Recently Benelli Msia launched the TRK 502,

some reviews so far..

MCN doesn't have anything good to say...

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/first-r...trk-502-review/

youtube test rides







Just today Benelli Msia confirmed will bring in the Leoncino

http://www.bikesrepublic.com/featured/2017...-malaysia-soon/




This post has been edited by basilisk: Apr 29 2017, 12:14 AM

I have doubts

doubt on quality ??

Benelli - Is this brand good to own here? Reliability, spare parts, ease of service, after sales support, etc

this not sure.. hv to lurk a long time at owners group in FB, then will know the troubles...

wht im sure is for those who can taobao, sure can order parts n accessories..

Cager on Two wheels seem to have given it a pretty decent review though. Leoncino looks good!

This post has been edited by lowpro: Apr 28 2017, 08:45 PM

cager should compare it with the tracer 700 that he is currently owning


some feels that the price of trk in msia should be lower...

infos about benelli bike can be found at china bike forums like

http://www.qishi8.cn/forum-197-1.html

cager on two wheels uploaded a longer review on the TRK 502

For a 500cc tourer, TRK502 is the cheapest in the class of tourer I think (not withstanding being manufactured in China). RM32k+ u get the side panners as well. Not a bad deal.

Benelli, chances of getting a lemon is much higher maybe

the competitor is CB500X,

Trk502 if not mistaken has ABS as standard.

price is RM28888, +gst is ~RM30621

cb500x abs + gst is RM35391

only less than 5k difference.

Weight, TRK502 is 235kg wet, cb500x is 194kg wet full tank.








This post has been edited by basilisk: May 4 2017, 06:11 PM

Benelli have better specs. Right?

Not the kind of bike if you're pendek type of a person. 6' or higher recommended for those kind of bike.

I've riden Binelli 600 as a practice/ license test bike, tip toeing a bit but manageable. The gear sometimes still engaged while the meter says it's N. Really stable during emergency braking. Ye the chances of getting a lemon is quite high as I heard quite a few complaints especially the gearbox reliability but yea 3% defect rate is quite normal in this industry.

well, cosmetically? it has better specs

until it is proven that the features perform on par or better than the honda.

Trk502 has USD fork, twin radially mounted front calipers vs only one on the cb500x

handguards-wht do u call it?, gear indicator, jarum rpm meter, led light all round?

usb charger(i think), bigger windshield with bar for mounting phones etc,

2.5liter more petrol, better ekzos sound

these 2 bikes seat height are lower than the versys 650,

the trk is ~800mm-815, cb ~ 790-810? compare to versys 840mm

This post has been edited by basilisk: May 4 2017, 10:19 PM

for those who are new to motorbikes, not all inline twin cylinder sounds the same.

here are some example.



180 degree firing inline twin - eg er6n/6f, versys650, z650 etc




270 degree firing inline twin - mt07, some triumph bikes




360 degree firing inline twin - BMW F800r , benelli trk502, leoncino, bn302





This post has been edited by basilisk: May 8 2017, 04:30 PM

It depends on the bike configuration or structure to be exact. If 800m then it's the same as 600 TNT then it'll be manageable but need to tip toe. I've sat on Ducati Diavel and able to flat footed, now that's good height for me of 5'4" only. Even on my Vulcan S I need to opt for Reduced Reach package which brings the handle like 1 inch inward.

at least easier to get parts from TaoBao/aliexpres and sebangsa nya..

Kawasaki upgraded the ER6N to Z650 to compete with MT07.

In Malaysia, will the new Z650 out sell / be more popular than the MT07?







a comparison between the new Z650 and ER6N by motor-journal france, with english subs



This post has been edited by basilisk: May 8 2017, 10:49 PM

I just ordered some Benelli stuff from a local taobao agent fr LYN, let's see how it goes

it will come down to price, which is more competitive.

quality wise should hv no problem, coming from kawa and yama.

this is first time order benelli stuff frm taobao?

over here is Msia, after gst price, not OTR

Z650 RM35609
MT07 RM36795

HLY even raise the price aft z650 announced, like they give a damn.

sure do ymh have a lot of supporters here. I think they dont even care

making ABS as an option for MT07.

z650 has ABS, slipper clutch, overall built and finishing seems better than the MT07 which

has alot of plastics covering the tank, etc.

Ya, agent said the items i ordered may take up to 2 months to arrive.

than up to you la which one u prefer...

so far have not seen z650 otr yet. maybe u can buy one and review..

TRK502 has fab looks for the asking price.

Massive fuel tank means this bike makes for an awesome commuter.

I have always thought Benelli parallel twins are the best sounding of all. It screams almost like an inline 4, and does not sound hollow and lumpy like other parallel twins.

Putting out 47 horses from 500cc is competitive.

