Updated 11/11/2020



Official PS5 FAQ
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/11/09/ps5...e-ultimate-faq/

Price = MYR 1,869 FOR PS5 DIGITAL EDITION, AND MYR 2,299 FOR PS5 WITH ULTRA HD BLU-RAY DISC DRIVE

M'sia launch date : 11 Dec 2020

CPU: x86-64-AMD Ryzen™ “Zen 2”, 8 Cores / 16 Threads, Variable frequency, up to 3.5 GHz

GPU: AMD Radeon™ RDNA 2-based graphics engine, Ray Tracing Acceleration, Variable frequency, up to 2.23 GHz (10.3 TFLOPS)

System Memory: GDDR6 16GB, 448GB/s Bandwidth

SSD: 825GB, 5.5GB/s Read Bandwidth (Raw)

Optical Drive: Ultra HD Blu-ray (66G/100G) ~10xCAVBD-ROM (25G/50G) ~8xCAVBD-R/RE (25G/50G) ~8xCAVDVD ~3.2xCLV

PS5 Game Disc: Ultra HD Blu-ray, up to 100GB/disc

Video Out: HDMI™ OUT port, Support of 4K 120Hz TVs, 8K TVs, VRR (specified by HDMI ver.2.1)

Audio: “Tempest” 3D AudioTech

Dimensions: PS5: Approx. 390mm x 104mm x 260mm (width x height x depth)(excludes largest projection, excludes Base)
PS5 Digital Edition: Approx. 390mm x 92mm x 260mm (width x height x depth)(excludes largest projection, excludes Base)

Weight: PS5: 4.5kg, PS5 Digital Edition: 3.9kg

Power: PS5: 350W, PS5 Digital Edition: 340W

Input/Output: USB Type-A port (Hi-Speed USB)USB Type-A port (Super-Speed USB 10Gbps) x2, USB Type-C® port (Super-Speed USB 10Gbps)

Networking: Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T)IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax, Bluetooth® 5.1


Cili sos:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/16/pla...ray-disc-drive/

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Nov 11 2020, 11:58 PM

well, very typical of Sony

we don't see any innovation in the next gen console

everything is just faster & prettier & bigger

But I applaud them on the usage of the high speed SSD, instead of just putting in a normal SSD. It seems the high speed SSD is a lot more faster than those currently available in PC market, Spiderman loading time decrease from 15s to less than 1s is a great feat. I hope no more long waiting/loading time in the new PS5 games to come.
But using SSD also gonna be a obstacle as well, it's still relatively expensive now(yes, it's getting cheaper) in dollar per gig, so I expect Sony won't be throwing in a 1Tb high speed SSD, probably a hybrid system, a smaller SSD for game loading, and a backup 1Tb or more normal HDD for game storage, similar to PC's practice.

On the prettier part, faster GPU with ray tracing, more realistic games, more eye candies, nothing much to look forward to as gamers beside prettier games, but for the dev it's a big deal, it seems ray tracing is easier to do and less GPU intensive compared to the traditional rasterization.

and 8K? 8K display is rare, and uncommon, not to mention finding a 8K content to go with it, the progression from 4k to 8k is extremely slow. I doubt it gonna kick off during PS5's time.

There a few other things which I’m hoping for.
1. Backwards compatibility with PS4 accessories. Including the dual shock 4. I’ve several controllers/joysticks, for them to be obsolete is quite a waste of money.

2. Support for external HDD. I hope they won’t remove this feature as existing PS4 has it. This is important as I doubt there will be a cheap 2TB High speed ssd model.

3. Same PS+ subscription. It’ll be pretty shitty if PS5 requires a higher end subscription model.

4. noise level. My 2 ps4, OG and the pro is nearly as loud as my vacuum cleaner. I hope this can be as quiet as the Xbox one S/X.

at least my 1st gen psvr is supported

1. Doubt so, all this while DS aren't backward compatible at all, except the wand, so I think it will be the same with DS5, don't forget it's Sony, they'll be capitalizing on the selling the new accessories like DS5 kau-kau
But I'm hoping for longer batt life, DS4 has the poorest batt life in all 3 current gen consoles
I hop they'll remove some of the "useless" feature of DS4, like the mini speaker and the touch pad (hardly any games utilized them anymore), but since they are going for backward compatible, guess they'll be staying

2. External HDD support should be still there, like you said, no way they gonna throw in a big capacity high speed SSD

3. Should still the same, 2 PS4 games & 2 PS5 games as monthly IGC perhaps?

4. New Pro is quieter, it's more of their own manufacturing issue, my Pro's CPU was found without full thermal paste (inferior paste also) coverage, I reapplied and it's not as loud as before.

