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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Mar 3 2017, 11:31 AM

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My APAC REITS is the most underperforming one currently, at 1.7%.
It seems like it's probably going to be in the 4-5%range this year, any ideas whether I should switch.
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post Mar 6 2017, 09:10 AM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 1 2017, 01:55 PM)
Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be;
The future's not ours to see;
Que sera sera, whatever will be, will be.

I shall:

Continue to skim profit from Uncle Sam,

Continue to Selinalize my port,

Add a little more hnggh into RHB EMB!

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post Mar 9 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(fun_feng @ Mar 8 2017, 04:16 PM)
Maybe I did not make my sentence clearer...
What i meant was the initial tax relief you got when amortised (new word to me) over a long period of time, the advantage is probably not going to worth it for all the hassle of PRS..
E.g. you get 20% tax rebate from the PRS, and you still have 20 years before you can withdraw this money. This works out to roughly 1% p.a. which meansĀ  whatever your PRS return was that year, you add 1% return to it.
So this versus you put this money into FSM or whatever and actively manage it whereby you are free to choose between hundreds of UT products and you are free to withdraw all during a freefall..

Hope you get the gist of what I am trying to say, I aint well-versed in economic terms.. I am not disputing the power of compound interest or UT in general

My point is there are pros and cons and probably more cons than what ppl thought.
E.g. If we have a retiree-gonna-be, then this PRS income tax relief is a no brainer, since he is going to get his money back within a few years
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It's not so simple because you have to consider the tax returns as a form of capital.
Lets assume you have 3k and you can either invest in PRS or unit trust.

If you invest in unit trust:-

Investment capital unit trust:- RM3k


If you invest in PRS:-

Invstment capital unit trust : RM720 (24% of 3k)
Investment capital PRS: RM3k


So you start of with a total higher investment capital if you go through the PRS route.
But I do agree if your tax bracket is lower than 20%, you probably better of starting with unit trust and when your tax bracket exceed the 20% range , start investing in PRS.

Now at 20 years whether or not you're better off with PRS or Unit Trust depends on PRS returns and unit trust returns.

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post Mar 10 2017, 06:18 PM

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1.7% to -0.19% Manulife Asia pacific reit in just a month
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post Mar 20 2017, 10:31 AM

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Returns since the last 1% sc promotion in October? 2016

So from the list I do feel that Technology and India has already gone up really fast for the past 6-7 months .
17% in 6 months is very good performance so I expect less upside from now onwards.

So I have around rm15k to invest, what areas do you think would have more upside potential for the rest of the year?
I think REITS potential is limited with US interest rates hike, which means only asian income left?

What ports do you think will take advantage of the upcoming local election?





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post Mar 22 2017, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 24 2017, 09:07 AM)
for the new bloods remember that UT investment takes years to come to fruition not treat it like some trading platform and if you are so afraid of corrections and losing your profits, think back on how many big events have had happened over the decade and look at the same funds that went through those big events.

I hope in investment whether it's stocks or UT, the worst factor in the whole process is human greed and fear.
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Although that is generally true, but buying at the wrong time might set you back a year or two in terms of ROI.







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post Mar 27 2017, 11:38 AM

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Side topic - Any good investment seminar that you've attended before that is not
regurgitating the obvious.


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post Apr 4 2017, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Apr 4 2017, 07:43 PM)
April's Fundsupermart Choice fund.

https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/resea...pril-2017--8175

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Absolutely pathetic
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Hmm 1.78 million fund size... can you even pay the fund managers with that fund size.
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post Apr 5 2017, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Apr 5 2017, 02:32 PM)
Wow you are here also?
For PRS, free RM1k is if you are below = 30 years old.
Yes. PRS tax relief only RM3k. So buy max RM3k/year

To reduce income tax further,
Look into SSPN (for kids at about 4% better than FD rates), max RM2500 lifestyle tax relief (buy books/newspaper - I am going to use this to buy MY Edge - annual electronic sub), donate! , parents + spouse allowance.
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You can use the lifestyle tax relief for unifi.
That alone can take up to 2k of the tax relief.
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post May 15 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ May 13 2017, 11:58 PM)
hmm.gif how to interpret the market valuation table?
hope this can helps....

Valuations
The market weighted price-earnings ratio (PE) or ā€˜market valuations’ as we commonly address it, is a measurement of how ā€˜expensive’ or ā€˜cheap’ a market is at a particular point of time. The information on market valuations is easily available on our fundsupermart website.

