ILLEGEAR ONYX is Illegear's latest premium gaming laptop with a bezel-less 15.6” INFINIVISION display, geared with 8th gen. i7/i5 processors and GTX1060/1050Ti graphics in an ultra slim frame. ONYX is also equipped with the GENESWITCH mechanical keyboard for a full gaming experience everywhere you go..



UPDATES:

1. (06/05/18) Initial Version.
2. (08/05/18) "Upgrades and Updates" section added.
3. (08/05/18) Onyx comparison with S5X/Clevo P950 and Chinese MechRevo Z2 review video link added under "Reviews and News".
4. (08/05/18) New section "Videos on the Onyx" added.
5. (09/05/18) ChatterFix added under edited section "Drivers / BIOS / Other Useful Software".
6. (11/05/18) Added my website's (Technomadica) Full Text Review on the Onyx under "Review and News".

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Previous discussion:
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Upgrade Options
* New BIOS/EC - ETA 2-3rd week of May
* New CC (White RGB) - ETA "soon"
* 144Hz IPS Display (AUO) - ETA June-July
* Extended 60Wh battery - ETA June-July
* Membrane (quieter) Keyboard - Maybe, ETA unknown

Videos On the Onyx


Drivers / BIOS / Other Useful Software


Illegear Users After Sales Feedback


Top Secret Keys


Reviews & News


ONYX pictures


This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 11 2018, 05:55 PM

ILLEGEAR ONYX OWNERS LIST:

*Please contact the TS if you want to get your name added here*

1. Eiraku (8750H + 1060)
2. jrlogger (8750H + 1060)
3. nyunyu (8750H + 1060)
4. kyLL (8750H + 1060)
5. gunzerdude (8750H + 1050Ti)
6. jianningteoh (8750H + 1060)
7. liam111 (8750H + 1060)
8. azwn (not sure)
9.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Jun 5 2018, 02:07 AM

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Hey ho folks welcome to the new home of the Illegear Onyx here in LYN. Hopefully we can have a nice, lively discussion on our little pocket rockets here, and let's keep the drama to a minimum.

*waves*

Hello all! Plan to get mine in the coming weeks :-))

ordered mine last week.. not playing games much but like the design & spec.

Still waiting for my unit, hopefully can arrive today or tomorrow as my editing work has been on hiatus for nearly a week

In the meantime while trawling the web for information, I found a video review, but in Chinese language tho.

Dropping the link here in case anyone is interested

Mechrevo Z2 review

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: May 7 2018, 11:59 AM

Hello from Z5 owner

How does this Onyx compare with the S5X?

* Onyx is slightly thicker, but A LOT more robust despite having a plastic bottom (the S5X is full metal but the lid is rather disturbingly flexible). Other dimensions are smaller on the Onyx's side though.

* Onyx comes with 1060 maximum and Coffee Lake procs. S5X only ships with Kaby Lake BUT offers up to a 1070Max-Q (about 15-20% more performance from the 1060).

* Onyx comes with a mechanical, per-key RGB keyboard (that is very nice to type on, but rather clicky). S5X comes with your typical laptop keyboard (read: not clicky) and only had per-sector RGB lighting.

* Onyx is easier to upgrade/maintain (the S5X needs you to take the keyboard off to access some screws underneath before you can get to the insides. Onyx just needs you to get rid of the bottom screws and you're done).

* Onyx (as per specced now with its 43Wh battery) has worse battery life then the S5X (4 vs 5++ hours). A bigger 60Wh battery is in the works for the Onyx, but you're gonna have to sacrifice your 2.5 drive slot.

* Onyx has minimal screen bezels. The S5X has thick ones.

* S5X has a 120hz TN option. Onyx will have (ETA: June-July) a 144hz IPS option.

* Onyx has 2x M2 NVMe. S5X only has 1 (but both + the 2.5 drive bay).

* Onyx has a USB 2.0 (only) internal card reader (30mb/s R/W max). S5X has a 3.0 one (R\W up to about 100+mb/s).

So yeah, off the top of my head.