For number 1, well... I can only hope. It’s certainly something they can implement but probably chose not to due to greed.
DS4 is fully compatible with PS3 so I don’t see why it can’t be compatible with ps5 to play certain games.
Other than the wand, the pulse headset is supported as well if I’m not mistaken.

For number 4, im hoping for Xbox level of noise though. Which is virtually silent.

i forecast the launching price for PS5 will be around ~RM2,500

My take and opinion on the announced specs, which btw are always subject to change.


CPU - AMD Zen 2 based architecture (8 cores confirmed)

Okay I'm glad it's finally official that they aren't gimping on the CPU this time and going for something relevant. However I doubt the CPU in the PS5 is going to be overly quick either, it will still be the bottleneck but hopefully sufficient enough to give us 1080p60fps games as a baseline, at least.

Clock speeds, I feel that 3.0ghz as the base clock and up to 3.6ghz as boost clock, but in a console environment they might even forego the boost to keep things as simple as possible too.

As for core count, 8 cores was always the obvious choice in order to keep parity with the PS4 for 100% backwards compatibility. But the interesting question here is if the CPU will get double threads up to 16 threads or are they strictly doing 8 cores and 8 threads only. Going to 16 threads would require some fairly beefy VRM design which also means the PSU would need to be decent and not just "barely passable" like the PS4 and PS4 Pro uses. It also means the cooling capability needs to be robust as well, the Xbox One X has done well in this regard so I'm sure Cerny and co. will have their work cut out for them in this department.


GPU - Navi based GPU

Quite an open secret, it was always going to be Navi and AMD has never denied that Navi is designed with consoles as the forefront on the architecture. Previously Cerny said that a console requires at least 8 TFLOPs to achieve native 4k. While on paper and with maths that is true, reality is that things aren't as rosy as it sounds. Google's Stadia is targeting 11 TFLOPs and I believe that Sony is also targeting a similar level of output on the GPU side. However TFLOPS don't really mean much anymore these days, so chasing the big number isn't always the most effective solution (Nvidia's RTX has less TFLOPs comparatively speaking with their Pascal predecessor as an example).

I expect the GPU to roughly match Vega 64 in performance levels but at a MUCH, MUCH lower TDP. I don't think we'll see too much 60fps games either next gen and that 4k30 will still be the target. I do however hope that a separate mode to allow players to choose a lower resolution for 60fps is available or better yet, pushing Freesync support as a major feature. Though unfortunately the latter is tied to displays adopting it or not, and even though Samsung and LG (this year) supports Freesync - the range it does it is at a minimum of 48hz which would mean it's kinda pointless for the vast majority of games. Why Sony aren't adopting Freesync on their TVs is beyond me though.

Also wonder about the amount of RAM the system will get, I'm thinking 12GB being the logical and cost effective step since they'll be using GDDR6. But surprise me with 16GB please, just like the PS4 did with 8GB.

Raytracing support has also been announced, but I'm skeptical if it'll even be widespread used. I doubt dedicated ray tracing cores will be built into Navi too, at least not at the PS5's price point (~$500). So I'm only expecting software based ray tracing which means rudimentary use of it.

A note about "8k support". Obviously, games aren't going to run at 8k. I am fairly certain that 8k support means the GPU has the right decoders to decode video files at 8k resolution so they don't stutter like a bitch when played back. Would also mean that streaming apps can push for 8k resolutions without relying on the CPU for software decoding.


Dedicated DSP - a focus on 3D audio

I don't like the term 3D audio, the correct term is binaural or HRTF (head related transfer function). This is old shit, like VERY old - games in the 90s already had binaural support. It's unfortunate that it never took off and I'm glad that Cerny has made it a focus and that he recognizes the leap in audio fidelity from PS3 to PS4 has been rather mundane. He talks about how headphones will be the 'gold' standard for gaming audio, while true I don't exactly agree.