UNFORTUNATELY....

... I have doubts about those 47 ponies when matched to the bike's 210kg dry weight. Add 20 litres of fuel, 3 litres of engine oil plus 2 litres of coolant, you're easily looking at 230+kg.

Add in the weight of side boxes, top box plus luggage... yeah... I think that engine will struggle if you expect superior squirt-and-go acceleration to match the Multistrada-esque looks.

NONETHELESS...

... it would still make a very decent commuter bike if you need to travel 60km every day to and from work.

The Benelli Leoncino on the other hand might be a better application of that 500cc parallel twin.

A hell lot less weight would definitely let those 47 horses shine.

That said though.... I just don't understand why the cinapeks refuse to use the 899 triple.

Or why Benelli Malaysia refuses to bring in the TNT600 GT tourer with the fukking awesome, cross country capable 27-litre fuel tank, and adequate 86 horses to shift its 240kg all-up weight over long distances.

It's a far better proposition than the TRK502.

using sea freight ? big stuff u buying

but sea takes bout one month - west msia/KL

for my preference i will go for MT07,

just ranting here, share some infos, and to create discussion

in Msia, unless u r buying BMW, Ducati, it is impossible to test a bike...

they won't be able to keep the price down....

speaking of triple, the other day heard a mt09 pass by and thought it sounded like a car, the exhaust note


there is a difference between 4inline and triple sound. most recorded youtube vid can't tell the difference,

but these vids of dyno session by scorpion exhaust shows it clearly.

check out the header sound of the new z900 with standard exhaust.






compare it with a triple.

Small items ony, brake lever and mirrors, but the seller's note mentions long process lead time (dunno why).

I'll go with the MT07 too. Caught my eye when i went bike shopping few months ago, but she'll have to wait; still in the process of getting used to riding, plus still on L.

Read a few reviews comparing the MT07 against Z650, SV650 and Duke 690. Most said all were good bikes, with the MT07 being slightly favoured mostly.

As for the one-up category MT09, it seems that Yamaha has slapped on an engine that outdoes the body, making it too easy to accidentally pop a wheelie. I've not ridden one but i think I'll give that a miss for now. The MT10 also pretty damn sweet, but at RM115....?! Think not

Fiddled around both Z650 and MT07 last month at GT Max Shah Alam. I'll go for Z650. Personal preferences. Better sitting position than MT07.

You can select the sissy mode on the handlebar to cut power and let the traction control prevent you from doing anything stupid with the throttle.

I almost bought this bike.... until I found out it has a puny 14-litre tank to feed the thirsty 850cc engine. That was a deal breaker for me coz I needed to do some serious commuting with the bike (my youthful weekend hero ratah korner antics are long behind me).

look wise,i choose MT07.

z650 looks like it has been over compressed.

MT07 & Z650 are equally good. Price different - not that significant.

All falls upon ones liking and personal preferences.

I'm waiting for the 2017 mt09. Don't when will launch here.

On the topic of MT07, i understand the local models don't come equipped with ABS, ....is the ABS really gonna make a big difference? Some researchers in Australia think that ABS makes a 30 percent difference to your chances of an accident on a motorcycle.

Are you really going to go for it? May I ask why naked/standard? A lot of people go for naked/standard nowadays instead of sportsbike. I do not understand. Can you explain. Is it the riding position? If it is because of riding position why not cruiser then?

i will choose the CB500X anyday....

Just drooling Not really into big bike anymore. Old time sake. hahaha

But, if the 'itchiness' grows... I'll just get one Z650. I like this one because the riding position. A bit upright. I'm not into fast / speedy ride anymore. Not that young anymore . Leisure weekend ride perhaps. No more scraping kneecap

As for cruiser... IF Honda bring in Rebel 500... guarantee I'll be the first customer to buy it. Hnnnnngggh

mt09 ckd for msia doesnt come with TC , ABS also no.

actually, a faired bike is still favoured here in msia, also inline4 enjins, that is still the majority of mat motor mentality.

the naza blade 650, used to come in naked and faired. Naza stopped selling the naked version few years ago, permintaan kurang they said.

cruiser position is different, look at the vulcan S. the seat is very low, and your legs/ feet are in forward kangkang position. i personally don't prefer to ride like that

that mt09 jerky/snappy throttle ymh hav already updated the mapping,

latest 2017 version they improve the suspension as well.

the mt10 @ ah hong motor sentul, i heard it is just grey import from them,

not official CBU frm HLYM. HLYM never announce any CBU for mt10.


well if the non abs mt07 is rm1-2k cheaper than z650, then i don't mind.

now no abs but more expensive, in EU they are priced the same, some country its either z650 or mt07 abit more

expensive, but both with ABS.

HLY memang cheapskate...

