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Nemozai
post Mar 16 2017, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:02 PM)
My bet bangwall.gif
Btw, need a second opinion from you guys here. Called up FSM and spoke to their Client Investment Specialist (named Edward if i heard it correctly) pertaining to investing in PRS.

I'm pretty keen in getting into PRS simply due to the governments incentive of giving out an additional RM1K to those that have at least made a RM1K contribution in a given calendar year.

Seriously dont know as to which PRS should i go for and FSM recommended me to opt for Kenanga's One PRS Growth. Upon skimming thru the prospectus realized that the given fund has invested over 60%+ in KGF and the balance in Kenanga's Bond Fund.

I seriously do not want my PRS to be solely focused on the Malaysian market since I am currently holding a portfolio of stocks in my account.

Are there any other equity PRS funds that you guys would recommend me to explore (not solely invested in Malaysia and it has to be an equity fund) ?
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I just bought in CIMB-Principal PRS plus Asia Pacific Class C. This fund feed into Ponzi 2.0. icon_idea.gif

This post has been edited by Nemozai: Mar 16 2017, 01:07 PM
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:02 PM)
My bet bangwall.gif

Thanks
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QUOTE(Nemozai @ Mar 16 2017, 01:06 PM)
I just bought in CIMB-Principal PRS plus Asia Pacific Class C. This fund feed into Ponzi 2.0.  icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 16 2017, 01:01 PM)
Wow. You are following xuzen past mistake. He pump 80% of his money into china. China pull a sudden act, overnight xuzen lost 80% of what he have.
Do not remove FD unless you can find substitute. For me my substitute will be amanah saham fixed price but will change it to affin hwang select bond fund.

Guess you didn't experience below FD retuens yet huh? For 6 monrhs + my return was worse than normal FD rate. 6 months you know. Whichi is < 3%. Thank god now it move to +5%. Still cannot beat my amanah saham yet. Ready for day it does. drool.gif
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Yes, I'm the newbie asking about Affin Hwang select bond fund few posts earlier. More liquid also. thumbup.gif

I'm looking into doing that too. rclxms.gif rclxm9.gif

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post Mar 16 2017, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 16 2017, 11:34 AM)
I think the market this round has digested the rate hike earlier, so the adjustments were made prior to the announcement.

Thanks for the alert anyway. But I also don't know what to do if it tanks. Maybe just hold, and top up opportunistically.
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Talk about tanking, I still remember my dear old PM fund. When it tank, i'm holding it dearly and keep topping up. And they never bounce back. WTH! Anyway, now I'm getting wary of such similar situation. i never know what is worth holding.
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:37 PM)
Talk about tanking, I still remember my dear old PM fund. When it tank, i'm holding it dearly and keep topping up. And they never bounce back. WTH! Anyway, now I'm getting wary of such similar situation. i never know what is worth holding.
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Which fund you referring too ? Mind sharing ?
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:37 PM)
Talk about tanking, I still remember my dear old PM fund. When it tank, i'm holding it dearly and keep topping up. And they never bounce back. WTH! Anyway, now I'm getting wary of such similar situation. i never know what is worth holding.
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There's always a reason why everything goes up or goes down. understand the key reasons and tweak your investment decision accordingly
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:37 PM)
Talk about tanking, I still remember my dear old PM fund. When it tank, i'm holding it dearly and keep topping up. And they never bounce back. WTH! Anyway, now I'm getting wary of such similar situation. i never know what is worth holding.
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That's scary isn't it, keep topping up and never bounce back ! cry.gif
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:02 PM)
My bet bangwall.gif
Btw, need a second opinion from you guys here. Called up FSM and spoke to their Client Investment Specialist (named Edward if i heard it correctly) pertaining to investing in PRS.

I'm pretty keen in getting into PRS simply due to the governments incentive of giving out an additional RM1K to those that have at least made a RM1K contribution in a given calendar year.

