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post Aug 5 2007, 08:30 AM

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Snap a picture for us to see, S panels are almost mythical now! laugh.gif
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post Aug 5 2007, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 5 2007, 01:39 AM)
got difference if u watch at a same distance when u re working with ur pc.
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Where do you think I sit then? 50 feets away from my PC? The resolution of 30" is simply too big for gimmick like that to work.
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hi everyone. i've been goin through this thread (not all 70 of them of course tongue.gif) and my choices have boiled down to either the 206bw or the 226bw. the price diff between the two is generally less than 200...but i've heard that the quality is better on the 20 cuz both models have the same per pixel (...) somethig like that. i'm also a bit worried about the panel..heard that i shud avoid the A panel, and that S was the best. some recent posts also mentioned about lag, though i think my x2 3800+ and x1950pro with 2gig ram shud b fine for the native resolution no? if i cant play at the native and only at 1280 for example, would the screen look weird?!

my lcd would be mainly for watching series/movies and gaming. wud really appreciate any input from owners of both models. thanks a bunch!!
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QUOTE(maximsilentfoot @ Aug 5 2007, 11:36 AM)
hi everyone. i've been goin through this thread (not all 70 of them of course tongue.gif) and my choices have boiled down to either the 206bw or the 226bw. the price diff between the two is generally less than 200...but i've heard that the quality is better on the 20 cuz both models have the same per pixel (...) somethig like that. i'm also a bit worried about the panel..heard that i shud avoid the A panel, and that S was the best. some recent posts also mentioned about lag, though i think my x2 3800+ and x1950pro with 2gig ram shud b fine for the native resolution no? if i cant play at the native and only at 1280 for example, would the screen look weird?!

my lcd would be mainly for watching series/movies and gaming. wud really appreciate any input from owners of both models. thanks a bunch!!
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get 226bw since the price difference is very few. And because the resolution on a 20" is the same as 22", so viewing fonts on a 20" is very small and hurt your eyes. And also another reason is, 20" is way overpriced, for Samsung 20" which is around rm900, u can get 22" from other brands such as dell or acer alrdy.

ur specs should be fine with the native reso, I ve the same specs as urs, i ve tried that on CNC3 and COH on 1680*1050 with the same details on 1280*1024, the fps at most only a few lesser compare to 1280*1024, no worries
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I have a question

I have a 8800gtx from evga

and I would like to know there is two output for DVI
is that mean I can plug on two monitor at the same time ?

can I play games with 2 monitor at the same time like matrox did ?

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QUOTE(kunamiya @ Aug 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
I have a question

I have a 8800gtx from evga

and I would like to know there is two output for DVI
is that mean I can plug on two monitor at the same time ?

can I play games with 2 monitor at the same time like matrox did ?
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Yes you can plug in 2 monitors at the same time. Playing on 2 monitors would depend on the application support, iianm.
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post Aug 5 2007, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(kunamiya @ Aug 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
I have a question

I have a 8800gtx from evga

and I would like to know there is two output for DVI
is that mean I can plug on two monitor at the same time ?

can I play games with 2 monitor at the same time like matrox did ?
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So far...I only know Supreme Commander can support 2 monitors at the same time that are functionally different. Others are just clone monitors...meaning what you see on one monitor is replcated unto the second monitor...not useful if you ask me.
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QUOTE(genkis3 @ Aug 5 2007, 02:36 AM)
just open up the box and found it's LTM220M1 = S panel
bought rm1100 + free gift from mega online,penang... can go there if u looking for s panel.
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Good to see the "S" panels making a come back. The 226BW sold by strongbaby on the Bulk Orders section also "S" panel for the recent stock.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
get 226bw since the price difference is very few. And because the resolution on a 20" is the same as 22", so viewing fonts on a 20" is very small and hurt your eyes. And also another reason is, 20" is way overpriced, for Samsung 20" which is around rm900, u can get 22" from other brands such as dell or acer alrdy.

ur specs should be fine with the native reso, I ve the same specs as urs, i ve tried that on CNC3 and COH on 1680*1050 with the same details on 1280*1024, the fps at most only a few lesser compare to 1280*1024, no worries
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What make u say that? Anyway the samsung 20" 206BW has 3000:1 contrast ratio, 2ms which other cheaper brand dont hav or u just dont care about gaming image quality etc.



