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suadrif
post May 21 2017, 10:36 PM

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Guys, just want to do a quick check.

One of the advantage having Fundsupermart platform compared to any agent is LOWER SALES CHARGE.
FSM platform sales charge is ranging from 0-2% per transaction whereas agent charges up to 7%.

But recently there's agent saying that FSM is charging us WRAP FEE which is 1.5% from our ANNUAL TOTAL AMOUNT. Is this statement true? I dont have any clue on this.
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post May 21 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 21 2017, 10:46 PM)
Hahahaha... WRAP account is only for special people. WRAP account let you switch any fund you want without kena additional charges. Usually reserved for financial planners. Only xuzen is using that account. It's out of reached for normal people like us.

Keep in mind whether you buy from agents or FSM, you kena charge ~1.5% management fees. This management fees is already calculated in the NAV of the fund. Whether the fund perform or not, management fees need to be paid.
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Yup understood the management fee is different.

This is only specifically WRAP FEE that they are talking about. I did counter them using the same statement.
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post May 23 2017, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(Drian @ May 22 2017, 11:31 AM)
Your agent trying to mislead you to make his 5.5% sales charge appear cheaper.
Mine telling us from what company the agent is?
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not sure he is from which company as we contacted by chat app

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post Oct 25 2017, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Kokman @ Oct 24 2017, 08:37 PM)
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You can use this CNBC world heat map to get a feel of how your broadly diversified equity portfolio is moving now.
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sorry for asking, but how to read this map?
means market is moving to Asia now?

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post Jul 9 2018, 10:37 AM

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why i cannot buy using Maybank2U anymore?
got two option, using FPX or using Maybank2U
i chose by FPX, it redirect me to Maybank2E and ask for Corporate ID. what the heck is that?

another attempt i choose Maybank2U. after login, it was nothing... it shows me my normal account display.

where is the online payment transaction window??
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post Jul 9 2018, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 9 2018, 11:37 AM)
er.. just to clarify ya:
U guys doing the transaction @ home / your hotspot OR from office network?

Just sharing:
Some offices have multi-line/ISP connection to the Internet with auto-load balancing (like mine) & FSM's system doesn't handle load-balancing from my multi-lines well, thus, i usually connect to my phone's hotspot to execute if in the office.
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office.
perhaps this is the issue
gonna try this again. thanks for highlighting
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post Jul 9 2018, 02:10 PM

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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 9 2018, 11:13 AM)
U may complain to FSM about this. I also face similar issue. When transfer with FPX then choosing M2U, sometimes will fail due to not able to redirect to M2U website. Then FSM system will block FPX option for that order. I have to void it n redo everything again. I kena 2-3 times recently
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Jul 9 2018, 11:37 AM)
er.. just to clarify ya:
U guys doing the transaction @ home / your hotspot OR from office network?

Just sharing:
Some offices have multi-line/ISP connection to the Internet with auto-load balancing (like mine) & FSM's system doesn't handle load-balancing from my multi-lines well, thus, i usually connect to my phone's hotspot to execute if in the office.
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QUOTE(WhitE LighteR @ Jul 9 2018, 11:57 AM)
home unifi
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my transaction success.
proven, its due to office network connection.
i signed out my office wifi network and use personal mobile hotspot, then the FSM transaction become normal.

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post Jul 10 2018, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(ROSS_Solar @ Jul 9 2018, 07:36 PM)
Well... I'm not in panic anyway. Just a bit frustrated with volatility and overall bearish trend for such a long period of time :-/
Will reduce DCA  for now + remaining part of usual amounts will go to CMF, waiting for better times
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 9 2018, 07:46 PM)
thumbup.gif a few forummers had been mentioning that they are doing that too....some are going into ASN FP funds....
the FD threads are having 4.3X% too...

yes,...do what ever that suits each individuals at the moment in time....important is be happy and continue to save, invest and diverse...

DCA may not suits some people.....
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sorry, i dont understand,
why reduce DCA now? i thought when NAV is low actually is a good time for DCA?
this is the best time to pump in your capital right?
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post Jul 10 2018, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 10 2018, 09:07 AM)
maybe because every time they topped up, the NAV goes lower again, and after a few times of DCA...the heart goes weak....
they foresee that the fund would not improve much for the time being and think that other alternative are better for the time being....
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i see...
so its more because of fund itself rather than the UT concept.
thanks for clear my confusion.
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post Jul 11 2018, 08:58 AM

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i really confuse with all the statement about DCA this few days.
too many comments and too many opinions.


even if someone is practicing DCA in proven fund for more than 5 years (eg. Kenanga, CIMB Dali...), its not wrong to topup your investment when market is down. It sure will rise again surpassing the current NAV. Please correct me if i am wrong?
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post Jul 11 2018, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 09:23 AM)
DCA is simple. You topup when every month without regardless if market condition.

