Yes, I know about TDS. And I do think the value are all within well acceptable drinking level.

This is the second time you didn't read my post properly before jumping into conclusion. I said tap water is safe to drink AFTER IT WAS FILTERED. If go by your logic, eSpring is not safe to drink from the tap too.

As for the UV, no need to feel threatened by a cheap and affordable RM100 UV filter alternative, you did mention earlier that selling eSpring is just your side income right ? but from the way you protect eSpring all out and jumped up to shoot down any cheaper water purification alternative whenever you see one shows that you are an overzealous full time Amway salesman.

Because eSpring has UV, you tell the forum Chlorine can't kill all micro biological, you silent about the Chlorine disinfection effectiveness just like you silent about 3M C-Complete NSF certification in earlier post. Your post is misleading and very much sales talk. Of course nothing is 100%, but I guess Chlorine can kill 98% of the microbes if not 99% ? Pay RM4K for eSpring just to kill the remaining 1% microbes is overkill. One can boil the water or have cheaper external UV filter for this purpose. After all UV is not a must, any NSF certified filtered water is safe to drink from the tap.

eSpring has its own market for those who are willing to pay for it. You should go after this market segment. Don't mislead consumers who are not keen to pay 3k - 4K for water filter that cheaper machine is not good.

Anyway, I think eSpring is a good water filter but it just way too overpriced because of multi level marketing. Why pay more when one can have safe and clean NSF certified water at 80% less than eSpring price?

Btw, I don't sell water filter, I'm just the end user of Panasonic, eSpring, Elken RO, Culligan IC-Ez-4, 3M in the past and present.

1% microb? Obviously u didn't do any studies.
I just take eSpring as example, Coway have UV too around 50milijoules with older model.

I guess aeiou228 is trying to say since chlorine can kill up to 98%-99% of microb why still need to invest so much until 3-4 k for a water filter where the extra function in there is just a UV light inside to kill the remaining 1%-2% of microb in it.

No, I didn't study about water purification at all and I don't have to, its non of my business. