenot sleep haih. 30min wan go work
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Why cannot sleep? What you work so early need to wake up
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:10 AM

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post Nov 4 2019, 04:11 AM

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post Nov 4 2019, 04:12 AM

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Morning... Now go cook 2 eggs

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Then put on some sneakers... And go walk for 2 hours.
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:13 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:05 AM)
Anyone still awake? I just wanna talk cause I'm feeling really depressed right now.
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Why depressed? I just woke up. I am preparing nyself for flight to Bangkok
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:15 AM

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post Nov 4 2019, 04:15 AM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Nov 4 2019, 04:10 AM)
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Ya. In 1-2 years? I don't know how to get through till then
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:16 AM

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Oh. Still working kah
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:16 AM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:12 AM)
Morning... Now go cook 2 eggs

After that do what what is programmed...

Then put on some sneakers... And go walk for 2 hours.
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You're very disciplined....
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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Nov 4 2019, 04:15 AM)
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:10 AM)
Why cannot sleep? What you work so early need to wake up
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Dunno, too much kopi i think. Jialat
Hmm have to make breakfast then go work nia.
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QUOTE(kavman1984 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:13 AM)
Why depressed? I just woke up. I am preparing nyself for flight to Bangkok
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Aiyo so gooding. Pls post more bangkok girls
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QUOTE(kavman1984 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:13 AM)
Why depressed? I just woke up. I am preparing nyself for flight to Bangkok
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Whats up bro , apa sudah jadi
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Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:19 AM

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post Nov 4 2019, 04:19 AM

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:15 AM)
Ya. In 1-2 years? I don't know how to get through till then
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Ya, I'm working on call 24/7 basis. So I got call this morning at 2 am and do some troubleshooting.

Why r u depressing?
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Yeah. It's like your mind just wanna go home even though you're home.
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Ya, I'm working on call 24/7 basis. So I got call this morning at 2 am and do some troubleshooting.

Why r u depressing?
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You doctor?

Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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Don't worry. We all have messed up life. Just move on
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:22 AM

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QUOTE(kavman1984 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:20 AM)
Don't worry. We all have messed up life. Just move on
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Can't forgive myself. Can't face ppl around me. Felt like a failure...
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:19 AM)
Yeah. It's like your mind just wanna go home even though you're home.
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Now feel want to go home sleep, cold like fuk
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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Nov 4 2019, 04:22 AM)
Now feel want to go home sleep, cold like fuk
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Can't forgive myself. Can't face ppl around me. Felt like a failure...
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When u start recognize ur failure is the sign of hope
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:27 AM

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QUOTE(keyibukeyi @ Nov 4 2019, 04:27 AM)
Nope.
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Then? Nurse?
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post Nov 4 2019, 04:28 AM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Nov 4 2019, 04:25 AM)
When u start recognize ur failure is the sign of hope
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Thank you.

I realise my mistake and all the problems that follow me but maybe too late
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Then? Nurse?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:28 AM)
Thank you.

I realise my mistake and all the problems that follow me but maybe too late
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Nothing too late until ur last breath. Go wash ur face , walk around town. There ppl worst then u. Should glad and start appreciate what u have now.

Whatever pass is happen, whatever infuture is up to u.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:20 AM)
You doctor?

Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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Nope, I'm a system engineer. Doing my job remotely from home.

I also had a very rough journey few year back with lots of problem financially, with my wife, my families and also issue with my working environment. It's quite stressful with all the pressure all around u even at one time I also felt that no more hope in everything. I even at few time's I injured myself due to the stress, but luckily I got support from my wife.

Yes it's very tough, but if u keep on positively thinking that everything will be back to normal or better, it will help u to go thru all the issues/stress that you're experiencing now.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:17 AM)
Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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Nobody has a smooth journey bro , everybody got their issues to clean up . I guess your rship messing up kinda brought you down .

Nothing stays the same , it changes all the time .


Be sad but go exercise , go lepak with friends . Soon you will get over it and continue with your life and will find ways in making it better .

It will be better eventually .


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post Nov 4 2019, 04:35 AM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Nov 4 2019, 04:31 AM)
Nothing too late until ur last breath. Go wash ur face , walk around town. There ppl worst then u. Should glad and start appreciate what u have now.

Whatever pass is happen, whatever infuture is up to u.
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Thank you. I know the right thing to do and all but it's just it's so difficult to do the right thing now. Feel so empty and no one I can talk to. Not even my family. Night time is so scary.

QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 04:32 AM)
Nope, I'm a system engineer. Doing my job remotely from home.

I also had a very rough journey few year back with lots of problem financially, with my wife, my families and also issue with my working environment. It's quite stressful with all the pressure all around u even at one time I also felt that no more hope in everything. I even at few time's I injured myself due to the stress, but luckily I got support from my wife.

Yes it's very tough, but if u keep on positively thinking that everything will be back to normal or better, it will help u to go thru all the issues/stress that you're experiencing now.
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How to think positive? I hope there's someone here comforting me too....
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QUOTE(UpsideDownYeah @ Nov 4 2019, 04:33 AM)
Nobody has a smooth journey bro , everybody got their issues to clean up . I guess your rship messing up kinda brought you down .

Nothing stays the same , it changes all the time .
Be sad but go exercise , go lepak with friends . Soon you will get over it and continue with your life and will find ways in making it better .

It will be better eventually .
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Thing is I got no friend to find. I have many friend but some got own family so I don't feel good disturb. Some hard to talk about probs. Most of the time I just don't simply go find ppl out. Guess it's My prob. Also scared being judged.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:35 AM)
How to think positive? I hope there's someone here comforting me too....
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U married? How bad is your situation? What types, of issues that depressing you on? Love, work, family, finance?

In my case, my situation it took me 2-3 years to get better. It got even better after I change to a new job, which also give me more income to cover my financial difficulties which also at same time making other things better as well.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:35 AM)
Thank you. I know the right thing to do and all but it's just it's so difficult to do the right thing now. Feel so empty and no one I can talk to. Not even my family. Night time is so scary.
How to think positive? I hope there's someone here comforting me too....
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How scare... If still available. I not lucky as u.
Appreciate while u have. Dun regret afterward.

3hrs more just call them or find them. Say good morning or buy a breakfast. U will feel as bright as new. No worries
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 04:40 AM)
U married? How bad is your situation? What types, of issues that depressing you on? Love, work, family, finance?

In my case, my situation it took me 2-3 years to get better. It got even better after I change to a new job, which also give me more income to cover my financial difficulties which also at same time making other things better as well.
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Love and a non-existence family

What did you go through
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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Nov 4 2019, 04:41 AM)
How scare... If still available. I not lucky as u.
Appreciate while u have. Dun regret afterward.

3hrs more just call them or find them. Say good morning or buy a breakfast. U will feel as bright as new. No worries
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What do you mean. What still available?

Why you not as lucky as me. You won't want my life.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 3 2019, 10:43 AM)
What do you mean. What still available?

Why you not as lucky as me. You won't want my life.
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Dunno how bad ur life is but i think is not worst in the world. Time will ease ur mind and ur pain

Just find sometimes can ease ur mind.
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QUOTE(LowKeras @ Nov 4 2019, 04:48 AM)
Dunno how bad ur life is but i think is not worst in the world. Time will ease ur mind and ur pain

Just find sometimes can ease ur mind.
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Yeah I know not the worst in the world but at least I feeel I'm like the worst in my circle. Or even when I go to church I feel I'm the worst of the lot.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 04:42 AM)
Love and a non-existence family

What did you go through
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My previous job require me to travel 200km everyday from Senawang to Subang, due to my wife workplace(Gov Unit) in Senawang. At first it was still ok for me to travel after 1 year of working, but due to the travel/repair costs and some mistake that I made here and there, my debt keep on increasing and I could not sustain it. This caused me to frequently quarreling with my wife. This also impacted my work performance where I felt no more mood to go to work.

At that time also I was diagnosed with bowel ulcers issue(not yet mutate to cancer) where I had to undergo a 9 hours surgery to remove my large colon to avoid it from becoming cancer. The post surgery was very painful where I rely on morphine to ease the pain. This is the most stressful situation for me and my wife since we stayed quite far away from both of our families.

There are other situation as well that quite stressful, but I managed to hold on till everything went better.
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My previous job require me to travel 200km everyday from Senawang to Subang, due to my wife workplace(Gov Unit) in Senawang. At first it was still ok for me to travel after 1 year of working, but due to the travel/repair costs and some mistake that I made here and there, my debt keep on increasing and I could not sustain it. This caused me to frequently quarreling with my wife. This also impacted my work performance where I felt no more mood to go to work.

At that time also I was diagnosed with bowel ulcers issue(not yet mutate to cancer) where I had to undergo a 9 hours surgery to remove my large colon to avoid it from becoming cancer. The post surgery was very painful where I rely on morphine to ease the pain. This is the most stressful situation for me and my wife since we stayed quite far away from both of our families.

There are other situation as well that quite stressful, but I managed to hold on till everything went better.
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 04:53 AM)
My previous job require me to travel 200km everyday from Senawang to Subang, due to my wife workplace(Gov Unit) in Senawang. At first it was still ok for me to travel after 1 year of working, but due to the travel/repair costs and some mistake that I made here and there, my debt keep on increasing and I could not sustain it. This caused me to frequently quarreling with my wife. This also impacted my work performance where I felt no more mood to go to work.

At that time also I was diagnosed with bowel ulcers issue(not yet mutate to cancer) where I had to undergo a 9 hours surgery to remove my large colon to avoid it from becoming cancer. The post surgery was very painful where I rely on morphine to ease the pain. This is the most stressful situation for me and my wife since we stayed quite far away from both of our families.

There are other situation as well that quite stressful, but I managed to hold on till everything went better.
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Good for you bro.

I just had a surgery too in the middle of all these things. I did an ACL. Reconstruction surgery and now I can't go out for sports. Which made it worse for me cause I can only stay at home in my room.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 05:02 AM)
Good for you bro.

I just had a surgery too in the middle of all these things. I did an ACL. Reconstruction surgery and now I can't go out for sports. Which made it worse for me cause I can only stay at home in my room.
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Why dont u take a break to go to place to ease up your mind. I suggest for you to go to any island just to relax. Take your time to think thru everything that happening and try to come out with a solutions. U need to do something to break yourself from the current situation.
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Me too. Poor performance at work, don’t know how long I can survive
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Thing is I got no friend to find. I have many friend but some got own family so I don't feel good disturb. Some hard to talk about probs. Most of the time I just don't simply go find ppl out. Guess it's My prob. Also scared being judged.
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Itu mcm go and see a psychiatrist bro but don't rely too much on the med if prescribed.

Also be confident being alone . Right now u can go see a psychiatrist , get some exercise , go walk in some nice park , do some volunteer job and try your freakin best to be positive ( watch YouTube videos ) .

If you are religious , can pray as it helps.

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Dude, i'm still up.

Btw how old are you? 20 somthing, right?

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Dude, i'm still up.

Btw how old are you? 20 somthing, right?
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 05:08 AM)
Why dont u take a break to go to place to ease up your mind. I suggest for you to go to any island just to relax. Take your time to think thru everything that happening and try to come out with a solutions. U need to do something to break yourself from the current situation.
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Feels like going for vacation only will make it worse cause I will be thinking its suppose to be two person here
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Me too. Poor performance at work, don’t know how long I can survive
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QUOTE(UpsideDownYeah @ Nov 4 2019, 05:13 AM)
Itu mcm go and see a psychiatrist bro but don't rely too much on the med if prescribed.

Also be confident being alone . Right now u can go see a psychiatrist , get some exercise , go walk in some nice park , do some volunteer job and try your freakin best to be positive ( watch YouTube videos ) .

If you are religious , can pray as it helps.
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Too bad I'm staying in a small city with no psychiatrist around. Hmm I'm confident alone. In fact I do most of my things alone. It's just the emptiness is killing me.

Yeah. Can only pray for now. Thanks
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Don't like the job quit and get another one bro. I'll gladly swap my problem with work.
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I made a mistake causing company to make huge loss, enough to buy a house. Can’t walk away like that.
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I made a mistake causing company to make huge loss, enough to buy a house. Can’t walk away like that.
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cannot sleep since 3.30 am. watched Andre gomes' horrific injury end up golek golek atas katil.

i hope all will be going well for you. you can go to local kk and ask for referral to psychiatrist at bigger hospital.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 05:15 AM)
Feels like going for vacation only will make it worse cause I will be thinking its suppose to be two person here
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Not necessarily, u plan your holiday just to relax your mind. Sometimes if you're alone at a new place can help your feel relaxed.
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QUOTE(leymahn @ Nov 4 2019, 05:22 AM)
cannot sleep since 3.30 am. watched Andre gomes' horrific injury end up golek golek atas katil.

i hope all will be going well for you. you can go to local kk and ask for referral to psychiatrist at bigger hospital.
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I dunno how will the psychiatrist be able to help me. And there's no psychologist here as well


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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 04:53 AM)
My previous job require me to travel 200km everyday from Senawang to Subang, due to my wife workplace(Gov Unit) in Senawang. At first it was still ok for me to travel after 1 year of working, but due to the travel/repair costs and some mistake that I made here and there, my debt keep on increasing and I could not sustain it. This caused me to frequently quarreling with my wife. This also impacted my work performance where I felt no more mood to go to work.

At that time also I was diagnosed with bowel ulcers issue(not yet mutate to cancer) where I had to undergo a 9 hours surgery to remove my large colon to avoid it from becoming cancer. The post surgery was very painful where I rely on morphine to ease the pain. This is the most stressful situation for me and my wife since we stayed quite far away from both of our families.

There are other situation as well that quite stressful, but I managed to hold on till everything went better.
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Fockin hell. What car were u driving when ure doing that 200km trip. I think even with bmw oso hard life max.
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Fockin hell. What car were u driving when ure doing that 200km trip. I think even with bmw oso hard life max.
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QUOTE(soulknight @ Nov 4 2019, 05:38 AM)
First 6 months I drove my Saga only, but due to need to pay for parking, toll's and fuel cost, I changed to buy 250cc bike. but still quite tiring travel long distance.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 4 2019, 05:17 AM)
Too bad I'm staying in a small city with no psychiatrist around. Hmm I'm confident alone. In fact I do most of my things alone. It's just the emptiness is killing me.

Yeah. Can only pray for now. Thanks
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You are stressed , recuperating from a tough injury which makes you less independent at the moment thus the feeling of emptiness when you can't rely on another ?


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QUOTE(UpsideDownYeah @ Nov 4 2019, 05:41 AM)
You are stressed , recuperating from a tough injury which makes you less independent at the moment thus the feeling of emptiness when you can't rely on another ?
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At the same time also did a mistake that cause my other half to leave me. So all at once. Can't forgive myself. And when I lose her, it's like losing a direction in life.

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At the same time also did a mistake that cause my other half to leave me. So all at once. Can't forgive myself. And when I lose her, it's like losing a direction in life.
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Try to patch things up ? Don't force . Give her space when necessary.

If it doesn't work , be sad go through shit but remind yourself to move on and forgive yourself , it won't happen in an instant but it will come .

I hope the best for you bro , be strong and good luck .
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Try to patch things up ? Don't force . Give her space when necessary.

If it doesn't work , be sad  go through shit but remind yourself to move on and forgive yourself , it won't happen in an instant but it will come .

I hope the best for you bro , be strong and good luck .
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I'm probably at giving her the space but for now she doesn't wanna come back yet.

Forgive myself part. That's the hardest. I just don't know how.
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I'm probably at giving her the space but for now she doesn't wanna come back yet.

Forgive myself part. That's the hardest. I just don't know how.
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How long ur breakup with her?
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How long ur breakup with her?
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Chill..

Trust me... you'll recover from her...
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Good for you bro.

I just had a surgery too in the middle of all these things. I did an ACL. Reconstruction surgery and now I can't go out for sports. Which made it worse for me cause I can only stay at home in my room.
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Had mine in 2010... yup took months to recover... walk slowly at first...
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2 weeks plus
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Just take it easy, like people said, we always thought that the person that we loved not always the one that meant to be with us. Sometimes the right person just right next to you without you realized it. You're just 31, there are still long road for you to go. Just don't think to hard and you'll be fine. Separation takes times to heal, but after you healed, a much better world will be open to u.
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Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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i'm jobless now. had a job but couldn't handle pressure so i decided to resign without getting another job. now kinda regret. actively hunting now.
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I sincerely thank each one of you replying this thread.

Reading your comments and taking my time replying them distracted me from self defeating thoughts. Tonight I went to Starbucks until really late just to surround myself with people.
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come cerita all your problems in as much detail as you can remember

let us work through the details

you may get some good advice, but anyway letting it all out will make you feel better
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:15 AM)
you're already anonymous

come cerita all your problems in as much detail as you can remember

let us work through the details

you may get some good advice, but anyway letting it all out will make you feel better
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I just type this somewhere. Here you go.

I grew up in a strict family. My dad was a disciplinarian. Typical Asian dad who put a lot of emphasis on my studies. Whenever my grades were bad, I was caned and hit. I would not said that he physically abuse me but yeah, this was his way of making sure I excel in my studies. He was really this strict to me and my sister. It was harsh love growing up. My dad was uneducated so he wanted us not to follow him. I knew he did all these because he love us but its just the way he did all this was harsh. I learnt all the curse words from him which says a lot. However, my dad provided well for the family in term of resources. We were never financially lacking and he gave us the best that he could.

When I was 12, my dad was diagnosed with cancer and he left us after 2 years battling with the illness. It was a very devastating period for me and my family. The good thing is that he accepted Christ during his sickness. Though I went to church since young, our family was never a Christian family. So after he left, I went into a rebel mode. My mom could never control me because I was never scared of her. I was scared of my dad. My grades dipped dramatically and a lot of shit happened to me during that time. My dad left use a huge house before he left which was fully paid off. My mom's brother persuaded her to turn this house into mortgage to raise funds for his new business venture. My mom did and long story short, the business failed and we had to sell off the house because we could not afford paying the monthly loan. This was the main reason why my relationship with my mom became really bad. We stop talking for like more than a year because that time I was angry at her for losing our house. We had to rent from one house to another. My sister got a scholarship to study in the States while all these happened so she was out of the picture for quite a long time.
So basically, my relationship with my family was non-existence. Things have gotten better with my mom but it was never like how it used to be. While we go for dinner together once in a while, I stop telling her my problems. As for my sister, she is living in another city and she has her own life so I won't want to bother her with my problems.

Probably because I grew up in an a female environment, my closest friend are girls as well. I always thought that girls are better listener whom I can share my problems too. Both my closest girl friends have been my friend since 7. I have very close guy friends as well but they are not the kind of people who you would share your problems to. I'm sure they will drag me to the bar and ask me to relax when I share my problems with them. Thing is I don't really like drinking or smoking. But we still hang out over meals and all. I hang out more with my girl friends and over the years, I find it easier to make friend with girls rather than guys. Another thing I find it hard to be close to guys was an experience when I was young. I was 10 or 11 when I joined this camp. I was sexually molested by a guy elder than me when we slept beside each other during the camp. Why I am telling you this is because this became an issue later on.

So I became a serious Christian after my break up in my 2nd relationship. It was a 4 years relationship that crushed me and I had to rely on God that time. It was in the church I met her. She is a very God fearing girl and grew up in a Christian family. She is everything that I am not. The youngest in the family, she is disciplined, her family is soft and gentle. However, one thing similar is that she lost her dad when she was young too. Because of this, she grew up having low self esteem and lack of a father figure in her life. As you can see, we are two individuals with a lot of issues growing up.

When we got together, we had a rough time of trying to adapt to each other expectation. She was very sensitive with the words that come out from me and who I hang out with. Me on the other hand was very insecure because of the lack of family connection. When we quarreled, I would throw harsh words to her which I dont mean it. Subconsciously, I was behaving like my dad. She on the other hand, set a very high expectation on me. A lot of time, I find her comparing me with her cousin, her brother in law which seemed unfair for me because she was taking everyone's strength and comparing it with me. So as mentioned previously, most of my closest friend are female and this is something she struggle to accept. These are friends I have known since I was 7. I have very close guy friends but they are all married with kids so we don't hang out that much now. I tried inviting her to our outings to show her there was nothing between us but she just could not fully accept this. She initiated a break up in March as she thought that we are world's apart but we instead of breaking up, we had a cooling period for 3 weeks before patching up again. I made adjustments for her. I tried to keep a distance from my girl friends as I know she is sensitive in this area too. We only met up on special occasions and I always brought her along. This is the girl I wanna stay forever with so I was willing to make some sacrifices along the way.We manage to iron the differences and stick with each other.

Another issue we had was physical intimacy. We both agreed not to have pre-marital sex and I respected her decision in this. We never went across each other necks to give you an idea. Although there are times I wish we had more, I never asked her to compromise. However, I did not know that she would even feel guilty from passionate kissing. She only revealed to me after the break up. For me, I told her although I agreed to not having pre-marital sex, I have my needs and desire as a guy and I struggle in them. Few months ago when she was at the crossroad of her career and she always wanted to go overseas to work. I accompanied her to fly to another country to attend an interview and I told her if she got this job and made her decision to come over, I will follow her as well. I was prepared to leave my current job and family to go with her. The reason why I did not plan to work in a bigger city was because of my mom. I don't wanna leave her alone because my sister is already living abroad. But I was prepared to go with her that time. She did not get the job though.

I thought everything was good and all. We even went to a marriage counselling because we are prepared to bring this relationship to another level. In probably August I was searching my chat in her phone and I accidentally found out she was talking with her sister about me. She told her sister she doesn't know how to continue in this relationship. She mentioned she was struggling in it. This caught me in a surprise because I really thought everything was good. I was meeting her 6-7 days per week. Basically almost everyday. Either for lunch, dinner or both. And she did not appear like she was having issues in this relationship. When I read the conversation, it was already a week old so I decided not to bring it up to her. I thought she solved it herself already and I was afraid bringing up might give her the chance to initiate break ups. I mean since she did not bring it up to me, I better act as if I did not know about this. Maybe while I was working, I did not reply to her message or sometimes, I will ignore her the entire afternoon. I thought that might be the problem. She was a home baker so she actually had a lot of free times. She was going to start a full time job in September so I thought things will be better once she started working and got busy.

There was this other girl. She was a work acquaintance from a competitor company. We were friends and she was divorced. Initially I tried to talk to her to help her get through her divorce. This was way before I got into this relationship. I had empathy for people going through such heart break because I knew what it felt. So after that, we kinda texted each other every now and then talking about work and what not. It wasn't frequent, probably once every month or so. I had no feelings for her but in September, she got bold suddenly. She started sending me photos of her in beach wear. September was a very low period for me because I quit my job over stress, my dog pass away and I had to go for a surgery over my knee. My mistake here is I did not let my gf know how low I was feeling as she was struggling in her new job as it was an entirely new industry for her. I did not want to add over to her stress. I know I had no excuse for doing what I did. But I did it. Maybe I was desperate for sexual gratification. I said things that I should not be saying to another girl when she sent her photos over. It happened over a week and I cut it off. There were not nudes or nothing physical involved. I thought it was harmless because it was pleasure to my eyes and I would never do anything more than that. This girl is staying in a different city.

My ex found out when she stayed over with me in the hospital. She could not accept this betrayal. I admitted and took 100% responsibility that it was my mistake. I fell into a temptation that I should not have. I was weak and I lost my self control. I pleaded my case and asked her to extend grace to me and give me another chance but she told me this was too much to take. I shattered her trust and destroyed her self esteem. Of course when she doesnt trust me, everything sounded like a lie. I told her if she needs to believe one thing, please believe me when I said it was not her problem. It was mine. I dont want her to think that she did not do enough in this relationship and her shortfall caused me to do whatever I did.

It has been 2 weeks. The last time we spoke on the phone, I told her I will be praying for her recovery. I told her I will be reflecting on my action and repent hard. This is a reminder to me what damage sin of lust could do and I will bring this lesson into marriage. We will not be contacting one another because she needs to rebuild herself back and any contact with me will only remind her of the terrible things I did. For myself, I have to go back to God and sort myself out. I asked to to pray for our relationship too. Put our relationship at the corner of her heart. It will not be the focus for her right now so keep it in the corner. If our relationship is God's will, He will bring us back to one another regardless how long we need to take. I want her back. Of course I do. But I have accepted for this moment, I need to let her go.

You know I always wanted my own family because I thought I havent had a good childhood growing up. Family was almost non existant for me. My dream was to have my own family and I would give my children whatever I was lacking off. Ironically, I ruined my own dream and cost us both our future together. I dont know how will I ever forgive myself. She told me she doesn't hate me and she forgive me for what I did. She just cannot stay around in this relationship anymore. Each time I felt depressed and broken, I reminded myself she is probably having it worse than me. Very often I asked God why the punishment for my sin comes with such a big price to pay. But I am totally aware that I made a huge mistake in life and I just have to carry this consequences with me.

So this is basically my story.

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So this is basically my story.
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A lot to digest, I will think about it

On the surface it looks like you basically have girl problem and don't have any family support to turn to

However, you also mentioned dissatisfaction with career in earlier posts?

If you want serious counselling though you should know, with so many stars, that /k is not the answer

There are a couple of solid dudes in the Serious /K Christian Fellowship thread you should refer to
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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:26 AM)
A lot to digest, I will think about it

On the surface it looks like you basically have girl problem and don't have any family support to turn to

However, you also mentioned dissatisfaction with career in earlier posts?

If you want serious counselling though you should know, with so many stars, that /k is not the answer

There are a couple of solid dudes in the Serious /K Christian Fellowship thread you should refer to
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Oh I actually dont know about this. I know /k not my answer but its most active and I only wanna talk to people.

Yeap not satisfied with my job which pays a lot but I resigned from it already.
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So this is basically my story.
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I'm not a counsellor or whatever here, but please, try and win your ex back. Hell you even meet with marriage counsellor already.
Don't waste it. Do whatever it takes. Show to her that you've changed, do whatever it takes to make her happy.

I dont know man but that's what's love all about.
And from my gut, she's the one. Earn her back as hard as you can.
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I'm not a counsellor or whatever here, but please, try and win your ex back. Hell you even meet with marriage counsellor already.
Don't waste it. Do whatever it takes. Show to her that you've changed, do whatever it takes to make her happy.

I dont know man but that's what's love all about.
And from my gut, she's the one. Earn her back as hard as you can.
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I'm surprise you did not condemn me. Each time I imagine telling others what I have done, I imagine people would condemn me straight.

Thanks bro. Really thanks.
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I'm surprise you did not condemn me. Each time I imagine telling others what I have done, I imagine people would condemn me straight.

