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post Jun 22 2015, 12:42 AM, updated 2 months ago

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HEALTH RISKS FROM DRINKING DEMINERALISED WATER
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TLDR (Too Long Didn't Read) | Conclusion from WHO (World Health Organization)


  • Drinking water should contain minimum levels of certain essential minerals (and other components such as carbonates)


  • Demineralised water that has not been remineralized, or low-mineral content water – in the light of the absence or substantial lack of essential minerals in it – is not considered ideal drinking water, and therefore, its regular consumption may not be providing adequate levels of some beneficial nutrients.


  • Sufficient evidence is now available to confirm the health consequences from drinking water deficient in calcium or magnesium.


Source: WHO | World Health Organization

WHAT IS DEMINERALISED WATER
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Demineralised water is water completely free (or almost) of dissolved minerals as a result of one of the following processes:


  • Distillation


  • Deionization


  • Membrane filtration (Reverse Osmosis or Nanofiltration)


  • Electrodyalisis


  • Other Technologies


Source: www.lenntech.com

ASKING FOR WATER TREATMENT SYSTEM / WATER PURIFIER RECOMMENDATION
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1. landed or condo?
2. how many pax in your household?
3. got senior / babies / people with disease like kidney failure for example in the house?
4. can you able to do some small DIY installing yourself or not? (like replacement filter yourself?)
5. how much u afford to installment per month for at least 5 years? 50/mth or 100/mth or 150/mth?
6. or do u prefer 1-time off purchase? below 1k or 2k or 3k?
7. do you own external water filter yet?
8. hot/water function is it a must for you? will you willing to fork out another RM50/mth electricity bill for the feature? or you just stick with thermal pot + fridge cold water?


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post Jun 22 2015, 12:42 AM

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Continue from previous discussion.

QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 19 2015, 12:58 PM)
Aquaphor looks impressive.  I'm in the habit of must boil water before drinking (using Panasonic filter now smile.gif) as I've no confidence in my condo's water quality.  So, is Solo sufficient?. And if I opt for Eco and still boil the water, does that affect level of mineral loss, or basically is that ok?
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QUOTE(SRM2010 @ Jun 19 2015, 01:14 PM)
Bro, may i know any NSF certificate for Aquaphor Crystal Eco?
Thanks.
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QUOTE(d_goh @ Jun 21 2015, 02:11 PM)
NSF is not only limited for USA market.

Coway was a brand from Korea also certified by NSF standards.
Kinetico is selling in France, UK but didn't bother to get certify by LGA even, currently certified by WQA using NSF standards.
Philips (Europe) also certified by WQA using NSF standards.
To get certified under NSF labs is a serious ordeal, NSF test products towards the end of their life span (aged cartridge) for effectiveness. This is why you see some brands just rather get WQA certifications using NSF standards instead of sending it to NSF labs for the actual tests.

In Philips Water filter brochure, it was documented, Certified under NSF-53, NSF-55 by an independent laboratory. 

Even Kinetico, with 35 years experience started to cut some corners, it was certified by NSF labs & WQA labs, now only WQA labs using NSF standards.
I strongly urge everyone to not just look at the standard numbers, but dwell deeper into the reports, what it can really filter, how long is the contaminants list. This is important, make sure VOC, THM, TTHM is in the list, TTHM is one of the major cause of breast cancer!!
Search NSF reports here: (key in brand name or manufacturer name)
http://info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/
Search WQA reports here:
http://www.wqa.org/Find-Products#/
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QUOTE(tohtiengchiah @ Jun 21 2015, 03:52 PM)
Culligan water filters are also tested NSF certified. Go go Culligan !!! It does't cut corners, really affordable but unfortunately many here prefer other brands.
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QUOTE(aku_ker @ Jun 21 2015, 10:02 PM)
Hi is there any promotion for replacement catridge fro 3m -AP-DWS1000.?
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QUOTE(Panaxy3M @ Jun 21 2015, 05:13 PM)
Hi guys
Regarding NSF, i believe the below link will provide a clear pictures for all of us

http://info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/Listing...00&Standard=053

Try to have a look, its a great and directly information to every user and for those buyers who need to know about NSF compliances in 3M water filters!
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 21 2015, 09:55 PM)
I think u misunderstood my reply. AQUAPHOR crystal eco is mainly sold in european market and europeans do recognize LGA that is why they didnt bother to get NSF as it is expensive to get two certifications. While Dwm101 or Morion system is mainly sold in USA and USA customers only know NSF that is why Aquaphor send it in for NSF.