Anyway, just spent the entire night modding Fallout 4 (until like 4-5am?) and hasn't stopped playing since. Holy this game is cursed - it's like my 3rd run already and I'm still hooked bad.

The 1060 + 8750H on my Onyx is handling the famously buggy thing with aplomb though.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 8 2018, 10:19 PM

S5X (Clevo P950HP6/P950HS) actually use plastic chassis with aluminum spray paint (A and C panels). That is why it has more flex compared to the ONYX.

This post has been edited by Prince J: May 7 2018, 02:22 PM

Thanks for the quick comparison. Informative.

Currently debating the need for space (2.5" HDD) or the need for staying power (bigger battery).

Ah, I think you mentioned that before. Might have slipped my mind. Apologies.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 7 2018, 03:43 PM

Anyone know how to have white colour as keyboard backlight? Or is it not possible 😅

Another customer also requested this, a new command center with white color single backlit will be released soon.

No worries

waiting for minee...

Hey, thanks for the add. Still haven't got my hands on the laptop though. 2 weeks feels like a lifetime.

This post has been edited by nyunyu: May 8 2018, 08:37 AM

No problem man. Some folks say waiting is the best part lol.

The longer you wait, the higher the excitement when you finally got it

how's the battery life of onyx?

4 hours tops with the current small battery. Probably around 5-6 hours with the upcoming big battery upgrade (which, unfortunately takes your HDD/2.5 inch slot).

Normal office usage or ???

Just took delivery of the laptop, getting used to the whole thing, but I discovered something which I really hope is a mistake on my side.

The SD card reader, I thought I was mistaken when I saw the driver install read 'USB 2.0', but turns it it really is running at USB 2.0 speed.

Can someone please verify that this is actually the case and there's no usb 3.0 version driver for it?

Normal office use, maybe only a little WIFI surfing.

Unfortunately, it ONLY runs at 2.0 speeds AFAIK. Haven't seen any 3.0 drivers either, so yeah, like the Gen 1 and Gen 2 MSI GS63, we have a slow ass internal card reader.

I think I clearly stated that edi on the Overall Impressions I posted on the NBR GK5CN thread, but not sure if I mentioned it here in LYN yet - but yeah it's gonna be put in under "cons" in my review for sure.

Oh and I've updated the S5X vs Onyx thing to reflect this.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 8 2018, 10:17 PM

Christ, I must have missed that overview or something.

Like, come on man, it's 2018, there's simply no excuse for a laptop to include a 2.0 reader, much less a gaming class one with a feature set that's marketed towards content creators as well.

Well, I can't answer for Illegear/TongFang, but that was EXACTLY what I told them (Illegear) when I tested the initial protos myself.

But at the same time I also knew not many internal changes could be done already between that point and full scale production (it was too close a time frame). Also, as all the other "alternatives" had glaring flaws of their own (some of which is worse for me in comparison), so I just decided to live with it and got myself one of those tiny Kingston 3.0 readers, relegating the internal reader to serve "emergency" duties only.

Anyway, on another point, XMG has posted Neo 15 disassembly videos already (and beat me to the punch), so I'm gonna add those to the FP, under "Videos" (as our units have zero differences in that aspect as far as I could see).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 9 2018, 02:03 PM

Yep, I actually have one of those Kingston readers too, sigh, guess I'll have to deal with this for the time being.


My observations so far, a few quirks I feel i should point out, the USB 3.0 ports are only on the right side, so for those working portable storage most of the time would definitely be annoyed. That USB C port on the back..... not sure what sort of audience it's geared for, because having storage/hdds attached at the back where all the heat is blowing out is definitely a bad idea.

Also the keyboard has a weird learning curve to it, specifically, the key's actuation point is actually before the 'click' itself, with just a light press you'd be able to trigger the keys already, and it's causing me to type additional characters sometimes because I rest my fingers on the keys while I'm typing, I'm still able to overcome this by adjusting my typing style.

Finally I'm having intermittent issues where the laptop will slowly lock up, browser refuses to load pages, then the whole windows interface slowly stops responding until the mouse is the only thing you can move around (clicking on any buttons doesn't give a response). At this point CTRL-SHIFT-DEL and CTRL-ALT-DEL combinations all don't work anymore, and I'm pretty much left with waiting until the laptop finally BSODs with a CRITICAL_PROCESS _DIED message or force resetting the system.