For competitive shooters, yeah headphones undeniably gives you an edge and if binaural is well implemented - it's really an experience to behold, especially if you have good headphones to begin with.

But I'm not going to play the next God of War with headphones. I want to feel the bass ripping into my guts and I want to get a massage on my spine. Headphones cannot do that. With that, I hope the PS5 pushes the forefront for dedicated speaker setups too - i.e making Dolby Atmos and DTS:X mandatory. If they can support Auro3D, all the better but I doubt that's ever going to happen.


SSD as standard storage

The last but extremely important one. Yes, storage speed has been the bane of consoles this entire generation. There are a few ways Sony can go into doing this and my speculations are:

- A traditional 1TB SSD as the minimum either in 7mm 9.5" form factor or M.2 standard.
- 1TB SSD soldered onto the board itself, hence lower cost but that means no more storage change from the consumer side.
- An SSD cache of a considerable size (256GB perhaps) to cache the most frequently loaded game onto it while other unplayed games goes onto a mechanical HDD.

From what Cerny is saying about how the SSD will be "custom" built for the PS5, it seems that he's actually talking about the controller and not the NAND. I'm not sure if Sony's semiconductor arm is big enough to produce high demand NANDs or not (someone correct me here). But anyways, I'm fairly certain that Sony wants to make their own controller for the SSD so that they can dictate on every level how data can be stored and cached, as well as managing write wear levels.

The last one is important, because the storage is obviously going to need to be cost effective which means QLC NANDs are most definitely going to be used. Considering the PS5 will be always recording like the PS4 does, it would mean that large amount of data will be written and deleted all the time, at a much higher bitrate (for 4k support). I'm curious to see how Sony will manage the wear rate of the NAND here.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Apr 18 2019, 05:50 PM

hate the word 'custom' somehow reminds me of the word 'proprietary' which means 'expensive' and 'vita memory card'

When hardware has to fit within a budget in an all-in-one box, it needs to be custom. That's simply how the economy for manufacturing works and yeah, it could be a double edged sword.

Here's hoping users can still switch out their own storage though.

Arent normal hdd are durable than ssd? especially transfer large data will stress the heat internal part.

Yes and no. NANDs has limited write/rewrite cycles, that's just the nature of of it. But at the same time because solid state storage doesn't have moving parts, it's also one less part to fail.

HDDs are just way too slow today. Only good for archival storage.

no way..tht is far too expensive...

most probably 1599 - 1699

My take on this.

1. Announced in 2020 Q3, should be somewhere around Olympic. Can just buy it from Japan at that time if you can't wait for the Malaysia release.

2. 8k due to the Japan newest 8K standard. But remember, it doesn't mean that the games will be made in 8K eventhough it supports. Not to mention that nowadays the toppest spec still cannot run game smoothly in 4k@60p. The 8k in here probably just refer to the 8k TV streaming service or blu ray spec.

3. Backward compatibility! Great! You can buy PS4 games as much as as you can now without worrying that you can't play in PS5. Sony can concentate on working on new game instead of wasting time on keep remastering the old games.

4. SSD is welcome. But at the same time the cost will be increased.

5. 2020 announced. Most likely will only be coming in Malaysia in 2021. So still got roughly 2 years to wait. Time to save money now.

6. If the specs are true, the price is definitely more than RM2000 ish. Unless Sony is willing the bear the hardware cost (since they earn a lot on the PSN/software part), which I am doubt so.

This post has been edited by Max2006: Apr 19 2019, 07:58 PM

They're using AMD APU,
Backward compatibility will be least of our concert as PS4 also using x86 APU, unless there's major hardware/software difference.

Unlike PS3 using PowerPC based CPU.

but I'll doubt there gonna be 100% backward compatibility

take XB1 example of X360 games backward compatibility, it's not all are compatible, MS still need to work on the older games to make it compatible

Big games from major studio or Sony's own pretty much will be guaranteed backward compatible, but smaller games from smaller studios? don't bet on it

Good news. Here's my take.
They will definitely make a newer controller with this. DS5 with more customization. I would welcome a controller that can function as a joycon for vr gameplay as well as modified controller for shootemup games. Something like nintendo switch joycon is capable of right now.