This is similar to accountants in malaysia will get either CPA or ACCA rather than both as companies in malaysia do recognize these two. It would be time consuming and expensive to have both. Some malaysian accountants do have MIA (malaysian institute of accountants) as well. However, if you are in Australia and wanna get a well paid job with only MIA most probably they wont hire you as they would prefer to hire someone with CPA

According to web,
1) kinetico is USA company, definitely they will go for NSF instead LGA
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetico
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post Jun 22 2015, 12:43 AM

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post Jun 22 2015, 04:45 PM

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biggrin.gif After a discussion and research between Aquaphor and 3M , my wife and I decided to go for Aquaphor brand because cheaper and replacement cartridge also cheaper tongue.gif , so far so good and the taste of the water is also ok cause some of the drinking filter i drank have some weird taste.

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post Jun 23 2015, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(MtV @ Jun 22 2015, 04:45 PM)
biggrin.gif  After a discussion and research between Aquaphor and 3M , my wife and I decided to go for Aquaphor brand because cheaper and replacement cartridge also cheaper  tongue.gif , so far so good and the taste of the water is also ok cause some of the drinking filter i drank have some weird taste.
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Thanks smile.gif I believe most members who read through the threads and google on the information, most will get Aquaphor. However, there are also members who told me the thread has too many pages and too much information, they just drop by my showroom to listen to my summary and to try out the taste of Aquaphor Crystal Eco smile.gif


For those who would like to know more info and also to read back the discussions, here is the old thread
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/751269/+2340

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anyone here using the Rubine outdoor filter? Currently thinking to get a membrane outdoor filter. Not sure which brand to get. I only know of Nesh, puregen and Rubine. Appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestion

http://www.rubine.com.my/prodetails.php?pr...UF6029-POE-UPVC
http://www.rubine.com.my/products.php?cate...scate_id=sc8918
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post Jul 8 2015, 10:47 AM

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RO from day 1...

I believe in quality water for me and my (Planted tank shrimp)

so far both is alive and happy... hahaha
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post Jul 8 2015, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(Sieg @ Jul 8 2015, 10:38 AM)
anyone here using the Rubine outdoor filter? Currently thinking to get a membrane outdoor filter. Not sure which brand to get. I only know of Nesh, puregen and Rubine. Appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestion

http://www.rubine.com.my/prodetails.php?pr...UF6029-POE-UPVC
http://www.rubine.com.my/products.php?cate...scate_id=sc8918
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We wouldnt recommend membrane filter but if you are looking for Rubine i can order it for you.
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post Jul 8 2015, 08:51 PM

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Here is something interesting. We have been talking about the spec of water filters, carbon block and etc but how often we get to see what is really inside the filters and how they look like?

Well, a customer asked what is the difference between his regular Carbon Block and Aquaphor's CarbFibre Block, so we cut it out to compare ...

From comparison, we notice that
1) Aquaphor's carbon block seems to be more solid (compressed)

2) Though the diameter looks the same but Aquaphor's one is thicker 1.9cm vs 1.6cm.

3) Aquaphor has Aqualen and Silver to absorb heavy metals and kill bacteria (notice the silver dots?)

Want to know more? Just drop by our showroom to look at the actual thing and also try the filter yourself smile.gif

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Hi, I'm looking for an indoor water filter below 1k cost... can anyone recommend me?
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post Jul 10 2015, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 8 2015, 08:51 PM)
Here is something interesting. We have been talking about the spec of water filters, carbon block and etc but how often we get to see what is really inside the filters and how they look like?

Well, a customer asked what is the difference between his regular Carbon Block and Aquaphor's CarbFibre Block, so we cut it out to compare ...

From comparison, we notice that
1) Aquaphor's carbon block seems to be more solid (compressed)

2) Though the diameter looks the same but Aquaphor's one is thicker 1.9cm vs 1.6cm.

3) Aquaphor has Aqualen and Silver to absorb heavy metals and kill bacteria (notice the silver dots?)

Want to know more? Just drop by our showroom to look at the actual thing and also try the filter yourself smile.gif

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Hi, do your shop accept credit card for payment ?
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post Jul 10 2015, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Jul 10 2015, 09:56 AM)
Hi, do your shop accept credit card for payment ?
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I want to know also - Amex accept or not?
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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Jul 10 2015, 09:56 AM)
Hi, do your shop accept credit card for payment ?
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jul 10 2015, 11:18 AM)
I want to know also - Amex accept or not?
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I help answer.
Visa/Mastercard accepted, but amex not accepted.
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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Jul 10 2015, 09:56 AM)
Hi, do your shop accept credit card for payment ?
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Yes can pay by card bt we dont accept amex
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QUOTE(koinibler @ Jul 10 2015, 06:05 PM)
I help answer.
Visa/Mastercard accepted, but amex not accepted.
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ahah thanks bro smile.gif
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 10 2015, 08:07 PM)
ahah thanks bro smile.gif
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If I want to buy the solo only and need to replace existing kitchen tap, the labour charges also RM150 only ?

Of course will buy new kitchen tap from you.
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hey guys, usually those outdoor filter like frp/ss housing, what are the sand element inside the filter?
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QUOTE(madcow1 @ Jul 11 2015, 02:42 PM)
If I want to buy the solo only and need to replace existing kitchen tap, the labour charges also RM150 only ?

Of course will buy new kitchen tap from you.
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Can PM me your contact? may b u can watsapp me some photos for me to advise smile.gif
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Wow long time didn't come to this thread already, thanks @NightFelix for moving and starting another thead rclxms.gif

QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 20 2015, 04:47 PM)
Aquaphor is from Europe, hence they use European standards and certificates LGA and TUV. Only aquaphor Morion RO system is mainly targeted for USA market has NSF. While Aquaphor crystal eco is mainly for European market hence they use LGA.

It is costly for one brand to have two certifications LGA and NSF but with either one of these it is already good to prove that the filter is as good as it claims to be.

Aquaphor has more than 20 years history in manufacturing high tech water filtration system and it is not a regular OEM brand from china, just do a google search and you will know Aquaphor is among the top brands in water filtration in Russia and several european countries. Aquaphor is available in 35countries (now 36 including malaysia) and has over 70 patents. www.aquaphor.com
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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jun 21 2015, 09:55 PM)
I think u misunderstood my reply. AQUAPHOR crystal eco is mainly sold in european market and europeans do recognize LGA that is why they didnt bother to get NSF as it is expensive to get two certifications. While Dwm101 or Morion system is mainly sold in USA and USA customers only know NSF that is why Aquaphor send it in for NSF.

This is similar to accountants in malaysia will get either CPA or ACCA rather than both as companies in malaysia do recognize these two. It would be time consuming and expensive to have both. Some malaysian accountants do have MIA (malaysian institute of accountants) as well. However, if you are in Australia and wanna get a well paid job with only MIA most probably they wont hire you as they would prefer to hire someone with CPA

According to web,
1) kinetico is USA company, definitely they will go for NSF instead LGA
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetico
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I think you are misleading. NSF is not just for "USA". There is a more fundamental difference, LGA is not water expert nor safety standard, it is just government body, in wellfare, tourism, transport....etc etc...

Take a view on their website and what they do, everyone should know that they are not fit to certify a water filter.


Your statement of making the analogy that CPA vs ACCA = LGA vs NSF is very misleading, saying that as long as it is certified by LGA, it is as good as being certified by NSF. But what experty does LGA has to certify? Where is the test report? What facilities they have to perform the certification?


Diamond and Nesh often include statement that their units are certified by exhibition organizations, misleading people that their products are okay, again what kind of experty does the exhibition organization have to do the certification? This had mislead so many people to buy into their filters mad.gif


Another statement made by you that you said some part of Aquaphor is certified by NSF, not the whole unit.....some part? which part? why not found on their website? doh.gif

I really urge others to do proper study, and LGA is no where close to fit to give "certification" out....pls be a conscience consumer, demand for proof, demand for test report.

The fundamental don't change >>> Where is the test report? show me!

Sorry you really sounds like another diamond and nesh salesman..... doh.gif

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Conclusion:
- RO water cartridge (Why never mention all this while?)
- Manufacturered in Russia (not UK!!)
- Main HQ is in USA (not UK!!)
- The contaminants mentioned in Aquaphor website is longer, but the test report just TDS (Total Dissolved Solids), which RO filter is examined on.
- Bacteria not in the list....
- Viruses not in the list (how to handle virus without UV?)

This post has been edited by fir3man: Jul 12 2015, 11:57 AM
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