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killdavid
post Mar 4 2017, 03:10 PM

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Well the Feds have announced that multiple rate hike is imminent this year. Be prepared for a minor downward trend for the indices as investors will take evasive measures.
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post Mar 4 2017, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Mar 4 2017, 03:10 PM)
Well the Feds have announced that multiple rate hike is imminent this year. Be prepared for a minor downward trend for the indices as investors will take evasive measures.
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I guess only retails investors are concern as fund mgrs would hv taken proactive actions more than 1 yr ago.......
Well noises can create fears unjustily.
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 4 2017, 06:40 PM)
I guess only retails investors are concern as fund mgrs would hv taken proactive actions more than 1 yr ago.......
Well noises can create fears unjustily.
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so whose fault is this? obama? trump? yellen?
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Mar 4 2017, 06:40 PM)
I guess only retails investors are concern as fund mgrs would hv taken proactive actions more than 1 yr ago.......
Well noises can create fears unjustily.
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Are fund managers authorized to short sell on behalf of the fund?

QUOTE(john123x @ Mar 4 2017, 07:08 PM)
so whose fault is this? obama? trump? yellen?
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Nobody's fault. Feds are doing their job to cool down the market before inflation goes uncontrolled. The reason for multiple rate increase is so that they can do small incremental instead of a huge adjustment that could cause a big shock reaction in the market
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Mar 4 2017, 10:22 AM)
aduh who reported my post??? offending kah this post
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just ignore it..

there's serial reporter in all topic..
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(theevilman1909 @ Mar 4 2017, 07:56 PM)
just ignore it..

there's serial reporter in all topic..
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post Mar 4 2017, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(killdavid @ Mar 4 2017, 07:51 PM)
Are fund managers authorized to short sell on behalf of the fund?
Nobody's fault. Feds are doing their job to cool down the market before inflation goes uncontrolled. The reason for multiple rate increase is so that they can do small incremental instead of a huge adjustment that could cause a big shock reaction in the market
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I would think the investors would be able to take these adjustments considering that the indices have gained so much since after Trump got elected.

If the market decided to go for a major correction, it will not be due to rate revision. It has to be some other factors.
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Mar 4 2017, 11:44 AM)
no wonder you got reported. lol 4 posts back to back without multi quote . I think it breaks the forum rules and its regarded as spam as some people abuse the system to get more stars. which is something I cannot understand with some kids who regard the stars as "dick measuring contest"a

and no I didn't report you i got more things to worry about than this trivial stuff. someone has been reporting me constantly
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i c. I'm not interested in the stars at all. This is the virtual world, unless the stars can be redeemed as money then I'm interested
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Mar 4 2017, 08:01 PM)
i c. I'm not interested in the stars at all. This is the virtual world, unless the stars can be redeemed as money then I'm interested
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Same la. Who cares about stars. If one star is rm10 maybe la...
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:09 PM

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An observation:

For a one and a half year, Ponzi 1.0 went out of favour compared to Ponzi 2.0. Take note that Ponzi 1.0 buys into small and medium cap growth stock in the Asia Pac ex Japan geographical sphere. Whereas Ponzi 2.0 buys into defensive dividend giving stocks in the same region.

Now I see a reversal of fortune, that is, Ponzi 1.0 is coming back into forefront and Ponzi 2.0 is taking a backseat or breather.

What is the deduction from this?

If this trend persist, one can logically deduce that the growth cycle may have started, and risk appetite has improved and this means growth stock will be the coming thematic play. However, I caveat to take a plunge right now. We may have to wait a little while longer to see whether this trend is sustainable or plainly a short term trend.

You heard here first at LYN-FSM thread.

Xuzen
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Bubble A is when the period Ponzi 2.0 outperform Ponzi 1.0. It is also when defensive play was the theme of the day.

Bubbe B is a start of growth?



This post has been edited by xuzen: Mar 4 2017, 08:41 PM
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 4 2017, 08:09 PM)
An observation:

For a one and a half year, Ponzi 1.0 went out of favour compared to Ponzi 2.0. Take note that Ponzi 1.0 buys into small and medium cap growth stock in the Asia Pac ex Japan geographical sphere. Whereas Ponzi 2.0 buys into defensive dividend giving stocks in the same region.

Now I see a reversal of fortune, that is, Ponzi 1.0 is coming back into forefront and Ponzi 2.0 is taking a backseat or breather.

What is the deduction from this?

If this trend persist, one can logically deduce that the growth cycle may have started, and risk appetite has improved and this means growth stock will be the coming thematic play. However, I caveat to take a plunge right now. We may have to wait a little while longer to see whether this trend is sustainable or plainly a short term trend.

You heard here first at LYN-FSM thread.