The console shape has always been a flat book style, I'd like it to look more organic and different, like a Mac tower. Its more sightly especially if place on the media cabinet. Sharp edges are old.

I don't know what is up with bluray, but it doesn't seem like its advancing much these days. I would love if ps5 make a bold move to go entirely digital.

I love the integration between sony mobile and ps4, but it just doesnt gain any attention. They should just make share play open to both android and ios. I love the idea of playing ps games on my phone.

This post has been edited by funnyTONE: Apr 22 2019, 02:06 PM

There are already many prototypes of a DS5. But it seems very likely that the shape won't change that much, but only with an addition of a touchscreen instead. But eh, controller designs change from month to month so anything can still happen.

The PS3 was rounded, beveled. Most people don't seem to like it.

Blu-Ray had no advancement? We went for 25GB to 100GB and upcoming 200GB discs in less than 10 years for consumers. We already have 3TB discs but most people won't have the money to afford them. There's really not much else that can be done on optical media as far as revolutionary ideas go.

CPU clock speed is rumoured to be at 1.8GHz with a boost clock of 3.2GHz. It may be based off AMD Gonzalo processor that is dubbed as Navi lite around the Chiphell forum. Take this with a pinch of salt, if you will.

SOS: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalf...essor-in-theory

I will respect Sony if PS5 is backward compatible with PS3.
I will respect more if existing PS3 digital games is directly useable on PS5 just like what Microsoft did with Xbox one.

What MS did with XB1's backward compatibility is a very diff case compared to PS3

For PS5, that's very very unlikely due to architect difference between PS3 and PS4/PS5
Doubt Sony gonna invest in developing an PS3 emulator just to have backward compatibility for PS3 games

here hoping

Nothing to hope because economically speaking, it makes way more sense to push PS Now to a wider audience than to kill themselves trying to make a PS3 emulator.

PS3 compatibility is only through the cloud, Sony has made that very clear.

If they implement cloud version i rather say they can just remove it.

Remember squeenix shinra tech cloud base? they just discontinue loss 16mil usd.

future gen gaming will be GaaS (Game as a Service) based in cloud, there's no escape from it as time goes by and the tech matured

MS released a dickless diskless XboxOne, Google is already going ahead with it's Stadia, while Sony already had it's PS Now years back

So I won't be surprised if PS Now will be available worldwide when PS5 is launched

Who knows? we might even get different tier of PS+ subscription, like PS+ Silver just for online gaming, PS+ Gold for online + IGC, and PS+ Platinum for online + IGC + PS Now?

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Apr 24 2019, 09:36 AM

i think later, all games will be sold as DIGITIZED version only.
seeing that internet technology is improving day by day.

frankly, i prefer digital rather than disc.

buat menyemak ja simpan dalam almari.

I prefer digital too.
But there has been cases where Sony has banned a console, PSN account and all your games.
One guy was caught trolling/talking trash online, so they banned him and all his digital games.

Let’s say you’ve been using some glitch to benefit in an online multiplayer game, that technically gives Sony the right to ban your own account and any digital games tied to it.


“You’ve 2 years PS+ subs and more than 2k worth of games in your account? Too bad. They’re gone now. You should not have trolled/cheated.”

This post has been edited by LegendLee: Apr 25 2019, 04:13 PM

Be a half decent human and not a shit eating, butthash licking sub human and you'll be fine.

I once have my account suspended because of some issues with PayPal. It was for an add on worth less than 10 bucks.
Due to that, I wasn’t able to access my entire library and play online.
It was settled only after a week.

Sony can remove your access to your digital games/ban your account for many reasons. Sharing an account with your brother? They can technically ban you for that too.

I don't mind if the infrastructure for game streaming is good enough for console games where they can't be modded anyway excepting a few outliers.


I still remember OnLive that were hyped up back in 2009. It was too soon for that kind of thing back then I guess.

I only buy physical disc version. u can keep the game forever (truely forever), resell, exchange, share with anyone. Digital games u just pay to buy a 'pass' to access the game. If one day a game is 'removed' from the store, u will lose the access to it too.

True story for games bought on iOS and Android. Some games get remove due to policy.

Anyway still good with Steam where games I bought as long as 10+ years ago stil available

it due to the partnership with the game companies end also.

that's why digital games, even u bought, u dun 'own' it technically.

digital world is moving, u may not know that anytime steam can be replaced by other things in future.