Thanks bro. Really thanks.
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Dude you know what, as a guy, i know that desire. That testosterone drive that pursue you to do that.

Since you're already anon here, to be honest, what were you saying in the text and conversation that you had with the girl that sent you the picture?
Is it crazily sex stuff or what?
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Maybe, or maybe sending his old man for checkup, ppum medical fee is cheap..

Anyhow, stay strong.. we all made mistake at some point.. please don't be hard on yourself...
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I just type this somewhere. Here you go.

I grew up in a strict family. My dad was a disciplinarian. Typical Asian dad who put a lot of emphasis on my studies. Whenever my grades were bad, I was caned and hit. I would not said that he physically abuse me but yeah, this was his way of making sure I excel in my studies. He was really this strict to me and my sister. It was harsh love growing up. My dad was uneducated so he wanted us not to follow him. I knew he did all these because he love us but its just the way he did all this was harsh. I learnt all the curse words from him which says a lot. However, my dad provided well for the family in term of resources. We were never financially lacking and he gave us the best that he could.

When I was 12, my dad was diagnosed with cancer and he left us after 2 years battling with the illness. It was a very devastating period for me and my family. The good thing is that he accepted Christ during his sickness. Though I went to church since young, our family was never a Christian family. So after he left, I went into a rebel mode. My mom could never control me because I was never scared of her. I was scared of my dad. My grades dipped dramatically and a lot of shit happened to me during that time. My dad left use a huge house before he left which was fully paid off. My mom's brother persuaded her to turn this house into mortgage to raise funds for his new business venture. My mom did and long story short, the business failed and we had to sell off the house because we could not afford paying the monthly loan. This was the main reason why my relationship with my mom became really bad. We stop talking for like more than a year because that time I was angry at her for losing our house. We had to rent from one house to another. My sister got a scholarship to study in the States while all these happened so she was out of the picture for quite a long time.
So basically, my relationship with my family was non-existence. Things have gotten better with my mom but it was never like how it used to be. While we go for dinner together once in a while, I stop telling her my problems. As for my sister, she is living in another city and she has her own life so I won't want to bother her with my problems.

Probably because I grew up in an a female environment, my closest friend are girls as well. I always thought that girls are better listener whom I can share my problems too. Both my closest girl friends have been my friend since 7. I have very close guy friends as well but they are not the kind of people who you would share your problems to. I'm sure they will drag me to the bar and ask me to relax when I share my problems with them. Thing is I don't really like drinking or smoking. But we still hang out over meals and all. I hang out more with my girl friends and over the years, I find it easier to make friend with girls rather than guys. Another thing I find it hard to be close to guys was an experience when I was young. I was 10 or 11 when I joined this camp. I was sexually molested by a guy elder than me when we slept beside each other during the camp. Why I am telling you this is because this became an issue later on.

So I became a serious Christian after my break up in my 2nd relationship. It was a 4 years relationship that crushed me and I had to rely on God that time. It was in the church I met her. She is a very God fearing girl and grew up in a Christian family. She is everything that I am not. The youngest in the family, she is disciplined, her family is soft and gentle. However, one thing similar is that she lost her dad when she was young too. Because of this, she grew up having low self esteem and lack of a father figure in her life. As you can see, we are two individuals with a lot of issues growing up.

When we got together, we had a rough time of trying to adapt to each other expectation. She was very sensitive with the words that come out from me and who I hang out with. Me on the other hand was very insecure because of the lack of family connection. When we quarreled, I would throw harsh words to her which I dont mean it. Subconciously, I was behaving like my dad. She on the other hand, set a very high expectation on me. A lot of time, I find her comparing me with her cousin, her brother in law which seemed unfair for me because she was taking everyone's strenght and comparing it with me. Another issue we had was physical intimacy. We both agreed not to have pre-marital sex and I respected her decision in this. We never went across each other necks to give you an idea. Althought there are times I wish we had more, I never asked her to compromise. However, I did not know that she would even feel guilty from passionate kissing. She only revealed to me after the break up. For me, I told her although I agreed to not having pre-marital sex, I have my needs and desire as a guy and I struggle in them. And also, it was because of her, I tried to keep a distance from my girl friends as I know she is sensitive in this area too. We only met up on special occassions and I always brought her along. This is the girl I wanna stay forever with so I was willing to make some sacrifices along the way.We manage to iron the differences and stick with each other. Once example was when she was at the crossroad of her career and she always wanted to go overseas to work. I accompanied her to fly to another country to attend an interview and I told her if she got this job and made her decision to come over, I will follow her as well. I was prepared to leave my current job and family  to go with her. The reason why I did not plan to work in a bigger city was because of my mom. I don't wanna leave her alone because my sister is already living abroad. But I was prepared to go with her that time. She did not get the job though. Everything was good and all. We even went to a marriage counselling because we are prepared to bring this relationship to another level.

There was this other girl. She was a work acquaintance from a competitor company. We were friends and she was divorced. Initially I tried to talk to her to help her get through her divorce. This was way before I got into this relationship. I had empathy for people going through such heart break because I knew what it felt. So after that, we kinda texted each other every now and then talking about work and what not. It wasn't frequent, probably once every month or so. I had no feelings for her but in September, she got bold suddenly. She started sending me photos of her in beach wear. September was a very low period for me because I quit my job over stress, my dog pass away and I had to go for a surgery over my knee. I know I had no excuse for doing what I did. But I did it. Maybe I was desperate for sexual gratification. I said things that I should not be saying to another girl in exchange for more photos. It happened over a week and I cut it off. There were not nudes or nothing physical involved. I thought it was harmless because it was pleasure to my eyes and I would never do anything more than that. This girl is staying in a different city.

My ex found out when she stayed over with me in the hospital. She could not accept this betrayal. I admitted and took 100% responsibility that it was my mistake. I fell into a temptation that I should not have. I was weak and I lost my self control. I pleaded my case and asked her to extend grace to me and give me another chance but she told me this was too much to take. I shattered her trust and destroyed her self esteem. Of course when she doesnt trust me, everything sounded like a lie. I told her if she needs to believe one thing, please believe me when I said it was not her problem. It was mine. I dont want her to think that she did not do enough in this relationship and her shortfall caused me to do whatever I did.

It has been 2 weeks. The last time we spoke on the phone, I told her I will be praying for her recovery. I told her I will be reflecting on my action and repent hard. This is a reminder to me what damage sin of lust could do and I will bring this lesson into marriage. We will not be contacting one another because she needs to rebuild herself back and any contact with me will only remind her of the terrible things I did. For myself, I have to go back to God and sort myself out. I asked to to pray for our relationship too. Put our relationship at the corner of her heart. It will not be the focus for her right now so keep it in the corner. If our relationship is God's will, He will bring us back to one another regardless how long we need to take. I want her back. Of course I do. But I have accepted for this moment, I need to let her go.

You know I always wanted my own family because I thought I havent had a good childhood growing up. Family was almost non existant for me. My dream was to have my own family and I would give my children whatever I was lacking off. Ironically, I ruined my own dream and cost us both our future together. I dont know how will I ever forgive myself. She told me she doesn't hate me and she forgive me for what I did. She just cannot stay around in this relationship anymore. Each time I felt depressed and broken, I reminded myself she is probably having it worse than me. Very often I asked God why the punishment for my sin comes with such a big price to pay. But I am totally aware that I made a huge mistake in life and I just have to carry this consequences with me.

So this is basically my story.
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My life was a fking mess a few years ago. Zero saving, broke up with my ex because of a misunderstanding, dad was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer. Looking back at what happened in those years, there are some precious lessons that I'd learned during that period of time.

1. Friends are really important. I am very thankful to my friends who kept me company every day and night. One of my friends even let me move into his room so that I wouldn't feel lonely and didn't have to spend too much on rental.
2. Sometimes we think that someone is extremely important to us because we WANT to think so. I felt dying when my ex left me. I couldn't sleep well and had nightmares about losing her. The first thing I did when I woke up every morning was to think about our happy memories. 7 months after our breakup, I realized that I didn't miss her that much anymore. Then I found another gf a few months later.
3. My family matters the most to me. When I was having a hard time, my parents, brother, and sisters did their best to help me out. My family members called me almost every night just to talk to me and to share my problems.
4. For everything you lose, you will gain something else. All you need to do is to stay strong and to do your very best.

I am grateful that I pulled myself together. Everything has become so well now.

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QUOTE(ratloverice @ Nov 5 2019, 03:51 AM)
My life was a fking mess a few years ago. Zero saving, broke up with my ex because of a misunderstanding, dad was diagnosed with stage 3 cancer. Looking back at what happened in those years, there are some precious lessons that I'd learned during that period of time.

1. Friends are really important. I am very thankful to my friends who kept me company every day and night. One of my friends even let me move into his room so that I wouldn't feel lonely and didn't have to spend too much on rental.
2. Sometimes we think that someone is extremely important to us because we WANT to think so. I felt dying when my ex left me. I couldn't sleep well and had nightmares about losing her. The first thing I did when I woke up every morning was to think about our happy memories. 7 months after our breakup, I realized that I didn't miss her that much anymore. Then I found another gf a few months later.
3. My family matters the most to me. When I was having a hard time, my parents, brother, and sisters did their best to help me out. My family members called me almost every night just to talk to me and to share my problems.
4. For everything you lose, you will gain something else. All you need to do is to stay strong and to do your very best.

I am grateful that I pulled myself together. Everything has become so well now.
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Reading this made me depressed even more. I didnt even study for today's paper. *sigh.
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Anyone still awake? I just wanna talk cause I'm feeling really depressed right now.
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once I mustered up the courage to call befrienders and no one pick up the call. They are not 24/7 as they've claimed.

Anyway I skimmed thru your story fast, basically tough childhood yada yada yada, one thing lead to another, you did some fked up things leading to your gf left you.

It sounded more like you regret over your past actions and now feeling lonely without her. Usually if you could address the root of your sadness, you'll be able to find solutions as well. Maybe living your best life is a way to redeem/repent over the mistakes you have done in the past, if you can show that to your Ex that'll be the greatest apology you can give. Harm is already done and she can forgive but she can't forgets so you gotta move on.

For now, lets stick to finding new purpose in life such as getting promoted, new hobby and whatever is it that pique your interest the most before concluding you have depression. If all else fails, go consult clinical therapist.
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once I mustered up the courage to call befrienders and no one pick up the call. They are not 24/7 as they've claimed.

Anyway I skimmed thru your story fast, basically tough childhood yada yada yada, one thing lead to another, you did some fked up things leading to your gf left you.

It sounded more like you regret over your past actions and now feeling lonely without her. Usually if you could address the root of your sadness, you'll be able to find solutions as well. Maybe living your best life is a way to redeem/repent over the mistakes you have done in the past, if you can show that to your Ex that'll be the greatest apology you can give. Harm is already done and she can forgive but she can't forgets so you gotta move on.

For now, lets stick to finding new purpose in life such as getting promoted, new hobby and whatever is it that pique your interest the most before concluding you have depression. If all else fails, go consult clinical therapist.
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Yeah called them too but no one pick up.
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Take care bro....

Understand your problem and your mistake does not define you.

The thing you are going through are temporary and will come to pass
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Take care bro....

Understand your problem and your mistake does not define you.

The thing you are going through are temporary and will come to pass
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This really means a lot.

I kept telling her too this mistake does not define who am I. But yeah, no use.
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Yeah totally din sleep last night and now I'm in office. Gonna go have my kopi later and hopefully can take a nap.
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Hi ts, may I ask if u speak Chinese. ( I’m not referring to ur race. wink.gif Stay Anon. ) If u can u can dial up a radio show and chat up the DJ. He’s a quite a good counselor. Let me know n I’ll give u the link here?
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QUOTE(TiramisuCoffee @ Nov 5 2019, 09:52 AM)
Hi ts, may I ask if u speak Chinese. ( I’m not referring to ur race.  wink.gif  Stay Anon. ) If u can u can dial up a radio show and chat up the DJ. He’s a quite a good counselor. Let me know n I’ll give u the link here?
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Yeap I can.

Dial up to the radio show and talk to him? Does this means the conversation will be broadcasted?

Thanks for your kind thought.

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Yeap I can.

Dial up to the radio show and talk to him? Does this means the conversation will be broadcasted?

Thanks for your kind thought.
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Yup will be broadcasted. But if u got really dark secrets, u can also request 2 him x 2 broadcast ur voice live, that he just listen to you on the phone. That way, the audience only gets half the conversation , his replies , well sorta... He has got quite a lot of YouTube podcasts as well, check those out and learn from others cases while waiting for your turn. His Facebook link: https://www.facebook.com/988.Matter/videos/...?type=2&theater


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Yup will be broadcasted. But if u got really dark secrets, u can also request 2 him x 2 broadcast ur voice live, that he just listen to you on the phone. That way, the audience only gets half the conversation , his replies , well sorta... He has got quite a lot of YouTube podcasts as well, check those out and learn from others cases while waiting for your turn. His Facebook link:  https://www.facebook.com/988.Matter/videos/...?type=2&theater
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Dear TS, I’ve read your story.. I must admit, this separation is good for both of you. Both of you are not ready for relationship. You two have to fix you mental and character first before jump into serious relationship. Otherwise you two are gonna hurting each other all the time and end up divorce later. Your father being strict is not an excuse, it takes wisdom to grow up and be a man. 1 more problem that I can spot, religion, be really careful with this card. It’s good to be religious, BUT, do not use your religion as your “easy exit card.” A good person doesn’t count by how many times you read your holy book or how many times you go and pray. A good person is the one who can love and be kind to other as he does to himself. If you couldn’t be kind and love yourself, there’s no point try to love other.
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TS, not sure whether the following advice will be helpful or not, but just to let you know that there are people who are still care of you.

The main issue on your depression, from the basic story, you are putting all the negative parts of your life to justify as reason why you are so down now. It would be good if you can mental break these up into parts, suggest below;

1) Dad & family issues - Those are already history & whatever happens, you will learn that in future once you have a family, you will know how to manage, which is right & wrong. Past is already past & move on. Your mum issue is also the same. Those that have pass, you must learn to let go. Mistake has been done (by others, not you) & live with it. Since you are now provided your ownself, it is possible you will raise up again, just need patience & never give up attitude.

2) Girlfriend & possible flings issue. Feel your ex is too much. She is requesting too much something that not much men can do/pursue when in relationship. Maybe she forgot that all men (& women) are sinners which bound to make mistake. The way she want you to be is unrealistic. Surely during the relationship, you are not yourself & sacrificing in order to satisfy her expectation. This is already a problem in your existing relationship. If this continues, how long you can think you can stand such high standard? Surely 1 day, you will be depress in a long run. She is selfish, man. On the possible flings, she just send you the pictures & flirting. You are not yet married with your ex, so there is still chances to know better girls/options. So no wrong done here.

By reading, feel she will never forgive you & if you still pursue for her acceptance, it will be a long winding road. This, also doesn't mean in the end she will accept. So, you have to ask yourself, do you still want to get back to her & lead back the same lifestyle & entertain her demands same as before?? Suggestion - DUMP HER!!!

3) Working life. It is normal to switch jobs when you are not earning well/feel unappreciated/ better offers outside. As means of surviving, do the jobs that sufficient to provide you on your living. If the current jobs will be help on your career progression, that is a bonus. No rush. Sometimes we need to work just to keep our heads above water.

4) Social circle. Meet up with more people & know more friends, will help to alter your depression issues. Usually when you feel more fortunate compared to those even less fortunate than you. If you want to try, try search & watch youtube on Bersamamu as a start....When you have such feeling, you will feel blessed more. Participate in religion activities & doing public service also provides the same feeling.

All the best there bro!!!!

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Dear TS, I’ve read your story.. I must admit, this separation is good for both of you. Both of you are not ready for relationship. You two have to fix you mental and character first before jump into serious relationship. Otherwise you two are gonna hurting each other all the time and end up divorce later. Your father being strict is not an excuse, it takes wisdom to grow up and be a man. 1 more problem that I can spot, religion, be really careful with this card. It’s good to be religious, BUT, do not use your religion as your “easy exit card.” A good person doesn’t count by how many times you read your holy book or how many times you go and pray. A good person is the one who can love and be kind to other as he does to himself. If you couldn’t be kind and love yourself, there’s no point try to love other.
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Family background is not an excuse for me to do all the mistakes I did. But rather a reason for me to display whatever behaviour I did, which I realise 100% was my fault.

Can you elaborate what do you mean by 'easy exit card'?

It's really hard to love and be kind to myself after I had done such a big mistake. Hopefully, I am able to do so as time goes by.
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QUOTE(kbhai @ Nov 5 2019, 02:55 PM)
TS, not sure whether the following advice will be helpful or not, but just to let you know that there are people who are still care of you.

The main issue on your depression, from the basic story, you are putting all the negative parts of your life to justify as reason why you are so down now. It would be good if you can mental break these up into parts, suggest below;

1) Dad & family issues - Those are already history & whatever happens, you will learn that in future once you have a family, you will know how to manage, which is right & wrong. Past is already past & move on. Your mum issue is also the same. Those that have pass, you must learn to let go. Mistake has been done (by others, not you) & live with it. Since you are now provided your ownself, it is possible you will raise up again, just need patience & never give up attitude.

2) Girlfriend & possible flings issue.  Feel your ex is too much. She is requesting too much something that not much men can do/pursue when in relationship. Maybe she forgot that all men (& women) are sinners which bound to make mistake. The way she want you to be is unrealistic. Surely during the relationship, you are not yourself & sacrificing in order to satisfy her expectation. This is already a problem in your existing relationship. If this continues, how long you can think you can stand such high standard? Surely 1 day, you will be depress in a long run. She is selfish, man. On the possible flings, she just send you the pictures & flirting. You are not yet married with your ex, so there is still chances to know better girls/options. So no wrong done here.

By reading, feel she will never forgive you & if you still pursue for her acceptance, it will be a long winding road. This, also doesn't mean in the end she will accept. So, you have to ask yourself, do you still want to get back to her & lead back the same lifestyle & entertain her demands same as before?? Suggestion - DUMP HER!!!

3) Working life. It is normal to switch jobs when you are not earning well/feel unappreciated/ better offers outside. As means of surviving, do the jobs that sufficient to provide you on your living. If the current jobs will be help on your career progression, that is a bonus. No rush. Sometimes we need to work just to keep our heads above water.

4) Social circle. Meet up with more people & know more friends, will help to alter your depression issues. Usually when you feel more fortunate compared to those even less fortunate than you. If you want to try, try search & watch youtube on Bersamamu as a start....When you have such feeling, you will feel blessed more. Participate in religion activities & doing public service also provides the same feeling.

All the best there bro!!!!
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Understand the part with family issues is what done is done. I just have to move on without bringing my past along with me. It's just something I seriously feel lacking off now. Like I'm feeling depress and there's no family members to turn to. I have to come here for comfort.

Flirting in relationship is so wrong bro. What more got photos involved. Which part do you think she is unrealistic? Saying no to pre-marital sex?

I know she has set a very high standard for me. Sometimes, I also feel like are you seeing me as your father figure or partner? But then, this is not a breaking point for me as I choose to see her good side.

Working life is okay for me. I quit my high paying job because of stress. Stress because it has compromise my integrity. I have my own business now which I set up before I resign as back up. Doing okay, generating way less income then my previous job but still okay to survive with potential to grow. Luckily my business partner is understanding so currently I'm taking my time off.

Right now, maybe still not in the right mind to meet new people. I join cell group, church events and all but no motivation to make any sort of connection with others. At least for the time being.

Appreciate you sharing so much of your thoughts. Reading and thinking what to reply have already cleared up a lot of my self defeating thoughts.
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I'm surprise you did not condemn me. Each time I imagine telling others what I have done, I imagine people would condemn me straight.

Thanks bro. Really thanks.
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Nobody's gonna condemn you. tongue.gif

In times of testing, we need to dig deep. Circumstances are testing grounds. You screwed up royally, so let this incident be a future reminder.

God has set very high standards for His people. I'm also a red-blooded male, so i understand this.

"so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." - 1 Peter 1:7

Trust that the ACL is healing well too


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I wish you all the luck in the world bro. Hope you gf accepts you for who you are. Genuine guys are limited thus you're a limited edition..
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I'm curious why would you think I'mm genuine? Thanks for the well wishes.
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QUOTE(Alan K. @ Nov 5 2019, 05:36 PM)
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. " - John 8:7 

Nobody's gonna condemn you.  tongue.gif

In times of testing, we need to dig deep. Circumstances are testing grounds. You screwed up royally, so let this incident be a future reminder.

God has set very high standards for His people. I'm also a red-blooded male, so i understand this. 

"so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ." - 1 Peter 1:7

Trust that the ACL is healing well too
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Feels like I failed the test miserably bro. Fell into the temptation.

Yeah I understand on the future reminder. Cannot give into our desire so freely.

ACL is recovering well but the least of my concern now.

Thank you.
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To TS, how about watch some TED talks in youtube. For starters, search for Dolph Lundgren Ted talks.
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Not sleeping is not going to help you depression or whatever

Time to find your comfort zone or whatever
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Nov 6 2019, 07:08 AM)
Not sleeping  is not going to help you depression or whatever

Time to find your comfort zone or whatever
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Then can't sleep anymore. Tried gaming and ended up here cause just wanna talk.
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How old are you. I have read your problems and to be honest its not worth losing sleeping over those.

Mayb meet a psychiatrist or something to talk over the issue.

Since you are a religion guy, mayb go over a pastor of someone you are familiar with.

No point just keep praying here and there if you are not going to do anything over it.
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QUOTE(Azurues @ Nov 6 2019, 07:26 AM)
How old are you. I have read your problems and to be honest its not worth losing sleeping over those.

Mayb meet a psychiatrist or something to talk over the issue.

Since you are a religion guy, mayb go over a pastor of someone you are familiar with.

No point just keep praying here and there if you are not going to do anything over it.
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I'm 31. You must be thinking why at the age still can't get over such thing. I think that myself too. Why you think not worth losing sleep over those?

Yeap I got talk to pastor and all. I am trying to move forward but right now, it's hard. It's not like I wish my sleeping pattern and appetite to get messed up. I also wanna be well.
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Family background is not an excuse for me to do all the mistakes I did. But rather a reason for me to display whatever behaviour I did, which I realise 100% was my fault.

Can you elaborate what do you mean by 'easy exit card'?

It's really hard to love and be kind to myself after I had done such a big mistake. Hopefully, I am able to do so as time goes by.
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I wish I could explain in an easier way. Read the story below...

“ I once chatted with a 36-year-old man on the Internet who asked if I would like to see his requirements for a mate and marriage. “Sure,‚” I typed. “Send them over.‚” His request was curious, but I was amused when I received his list for the perfect wife. His criteria for marriage were included in approximately eight e-mails with three to four attachments each. He’d also written an essay describing his perfect mate. She must be afraid of God, active in church, teach their children at home, be attractive, trim and of average height and weight, debt-free, never married, a virgin, she must never have had any venereal diseases and she must be able to give him “wild sex” whenever he asked. Most of all, she must be submissive like his pastor instructed him. Within minutes after reading his list, my “abusive man” detector started blinking wildly. But just to make sure that my suspicions were correct, I asked him a few questions. I discovered that he grew up in a home with an overbearing father who was a perfectionist and a competitive mother who threw things when she was angry and who “was not submissive enough.” He said his parents showed him love by teaching him how to succeed (or, in other words, to be perfect). The wild thing was that he saw nothing wrong with his requirements and even stated that he had once struggled with perfectionism, but had overcome it. I decided to run like the wind. Why? Because even though some of this man’s standards are godly, his rigid rules, with an inability to extend grace, signaled potential control and abuse. His list reminds me of something author Patricia Evans wrote. In The Verbally Abusive Relationship, Evans says that an abusive man(and woman) creates an ideal world that does not exist by forming an image of the perfect man/woman. But when his love interest shows flaws that reveal she is human, he becomes angry because she does not meet his expectations.” ———— sounds pretty much like you?

Now “Easy Exit Card”.. read again all of your statements above.. how many times you and your gf brought religion to justify things, set your expectations high, and forget that you are just a human. Look at How hard you’ve blamed yourself over and over again just for simple things. And the same standards that you put on yourself would be the standard that you forced on your closest one. I call it religious abuse / Easy Exit Card, in the name of God to justify whatever action, situation, and expectation you put on others. Sadly, You might learn the doctrine, go to church, set your expectations as high as the sky, but you have failed to understand the true meaning of a believer.. He’s a saviour for everybody who believes in Him, regardless... He’s the truly example of love, forgiveness, and life.. You don’t have to be a saint, be a human with humanity First.. fill your life with kindness, mercy and sympathy. Surender to your God instead of fight back... Accepting The flaws instead of complaining.. Just like How Your God sacrificed for you, although you are unworthy... As a religious person who believe in heaven after life, you already know that no matter how hard you pray, beg, read your bible etc etc.. it ain’t get you there.. You will get there by His Grace..

“For it is by grace you have been saved (Ephesians 2:8)”

It’s by Grace! For God Sake, If you have received His Grace, how could you forget to be graceful instead of forced your expectations on one another?

Easy Exit Card = Judgement = immaturity

Don’t use religion to justify your own behaviour, punishment, or pushed others down as if religion is an answer and exit card to every problems.

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And based on how you described both of you (you+your gf), it’s a relationship where both of you actually had a very low chances to grow. You guys might have faith, but you have a very small hope, and most importantly both of you left behind the love.


“And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. (1 Corinthians 13:13, NKJV)”.

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” (Cor 13:13)

After you read this.. think again.. do your gf really loves you? Do you really love your gf? Because all that I know, if both of you truly love each other’s, all the problems above would’ve never happened.

The truth is both of you never truly love each other, You just didn't want to be alone. Or maybe, she was good for your ego and you were good for hers. Or, maybe you made her feel better about her miserable life, but I doubt that she truly loves you and you truly loves her, because we don't give up to the person that we love.

My advice,

1. Be a positive person first. Find a psychologist to help you reshape the characters and dealing with your past, set yourself free.

2. Learn to Love yourself first before love others


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#I’m not persuade anyone into any specific religion.
#To other fanatic Chr*st*an members, don’t bother to attack me/persuade me/advice me regarding tarot, divination, and my faith in the universe. I’ve completed my theology, I’m not interested in debate and arguments.
#All religion essentially Good, it’s the human who often taking advantage in the name of religion.
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QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Nov 6 2019, 10:49 AM)
I wish I could explain in an easier way. Read the story below...

