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post Oct 5 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Oct 5 2016, 02:16 AM)
Time to look West, but a Conti instead, E90 , cheap & fun to drive in your range of budget

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Cost a bomb to maintain and the car age is definitely more than 8/9 years old.
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post Oct 6 2016, 09:47 AM

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Hey peeps,

I need a car recommendation.

Its like this. My new job requires me to travel from Damansara Utama to Jeram, Kuala Selangor approximately 70km one way, so 140km per day for 5 days work week.

I want a car that is best bang for my buck that is fuel efficient (more km with less petrol usage), low maintenance (car service as my mileage will shoot up like crazy).

To me, it sounds better to buy a new car as the 1-3 years services are covered or 100,000 km covered (whichever earlier).

What are your thoughts? Please give me a recommendation on cars.
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post Oct 6 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(keretaburuk @ Oct 5 2016, 11:56 AM)
Thanks Ism1991 for your reply,

I have no issue to extend my budget a bit, new Axia cost RM35k, but considering its quite high to purchase cash, so I'm opt for different brands.

Satria Neo sounds interesting. Any other car you would think of?
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your budget seems abit.... welll looks like its not really 20k....
(am not sure bout this, but i thought perodua sells their cars on loans~~ u mau bayar cash also they duwan to accept sweat.gif, that is what happened to my aunt 3-4 yrs back, she went all over the place but all wanted to sell WITH a loan...)

a neo for 20k would be an older NON-cps model.. if you can afford it, get a newer, more fun (manual for alot lot more fun) cps unit (around 25-30k from a dealer, pretty sure you can get a decent unit for 25 or so from an owner)
note that, the neo is more of a 'performance' oriented car. It is NOT frugal. It is also an older car so dont find an abused/modified unit if you do go this route.

there is also zenix's favorite goto latio which will do the job. reliable, reasonable maintanance, cheap to buy.
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post Oct 6 2016, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 6 2016, 09:47 AM)
Hey peeps,

I need a car recommendation.

Its like this. My new job requires me to travel from Damansara Utama to Jeram, Kuala Selangor approximately 70km one way, so 140km per day for 5 days work week.

I want a car that is best bang for my buck that is fuel efficient (more km with less petrol usage), low maintenance (car service as my mileage will shoot up like crazy).

To me, it sounds better to buy a new car as the 1-3 years services are covered or 100,000 km covered (whichever earlier).

What are your thoughts? Please give me a recommendation on cars.
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Proton Iriz
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post Oct 6 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 6 2016, 10:27 AM)
your budget seems abit.... welll looks like its not really 20k....
(am not sure bout this, but i thought perodua sells their cars on loans~~ u mau bayar cash also they duwan to accept  sweat.gif, that is what happened to my aunt 3-4 yrs back, she went all over the place but all wanted to sell WITH a loan...)

a neo for 20k would be an older NON-cps model.. if you can afford it, get a newer, more fun (manual for alot lot more fun) cps unit (around 25-30k from a dealer, pretty sure you can get a decent unit for 25 or so from an owner)
note that, the neo is more of a 'performance' oriented car. It is NOT frugal. It is also an older car so dont find an abused/modified unit if you do go this route.

there is also zenix's favorite goto latio which will do the job. reliable, reasonable maintanance, cheap to buy.
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Hahaha that's what I said I have no issue to extend my budget, but considering I'm buying liability in cash, so I hope to find it really worth it.

Latio is a good choice, I thought of this earlier no wonder the price tak jatuh. I'll take a look on that options too.

Thanks!
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post Oct 7 2016, 12:01 AM

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hello car sifu here,

im just finish getting my car license and looking for my first car. Currently there are 2 choice. First kelisa, second persona old model ( Persona elegance). But im more toward kelisa. Anyone have experience using this car? and what is the standard price for used kelisa? below 8k consider okay or not?..or too cheap to be true?. I didnt have wide knowledge about car..scared later buy used car need to fork out alot of money to repair.. cry.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 07:08 AM

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Hi guys... Thinking of getting 2nd hand car... Below is my choice

1. Brand : Axia, saga flx or myvi
2. Budget : below 30k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used (2013 n higher)
4. Specs : N/A
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Sedan/hatchback
8. Remarks : Looking for cheap maintainance

I prefer 2nd hand because this is not my primary car..saga flx is cheap but afraid about proton reliability n their maintainance is more expensive than perodua I think...
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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 6 2016, 04:51 PM)
Proton Iriz
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Why Iriz? Why not pay a bit more for persona then?