This post has been edited by westlife: Jun 29 2019, 10:51 PM

I want my Horizon Zero Dawn 2!!!

This post has been edited by miyakochan89: Jul 2 2019, 11:16 AM

True

Hopefully Sony don't come out with a PS5 Pro bullshit again this time

Judging from Sony past track records?
I'll bet you they sure will!
another sure thing is there gonna be PS5 Slim

PS5 Slim I understand, but the Pro version, god damn XD

Why is that a bullshit ? They are not actually in the same league .

First of all the Pro edition is more expensive than the normal PS4 .

Not to mention , the PRO are made for people who have higher end gaming setups and can actually benefit from the upgrade.
(PS4 can do HDR too but there are barely any 1080P TV that can really play HDR )

Majority of the people wouldn't give a damn about these upgrades since they would just slap it on their cheap display / monitor and call it a day .


So I don't know why would you feel bad about that . It is like you spending more money to buy a better PC and got a better gaming exp , you get what you paid for .
If they renew the exact same model , provide it with substantial gaming upgrades and launching it with the same price , that is bullshit.

This post has been edited by Convael: Sep 2 2019, 01:28 PM

iianm
Vanilla PS4 still running when Ps5 debut

PS4
PS4 Pro
PS5

There is over a 100 million PS4s shipped, Sony won't be dropping support for the base model any time soon. The last time this happened, the PS2 specifically - it stayed on for so long.

More over with backwards compatibility being one of the core focus for the PS5 - it's easy to see why the PS4 will continue to sell well for at least the next 2 years.

PS5's backward compatibility will kill PS4 faster.
The new buyer will be interested with PS5 only. PS5 gamers don't need to buy PS4 to play PS4 exclusive game.

Existing PS4 users will stick to PS4 if the game devs making multi port game compatible until they stopped do that in few more years. Looking at PS3-PS4 situation, yeah they could happen. Sony will always favours demands, that's the reason they abandoned Vita early despite still in good selling in Japan.

So the PS4 platform itself is still running but maybe not on production units.

You only look from the gamer's perspective.

In order for the PS5 to actually hit its targets, the PS5 isn't going to be selling as cheap as the PS4. That is for sure. The PS5 comes out, the PS4 drops in price for those who just wants an entry level machine to play games. The enthusiasts will pick the PS5. Either way, it generates the revenue Sony wants into their ecosystem.

Production for PS4 isn't stopping anytime soon.

Maybe they will phased out the Slim ver and keeping the Pro ver. Even Nintendo already discontinued the normal 3DS, XL while keeping 2DS. The thing is even after PS4 Pro made, there are barely interesting thing on PS4. Some more new gamers prefer to gaming system that can play on higher setting with 60fps which is PS5 will be capable.

If the PS5 has a good exclusive during launch that justifies the price, then you'll see many early adopters.

If its main draw during launch is a current gen game GOW or Spiderman with updated graphics, content and 60 fps I dont think it'll be enough.

The PlayStation 5 Will Launch In Late 2020

Seeing how hi tech the specs are,pricing would be an issue. Ssd itself is few hundreds more de.

2599 perhaps

since they will give you the choice of options for modular installation like multiplayer or campaign only, don't expect the SSD to be too big
I would expect the standard spec comes with maximum 500Gb SSD only
or even 256Gb if they decided to be cheapskate about it

and for the type of the SSD? I'll bet it gonna be a PCIE 3.0 x4 M.2 NVME SSD in order to bring the cost down
but who knows, it could be a faster & more expensive PCIE 4.0 x8 M.2 NVME SSD?

interested in the backward compatibility.

With the current ps4 pro priced around 1799, and considered within affordability range, a Ps5 pro would cost perhaps about 2.5k with 1.8 for standard vanilla.

even with that price, i mean its okla... compare to current flagship phone models costing way above RM3.5k.. a next gen video game console can at least last for 5 years.. even with rm2k starting price, ill still purchase at first day.

if got battlefield 6 with 100 player plus 60fps for ps5 then day one for me.

I'd rather they charge it at a high price than try to short change people like with the PS4, which was already outdated even before it release.