The modified version which one can use is
Topup lesser when market is up.  Why do you want to topup more when market is expensive? Then use the  amount you save to topup more when market is down.

Market down is good time to topup more rather than when market going up.

For me,  I don't topup when market is going up and up. Again why should I topup?  So that FOMO?  No thank you. Opportunity is comes. When market start going down,  that's when I start to look and see if topup is worth it. If just fall 1-2%, just let it go.  Again I said I look. Not topup. I set myself a range when I will start topping g up.
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yes, true. this is what i understand. thats why i see only your post and few others are relevant. others is sounds too confusing.
for my portfolio is drop 12%, thats why i pumped in another bullet this week. within 3 days it went up again 2%..

QUOTE(ViNC3 @ Jul 11 2018, 09:24 AM)
tbh, you guys made DCA sounded like a cult sweat.gif
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yes, true .. why people make argument of "mine one is DCA enuf and yours are not fulfill DCA concept", "mine is undisturbed DCA", "DCA this", "DCA that", etc... bla3...
this is not a religion...
it makes people confuse especially for newcomers that read this later on.

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post Jul 12 2018, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 11 2018, 06:38 PM)
Awaiting to pump my PRS. For regular UT I can pump anytime I want as I always have access to zero percent service charge. So no hurry. For regular UT I would like it to fall a bit more for it to hit that sweet spot.
Planning to. Not yet hit the target price for my fund yet.
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Ramjade just curious.
Normally if u gain more, what do you do for those profit?
example, after 6 years u gained 12%. those proft u just keep it in the same fund or u switch to low risk fund?
or withdraw the cash to put in FD?
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post Jul 16 2018, 01:26 PM

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since when this thing effective???

Error: According to the prospectus of the fund you intend to switch out from, if you are not redeeming ALL the units, you are required to retain at least MYR 100.0 worth of units in your holdings.For RHB Cash Management Fund 2, this is equivalent to 74.58Units

as i know previously i can withdraw up to the last single cents??!
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post Jul 16 2018, 03:45 PM

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QUOTE(funnyface @ Jul 16 2018, 03:03 PM)
yea.... sweat.gif  I remember i have left Rm3.xx before and it was allowed. Now seems like min is RM100  hmm.gif
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yes actually just 3 days ago i had RM0.55 in my cash management fund.
only this time around i park few k first in the CMF because market drop.
but now suddenly got this kind of thing?
since when FSM getting so desperate?
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QUOTE(T231H @ Jul 16 2018, 03:48 PM)
you mentioned...."According to the prospectus...."
FSM came out with the prospectus?
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not sure. didn't see the prospectus for cash management fund.
perhaps my popup blocker stop the popup window.
i never bother to check also since this is just a cash management fund instead of investment fund.

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post Jul 25 2018, 11:57 AM

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guys, if there is any fund that can maintain around 6% per annum with low/medium risk, what fund is recommended? i am looking for fund that can beat Fix Deposit rate to dump my cash.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 25 2018, 12:41 PM)
Try ASN Fixed priced funds?
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for Non Bumi... ASN got quota.

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post Jul 26 2018, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jul 25 2018, 11:28 PM)
Your only option:
1) amanah saham fixed priced fund. Almost risk free.
All amanah saham fixed price fund have quota. You can only buy when someone sell.
Apa cap? Cap is based on how fat is your bank account. Some people have 6-7 figures inside
Anyway this is all OT, best to cont discussion at https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4183284
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yeah, thanks Ramjade for clear clarification.

let say the quota is full or already park maximum available value, as alternative i want to park the cash in FSM, which fund is recommended?
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post Apr 6 2020, 09:30 PM

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malaysia market this time drop so much.
is it good to do cost averaging now? or park somewhere else is better?
my Malaysia fund is dropping close to 20% now
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post Apr 7 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 6 2020, 11:14 PM)
just asking....how many % of M'sia Equities have you allocated in your UT portfolio?
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Malaysia around around 30% and it has been dropping about 24% since early 2019. better switch out? or topup for cost averaging?
remaining 70% is Asia Pacific which is slump about 10% only. this one i dare to topup more.

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