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post May 22 2017, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 22 2017, 02:21 PM)
Hello friend   Pink Spider    I-m-pinkie,

If you read their prospectus, KGF has mandate to invest in Malaysia stock market with unconstrained selection. That means they can buy large cap, index linked counter, small cap and mid cap. If they want, they can also go ACE counter. With such versatile mandate and coupled with a good Fund Manager, it is not surprisingly KGF is the darling of the Malaysia focused UTF.

KMI on the other hand states in their prospectus their trust deed is to invest in Malaysian counter with global reach. To my interpretation, it appears to be targeting the large cap or index linked counters. By this virtue, this UTF is already limiting itself to only a segment of the whole KLSE. If large cap is what you think will fit into your portfolio, then one may consider buying directly into ETF Malaysia e.g., FTSE BURSA MALAYSIA KLCI ETF (0820EA).

Now, I will talk about performance. Both KGF and KMI have about the same type of volatility but KGF has better return historically. Hence, given that both offers the same level of risk, then a rationale investor should choose the one which gives a better rate of return. Understand boh?

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Thank you sifu xuzen ! 1 more question to ask, when u always talk about skimming profit, does it means if u invest RM1,000 then now the fund is worth RM1,100, u only sell off the uni equivalent to the RM100 profit and keep the RM1,000 in the fund ?

Btw, where's your crystal ball ? long time no news from the crystal ball =p
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post May 22 2017, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(i-m-pinkie @ May 22 2017, 03:19 PM)
Thank you sifu xuzen ! 1 more question to ask, when u always talk about skimming profit, does it means if u invest RM1,000 then now the fund is worth RM1,100, u only sell off the uni equivalent to the RM100 profit and keep the RM1,000 in the fund ?

Btw, where's your crystal ball ? long time no news from the crystal ball =p
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his skimming profits is like making sure the allocation stays the Same within the port.
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post May 22 2017, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 19 2017, 02:24 PM)
Just go with affin hwang select bond fund.
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Ok thanks!
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post May 22 2017, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 21 2017, 07:55 PM)

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Thanks.

Sorry for being a newbie, this is from their FAQ, right? Is this FAQ legally binding?

And what is stated in here does not completely satisfy my worries.

I have written to them and waiting for their reply.

Thanks for your help.
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post May 22 2017, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 22 2017, 04:08 PM)
Thanks.

Sorry for being a newbie, this is from their FAQ, right? Is this FAQ legally binding?

And what is stated in here does not completely satisfy my worries.

I have written to them and waiting for their reply.

Thanks for your help.
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hi sorry to butt into your conversation but I feel as I need to tell you this..

before even investing in fsm you worry alot and even have doubts after being given the relevant information and FAQs from us. now you are asking if this is legally binding and I doubt you will feel better with the email from FSM staffs

now I shudder to think when you do invest in your first funds. I can phantom the situation that you will be crippled from your indecisive nature and mistrust of everything

my two cents
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post May 22 2017, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 22 2017, 04:08 PM)
Thanks.

Sorry for being a newbie, this is from their FAQ, right? Is this FAQ legally binding?

And what is stated in here does not completely satisfy my worries.

I have written to them and waiting for their reply.

Thanks for your help.
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I think you can only invest in bonds and FD the most judging by the way you are worried about some FAQ.
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post May 22 2017, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ May 22 2017, 04:15 PM)
hi sorry to butt into your conversation but I feel as I need to tell you this..

before even investing in fsm you worry alot and even have doubts after being given the relevant information and FAQs from us. now you are asking if this is legally binding and I doubt you will feel better with the email from FSM staffs

now I shudder to think when you do invest in your first funds. I can phantom the situation that you will be crippled from your indecisive nature and mistrust of everything

my two cents
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Noted and thanks for your view.

If only you know what is my annual investment return (not to say the capital), you will be surprised.

Maybe I am too careful.

All the best!
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post May 22 2017, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 22 2017, 04:08 PM)
Thanks.

Sorry for being a newbie, this is from their FAQ, right? Is this FAQ legally binding?

And what is stated in here does not completely satisfy my worries.

I have written to them and waiting for their reply.

Thanks for your help.
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was wondering about that too for some times in the beginning too.
what was written on the web could be for publicity / promotional too.
what was written is the correct process to be channelled too.
what they reply now is the knowledge of the situation NOW.
thing can change behind the stage for who knows the reasons and when.

yes, we may be able to get back the money....but the waiting period of the court order or receivership settlement could takes time....

even banks could fails in the US....
Failed Bank List
https://www.fdic.gov/bank/individual/failed/banklist.html

Caveat emptor.....

just my 2 cents......well it does not stop me from investing my LITTLE amount.


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post May 22 2017, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 22 2017, 06:33 PM)
Noted and thanks for your view.

If only you know what is my annual investment return (not to say the capital), you will be surprised.

Maybe I am too careful.

All the best!
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Strange isn't it, there are folks who participate in some unit trust fund managed by a GLC company that do not subscribe to the FRS (Financial Reporting Standard) to the tune of a couple of hundred of thousand ringgit and yet they do not question about their FAQ legality....

