http://www.h2ofilter.com.my/usr/pagesub.aspx?pgid=6

ok crop out the meter part, piping still messy.



Why most membrane filters have all these messy pipes because they need to connect the inlet, outlet and backwash which are on the different end of the filter, hence they need a PVC pipe to combine from top to bottom. Why they have other complex piping and so many valves bcoz they need it for bypass and manual backwash. Hence, the regular membrane filter design will definitely involves a lot of extra PVC piping and valves

As shown in your link
https://76.my/Malaysia/ruyi-life-0-01-uf-ma...-ruyilife@1.jpg

This installation does not have the 4 valves for bypass & backwash yet, the PVC piping is still so ugly compared to mine. If u still think i m bias and your photo looks good and neat, no point talking already bcoz ur main intention is to go against me as usual Haha

I mentioned "Most membrane filters are ugly, NOT ALL" hence i suggest forumers to ASK SELLER to show some samples after installation, like this also bias meh

why not share a photo of your membrane filter installation to share with us

Nice link that u shared weikee, plenty of membrane installation here, you guys can check and compare
http://www.h2ofilter.com.my/usr/pagesub.aspx?pgid=6

One point u said is true also, the meter location will also affect the installation design, my worst installation upto date is this. With our system, you cant c the PVC piping from top to bottom bcoz we have two stainless steel pipe (one piece design, no elbow, no socket) hidden behind of the filter



This post has been edited by zheilwane: May 22 2017, 11:12 AM

I thought there is a separate outdoor filter thread? Haha...
Why all the hassle and complicated pump/valve/piping where you can have very simple in/out & backwash only outdoor filter which is convenient and easy to maintain.

guys, for apartment, any recommendation that I can look into ?

So can I confirm the three companies are LEC, Gen Air and Perfect Steel? All of these are OEM from Alphamax, correct?

anyone using Espring amway ? is my cartridge still okay ? the filter seems like still can continue to use, but pre-filter so dirty cannot be cleaned.





This post has been edited by Pain4UrsinZ: May 21 2017, 01:03 PM

As long as it is not blinking red and beeping, you can still continue to use it.

I will not name them. But OEMs don't do consumer market.

There is no need to clean the pre filter.
When you change the cartridge, it will come with a new pre filter.

As said oyching88, there is no need to clean the pre-filter and when you replace your cartridge, the cartridge comes with the pre-filter.

The pre-filter is dirty because it is effectively removing the sediment in the water. It is not advisable to clean the filter as it will damage the pre-filter, as stated in the FAQ section in this link https://www.amway.my/en/Categories/Home-Liv...Filter/p/100187 . You can also replace the pre-filter if you wish to do so.

On the other hand, may I know how long you have used the cartridge?? Maybe it is time to replace it as we do not want to risk our lives with contaminated water and health is number one priority .

If there is any concerns, feel free to ask.

Regards from a new amway joiner who believes in quality.

For outdoor sand water filter, do you guys install the piping with bypass route so that in case the filter is broken, water still can be flowed in?

why only have few water filter using UV???

any negative effect to us

tq

So far i know only Amway eSpring have the certificate of NSF 55 for UV light to kill up to 140 contaminants in water but remain it mineral in water.

I think you should familiar with something like this right? UV Sterilizer for those hospital operation tools. The UV light in eSpring is exactly the same function as it, to deactivated bacteria & virus before use.


Anything after UV (X rays, Gama ray) will have direct harmful effect to human, sunlight also form of UV rays. For protection, the eSpring cartridge UV lights are shielded in another chamber.


This post has been edited by oyching88: May 24 2017, 01:45 PM

Here is an example, like when we sterilize baby bottle

You can either :
1) Buy a steam sterilizer (most people do as it is affordable)
2) Buy UV sterilizer (expensive and the bulb does not last forever, usually effective period is 1 year)
3) Boil water (cheapest method)

So, why not many filters use UV because they use other method or technology to filter bacteria. UV does not reduce the number of contaminants in water, our main focus is to get rid of the heavy metal, harmful chemical and etc etc which could not be filtered with UV.

Back to the NSF question. A cheap filter RM 300 has NSF standard 42 and 53, an expensive filter RM 3000 also have NSF. So most people will just get the RM 300 filter. Is there a difference between a cheap filter with NSF Vs expensive filter with NSF ? YES, here is a simple test

Tested 5 different brand and model of water filter with highly contaminated water (added copper/rusted screws/chlorine/other chemicals) TDS reading showing 174 x 10 (1740) . After filtration, some readings show 190 and the best is 52 after filtration. All filters have been air pumped DRY before the test, to prevent mixing with clean water in the filter.

Why 4 filters with NSF but have different test results? Lowest 56 and highest 193 ? Answer is the CARBON BLOCK quality and filtration technology
NSF only sets the minimum standard to PASS 42 and 53, it does not rank the water filters or tell us which is a better product. This is similar to my test video, all filters PASS the chlorine drip test, as we are not using a digital tester, we are unable to tell which filter performs better, unlike with the TDS tester, we can compare with the numbers given on the tester

Note : Aquaphor Crystal Eco is tested with LGA and not tested with NSF. This video does not imply NSF or LGA is better. Just to show filters with the same NSF does not mean their performance are the same.



This post has been edited by zheilwane: May 24 2017, 04:03 PM

Guys I'm looking for 3M CTM-01 countertop set, any place I can get around rm300?
Thanks

I was thinking to made a laser cut-out Clear Acrylic for the base or maybe a case... lol

If you can sell me one cheap cheap will be nice

Thanks bros for reply to my original post.
I am undecided on which to change to - my requirement is to have pure filter and no Alkaline / RO.
I read eSpring is actually alkaline water.
3M CTM-01 which costs a few hundree bucks - would it be a downgrade to my current Nesh?

Natural water is mild alkaline with the present of minerals.