Seriously dont know as to which PRS should i go for and FSM recommended me to opt for Kenanga's One PRS Growth. Upon skimming thru the prospectus realized that the given fund has invested over 60%+ in KGF and the balance in Kenanga's Bond Fund.

I seriously do not want my PRS to be solely focused on the Malaysian market since I am currently holding a portfolio of stocks in my account.

Are there any other equity PRS funds that you guys would recommend me to explore (not solely invested in Malaysia and it has to be an equity fund) ?
Thanks
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Never buy just for the RM1000 handout. Buy so that you pay less tax rclxm9.gif
Look into CImb Asia Pacific Dynamic PRS as what Nemozai mentioned. Alternatively, you can grab the Amasia REITS PRS which feeds into Amasia REITs.

Although personally, my choice would be that cimb fund.

QUOTE(Amanda85 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:37 PM)
Talk about tanking, I still remember my dear old PM fund. When it tank, i'm holding it dearly and keep topping up. And they never bounce back. WTH! Anyway, now I'm getting wary of such similar situation. i never know what is worth holding.
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If a fund does not perform after 3 years, sell it. 3 years is the max to keep a non performing fund. 2 years min. Kasi chance la.

QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:42 PM)
There's always a reason why everything goes up or goes down. understand the key reasons and tweak your investment decision accordingly
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Not necessary. Some funds never perform. Take some of the Malaysian focus RHB funds for instance.
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 16 2017, 01:01 PM)
Wow. You are following xuzen past mistake. He pump 80% of his money into china. China pull a sudden act, overnight xuzen lost 80% of what he have.
Do not remove FD unless you can find substitute. For me my substitute will be amanah saham fixed price but will change it to affin hwang select bond fund.

Guess you didn't experience below FD retuens yet huh? For 6 monrhs + my return was worse than normal FD rate. 6 months you know. Whichi is < 3%. Thank god now it move to +5%. Still cannot beat my amanah saham yet. Ready for day it does. drool.gif
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I'm just pretty damn optimistic about the US economy for at least the 1st Quarter of 2017.

Would tweak my portfolio accordingly when i get more funds next month.

Btw, i went over to Maybank and enquired if i could open a sg savings account from their branch here and they said No. Messed up thing was that the staff even told me that if i was to head over to SG to open up an account, I have to prove that I have a working permit/studying there which is pretty messed up.

She claimed that i could have a chance of easily opening an account there if i was to subscribe to one of their products and deposited a huge sum of money bangwall.gif bangwall.gif

Sadly, god didn't bless me with RM2.6B, If he did, i would have definitely signed up for some financial product there lol whistling.gif
QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 16 2017, 01:10 PM)
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Would pull the trigger on the given PRS fund within the next few days
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:50 PM)
I'm just pretty damn optimistic about the US economy for at least the 1st Quarter of 2017.

Would tweak my portfolio accordingly when i get more funds next month.

Btw, i went over to Maybank and enquired if i could open a sg savings account from their branch here and they said No. Messed up thing was that the staff even told me that if i was to head over to SG to open up an account, I have to prove that I have a working permit/studying there which is pretty messed up.

She claimed that i could have a chance of easily opening an account there if i was to subscribe to one of their products and deposited a huge sum of money  bangwall.gif  bangwall.gif

Sadly, god didn't bless me with RM2.6B, If he did, i would have definitely signed up for some financial product there lol whistling.gif
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You do not need to buy anything from Maybank. It's a free service by Maybank. Not sure if it still exist or they have shut it down due to too many people exploiting that hole to open account.

You can always give it a try. Make sure you have account with Maybank MY first. Then download the application. Fill it up and drop it off at selected Maybank branches. And wait for 1 month. Call SG for updates you won't received any notification/sms/email from them that your application is successful.
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post Mar 16 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 16 2017, 01:56 PM)
You do not need to buy anything from Maybank. It's a free service by Maybank. Not sure if it still exist or they have shut it down due to too many people exploiting that hole to open account.