Eiraku did you or maybe anyone else encounter such issues on your onyx?

For the keyboard actuation, it's probably just the nature of the beast (short throw mech keyboard), but I've installed Chatterfix (I'll put a link to in under "Drivers/BIOS/Other Useful Software" later) to deal with errant keystrokes. TBH though, now that I've gotten used to the KBB, there's considerably less errors in my typing, and most of the errors I do get is from lazily typing one-handed while lying down (and touching other keys accidentally in the process).

As for port placement, while I do have a bone to pick with the left-right choices, having ports at the back is actually a boon for me, at least for the A/V and power. Though like you, I would have preferred the Type-C to be at the side (the left one seems pretty bare TBH), but with your typical length cable IMO you can clear the vents pretty easily.

Finally, the lock-ups is the one I'm rather curious about as I'm getting no such thing at all. Through benchmarks, games, stress tests - zero lock-up or BSODs. It sounds like a memory error though TBH, you might wanna get that checked.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 9 2018, 03:09 PM

Faced these freezing/BSODs when I was testing out undervolts, you may
Want to decrease your UV if you are undervolting. Otherwise you can try running a memtest?

Yeah, hence "curious". I'm even UVed and I haven't gone through any of those things. So my first thought (if he hasn't UVed) is understandably the RAM.

gunzerdude Try downloading Memtest86 and running it if possible. You're gonna need a free USB stick to install and boot it from though.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 9 2018, 06:59 PM

Has anyone calibrated the Onyx screen and have Adobe RGB and SRGB scores available?

This post has been edited by Snappy_Darko: May 9 2018, 07:13 PM

Nope, haven't gone into UV or any of the sort yet, is just regular usage where I'm multitasking with chrome open, couple tabs, downloading stuff, configuring my programs etc. Besides the characteristics that I mentioned, I can't reproduce this scenario at will, plus it plays games just fine (an hour of Witcher 3 maxed out, although boy does the metal part beside the fan/power buttons get hot).

I'm wondering if the issue comes down to errant drivers for the GPU, from what I've been searching online so far that describes the dGPU switching on and off unnecessarily and causing the computer to eventually lockup. (Google 'Optimus stutter critical process died')

Sure I'll run a memtest, in the meantime here's my configuration:

i7-8750H
1050ti
8gb Ram
480gb nvme ssd
Kryonaut thermal paste

Hmm, larger battery cancelled?

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbe8d5m-ASQ...525864586189719

This post has been edited by Snappy_Darko: May 9 2018, 07:33 PM


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Bad news for folks looking for an extended runtime for sure, if true.

However, until Illegear announces the same, we're still not sure if this applies to just XMG or to the entire GK5CN release though. We'll need to wait until somebody confirms this.

As for calibration, my screen was calibrated from the factory, or you can use the ICC files provided from NBC's Aero 15/15x v7 review for a rough calibration because the panel is the same exact one.

Hence, the sRGB figures should also be around the same: around 90% sRGB and 59% aRGB (source: https://goo.gl/K5MAUA).

gunzerdude I've heard of Optimus driver problems causing stutters before, but never crashes. Hence why I didn't suggest you look at the drivers.

And I went through the same initial configuration steps as you, though the difference here is I didn't use Chrome (I'm more a Waterfox kind of guy). So, might be a long shot but it might be... Chrome?

Well, as for the drivers you're gonna need to wait for the new BIOS to be able to upgrade the Nvidia drivers anyway, the current one has the Nvidia driver IDs a bit messed up so you're gonna have to INF edit to install any newer drivers in the meanwhile.

Oh, and yeah my power metal strip gets hot too, though my IR thermometer tells me it's actually only reaching 50c, as per my previous measurements.

If 50c feels like that, I wonder how the 60-70c that some other laptops get to feels like.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 9 2018, 11:31 PM

Morning to a new age!

Obvious celebration aside, did 4 passes of memtest without issues, the laptop doesnt seem to have trouble under load, rather just with normal usage situations.