This post has been edited by SSJBen: Oct 11 2019, 12:56 AM

If they go the mobile phone way then PS4 should continue to exist.

Maybe like games from now onwards can only be play by PS4 pro and ps5 then later 2.5 years release ps5 pro and games only support by ps5 onwards.

This can be done so by having more higher demand graphics pushing the PS4 to being obsolete.

This post has been edited by ps3 fanboy: Oct 16 2019, 02:34 PM

(concept images)






Imagine buy DS5 controller nearly Rm500.
Think PS5 will be around Rm2500. Not a problem since high end smartphone is priced more than that.



This post has been edited by nazrul90: Nov 15 2019, 08:34 PM

I wll buy ps5 depends on the game. Bought my ps3 n ps4 bcos of Metal Gear Solid.
So for ps5 will buy if elder scroll 6 come together

Rumor has it PS5 will have backward compatibility from PS1 up to PS4.

I've never bought console on release. But PS5 kinda excites me.
This is gonna be a generational leap for sure. Using SSD, ray tracing.

It actually doesn't look good at all for the Playstation. Simply because a lot of the higher ups from Sony left. Kinda saying that something isn't going well especially the Playstation division.

In the end it all depends on the exclusives for me. Also PS5 has VR decoder and what nto build in and the old PSVR will work with it, so I'll probably get that for some VR games.

That is pretty odd take on PlayStation current situation.

In my opinion and from what it looks like, PlayStation is healthy than ever, Jim Ryan brings good vibes and changes, overall ps5 gearing up well. PlayStation 4 strong Memento will give smooth transition for ps5 too.

Game developers all mature with their games and made impact on sales.

As for VR, Sony smart enough to get VR it's own developer rather than pushing main first party.

Ps4 digital attached rate will bring better sales for ps5 also.

Higher up leaving is normal, its happen in all industry. Also " alot of higher ups left " is exaggerated

You'll see how good it is when it is out. Most of the key people left for a reason, and you think people are just giving up and leaving for no reason? That's quite some logic there. PS3 and Xbox 360 was head to head, and do you see how good Xbox One is against PS4? If shit happens it will be the other way around if people want it to be. There was barely any competition current gen, that's why Sony was freaking naive about crossplay, in the end they give in to it, that's one of the thing that show how arrogant they are. Sony when they are winning isn't as good when they aren't winning.

Personally I don't give a shit about console wars or being a fanboy, because I buy every one of them either way, and play what I want, rather than being attached to one specific brand. The more competition the better, because that actually is the best for consumer. Next E3 presentation, console pricing, release date, exclusive launch game line-up, and features of the console will most likely decide the outcome. Because the spec won't really decide it this time because it is reported they are pretty much similar this time.

That add to all that, with Netflix like subs for games like Xbox Game pass would be game changer if Sony had one as well, because currently that's what's good about Xbox at least. Just for 10usd a month, you can play any new games that is out at launch, and other games included, for a fair and cheap price. You know the craze about Netflix like subs, Apple is doing it, Disney joining the fray, as well as Google now. Best value if Playstation has one as well, that's what I'm hoping for when they show the PS5, and all it's info.

This post has been edited by Rei7: Nov 23 2019, 06:19 PM

Oh my, that's alot to counter haha, it seem your take on PlayStation leadership is different.
You are right, people leaving because something is happening within management. But it is good thing rather than bad things as you are believing. Some will make smart decision n get promoted.
The sales, 1st party direction, 3rd party deals and much more indicates something right?

I'm not sure how well u know regarding ps3 and xbox360 gen history, beginning of the gen, xbox has the lead and they control all deals. Publishers will go for the money. Remember gta4 dlc? Well it's all what started.
Now PlayStation taking that crown, and of course they will play the best to get all people on PlayStation, that is why they didn't let crossplay. This is business decision and Ms will do (have done) the same if they are the leaders.
This is not understandable to gamers, so Sony will be evil because not open up, gamers just want everything, they doesnt care why Sony took that stand. If things getting worse, then Sony will change stand because why? Well business decisions again.

Deep down all developer knows that crossplay is just to make the game alive longer with better lobby matching.

Digital purchases will make big impact next gen, Ms understand that, that is why they going for subscription mode, and offered 1 usd upgrade to game pass, who have live gets free max 3 years free game pass, in time to next gen.