You can always give it a try. Make sure you have account with Maybank MY first. Then download the application. Fill it up and drop it off at selected Maybank branches. And wait for 1 month. Call SG for updates you won't received any notification/sms/email from them that your application is successful.
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Guess you understood me wrongly, she said that if i bought/subscribed to any products in Maybank SG, then they would accept my request to open an acc with them
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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:59 PM)
Guess you understood me wrongly, she said that if i bought/subscribed to any products in Maybank SG, then they would accept my request to open an acc with them
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Again you do not need to buy anything from Maybank SG whistling.gif Hantar form je. Only cost
1x banker cheque
1x Pos Laju fees

The question is whether it still exist or not is another story whistling.gif

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QUOTE(shankar_dass93 @ Mar 16 2017, 01:02 PM)
Are there any other equity PRS funds that you guys would recommend me to explore (not solely invested in Malaysia and it has to be an equity fund) ?
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I have chosen to invest in CIMB Asia Pacific PRS Fund since 2014.

For those who do not want pure malaysia exposure, fund choices are not plenty, makes it easier to choose i think.
1) Affin Hwang PRS
2) Am Asia Reits PRS
3) the fund mentioned above.
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QUOTE(adele123 @ Mar 16 2017, 02:56 PM)
I have chosen to invest in CIMB Asia Pacific PRS Fund since 2014.

For those who do not want pure malaysia exposure, fund choices are not plenty, makes it easier to choose i think.
1) Affin Hwang PRS
2) Am Asia Reits PRS
3) the fund mentioned above.
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Which affin hwang do you mean?
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post Mar 16 2017, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 16 2017, 02:58 PM)
Which affin hwang do you mean?
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affin hwang prs growth and moderate (non-syariah).
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post Mar 16 2017, 04:38 PM

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Actually just to clear my doubt...can our muslim friends legally invest in non-syariah compliance funds? or is that a choice?

It sometimes puzzled me in which that major non-syariah business (eg. gambling, alcohol, etc) are heavily taxed, which in turn the money (if not went into MO1's pocket) will be used in the federal budget...which the end user is the citizen, and it consist of many muslims...?? How?
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QUOTE(2387581 @ Mar 16 2017, 04:38 PM)
Actually just to clear my doubt...can our muslim friends legally invest in non-syariah compliance funds? or is that a choice?

It sometimes puzzled me in which that major non-syariah business (eg. gambling, alcohol, etc) are heavily taxed, which in turn the money (if not went into MO1's pocket) will be used in the federal budget...which the end user is the citizen, and it consist of many muslims...?? How?
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Well my muslim friend told me syariah stuff is nonsense and all marketing stuff. He decide not to choose syariah funds as it limit his opportunities and choices.

It depends on who you asked. whistling.gif

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post Mar 16 2017, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 16 2017, 04:41 PM)
Well my muslim friend told me syariah stuff is nonsense and all marketing stuff. He decide not to choose syariah funds as it limit his opportunities and choices.

It depends on who you asked.  whistling.gif
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Well the opportunist would be well off knowing this and using it to his advantage.

Shariah and halal compliant is the current rage and with this, religious themed businesses in Malaysia is experiencing healthy growth due to the demand. Good to invest in Islamic fund. Lots of potential there.

This post has been edited by killdavid: Mar 16 2017, 05:08 PM
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post Mar 16 2017, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 16 2017, 08:43 AM)
extend the rows to accommodated the number of funds required in your portfolio?
unless the number of funds in your portfolio exceeded the number of rows in the excel programs....
I think is > 10 000 rows
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is not about the rows limit, was the calculation was too many data, sometime will error in some row, need to expand the fubd to make the calculation work.

I think buy fund in a wrong timing does consider bad decision. means iddnt study the market
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post Mar 16 2017, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(fense @ Mar 16 2017, 05:26 PM)
is not about the rows limit, was the calculation was too many data, sometime will error in some row, need to expand the fubd to make the calculation work.

I think buy fund in a wrong timing does consider bad decision. means iddnt study the market
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Not so straight forward lar. Most of the time we make guesses only, sometimes with a little luck. Not everything is predictable

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