Although, as I'm testing, I've turned off PCIE link state power management for the power profiles and I haven't experienced any crashes in one whole night of using the laptop actively. (Fingers crossed)


I seriously hope the battery capacity cancellation is just on XMG's side tho, would be a waste to just leave that 2.5 gap underutilized.

This post has been edited by gunzerdude: May 10 2018, 09:02 AM

I still can't believe it but yeah, new age indeed!

Hmm, at least it's NOT the memory, and we can cross that out. Next on, drivers, as you said, or Chrome.

And yeah, it feels a bit of a waste, even though I have a 2TB SSHD in there so the extended cell isn't entirely a priority for me ATM. Still, hopefully Illegear pulls through even if it needs to be delayed or something.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 10 2018, 05:31 PM

Hi guys, large battery option will still be available but only for certain ONYX configurations.

I will confirm the details after the election holidays, currently stuck at my hometown with limited internet access.

This post has been edited by Prince J: May 10 2018, 07:23 PM

Thanks for the confirmation Prince J, it's very much appreciated!

And do enjoy your election holidays. After the rush that surrounded the April launches, you guys deserve the rest.

I sense some bias against chrome here

Great that Prince is verifying the upgrade option, but how come only for selected configs, when they share the same internal layout?

Oh and i just remembered, during my conversation, I asked Azim about the 144hz screen, he said the color reproduction is the same as the current panel, so no reason for me to upgrade it seems.

This isn't your vid Eiraku?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-h6bcAlEqU&t=295s

This post has been edited by Snappy_Darko: May 11 2018, 03:09 AM

Unfortunately no lol. I'm not confident enough to appear personally on stage like that.

If I ever have a video out, it'll just be my voice and my gloved hands lol, but FO4 (and work) is stalling that a bit lol. My proper long ass text review is practically finished though, and I just need to insert some pics into it.

Nice to finally have somebody talking about the Onyx though, even if his CB scores are pretty low as I'm getting consistent 1000++CB scores. But I'll just chalk that up to configuration differences.

gunzerdude No no, no bias against Chrome at all TBH. It's just that I don't use it and I'm not having any issues. So yeah.

And as for the 144hz screen, while GAMUT is gonna be (about) the same, colours should render better on the new screen as it's a proper IPS panel. The Onyx screen is actually a VA - which isn't bad either but isn't IPS.

For me, I'm not particularly colour sensitive, don't need the extra hertz and I don't really find my 60hz panel to be too bad (VA or otherwise)... so I'm not gonna participate in the panel lottery yet again just for modest colour (and refresh rate) improvements.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 11 2018, 05:12 AM

But you do plan on making a vid review, right? I imagine yours to be scripted much better than that one! And while i'm on the subject (and pardon my ignorance), but is this not a Malaysian site - how come everyone speaks English like you're all native Englanders (better actually)!! I can only guess that the education system there is amazing :-)

This post has been edited by Snappy_Darko: May 11 2018, 04:28 AM

Nah, the Edu system is pretty normal. it's just that a lot of the folks who visit this here parts (Lowyat.Net) are usually able to speak okay English... most of the time anyway.

In general though, being former subjects of the Crown, we (Malaysians) are pretty decent when it come to English... but outside the urban areas, it's not as rosy - but there will be people who can cobble up basic conversation nonetheless.

English is, after all, our second official language (as funny as that may sound lol).

As for my vid review, expect it to take a while as I figure out how to actually record it lol (keep in mind that the previous Keyboard Sound Test thing was my first tech-related video recording EVER lol).

But the text one should be ready as soon as I find extra time in between saving the Commonwealth from the horrors of the Institute (FO4 reference lol).

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 11 2018, 05:43 PM

Alright, stole some time from FO4 to finish the Full Text Review, so yeah it's up: https://goo.gl/u71dSt

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 11 2018, 05:44 PM

ONYX Review by Primeval Media



This post has been edited by Prince J: May 11 2018, 06:58 PM

I had no idea it was the second official language. In fact I know next to nothing about Malaysia, but since I've been on here i've being paying more attention to the latest election news!
Right, time to tuck into that review of yours :-)

Thanks, will post that onto the FP later.

