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 PlayStation 5 discussion, RM2299 /RM1869, 11/12/2020 MY Launch

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post Oct 5 2020, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 5 2020, 09:19 AM)
Imagine going with the Digital Version - how many games can you install  rolleyes.gif
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Well, you have to install the game with the Physical PS5 edition anyway, though you can install via local media instead of internet.
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post Oct 5 2020, 09:54 AM

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Ps5 also being incredibly quiet is a very good thing. Might get it once the opportunity to buy it at RRP or lower comes.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 5 2020, 09:19 AM)
Imagine going with the Digital Version - how many games can you install  rolleyes.gif
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disc version also need to install la
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post Oct 5 2020, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Oct 5 2020, 09:19 AM)
Imagine going with the Digital Version - how many games can you install  rolleyes.gif
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The disc works as an authentical access. You still need to install the game into the storage, no matter it's disc version or digital version. Surprisingly, a lot of people including some playstation owners don't aware about this.
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post Oct 5 2020, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Oct 5 2020, 10:41 AM)
The disc works as an authentical access. You still need to install the game into the storage, no matter it's disc version or digital version. Surprisingly, a lot of people including some playstation owners don't aware about this.
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I honestly can't remember when was the last time I bought a disc game for my console - all the time only purchase digital versions until I don't even know how does the disc works anymore. tongue.gif
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post Oct 5 2020, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 4 2020, 04:08 PM)
Apparently PS5 is only going to have 664GB of usable space after provisioning and reserve for the OS.

Lol.
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I read about that. I was hoping it would only take up roughly around 100GB like the PS4. On top of that PS5 game file install sizes could be bigger as well. 1TB should be at least the bare minimum.
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QUOTE(DJ-Spike @ Oct 5 2020, 02:04 PM)
I read about that.  I was hoping it would only take up roughly around 100GB like the PS4.  On top of that PS5 game file install sizes could be bigger as well.  1TB should be at least the bare minimum.
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Doubt the OS is taking up that much space, it's space provisioning so the SSD can remain at its optimum speed for longer periods of time. SSD's performance can drop if you fill the NANDs up to the brim and the controller no longer has anymore spare flash space to rewrite data.

The promise is that they're pushing devs to allow only certain parts of their game to be installed or uninstalled as required by the users. Works for games with SP and MP modes I guess, but ultra huge SP games? Uh yeah... that's another problem of its own.

1TB could have been the bare minimum, if you guys are okay with pay $600 for a console.
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post Oct 5 2020, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 5 2020, 03:24 PM)
Doubt the OS is taking up that much space, it's space provisioning so the SSD can remain at its optimum speed for longer periods of time. SSD's performance can drop if you fill the NANDs up to the brim and the controller no longer has anymore spare flash space to rewrite data.

The promise is that they're pushing devs to allow only certain parts of their game to be installed or uninstalled as required by the users. Works for games with SP and MP modes I guess, but ultra huge SP games? Uh yeah... that's another problem of its own.

1TB could have been the bare minimum, if you guys are okay with pay $600 for a console.
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How is MS able to price their Series X at $500 then?

Also, IGN has said that the Xbox Series X has only 802GB left of useable space due to OS taking up some of that space.
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post Oct 5 2020, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(DJ-Spike @ Oct 5 2020, 04:32 PM)
How is MS able to price their Series X at $500 then?

Also, IGN has said that the Xbox Series X has only 802GB left of useable space due to OS taking up some of that space.
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ps5 usd499 no?
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QUOTE(DJ-Spike @ Oct 5 2020, 04:32 PM)
How is MS able to price their Series X at $500 then?

Also, IGN has said that the Xbox Series X has only 802GB left of useable space due to OS taking up some of that space.
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You have to understand that XSX is not using the same SSD as the PS5. Sony's own SSD is proprietary, especially its controller. MS is mostly off the shelf, just with a custom PCB form factor. It's also why MS partnered with Seagate so that they can monopolize all external storage for the XSX.