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post Aug 5 2007, 03:35 PM

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I've tried to check for the A/C/S after the model number for the 226BW and there is no sign of Alphabet used! Samsung wont let us know which panel is it now!:)

BTW, can my 7600GT support 1680*1050 for gaming? Another question, if i'm watching DVD movies on my 22" will it still be pixelated if i'm watching 8 feet away from the LCD? Cant find pirated HD movies on the roadside! LOL
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 5 2007, 03:00 PM)
What make u say that? Anyway the samsung 20" 206BW has 3000:1 contrast ratio, 2ms which other cheaper brand dont hav or u just dont care about gaming image quality etc.
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dude... first of all, instead of blindly believing that 3000:1 contrast ratio and also that 2 ms, pls go read some review and image test about that samsung first

although the image quality of that is better than dell or some others, but their claim of 3000:1 and 2 ms is well disputed and doesn't reflect the real world application at most time

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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 5 2007, 01:54 AM)
That's why getting only 20" is sufficient. Wasting money getting 22" coz the optimum resolution is the same.
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I don't agree with this. Even though, the optimum resolution is same for both 20" and 22", the 22" screen is significantly larger. My E228WFP is cheaper compare to some 20" wide-screen, so i don't feel wasting my money. You might argue that 20" might have better quality panel, better response time or richer color, i feel its too small for me. I would feel wasted my money for a smaller 20" screen. For me, the viewing fonts on 20" is way to small and i hate that. Different people, different taste.
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QUOTE(clayclws @ Aug 5 2007, 01:38 PM)
So far...I only know Supreme Commander can support 2 monitors at the same time that are functionally different. Others are just clone monitors...meaning what you see on one monitor is replcated unto the second monitor...not useful if you ask me.
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Not true. I run a dual monitor setup and you don't necessarily clone the desktops. I normally have a movie/game running on the primary display and have non essential stuff like vista widgets, messenger, firefox, i-tunes running on my secondary display. Yes having an extended desktop rawks. For work it's even better, excel on one screen, word on another, etc.. really improves productivity. It's so easy to set up a dual monitor extended desktop as well, all done in the driver, which even has a wizard for idiots!

In terms of having a game run over 2 desktops and have some added functionality, it all depends on whether the application supports it or not. I would say even then, I can't see it adding much to my enjoyment of a game.

edit: to keep within topic, this is the widescreen thread after all, i have a total of 1680+1280 pixel width to clutter up my desktop with thumbup.gif

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I saw one of the product name "MATROX"
they connected 3 LCD on 1 VGA output and the game play called surround game play

Woot . what i can say is excellent

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but the product is hard to find so .. i am wondering can i connect 2 lcd on my 8800gtx Dvi output so i can play like this
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Aug 5 2007, 12:33 PM)
get 226bw since the price difference is very few. And because the resolution on a 20" is the same as 22", so viewing fonts on a 20" is very small and hurt your eyes. And also another reason is, 20" is way overpriced, for Samsung 20" which is around rm900, u can get 22" from other brands such as dell or acer alrdy.

ur specs should be fine with the native reso, I ve the same specs as urs, i ve tried that on CNC3 and COH on 1680*1050 with the same details on 1280*1024, the fps at most only a few lesser compare to 1280*1024, no worries
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i loled reading your post. 20" at 1680x1050 is perfectly clear, and those claims of font being too small is just so funny!!! rclxms.gif As a matter of fact, that is the way it should be, 30" at 2560x1600, 24" at 1920x1200, 20" at 1680x1050, 19" at 1440x900 - And those 4 resolutions at their respective size has the same font size. 22" at the same resolution of 20" is just pure ugly, blurry and unsharp. I looked at the 22" dell at fair yesterday and i almost puke of the quality, viewing angle is terrible! I shifted to the right a little and the big color change is so obvious! It is nothing but a value product, nothing to be excited at all about the quality of the unit. At the end of the day, if it is not about the excellent dell warranty, dell 22" is just a big screen low quality product at a cheap price. it is popular not because of the quality, but because of being the cheapest 22" money can buy. And that's the FACT!
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QUOTE(kunamiya @ Aug 5 2007, 09:16 PM)
I saw one of the product name "MATROX"
they connected 3 LCD on 1 VGA output and the game play called surround game play

Woot . what i can say is excellent

user posted image

user posted image

but the product is hard to find so .. i am wondering can i connect 2 lcd on my 8800gtx Dvi output so i can play like this
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Walaueh. These are running 3 LCD at once.
If running on only 2 LCD, probably the above device is not required.