But yeah, I still wonder why the guy's getting sub-1k CB scores. Slower SSD? Non-Dual Channel RAM?

And the AMA thread got bumped off Reddit for some reason lol. Oh well, at least I've opened *some* eyes to the existence of the GK5CN, should be enough that less people would mistake it for a Clevo again.

And anybody interested can just Google for it, now that there's enough non-Chinese information on it floating in the Interwebs already.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 12 2018, 05:50 AM

the fans. oh my the fans.. i had some initiall stuttering with the mouse in the beginning, but im assuming it was due to the updates in the background.

so far after a day it seems to be good for the work im doing.

screen seems abit warm to me. is there anyway to change that?

and the fanns.. oh have i mentioned the fans? its very very loud...

Only the BIOS/EC update fixes them "loud" fans, unfortunately - which IMHO is the "weird curves" I was talking about in my review. It still gets pretty loud post update, but only when it's "supposed" to.

You can try tweaking the fan curves in Onyx Control Center. Switch to "manual" under the fan settings and pull down the fan speeds (especially for the top end, but be reasonable).

As for the screen, did you have calibration selected at purchase? If so, its probably normal for it to look warm, but you can also try the Calibration Profile for the Aero 15/15X from NBC as those also use the same screen (look for the "X-Rite i1Pro 2" box under "brightness distribution" in those review, there's a link marked ICC file).

Where to mess around with all this ICC stuff? Just type "Color Management" into your start menu.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 12 2018, 02:50 PM

When comparing the fan noise in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-h6bcAlEqU&t=295s to dave2d's fan noise recordings of all of his 8750h slim n lights, there does't seem to be too much in it. This seems like the biggest technical blip with this series. I'm seeing in all reviews that even at idle theres 'ambient' noise.
(i even considered drilling a few extra holes in the chassis lol)

This post has been edited by Snappy_Darko: May 12 2018, 05:33 PM

The updated EC/BIOS helps a lot, TBH. Especially due to the fact that you get a BIOS "switch" to tune between quieter + throttled running and loud + unthrottled performance. Heck, even tuned for performance the new EC is pretty quiet at idle.

Also, compared to the "silent" rivals (namely the GS65 and the Aero) the GK5CN (even on the current, outdated Oynx EC that I ran the review in) runs slightly cooler, so yeah it's pretty much a give and take situation. Plus don't forget due to the lower heat you can tune the manual fan curves for lower noise and STILL run cooler then the others (on the shipped EC anyway, after the update I don't really think you'll be needing the custom curves).

And no, don't drill holes. It's just the fan curves, the unit itself actually runs cooler then its rivals (as I've mentioned before) so it's pretty pointless to drill holes.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 12 2018, 06:00 PM

Does it run at it's quietest when streaming or playing movies? I'm not clear on the notion of light useage - whether streaming/playing films counts as light.

Fans don't seem to be running as I'm watching videos (on Potplayer) on the internal panel (aka, accelerated by the IGPU). At most, maybe JUST the CPU fan is running, but barely (you don't really hear it unless you put your ear next to the keyboard).

File played is a 720p HEVC2 clip though, so load is pretty light (especially with CFL-H as it has internal HEVC decode acceleration), but yeah, I guess that answers your question. Just don't stream 4k though it and expect it to run similarly quiet though.

But damn, now that I'm having a video played on this thing, the VA panel is actually not bad at all TBH, despite my reservations about the colour being inferior to the 144hz panel. Guess a good sample of the Chi Mei is pretty decent indeed.

BTW, the moment you plug in an external display, expect the GPU fan to start running as well as all external video is routed through the DGPU. Not that this is exclusive to the Onyx / GK5CN either - my Clevo P950 used to do the exact same thing.

Sure it's bad for battery life but hey, at least we get the opportunity to use external G-Sync.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 13 2018, 12:36 AM

Oh cool. Thanks for testing that. Itching to order mine, but will hold out until Illegear come back with further info on the battery.