I have interesting take on gamepass after subscribed for 2 years. Will write up after dinner

Game pass is awesome, great value, all 1st party releasing on game pass and incredibly cheap for the contents.
But it seem didn't take cover the sales of games and ps4 game sales doing well. How?
There is a hole in how next gen will pay out with gamepass offering. Most of game pass subscription came from 1 usd upgrade from live member.

I sub to 2 years of live and get 2 years of ultimate. Played gears 5, then I also bought control and death stranding recently. Star wars looks great and it's from respawn. Sure picking up on next salary. Now I felt wasted sub to game pass, because by the time I finish all this games, next year q1 and q2 release is insane. So now I see game pass as 1st party pass. Because all this game not releasing on game pass.

I read up gamepass impression and community, it's all about people that just play what gamepass offer. They happy with games offered and hoping games they want to be release on game pass.

Basically what I coming to is, gamepass will not impact on next gen success.
And your example of Disney, apple coming to market is bad if translated to gaming world.

Imagine ea (they already have), ubisoft, SE, Sony, Ms, take2 all start their on subscription offering and start to make games to complete with each others.. We know how GAAS cost some of developers and game franchise.

Well it could be how it might shape to be, and yes good value but not much to offer at times. I just borrow the game pass ultimate from a friend in the netherlands who love his xbox lol, at least all first party titled game I was able to play on PC.

Also you never know how it might shape to be, but Sony, Microsoft and the other players still have a ton of money. Might end up like them buying exclusive 3rd party rights for such sub model if that ever takes off. That is correct tho, not very good for gaming industry in a way, considering how costly game development cost. But lets say a lot of indie game dev are on board and what not, it's actually not so bad la. In the end people might end up paying for such sub, or just buy a game separately. Just a new trend thing this days. Because yeah casual gamers vs hardcore gamers. There is just market for such a thing.

Playing field for both PS vs Xbox gonna be a lot different next gen anyway, because of the number of game dev they bought, sure not all is as gold as Xbox, but with the right management, time and budget I'm sure both sides can deliver great games. I think im the end it will just be which games will have the most exclusives for gamers. Features and what not hard to say atm. Game streaming, game sub, vr and other stuff could be a deciding factor as well.

Also I don't think Xbox will make the same mistake as last time. So the gap might not be as wide for next gen. Here in Malaysia and also other Asia region, most likely PS will still be the number one choice. Just look at Japan for Xbox, dead market there.

Regarding crossplay actually it impacted a lot of players who uses different platform wanting to play with their friends. Also those who play on PC and also Nintendo. That's why at some point Microsoft and Nintendo team up making a video about how Minecraft is crossplatform for both Switch and Xbox One. That actually boosted a bit of sale and Playstation had to respond for it. After a whole they actually allow Fortnite and some other game for crossplay.

If you ask me la, even Playstation have to get the crossplay right next gen if not there will be bad press in the community. Xbox having backwards compatibility also made Sony push for backwards compatibility next gen. So in the end a healthy competition made all this decisions happening.

I relax je if next gen has a lot of exclusive I want to play, i'll just buy that console to play. I still game on my PC and Nintendo as well because best of everything man.

Announcenment of PS5 in CES 2020.





The logo of PS5. There's a hint when you turn it upside down.


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So does it backward compatible? Tempted with series X atm

meh announcement, nothing that we don't know yet

This is just a brief introduction. Of course they won't reveal so much details. They save it for the upcoming Playstation Meeting in feb.

Sony already confirmed the PS5 will play PS4 games.

PlayStation 5 specs and details:
◾Custom SoC with second-gen Navi GPU, Zen 2 CPU
◾8-Core, 16-thread Zen 2 CPU at 3.2GHz
◾Navi GPU at 2.0GHz with 36 Compute Units
◾Navi, Zen SoC uses new AMD RDNA 2.0 architecture
◾Ultra-fast SSD
◾Support for 4K 120 Hz TVs
◾Ray-tracing enabled
◾8K output support (for gaming)
◾Plays all PS4 games
◾Separate games that ship on BD-XL Blu-ray discs
◾New controller with extensive haptic and tactile feedback

Hi gamers. Would like to know your opinion about TV or PC monitor for PS5.