“ I once chatted with a 36-year-old man on the Internet who asked if I would like to see his requirements for a mate and marriage. “Sure,‚” I typed. “Send them over.‚” His request was curious, but I was amused when I received his list for the perfect wife. His criteria for marriage were included in approximately eight e-mails with three to four attachments each. He’d also written an essay describing his perfect mate. She must be afraid of God, active in church, teach their children at home, be attractive, trim and of average height and weight, debt-free, never married, a virgin, she must never have had any venereal diseases and she must be able to give him “wild sex” whenever he asked. Most of all, she must be submissive like his pastor instructed him. Within minutes after reading his list, my “abusive man” detector started blinking wildly. But just to make sure that my suspicions were correct, I asked him a few questions. I discovered that he grew up in a home with an overbearing father who was a perfectionist and a competitive mother who threw things when she was angry and who “was not submissive enough.” He said his parents showed him love by teaching him how to succeed (or, in other words, to be perfect). The wild thing was that he saw nothing wrong with his requirements and even stated that he had once struggled with perfectionism, but had overcome it. I decided to run like the wind. Why? Because even though some of this man’s standards are godly, his rigid rules, with an inability to extend grace, signaled potential control and abuse. His list reminds me of something author Patricia Evans wrote. In The Verbally Abusive Relationship, Evans says that an abusive man(and woman) creates an ideal world that does not exist by forming an image of the perfect man/woman. But when his love interest shows flaws that reveal she is human, he becomes angry because she does not meet his expectations.” ———— sounds pretty much like you?
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Erm no. I did not abuse her because she show flaws.

QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Nov 6 2019, 10:49 AM)
Now “Easy Exit Card”.. read again all of your statements above.. how many times you and your gf brought religion to justify things, set your expectations high, and forget that you are just a human. Look at How hard you’ve blamed yourself over and over again just for simple things. And the same standards that you put on yourself would be the standard that you forced on your closest one. I call it religious abuse / Easy Exit Card, in the name of God to justify whatever action, situation, and expectation you put on others. Sadly, You might learn the doctrine, go to church, set your expectations as high as the sky, but you have failed to understand the true meaning of a believer.. He’s a saviour for everybody who believes in Him, regardless... He’s the truly example of love, forgiveness, and life.. You don’t have to be a saint, be a human with humanity First.. fill your life with kindness, mercy and sympathy. Surender to your God instead of fight back... Accepting The flaws instead of complaining.. Just like How Your God sacrificed for you, although you are unworthy... As a religious person who believe in heaven after life, you already know that no matter how hard you pray, beg, read your bible etc etc.. it ain’t get you there.. You will get there by His Grace..


Easy Exit Card = Judgement = immaturity

Don’t use religion to justify your own behaviour, punishment, or pushed others down as if religion is an answer and exit card to every problems.
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But I did not use religion to justify my actions? What I did was wrong with or without involving religion. I own up to my own mistake. I blamed myself over and over again, yes. I get your point that I have to surrender and move forward from my mistake because God has already extend His grace for me but its really a case of easier said than done.

QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Nov 6 2019, 10:49 AM)
And based on how you described both of you (you+your gf), it’s a relationship where both of you actually had a very low chances to grow. You guys might have faith, but you have a very small hope, and most importantly both of you left behind the love.
“And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love. (1 Corinthians 13:13, NKJV)”.

“Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” (Cor 13:13)

After you read this.. think again.. do your gf really loves you? Do you really love your gf? Because all that I know, if both of you truly love each other’s, all the problems above would’ve  never happened.

The truth is both of you never truly love each other, You just didn't want to be alone. Or maybe, she was good for your ego and you were good for hers. Or, maybe you made her feel better about her miserable life, but I doubt that she truly loves you and you truly loves her, because we don't give up to the person that we love.
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I know its ironic. To say I love her and having did such mistake. I feel like you assume a lot of things on your own. You cant just assume and say I got together with her because I did not want to be alone. She was good for my ego and all.

QUOTE(ladytarot99 @ Nov 6 2019, 10:49 AM)
My advice,

1. Be a positive person first. Find a psychologist to help you reshape the characters and dealing with your past, set yourself free.

2. Learn to Love yourself first before love others

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Love yourself first before you love others might be the thing everyone knows and yet cannot achieve it. But yeah, sorting out my issues through religion. Though some part I disagree, thanks for sharing.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 6 2019, 11:36 AM)
Erm no. I did not abuse her because she show flaws.
But I did not use religion to justify my actions? What I did was wrong with or without involving religion. I own up to my own mistake. I blamed myself over and over again, yes. I get your point that I have to surrender and move forward from my mistake because God has already extend His grace for me but its really a case of easier said than done.
I know its ironic. To say I love her and having did such mistake. I feel like you assume a lot of things on your own. You cant just assume and say I got together with her because I did not want to be alone. She was good for my ego and all.
Love yourself first before you love others might be the thing everyone knows and yet cannot achieve it. But yeah, sorting out my issues through religion. Though some part I disagree, thanks for sharing.
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It’s not only about you (religiously)abuse her lehhh, I give you an example already lah, it works both ways... she’s also abuse you.. regretting kissing, and bla bla bla in the name of religion to make you feel bad.. or whatsoever.. read again my reply tonight, when you are calm and sound..

It’s not an assumption, it’s the truth.. you are just afraid to be alone.. she’s good for your ego and you are good for her ego..
If she’s truly love you, she won’t give up on you, and you wouldn’t hurt her or take any advantage of her. A pure love, left no regrets... If you are truly loves her, you will be happy to see her happy, love is giving, without any expectation to get it back.

By the way, yesterday I open my cards, and your Cards is The Devil + The tower + The Lover. And it’s an unhealthy relationship in whatever means. Please seek professional help.. Life is just too beautiful, don’t miss it just because you can’t handle your dirty laundry properly.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 6 2019, 11:36 AM)
Erm no. I did not abuse her because she show flaws.

But I did not use religion to justify my actions? What I did was wrong with or without involving religion. I own up to my own mistake. I blamed myself over and over again, yes. I get your point that I have to surrender and move forward from my mistake because God has already extend His grace for me but its really a case of easier said than done.

I know its ironic. To say I love her and having did such mistake. I feel like you assume a lot of things on your own. You cant just assume and say I got together with her because I did not want to be alone. She was good for my ego and all.

Love yourself first before you love others might be the thing everyone knows and yet cannot achieve it. But yeah, sorting out my issues through religion. Though some part I disagree, thanks for sharing.
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....... For the guide to holy living(= will be blessed by God with a good and long life on earth} and the straight/narrow way to the kingdom of heaven, Christians are to only consult the Bible/Word of God as recorded by His prophets/apostles, pastors, teachers and fellow Christians.
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I have seen with my own eyes, a demon-possessed/schizophreniac lady who had consulted a bomoh to get rid of the mistress of her rich husband. Ended up with her husband going bankrupt and she going crazy. You never know when the demon would come to possess her.
....... Another guy used bomoh chanting and scent-smoke powers to mesmerize pretty girls into bed = he ended up crazy/schizophreniac as well.
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It's just hard. I lie on the bed in my room whole day. I have no one to talk to. And I'd imagine if I reach out to people, they'll tell me I go what I deserve. I can only cry silently because I'm afraid my mom would hear it. I think of what I've done and the pain I put her through. I felt even bad. She did not do anything to deserve what she was being put through. I wanna reach out but I cant. I cant do anything besides coming here to seek attention. I pray if heaven if a place where there is not suffering, God please bring me there. I thought of ending my life but then it will not be good for her and my family. I'm such a failure in life.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 6 2019, 11:31 PM)
It's just hard. I lie on the bed in my room whole day. I have no one to talk to. And I'd imagine if I reach out to people, they'll tell me I go what I deserve. I can only cry silently because I'm afraid my mom would hear it. I think of what I've done and the pain I put her through. I felt even bad. She did not do anything to deserve what she was being put through. I wanna reach out but I cant. I cant do anything besides coming here to seek attention. I pray if heaven if a place where there is not suffering, God please bring me there. I thought of ending my life but then it will not be good for her and my family. I'm such a failure in life.
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that is 1 long story. Nothing you can do to change what you did. Trust me, Happened to me recently too. And it was way way worse then what you did.

Ending your life is never a solution, you may think it will cure everything but what you are doing is just making it worse for people around you.

First step is to own your mistakes and move on. Look at the future, look at the bright side. You may think there is nothing else out in the world that can make you happy but keep searching for someone that can share your problems and talk. Just remember, killing yourself only is never the answer...
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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 6 2019, 11:56 PM)
that is 1 long story. Nothing you can do to change what you did. Trust me, Happened to me recently too. And it was way way worse then what you did.

Ending your life is never a solution, you may think it will cure everything but what you are doing is just making it worse for people around you.

First step is to own your mistakes and move on. Look at the future, look at the bright side. You may think there is nothing else out in the world that can make you happy but keep searching for someone that can share your problems and talk. Just remember, killing yourself only is never the answer...
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I know so thats what stopping me from doing it.

What did you do?
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Good night son,

Slim chance for her to give u second chance without doing anything.

How about try to do something the gain her back which might slightly neutralized the guilt you have done?
Trust me, she will not voluntarily approach you and tell u she is fine already and ready to continue the relationship.

Give 1 last try and move on, don't give yourself false hope without doing anything and depend/blaming your beliefs to bring her back.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Nov 7 2019, 12:27 AM)
Good night son,

Slim chance for her to give u second chance without doing anything.

How about try to do something the gain her back which might slightly neutralized the guilt you have done?
Trust me, she will not voluntarily approach you and tell u she is fine already and ready to continue the relationship.

Give 1 last try and move on, don't give yourself false hope without doing anything and depend/blaming your beliefs to bring her back.
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Yeap. I plan to reconnect after few weeks. I need to give her time to heal first at least.

What do you advise to do something?
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I know so thats what stopping me from doing it.

What did you do?
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I moved on, i was depressed, i was sad. There was so much going on but I took some time off, went out for some alone time to gather my thoughts and I kept thinking if I made the right choice even to this day. But in the end, I made a choice, made a mistake and destroyed some stuff otw but I moved on and swore never to make the same mistake again
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QUOTE(killerpigglet @ Nov 7 2019, 12:46 AM)
I moved on, i was depressed, i was sad. There was so much going on but I took some time off, went out for some alone time to gather my thoughts and I kept thinking if I made the right choice even to this day. But in the end, I made a choice, made a mistake and destroyed some stuff otw but I moved on and swore never to make the same mistake again
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Will you mind sharing what mistake have you done? How did you make peace with the mistake?

Because I think my struggle now is the mistake for what I have done. Can't seem to get over it and forgive myself.
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Will you mind sharing what mistake have you done? How did you make peace with the mistake?

Because I think my struggle now is the mistake for what I have done. Can't seem to get over it and forgive myself.
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I think you already know the answer and it's to forgive yourself - this is always the first step to recovery. Different injuries will take different amount of time to heal and unfortunately, emotional injuries usually takes much more longer.

If connecting with God helps, then you will need to identify and spend more time in the related pathway ie for some is listening to music, some is go around looking at nature, etc. ... in short, spend more time in your pathway

Seven Pathways

Also, maybe reading some of these articles by John Maxwell on Failing Forward might be helpful and give you some refreshing insights:
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 7 2019, 12:48 AM)
Will you mind sharing what mistake have you done? How did you make peace with the mistake?

Because I think my struggle now is the mistake for what I have done. Can't seem to get over it and forgive myself.
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Well this happened quite recently, few months ago to be exact. My friend introduce this girl to us during gaming couple months back. We played a few weeks without interacting at all so it was all good. Until one day, I went and say Hi and it all fell apart. We clicked instantly, flirted on the 2nd day heavily. I have a gf btw and we were tgt for 4 years. So, after that, for 4 months straight without stop, we played every single day, text 24/7 only resting when we sleep, talked till she fell asleep and more. Even when we met a few times, it was like a fairy tale... She knew I had a gf but kept with it until she couldnt stand it. For 2 months, we argued everyday about our relationship, and asking whether I should pick one or the other. At this point, we were both liked each other very much and I was very very deep in. I was in a dilemma. I love my gf but I really want her more so I thought about it for some time... N decided to stop seeing her cause I picked my gf at that moment. Mind you, this was going on when I was with my gf, but we never did anything more then that. Besides talking, sending me pictures of her everyday and lots of talking. We argued, fought and had a massive fight until we couldn't be friends anymore... My gf found out and I told her some of it not fully, and you can guess she was pissed af too. After a few days, i managed to calm my gf down and took some time alone to think. It was so messy and ruined alot of relationships. Got more additional story including my friends that game with us but that would add this story to more paragraphs but tldr is I fked up, fell for another girl and had to admit my mistakes and moved on.
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Well this happened quite recently, few months ago to be exact. My friend introduce this girl to us during gaming couple months back. We played a few weeks without interacting at all so it was all good. Until one day, I went and say Hi and it all fell apart. We clicked instantly, flirted on the 2nd day heavily. I have a gf btw and we were tgt for 4 years. So, after that, for 4 months straight without stop, we played every single day, text 24/7 only resting when we sleep, talked till she fell asleep and more. Even when we met a few times, it was like a fairy tale... She knew I had a gf but kept with it until she couldnt stand it. For 2 months, we argued everyday about our relationship, and asking whether I should pick one or the other. At this point, we were both liked each other very much and I was very very deep in. I was in a dilemma. I love my gf but I really want her more so I thought about it for some time... N decided to stop seeing her cause I picked my gf at that moment. Mind you, this was going on when I was with my gf, but we never did anything more then that. Besides talking, sending me pictures of her everyday and lots of talking. We argued, fought and had a massive fight until we couldn't be friends anymore... My gf found out and I told her some of it not fully, and you can guess she was pissed af too. After a few days, i managed to calm my gf down and took some time alone to think. It was so messy and ruined alot of relationships. Got more additional story including my friends that game with us but that would add this story to more paragraphs but tldr is I fked up, fell for another girl and had to admit my mistakes and moved on.
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Yeah shit like that happen and something I swear we guys are powerless though we know its wrong. Did your gf come back to you?
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QUOTE(cameradude @ Nov 7 2019, 01:02 AM)
I think you already know the answer and it's to forgive yourself - this is always the first step to recovery. Different injuries will take different amount of time to heal and unfortunately, emotional injuries usually takes much more longer.

If connecting with God helps, then you will need to identify and spend more time in the related pathway ie for some is listening to music, some is go around looking at nature, etc. ... in short, spend more time in your pathway

Seven Pathways

Also, maybe reading some of these articles by John Maxwell on Failing Forward might be helpful and give you some refreshing insights:
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At the same time also did a mistake that cause my other half to leave me. So all at once. Can't forgive myself. And when I lose her, it's like losing a direction in life.
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U just need time, thats all. So dont worry.Just brace yourself, time will heal you

We are all alsoe have experience the bad n stress.....but it will resolve spontaneouly witrh time
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Yeah shit like that happen and something I swear we guys are powerless though we know its wrong. Did your gf come back to you?
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yup. patched things up but damage ald done dy. It was entirely avoidable and I feel horrible to this day. But the worse thing i feel is, I feel bad for the girl then my own gf. I cant help it. But thats the gist la, n I hurt a few friends along the way as well
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So basically, she left you because u flirted with another girl in virtual world?
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U just need time, thats all. So dont worry.Just brace yourself, time will heal you

We are all alsoe have experience the bad n stress.....but it will resolve spontaneouly witrh time
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yup. patched things up but damage ald done dy. It was entirely avoidable and I feel horrible to this day. But the worse thing i feel is, I feel bad for the girl then my own gf. I cant help it. But thats the gist la, n I hurt a few friends along the way as well
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But at least good for you, you did not lose the relationship.

Are you working to reconcile the lost friendship?

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Read p4

So basically, she left you because u flirted with another girl in virtual world?
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Yeah something like that. The girl also sent revealing photos.
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Yeah something like that. The girl also sent revealing photos.
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Jokes aside.. you ever thought of meeting up with her and doing stuffs?
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I grew up in a strict family. My dad was a disciplinarian. Typical Asian dad who put a lot of emphasis on my studies. Whenever my grades were bad, I was caned and hit. I would not said that he physically abuse me but yeah, this was his way of making sure I excel in my studies. He was really this strict to me and my sister. It was harsh love growing up. My dad was uneducated so he wanted us not to follow him. I knew he did all these because he love us but its just the way he did all this was harsh. I learnt all the curse words from him which says a lot. However, my dad provided well for the family in term of resources. We were never financially lacking and he gave us the best that he could.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
So basically, my relationship with my family was non-existence. Things have gotten better with my mom but it was never like how it used to be. While we go for dinner together once in a while, I stop telling her my problems. As for my sister, she is living in another city and she has her own life so I won't want to bother her with my problems.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
So I became a serious Christian after my break up in my 2nd relationship. It was a 4 years relationship that crushed me and I had to rely on God that time. It was in the church I met her. She is a very God fearing girl and grew up in a Christian family. She is everything that I am not. The youngest in the family, she is disciplined, her family is soft and gentle. However, one thing similar is that she lost her dad when she was young too. Because of this, she grew up having low self esteem and lack of a father figure in her life. As you can see, we are two individuals with a lot of issues growing up.
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Hmm. I'm not sure whether you became a better Christian just to impress her or you're your heart is with God. But anyway, if you were dating a Christian girl especially one who takes her faith seriously (growing up in a Christian family), you should know pre-marital sex is already out of the question. I don't know how old are you but usually Christians date if they are ready for marriage.

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
There was this other girl. She was a work acquaintance from a competitor company. We were friends and she was divorced. Initially I tried to talk to her to help her get through her divorce. This was way before I got into this relationship. I had empathy for people going through such heart break because I knew what it felt. So after that, we kinda texted each other every now and then talking about work and what not. It wasn't frequent, probably once every month or so. I had no feelings for her but in September, she got bold suddenly. She started sending me photos of her in beach wear. September was a very low period for me because I quit my job over stress, my dog pass away and I had to go for a surgery over my knee. I know I had no excuse for doing what I did. But I did it. Maybe I was desperate for sexual gratification. I said things that I should not be saying to another girl in exchange for more photos. It happened over a week and I cut it off. There were not nudes or nothing physical involved. I thought it was harmless because it was pleasure to my eyes and I would never do anything more than that. This girl is staying in a different city.
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Whoa there... You do know that it's a sin to marry a divorcee right? Hooking up with one even leading to marriage is a no-no unless her divorce was because her spouse cheated.
I hope you are not just Christian just to date the first girl.

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
My ex found out when she stayed over with me in the hospital. She could not accept this betrayal. I admitted and took 100% responsibility that it was my mistake. I fell into a temptation that I should not have. I was weak and I lost my self control. I pleaded my case and asked her to extend grace to me and give me another chance but she told me this was too much to take. I shattered her trust and destroyed her self esteem. Of course when she doesnt trust me, everything sounded like a lie. I told her if she needs to believe one thing, please believe me when I said it was not her problem. It was mine. I dont want her to think that she did not do enough in this relationship and her shortfall caused me to do whatever I did.
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I have heard of a Christian girl who was about to get married and suddenly her fiancee cheated.
You really need to ask yourself why do you want to get into a relationship. Also, what is your purpose of marriage?
If it's just to satisfy your lust, you should think again. Also, do think properly whether you want to take the faith seriously or not before marrying a Christian girl because most of them have high expectations of what they want in a 'Godly' man. Mismatch in levels of faith can also lead to divorce.

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
You know I always wanted my own family because I thought I havent had a good childhood growing up. Family was almost non existant for me. My dream was to have my own family and I would give my children whatever I was lacking off. Ironically, I ruined my own dream and cost us both our future together. I dont know how will I ever forgive myself. She told me she doesn't hate me and she forgive me for what I did. She just cannot stay around in this relationship anymore. Each time I felt depressed and broken, I reminded myself she is probably having it worse than me. Very often I asked God why the punishment for my sin comes with such a big price to pay. But I am totally aware that I made a huge mistake in life and I just have to carry this consequences with me.
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God doesn't punish people for sins. What really happened was just a consequences of your actions. Think with your head not your ....

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
So this is basically my story.
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Everyone makes mistakes. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," -Romans 3:23
However, the good news is the door is always open as long as we choose to turn away from sin.

If I were you, I will cut contact with the second girl and use the time to fix myself before getting into a relationship.

Last word of advice for you is to get a good health insurance with high coverage because you have a possibility of falling ill due to hereditary diseases.
Please listen to this advice because it's important. You don't want to be broke and have cancer at the same time.

Get well TS! Hope to hear some updates in future. If you really need someone to talk to just drop me a message.
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)

Hmm. I'm not sure whether you became a better Christian just to impress her or you're your heart is with God. But anyway, if you were dating a Christian girl especially one who takes her faith seriously (growing up in a Christian family), you should know pre-marital sex is already out of the question. I don't know how old are you but usually Christians date if they are ready for marriage.
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Thanks for breaking my story 1 by 1.

Nope I did not become a better Christian just to impress her. I was actually a Christian since I was young because my dad, when he got cancer, he was somehow converted and turn Christian so our whole family follow suit. However, I really become a serious Christian after my 2nd relationship. It was then in church when serving I met her. I'm 31 and yeah, we agreed to date with the goal of marriage. We knew each other 3 years before we got together which means I chased her for 3 years.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
Whoa there... You do know that it's a sin to marry a divorcee right? Hooking up with one even leading to marriage is a no-no unless her divorce was because her spouse cheated.
I hope you are not just Christian just to date the first girl.

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I never wanted to marry that girl. It was just a moment of lust or maybe desperation. I have zero feelings for her.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
I have heard of a Christian girl who was about to get married and suddenly her fiancee cheated.
You really need to ask yourself why do you want to get into a relationship. Also, what is your purpose of marriage?
If it's just to satisfy your lust, you should think again. Also, do think properly whether you want to take the faith seriously or not before marrying a Christian girl because most of them have high expectations of what they want in a 'Godly' man. Mismatch in levels of faith can also lead to divorce.

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I know where you are coming from. That is why this mistake is so so hard to swallow.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
God doesn't punish people for sins. What really happened was just a consequences of your actions. Think with your head not your ....
Everyone makes mistakes. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," -Romans 3:23
However, the good news is the door is always open as long as we choose to turn away from sin.
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For that moment, I did not think with my head. I know. I enjoy the lust though I know its wrong. I hated myself for that.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
If I were you, I will cut contact with the second girl and use the time to fix myself before getting into a relationship.

Last word of advice for you is to get a good health insurance with high coverage because you have a possibility of falling ill due to hereditary diseases.
Please listen to this advice because it's important. You don't want to be broke and have cancer at the same time.

Get well TS! Hope to hear some updates in future. If you really need someone to talk to just drop me a message.
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Cut contact with second girl? Second girl being my ex or the other girl on text? If its the other girl, of course I deleted her and block her from all channels already.

Thanks for your advise! For everything. For willing to talk to me. I will pm you if I need you.

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)

Hmm. I'm not sure whether you became a better Christian just to impress her or you're your heart is with God. But anyway, if you were dating a Christian girl especially one who takes her faith seriously (growing up in a Christian family), you should know pre-marital sex is already out of the question. I don't know how old are you but usually Christians date if they are ready for marriage.
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Thanks for breaking my story 1 by 1.

Nope I did not become a better Christian just to impress her. I was actually a Christian since I was young because my dad, when he got cancer, he was somehow converted and turn Christian so our whole family follow suit. However, I really become a serious Christian after my 2nd relationship. It was then in church when serving I met her. I'm 31 and yeah, we agreed to date with the goal of marriage. We knew each other 3 years before we got together which means I chased her for 3 years.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
Whoa there... You do know that it's a sin to marry a divorcee right? Hooking up with one even leading to marriage is a no-no unless her divorce was because her spouse cheated.
I hope you are not just Christian just to date the first girl.

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I never wanted to marry that girl. It was just a moment of lust or maybe desperation. I have zero feelings for her.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
I have heard of a Christian girl who was about to get married and suddenly her fiancee cheated.
You really need to ask yourself why do you want to get into a relationship. Also, what is your purpose of marriage?
If it's just to satisfy your lust, you should think again. Also, do think properly whether you want to take the faith seriously or not before marrying a Christian girl because most of them have high expectations of what they want in a 'Godly' man. Mismatch in levels of faith can also lead to divorce.

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I know where you are coming from. That is why this mistake is so so hard to swallow.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
God doesn't punish people for sins. What really happened was just a consequences of your actions. Think with your head not your ....
Everyone makes mistakes. "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God," -Romans 3:23
However, the good news is the door is always open as long as we choose to turn away from sin.
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For that moment, I did not think with my head. I know. I enjoy the lust though I know its wrong. I hated myself for that.

QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Nov 7 2019, 02:06 AM)
If I were you, I will cut contact with the second girl and use the time to fix myself before getting into a relationship.

Last word of advice for you is to get a good health insurance with high coverage because you have a possibility of falling ill due to hereditary diseases.
Please listen to this advice because it's important. You don't want to be broke and have cancer at the same time.

Get well TS! Hope to hear some updates in future. If you really need someone to talk to just drop me a message.
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Cut contact with second girl? Second girl being my ex or the other girl on text? If its the other girl, of course I deleted her and block her from all channels already.

Thanks for your advise! For everything. For willing to talk to me. I will pm you if I need you.

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Cut contact with second girl? Second girl being my ex or the other girl on text? If its the other girl, of course I deleted her and block her from all channels already.
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Your work acquaintance. Great work! thumbsup.gif

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I hated myself for that.
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Don't hate yourself anymore. Learn to forgive yourself just as God has forgiven you. wink.gif
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Your work acquaintance. Great work! thumbsup.gif
Don't hate yourself anymore. Learn to forgive yourself just as God has forgiven you.  wink.gif
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It's hard. I breakdown every night thinking of the whole incident. It gets worse when I feel my gf is suffering more than me. I know I have to stand up, to build myself back.

I know either to move on with life or to get my gf back, there is only one way. To live my life well to show my repentance. To build my relationship back with God.

I plan to stop contacting with her for 2 weeks and then reach out. Hopefully by a month after the incident, she will soften down her heart.
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Another sleepless night....
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".....There were not nudes or nothing physical involved"
"..... nudes or nothing physical involved"
".....nothing physical"

What job did you have before, the general scope of ?

Im sorry but I cant help but feel insulted with you holding yourself in such high regard/esteem.

Can you say you're well read in world history ? By what measure are you judging yourself by .. you're already in the top 1% saints, I do not understand the depression. I know it feels shitty after realizing demoralizing things you've done, maybe just don't do it again ? or dwell on it too much ?