Yeah you can replace the PS5's SSD with a standard PCIE4.0 nvme drive, but you can't use the PS5's SSD anywhere else even if it could fit on your motherboard's m.2 slot.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 5 2020, 04:37 PM)
ps5 usd499 no?
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Yeah. I should've said $499 but it's essentially $500 anyways.lol

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 5 2020, 04:50 PM)
You have to understand that XSX is not using the same SSD as the PS5. Sony's own SSD is proprietary, especially its controller. MS is mostly off the shelf, just with a custom PCB form factor. It's also why MS partnered with Seagate so that they can monopolize all external storage for the XSX.

Yeah you can replace the PS5's SSD with a standard PCIE4.0 nvme drive, but you can't use the PS5's SSD anywhere else even if it could fit on your motherboard's m.2 slot.
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Gotcha.

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QUOTE(DJ-Spike @ Oct 5 2020, 04:32 PM)
How is MS able to price their Series X at $500 then?

Also, IGN has said that the Xbox Series X has only 802GB left of useable space due to OS taking up some of that space.
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PS5 left 5XX usable according to JP reviewer


250gb to install modern warfare
ok can play one more game only tongue.gif
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post Oct 6 2020, 09:05 AM

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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Oct 6 2020, 08:28 AM)
PS5 left 5XX usable according to JP reviewer
250gb to install modern warfare
ok can play one more game only  tongue.gif
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wow that is sad.. 500+gb, i foresee need to keep delete and install. unless can plug 1 usb hard drive then the game can save to external then transfer in when wan to play. if this can be managed properly. if not 500gb is really nightmate. 1tb at ps4 cant even install 10 games now.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 6 2020, 09:05 AM)
wow that is sad.. 500+gb, i foresee need to keep delete and install. unless can plug 1 usb hard drive then the game can save to external then transfer in when wan to play. if this can be managed properly. if not 500gb is really nightmate. 1tb at ps4 cant even install 10 games now.
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can plug in ext but looks like can only play ps4 game

ps5 game must install in internal SSD
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If you have high speed internet I don't think its a big issue.
I can finish downloading a game in less than 1 hour with 500Mbps. Just keep the few games that you play the most at a time.

Like yesterday I wanted to play MHW Iceborne, so I started the download and went to take a bath. When I came back it's ready to play.
Around 20-25 min.
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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 6 2020, 09:39 AM)
If you have high speed internet I don't think its a big issue.
I can finish downloading a game in less than 1 hour with 500Mbps. Just keep the few games that you play the most at a time.

Like yesterday I wanted to play MHW Iceborne, so I started the download and went to take a bath. When I came back it's ready to play.
Around 20-25 min.
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not everyone got the luxury for 500mbps lol. i hope they can like offload to external, then load back to internal later. that would be a good way to manage. if u wan swap pcie4.0 drive, 1tb now also almost 800-1k.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 6 2020, 09:46 AM)
not everyone got the luxury for 500mbps lol. i hope they can like offload to external, then load back to internal later. that would be a good way to manage. if u wan swap pcie4.0 drive, 1tb now also almost 800-1k.
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I think Xbox has this feature. PS5 need it as well man.
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QUOTE(victorr @ Oct 6 2020, 09:54 AM)
I think Xbox has this feature. PS5 need it as well man.
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yeah and xbox has ready add on for the expandable storage. PS5 fuk it man, they cannot let u put 2 drive. at least u can have 2 drives working in series, ps5 they give u 800gb, u upgrade aslo buy 1tb only for now more worth money, then u also expand 200gb only, got wat use that 200gb lol.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Oct 6 2020, 08:14 AM)
yeah and xbox has ready add on for the expandable storage. PS5 fuk it man, they cannot let u put 2 drive. at least u can have 2 drives working in series, ps5 they give u 800gb, u upgrade aslo buy 1tb only for now more worth money, then u also expand 200gb only, got wat use that 200gb lol.
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I believe SONY will release a firmware update later on to add external HDD support just like they did with PS4
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QUOTE(Deathhunter @ Oct 6 2020, 10:16 AM)
I believe SONY will release a firmware update later on to add external HDD support just like they did with PS4
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ps4 external is can play game from there? or is like just storage, then need transfer to internal to play? because USB is waaaaaay to slow even u use SSD, dont have that bandwidth.

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