Receive whatsapp message just now notify me that my onyx will be delayed because GTX 1060 out of stock.
Stock will arrive around June. If I want it fast I can downgrade to GTX 1050ti but I choose to wait for GTX 1060.
Hope GTX1060 stock arrive soonest.

the bios/EC drivers not released yet right?

Not the official ones from Illegear at least... its still in the middle of being customised/adjusted alongside the new Command Center.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 14 2018, 03:28 AM

Hmm. Hope that comes soon.

Oh any tips on skinning the laptop? Wanna get it a little more stealthy.

Well, get good 3M / Orcal vinyl if you're doing it yourself. For me I don't have that option as 3M / Orcal doesn't have translucent CF vinyl.

Otherwise yeah, just work slowly with a squeegee/credit card during aplication to ensure even-ness. Oh and a hair drier on low helps too.

BTW, quick note. Translucent anything skins are really a PITA to apply due to the bubbles. Sure screen protectors and the like are enough of a pain to apply but heck, try 15 inches diagonal's worth of metal. But yeah, my own choice of material so my own fault, tough translucent CF is really cool as far as skins go really (it protects and feels awesome and yet you can still see the logo underneath).

Normal opaque skins should be a cinch to apply in comparison, as you only really need to worry about even-ness.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 14 2018, 01:06 PM

thanks for the tips. yea. translucent wont be my thing. just wanna skin it so its not so obvious and fingerprinty.

Sorry, back to the fans again... I can see that there's mesh underneath and also vents around the rear. Where doe the hot air come out? Thinking whether it'll be content running quietly on my lap or in bed on top of soft sheets (as opposed to on a flat surface.. (soz for nit-picky questions )

the hot air mostly gets pushed out the back vents. the WASD keys are exceptionally cool.. er. dont know about the bottom as ive always got it on my desk atm. will test it later.

btw.. ive gotten 4 BSOD's while watching a movie on VLC while on battery power... this is extremely disturbing..

Hmm, I've yet to even get one TBH. Games crashes during overclocking yes, but zero BSODs. You might want to check with Illegear about the BSODs.

I don't use VLC though (more a PotPlayer/MPCBE guy).

That said, my WiFi did go missing for a short while before reappearing, and that's about the most trouble I've gotten with my Onyx (yeah, it was a PITA nonetheless).

Snappy_Darko Air intakes are at the bottom and it exhausts to the side and back. You might not want to put it on a bed because that might block the intakes TBH.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 15 2018, 08:04 AM

what BSOD error did you get? Sometimes I will have BSODs too, most of the time different errors and it won't restart at the BSOD screen, have to restart self.

I also experienced it even after turning off ThrottleStop, I am starting to think the BSODs are not related to undervolting.

Never touched the bios yet. No time to see what is the bsod. Just get the error, your computer had an error. Needs to restart. Boop. Then resets. ):

BSOD can be caused by either software or hardware. We usually test RAM first by using memtest and if the BSOD persists, we will test with another OS. If your machine still gets BSOD after replacing the good RAM and reinstall OS, then it might be due to hardware.

You may send us the BSOD codes, and we will assist.

is there any way to check the BSOD codes after it flashes on the screen?

btw, anyone know where i can get these 90 degree angle usb cables?
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/supe...0205525840.html

I'm not getting any even WITH TS and UV. Hmmm.

Not doubting any of you guys' experiences though. Just wondering about combination of things leading to the BSODs.

It might be the Nvidia drivers (and Optimus) though, considering the Onyx is shipped with the older 388 drivers and you need to jump through hoops of fire to update those.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 15 2018, 12:57 PM

Come to think of it, the BSODs occurred after updating the bios/installing the new NVIDIA drivers. Maybe I can try rolling back to old drivers... Or wait for the new bios.

Hmmm, I'm beginning to wonder what's taking the BIOS so long to be customised TBH. I do hope that the delaying issues get ironed out properly though.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 16 2018, 12:19 AM

hi guys. seeing another issue here.. hope someone has a fix. when i close my laptop without shutting down/putting to sleep, the battery drains away.

is this normal behaviour?