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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Nov 7 2019, 06:33 AM)
".....There were not nudes or nothing physical involved"
"..... nudes or nothing physical involved"
".....nothing physical"

What job did you have before, the general scope of ?

Im sorry but I cant help but feel insulted with you holding yourself in such high regard/esteem.

Can you say you're well read in world history ? By what measure are you judging yourself by .. you're already in the top 1% saints, I do not understand the depression. I know it feels shitty after realizing demoralizing things you've done, maybe just don't do it again ? or dwell on it too much ?
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Why say I hold myself with such high esteem? Top 1% saints? What are you talking about??
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Im talking about your understanding of this plane of existence … and how raising a family isn't the ultimate wisdom/endgame.
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Im talking about your understanding of this plane of existence … and how raising a family isn't the ultimate wisdom/endgame.
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Then what
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Then what
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2.3 billion years,
name me ONE instance where introduction of an innocent being to the human condition didn't get the inductee fucked in the butt (pardon my hiri motu)
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click on "when"
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Then it'll be too easy, wouldn't it. 
http://timelineindex.com/
2.3 billion years,
name me ONE instance where introduction of an innocent being to the human condition didn't get the inductee fucked in the butt (pardon my hiri motu)
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I don't get what you're trying to tell me
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dnt yearn for what u think u want too much, u might get it …

reevaluate your priorities in life
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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Nov 7 2019, 08:27 AM)
dnt yearn for what u think u want too much, u might get it …

reevaluate your priorities in life
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What should I prioritise? What should I do.
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What should I prioritise? What should I do.
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start with making your own decisions, not taking anyones advice however condescendin/humble/holy you might think someone is …..
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I'm still reading and thinking

Hang on yeah

Bottom line however, is don't give up

Take things one day at a time

It's not the end of the world, so keep yourself active, living your life as normally as you can

Other stuff, we talk later

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I thought I'm the only one in the world who has all her albums biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(KLthinker91 @ Nov 7 2019, 10:36 AM)
I'm still reading and thinking

Hang on yeah

Bottom line however, is don't give up

Take things one day at a time

It's not the end of the world, so keep yourself active, living your life as normally as you can

Other stuff, we talk later
Damn, who'dve thought, another Lenka fan biggrin.gif

I thought I'm the only one in the world who has all her albums biggrin.gif
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Hey thank you. Take your time to read it. Appreciate if you have any input.

Yeap am trying to pick myself up back now. Usually I'm better during day time.
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Yeap am trying to pick myself up back now. Usually I'm better during day time.
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I have a saying : night is when all the ghost come out. It's like all our regret often pop up during night time when all is quiet, to make us relive them again and again, right? But, it will pass with time. Trust me.

Hey man, how're you holding up?


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I have a saying : night is when all the ghost come out. It's like all our regret often pop up during night time when all is quiet, to make us relive them again and again, right? But, it will pass with time. Trust me.

Hey man, how're you holding up?
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Yeap true. Night time makes you think of all the negative things and when you wanna talk to someone, there's no one to talk to. At least day time I can just go to the coffeeshop to sit there alone and get surrounded by people. That's why I cant sleep at night. Sometimes bury myself with gaming but still...

Obviously not very well but I will try. It's just really hard for now cause I got a lot of negative thinking of myself.

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Obviously not very well but I will try. It's just really hard for now cause I got a lot of negative thinking of myself.
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Don't be too hard on yourself. We are only humans and we make mistakes from time to time. Sometimes yes we hate ourselves for it, but it's not the end of the world.
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Hey thanks for comforting. Will try to do my best.

Have you done any mistake you wish you did not?
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Me? A long time ago, I left my (then) gf to be with another girl after i found out I like another girl more. Then after I already started a new relationship with that other girl, it suddenly hit me and I start wondering whether what I did was right or not, and how I am a monster for breaking my ex-gf's heart like this.

These thoughts haunted me for quite a long time. In the beginning I would even walk in circles in the living room at night, pacing, my mind always repeating the same questions and thoughts.

It took me a long time to come to terms with myself.
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Me? A long time ago, I left my (then) gf to be with another girl after i found out I like another girl more. Then after I already started a new relationship with that other girl, it suddenly hit me and I start wondering whether what I did was right or not, and how I am a monster for breaking my ex-gf's heart like this.

These thoughts haunted me for quite a long time. In the beginning I would even walk in circles in the living room at night, pacing, my mind always repeating the same questions and thoughts.

It took me a long time to come to terms with myself.
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How was your relationship with the new girl? Still going on or what?

How did you manage to get over this? Did things go your way or you made peace with everything?
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How was your relationship with the new girl? Still going on or what?

How did you manage to get over this? Did things go your way or you made peace with everything?
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In the end I chose to stick with my decision and stay with the new girl. It simply took time to make peace with what I have done.

I suppose what you are experiencing now is your rational mind trying to process the loss and guilt you feel. This takes time. As for the mistakes you have done, don't be too hard on yourself. We are only human with our raw instinct (such as lust, desire & jealousy) and sometimes we slip & give in to our instinct instead of keeping them in check with our rational minds. It happens, we are only earthly humans.

In relationships I believe most of us like to think that we are like knights in shining armor, ready to be the best bf to our gf. With that thinking in mind, when we make mistakes we tend to crush ourselves with overwhelming guilt that we've failed our gf and that we became the very monsters that we promise never to become. But sometimes this can be unrealistic and crippling. I don't think anyone should be condemned forever if they admit and learn from their mistakes.

I think nobody gets to go thru life unscathed in this grey world. We make mistake sometimes, we hurt others sometimes, but this is a learning process to overcome our mistakes and guilt. To learn to be better and to live with our earthly flawed selves.


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In the end I chose to stick with my decision and stay with the new girl. It simply took time to make peace with what I have done.

I suppose what you are experiencing now is your rational mind trying to process the loss and guilt you feel. This takes time. As for the mistakes you have done, don't be too hard on yourself. We are only human with our raw instinct (such as lust, desire & jealousy) and sometimes we slip & give in to our instinct instead of keeping them in check with our rational minds. It happens, we are only earthly humans.

In relationships I believe most of us like to think that we are like knights in shining armor, ready to be the best bf to our gf. With that thinking in mind, when we make mistakes we tend to crush ourselves with overwhelming guilt that we've failed our gf and that we became the very monsters that we promise never to become. But sometimes this can be unrealistic and crippling. I don't think anyone should be condemned forever if they admit and learn from their mistakes.

I think nobody gets to go thru life unscathed in this grey world. We make mistake sometimes, we hurt others sometimes, but this is a learning process to overcome our mistakes and guilt. To learn to be better and to live with our earthly flawed selves.
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These are some very wise words you have there. Thank you and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts to me.

Giving into your desire can be a very scary thing. I hope I can pick myself up asap.

Either I wanna move on or get her back, I know I have to pick myself up and be better.
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These are some very wise words you have there. Thank you and I appreciate you sharing your thoughts to me.

Giving into your desire can be a very scary thing. I hope I can pick myself up asap.

Either I wanna move on or get her back, I know I have to pick myself up and be better.
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No problem. Just trying to provide another perspective. Just don't be too hard on yourself, this takes time to process and overcome. Hang in there Bro smile.gif
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I would like to suggest you to google "David Goggins" for a start, learn about his life and how he overcame all the adversities. Do some self-reflection and set goals (micro, short-term and long-term)

At the end of the day, we make the decision to continue being sad and empty or to just go out there and reach out for something.

Stay hard bro and good luck
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TS, one question.

What do you really want, right now?

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No problem. Just trying to provide another perspective. Just don't be too hard on yourself, this takes time to process and overcome. Hang in there Bro smile.gif
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Thank you bro. I will try and learn through this pain.
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I would like to suggest you to google "David Goggins" for a start, learn about his life and how he overcame all the adversities. Do some self-reflection and set goals (micro, short-term and long-term)

At the end of the day, we make the decision to continue being sad and empty or to just go out there and reach out for something.

Stay hard bro and good luck
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He's such a badass so tough.

Thanks! I will learn to pick myself up soon.
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Another chance in this relationship.
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You mean with your GF, right? Have you tried.... writing a letter to her? Some women still see this as to show sincerity...


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You mean with your GF, right? Have you tried.... writing a letter to her? Some women still see this as to show sincerity...
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As in handwritten letter? Nope. You think I should? But if I give, how do I get any reply from her?

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You doctor?

Thinking about my whole life. Haven't been a smooth journey and just messed up my relationship as well.
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Well, life hasn't been kind to me either, tried a lot of things, most of them considered a failure now at this point, want to make a change for the better, now ended up digging a deeper hole for myself. Lol

Problem I am having now is I'm too unmotivated to do anything. What I knows, my ideas, required a lot of money to make it work, else it will be a waste of time and no point in trying.
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Anyone still awake? I just wanna talk cause I'm feeling really depressed right now.

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Well, life hasn't been kind to me either, tried a lot of things, most of them considered a failure now at this point, want to make a change for the better, now ended up digging a deeper hole for myself. Lol

Problem I am having now is I'm too unmotivated to do anything. What I knows, my ideas, required a lot of money to make it work, else it will be a waste of time and no point in trying.
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Wanna tell me your story? Though I'm not in a good shape myself, I hope you are doing better.
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As in handwritten letter? Nope. You think I should? But if I give, how do I get any reply from her?
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It could be working.
The letter should be short, consist of you want to be with her and feel whole when you're together.

"I will be waiting for your call, take all the time you need." Give the girl some time to reflect and feel for you.


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It could be working.
The letter should be short, consist of you want to be with her and feel whole when you're together.

"I will be waiting for your call, take all the time  you need." Give the girl some time to reflect and feel for you.
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It has been around 3 weeks since we broke up. We last spoke on the phone on last Thursday. When do you think I should give this letterr?
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It has been around 3 weeks since we broke up. We last spoke on the phone on last Thursday. When do you think I should give this letterr?
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Whenever you are ready. Just write it. maybe attach with a gift? flower or nice clothes. Drop at the door.
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Whenever you are ready. Just write it. maybe attach with a gift? flower or nice clothes. Drop at the door.
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How do I know I am ready? Like ready for what?
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ready to send the letter........ you can send by your self or via postage/courier
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ready to send the letter........ you can send by your self or via postage/courier
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I dont know if I can take the result if she dont reach out back...
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Once you drop the letter to her, give her and *you* some time. if you force things, you are only adding stress onto it. Try, just try to give it some time & pray for the good things.
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i dont know u but bro, pls know that i do support u.. whatever u do, think of ur loved ones.. just dont do stupid things ok? icon_rolleyes.gif


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Once you drop the letter to her, give her and *you* some time. if you force things, you are only adding stress onto it. Try, just try to give it some time & pray for the good things.
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Understand bro. Maybe I'll pass her the letter in another 2 weeks time. Should I give her a call after dropping the letter?
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Understand bro. Maybe I'll pass her the letter in another 2 weeks time. Should I give her a call after dropping the letter?
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i dont know u but bro, pls know that i do support u.. whatever u do, think of ur loved ones.. just dont do stupid things ok? icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hey thanks. Appreciate it.

Though the thoughts are there, I wont cause I know will bring more troubles and stress to her.
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if you feel comfortable to call, make it short. less than 5 mins. make her look forward to your surprise smile.gif all the best!
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I mean call after she read the letter oh.
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It has been around 3 weeks since we broke up. We last spoke on the phone on last Thursday. When do you think I should give this letter?
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Well, this is kinda positive ... the fact that she wants to talk with you means things aren't that bad. If she is really upset with you, I guess she wouldn't want to even pick up your calls. In between, do both of you drop short whatsapp messages, forward stuff to one another, etc. ie keeping the communication channel open?

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 7 2019, 04:26 PM)
I mean call after she read the letter oh.
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Do you know what's her love language? If yes, it'll be good to focus on those areas more ...
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Well, this is kinda positive ... the fact that she wants to talk with you means things aren't that bad. If she is really upset with you, I guess she wouldn't want to even pick up your calls. In between, do both of you drop short whatsapp messages, forward stuff to one another, etc. ie keeping the communication channel open?
Do you know what's her love language? If yes, it'll be good to focus on those areas more ...
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Actually I tried calling her on Sunday night but she did not pick up. Next morning she replied me "Saw your missed call. Anything?" But I did not reply. The reason I did not reply is that I know if I reply, I will be desperate for more communication with her. And I wanna give her the space and room to heal from everything that I have done. She did tell me if she meet me outside, she will not avoid me. I guess its actually hard for her to talk to me now because seeing me reminded her of the terrible things I have done. I dont know if I should keep the communication open as I am quite sure it will most likely be one way.

Her love language is quality time and words of affirmation.
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Actually I tried calling her on Sunday night but she did not pick up. Next morning she replied me "Saw your missed call. Anything?" But I did not reply. The reason I did not reply is that I know if I reply, I will be desperate for more communication with her. And I wanna give her the space and room to heal from everything that I have done. She did tell me if she meet me outside, she will not avoid me. I guess its actually hard for her to talk to me now because seeing me reminded her of the terrible things I have done. I dont know if I should keep the communication open as I am quite sure it will most likely be one way.

Her love language is quality time and words of affirmation.
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so far from her side, seems like she is kinda ok now - definitely she won't forget but probably she has forgiven you enough to be civil with you and not totally give you the cold shoulder currently. Seems like now it's just your assumption from your side that she might not want to talk to you etc. when the signs are all showing otherwise ...

Ok, next question - conflict resolution. When both of you had conflicts or disagreement in the past, how did both of you handle and resolve it? Different people will have different ways to do it ...

my wife is the type that likes to talk openly and bring all out good and bad there and then when the issue happens, brings out all the past mistake ... I think many girls are like that ...

I'm not the like that though - when I'm in bad mood, I just don't want to talk ... I prefer to go away someplace quiet where I can calm down, collect my thoughts and come back to tackle the issue for another day, or just exercise and do some physical activities to take away all the stress ... which I think most men are like this laugh.gif

So which is her way of conflict resolution? Maybe all this while you are approaching this from your perspective, maybe she wanted to talk about it but not sure how you would handle it ...

The fact that her love language is quality time and words of affirmation - both requires you to communicate with her. And by keeping quiet and not talking to her, you are not engaging her love languages.

Give it shot - but please FIRST send her some flowers and write letters to her before you ask her if she is ready to talk about the issue.

You've got nothing to lose, the worst she could say is not ready and you just have to wait more ...
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Yeap. I plan to reconnect after few weeks. I need to give her time to heal first at least.

What do you advise to do something?
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Judging from how sensitive she is to these little action, better to treat it like starting from scratch with some distance, slowly closing in.

Observe the progress... you'll know if she have the intention to give it a try, who knows she might learnt something from that and make some change adapting to your behavior?

after all, she sounds like she is willing to forgive u and make friend with you, let her prove it to you.
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QUOTE(cameradude @ Nov 7 2019, 09:04 PM)
so far from her side, seems like she is kinda ok now - definitely she won't forget but probably she has forgiven you enough to be civil with you and not totally give you the cold shoulder currently. Seems like now it's just your assumption from your side that she might not want to talk to you etc. when the signs are all showing otherwise ...

Ok, next question - conflict resolution. When both of you had conflicts or disagreement in the past, how did both of you handle and resolve it? Different people will have different ways to do it ...

my wife is the type that likes to talk openly and bring all out good and bad there and then when the issue happens, brings out all the past mistake ... I think many girls are like that ...

I'm not the like that though - when I'm in bad mood, I just don't want to talk ... I prefer to go away someplace quiet where I can calm down, collect my thoughts and come back to tackle the issue for another day, or just exercise and do some physical activities to take away all the stress ... which I think most men are like this  laugh.gif

So which is her way of conflict resolution? Maybe all this while you are approaching this from your perspective, maybe she wanted to talk about it but not sure how you would handle it ...

The fact that her love language is quality time and words of affirmation - both requires you to communicate with her. And by keeping quiet and not talking to her, you are not engaging her love languages.

Give it shot - but please FIRST send her some flowers and write letters to her before you ask her if she is ready to talk about the issue.

You've got nothing to lose, the worst she could say is not ready and you just have to wait more ...
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Thanks for your reply. Really appreciate it.

She's the kind that wanna talk about it yet will take her time to be quiet and cool down. We always manage to solve our quarrels on the day itself. Maybe not solve cause some of them are our differences we just can't help it but we manage to be happy on the same day and tolerate each other.

But like what you say of most girls, she actually remembers each quarrels and what is said whereas I can hardly remember the detail of each quarrel. But having said that, we don't have a lot of quarrels actually. Sometimes she can be very sensitive to certain issues and overthinks without telling me.

We actually talked about this incident in a very civil manner. I mean after crying and begging, we manage to have a talk about this. Basically she said let's build ourselves first and our relationship with God for now. Nobody know what will happen in the future. If it's God will we are meant to be together, then we are. From my side, I just wanna give her a few weeks maybe 2, to have her own space before trying to contact her again.

So you also suggest letters? What do you think should be the content.
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Judging from how sensitive she is to these little action, better to treat it like starting from scratch with some distance, slowly closing in.

Observe the progress... you'll know if she have the intention to give it a try, who knows she might learnt something from that and make some change adapting to your behavior?

after all, she sounds like she is willing to forgive u and make friend with you, let her prove it to you.
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This is what I thought so too. I also need to give myself time to not appear desperate into begging her to come back.

But the no contact period is like so damn hard.
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Well, I'm in same situation wif u right now. I argue wif my wife. And I asked for a month break out. She went back to her parents house and it's been 2 week she didn't reply my msg at all. My birthday on 3/11 and we plan alot of things together and yet, during my birthday she just wish me happy birthday.

On 4/11. I went to her parents house and say sorry but my parents in law step in and said. I asked for a month break so be wif it. U know it's damn hurt. I just started new job last month and u know I'm having hard time to concentrate on wat I'm doing.

And now, my parents step in and wanted us to divorce. I'm desperate like crazy. I surprise her by sending her 28 petals of roses and write a letter which saying I'm sorry. And yet, no reply from her at all. It's just I'm damn hurt right now but.. I smile all the time.. Cause I dun wan people see I'm sad. But deep inside. I'm broken like crazy.
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This is what I thought so too. I also need to give myself time to not appear desperate into begging her to come back.

But the no contact period is like so damn hard.
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Good to see you finding yourself back.

U may not be the only one that find the no contact period is hard.

How about set a date with her for next week movie or something u know she'd prefer as a friend?

if you get rejected for few times, u'll know you have to move on.
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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 7 2019, 09:57 PM)
Well, I'm in same situation wif u right now. I argue wif my wife. And I asked for a month break out. She went back to her parents house and it's been 2 week she didn't reply my msg at all. My birthday on 3/11 and we plan alot of things together and yet, during my birthday she just wish me happy birthday.

On 4/11. I went to her parents house and say sorry but my parents in law step in and said. I asked for a month break so be wif it. U know it's damn hurt. I just started new job last month and u know I'm having hard time to concentrate on wat I'm doing.

And now, my parents step in and wanted us to divorce. I'm desperate like crazy. I surprise her by sending her 28 petals of roses and write a letter which saying I'm sorry. And yet, no reply from her at all. It's just I'm damn hurt right now but.. I smile all the time.. Cause I dun wan people see I'm sad. But deep inside. I'm broken like crazy.
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Bro I know how everything feel. To be broken inside like crazy yet you need to put on a mask that shows you're happy and well. I totally understand how all that feel. And cry during the night when you're alone.

Hope we can support each other through this period.

What did you guys quarrel about and why your parents ask you to divorce? Look at the bright side, at least your parent care about you and you can confide in them. I have none.

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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Nov 7 2019, 09:58 PM)
Good to see you finding yourself back.

U may not be the only one that find the no contact period is hard.

How about set a date with her for next week movie or something u know she'd prefer as a friend?

if you get rejected for few times, u'll know you have to move on.
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Set a date for next week movie might be a little too early. I know she won't go. My plan is just to call her talk on the phone about what she has been doing as simple as this. Just doing little by little to reconnect.
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Thanks for your reply. Really appreciate it.

She's the kind that wanna talk about it yet will take her time to be quiet and cool down. We always manage to solve our quarrels on the day itself. Maybe not solve cause some of them are our differences we just can't help it but we manage to be happy on the same day and tolerate each other.

But like what you say of most girls, she actually remembers each quarrels and what is said whereas I can hardly remember the detail of each quarrel. But having said that, we don't have a lot of quarrels actually. Sometimes she can be very sensitive to certain issues and overthinks without telling me.

We actually talked about this incident in a very civil manner. I mean after crying and begging, we manage to have a talk about this. Basically she said let's build ourselves first and our relationship with God for now. Nobody know what will happen in the future. If it's God will we are meant to be together, then we are. From my side, I just wanna give her a few weeks maybe 2, to have her own space before trying to contact her again.

So you also suggest letters? What do you think should be the content.
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Actually both of you seems to build quite a good foundation for your relationship with both sides able to adapt and grow with each other's characters ...

As for the letter, why not make it a letter of appreciation? Not the desperate dejected type where I can't live without you, the world seems so black and gray when you are not around type bla bla emo type ...

Just tell her what you really appreciate about her - what you have learnt from her as person, strengths, impact, how she has helped you to become a better person, bla bla bla ... in other words, like what you write to say to appreciate a good friend ...

However, I'm very curious about the bolded part ... did she specifically said that she wanted to break up or just have a period of cooling off or something else? Because from the tone of this part of the message, it seems like to have a hidden implied meaning ... I just want to be sure what she meant when she said these words ...
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3 days of not sleeping yet when I fall asleep just now for 30 mins, I woke up because of anxiety. The kind where you wake up your heart beat so fast for not reason. And I don't even dare to off my lights when I sleep. Nobody knows except you guys kind soul here.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 7 2019, 10:09 PM)
3 days of not sleeping yet when I fall asleep just now for 30 mins, I woke up because of anxiety. The kind where you wake up your heart beat so fast for not reason. And I don't even dare to off my lights when I sleep. Nobody knows except you guys kind soul here.
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Take it easy. Try to relax. Remember to breath in.. Breath out..
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QUOTE(cameradude @ Nov 7 2019, 10:08 PM)
Actually both of you seems to build quite a good foundation for your relationship with both sides able to adapt and grow with each other's characters ...

As for the letter, why not make it a letter of appreciation? Not the desperate dejected type where I can't live without you, the world seems so black and gray when you are not around type bla bla emo type ...

Just tell her what you really appreciate about her - what you have learnt from her as person, strengths, impact, how she has helped you to become a better person, bla bla bla ... in other words, like what you write to say to appreciate a good friend ...

However, I'm very curious about the bolded part ... did she specifically said that she wanted to break up or just have a period of cooling off or something else? Because from the tone of this part of the message, it seems like to have a hidden implied meaning ... I just want to be sure what she meant when she said these words ...
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Yeap she specifically said that for the time being, she can't continue on with this relationship because she cannot pretend like nothing ever happen. She lost her trust and self esteem because of this incident. Then after a few days, she called to ask about the incident. I think she's seeking for closure. That call, we talk properly about how it happen and also the little problems in our relationship.

Like for example through this conversation I found out she never had peace when we had physical intimacy. By physical intimacy I mean kissing and cuddling on bed. Stuff like that but she held on to this relationship despite everything.

I think ultimately for her, we broke up but whatever happen in future, no one know. She's a very Godly person so she believe God plan for both of us. She also did mention there are times she want to call me and find me but she know if she follows her emotion, it might not be good to her. She has to protect herself from further hurt.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 7 2019, 10:13 PM)
Take it easy. Try to relax. Remember to breath in.. Breath out..
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Each reply is really helpful. I thought I will get trolled so hard here but you guys really help me so much.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 7 2019, 10:08 PM)
Set a date for next week movie might be a little too early. I know she won't go. My plan is just to call her talk on the phone about what she has been doing as simple as this. Just doing little by little to reconnect.
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Well, its totally your call, you're the one who know her most here, we can only advise how u should think and act, the details you can keep it for yourself smile.gif

But also 1 thing do keep in mind is the intimacy that she don't feel comfortable giving you, are you ok with that for the future to come?
I've seen many people like her seeking help as they can't stop feeling guilt when she having the intimacy even after marriage, not gonna judge anything
but I'm pretty sure if she can't get through the very surface intimacy part, it will be harder for her to go through the following stage,
and marriage is not the key to open her up to intimacy, then the lust might get u again, we're human after all.

Not discouraging you, but it's something worth thinking... we often thinks marriage is where we can bind us together, but its actually where the real test begun.
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Nov 7 2019, 10:56 PM)
Well, its totally your call, you're the one who know her most here, we can only advise how u should think and act, the details you can keep it for yourself smile.gif

But also 1 thing do keep in mind is the intimacy that she don't feel comfortable giving you, are you ok with that for the future to come?
I've seen many people like her seeking help as they can't stop feeling guilt when she having the intimacy even after marriage, not gonna judge anything
but I'm pretty sure if she can't get through the very surface intimacy part, it will be harder for her to go through the following stage,
and marriage is not the key to open her up to intimacy, then the lust might get u again, we're human after all.

Not discouraging you, but it's something worth thinking... we often thinks marriage is where we can bind us together, but its actually where the real test begun.
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Actually we spoken about this and she said she don't feel good it's only because we haven't get married. She wants it too and she admit she's very weak in this. She get aroused very easily but at the same time she's very very disciplined.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 7 2019, 11:02 PM)
Actually we spoken about this and she said she don't feel good it's only because we haven't get married. She wants it too and she admit she's very weak in this. She get aroused very easily but at the same time she's very very disciplined.
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Ok, to me I think this is a positive progress atleast.. give her time to heal... but don't drag it too long as u know overthinking and negative advises from friends plays important role
in her decision making.
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Ive not been in such an extreme case, dont think i can share anything of much help

But the way i look at it is, unless she satisfy your sexual cravings, its not gonna end, even if you get back, it wont exactly solve the problem.

Nway, all the best bro, would buy you around to cheer you up if you are in MV . lol
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QUOTE(zero5177 @ Nov 7 2019, 11:45 PM)
Ok, to me I think this is a positive progress atleast.. give her time to heal... but don't drag it too long as u know overthinking and negative advises from friends plays important role
in her decision making.
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Yeah that's why I wanna find ways to communicate to her. Maybe once a week talk in the phone I'm happy dy.
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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2019, 12:03 AM)
Ive not been in such an extreme case, dont think i can share anything of  much help

But the way i look at it is, unless she satisfy your sexual cravings, its not gonna end, even if you get back, it wont exactly solve the problem.