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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Aug 5 2007, 09:37 PM)
i loled reading your post. 20" at 1680x1050 is perfectly clear, and those claims of font being too small is just so funny!!!  rclxms.gif  As a matter of fact, that is the way it should be, 30" at 2560x1600, 24" at 1920x1200, 20" at 1680x1050, 19" at 1440x900 - And those 4 resolutions at their respective size has the same font size. 22" at the same resolution of 20" is just pure ugly, blurry and unsharp. I looked at the 22" dell at fair yesterday and i almost puke of the quality, viewing angle is terrible! I shifted to the right a little and the big color change is so obvious! It is nothing but a value product, nothing to be excited at all about the quality of the unit. At the end of the day, if it is not about the excellent dell warranty, dell 22" is just a big screen low quality product at a cheap price. it is popular not because of the quality, but because of being the cheapest 22" money can buy. And that's the FACT!
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To me, 226BW looks great.

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post Aug 5 2007, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Aug 5 2007, 09:37 PM)
i loled reading your post. 20" at 1680x1050 is perfectly clear, and those claims of font being too small is just so funny!!!  rclxms.gif  As a matter of fact, that is the way it should be, 30" at 2560x1600, 24" at 1920x1200, 20" at 1680x1050, 19" at 1440x900 - And those 4 resolutions at their respective size has the same font size. 22" at the same resolution of 20" is just pure ugly, blurry and unsharp. I looked at the 22" dell at fair yesterday and i almost puke of the quality, viewing angle is terrible! I shifted to the right a little and the big color change is so obvious! It is nothing but a value product, nothing to be excited at all about the quality of the unit. At the end of the day, if it is not about the excellent dell warranty, dell 22" is just a big screen low quality product at a cheap price. it is popular not because of the quality, but because of being the cheapest 22" money can buy. And that's the FACT!
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I loled reading at your post too. Everyone's know that 22" is not the best quality LCD. The way you bashed 22" is like the the world's going to end. rolleyes.gif

I'm using E228WFP and i've compare 22" and 20" side-by-side. Of course, the viewing angle of 22" sucks and the color is not as great as 20", but its not pure ugly, blurry and unsharp as claim by you. About the 22" LCD you viewed at PC fair, is the 22" plugged using VGA or DVI cable?
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QUOTE(Sony Trinitron @ Aug 5 2007, 09:37 PM)
i loled reading your post. 20" at 1680x1050 is perfectly clear, and those claims of font being too small is just so funny!!!  rclxms.gif  As a matter of fact, that is the way it should be, 30" at 2560x1600, 24" at 1920x1200, 20" at 1680x1050, 19" at 1440x900 - And those 4 resolutions at their respective size has the same font size. 22" at the same resolution of 20" is just pure ugly, blurry and unsharp. I looked at the 22" dell at fair yesterday and i almost puke of the quality, viewing angle is terrible! I shifted to the right a little and the big color change is so obvious! It is nothing but a value product, nothing to be excited at all about the quality of the unit. At the end of the day, if it is not about the excellent dell warranty, dell 22" is just a big screen low quality product at a cheap price. it is popular not because of the quality, but because of being the cheapest 22" money can buy. And that's the FACT!
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bro... if the 20" u mentioned is 2007wfp... then no need to wait u tell, i also can tell that 2007 is better than 228wfp sweat.gif
very few 20" is Non-TN panel, but samsung 206BW is definitely not one of them, so for the same TN panel, why not choose 226BWwhich is just rm2xx more?

don't compare TN panel with other higher end panels, and the font size are judged by the dpi, which in turn are affected by pixel size. So the font on a 20" with native reso is even smaller than 17" 4:3.

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i lol at some of the post above...

if you want to compare a 22" and 20", compare the text quality etc...

don't even bother to compare viewing angle, color reproduction...

it has nothing to do whether it is 22" or 20" at 1680x1050...

it's the panel type that makes the difference....

you can have a 22" S-PVA model that pwn a 20" TN panel...
or a 20" S-PVA model that pwn a 24" TN panel
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 5 2007, 03:00 PM)
What make u say that? Anyway the samsung 20" 206BW has 3000:1 contrast ratio, 2ms which other cheaper brand dont hav or u just dont care about gaming image quality etc.
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3000 : 1???
lol..its dynamic contrast ratio...not even static
its all marketing gimmick...
normal people easily fooled by numbers tongue.gif

QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Aug 5 2007, 10:47 PM)
i lol at some of the post above...

if you want to compare a 22" and 20", compare the text quality etc...

don't even bother to compare viewing angle, color reproduction...

it has nothing to do whether it is  22" or 20" at 1680x1050...

it's the panel type that makes the difference....

you can have a 22" S-PVA model that pwn a 20" TN panel...
or a 20" S-PVA model that pwn a 24" TN panel
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TN panel will always be inferior compared to other panel whistling.gif whistling.gif


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