I want The 300.

Rebel 300 too

But I'll go for Rebel 500 without any second thoughts.

No, folks going for naked/standard bikes is *NOT* a new phenomenon.

Naked bikes have always had a good following. Of course, the term 'naked' only became widespread in the last 10 or so years. 'Naked' is the original style of motorcycles (classic bikes are all 'naked' bikes until folks started modifying them into cafe racers which evolved into fully faired sportsbikes).

Naked bikes in the form of UJMs were very popular since way back through models like the Kawasaki Zephyrs, the Honda CBs and the Suzuki GS bikes. Those who can't imagine what UJMs look like, all you have to do is imagine the old police bike without the front windshield - those were CB750-P, part of the Honda CB family of UJMs which culminated in the popular CB400 VTEC (loads in SG) and the CB1300.

Of course, fully faired sportsbikes eventually outshined everything else because this genre became the first in line to directly benefit from whatever technology that came out of racing.

That said, even back then there were already lots of people stripping fully faired sportsbikes into naked bikes, and these were known as 'streetfighters' that combined the punch of sportsbikes with the wide bars and upright position of UJMs. The 1990s saw loads of those early watercooled and cradle framed GSXR750/GSXR1100 being converted into stuntable streetfighters (the new Yamaha MTs are a modern interpretation of these classic hooligan wheelie/burnout bikes).

Meanwhile, over in the US 'naked' bikes were already popular in the guise of Harley XR flat trackers made for oval clay racetracks. Harley Sportsters are a direct descendant of these, and those are naked too.

Anyway... custom-made streetfighters eventually gave way to what people call 'naked' bikes today.

A cruiser's riding position is not like that of a naked bike. The former is made for cruising, with low footpegs that let you stretch out your legs for easy laid back riding. The latter's riding position allows for a more nimble bike that's more suited for urban traffic.

This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: May 11 2017, 06:47 PM

Some people also like the CRF250 Rally.
Lighter, and easier to manage.

i think er6n & z800 is most popular naked bike in my.

but dunno why they love such heavy bikes..

This post has been edited by ciwi1166: May 11 2017, 07:26 PM

naked bike position is the middle ground between cruiser and sport riding position.
nimble enough for spirited riding and relaxed enough for normal riding.

rebel 500 using cb500 engine. much puny
can make aeon loan and the price is competitive during its release.

Rebel 500 more than enough for me. Not into spirited riding anymore. Just casual stroll during the weekend. Relax & enjoy the scenery.

Then another alternative to consider is the Vulcan S650 which is a good bike for easy riding and pack more torgue than Rebel 500. Price wise is almost similar to the Rebel.

Is the Rebel 500 sold here? Hmmm, anyone test rode the Harley Davidson Street Rod yet? Just curious how it is vs the Triumph Street Cup

No new yet as to whether Boon Siew will be bringing it in or when it will be brought in. The rebel 500 is direct competition to the Vulcan S from Kawasaki.

BS have yet to bring in the cbr250

I understand. Malaysians don't like cruisers because they're to relaxed and laid back? Malaysians don't like to cruise and enjoy? How are these criterias bad?

Especially The ER6N. They're everywhere.

Best Explanation Yet

Rebel 500
Engine 471cc 45hp
190kg with 11L tank
Engine taken from CB500 series
Price : RM35k upward?

Vulcan S 650
Engine 649cc 56hp
220kg with 14l tank
Engine from Versys
Price : RM32k
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i think BS honda will have difficulty putting this rebel against the vulcan S.

vulcan CC higher, and the price after GST is already less than RM30K.

second hand vulcan can get at RM20k cash already.

unless one is a die hard fan of this bike's look....

i think this rebel design is really weird....

can u cruise in traffic jam?

apart from the naza blade 650,

the er6n was the first? affordable CKD middle weight bike in msia...

Some do like cruisers, especially short ppl. My fiancee is drooling over the Vulcan S right now. Heck, in the early 90s, almost EVERYBODY rode the XV535 cruiser to get their B licence.

Who says Msians don't like cruisers?

I think the Rebel looks pretty much like a Bolt in profile. Meaning a shorter looking bike from front wheel to back as compared to the longish looking Vulcan



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ymh bolt has the classic look,

honda rebel the "hump" is too high

people used to praise the ER6N for being very "torquey"

and now they call the mt07 master of torque,

MT07 torque starts to exceed 40lbft @ ~ 3k rpm.


dyno chart of ER6N



ER6F



XJ6



MT07



This post has been edited by basilisk: May 12 2017, 04:21 PM

versys 650, vstrom 650




Hyosung/naza blade 650




vs Duke 690, sv650






vs honda CBR650







z650 improved the midrange of ER6N at the expense of few top end horse power...