Nway, all the best bro, would buy you around to cheer you up if you are in MV .  lol
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I can go on without pre marital sex. Done it for a number of years dy but then this happen. I fall this time.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 8 2019, 12:10 AM)
I can go on without pre marital sex. Done it for a number of years dy but then this happen. I fall this time.
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Well thats what you say, but if you are taking up the bait, all it needs is another girl.

Its not wrong accepting defeat that you cant do it, its only natural for guys to have a libido


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QUOTE(+3kk! @ Nov 8 2019, 12:17 AM)
Well thats what you say, but if you are taking up the bait, all it needs is another girl.

Its not wrong accepting defeat that you cant do it, its only natural for guys to have a libido
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Yeah you are right. I am weak when the temptation comes hanging in front of me.

But I hope this painful lesson will teach me better.
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Guys, suggest you all listen to Jay-Z's, 99 Problems. Or if not, lemme give you the gist of it : he's had 99 problems but a butch ain't one.

Girls are a dime a dozen. It's a big sea with many fishes. Don't waste your time over someone insignificant.

How old are you all, come on...
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Sorry but I need to be honest here

You r so stupid. Bear that in mind, when you r a man/woman who is currently in a serious relationship, do not be too nice to other opposite gender. It's something u can think logically, if it's not you who think u gonna get lucky, lust then the opposite gender will or accidentally fall in love.

Don't beg for her to come back. You need to move on.
Improve urself to be more trustworthy. Even if she come back, she will always think you still gonna repeat the same mistake in the future. I know how girls think or else when you do hv a massive fight with her she will raise the issue again and again since it will be unforgettable mistake for her.

Sorry to hear that btw
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QUOTE(gingerrobot @ Nov 8 2019, 01:04 AM)
Sorry but I need to be honest here

You r so stupid. Bear that in mind, when you r a man/woman who is currently in a serious relationship, do not be too nice to other opposite gender. It's something u can think logically, if it's not you who think u gonna get lucky, lust then the opposite gender will or accidentally fall in love.

Don't beg for her to come back. You need to move on.
Improve urself to be more trustworthy. Even if she come back, she will always think you still gonna repeat the same mistake in the future. I know how girls think or else when you do hv a massive fight with her she will raise the issue again and again since it will be unforgettable mistake for her.

Sorry to hear that btw
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I did a stupid mistake because of my immature actions. But its hard for me to move on. I'm prepare to do whatever it takes to build the trust back.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 8 2019, 01:12 AM)
I did a stupid mistake because of my immature actions. But its hard for me to move on. I'm prepare to do whatever it takes to build the trust back.
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Good luck then. Don't repeat the same mistake again or worse than that.

Let me tell you something, a good woman/man is very hard to find. But When u get urself one, keep since you cannot find elsewhere twice.
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QUOTE(gingerrobot @ Nov 8 2019, 01:19 AM)
Good luck then. Don't repeat the same mistake again or worse than that.

Let me tell you something, a good woman/man is very hard to find. But When u get urself one, keep since you cannot find elsewhere twice.
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I don't know if this has been suggested before, but you can try read more about conflict resolution with your partner according to her zodiac sign.

Even if it doesn't work out in the end, by understanding more about what makes her tick, could bring you closure and helps you deal with it and move on with lighter heart.
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QUOTE(LilyJaneS @ Nov 8 2019, 02:35 AM)
I don't know if this has been suggested before, but you can try read more about conflict resolution with your partner according to her zodiac sign.

Even if it doesn't work out in the end, by understanding more about what makes her tick, could bring you closure and helps you deal with it and move on with lighter heart.
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I dont really read into zodiac but I guess no harm trying it.

Thank you for sharing.
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QUOTE(ieatchickens @ Nov 8 2019, 03:08 AM)
i'd buy a 500pc rubber band pack and grind the physio
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I'm still awake..cant sleep becaus to much worry
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QUOTE(hakimnen @ Nov 8 2019, 03:34 AM)
I'm still awake..cant sleep becaus to much worry
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QUOTE(KittyKat @ Nov 8 2019, 03:46 AM)
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haih still doing assignments. i wanna sleeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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physiotherapy for the acl ?

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fuck this world.
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follow me TS. next year i wanna buy ps5 and 4k monitor or tv and play game nonstop till bleed and die .
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fuck this world.
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My heart breaks after reading what you have been through @ page 4. I wish you a speedy recovery, and time will heal. We /k/ will be cheerleading for you (or is it just me?lol)! Jiayou
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Morning. Had your breakfast?
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My heart breaks after reading what you have been through @ page 4. I wish you a speedy recovery, and time will heal. We /k/ will be cheerleading for you (or is it just me?lol)! Jiayou
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Thank you so much. This really means a lot.

For now I can cope with day time. It's only during night time my anxiety and depression level become really scary. At night when I lay down my bed, my mind start replaying everything I wish I would have done or said differently. It's just painful.

So your reply really means a lot.
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When i was under depression before, sleep helps a lot. it take you off the problem for a while.

Give yourself some time.

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 5 2019, 03:21 AM)
I just type this somewhere. Here you go.

I grew up in a strict family. My dad was a disciplinarian. Typical Asian dad who put a lot of emphasis on my studies. Whenever my grades were bad, I was caned and hit. I would not said that he physically abuse me but yeah, this was his way of making sure I excel in my studies. He was really this strict to me and my sister. It was harsh love growing up. My dad was uneducated so he wanted us not to follow him. I knew he did all these because he love us but its just the way he did all this was harsh. I learnt all the curse words from him which says a lot. However, my dad provided well for the family in term of resources. We were never financially lacking and he gave us the best that he could.

When I was 12, my dad was diagnosed with cancer and he left us after 2 years battling with the illness. It was a very devastating period for me and my family. The good thing is that he accepted Christ during his sickness. Though I went to church since young, our family was never a Christian family. So after he left, I went into a rebel mode. My mom could never control me because I was never scared of her. I was scared of my dad. My grades dipped dramatically and a lot of shit happened to me during that time. My dad left use a huge house before he left which was fully paid off. My mom's brother persuaded her to turn this house into mortgage to raise funds for his new business venture. My mom did and long story short, the business failed and we had to sell off the house because we could not afford paying the monthly loan. This was the main reason why my relationship with my mom became really bad. We stop talking for like more than a year because that time I was angry at her for losing our house. We had to rent from one house to another. My sister got a scholarship to study in the States while all these happened so she was out of the picture for quite a long time.
So basically, my relationship with my family was non-existence. Things have gotten better with my mom but it was never like how it used to be. While we go for dinner together once in a while, I stop telling her my problems. As for my sister, she is living in another city and she has her own life so I won't want to bother her with my problems.

Probably because I grew up in an a female environment, my closest friend are girls as well. I always thought that girls are better listener whom I can share my problems too. Both my closest girl friends have been my friend since 7. I have very close guy friends as well but they are not the kind of people who you would share your problems to. I'm sure they will drag me to the bar and ask me to relax when I share my problems with them. Thing is I don't really like drinking or smoking. But we still hang out over meals and all. I hang out more with my girl friends and over the years, I find it easier to make friend with girls rather than guys. Another thing I find it hard to be close to guys was an experience when I was young. I was 10 or 11 when I joined this camp. I was sexually molested by a guy elder than me when we slept beside each other during the camp. Why I am telling you this is because this became an issue later on.

So I became a serious Christian after my break up in my 2nd relationship. It was a 4 years relationship that crushed me and I had to rely on God that time. It was in the church I met her. She is a very God fearing girl and grew up in a Christian family. She is everything that I am not. The youngest in the family, she is disciplined, her family is soft and gentle. However, one thing similar is that she lost her dad when she was young too. Because of this, she grew up having low self esteem and lack of a father figure in her life. As you can see, we are two individuals with a lot of issues growing up.

When we got together, we had a rough time of trying to adapt to each other expectation. She was very sensitive with the words that come out from me and who I hang out with. Me on the other hand was very insecure because of the lack of family connection. When we quarreled, I would throw harsh words to her which I dont mean it. Subconciously, I was behaving like my dad. She on the other hand, set a very high expectation on me. A lot of time, I find her comparing me with her cousin, her brother in law which seemed unfair for me because she was taking everyone's strenght and comparing it with me. Another issue we had was physical intimacy. We both agreed not to have pre-marital sex and I respected her decision in this. We never went across each other necks to give you an idea. Althought there are times I wish we had more, I never asked her to compromise. However, I did not know that she would even feel guilty from passionate kissing. She only revealed to me after the break up. For me, I told her although I agreed to not having pre-marital sex, I have my needs and desire as a guy and I struggle in them. And also, it was because of her, I tried to keep a distance from my girl friends as I know she is sensitive in this area too. We only met up on special occassions and I always brought her along. This is the girl I wanna stay forever with so I was willing to make some sacrifices along the way.We manage to iron the differences and stick with each other. Once example was when she was at the crossroad of her career and she always wanted to go overseas to work. I accompanied her to fly to another country to attend an interview and I told her if she got this job and made her decision to come over, I will follow her as well. I was prepared to leave my current job and family  to go with her. The reason why I did not plan to work in a bigger city was because of my mom. I don't wanna leave her alone because my sister is already living abroad. But I was prepared to go with her that time. She did not get the job though. Everything was good and all. We even went to a marriage counselling because we are prepared to bring this relationship to another level.

There was this other girl. She was a work acquaintance from a competitor company. We were friends and she was divorced. Initially I tried to talk to her to help her get through her divorce. This was way before I got into this relationship. I had empathy for people going through such heart break because I knew what it felt. So after that, we kinda texted each other every now and then talking about work and what not. It wasn't frequent, probably once every month or so. I had no feelings for her but in September, she got bold suddenly. She started sending me photos of her in beach wear. September was a very low period for me because I quit my job over stress, my dog pass away and I had to go for a surgery over my knee. I know I had no excuse for doing what I did. But I did it. Maybe I was desperate for sexual gratification. I said things that I should not be saying to another girl in exchange for more photos. It happened over a week and I cut it off. There were not nudes or nothing physical involved. I thought it was harmless because it was pleasure to my eyes and I would never do anything more than that. This girl is staying in a different city.

My ex found out when she stayed over with me in the hospital. She could not accept this betrayal. I admitted and took 100% responsibility that it was my mistake. I fell into a temptation that I should not have. I was weak and I lost my self control. I pleaded my case and asked her to extend grace to me and give me another chance but she told me this was too much to take. I shattered her trust and destroyed her self esteem. Of course when she doesnt trust me, everything sounded like a lie. I told her if she needs to believe one thing, please believe me when I said it was not her problem. It was mine. I dont want her to think that she did not do enough in this relationship and her shortfall caused me to do whatever I did.

It has been 2 weeks. The last time we spoke on the phone, I told her I will be praying for her recovery. I told her I will be reflecting on my action and repent hard. This is a reminder to me what damage sin of lust could do and I will bring this lesson into marriage. We will not be contacting one another because she needs to rebuild herself back and any contact with me will only remind her of the terrible things I did. For myself, I have to go back to God and sort myself out. I asked to to pray for our relationship too. Put our relationship at the corner of her heart. It will not be the focus for her right now so keep it in the corner. If our relationship is God's will, He will bring us back to one another regardless how long we need to take. I want her back. Of course I do. But I have accepted for this moment, I need to let her go.

You know I always wanted my own family because I thought I havent had a good childhood growing up. Family was almost non existant for me. My dream was to have my own family and I would give my children whatever I was lacking off. Ironically, I ruined my own dream and cost us both our future together. I dont know how will I ever forgive myself. She told me she doesn't hate me and she forgive me for what I did. She just cannot stay around in this relationship anymore. Each time I felt depressed and broken, I reminded myself she is probably having it worse than me. Very often I asked God why the punishment for my sin comes with such a big price to pay. But I am totally aware that I made a huge mistake in life and I just have to carry this consequences with me.

So this is basically my story.
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One thing for sure ...never ever text a girl especially if she is a divorcee or in difficult marriage. One thing will lead to another...that's given.

If got time read this book "not just friends by shirley p. Glass".

Also betrayal is like a trauma similar to injury etc. She needs time.

Anyway if you guys are meant to be you are meant to be. Good thing is if you both are back together then it will be a stronger relation ship having purified by fire.

All the best dude.
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Hi Morning. Yeah, I did. I went to my mom's new food stall to makan breakfast for the first time. Can tell she was happy seeing me appear there. While I eating, she look at me like happy. Can tell she feel proud of me. But if only she know what I am facing. She still doesnt know I quit my job and broke up in my relationship.
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QUOTE(takadanicklagi @ Nov 8 2019, 10:34 AM)
One thing for sure ...never ever text a girl especially if she is a divorcee or in difficult marriage. One thing will lead to another...that's given.

If got time read this book "not just friends by shirley p. Glass".

Also betrayal is like a trauma similar to injury etc. She needs time.

Anyway if you guys are meant to be you are meant to be. Good thing is if you both are back together then it will be a stronger relation ship having purified by fire.

All the best dude.
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Thank you. I just googled this book and it's about rebuilding trust after infidelity.

Do you think my case is a case of infidelity?
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When i was under depression before, sleep helps a lot. it take you off the problem for a while.

Give yourself some time.

Let time helas both of you.

If its meant to be, it will be.
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Hi Morning. Yeah, I did. I went to my mom's new food stall to makan breakfast for the first time. Can tell she was happy seeing me appear there. While I eating, she look at me like happy. Can tell she feel proud of me. But if only she know what I am facing. She still doesnt know I quit my job and broke up in my relationship.
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I don't know whether it is helpful, but maybe you can try sharing what you are going thru with your mom? Reading pg4, I know you don't have the best relationship with your mom.. But maybe this is an opportunity to start communicating again and rebuilt a good relationship with your mom? Just a suggestion smile.gif

If you are able to, may I suggest taking a hike in the mountains, go to the beach or have a walk in a big green park. I don't know about you but I find that some quiet time near nature always helps.
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I don't know whether it is helpful, but maybe you can try sharing what you are going thru with your mom? Reading pg4, I know you don't have the best relationship with your mom.. But maybe this is an opportunity to start communicating again and rebuilt a good relationship with your mom? Just a suggestion smile.gif

If you are able to, may I suggest taking a hike in the mountains, go to the beach or have a walk in a big green park. I don't know about you but I find that some quiet time near nature always helps.
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I dont dare telling her.

Usually there's only 2 outcome. Either she scold me...or if she realise its serious enough, she will get very worried about me.

Yeap, I hang out in the nearby park sitting near the playground looking at kids playing. Enjoying their laughter imagining my future children there. But I cannot hike or walk too much yet cause I still recovering from my ACL surgery.
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Thank you. I just googled this book and it's about rebuilding trust after infidelity.

Do you think my case is a case of infidelity?
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To you maybe not to her I would say a bright yes.

Anyway no normal person would start a casual relationship with the intention of infidelity.

We all have good intention but things ends up badly.

Anyway ask yourself why is she angry if not for your betrayal.

A lot of good people fall into this mistake. Good people like colleagues, friends , pastors, politician.

Good u ended it .

I may be wrong in my assessment.

All the best lar har.....give her time.
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To you maybe not to her I would say a bright yes.

Anyway no normal person would start a casual relationship with the intention of infidelity.

We all have good intention but things ends up badly.

Anyway ask yourself why is she angry if not for your betrayal.

A lot of good people fall into this mistake. Good people like colleagues, friends , pastors, politician. 

Good u ended it .

I may be wrong in my assessment.

All the best lar har.....give her time.
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That is what I thought as well. Doesnt matter what I think but its what she perceived. From her perspective, I cheated and betrayed.

Are you a girl?
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That is what I thought as well. Doesnt matter what I think but its what she perceived. From her perspective, I cheated and betrayed.

Are you a girl?
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Lol...are there any girls in lowyat forum?

Ohh btw guys perception on infidelity is sex....

Ladies can include emotional infidelity...which is your case.

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Lol...are there any girls in lowyat forum?

Ohh btw guys perception on infidelity is sex....

Ladies can include emotional infidelity...which is your case.
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Oh I thought your tag is real.

But I dont have any emotional feelings towards her. But yeah I get what you mean. I'll get that book you recommend.
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Hey man, how's things going?
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Hey man, how's things going?
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Trying hard to cope with my daily activities. Trying to play game in office but getting sick of it.

Suddenly feels like suffocating in office so may leave early to hang out in the coffeeshop so I am surrounded by people. In my office only 2 person, 1 sit outside and I sit inside. So basically alone.

Tonight my church leader ask my for dinner. He wants to check up on me after hearing what happened. I dont have any appetite but I will go cause I dont wanna go home.

I'm also reading this book now: Beyond Boundaries
Thinking of wanting to pass this book to her after I finish reading.

I'm actually feeling very touched you actually follow up on me. Thank you. cry.gif
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No problem Bro, I have some time available so I just stick around to chat a bit.

Always good to go out to have some fresh air. I sometimes don't like the cold fluorescence light inside offices. But hey, that's just my preference.

And yeah, always good to go out meet with friends. Maybe you'll feel a bit better after sharing with your church leader.

All the best Bro smile.gif
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No problem Bro, I have some time available so I just stick around to chat a bit.

Always good to go out to have some fresh air. I sometimes don't like the cold fluorescence light inside offices. But hey, that's just my preference.

And yeah, always good to go out meet with friends. Maybe you'll feel a bit better after sharing with your church leader.

All the best Bro smile.gif
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I'm not ready to tell my friends what happened yet. Yeah, see what happens after sharing with church leader. I will try to update here.

Thank you. All this breaking up effects are as real as it gets.

How bout you? Did you have a good day?

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I'm not ready to tell my friends what happened yet. Yeah, see what happens after sharing with church leader. I will try to update here.

Thank you. All this breaking up effects are as real as it gets.

How bout you? Did you have a good day?
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Try to view this as a learning experience, an opportunity to grow. I feel that everyone need to experience lost or failure at least once to learn how to handle it in a healthy way and also it allow us to appreciate what we have and be humble. Hang in there, you'll be alright.

As for me, it will be a busy few weeks for me as need to organise a family event. Luckily work isn't too busy so I still can cope, just annoyed that I don't have time to properly wash my car.
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Try to view this as a learning experience, an opportunity to grow. I feel that everyone need to experience lost or failure at least once to learn how to handle it in a healthy way and also it allow us to appreciate what we have and be humble. Hang in there, you'll be alright.

As for me, it will be a busy few weeks for me as need to organise a family event. Luckily work isn't too busy so I still can cope, just annoyed that I don't have time to properly wash my car.
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I told myself God wants me to grow from my weakness, to break free of my struggles and temptation. Pain is the best teacher. But in the process I've hurt her so much. I can't get over how much I've hurt her.
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I told myself God wants me to grow from my weakness, to break free of my struggles and temptation. Pain is the best teacher. But in the process I've hurt her so much. I can't get over how much I've hurt her.
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Yeah it sucks that you did something bad and harmed her, but don't condemn yourself forever. Learn to forgive yourself, then slowly communicate with her, steadily rebuild trust again and strengthen the relationship.
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Yeah it sucks that you did something bad and harmed her, but don't condemn yourself forever. Learn to forgive yourself, then slowly communicate with her, steadily rebuild trust again and strengthen the relationship.
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Thank you. You still have faith that I can strengthen this relationship. Thanks for being optimistic.

Meeting up with my church leader was good. Really comforting when I'm facing this alone and someone can be there and talk to me. Told him I felt like a big failure and showed him the story I wrote here. Hope tonight I won't have major anxiety attack.
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Thank you. You still have faith that I can strengthen this relationship. Thanks for being optimistic.

Meeting up with my church leader was good. Really comforting when I'm facing this alone and someone can be there and talk to me. Told him I felt like a big failure and showed him the story I wrote here. Hope tonight I won't have major anxiety attack.
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That is good to hear. Talking about it helps, slowly get it out of your system, accept it as it is and overcome it. Hang in there Bro.
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Thing is I cant sleep. Maybe everyday for a while only like 2-3 hours.
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Drink milk, hot shower.

Automatically tired
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Drink milk, hot shower.

Automatically tired
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Tonight manage to get some sleep. Guess I was really tired. But here I am again. Anxiety woke me up.
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That is good to hear. Talking about it helps, slowly get it out of your system, accept it as it is and overcome it. Hang in there Bro.
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I really wanna stand back up again.

Saw her insta story she flew over to KL and stay with her best friend. Guess she's finding comfort too.
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Manage to take short sleep in between. I remember 10-1 and 2-5. Now woke up feeling very anxious, worry and heart beating very fast. Had a good cry while it's raining outside. Consequences of sin....
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god is just a delusion.

if TS stop believing in god, i am sure his life will be much better.
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Mate.. think easiest way for u to escape this predicament is to meet doc n get luvox (fluvoxamine). Gradually u will become better..n get it through gov.. if private really exp..
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Mate.. think easiest way for u to escape this predicament is to meet doc n get luvox (fluvoxamine). Gradually u will become better..n get it through gov.. if private really exp..
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Get it from government hospital? What do I tell them?
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Go to clinic, ask referral letter to meet specialist psychiatrist. Then at hospital be frank about ur stories.. n tell him/her u need anti depressent pills. Luvox gives u focus n make u stay on your toes, at the same time eradicate those shitty feelings away..

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man....you need to ditch women

take time to mend yourself
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Go to clinic, ask referral letter to meet specialist psychiatrist. Then at hospital be frank about ur stories.. n tell him/her u need anti depressent pills. Luvox gives u focus n make u stay on your toes, at the same time eradicate those shitty feelings away..
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I cant just walk in to GH myself?
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man....you need to ditch women

take time to mend yourself
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I cant just ditch someone I love right.

Yeah I know gotta take time to bring myself up as well. Thank you. I'm really trying my best.
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I cant just walk in to GH myself?
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masuk poliklinik of any government hospital first.

must go through general diagnosis with the GP before being referred to specialists.
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masuk poliklinik of any government hospital first.

must go through general diagnosis with the GP before being referred to specialists.
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Inside GH dont have GP kah? Sorry never went through this process before.
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Inside GH dont have GP kah? Sorry never went through this process before.
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the poliklinik usually is situated right next to the hospital like a siamese twin.

or right within like UMMC, before you get referred to its other buildings where the specialists are.

masuk and tanya the guard, don't shy shy. malaysians are still friendly, well, mostly.
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QUOTE(buysellaccount @ Nov 9 2019, 08:32 AM)
the poliklinik usually is situated right next to the hospital like a siamese twin.

or right within like UMMC, before you get referred to its other buildings where the specialists are.

masuk and tanya the guard, don't shy shy. malaysians are still friendly, well, mostly.
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Oh really? I thought the poliklinik at my town is away from the GH. Maybe there's another poliklinik inside which I never realise.

Thank you so much!
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I cant just ditch someone I love right.

Yeah I know gotta take time to bring myself up as well. Thank you. I'm really trying my best.
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can actually

you're just holding to sentiment too much

if you love something that it hurts you badly,
then something is not right

most of the time you had to let it go, and see the other side that you've not tapped into

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can actually

you're just holding to sentiment too much

if you love something that it hurts you badly,
then something is not right

most of the time you had to let it go, and see the other side that you've not tapped into
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She did not hurt me badly. I hurt myself badly.

What do you mean see the other side that I have not tapped into?
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She did not hurt me badly. I hurt myself badly.

What do you mean see the other side that I have not tapped into?
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doesn't matter who hurt who. the fact doesnt change that you got hurt
and only masochist hurt themselves

also since you're quite dense, i give some example

life without depending on women(for casual hangout, for affection, for anything)
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QUOTE(Zanei Gundan @ Nov 9 2019, 10:05 AM)
doesn't matter who hurt who. the fact doesnt change that you got hurt
and only masochist hurt themselves

also since you're quite dense, i give some example

life without depending on women(for casual hangout, for affection, for anything)
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Casual hangout for affection?
You enjoy doing that? Going for casual flings?
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Oh really? I thought the poliklinik at my town is away from the GH. Maybe there's another poliklinik inside which I never realise.

Thank you so much!
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I would suggest to use drugs only as a last resort. Just hang in there and you will get thru your anxiety attack. I myself had previously experience anxiety attacks that disrupt sleep (due to work stress) and my friend as well. Both of us managed to overcome it without medication and the anxiety attack at nights went away.

You can so it. Just hang in there.

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I would suggest to use drugs only as a last resort. Just hang in there and you will get thru your anxiety attack. I myself had previously experience anxiety attacks that disrupt sleep (due to work stress) and my friend as well. Both of us managed to overcome it without medication and the anxiety attack at nights went away.

You can so it. Just hang in there.
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I know if I hang in there, maybe after few weeks maybe one month it will go away. But its really suffering to be anxious for nothing. Like this moment typing to you, I can feel my heart beating so fast like something is gonna happen but I dont know what. And really hard to breath at times.
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I know if I hang in there, maybe after few weeks maybe one month it will go away. But its really suffering to be anxious for nothing. Like this moment typing to you, I can feel my heart beating so fast like something is gonna happen but I dont know what. And really hard to breath at times.
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I wouldn't say you are suffering to be anxious for nothing. I would say what you are experiencing now is your mind and body trying to process and coming to terms with guilt and loss.
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I wouldn't say you are suffering to be anxious for nothing. I would say what you are experiencing now is your mind and body trying to process and coming to terms with guilt and loss.
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Yeahh this is true. Coping with guilt, loss and shame as well.
Also, the feeling not be able to communicate with her is also killing me. But I know I cannot be so self centered and keep thinking of myself only. I have to respect her space to heal herself first.
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Yeahh this is true. Coping with guilt, loss and shame as well.
Also, the feeling not be able to communicate with her is also killing me. But I know I cannot be so self centered and keep thinking of myself only. I have to respect her space to heal herself first.
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Yeah.. This part is a bit harder. Maybe like a guy previously suggested you can write her a letter or something. A gentle reminder that you are still here waiting and willing to make things right again.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 9 2019, 03:07 PM)
Yeah.. This part is a bit harder. Maybe like a guy previously suggested you can write her a letter or something. A gentle reminder that you are still here waiting and willing to make things right again.
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Thank you bro. Since a lot of ppl mention about letter, I will give it a shot. Just tricky to find the right time to pass it to her.

Today worked the whole day even it's public holiday. Night time I volunteered at my church kindergarten graduation and concert. Seeing those cute little kids lifted my mood up. Since I can't figure out my own stuff right now, might as well bless others. Hopefully can sleep better tonight.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 9 2019, 10:55 PM)
Thank you bro. Since a lot of ppl mention about letter, I will give it a shot. Just tricky to find the right time to pass it to her.