This post has been edited by BacktoBasics: Oct 7 2016, 09:28 AM
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post Oct 7 2016, 10:12 AM

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Is it wise to buy a 2015 second hand polo or are they all rife with problems?
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post Oct 7 2016, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(wokies @ Oct 7 2016, 12:01 AM)
hello car sifu here,

im just finish getting my car license and looking for my first car. Currently there are 2 choice. First kelisa, second persona old model ( Persona elegance). But im more toward kelisa. Anyone have experience using this car? and what is the standard price for used kelisa? below 8k consider okay or not?..or too cheap to be true?. I didnt have wide knowledge about car..scared later buy used car need to fork out alot of money to repair.. cry.gif
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car prices are never fixed...


QUOTE(backislan @ Oct 7 2016, 07:08 AM)
Hi guys... Thinking of getting 2nd hand car... Below is my choice

1. Brand : Axia,  saga flx or myvi
2. Budget : below 30k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used (2013 n higher)
4. Specs : N/A
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : Sedan/hatchback
8. Remarks : Looking for cheap maintainance

I prefer 2nd hand because this is not my primary car..saga flx is cheap but afraid about proton reliability n their maintainance  is more expensive than perodua I think...
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-taking into account only new sc part costs, proton is cheaper than perodua.... and proton isnt like they used to be back then, the newer models are actually quite reliable. The only part on the flx that can cost more to maintain on the flx would be the cvt.


QUOTE(mandarinoriental @ Oct 7 2016, 10:12 AM)
Is it wise to buy a 2015 second hand polo or are they all rife with problems?
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well..... which model, which variant?
if its the 1.4 with the dsg, let me ask you this...
1)do like to gamble or play russian roulette?
- yes, this car is for you.
- no, resume to no2
2)are you in love with this particular model and have some savings in event things do go wrong?
- yes, well go ahead,
- no... stay the hell away.

if its the 1.6, well... reliability is alright i guess... but its nothing special in this configuration...
typical gearbox, typical engine. Nothing special, no dif from any other car out there BUT comes with the euro maintenance costs.
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post Oct 7 2016, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 09:27 AM)
Why Iriz? Why not pay a bit more for persona then?
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pay more?? nono, spec for spec... actually the persona is cheaper.... whistling.gif

comparing these 2 cars new, IMHO iriz is only a good choice if you get a relatively new used unit. Incredibly silly (maybe even stupid) to get a new iriz. Go compare specs and prices, persona is just better value but only looses in 2 aspects.
1) its more difficult to park (then again if u cannot park this car, please get off the roads)
2) roadtax as the iriz is available with a 1.3 (if you cannot afford the 1.6 roadtax, pls dont even consider buying a new car)

the persona is basically a updated iriz with a lower pricetag and a bigger buntut

my 2 sen~ rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 09:27 AM)
Why Iriz? Why not pay a bit more for persona then?
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I recommended Iriz based on your profile picture, Iriz matches well with girls lol
What is your budget actually?
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post Oct 7 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 11:40 AM)
pay more?? nono, spec for spec... actually the persona is cheaper....  whistling.gif

comparing these 2 cars new, IMHO iriz is only a good choice if you get a relatively new used unit. Incredibly silly (maybe even stupid) to get a new iriz. Go compare specs and prices, persona is just better value but only looses in 2 aspects.
1) its more difficult to park (then again if u cannot park this car, please get off the roads)
2) roadtax as the iriz is available with a 1.3 (if you cannot afford the 1.6 roadtax, pls dont even consider buying a new car)

the persona is basically a updated iriz with a lower pricetag and a bigger buntut

my 2 sen~  rolleyes.gif
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Thats what I thought too. When I saw, he/ she recommended me Iriz, I find it weird.

Just to be clear, parking no issues & road tax about RM90 per year are nitty gritties costs of owning a car. My concern is I dont care about brand name of the car, I just want best bang for my buck. Is 1.6 litre fuel efficient? And I heard the tires of Persona is so small compared to the big body frame.. Looks weird?

What is your take on this? What about the new 2016 Proton Saga? So much cheapper. But how does it fare with Persona?
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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 7 2016, 11:59 AM)
I recommended Iriz based on your profile picture, Iriz matches well with girls lol
What is your budget actually?
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I am a dude. Maybe I should change my profile pic. Hahaha. Sorry for the confusion.

My budget? I will put it at 50k but I want to keep it as cheap as possible. I dont care how people view me. I dont need a fancy car to show status or how financially well I am (which I am not).


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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 12:10 PM)
I am a dude. Maybe I should change my profile pic. Hahaha. Sorry for the confusion.

My budget? I will put it at 50k but I want to keep it as cheap as possible. I dont care how people view me. I dont need a fancy car to show status or how financially well I am (which I am not).
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haha sorry for my assumption too, If a new car the new persona should be a good choice, i`m not sure if the three years free service promotion still valid tho.

If second hand, maybe Proton Preve, but the fuel consumption seems higher than new persona.

just my opinion bro smile.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 7 2016, 12:19 PM)
haha sorry for my assumption too, If a new car the new persona should be a good choice, i`m not sure if the three years free service promotion still valid tho.

