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 FundSuperMart v18 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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post Feb 10 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 10 2017, 12:44 PM)
as always,...some corrections will happens later....

hmm.gif just not sure when it will be, for how long and how much.
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Isn't this the correction itself ? Malaysia is undervalued right ?
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post Feb 10 2017, 11:22 PM

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please let me know if i got this correctly.
the rhb cash management fund 2 allows us to instantly redeem our units to buy into other funds within FSM and the transaction happens on the very same day right ?
It is only when we want to sell it for cash that we have to wait 2 working days ?
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post Feb 11 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 11 2017, 03:37 PM)
If you look at his Freedom fund which he was kind enough to share, his return for 2015 was about 2.x % and 2016 was 3.x %

So investing in stock was not as easy in real life when you factor in all the variables. If you are a talented investor then for sure. But for an average Joe, who wants a simpler path, then maybe informed passive investment in mutual fund is a worthy consideration.

I mean for me that is, I don't care if UT can't beat the benchmarks in returns. My assumption is that UT did their due diligence in diversification so for sure that may dampen the returns, but if the UT loses more than benchmark in bad times then it says something negative about the fund. UT should be less volatile than the benchmark, that is my expectation.

I prefer to compare UT with all my existing crappy investment like FD, endowment and such. If UT is consistently >3% better in returns than these instruments then i am all for it.

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post Feb 11 2017, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 11 2017, 05:45 PM)
That's just dividend. His capital gain + dividends - 14.69%
Respectable for malaysian marketĀ  notworthy.gif
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ok thanks for correcting my view tongue.gif


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post Feb 14 2017, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(2387581 @ Feb 14 2017, 08:57 AM)
There are many funds which do not distribute units...? For example CIMB Greater China, Manulife US
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I guess for those funds, you have to enter and take your profit at the right time.
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post Feb 14 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Feb 14 2017, 09:06 AM)
hmm.gif Shouldn't this be applicable to ALL funds instead of those funds?
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But like you said right, in his scenario, over time the fund has distributions and he accumulated more units. So even when the NAV grows back, it grows back with compound interest via the additional units he posses.

But with no distributions and re-invest, then the value of his investment is solely depending on NAV. So even when the fund starts to go up, it would be with his 1000 units. Do correct me if i'm wrong. I'm also learning.

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post Feb 14 2017, 05:36 PM

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AmAsia REIT seems to get more love here than MANULIFE ASIA-PACIFIC REIT.

Anyone want to elaborate on this ?
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post Feb 16 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 16 2017, 10:42 AM)
That's right.

That's why there 3 school of thoughs:
(i) leave it on auto pilot
(ii) moniter the market like a hawk
(iii) take profit every now and then (a profit is still a profit - remember that)
For me? I am more of (i) but since I need bullets for SG, so hell yeah, just withdraw while there's still profit.
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Time your entry into the fund, then leave it auto pilot from then on. Can ?
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post Feb 22 2017, 09:26 AM

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Morning all, just for sharing. This shows where all the big investment company are putting their bet on. So maybe can help you decide where you should invest in.[attachmentid=8512171]

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Just what to add in what i gather from this info, i am noob don't flame me ya.
When Trump came into power there was a huge capital flight from China for fear of trade war. Now when things start to settle down that capital is going into emerging markets like Russia. Maybe Trump showing signs of wanting to be Putin's buddy. But China now seems to be under valued maybe for fear there is still chance for trade war. So maybe China is a good bet, with leadership change unlikely and strong domestic demands.

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post Feb 22 2017, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Feb 22 2017, 10:49 AM)
I would because I already placed measures to make sure I can withstand the fall out. plus I always believed a reset button is needed to every once awhile. look at 2008 American economical disaster. people see it as a recession. I see it as a lesson to everyone not not let banks do whatever shit they want which caused the problem to begin with.

you never learn when you never fall.
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Then obama put in those stops on the banks. Now Trupm is taking away the stops. Another road to a big reset ? biggrin.gif
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post Feb 22 2017, 01:35 PM

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guys, those who have RHB EM bond fund, there was a huge drop of NAV >1 %. Is this due to the unit distribution ?
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post Feb 22 2017, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 22 2017, 01:53 PM)
Shit, does not appear to be due to distribution.
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What makes you say that ? There was already an announcement of distribution on 20 Feb, only not announce is the distribution payout factor. Else it would seem rather odd that bond fund being that volatile.

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post Feb 22 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 22 2017, 06:32 PM)
Agreed. That's why whatever returns earned in SG stays in SG unless needed (big event eg. To further my studies).Further injection will be done once I start working.

Collect as much cash as possible then head down. Going down to deposit is really a hassle sad.gif but save min SGD60/trip (aftet counting transport)

Lol. Find chicken.  whistling.gif whistling.gif
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That's alot of effort just to safeguard your asset. Don't forget to live your life and smell the flowers. You only live once
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Feb 23 2017, 12:44 PM)
He's a fund manager (or should be one smile.gif ) - he's more interested in doing all the detail stuff, not one to leave it to others smile.gif
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Suddenly this thread is quiet when he is not around ? tongue.gif
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post Feb 24 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Feb 24 2017, 11:53 AM)
Is it correct to say if there is a fed rates hike coming up, it will favour bond funds ?
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As far as I know rate hikes are bad for bond pricing. Maybe some sifu can clarify ?
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post Feb 24 2017, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Feb 24 2017, 02:26 PM)
For example, high yield bond funds is less impacted by interest rate compared to normal bond funds because high yield bonds tends to be factor more by the underlying bond credit risk (since they invest in lower credit rating companies)

Shorter duration bonds also less impacted compared to longer duration bonds since they mature fast and less impact on their valuation smile.gif
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High Yield bond is also known as junk bonds or non investment bonds. They are loans to companies considered high risk due to their lower credit rating. So the more pressing risk is whether these company will default. But my understanding is they are also exposed to rate increase but this risk is lower compared to defaults.

We may not be so adversely affected depending on the fund that we buy. I think if you buy US bond fund then now is the time for you to find contingency. I think most of us buy MY, AP or EM bond fund, less effect. No direct impact but may feel secondary impact due to interconnecting factors.
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post Feb 25 2017, 10:20 AM

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i see a risk in UA HY fund. This is non-investment grade bonds or junk bonds. But still fine, RHB EM fund also junk bonds, the thing that caught my attention is its allocation of >30% in China. RHB EM is more dispersed across many counties.

There has been a lot of articles from bloomberg where analysts are talking about the growing risk of unregulated debt structure in China, and could be the trigger that destabilize the china economy. The gov are putting in regulations but the banks keep finding loopholes. Scared i cannot sleep at night
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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Feb 25 2017, 10:30 AM)
Leave the risk management to the fund manager, u paid them management fees for that.
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haha true , true ... but i also take ya'll advise that we need to understand what we are investing in and the risk.
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post Feb 25 2017, 10:43 AM

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if you look at dec till now, kenanga growth fund is charging up like a race horse. What's up with that? anyone still buying malaysian equitiy fund lately ? looks like on a path of recovery if oil stays above 60 usd
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post Feb 26 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(wengherng @ Feb 26 2017, 03:05 PM)
That's an idea that never occurred to me......
But now that you mentioned it, it sounds so obvious......
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Sorry, but don't you get charged switching fees? Lile rm25 for AH or inter investment switch sales charge ?

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