Errr, close your laptop how? Like closing the lid? That's supposed to put it to sleep automatically unless you've changed the lid down behaviour.

If you HAVE changed it to "do nothing" when the lid is down, then yeah the battery drain is normal behaviour as your laptop is STILL running as usual even when you close your lid.

But if you haven't that just means it's draining while sleeping which is still pretty normal unless it's a ridiculous amount of drain.

Only hibernation = quick resume without drain. Sleep still drains a small amount of battery power - small being like 5-10% an hour or something like that.

That is, unless I'm mistaken about your situation here, because I'm still not entirely clear about "closing without shutting down/putting to sleep".

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 16 2018, 11:55 AM

didnt mess with the power settings. then opened it up after i put up that post.

then i changed it to "shutdown after 30m on battery"

thennnn i closed it and put it into my bag.

1 hour later i reach office and open my bag. woah. my pc fans are running. i had furmark open. but its so confusing man. lol

this kinda making me miss my mac.

Last year I bought a my first desktop PC after being a Mac user since 2009. For content creation apple just weren't offering value for money anymore, but i soon discovered that Windows is so much more unstable out of the box than Mac OS. You have to figure more out loads more yourself and at first I was really quite miffed at the difference (I had a BSOD after a few weeks of using it and lost everything)...but a year on i've ironed out the creases, done a little overclocking even, and now i'd never consider go back to apple for computing (though am curious about their new CPU). The growing pains of the Mac-Win transitions are real, but in my experience they were totally worth it. Soldier on!

By windows default closing the lid should sleep your laptop in battery mode, i guess it wasn't set correctly. I also suggest to completely shutdown the laptop before putting into backpack.

Yeahhhhhh Windows isn't as convenient as Macs are unless you set them up right. Mine doesn't go to sleep when I put the lid down because I'm used to using them like that (I sleep/shut down manually).

Even IF it sleeps, there are always programs that can pull it out of sleep sometimes, and this happens on any Windows notebook.

Hell, if you set it up in a certain way, you can wake your computer up from being shut down completely through a network connection lol.

Snappy_Darko Yeah convenience wise, Macs still have the upper hand unfortunately. Windows comes out of the box all wrong for human consumption lol (hence me having to go through the same bloody setup ritual every time I get a Windows machine), though things have improved by leaps and bounds in Win 10 IMHO.

Except for the spying on you / telemetry part of course.

Prince J The keyboard key LEDs staying alive even when the screen is off with the lid down (not sleep, just screen off) is just weird though. Any way you can tell TF to fix that in upcoming updates?

This post has been edited by Eiraku: May 16 2018, 11:01 PM

Hi Eiraku,

The new command center will improve the keyboard backlit sync, it also increases the battery life significantly.

For the ONYX big battery pack, we will only offer in GTX1050Ti / 1050, the battery life is increased by 30% after upgrading.

Hey guys, back with some observations, seems like turning off the link state power management in the power profiles did the trick, laptop has been stable since may 9th without any crashes (fingers crossed).


On the other hand,due to the sub-optimal port placements, I've purchased a few additional accessories to make my life easier when editing on the go.

Right angle USB converters so that the cable doesn't stick directly out to my mouse hand



USB C hub and right angle converter for situations where i need to read SD cards and have multiple drives working.

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All can be found in lazada in case any of you are interested


Awesome news for the battery configuration, but I'm abit curious as to why the 1060 is not supported, power draw requirements?

Hmm, 1060 vs battery life..tough one.
The 1050ti is roughly equivalent to the rx580 4gb, right?

I believe it's 1060 + 2.5" drive vs. bigger battery (30% more? additional 1.5 hours?)

This is true

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the availability of the 2.5 drive bay not related to whether the laptop has a 1060 or 1050 in it?

Maybe it's just TongFang refusing to make a 1060 + extended battery bundle for some reason.

Hmmmmmm.

The drive space is needed for the bigger battery. Nothing to do with the GPU AFAIK. Which is all the more puzzling why the bigger battery cannot come with the 1060 but only the 1050.

An English review of the GTX1060 model, which may be of interest to prospective buyers:

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/laptop/11788...-vengeance-pro/