These folks should be given an A plus plus for loyalty to king and country ! Fide ut Regina et Patriam !

Xuzen

This post has been edited by xuzen: May 22 2017, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(i-m-pinkie @ May 22 2017, 03:19 PM)
Thank you sifu xuzen ! 1 more question to ask, when u always talk about skimming profit, does it means if u invest RM1,000 then now the fund is worth RM1,100, u only sell off the uni equivalent to the RM100 profit and keep the RM1,000 in the fund ?

Btw, where's your crystal ball ? long time no news from the crystal ball =p
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Your statement is also true , the style described by Avangelice is also true. Both of you are correct.

Crystal ball is working in the background. She has not been giving advise because the fundamental have not change much. The advise is similar one year ago and now.

Xuzen

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post May 22 2017, 10:13 PM

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interpac will be the 3rd ponzi? i put a bet on interpac!
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post May 22 2017, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ May 22 2017, 10:04 PM)
Strange isn't it, there are folks who participate in some unit trust fund managed by a GLC company that do not subscribe to the FRS (Financial Reporting Standard) by the hundred of thousand ringgit and yet they do not question about their FAQ legality....

These folks should be given an A plus plus for loyalty to king and country ! Fide ut Regina et Patriam !

Xuzen
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Power of name what. Semua kenal govt. Siapa kenal iFast? Siapa itu? Apa itu? Product apple ke? Try asking regular folks that question.

Maybe if maybank is the one who come out with the name Maybank Fundmart. Semua kenal maybank.

Same la. Ask anyone on the street public mutual, semua kenal but tak ada orang tahu fund performance like shit.

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QUOTE(kswee @ May 22 2017, 10:13 PM)
interpac will be the 3rd ponzi? i put a bet on interpac!
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Enjoy while it last. After election semua jatuh and semua jadi senyap. This is pre-election euphoria.
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post May 22 2017, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 22 2017, 11:15 PM)
Enjoy while it last. After election semua jatuh and semua jadi senyap. This is pre-election euphoria.
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siao liao siao lio, the market going crazy! . MARKET JATUH KITA TOP UP 3X !
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QUOTE(kswee @ May 22 2017, 10:23 PM)
siao liao siao lio, the market going crazy! . MARKET JATUH KITA TOP UP 3X  !
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hmm.gif please exclude me from the "Kita"...
for I was too chickened/cashless to do that during Jan/Feb 2016..... sad.gif blush.gif

btw, did you top up 3x during that period? flex.gif
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QUOTE(MUM @ May 22 2017, 11:29 PM)
hmm.gif please exclude me from the "Kita"...
for I was too chickened/cashless to do that during Jan/Feb 2016..... sad.gif  blush.gif

btw, did you top up 3x during that period?  flex.gif
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went in on january , at start loss about 8%
but i hold on until feb, where markets start to rally.
to bad i never sailang sad.gif .
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an example of reading all the annual reports does not helps.... doh.gif cry.gif sweat.gif

Magnum and its unit Magnum Holdings Sdn Bhd (MHSB) had received respective notices of assessment from the Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia (IRB) for the years of 2008, 2011-2015 (Magnum) and 2008-2013 (MHSB), totalling RM476.4mil. 

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...IvlDZvsvR718.99

M K Land Holdings Bhd has become the latest public-listed group to announce the receipt of a surprise tax bill from the Inland Revenue Board (IRB).

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...1vzhleywfEUD.99
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QUOTE(kswee @ May 22 2017, 10:34 PM)
went in on january , at start loss about 8%
but i hold on until feb, where markets start to rally.
to bad i never sailang  sad.gif  .
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"went in on january , at start loss about 8%"......after sales charges abt 6.0% lost....."
about the same as mine of 6.7% portfolio losses during that 1 month compared with DEC 2015~ Jan 2016

"but i hold on until feb, where markets start to rally".
rclxms.gif good for you......
mine portfolio only started to moves up in May 2016..... cry.gif


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QUOTE(T231H @ May 22 2017, 10:35 PM)
an example of reading all the annual reports does not helps.... doh.gif  cry.gif  sweat.gif

Magnum and its unit Magnum Holdings Sdn Bhd (MHSB) had received respective notices of assessment from the Inland Revenue Board of Malaysia (IRB) for the years of 2008, 2011-2015 (Magnum) and 2008-2013 (MHSB), totalling RM476.4mil. 

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...IvlDZvsvR718.99

M K Land Holdings Bhd has become the latest public-listed group to announce the receipt of a surprise tax bill from the Inland Revenue Board (IRB).

Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...1vzhleywfEUD.99
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that and when Bandar City was shut down and many people lost their monies in bursa. one guy I know in i3vestor has an uncle who lost 6 digits in one acternoon

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 22 2017, 11:31 AM)
Your agent trying to mislead you to make his 5.5% sales charge appear cheaper.
Mine telling us from what company the agent is?
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not sure he is from which company as we contacted by chat app


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