*just wana comment abit, busy doing something*

Thanks for the answer

You have any suggestion for other car (below 80k)?
Is it ok to go for used car for first car?

Yeah, I know what you mean. After going 300kmh on my Bugatti slowing down to 140kmh feels like standstill

A good city runner would be a car like Mitsubishi Mirage, however they axed that model.
Probably good for them as the A-segment seems to be hotting up lately with many new models as buying power decrease you can see top range A-segments now with C-segment features like USB charging, Ipod/USB input for music, bluetooth connection for phones, sophisticated engine technology like Dual VVTI (previously manufacturers just dumb down their C-segment engine or update an older and smaller engine to current emission standards), and stability control.

Don't say A-segment previously not many B-segments had this, the most popular car in Malaysia didn't have stability control until the model they're about to launch.

The new Persona and Iriz are B-segment cars from Proton however interior space for me feels A-segment in terms of build quality, looks and space. The rear seating space can be said to be large if you compare to cars like Honda CRZ or BMW Mini, else even comparing against the older Vios it is small, don't say lah updated B's like City and Almera.

You might be tempted for the new Persona, Saga and Bezza. However, unless you really wanna take the risk I'd suggest you either wait awhile so the waiting period is shorter and white rat owners complain and manufacturers fix teething problems.

Nowadays 80k is pretty much no man's land.

Mid-spec B's like City and Vios are around 85k ++
Entry level B's by the time you get to OTR price would be nearing or slightly beyond 80k

http://m.mudah.my/view?ca=9_3_s&cg=1020&mk...&ad_id=48577627

Saw this camry, seems to good to be true ?

Beware of this shop.I think got 1 forummer kena con by this shop before

said forumer was not me.... BUT i have personally been to this shop years ago.... was interested in saga blm's at that time... they had spade loads all in black, all selling for below market value at that time... they advertised as, accident free+low mileage, great deal right? yeah.... we (me n my dad) found that all 6(or 7) units we viewed at that time were accident vehicles... some pretty well covered up.

When questioned, they said yeah accident free. viewed the cars, looked great on the outside, but upon closer inspection, radiator mounts not 100% straight, rear section under the covers crushed slightly, bumper bars under the bumper bent, signs of putty repair. pointed the damage out to the salesman and would answer, 'ohh boss yang kata xde accident, i xtau, xpe ade banyak lagi' ...... Dont know if i trusted them very much after the 3rd time he said that.. not even sure if the milage was genuine at that point. If you want to view positively, on the plus side they did admit all cars were resprayed and that was why all were black. Cannot say if this is still their practice as i have mentioned last time i visited was a long time ago (at least 4-5 years).

True and I had visited them couple of years back...they tend to always advertise below "market rate".

When I wanted to test drive, they said, I need put a deposit first, when I asked them would they return back, I cant remember exactly his answer, but it was not to my satisfactory. I had visited couple of times, and was really interested in the car...sigh!

Since then, it was a no no to me

Any recommendation?

1. Brand : smart forfour
2. Budget : about 15K
3. New/Used/Unreg : used

worth to buy?

mechanically the engine itself is relatively easy to maintain.... its a basic mitsu anyway. wear and tear also ok... (not sure bout drive shafts tho)... just keep in mind that, the body panels, trim might cost alot more (assuming you want to refurbish it), frankly speaking would not get that if you are on a tight budget. if you just like it for what it is and are willing to spend bits here and there on the car, sure go ahead....

Quick question, how to properly test a car during test drive? My friend offer me his Wira 1.6 XLi, 4 Speed AT(?) not sure but his speedo can go to 240km, I drive feels fine no nasty vibration during high speed or in D when a stop. Basically what to look out for?

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Sep 29 2016, 11:21 PM

best to avoid such scum.

pretty decent car and age for that price.
though the ones in better condition with the higher range 1600cc engine would be nearing 20k

i agree with this assessment.
it is one of those cars where there is no performance, but is relatively cheap to maintain, and relatively decent brand.
for someone that wants something different on the road but isn't going to pay am arm and leg for it, maybe just a few fingers.

Wira 1.6xli is a good car.
So you're assessing a Ferrari?
Why you need to do high speed test?

Drivetrain assessment can be done from 20-60kmh.
Look out for weird jerks during gear shifts.
Make sure your route has turns, speed bumps, and a long straight.
You can assess the gears going up smoothly, then up down shifts during corners, and quick downshifts when aproaching speed bumps.

Yeah, the original Perdana is fine.
More Mitsu parts in it's design.
Pv6 is where more Proton parts and corners were cut.

hahaha...just to share...

I used to own a wira 1.6 manual for 13 years...easily one of my best local car experience, in terms of reliability, suspension, performance and pretty economical at 13km/L

I could easily push it to 200kmh, max was at 220kmh (standard engine, with Porting and polishing)

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Sep 30 2016, 02:21 PM

different eyes, I guess

How about Sonata or Optima? for that budget, then?

well nicer cars would cost more (obviously the demand of a better/prettier car would be higher)

why dont you give me a few examples of nice cars....? might be useful in this case.... need to know whats ur taste like...
some like fiat coupes, some like beetles, some like old beemers and old alfas.

the 10k budger + reliability would be the major limiting factor here... only reliable + somewhat pretty thing i can think of atm is the satria....

mind you these 2 cost alot more to maintain

TBH I rarely drive auto car, I kid you not all my family's car is manual. The Wira is Auto, Auto can downshift by self ka? Or need to put to 2? Noob auto driver here LOL.

What should I do pre test drive? How to check the engine? Or if the drive is good, then engine = good condition? My other friend say just check for leaks when the car is stationery, any white exhaust smoke, ask for full service record(? not sure about this)

Yea that's what I taught too but so far just drove it in city, not yet test drive long distance.

This post has been edited by 5p3ak: Sep 30 2016, 07:07 PM

Hello all, just want an opinion, is a 1st gen mazda 3 2.0 @ rm35k worth it/ok?

Guys, was thinking whether 2nd used madza 3/6 yr 2012-2013 made is reliable and easy to maintenance without burning a big hole in pocket?

the v6 perdana's are exp to maintain and has a pita gearbox, the old 'sei' models are aliright BUT are very old now, most are quite worn....

It is one of the better Proton's out there.
My favorite Proton's which I would buy and restore and collect are just 3.
1. Wira 1.6xli
2. Satria GTI
3. Putra

Other Proton cars don't exist to me, lol!

If converted to Wira SE bodykit looks, it is not bad looking.

Even most decent Putra's are above 10k.
If want Honda only EG's are under 10k even those are in not so great condition.

LOL! yes they down shift on their own.

If the engine bay wasn't cleaned look for signs of oil leaks.
See if the radiator top got any cracks or leaks.
Smoke should be clear, any color white/black would be an issue for exhaust.

depends on what you're looking for.
i suppose you're attracted to it's looks and cheapness?

they aren't hole burners but you'd be paying a premium over owners of Civics and Altis for parts.