If second hand, maybe Proton Preve, but the fuel consumption seems higher than new persona.

just my opinion bro smile.gif
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I thnk second hand is almost out of the question as my mileage will be shooting up like crazy as I drive 140km to work per day. So maintenance is a killer in that sense.

Thinking about Saga or Persona or Myvi. I am no car enthusiast but does a 1.3 car and a 1.6 car make a difference? More power i know but it also consume more fuel right?

I am driving long distance. So any thoughts?
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 11:30 AM)
car prices are never fixed...

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but then when i search into mudah.my for used kelisa, i found that even for same years, let say 2006, the price differ alot.. starting from 7k until 15k..how this could be? engine damage need to fork out alot of money for kelisa?..that why people sold it cheap to used car dealer?
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QUOTE(wokies @ Oct 7 2016, 12:47 PM)
but then when i search into mudah.my for used kelisa, i found that even for same years, let say 2006, the price differ alot.. starting from 7k  until 15k..how this could be? engine damage need to fork out alot of money for kelisa?..that why people sold it cheap to used car dealer?
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dif variants, diferent conditions, and diferent sellers... sold by shop, they need a cut, some owners feel that their cars are worth alot..... hence a much higher pricetag but down the road they cant sell it and only readjust much further but by then the car has further devalued. (< i smell a grammatical error there)
*my own car was one of them, previous owner offered it at xxxxx but called me up again after a few months offering it to my for 1/2 the initial offer (no you read correctly, half!!!!!)
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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 12:31 PM)
I thnk second hand is almost out of the question as my mileage will be shooting up like crazy as I drive 140km to work per day. So maintenance is a killer in that sense.

Thinking about Saga or Persona or Myvi. I am no car enthusiast but does a 1.3 car and a 1.6 car make a difference? More power i know but it also consume more fuel right?

I am driving long distance. So any thoughts?
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that little bit is not true...... myvi 1.0 bs myvi 1.5, the 1.5 uses less fuel in most scenarios. bigger cc but you have the torque and power to push the car with less revs. Its very complicated....

the new potongs seem to offer good milage... especially good if you drive with a feather foot. Its also seems relatively decent long distance BUT its not as stable or as spacious as the previous persona... (old persona is much larger and in my opinion nicer to hammer corners with, stability wise)

one note tho, given the mialge you clock... u might wana find a car that offers unlimited mileage warranty.
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QUOTE(meowsifu @ Oct 4 2016, 02:52 PM)
yup... i am still studying before nail down actually. balance will be mers?  do advise. tq
oh ya anyone can advise about the fuel consumption?
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QUOTE(keretaburuk @ Oct 4 2016, 05:11 PM)
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I don't think you can get a new Axis for under 20k and Hyundai's generally aren't great thus choosing the cheaper ones like the i10 would feel like utter crap.

2006 Ford Lynx RS 2.0 - so what about a fun second car? if the usage isn't going to clock many miles on it then you can consider something like this. Of course the parts can be expensive for Ford's but if it is for low mileage usage like wife going to pasar everyday then only on weekends you have a little fun with it then that's fine as regular maintenance won't hurt you. The attraction is of course a sort of legendary car in our motor scene.

2012 Perodua Myvi - if you're looking for something newer and cheaper to maintain yet boring then of course you can buy a Myvi, the spiritual brother of the Vios. Nuff said.

QUOTE(hbgoh57 @ Oct 4 2016, 06:12 PM)
How is the 8th gen accord 2.0 which runs on the same engine/gearbox as the current gen accord in terms of maintenance?anything to be wary of regarding this model?
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It has been around for two generations, it must be good, yeah? laugh.gif

From a manufacturers stand point they will only keep recycling the engine if it is economically viable after taking into consideration production cost, can keep up with current/future emissions standards, and if there are any design flaws.

Previously Honda used the K20 engine across it's range from Civic to Accord to CRV to Stream, etc.
There wasn't much design flaws and extracting power from it wasn't an issue.
However, it couldn't keep up with emission standards while at the same time being fuel efficient and powerful.
Which is why they switched to the R18 and R20 engines which were.

QUOTE(5p3ak @ Oct 4 2016, 08:13 PM)
idk I just feel that I can't engine brake with autos  laugh.gif
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they aren't meant to engine brake like a manual.

QUOTE(eric84cool @ Oct 5 2016, 12:10 AM)
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Really depends on what you really want, the usage and your affordability.

Your current City might not be a big upgrade when you buy another City or Jazz, but it would be closer to what you're used to in terms of maintenance cost, however Jazz although new would have drawbacks or advantages being a hatchback, disadvantage is the smaller space, but advantage would be lower tailgate so it is easier to load items into it.

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