This post has been edited by basilisk: May 12 2017, 04:46 PM

whoever want to test the kawa z650..

Kawasaki Motors (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd (KMSB) will be organising a test ride roadshow as well as a service campaign for all Kawasaki enthusiasts and current owners. The special event will take place this Sunday (14 May 2017) at Bulatan Bazarena, Stadium Melawati Shah Alam from 10am to 6pm.

Fans, current owners and potential owners will all be given an opportunity to test ride these models to get a first-hand experience.

Event : Kawasaki Test Ride Roadshow – “Always Close to You”
Date : 14 May 2017, 10am to 6pm
Venue: Bulatan Bazarena, Stadium Melawati Shah Alam

Cycle World

Cycle World did a test between MT-07 & Z650. got suzus as well.

they let u ride at the stadium car park? ??

like practise jpj B lesen

i dunno.. never been to any of their event before.

maybe they just let u get the feel of it, not a full ride outside the compound.

Vulcan S too long. Test ride it before. But for truly long distance


Sadly no.

No rumours at all. As usual, BS too slow to bring in anything 'good'

I'll still go for Rebel 500 Lighter.


I do... Virago 535? Shaft driven

quote from bikes republic website...

" KMSB will be setting up a specially arranged course designed to allow riders to feel the agility, maneuverability, versatility and light-weight handling of all the new Kawasakis. "

new ducati monster 797 air cooled.

they lowest priced monster to date.....

I use my Vulcan as my daily ride to work in KL. No issues.... Even with the side boxes.

Agree, Vulcan S best for beginner bike.. specially for those who are Heavy Weight

how much?

air cooled - traffic jam time will overheat or not?

Yay.

Oh The Virago.

Why pricier than Vulcan? Where you get this?

not launch in msia yet, if ducati want more market share,

maybe it will be priced like the scrambler icon or abit more, over RM53K ...

virago 535 also air cooled mah, same as most harleys

This post has been edited by basilisk: May 15 2017, 03:34 PM

better than nothing...

short distance to test the ABS.....




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Same here.. with sideboxes XL1200C aircooled.. commuting in KL every day

just my opinion about the seat of mt07 vs z650,

for rider with short leg, i feel that the stock seat of mt07

will push you forward and make your crotch press against the curved-up

front section of the seat. especially when both your feet are down.

When both legs are down, the flare out seat of mt07 will kinda block

your thighs from moving backwards.





Z650

cycle world comparison

http://www.cycleworld.com/kawasaki-z650-vs...comparison-test



quote from the article...

" Fit and finish is admirable, though the Z650’s look never really caught the eye of our testers, who were drawn to the less-aggressive lines of the SV650 or more modern-looking FZ-07. Personal opinion, yes, but as a whole, that kind of sums up the Z650. It attempts to strike a middle ground between the straightforward and classic SV650 and sportier FZ-07. Only, in doing so, it fails to be better than either bike. The engine has more midrange grunt than Kawasaki twins of yesteryear thanks to the new throttle bodies, but past 4,500 rpm, it also generates enough vibration in the seat, handlebar, and footpegs that any amount of commuting seems laborious. Overall gearing feels short, and the bike produces the least power of the trio (59.9 hp at 7,960 rpm).

Our test riders covered the height gamut, but none could come to grips with the Z’s ergonomics. This is spoiled by a seat that feels even lower than it is (seat height is an admirable 30.6 inches), an overly narrow handlebar that feels high by comparison, and a tank that widens where your knees rest. A 41mm KYB fork and preload-adjustable shock have a smoother action than the suspension on the SV650 or FZ-07, though overall handling is heavier than the FZ and front-end feel is limited at corner entry. At 414 pounds (wet, with ABS), Kawasaki has done a good job of keeping the bike light, but it’s still no less than 10 pounds more than an FZ-07.
In a category where bikes are so closely matched, you can’t afford to give anything up. With its awkward ergos and extra vibration, the Z650 quickly fell behind the SV650 and FZ-07 and by midday was the bike we were least excited to climb back on. "

This post has been edited by basilisk: May 16 2017, 11:02 PM

kawasaki can't get rid of the buzz?

here's another review, noticed the buzz on the z650....

demak, the bike tht sucks?

just launched 8 models.. keep on launching.......





even manage to copy the new DUKE...






This post has been edited by basilisk: May 21 2017, 10:56 PM

if only there is CKD for susuki sv650...


this just looks better than the xsr....












This post has been edited by basilisk: May 21 2017, 11:05 PM

rebadge > copy

Modenas V15 cruiser (150cc) by Bajaj India. Cost RM5,900.

I am more interested in NS200 which priced below RM10k... but also waiting for 2017 Z250 SL

Benelli TNT600 review by motorcycle.com

http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ben...ado-review.html