So how is the price-earnings ratio calculated? The price-earnings ratio is the current price of the market divided by the expected earnings per share for the market.
Expected earnings are calculated on a weighted average basis ( companies with a higher market capitalization will have a higher ā€˜weight’ in the calculation of expected earnings).

It is relatively straightforward to compare valuations. A market with a high PE is considered ā€˜expensive’ and a market with a low PE is considered ā€˜cheap’.
However, bear in mind that this valuation measurement is used on a relative basis. Valuations can be compared across markets, or compared within the same market on a historical basis.

In the case of profit taking, comparing with historical valuations is more relevant, as it is a better gauge as to whether the market is overvalued or not.

In other words, if the PE for market A is 25 times, on an absolute basis you cannot tell whether it is expensive or cheap.
However, if a comparison is made vis-Ć -vis other regions and we find that valuations of other regions range from 30 times to 40 times, the valuation for this market is relatively attractive.

But for the purpose of deciding whether or not to take profits, we can compare current valuations to the historical range of valuations. If historical valuations range from 10-15 times, we can say that market A is ā€˜currently trading at a relatively high PE in comparison to the historical range’. In such a situation, investors should consider taking profits.

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...?articleNo=1783

https://secure.fundsupermart.com/main/resea...l?articleNo=606

Determining equity market’s attractiveness
https://www.themalaysianreserve.com/new/sto...-attractiveness
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hmm didn't know FSM existed in 2005

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post May 15 2017, 12:21 PM

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This is something I can't understand:-

My RHB Asian income is now at +4.35% bought somewhere in September 2016 which means it's around 8 months now.

However looking at the fund return page
https://www.fundsupermart.com.my/main/fundi...e-Fund-MYOSKAIF

It shows 6 months:- 6.54% 1year:- 12.1%

So why the discrepency? hmm.gif Am i missing something


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QUOTE(T231H @ May 15 2017, 12:24 PM)
could be due to to "cut off" date prior publishing....
try use the fund return tool in FUNDS INFO

(have to minus the SC though)
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Yup
Fund info form Sept 2016 to May 2017 only showed 5.3%

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Another quick question, are you able to transfer holdings from beneficiary to main account and vice versa. One of my wife's company benefit is 1.5% charge for FSM. Will I be able to purchase through her and transfer to my account?

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QUOTE(David83 @ May 15 2017, 06:54 PM)
Your wife company is in Penang? It starts with I? whistling.gif
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Correct LOL Should have change the percentage to make it less obvious laugh.gif
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QUOTE(suadrif @ May 21 2017, 10:36 PM)
Guys, just want to do a quick check.

One of the advantage having Fundsupermart platform compared to any agent is LOWER SALES CHARGE.
FSM platform sales charge is ranging from 0-2% per transaction whereas agent charges up to 7%.

But recently there's agent saying that FSM is charging us WRAP FEE which is 1.5% from our ANNUAL TOTAL AMOUNT. Is this statement true? I dont have any clue on this.
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Your agent trying to mislead you to make his 5.5% sales charge appear cheaper.
Mine telling us from what company the agent is?


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QUOTE(plumberly @ May 22 2017, 04:08 PM)
Thanks.

Sorry for being a newbie, this is from their FAQ, right? Is this FAQ legally binding?

And what is stated in here does not completely satisfy my worries.

I have written to them and waiting for their reply.

Thanks for your help.
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I think you can only invest in bonds and FD the most judging by the way you are worried about some FAQ.
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post May 27 2017, 12:55 PM

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I was thinking of investing into this fully managed fund. Then I can truly benchmark DIY vs fully managed.

Quick question are you able to seperately buy this fully managed in a seperate account.
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QUOTE(Vintage @ Jun 5 2017, 05:33 PM)
i was discussing with my mother about fsm and all these platforms in general and she has concerns on their legitimacy. what kind of evidence does fsm provide to show that they actually made the investments on your behalf? do they provide a proof of purchase from the trust fund itself?
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The fact that they are regulated under SC?
They have branches in Singapore and Hong Kong, both are financial hubs, do you think they can escape auditors for so many years.

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Jun 6 2017, 04:48 PM)
Tenaga stock even moved after months of being stuck below 14.today it shot up 14.4

klse heading to 1800
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Managed to get tenaga at 13.76 when it was in the "stagnant" phase 3 weeks ago.
But I got this more for the dividend .

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