Today worked the whole day even it's public holiday. Night time I volunteered at my church kindergarten graduation and concert. Seeing those cute little kids lifted my mood up. Since I can't figure out my own stuff right now, might as well bless others. Hopefully can sleep better tonight.
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Good to hear you had a fruitful day. Hope you get a well deserved rest Bro. smile.gif

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Damn.. Your issues are much more bigger than mine, stay strong, things will get much, much better with time.
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Good to hear you had a fruitful day. Hope you get a well deserved rest Bro. smile.gif
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I did get long sleep last night. Was reading on my phone and accidentally fell asleep. That was how tired I am.

Actually last night I texted her. I saw her insta story she went to KL so I texted her at night 'Take care yourself in KL' and she replied at 11pm when I already fell asleep. This morning she called me when I was in church but then texted me saying press wrongly and asked me if I can put her parcel into her letter box. She sent it to my address before. I just replied Ok. Please dont stop praying. I will be rooting for you.

Its really painful to not be able to talk like how we used to.


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QUOTE(Snoopycute98 @ Nov 10 2019, 12:22 PM)
Damn.. Your issues are much more bigger than mine, stay strong, things will get much, much better with time.
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Thank you bro. Appreciate your kind words.

Yeah lets hang in there. I dont know what you are facing but I'm trying to desperately hang in here. Not easy. Definitely not easy. But people here make it better. I'm hanging on to a thread of hope things will be better.


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I did get long sleep last night. Was reading on my phone and accidentally fell asleep. That was how tired I am.

Actually last night I texted her. I saw her insta story she went to KL so I texted her at night 'Take care yourself in KL' and she replied at 11pm when I already fell asleep. This morning she called me when I was in church but then texted me saying press wrongly and asked me if I can put her parcel into her letter box. She sent it to my address before. I just replied Ok. Please dont stop praying. I will be rooting for you.

Its really painful to not be able to talk like how we used to.
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Happy to hear you had an uninterrupted sleep yesterday. I know you yearn for things to go back as before with her.. But as I often tell myself when things are not so good : 'hey, things could have been much worse.' At least both of you are still on speaking terms. There is still hope.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 10 2019, 01:42 PM)
Happy to hear you had an uninterrupted sleep yesterday. I know you yearn for things to go back as before with her.. But as I often tell myself when things are not so good : 'hey, things could have been much worse.' At least both of you are still on speaking terms. There is still hope.
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Yeah I had enough sleep but still I did wake up a couple of times at night feeling anxious. But manageable and not as bad as previous nights.

Yeah I told myself too at least she still reply me even though short. Though she did not reply my last message but its okay. I will keep trying. It's really like hope for the best prepare for the worst. I'm not giving up on this relationship yet. I know it will take quite sometimes but I need to persevere. Really thanks bro.

Next time I go KL lets have a meal together.
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Yeah I had enough sleep but still I did wake up a couple of times at night feeling anxious. But manageable and not as bad as previous nights.

Yeah I told myself too at least she still reply me even though short. Though she did not reply my last message but its okay. I will keep trying. It's really like hope for the best prepare for the worst. I'm not giving up on this relationship yet. I know it will take quite sometimes but I need to persevere. Really thanks bro.

Next time I go KL lets have a meal together.
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A meal together sounds good. Haha. I recently however just moved back to Penang, but do visit KL from time to time. So we'll see how things goes.

I do agree to hope for the best & prepare for the worst. Just try your best. smile.gif
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 10 2019, 06:27 PM)
A meal together sounds good. Haha. I recently however just moved back to Penang, but do visit KL from time to time. So we'll see how things goes.

I do agree to hope for the best & prepare for the worst. Just try your best.  smile.gif
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Ok bro. Sure thing. Thanks for being here.

So just now, I told her my dog passed away and managed to talk to her on the phone. I think she also soften her heart to talk to me and we managed to talk for an hour. We talk about our problems and struggle together in a very civil manner. Then towards the end, she said she felt angry as the longer she talked to me. Toxic thought slowly crept into her mind and she start asking about the other girl. She said she kept thinking we had something physical in the past. I said no we did not. And she said she doesn't wanna be toxic and say all these things. She said she doesn't know what identity she should play while listening to my problem. She doesn't wanna be responsible towards my problem since we already broke up. I ask her what toxic thought is on her mind and share it to me. Don't suppress everything to herself. She was struggling to tell me. Then I told her to get a nice shower first and we continue to talk again later. Hopefully will go well.
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After that we managed to talk a while more. She seemed better after shower and she doesnt want to talk about the toxic thoughts. I told her she might feel better after letting it out. So she told me when she see other girls in yoga, she felt that I would prefer each one of them more than her. It was her self esteem being crushed by me. I told her nope it wasnt the case. I assure her telling her I am still here for her and reminded how I chased her for 3 years and our relationship was special cause it involved God in between. My other relationship werent like that. Then we talk about how I never thought of settling down but I let her know I thought of it every single day. However, I just quit my job and started my own business so I was feeling very insecure about my finances. Hopefully all these are enough to reassure her and reaffirm her my intention. Really pray she can put this mistake behind her after a period of time.

Sigh, some mistake you carry them into the grave with you.
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Seems like you are on the right track. Very much agree with you that both of you need to talk about it, let it out and don't bottle it up. She may sound toxic but maybe that is just jealously perhaps?

Not sure whether u done this already or not, and not sure whether it will ultimately help or hinder things.. but I would suggest you to really really be frank and share with her how you ended up making your mistake and what caused it. I hope that this would at least let her understand your side of the situation and the underlying conditions that may have nudge you to do what you did.

The above might also help prevent her from generating wild theories inside her head as to why you did what u did, because she would know why u did it instead of imagining you did it because you find others more attractive than her for example.

And yes.. Some mistakes you cant really correct and make right again. We all learn this the hard way, but we do our best to overcome it and be a better person at the end of the ordeal. Stay strong my friend. You can do it. smile.gif

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i understand how you feel... i did a lot of bad shits before... and i mean a lot and a lot and a lot of bad shits

you just gotta stop regretting the past. you know you did wrong, so that's it. let it be. regretting wont change anything. but moving on and doing better will make things better.

the present and future are far more important than the past. there's no point lingering in the past and trying to fix the past because YOU CANT! but YOU CAN fix your present and future.

i just kept telling myself shits will get better, no matter what happened, my destiny and fate are in my hands. i control what is going to happen. nothing is gonna get in my way.
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wait wait.
she never have lust for other guy?
I mean, that's more normal.

why the issue keep on pressuring you have cheong with other girl?
Did you?


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TS,

i felt you are lonely once i see your story right ? To be truthful to you and i hope i wont offended you.

Moral of story you can't let go the past and live on ...Keep on putting in your heart and also scared ppl know your secret & stuff like this..

well i also been thru alots of things but what i can advise is you must let go the things from past if not you live in unhappy and depressed ...

well no matter what life must go on and dont stop just keep on moving forward & find hobbies like me i have stress so i divert my mind to another things learning japanese so till now...

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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 09:55 AM)
Seems like you are on the right track. Very much agree with you that both of you need to talk about it, let it out and don't bottle it up. She may sound toxic but maybe that is just jealously perhaps?

Not sure whether u done this already or not, and not sure whether it will ultimately help or hinder things.. but I would suggest you to really really be frank and share with her how you ended up making your mistake and what caused it. I hope that this would at least let her understand your side of the situation and the underlying conditions that may have nudge you to do what you did.

The above might also help prevent her from generating wild theories inside her head as to why you did what u did, because she would know why u did it instead of imagining you did it because you find others more attractive than her for example.

And yes.. Some mistakes you cant really correct and make right again. We all learn this the hard way, but we do our best to overcome it and be a better person at the end of the ordeal. Stay strong my friend. You can do it. smile.gif
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Not jealousy. She has toxic thoughts but she is not being toxic. Toxic thoughts due to the loss in trust and self esteem. Like she will think badly about me, fooling her in this relationship, taking advantage of her all these things. Another toxic thoughts is like she said she think I had physical relationship with this girl before which I did not.

Yes I have shared with her how did I make this mistake and fully own up to my mistake.

I know I gotta learn the hard way I know I need to be a better person. I was so close to the finishing line and why do I fell and did what I do. It's very hard to get over what I did.
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QUOTE(leah235 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:00 AM)
wait wait.
she never have lust for other guy?
I mean, that's more normal.

why the issue keep on pressuring you have cheong with other girl?
Did you?
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No I did not cheong with that other girl.

She never lust towards other guy as well. She's very disciplined in this. She doesnt even follow like celebs in social media or what.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 10:43 AM)
i understand how you feel... i did a lot of bad shits before... and i mean a lot and a lot and a lot of bad shits

you just gotta stop regretting the past. you know you did wrong, so that's it. let it be. regretting wont change anything. but moving on and doing better will make things better.

the present and future are far more important than the past. there's no point lingering in the past and trying to fix the past because YOU CANT! but YOU CAN fix your present and future.

i just kept telling myself shits will get better, no matter what happened, my destiny and fate are in my hands. i control what is going to happen. nothing is gonna get in my way.
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I just fear she wont be here anymore in the future. I cannot control this anymore.

I wanna be better but at the same time I have so much fear for the future.
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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:54 AM)
TS,

i felt you are lonely once i see your story right ? To be truthful to you and i hope i wont offended you.

Moral of story you can't let go the past and live on ...Keep on putting in your heart and also scared ppl know your secret & stuff like this..

well i also been thru alots of things but what i can advise is you must let go the things from past if not you live in unhappy and depressed ...

well no matter what life must go on and dont stop just keep on moving forward & find hobbies like me i have stress so i divert my mind to another things learning japanese so till now...
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Yes. I'm a very lonely person. I feel very empty at night when I go home and there's no one at home. I'm not a social person so I dont have a lot of friends to hang out with. I mean I have friends but I just dont find them to hang out. I wanna be alone at times but I hate being lonely. If you get what I mean.

I cant let go of the mistake I did you know. I cant live normally putting this mistake behind me. I feel like this mistake has cost me my entire future and I can only blame myself for this. I hate myself and I hate my life. I might have slight depression I dont know but for now its hard to feel happy.

Find hobbies? I cant seem to be interested in anything. All I do is force myself to play a bit of games to take my mind off the whole issue. But after that? I return to the same point beating myself over and over again for what I have done. I cant tell my family or any friends I have. I really hope someone can just be my side and give me a big hug and tell me I'm not a failure.
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My friend, you are not a failure. You just need to learn to forgive yourself. smile.gif
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After our conversation last night, she texted me just now.

: I want to tell you that you dont need to make so much effort trying to explain yourself anymore, you have explained enough. I do acknowledged your struggles, problems you face but I'm not in the position to help nor a good listener.

Truth is while you are still in a relationship you chose to flirt with another girl and disrespect your partner, action speaks louder than words.

I will not hold grudges on to it and we should all move on from this.

I replied:

I explain not to justify my actions but so you know where I am coming from. I take 100% responsibility of what I did and I know the damage I caused to both of us. That is why I keep telling you if you're gonna believe one thing, let it be its not you're insufficient. It's my issues my problem lead me to do whatever I have done. I fell to this temptation and ya this is something I knew wrong yet chose to do. I was powerless in the face of sin and I stumble. I am sorry my sin caused so much pain to you when you are not the one committing it. I was close to the finishing line yet I fell. But I hope you realise I wanted to complete this with you and go beyond. Please dont remember me for this mistake I have done.

I hope you believe what I said last night. I will still keep praying for you and for God's will on this relationship.



So really, tell me how can I forgive myself? I just wanna die sometimes.
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Yes. I'm a very lonely person. I feel very empty at night when I go home and there's no one at home. I'm not a social person so I dont have a lot of friends to hang out with. I mean I have friends but I just dont find them to hang out. I wanna be alone at times but I hate being lonely. If you get what I mean.

I cant let go of the mistake I did you know. I cant live normally putting this mistake behind me. I feel like this mistake has cost me my entire future and I can only blame myself for this. I hate myself and I hate my life. I might have slight depression I dont know but for now its hard to feel happy.

Find hobbies? I cant seem to be interested in anything. All I do is force myself to play a bit of games to take my mind off the whole issue. But after that? I return to the same point beating myself over and over again for what I have done. I cant tell my family or any friends I have. I really hope someone can just be my side and give me a big hug and tell me I'm not a failure.
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So really, tell me how can I forgive myself?
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It's hurting really bad now right?.. But it's gonna be alright my friend. You're doing the best you can, and you are gonna get better. Just hang in there a bit longer my friend smile.gif
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 01:49 PM)
After our conversation last night, she texted me just now.

: I want to tell you that you dont need to make so much effort trying to explain yourself anymore, you have explained enough. I do acknowledged your struggles, problems you face but I'm not in the position to help nor a good listener.

Truth is while you are still in a relationship you chose to flirt with another girl and disrespect your partner, action speaks louder than words.

I will not hold grudges on to it and we should all move on from this.

I replied:

I explain not to justify my actions but so you know where I am coming from. I take 100% responsibility of what I did and I know the damage I caused to both of us. That is why I keep telling you if you're gonna believe one thing, let it be its not you're insufficient. It's my issues my problem lead me to do whatever I have done. I fell to this temptation and ya this is something I knew wrong yet chose to do. I was powerless in the face of sin and I stumble. I am sorry my sin caused so much pain to you when you are not the one committing it. I was close to the finishing line yet I fell. But I hope you realise I wanted to complete this with you and go beyond. Please dont remember me for this mistake I have done.

I hope you believe what I said last night. I will still keep praying for you and for God's will on this relationship.
So really, tell me how can I forgive myself? I just wanna die sometimes.
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chii think you need to let go. she isn't coming back.
you need to let go of this path
she is not going to complete the journey with you.
sinners will walk a different path, sinners are different....you are already different, done deal.

u forgive yourself by bringing happiness to another different girl, make her happy, start your hopes with her.
u can forgive but never forget, just forge forward and one day you will understand, this wasn't meant to be.
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My mum always told me that you have everything, u got money, u got job, u got car, u got etc etc etc. So there is no point for u being sad.

Plus she always mention to me that there is a lot of woman in this world which much better than wat I have now. So be happy.

I don't blame u tho, I'm at same situation with u right now but more worst she is my wife. But yeah, life need to go out.

I just back from clinic tho, doctor said I have depression. I need to solve this ASAP or else it will hurt me over and over. Just be happy with what u have right now. U'll be better. We need to move on, orang dah tak suka why we still paksa. Let go, if she's ur she will be back. If she's not, someone much better than her will come very soon.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 01:43 PM)
Yes. I'm a very lonely person. I feel very empty at night when I go home and there's no one at home. I'm not a social person so I dont have a lot of friends to hang out with. I mean I have friends but I just dont find them to hang out. I wanna be alone at times but I hate being lonely. If you get what I mean.

I cant let go of the mistake I did you know. I cant live normally putting this mistake behind me. I feel like this mistake has cost me my entire future and I can only blame myself for this. I hate myself and I hate my life. I might have slight depression I dont know but for now its hard to feel happy.

Find hobbies? I cant seem to be interested in anything. All I do is force myself to play a bit of games to take my mind off the whole issue. But after that? I return to the same point beating myself over and over again for what I have done. I cant tell my family or any friends I have. I really hope someone can just be my side and give me a big hug and tell me I'm not a failure.
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TS,

you are not big failure person , do you what it mean of failure?

u r thinking too much aldy and i think you need to find
positive vibes maybe go holiday trip so you will meet
new friends and adventure...

if you need someone to talk or giving suggestion ,
you can pm me if you want ...

the best advise from me dont be alone because auto our brain simply think alot of things

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 01:37 PM)
I just fear she wont be here anymore in the future. I cannot control this anymore.

I wanna be better but at the same time I have so much fear for the future.
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never fear, keep that burning desire that you have for her to fuel your passion
you gotta give it your all, fight with whatever that you have

no matter what the future brings, you much first get rid of your fears.
you dont have to let her, but you still have to do better yourself

focus on making yourself a better person, a better man.
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My friend, you are not a failure. You just need to learn to forgive yourself. smile.gif
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It's hurting really bad now right?.. But it's gonna be alright my friend. You're doing the best you can, and you are gonna get better. Just hang in there a bit longer my friend smile.gif
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QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 11 2019, 02:14 PM)
chii think you need to let go. she isn't coming back.
you need to let go of this path
she is not going to complete the journey with you.
sinners will walk a different path, sinners are different....you are already different, done deal.

u forgive yourself by bringing happiness to another different girl, make her happy, start your hopes with her.
u can forgive but never forget, just forge forward and one day you will understand, this wasn't meant to be.
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I really dont wanna think of other different girl now.

Yes she isnt coming back now but I just wanna hang in to that tiny hope. Please just let me hang in to that tiny hope that there's still a way if God allows in the future.
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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 11 2019, 02:15 PM)
Still remember me?

My mum always told me that you have everything, u got money, u got job, u got car, u got etc etc etc. So there is no point for u being sad.

Plus she always mention to me that there is a lot of woman in this world which much better than wat I have now. So be happy.

I don't blame u tho, I'm at same situation with u right now but more worst she is my wife. But yeah, life need to go out.

I just back from clinic tho, doctor said I have depression. I need to solve this ASAP or else it will hurt me over and over. Just be happy with what u have right now. U'll be better. We need to move on, orang dah tak suka why we still paksa. Let go, if she's ur she will be back. If she's not, someone much better than her will come very soon.
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Yes.

But bro, I read your story again you still have hope right? 1 month is not even up and you dont know for certain she will leave you. I mean both of your are husband and wife so its not that easy for her to give up as well.

Why your mom so firm on wanting you guys to divorce?
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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 02:16 PM)
TS,

you are not big failure person , do you what it mean of failure?

u r thinking too much aldy and i think you need to find
positive vibes maybe go holiday trip so you will meet
new friends and adventure...

if you need someone to talk or giving suggestion ,
you can pm me if you want ...

the best advise from me dont be alone because auto our brain simply think alot of things
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What it mean of failure?

Thanks for your good intention. But for now really very difficult for me to make new friends or think of any adventure. Heck I cant even reconnect with old friends. I mean I could have open up to a lot of ppl but I choose not to. I hardly can open up to guys and I know she wont like it if I open to my girl friends. But I know my girl friends are the one who would be there to comfort me if I choose to. That's why I find my comfort here.

Dont be alone but really most of the time I'm alone. Dinner alone. Lunch alone. Tonight I'm going to Starbucks alone so I get surrounded by people.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 02:46 PM)
never fear, keep that burning desire that you have for her to fuel your passion
you gotta give it your all, fight with whatever that you have

no matter what the future brings, you much first get rid of your fears.
you dont have to let her, but you still have to do better yourself

focus on making yourself a better person, a better man.
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This is what I keep telling myself.

Either I wanna fight for her to come back or move on for better life, I need to stand up and improve. But its just not easy at this stage when self-blame,self harm is so strong.
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What it mean of failure?

Thanks for your good intention. But for now really very difficult for me to make new friends or think of any adventure. Heck I cant even reconnect with old friends. I mean I could have open up to a lot of ppl but I choose not to. I hardly can open up to guys and I know she wont like it if I open to my girl friends. But I know my girl friends are the one who would be there to comfort me if I choose to. That's why I find my comfort here.

Dont be alone but really most of the time I'm alone. Dinner alone. Lunch alone. Tonight I'm going to Starbucks alone so I get surrounded by people.
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that's why your heart intention keep on closing like window
not willing to open .hard to breath it just imagine without oksigen....

well the choice is in your hands , you want to make move or not?
up to you..

decision in yr hands...
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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 03:58 PM)
that's why your heart intention keep on closing like window
not willing to open .hard to breath it just imagine without oksigen....

well the choice is in your hands , you want to make move or not?
up to you..

decision in yr hands...
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It feels like you know she is suffering because of me and I cant just be taking new adventures and recover by my own. Somehow later feel like I'm not even guilty or remorse for whatever I have done.

You get the deep dark hole I'm stuck at?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 04:05 PM)
It feels like you know she is suffering because of me and I cant just be taking new adventures and recover by my own. Somehow later feel like I'm not even guilty or remorse for whatever I have done.

You get the deep dark hole I'm stuck at?
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i know how u feel when u alone in deep dark hole , cold and shivering
cause i have experince be4

is just how u climb out of it or remain stuck?
up to you i did told you , decision is in yr hands


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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 04:19 PM)
i know how u feel when u alone in deep dark hole , cold and shivering
cause i have experince be4

is just how u climb out of it or remain stuck?
up to you i did told you , decision is in yr hands
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I wanna be out of it but I dont want while I'm out she is still inside it when I am at fault. Does it make sense to you?

How did you overcome yours?
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I wanna be out of it but I dont want while I'm out she is still inside it when I am at fault. Does it make sense to you?

How did you overcome yours?
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to tell you the truth, it is not magic okay , say is easy but once you do it will be very hard
and it takes 1 years plus to be honest i divert my thinking to
learning new language ....

so the more i concentrate and the more i forget

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to tell you the truth, it is not magic okay , say is easy but once you do it will be very hard
and it takes 1 years plus to be honest i divert my thinking to
learning new language ....

so the more i concentrate and the more i forget
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1 year plus....did you go through similarly what I went through?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 03:49 PM)
Yes.

But bro, I read your story again you still have hope right? 1 month is not even up and you dont know for certain she will leave you. I mean both of your are husband and wife so its not that easy for her to give up as well.

Why your mom so firm on wanting you guys to divorce?
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Not so firm, just saying that there is alot of fish out there to catch.

So losing 1 won't give any different that wat she said.

But I insist that I wanna be wif her.

So now try to pujuk back. Trying hard now but in same time trying not to make her feel annoying wif me.


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QUOTE(HafeesFadil @ Nov 11 2019, 05:02 PM)
Not so firm, just saying that there is alot of fish out there to catch.

So losing 1 won't give any different that wat she said.

But I insist that I wanna be wif her.

So now try to pujuk back. Trying hard now but in same time trying not to make her feel annoying wif me.
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Did she respond to you? How long left until 1 month is up?

I will pray for you bro. Hang in there. You are in a better position than me because not all is lost in your case.

Do you mind sharing what's the cause of that 1 month break?
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Not so firm, just saying that there is alot of fish out there to catch.

So losing 1 won't give any different that wat she said.

But I insist that I wanna be wif her.

So now try to pujuk back. Trying hard now but in same time trying not to make her feel annoying wif me.
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If I tell my mom, I'm sure she will throw all the blame to me. And accuse me for not treating her well and all. And say I deserve all this.

Really envy those ppl who's family stand beside them thick and thin.
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1 year plus....did you go through similarly what I went through?
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More worst but it always depends to you in yr mind

To tell you the truth, nobody except you stand out of dark hole

Always treat yrself aa super hero that can able to give more challenges to you

Friends always supportive but decision is in yr hands whether you want to adapt it , avoid it
Or face it...

Mind keep on playing all the scenario when u are alone so what i can say explore it in yr own eyes and see what u can do ...

Face it or adapt it or accept it
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This is what I keep telling myself.

Either I wanna fight for her to come back or move on for better life, I need to stand up and improve. But its just not easy at this stage when self-blame,self harm is so strong.
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that's why turn it the other way. you know you can be better, you know you want to be better.

it's all in your mind, you control your mind, not your mind controls you.

you are the owner of your body, never ever forgets that.

how you want to think, what you want to be, is all up to you.

force yourself to be positive.

i did some shitty stuff, was in a fucking deep hell hole that i almost gave up. i almost wanted it all to end just like that. i was this close. i was the point just fuck it, the world is useless.

but i got over it, nothing can bring me down. the harder the challenge, the bigger my fuel to fight through it.

i just dont give a shit about anything anymore (not in a way of killing myself), but more to no negativity.

when i set my mind to it, means i can and will do it.

remember.. it's all in your mind. your mind the most powerful tool you have. dont underestimate your own mind.

learn to control your mind and you can control everything else.
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QUOTE(adeline84 @ Nov 11 2019, 05:57 PM)
More worst but it always depends to you in yr mind

To tell you the truth, nobody except you stand out of dark hole

Always treat yrself aa super hero that can able to give more challenges to you

Friends always supportive but decision is in yr hands whether you want to adapt it , avoid it
Or face it...

Mind keep on playing all the scenario when u are alone so what i can say explore it in yr own eyes and see what u can do ...

Face it or adapt it or accept it
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Thanks.

You have been through a lot and yet here you are, giving me advice. One year later, I will be better than where I am now.
Hard for me to find my friends now for comfort. I cant open up yet.

So for now, you guys here gonna be my comfort.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 06:13 PM)
that's why turn it the other way. you know you can be better, you know you want to be better.

it's all in your mind, you control your mind, not your mind controls you.

you are the owner of your body, never ever forgets that.

how you want to think, what you want to be, is all up to you.

force yourself to be positive.

i did some shitty stuff, was in a fucking deep hell hole that i almost gave up. i almost wanted it all to end just like that. i was this close. i was the point just fuck it, the world is useless.

but i got over it, nothing can bring me down. the harder the challenge, the bigger my fuel to fight through it.

i just dont give a shit about anything anymore (not in a way of killing myself), but more to no negativity.

when i set my mind to it, means i can and will do it.

remember.. it's all in your mind. your mind the most powerful tool you have. dont underestimate your own mind.

learn to control your mind and you can control everything else.
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If you are me, how would you think to be positive when things like that happened? When you're the one committing the mistake?

What shitty stuff did you do?
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Hey Bro, at Starbucks now? How're you doing?
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I reached Starbucks but I did not go down. I was a mess as I cried hard in the car while the day was going dark. Day gets dark earlier here. It wasnt a good day today. I stayed in the car for almost 3 hours listening to Youtube on self forgiveness but I fell asleep in between. Decided to drive back home cause I feel like I need a hot shower.
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Why you always take shit.

Anyway even comment like that also distract me to reply you. Thanks.
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How u feel now TS?
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I still feel hopeless to be honest. There are times I am still in the self blame and self hatred loop. Really hard to break away from this pattern. Everyday my thoughts are I just wanna get through the today. Live the day as it is. No plans for tomorrow. I also feel like the whole world is gonna judge me. People around me is going to be so disappointed with me. People around her will tell her I am not worth it.

Anyway, I need to return her parcel to her later so I will drive to her house and drop it into her mailbox later at night to avoid meeting her family members.
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Why you always take shit.

Anyway even comment like that also distract me to reply you. Thanks.
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Thanks.

You have been through a lot and yet here you are, giving me advice. One year later, I will be better than where I am now.
Hard for me to find my friends now for comfort. I cant open up yet.