Is HDMI 2.1 crucial for the tv/monitor for PS5?

If yes, might hold off tv purchase as 90% of tv doesn't support HDMI 2.1 and oled tv is expensive

unless you're aiming for top of the range, flagship TV models, don't bother to look for HDMI 2.1 in normal TV range
native refresh rate for most 4K TVs are 60Hz only, you won't get any benefits even it came with HDMI 2.1

and for monitor, 4K monitors are very expensive as well, a 4K/144Hz monitor still pretty rare nowadays in M'sia

IMO, any mid range branded 4K TV should be good enough for PS5, aim for Samsung, LG or Sony

That's the thing. I noticed cheapest tv model is LG C9 oled tv with HDMI 2.1 which is around RM8k now in Lazada

Ces 2020 announced 48" Oled but not sure the full spec yet.

I'm thinking of Panasonic gx 740 tv.
https://www.panasonic.com/my/consumer/home-...740k.specs.html

Pointless of getting a TV this time of the year. When the PS5 is expected to come out Holiday this year. Best to wait as long as Black Friday to get the best TV deal. Worse pricing atm.

My opinion, 10.10 sales is even better than black Friday sales here in 2019.

Not sure about TVs though

Not for high end tvs, only normal tvs good on those kind of sale. Black Friday sales in Malaysia sadly need to go to stores to get best deal, online sale they show normal only Usually I go to Harvey Norman, they have really good TV deals when Black Friday. They restock a lot as well just for that day, because most will be sold.

Plays “all” PS4 games?
That’s good. No reason to wait then.

Need to wait and see what game titles launch for PS5. I'm in no hurry to get it. First year usually overpriced anyway.

Didn't know that about black Friday sales. TV now not for game console only, Netflix and YouTube too.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Still will be the leader of home entertainment just like how apple leads the mobile market . Eg. Airpods

"..Sony will reportedly have "PS5 only" launch titles that won't be playable on PS4 or any other platform, according to new information from industry source Jason Schreier."

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Gamesradar

The thing is Sony is skipping E3 again urgh..

E3 is dying anyway, a lot of major brands are skipping E3

also could be due to MS is very likely to showcase their new XSeX with a playable demo unit while Sony isn't ready to showcase PS5
joining E3 without a PS5 while Xbox has a playable demo is gonna be a disaster for Sony
no point joining MS in the pissing contest when they're not ready, also could be one of the marketing tactics, wait for MS to announce their plan first only then reveal their own plan to counter it

just wait for TGS in Sept, I think there should be a playable demo set by then, with an infinite long queue to it

This post has been edited by greyshadow: Jan 15 2020, 09:06 AM

E3 is still a thing like it or not. People skipping yet they still have their own show during the time of E3, says that E3 is still relevant. If it isn't then they should stop having something to show during E3 haha. Sony just has nothing to show.

Personally I think Sony is way behind this time. They aren't ready to show shit and I have a feeling it might just gonna be delayed as well. Personally best to wait after a year or so, see how thing goes. I just feel Xbox is way ready this time after Xbone doing so bad, but exclusive wise especially JP games, they aren't on par, so for me no point also getting on Xbox, get a PC and could still enjoy the exclusives haha.

It's just bad skipping E3. But yes TGS sounds better, especially for Sony.

they already committed to this year end holiday launch for PS5, they can't afford a delay, else they'll face a major shit storms from both fans & investors :lol：
if they missed the year end holiday sales rush, the next possible launch date gonna be somewhere in march 2021

if they still have nothing to show, or at least a physical console look after E3, we can be pretty sure Sony is having some problem there
or maybe they just wanna avoid another "boomerang controller" fiasco like last time

Feels like sony is playing catch up games like ps3 time where they pathetically failed

Xbox Series X spec is a beast
lets see how Sony can counter it

Still PS3 was better than the xbox360.
Because of the red ring of death.

Which bring us to the next generation.
Heat management is critical. And Microsoft seems to be doing very well on that end with the X-SeX.
I hope the PS5 will not overheat/loud fans.

i mean that it took ps3 few years to catch up, and ps3 got its own problem too. xbox also learned their problem. see tonite what they can announce. i was fedup with sony silence since last year while xbox throwing watever they can. it makes minecraft raytracing looks like a win, since nothing was shown by sony lol.