Xiuzen
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Thanks for the info "Xiuzen" laugh.gif tongue.gif
Saw that. But didn't know why.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 4 2017, 08:19 PM
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 08:16 PM)
Thanks for the info "Xiuzen" laugh.gif tongue.gif
Saw that. But didn't know why.
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post Mar 4 2017, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 08:16 PM)
Thanks for the info "Xiuzen" laugh.gif tongue.gif
Saw that. But didn't know why.
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Maybe there is nothing so deep rooted. It is just the rally before the general election.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 4 2017, 08:36 PM)
Maybe there is nothing so deep rooted. It is just the rally before the general election.
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Your observation is inaccurate.

Ponzi 1.0 has 45% exposure to Malaysia and its 1 year ROI is 29.69% whereas KGF which is 100% Malaysia exposed 1 year ROI is 11.82%.

It cannot be due to the Malaysia component and hence Malaysia general election factor is definitely not a contributor.

Xuzen
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 4 2017, 08:48 PM)
Your observation is inaccurate.

Ponzi 1.0 has 45% exposure to Malaysia and its 1 year ROI is 29.69% whereas KGF which is 100% Malaysia exposed 1 year ROI is 11.82%.

It cannot be due to the Malaysia component and hence Malaysia general election factor is definitely not a contributor.

Xuzen
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There is another factor which we did talk about it earlier, ie ponzi 1.0 has started utilizing its cash.
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(spiderman17 @ Feb 3 2017, 11:32 PM)
Snapshot the portfolio while everything is green green
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One month later...
Gold and general dropped 8%
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 4 2017, 08:09 PM)
An observation:

For a one and a half year, Ponzi 1.0 went out of favour compared to Ponzi 2.0. Take note that Ponzi 1.0 buys into small and medium cap growth stock in the Asia Pac ex Japan geographical sphere. Whereas Ponzi 2.0 buys into defensive dividend giving stocks in the same region.

Now I see a reversal of fortune, that is, Ponzi 1.0 is coming back into forefront and Ponzi 2.0 is taking a backseat or breather.

What is the deduction from this?

If this trend persist, one can logically deduce that the growth cycle may have started, and risk appetite has improved and this means growth stock will be the coming thematic play. However, I caveat to take a plunge right now. We may have to wait a little while longer to see whether this trend is sustainable or plainly a short term trend.

You heard here first at LYN-FSM thread.

Xuzen
Attached Image

Bubble A is when the period Ponzi 2.0 outperform Ponzi 1.0. It is also when defensive play was the theme of the day.

Bubbe B is a start of growth?
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Ding Ding Ding, Buy call from Xuzen! wub.gif drool.gif
whistling.gif But MY GE this year, so with Malaysia a big chunk in the fund..
sweat.gif whistling.gif
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM)
Ding Ding Ding, Buy call from Xuzen!  wub.gif  drool.gif
whistling.gif  But MY GE this year, so with Malaysia a big chunk in the fund..
sweat.gif  whistling.gif
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I also scared when I see how much chuck does Ponzi 1 have in Malaysia.
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post Mar 4 2017, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Mar 4 2017, 09:01 PM)
There is another factor which we did talk about it earlier, ie ponzi 1.0 has started utilizing its cash.
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This sounds more plausible....

QUOTE(woonsc @ Mar 4 2017, 09:39 PM)
Ding Ding Ding, Buy call from Xuzen!  wub.gif   drool.gif
whistling.gif  But MY GE this year, so with Malaysia a big chunk in the fund..
sweat.gif   whistling.gif
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No friend woonsc, it is not a BUY call yet. Stay tune, focus on it, observe it first. Feel its every breathe, its every inhalation and exhalation, but it is not a BUY call..... yet.

In another word, Ponzi 1.0 is now under Algozen™ radar and crosshair, but is not yet time to pull the trigger.

Xuzen

P/s recall that RHB EMB was also under observation from Nov 2016 and only recently I fulled the trigger to participate in this UTF. Patience, my young padawan....

This post has been edited by xuzen: Mar 4 2017, 10:05 PM
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post Mar 4 2017, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 4 2017, 09:46 PM)
I also scared when I see how much chuck does Ponzi 1 have in Malaysia.
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tongue.gif it's unsure, what will happen to either scenario during the election..

QUOTE(xuzen @ Mar 4 2017, 09:51 PM)
This sounds more plausible....
No friend woonsc, it is not a BUY call yet. Stay tune, focus on it, observe it first. Feel its every breathe, its every inhalation and exhalation, but it is not a BUY call..... yet.

In another word, Ponzi 1.0 is now under Algozen™ radar and crosshair, but is not yet time to pull the trigger.

Xuzen
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Btw why not invest in CIMB-PRINCIPAL ASIA PACIFIC DYNAMIC INCOME FUND - MYR ?

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