So for now, you guys here gonna be my comfort.
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You are most welcome and i hope it helps

Just think yourself capt. America , where he has inspiration to save the planet call earth
You can see the avengers the end game , what it become ...sad, blaming, crying .....

What i can see without give up is hope..always there's hope inside us
So let the hope to gain it much stronger without giving up

All the best to you .,.anything you cant think or needed suggestion , you can pm me
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If you are me, how would you think to be positive when things like that happened? When you're the one committing the mistake?

What shitty stuff did you do?
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I cheated on my then gf and now wife. and I again cheated on my wife. I almost went out with another girl, I talked to many girls, I went out to party and drink without my wife. I even gambled my savings away. So many shits that I have done and I do feel guilty. And it is the guilt that keeps me going. Because I know I made so many mistakes, then it is only right for me to make things right again.

For every mistake that I did, I have to do tons and tons more of good things to repent.

I force myself to be better and use the guilt to fuel myself. That is the only way...
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Bro. Must have been a long long day for you. Do take a hot shower when you get back & drink a cup of hot milo. Try to get some rest. Get better slowly step by step, live to fight another day.

We're here for you Bro. smile.gif
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I still feel hopeless to be honest. There are times I am still in the self blame and self hatred loop. Really hard to break away from this pattern. Everyday my thoughts are I just wanna get through the today. Live the day as it is. No plans for tomorrow. I also feel like the whole world is gonna judge me. People around me is going to be so disappointed with me. People around her will tell her I am not worth it.

Anyway, I need to return her parcel to her later so I will drive to her house and drop it into her mailbox later at night to avoid meeting her family members.
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Goodluck buddy. I felt that way too.

Hopefully you're doing okay.

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You are most welcome and i hope it helps

Just think yourself capt. America , where he has inspiration to save the planet call earth
You can see the avengers the end game , what it become ...sad, blaming, crying .....

What i can see without give up is hope..always there's hope inside us
So let the hope to gain it much stronger without giving up

All the best to you .,.anything you cant think or needed suggestion , you can pm me
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I'm really nothing like Captain America. A lot of people think I'm a good guy like I dont drink smoke party, own a business that helps other, bought own house but the fact is I'm all broken inside. Then I do shit like that.
Sigh.

But yeah, all of you guys more or less have been trying to help me to move forward. A lot of kind soul here. I owe it to you guys to get better.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 11 2019, 10:54 PM)
I cheated on my then gf and now wife. and I again cheated on my wife. I almost went out with another girl, I talked to many girls, I went out to party and drink without my wife. I even gambled my savings away. So many shits that I have done and I do feel guilty. And it is the guilt that keeps me going. Because I know I made so many mistakes, then it is only right for me to make things right again.

For every mistake that I did, I have to do tons and tons more of good things to repent.

I force myself to be better and use the guilt to fuel myself. That is the only way...
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Did she find out and chose to stick with you? Or she never did?

But anyway what you did was admirable. How you turn everything around.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:05 PM)
Bro. Must have been a long long day for you. Do take a hot shower when you get back & drink a cup of hot milo. Try to get some rest. Get better slowly step by step, live to fight another day.

We're here for you Bro. smile.gif
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Yeah but one day at a time. Just keep telling myself I will survive today and I survived today. Then tomorrow repeat again.

Sadly, my house no milo. My house got nothing except for water. I have a house, not a home. But luckily got hot shower.

Thank you bro. You really here for me damn. You are like the brother I never had.
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QUOTE(reed90 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:18 PM)
Goodluck buddy. I felt that way too.

Hopefully you're doing okay.
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Thank you buddy!

Why did you feel this way as well? What happened if you dont mind to share?
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Damn I though I was reading about myself at the first parts. Especially with the strict dad and him passing away early due to cancer. Also with the Christianity and all.

Read all through and I felt compassion towards you. Do continue to pray for the better and don't give up in whatever your circumstances maybe now.

“Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6-7.

Also if haven't watch this yet, do give it a shot. It's about the life of Job. That despite all his suffering and misery, he remained faithful (thought he did almost give up) (also his suffering and misery was allowed by God). https://youtu.be/GswSg2ohqmA

Pray for the best and God bless you. Even if you think you are alone, God is still with you.

Also if you realise that you've sinned. Great for the realization. As Jesus said to the adulterous woman in John 8:11, "Go and sin no more."

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QUOTE(Imagination *-* @ Nov 11 2019, 11:40 PM)
Damn I though I was reading about myself at the first parts. Especially with the strict dad and him passing away early due to cancer. Also with the Christianity and all.

Read all through and I felt compassion towards you. Do continue to pray for the better and don't give up in whatever your circumstances maybe now.

“Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.” Philippians 4:6-7.

Also if haven't watch this yet, do give it a shot. It's about the life of Job. That despite all his suffering and misery, he remained faithful (thought he did almost give up) (also his suffering and misery was allowed by God). https://youtu.be/GswSg2ohqmA

Pray for the best and God bless you. Even if you think you are alone, God is still with you.

Also if you realise that you've sinned. Great for the realization. As Jesus said to the adulterous woman in John 8:11, "Go and sin no more."
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Hey! Thanks for your kind word and encouragement.

A lot of similarities between us. But nothing to be proud of cause its not good thing. Hope you are doing better than I am. Yeap, prayer is the best I can do for now. Actually it should be the first thing I need to do but very often we put it the only thing we can do when we are up against the wall.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:20 PM)
Did she find out and chose to stick with you? Or she never did?

But anyway what you did was admirable. How you turn everything around.
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She did find out. And she did leave for a moment. I had to overcome my own stupidity and lust. I became a better person to show her that I can change. Slowly, it took some time. But we are now back together.

You can do it too. You just have to believe in yourself. Change your mind. You are in control. You have to keep repeating that to yourself. Your mind is under your control.

You can do whatever you want. Just keep being positive. Overcome your fear. Let the guilt turn you into a better person.
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4am type 1 page of long story.

Con9Lan7cbFirm this is real. Either that or TS really has nothing better to do in life.
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She did find out. And she did leave for a moment. I had to overcome my own stupidity and lust. I became a better person to show her that I can change. Slowly, it took some time. But we are now back together.

You can do it too. You just have to believe in yourself. Change your mind. You are in control. You have to keep repeating that to yourself. Your mind is under your control.

You can do whatever you want. Just keep being positive. Overcome your fear. Let the guilt turn you into a better person.
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You're actually a testimonial that people can get back together again after they got separated. How long did she leave?
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Nov 12 2019, 12:15 AM)
4am type 1 page of long story.

Con9Lan7cbFirm this is real. Either that or TS really has nothing better to do in life.
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This is real and yeah, for now nothing better to do in life.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 11 2019, 11:23 PM)
Yeah but one day at a time. Just keep telling myself I will survive today and I survived today. Then tomorrow repeat again.

Sadly, my house no milo. My house got nothing except for water. I have a house, not a home. But luckily got hot shower.

Thank you bro. You really here for me damn. You are like the brother I never had.
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Haha. That's very nice of you to say that. Thank you. Try to get milo or chocolate next time, sometimes a warm drink helps to endure those long nights.

Try to get some rest. Tomorrow is a new day for you to get better again. smile.gif
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Haha. That's very nice of you to say that. Thank you. Try to get milo or chocolate next time, sometimes a warm drink helps to endure those long nights.

Try to get some rest. Tomorrow is a new day for you to get better again. smile.gif
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Yeah trying to just pass 1 day at a time.

You sleep very late too bro. Not working tomorrow?
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Yeah trying to just pass 1 day at a time.

You sleep very late too bro. Not working tomorrow?
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Good to know Bro. For me, I accidentally slept late today. Yes I am working tomorrow but I'll be fine with coffee. Haha.
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Good to know Bro. For me, I accidentally slept late today. Yes I am working tomorrow but I'll be fine with coffee. Haha.
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Sometimes feel like damn useless. Already so old at 31 still need to go through this and need people to help me some more.

Damn.
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Sometimes feel like damn useless. Already so old at 31 still need to go through this and need people to help me some more.

Damn.
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Well, to me everybody experience different things at different stages of life, and each experience is unique to the one who experienced them. Most people tend to have a common expectation of what is suppose to happen at which stage of life, but life is always full of surprises, right?

Not sure whether you got try playing some music or not.. But some soothing music like Canon in D may help adjust your mood a little. If you are not into music, then white noise such as sound of rain or the rain forest may help put your mind at ease. Worth a try.

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Well, to me everybody experience different things at different stages of life, and each experience is unique to the one who experienced them. Most people tend to have a common expectation of what is suppose to happen at which stage of life, but life is always full of surprises, right?

Not sure whether you got try playing some music or not.. But some soothing music like Canon in D may help adjust your mood a little. If you are not into music, then white noise such as sound of rain or the rain forest may help put your mind at ease. Worth a try.
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Gonna try to sleep now. Yeah I'm trying to listen to some instrumental worship song while sleeping. It does help to ease the anxiety but I still wake up feeling worried. At least can get a couple hours of sleep.

You too rest well okay.
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You're actually a testimonial that people can get back together again after they got separated. How long did she leave?
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about half a year. went back to stay at her parents. it was a real shitty time. kena condemn by both family and friends. it's worse than getting no support.

kena put down by your own family, kena boycott by friends. the feeling is way way worse.

but i just say fuck it, i'm gonna show them i am better than this. i can do better. there is nothing that i cannot overcome.

whatever shit you can throw at me, i will never turn my back and run. i will fight you head on.

so there's that... haha
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Bodo TS punya. Came here expose all his family's shortcomings, reveal how hypocritical his church gf is, see a comment criticising his family members, telling him how hypocriticial his gf and church is, butthurt and delete and report. If you cannot handle people making viewpoints about your close ones, don't come and write all their bad deeds. Damn bodo
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QUOTE(Sith Lord Darth Sidious @ Nov 12 2019, 09:41 AM)
Bodo TS punya. Came here expose all his family's shortcomings, reveal how hypocritical his church gf is, see a comment criticising his family members, telling him how hypocriticial his gf and church is, butthurt and delete and report. If you cannot handle people making viewpoints about your close ones, don't come and write all their bad deeds. Damn bodo
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OK boomer, and besides i am the one who reported you, not TS.

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OK boomer, and besides i am the one who reported you, not TS.
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Cool. Poor TS, take back my words.
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about half a year. went back to stay at her parents. it was a real shitty time. kena condemn by both family and friends. it's worse than getting no support.

kena put down by your own family, kena boycott by friends. the feeling is way way worse.

but i just say fuck it, i'm gonna show them i am better than this. i can do better. there is nothing that i cannot overcome.

whatever shit you can throw at me, i will never turn my back and run. i will fight you head on.

so there's that... haha
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Mind sharing what did you do to win her back? Did she open to communicating with you at the beginning?
Yeah getting condemn by people is really shitty. But admire your courage fighting head on. By fighting I think you mean to show them you really repented and not let negative comments bring you down right? You are showing them you love your wife and you'll do everything you can to prove it and not give up?
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Just saw her post in instastory. She uploaded a photo of herself in Yoga. Caption: Doesn't matter if I have to start over again but at least I know where I am heading to.

Heart feel like pierced so painful....
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 12 2019, 04:59 PM)
Just saw her post in instastory. She uploaded a photo of herself in Yoga. Caption: Doesn't matter if I have to start over again but at least I know where I am heading to.

Heart feel like pierced so painful....
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I suppose you can try to look on the bright side that she seems to be doing well. As they say.. If you truly love someone, you have to set them free.

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Normally when you hit rock bottom liddis, assuming you can bounce back you will bounce back even more higher
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I suppose you can try to look on the bright side that she seems to be doing well. As they say.. If you truly love someone, you have to set them free.
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But I know her well, she is far from doing well. She has a habit of putting a brave front. But yeah, for now I really cant do anything which sucks. Can only keep praying for her.
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Normally when you hit rock bottom liddis, assuming you can bounce back you will bounce back even more higher
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This is a big assumption assuming I can bounce back. I just wanna stand up back. Not thinking of bouncing back higher first.
Did you bounce back higher?
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This is a big assumption assuming I can bounce back. I just wanna stand up back. Not thinking of bouncing back higher first.
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I did bounced back, but not that high yet
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But I know her well, she is far from doing well. She has a habit of putting a brave front. But yeah, for now I really cant do anything which sucks. Can only keep praying for her.
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I think you better call befrienders bro if you really cant take it. Im a christian too, and as a christian brother I encourage you to go to church and get comfy there and talk to some pastors there as they can help you more in your struggles. Most of our struggles happen because God wants us to go closer to Him. I have my issues with my GF too and she's a christian also, and we do have our share of emotional, physical, mental and spiritual problems that we sometimes share with each other. But we do give it up to God in prayer and right now we are doing better than before. We are together for almost 2 years now, last year was a roller coaster, i dont want to share our stories here as i deem it private. But if you're eager to start a new, you can PM me and we talk further bro. smile.gif This could be your time to turn fully to God 100% for Him to work through you, and maybe your ex will see it and it all will end happily ever after. wink.gif

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Nov 12 2019, 08:34 PM)
I think you better call befrienders bro if you really cant take it. Im a christian too, and as a christian brother I encourage you to go to church and get comfy there and talk to some pastors there as they can help you more in your struggles. Most of our struggles happen because God wants us to go closer to Him. I have my issues with my GF too and she's a christian also, and we do have our share of emotional, physical, mental and spiritual problems that we sometimes share with each other. But we do give it up to God in prayer and right now we are doing better than before. We are together for almost 2 years now, last year was a roller coaster, i dont want to share our stories here as i deem it private. But if you're eager to start a new, you can PM me and we talk further bro. smile.gif This could be your time to turn fully to God 100% for Him to work through you, and maybe your ex will see it and it all will end happily ever after. wink.gif

God bless you and your ex bro. I pray you both will find peace with each other and start a new. biggrin.gif
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Thank you for that optimism. Really needed that one.

Thanks for keeping us in your prayer as well. Tried calling befriender the other night but the line kept engaged. Maybe someone needed them more.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 12 2019, 09:09 PM)
Thank you for that optimism. Really needed that one.

Thanks for keeping us in your prayer as well. Tried calling befriender the other night but the line kept engaged. Maybe someone needed them more.
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Hey Bro, how are you? Hope you are still coping well. Please do try to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Eat healthy, hydrate regularly and all that.

During hard times, having a schedule / routine might help. Give it a try smile.gif
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Hey Bro, how are you? Hope you are still coping well. Please do try to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Eat healthy, hydrate regularly and all that.

During hard times, having a schedule / routine might help. Give it a try smile.gif
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Trying to cope with everything. Had okay moments had break downs too.
Yeah I still drink a lot but I lost all appetite so I had 1 meal per day.
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Trying to cope with everything. Had okay moments had break downs too.
Yeah I still drink a lot but I lost all appetite so I had 1 meal per day.
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Good to hear you are doing you best to cope. Your 1 meal is it lunch? Maybe try to have a warm drink for breakfast too. Keeps your body going.
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Good to hear you are doing you best to cope. Your 1 meal is it lunch? Maybe try to have a warm drink for breakfast too. Keeps your body going.
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Either breakfast or lunch. But I have a lot of ice black coffee throughout the whole day.
Everyone said I look like I'm sick but I have to lie saying my ACL hurts after surgery cannot sleep well. Haih
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Either breakfast or lunch. But I have a lot of ice black coffee throughout the whole day.
Everyone said I look like I'm sick but I have to lie saying my ACL hurts after surgery cannot sleep well. Haih
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I see. Don't feel pressured Bro. Get better one step at a time at your pace. smile.gif

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So u banggala ur thread got till 21pages?
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Why bangga like that?
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Yeah. Thanks bro.
Appreciate your advise. Slowly but surely.

Gosh it's so hard at night when all memories, worry and past come flowing through your mind.
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Hey Bro, so far so good? How was sleep yesterday night? Anxiety attacks still happen?
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Last night I slept okay. Got a few hours of sleep but its enough. Just open some worship instrumental song to calm me down.

But today in office I just had a breakdown. Dont know why but today sucks. Feeling guilty and anxious badly. Maybe I'm in office alone.
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Last night I slept okay. Got a few hours of sleep but its enough. Just open some worship instrumental song to calm me down.

But today in office I just had a breakdown. Dont know why but today sucks. Feeling guilty and anxious badly. Maybe I'm in office alone.
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I know it's rather personal, but mind if I ask how did the breakdown happened? How was it like and what thoughts and emotions went thru your head? And it's completely ok if you don't feel comfortable talking about this here smile.gif
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 13 2019, 12:43 PM)
I know it's rather personal, but mind if I ask how did the breakdown happened? How was it like and what thoughts and emotions went thru your head? And it's completely ok if you don't feel comfortable talking about this here smile.gif
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I think I still cannot fully control my mind yet. Like someone pointed earlier, mind is everything.
A lot of times I still think of the happy times we had with each other. Though we fight, I hardly remember the content we fight about. So a lot in my memories are good times. Our inside jokes and conversation and all. And to think that now these are all gone because I am the one who ruin it. Yeah I know this is getting old but I am still stuck with the self blame hole. It's dark and cold there when I am alone.

Sometimes I think, most of the time before this relationship I can easily cope with being alone. I work alone, I eat alone, I go home alone. But now it just felt scary to be alone most of the time. Like emptiness inside. Maybe last time no one feel this emptiness so I dont feel it. But now since she's there and now she's gone, the emptiness is killing me. I can really feel the pressure at my chest area. Like its tight and sometimes hard to breath. But really, who to blame but only myself.
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Some ppl's mind are very objective like robots, and their thinking & feelings can change with just a snap once they decide it. However for some people (like me), the mind takes time to process feelings, emotions and decisions. Everybody handle things differently I guess.

At least you and her had good memories and sounds like you treated her well when still together. Yes you made a mistake.. And you already paid the price, right? So you shouldn't beat yourself up too much.

BTW, any luck reaching Befrienders?

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 12 2019, 12:27 PM)
Mind sharing what did you do to win her back? Did she open to communicating with you at the beginning?
Yeah getting condemn by people is really shitty. But admire your courage fighting head on. By fighting I think you mean to show them you really repented and not let negative comments bring you down right? You are showing them you love your wife and you'll do everything you can to prove it and not give up?
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well, like i said. first i have to change myself. i have to be more positive, make myself better, turn a new leaf.
just focus on my work and improving myself.
nope, beginning was really bad. so i just slowly take my time to win her over. i buy her favourite food and drinks, deliver them to her on my own. always send her good morning and good night text... although no response, but i still continue

yup, the condemn and negativity is real fucked up, but you gotta pull through it. i only have 1 thing in my mind, to win her back. so i dont give a shit about anything else. just focus on that 1 thing.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 13 2019, 02:11 PM)
Some ppl's mind are very objective like robots, and their thinking & feelings can change with just a snap once they decide it. However for some people (like me), the mind takes time to process feelings, emotions and decisions. Everybody handle things differently I guess.

At least you and her had good memories and sounds like you treated her well when still together. Yes you made a mistake.. And you already paid the price, right? So you shouldn't beat yourself up too much.

BTW, any luck reaching Befrienders?
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I'm not trying to reach them. Just that night when it's almost unbearable. Cause sometimes at 3am you really don't know who to talk to.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 13 2019, 04:41 PM)
well, like i said. first i have to change myself. i have to be more positive, make myself better, turn a new leaf.
just focus on my work and improving myself.
nope, beginning was really bad. so i just slowly take my time to win her over. i buy her favourite food and drinks, deliver them to her on my own. always send her good morning and good night text... although no response, but i still continue

yup, the condemn and negativity is real fucked up, but you gotta pull through it. i only have 1 thing in my mind, to win her back. so i dont give a shit about anything else. just focus on that 1 thing.
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Really really admire you and wish I can get the same result as you.

How nice if there's a formula to it and just pass it to me. I dont even know texting her now will be good or bad.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 13 2019, 04:41 PM)
well, like i said. first i have to change myself. i have to be more positive, make myself better, turn a new leaf.
just focus on my work and improving myself.
nope, beginning was really bad. so i just slowly take my time to win her over. i buy her favourite food and drinks, deliver them to her on my own. always send her good morning and good night text... although no response, but i still continue

yup, the condemn and negativity is real fucked up, but you gotta pull through it. i only have 1 thing in my mind, to win her back. so i dont give a shit about anything else. just focus on that 1 thing.
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Bro, I must that is very impressive single-minded focus you got there that won your wife back. Respect.

QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 13 2019, 06:17 PM)
How nice if there's a formula to it and just pass it to me. I dont even know texting her now will be good or bad.
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Just focus on getting better first Bro. smile.gif

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Really really admire you and wish I can get the same result as you.

How nice if there's a formula to it and just pass it to me. I dont even know texting her now will be good or bad.
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if i can do it, you can do it too. as bro below said, focus on yourself first. the first thing is you must get over yourself.
you know you made a mistake, so fine. you cant change the past, so just on the present and future.
make sure you improve yourself and never repeat it again.

QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 13 2019, 08:53 PM)
Bro, I must that is very impressive single-minded focus you got there that won your wife back. Respect.
Just focus on getting better first Bro. smile.gif
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yea, i was this close to 14th floor too. then it hit me, like fucking enlightenment. why should i 14th floor?
if i really did 14th floor, then that means i am what people say about me.
no way! fuck that! i am my own person.
it's not easy at first though, even the journey after that "enlightenment" never got easier.
but you just gotta keep persevering.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 13 2019, 09:25 PM)
if i can do it, you can do it too. as bro below said, focus on yourself first. the first thing is you must get over yourself.
you know you made a mistake, so fine. you cant change the past, so just on the present and future.
make sure you improve yourself and never repeat it again.
yea, i was this close to 14th floor too. then it hit me, like fucking enlightenment. why should i 14th floor?
if i really did 14th floor, then that means i am what people say about me.
no way! fuck that! i am my own person.
it's not easy at first though, even the journey after that "enlightenment" never got easier.
but you just gotta keep persevering.
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Well said on your advice to Bro Prelude. I very much agree.

Also didn't realise things were that bad until 14 floor was on your mind. Again, very much respect on your perseverance. Hats off to you Bro.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 13 2019, 09:25 PM)
if i can do it, you can do it too. as bro below said, focus on yourself first. the first thing is you must get over yourself.
you know you made a mistake, so fine. you cant change the past, so just on the present and future.
make sure you improve yourself and never repeat it again.
yea, i was this close to 14th floor too. then it hit me, like fucking enlightenment. why should i 14th floor?
if i really did 14th floor, then that means i am what people say about me.
no way! fuck that! i am my own person.
it's not easy at first though, even the journey after that "enlightenment" never got easier.
but you just gotta keep persevering.
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Care to explain how you get that enlightenment? Like does it just come to you? A switch just flicked inside your mind or what?

Thanks for the encouragement.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 13 2019, 09:30 PM)
Well said on your advice to Bro Prelude. I very much agree.

Also didn't realise things were that bad until 14 floor was on your mind. Again, very much respect on your perseverance. Hats off to you Bro.
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Seriously at night when no one talk to you and your thinking run wild, its very easy to think of 14th floor. Like the easy way out.
But yeah, become a better guy and get well first. I know I have to.
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Hey sorry I might have missed out. What was your reply again?
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Tough night Bro?
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Yeap I actually manage to fell asleep accidentally while reading on bed cause too tired.
But yeah woke up with my heart beating very fast and feeling very worried for nothing. Really hate that feeling. sad.gif
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Yeap I actually manage to fell asleep accidentally while reading on bed cause too tired.
But yeah woke up with my heart beating very fast and feeling very worried for nothing. Really hate that feeling.  sad.gif
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Well, you just gotta let it go my friend. What happened has happened and you paid the price already. All those worries, what-ifs and guilt.. Let it all go.. And start anew. Life have so much more out there waiting for you smile.gif
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Well, you just gotta let it go my friend. What happened has happened and you paid the price already. All those worries, what-ifs and guilt.. Let it all go.. And start anew. Life have so much more out there waiting for you smile.gif
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I am trying trust me. But its just everywhere every corner I go reminds me the relationship I had. It was a good one.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 13 2019, 09:30 PM)
Well said on your advice to Bro Prelude. I very much agree.

Also didn't realise things were that bad until 14 floor was on your mind. Again, very much respect on your perseverance. Hats off to you Bro.
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no la, it all comes down to our willpower lo. if i can do, then anyone can do it. i am still a normal human with average IQ and normal working limbs. hahahaha

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Care to explain how you get that enlightenment? Like does it just come to you? A switch just flicked inside your mind or what?

Thanks for the encouragement.
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yea, sort of. i was just drifting off on my endless sorrow. then suddenly i remembered about some bullshits that i used to have with my another friend. we used to get all philosophical and shits. then one thing hit me "it's all in our mind" "we choose what to believe" "if you think you can, then you can" "everyone has their own believes, nobody can change your believes, except yourself"

so you can do it too! you must start thinking that. with enough believe of yourself, you will see a change. and slowly, but surely, more and more positivity will come.
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no la, it all comes down to our willpower lo. if i can do, then anyone can do it. i am still a normal human with average IQ and normal working limbs. hahahaha
yea, sort of. i was just drifting off on my endless sorrow. then suddenly i remembered about some bullshits that i used to have with my another friend. we used to get all philosophical and shits. then one thing hit me "it's all in our mind" "we choose what to believe" "if you think you can, then you can" "everyone has their own believes, nobody can change your believes, except yourself"

so you can do it too! you must start thinking that. with enough believe of yourself, you will see a change. and slowly, but surely, more and more positivity will come.
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How long did it take you to get out from the sadness and the pain? Like everyday I have moments where I break down and all. I wanna call her to hear her voice but I can't. Everything is so unbearable. Watching the sky turn dark is so scary
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How long did it take you to get out from the sadness and the pain? Like everyday I have moments where I break down and all. I wanna call her to hear her voice but I can't. Everything is so unbearable. Watching the sky turn dark is so scary
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hmmm... probably 2-3 months, i guess?

that's why you need to force yourself to be positive. at first it's gonna be hard, i never said it's easy... nothing is easy
but it's the perseverance and your feelings for her that will get you through
how much do you love her? if you love her that much, then you gotta love yourself that much too.
then you gotta fight it. fight it with everything that you have.
no matter what happened, you must think of the day that you guys will be together again.
let the goal be the fuel that burn within you.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 15 2019, 02:12 PM)
hmmm... probably 2-3 months, i guess?

that's why you need to force yourself to be positive. at first it's gonna be hard, i never said it's easy... nothing is easy
but it's the perseverance and your feelings for her that will get you through
how much do you love her? if you love her that much, then you gotta love yourself that much too.
then you gotta fight it. fight it with everything that you have.
no matter what happened, you must think of the day that you guys will be together again.
let the goal be the fuel that burn within you.
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2-3 months is actually not too long.

Bro, you are my inspiration really. Hope I can achieve the same thing as you.
Regardless of what others say, I wanna fight for her cause I wanna show her I love her this much. People can tell me learn the lesson and move on. Treat the next girl better but I know this is the girl I want.

Thanks bro. If you can think of any tips or encouragement please post here and share with me.
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Hey ts how are you? Doing good?
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Thanks for asking bro.

I still breakdown every now and then but I know I need to get back on my feet soon.
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Thanks for asking bro.

I still breakdown every now and then but I know I need to get back on my feet soon.
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Seems like you are doing better now smile.gif all the best Bro.
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Just to update what happened today.

Today I woke up feeling very heavy hearted. It's Friday and yet I have nothing planned for tonight. I don't wanna go back home so early because it intensify the feeling of emptiness and I dont want my mom to ask me anything. After finishing work at 5, I went to my friend's cafe to talk but they close at 6. I had nowhere do to go I drove aimlessly for 1.5 hour before deciding to go Starbucks again. Actually quite reluctant to go Starbucks on a Friday night cause scare of meeting familiar faces.

I reached and I stayed in the car for half hour just to pass time. Then I saw her car parked behind me. She came down and I went down and called her. She was alone and I asked if we can have a chat together. She was willing to sit together.

We had a talk for 3 hours until 1130. We had a nice conversation together. At first we talk about our relationship. The problems we faced in the relationship and our differences. We are very very different and it shows in the relationship. I can feel that she is still angry and upset about the whole incident. Her anger and toxic thoughts reflects in what she said. We also talked about how we cope with this period and what are we doing too. She shared what her niece and nephew are up to.

We talked about the future. I told her we might not know why is this happening to us but lets take a step back and view this from God's perspective. God wants us to learn from this and build ourselves back to Him. Whatever lesson we learn from our relationship, we should apply to the next one be it with other partner or back together. Don't let this relationship go to waste. I also told her when I look back our relationship, I can remember more happy moments than bad ones. She commented she felt that way too but then she dont understand why many happy moments yet I still did such mistake. I explained to how lust and love works for guys. I struggle in lust and this is purely just to satisfy my needs although its wrong. It's like how many guys rely and got addicted to porn. Of course, she did not forgive me.

I told her one day I believe she will look at me and think that I have improved to be a better person and partner. I told her I believe one day we will get back together again. One day all this will make sense. We never know what would happen but I believe one day, we will be together again. Dont ask me where I get such optimism I just have to let it out. Good thing she never say dont wait for her bla bla bla those kind of sentence. She just say yeah we never know what will happen in the future. Then I ask why did you unfollow me from instagram. She smiled and asked me how I know. She was afraid I might upload my new relationship up and I smiled at her. I said one day maybe next year hope there's a Thai movie (we got together after watching a Thai movie and it has been an inside joke). She said yeah just ke xi (pity). That moment, as hard as I tried, I teared.

Anyway, manage to calm down before everyone look at me and we made some small chats before going home. Just feel glad and thankful after everything we can still sit together and talk like that. I really need to toughen up and improve myself for this girl.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 16 2019, 12:57 AM)
Seems like you are doing better now smile.gif all the best Bro.
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Thanks bro. You have been a good virtual friend and listener ever since this happened to me.
Please do visit this thread time to time and chit chat.
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Thanks bro. You have been a good virtual friend and listener ever since this happened to me.
Please do visit this thread time to time and chit chat.
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No problem Bro, I still do keep an eye here for updates haha. Sounds like you have a good talk with her, hopefully she'll slowly understand. I'll be rooting for you Bro smile.gif
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No problem Bro, I still do keep an eye here for updates haha. Sounds like you have a good talk with her, hopefully she'll slowly understand. I'll be rooting for you Bro smile.gif
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Yeah it was really a good chat. Just thankful she still willing to talk to me. Sometimes you really dont appreciate moments like this until you are in this stage.

Thanks bro!
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just shove your cock in her

even the most complex problem can be solved with simplest solution

no need to rant all day long

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Wait so did you guys break up or not
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be patience and give some hope to each other. after following this chat for quite some time,i believe you can win her back. just be yourself and do what u need to do for now and have some faith. time will prove that you are worthwhile to her
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 16 2019, 12:12 AM)
2-3 months is actually not too long.

Bro, you are my inspiration really. Hope I can achieve the same thing as you.
Regardless of what others say, I wanna fight for her cause I wanna show her I love her this much. People can tell me learn the lesson and move on. Treat the next girl better but I know this is the girl I want.

Thanks bro. If you can think of any tips or encouragement please post here and share with me.
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well, time is a matter of perspective. when you are down in the gutter and keep getting kicked on, even 1 minute can feel like eternity.

but dont say till like that. we are all humans. like i say, what i can do, you can do it too!

just keep fighting the good fight! only you yourself know what is the good fight. nobody else can help you fight it.

most importantly is to keep yourself positive and persevere through it all.

never give up, dont ever give up.
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QUOTE(incubus69 @ Nov 16 2019, 06:48 AM)
be patience and give some hope to each other. after following this chat for  quite some time,i believe you can win her back. just be yourself and do what u need to do for now and have some faith. time will prove that you are worthwhile to her
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Thanks bro. Really happy to hear this. Need this optimism in my life right now. Thank you.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 16 2019, 04:22 PM)
well, time is a matter of perspective. when you are down in the gutter and keep getting kicked on, even 1 minute can feel like eternity.

but dont say till like that. we are all humans. like i say, what i can do, you can do it too!

just keep fighting the good fight! only you yourself know what is the good fight. nobody else can help you fight it.

most importantly is to keep yourself positive and persevere through it all.

never give up, dont ever give up.
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Thanks thanks thanks. Yes I'll fight for her. I must get out from this hole.

Last night conversation with this girl makes me feel I really wanna fight for her. I told myself she can still talk to me nicely. Things could be worse. I must let this fuel my fight and press on for her.
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Today was hard. Yesterday night she called me to continue on our previous conversation. She pointed out the things I did in the relationship that hurt her. I felt like she remembered all the fights that we had in the relationship until I asked how come she remembered so cleary the bad ones instead of the good ones. She told me she remembered both but bad ones hurt cause she's on the receiving end. I told her when we fight, we both had our differences which we need to defend. That's why we fight but every night I soften down, went to hug her, apologize and told her our differences does not matter much. It's just during the heat of the moment I may not be able to do it. That's just me as I need time to process my emotions as well.

But yeah, she told me this is the last time she wanted to talk about the our relationship with me. She wants to move on and doesnt wanna harbour toxic and angry thoughts as she doesnt feel well too. She said for the time being, maybe the space and distance is good for us as when we meet and talk this period, our conversation will only lead us towards the past. I told her okay. I will wait for her to be ready and I will continue to pray for her.

This morning I called her because I notice her car at home when I drove past. She was supposed to be in church at the time so I called her to just see if she was sick or what. Turned out she was having a bad day. She told me she doesnt felt doing anything, she is not sick or anything. I asked her if she's doing any activities later. She replied but can tell she has that negative tone in her. After we said goodbye, she sent me an angry message. It really hurts me but i think she was just venting out and i just have to live with it.

Yeah today was hard to get through but I just have to hang on.
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If you don't mind me asking, is she in general a sensitive person? Does she always remember all the not so good stuff? If everytime you talk to her and all she can remember are the bad stuff.. Then it's kinda difficult for you.
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If you don't mind me asking, is she in general a sensitive person? Does she always remember all the not so good stuff? If everytime you talk to her and all she can remember are the bad stuff.. Then it's kinda difficult for you.
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She's very very sensitive. Like a lot of times I thought I'm doing well yet she can still feel hurt from my actions.

She has low self esteem as well. I guess all stems from her losing her dad in a young age and unhappy memories growing up.
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She's very very sensitive. Like a lot of times I thought I'm doing well yet she can still feel hurt from my actions.

She has low self esteem as well. I guess all stems from her losing her dad in a young age and unhappy memories growing up.
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I see.. Seems to me her other half would need to be very sensitive to her feelings. Not an easy feat. And I suppose to win her back you need to be overwhelmingly positive and very persistent similar to Twenty-fifth Baam.

You're going to have to be able to handle her constant anger and rejection along the way to your goal.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 17 2019, 04:18 PM)
Today was hard. Yesterday night she called me to continue on our previous conversation. She pointed out the things I did in the relationship that hurt her. I felt like she remembered all the fights that we had in the relationship until I asked how come she remembered so cleary the bad ones instead of the good ones. She told me she remembered both but bad ones hurt cause she's on the receiving end. I told her when we fight, we both had our differences which we need to defend. That's why we fight but every night I soften down, went to hug her, apologize and told her our differences does not matter much. It's just during the heat of the moment I may not be able to do it. That's just me as I need time to process my emotions as well.

But yeah, she told me this is the last time she wanted to talk about the our relationship with me. She wants to move on and doesnt wanna harbour toxic and angry thoughts as she doesnt feel well too. She said for the time being, maybe the space and distance is good for us as when we meet and talk this period, our conversation will only lead us towards the past. I told her okay. I will wait for her to be ready and I will continue to pray for her.

This morning I called her because I notice her car at home when I drove past. She was supposed to be in church at the time so I called her to just see if she was sick or what. Turned out she was having a bad day. She told me she doesnt felt doing anything, she is not sick or anything. I asked her if she's doing any activities later. She replied but can tell she has that negative tone in her. After we said goodbye, she sent me an angry message. It really hurts me but i think she was just venting out and i just have to live with it.

Yeah today was hard to get through but I just have to hang on.
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Ok ma. At least still gor channel. Better than complete silent and cut off. Positive sign.
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I see.. Seems to me her other half would need to be very sensitive to her feelings. Not an easy feat. And I suppose to win her back you need to be overwhelmingly positive and very persistent similar to Twenty-fifth Baam.

You're going to have to be able to handle her constant anger and rejection along the way to your goal.
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Bro, can you define what you mean by overly positive? Does it mean to be able to move forward from this break up and be positive we will get back? Like how am I gonna show her the positiveness?
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Ok ma. At least still gor channel. Better than complete silent and cut off. Positive sign.
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Yeah. It was hard but it could be worse.
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Yesterday was tough so I shut myself off and just spend time on myself grieving and letting all my emotions out. It was a long day until at night I had bad headache but I did get enough sleep.

At night she sent me another text saying "This is why distance is needed. And as time passes things will fall into place, eventually."

I guess she was upset by herself sending angry message. Later she replied "What I mean was we need distance to move on. We need spaces to focus back ourselves. That's all I'm trying to say. I dont want to hurt myself with anger or any other negative emotions."

Her last reply: May God shape you to be the person He made you to be.

I mean this is such a bitter sweet message. Like she thinks about me but at the same time sound like a goodbye.

I miss her so so much.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 18 2019, 02:51 PM)
Bro, can you define what you mean by overly positive? Does it mean to be able to move forward from this break up and be positive we will get back? Like how am I gonna show her the positiveness?
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Well in my message by positive I meant like.. Not appearing sad or worried in front of her I guess. Although being positive in front of her may help win her back, but it's not healthy for you in the long run because it might become the case of you wearing a 'mask' in front of her. Unless it's a shift of mindset like what Twenty-Fifth Baam shared with us before.

It's good for you to grieve and let your emotions out. Though I wonder does she do the same to let her emotions out? I tend to think bottled feelings & emotions will cause ppl to accidentally lash out at others, like what just happened to you.
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Well in my message by positive I meant like.. Not appearing sad or worried in front of her I guess. Although being positive in front of her may help win her back, but it's not healthy for you in the long run because it might become the case of you wearing a 'mask' in front of her. Unless it's a shift of mindset like what Twenty-Fifth Baam shared with us before.

It's good for you to grieve and let your emotions out. Though I wonder does she do the same to let her emotions out? I tend to think bottled feelings & emotions will cause ppl to accidentally lash out at others, like what just happened to you.
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Actually she did. One of her church mentor reached out to me and told me she is praying for me. Ask me to be well.

I apologize to her, asked her why pray for me since I hurt her friend. I was really just breaking down la when she reached out to me. She told me she knows I'm suffering but my ex is in also not having it easy. Maybe she thought I think it was easy for her. She told me she called her and cried too.

So yeah, dont think she is bottling it in.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 18 2019, 04:11 PM)
Actually she did. One of her church mentor reached out to me and told me she is praying for me. Ask me to be well.

I apologize to her, asked her why pray for me since I hurt her friend. I was really just breaking down la when she reached out to me. She told me she knows I'm suffering but my ex is in also not having it easy. Maybe she thought I think it was easy for her. She told me she called her and cried too.

So yeah, dont think she is bottling it in.
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I see.. That's good to know. Just that seems like she still have somethings she couldn't get over with, hence her angry message to you yesterday. Just wondering.

So.. Any plans now moving forward?
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 18 2019, 04:21 PM)
I see.. That's good to know. Just that seems like she still have somethings she couldn't get over with, hence her angry message to you yesterday. Just wondering.

So.. Any plans now moving forward?
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I dont know should I keep in touch with her like once a week or go no contact for a month.

If I call her once a week, good thing is we keep communication open but at the same time giving her the space. Maybe call her just to catch up and know what each other has been doing without talking about the past.

Go no contact for one month is like really giving her the space and distance she need but just afraid without communication, what would happen?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 16 2019, 10:29 PM)
Thanks thanks thanks. Yes I'll fight for her. I must get out from this hole.

Last night conversation with this girl makes me feel I really wanna fight for her. I told myself she can still talk to me nicely. Things could be worse. I must let this fuel my fight and press on for her.
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Yup, that's the way.

Just send her good morning and good night even if she doesn't reply.

Don't think too much about it. Just do it.

Just send too many messaged either, just a few will do. If she replies, great, if she doesn't, so be it.

Don't pestered her too much till she gets even angrier. Just slowly, it takes a huge fucking time.

You can't make her forgive you in a short time.

Women remember EVERYTHING! I know how you feel, so just take your time. DO NOT RUSH!

take it slow, get better yourself. then things will change for the better.
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QUOTE(Twenty-Fifth Baam @ Nov 18 2019, 05:28 PM)
Yup, that's the way.

Just send her good morning and good night even if she doesn't reply.

Don't think too much about it. Just do it.

Just send too many messaged either, just a few will do. If she replies, great, if she doesn't, so be it.

Don't pestered her too much till she gets even angrier. Just slowly, it takes a huge fucking time.

You can't make her forgive you in a short time.

Women remember EVERYTHING! I know how you feel, so just take your time. DO NOT RUSH!

take it slow, get better yourself. then things will change for the better.
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I dont know if directly wish her morning night all these will make her annoying or not. Or maybe I need to give her sometime before I start to wish her this and that.

Haih dont know la so many dilemma

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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 18 2019, 11:30 PM)
I dont know if directly wish her morning night all these will make her annoying or not. Or maybe I need to give her sometime before I start to wish her this and that.

Haih dont know la so many dilemma
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I would suggest give her some time first. Maybe 1 month? Or 2 weeks? Then start slow, maybe 1 message a week? Then after a period of time become 1 message every few days.

Just a suggestion.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 19 2019, 09:50 AM)
I would suggest give her some time first. Maybe 1 month? Or 2 weeks? Then start slow, maybe 1 message a week? Then after a period of time become 1 message every few days.

Just a suggestion.
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Yeah this is what I thought so too.

Give her two weeks break and then start slow. Haih, thanks for hearing me out bro. Can only talk here.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 19 2019, 03:04 PM)
Yeah this is what I thought so too.

Give her two weeks break and then start slow. Haih, thanks for hearing me out bro. Can only talk here.
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No problem Bro. So I am guessing both you and her mutual friends are unaware of the situation? I was thinking maybe they can sorta help inform you on how she is and stuff.

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No problem Bro. So I am guessing both you and her mutual friends are unaware of the situation? I was thinking maybe they can sorta help inform you on how she is and stuff.
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Our mutual friend knows. My friend dunno. Most of our mutual friends are from church so they know since I stop going.

Today reminded me about our happy moments together. Feels painful to blow it all off because of one mistake.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 19 2019, 05:21 PM)
Our mutual friend knows. My friend dunno. Most of our mutual friends are from church so they know since I stop going.

Today reminded me about our happy moments together. Feels painful to blow it all off because of one mistake.
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How did your mutual friends treat this news? I hope they aren't too judgemental. Also have you thought of letting your own friends know? I suppose sooner or later they might casually ask about you and her?
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How did your mutual friends treat this news? I hope they aren't too judgemental. Also have you thought of letting your own friends know? I suppose sooner or later they might casually ask about you and her?
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I only talked to one cause he's like the leader of our cell group. So he's helping me and telling me I should not be blame entirely.

My own friend I havent been seeing anyone so I also dont know how to tell. The thing with my group of closest friend are a bunch of girls. I know they will be supportive and all but my ex is sensitive when I hang out with girls so I might stay away from them. My guys friend are married with kids so I dont really wanna bother them.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Nov 19 2019, 10:20 PM)
I only talked to one cause he's like the leader of our cell group. So he's helping me and telling me I should not be blame entirely.

My own friend I havent been seeing anyone so I also dont know how to tell. The thing with my group of closest friend are a bunch of girls. I know they will be supportive and all but my ex is sensitive when I hang out with girls so I might stay away from them. My guys friend are married with kids so I dont really wanna bother them.
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I see. OK. Maybe you can consider finding your guy friends to yumcha / limteh a bit once in awhile just to socialise a bit, you know, just hang out. Since you gotta go 2 weeks without contacting her.
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well, I am.
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QUOTE(V429 @ Nov 19 2019, 10:33 PM)
I see. OK. Maybe you can consider finding your guy friends to yumcha / limteh a bit once in awhile just to socialise a bit, you know, just hang out. Since you gotta go 2 weeks without contacting her.
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I dont know. Like lost motivation to find anyone now. Both of them have kids so its a bit hard as well.

Ah we shall see. Everyday is difficult to get through but time always flows so eventually the day will pass. Just counting down the days. Tried going for a walk today at the park. Maybe will go hiking also but dont know if leg can tahan or not.
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still not done?
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Nov 29 2019, 12:21 AM)
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Hey there.

Thanks for checking up the thread.

I would say after so many replies from the people here, I need to get better. I need to get better in order to fight for this relationship. She's not gonna comeback to me if I am still feel with sorrow and guilt right? Just gotta be better and show her the improvement and repentance I mean I would do. Of course, there are days of ups and down, positive and negative. Some days I keep telling myself to fight on all this negative emotions but some days I feel like I deserve, I am a failure and I dont deserve her.

But tomorrow I will try to reach out to her after 2 weeks of no contact. Hopefully she will take it well.
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Hey. Hows life going for you?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 1 2019, 01:05 AM)
Hey there.

Thanks for checking up the thread.

I would say after so many replies from the people here, I need to get better. I need to get better in order to fight for this relationship. She's not gonna comeback to me if I am still feel with sorrow and guilt right? Just gotta be better and show her the improvement and repentance I mean I would do. Of course, there are days of ups and down, positive and negative. Some days I keep telling myself to fight on all this negative emotions but some days I feel like I deserve, I am a failure and I dont deserve her.

But tomorrow I will try to reach out to her after 2 weeks of no contact. Hopefully she will take it well.
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maybe better u look for a new gf?

some1 more suited for u

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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Dec 1 2019, 04:04 PM)
maybe better u look for a new gf?

some1 more suited for u
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Doesnt work for me bro. You cant just replace someone just like that.

I managed to call her and talk to her briefly today. Although there's still sadness and can hear that she is still in pain, I just wanna take the positives out from this which is she is still willing to talk to me.
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whenever you meet someone, be prepared for the possibility that they may leave one day, so you learn to expect less, and not be left so disappointed .

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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 2 2019, 03:02 AM)
whenever you meet someone, be prepared for the possibility that they may leave one day, so you learn to expect less, and not be left  so disappointed .
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Not everyone leave right? Or if you mean they leave as in pass away...

But what is hard to swallow is I was the cause that she left.
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Damn.. I am hvg trouble to sleep for 2 weeks now.. Might hv health problem soon...
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 2 2019, 03:25 AM)
Not everyone leave right? Or if you mean they leave as in pass away...

But what is hard to swallow is I was the cause that she left.
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life is like driving a car in a way, not everyone including you give way to others all the time, and that could fuk up somebody's day. But hey man, can't always keep blaming yourself as the fall guy for fukkking up, sometimes u just gotta drive straight, and dont look back.


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How are you bro? Feeling better now?
Just checking out on ya..
While for me, tomorrow i have speaking test, made me anxiety so i come surf k a bit.
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QUOTE(bee993 @ Dec 2 2019, 06:17 AM)
Damn.. I am hvg trouble to sleep for 2 weeks now.. Might hv health problem soon...
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How's your sleeping pattern? Cannot sleep all or able to sleep but keep waking up?

Stress bro?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 2 2019, 10:01 AM)
life is like driving a car in a way, not everyone including you give way to others all the time, and that could fuk up  somebody's day. But hey man, can't always keep blaming yourself as the fall guy for fukkking up, sometimes u just gotta drive straight, and dont look back.
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Yeah trying to bro. Working hard to stand back up to show her this mistake doesnt define who I am and hopefully she sees it and give me the chance to make things right.
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QUOTE(Snoopycute98 @ Dec 2 2019, 07:34 PM)
How are you bro? Feeling better now?
Just checking out on ya..
While for me, tomorrow i have speaking test, made me anxiety so i come surf k a bit.
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Hey bro. Ups and downs but getting better. The worst part pass dy now I am just trying to build myself back and take changes in life. Hopefully the steps that I take will show her my repentance and that this mistake does not define who I am. Also called her last night and we talked for a while. Can sense that she is still struggling herself to cope with the damages I caused. I just plan to take things slow and keep in touch with her once a week maybe to show her I care and hopefully she does not repel away from me.

Hows your speaking test? As in presentation?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 3 2019, 12:31 AM)
Yeah trying to bro. Working hard to stand back up to show her this mistake doesnt define who I am and hopefully she sees it and give me the chance to make things right.
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hope often leads to disappointment, heh
expect less, better to keep you sane.
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 3 2019, 12:48 AM)
hope often leads to disappointment, heh
expect less, better to keep you sane.
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But without hope what keeps me going?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 3 2019, 01:30 AM)
But without hope what keeps me going?
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yourself and just you, working towards becoming a better you. How to do that ? By building new experiences, thats where u learn thru trial and error, to become better.

then, the next time your moment comes, even if with someone u feel special for, you will be more prepared than now, and not be making mistakes like last time.




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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 2 2019, 09:11 PM)
How's your sleeping pattern? Cannot sleep all or able to sleep but keep waking up?

Stress bro?
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Try to sleep but juz can't.. Unless make myself very tired.. Like in the morning juz can sleep or need to put on earphone open some YouTube talk, speech of story of China history or similar juz can sleep... Probably.. Stress play a big part..
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QUOTE(bee993 @ Dec 3 2019, 02:31 AM)
Try to sleep but juz can't.. Unless make myself very tired.. Like in the morning juz can sleep or need to put on earphone open some YouTube talk, speech of story of China history or similar juz can sleep... Probably.. Stress play a big part..
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You listen to story of China cause its boring and make you sleep or you are really interested in it? Why stress bro? Working or studying?
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QUOTE(Einjahr @ Dec 3 2019, 01:34 AM)
yourself and just you, working towards becoming a better you. How to do that ? By building new experiences, thats where u learn thru trial and error, to become better.

then, the next time your moment comes, even if with someone u feel special for, you will be more prepared than now, and not be making mistakes like last time.
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Yeap thanks bro. That is also what I try doing and telling myself. But I just cant ignore the fact my mistake hurt someone badly.

And I know its cliche but hope my next moment is still with the same person.
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 3 2019, 03:28 AM)
You listen to story of China cause its boring and make you sleep or you are really interested in it? Why stress bro? Working or studying?
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Interested, but it's funny I can sleep easily when I am. Concentrate to listen to it... Out of job.
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My only advice is man up and face it like a man.

Being guiltily won't make things better.

Move on and forget about it.

Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

To succeed in this world, necessary evil is virtue. Too pusseh will make us being eaten alive and die alone. Is that what you want?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 3 2019, 12:39 AM)
Hey bro. Ups and downs but getting better. The worst part pass dy now I am just trying to build myself back and take changes in life. Hopefully the steps that I take will show her my repentance and that this mistake does not define who I am. Also called her last night and we talked for a while. Can sense that she is still struggling herself to cope with the damages I caused. I just plan to take things slow and keep in touch with her once a week maybe to show her I care and hopefully she does not repel away from me.

Hows your speaking test? As in presentation?
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Yeah.. hopefully she will come back to u, then all is well.

Japanese speaking test, ask questions
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QUOTE(bee993 @ Dec 3 2019, 03:37 AM)
Interested, but it's funny I can sleep easily when I am. Concentrate to listen to it... Out of job.
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Okay bro. Hope you can find your sleep back. I know the feeling of wanting to sleep but just fill with so much thoughts inside you keeping you from sleeping.

In fact, I slept early just now at 10 cause was really tired but woke up now cause I dream we patch back dy in my dream. sad.gif
Somehow we are together in KL and having a lunch with her friend and husband. The friend mom bought her a bag earlier. When she showed me the bag, I asked her you will use this meh implying that the design is not what she like. She told me the strap already putus. Funny is I only saw her friend and the husband once before.


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QUOTE(Snoopycute98 @ Dec 3 2019, 06:23 AM)
Yeah.. hopefully she will come back to u, then all is well.

Japanese speaking test, ask questions
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Thanks bro.

How did you speaking test go? All well?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 4 2019, 02:49 AM)
Thanks bro.

How did you speaking test go? All well?
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Nervous, but ok ba, lecturer says not bad. biggrin.gif

Now doing project, a bit stress.

How u feeling today?
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QUOTE(prelude23 @ Dec 4 2019, 02:48 AM)
Okay bro. Hope you can find your sleep back. I know the feeling of wanting to sleep but just fill with so much thoughts inside you keeping you from sleeping.

In fact, I slept early just now at 10 cause was really tired but woke up now cause I dream we patch back dy in my dream.  sad.gif
Somehow we are together in KL and having a lunch with her friend and husband. The friend mom bought her a bag earlier. When she showed me the bag, I asked her you will use this meh implying that the design is not what she like. She told me the strap already putus. Funny is I only saw her friend and the husband once before.
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That is quite a dream. Do you still wake up in the middle of night regularly due to anxiety?

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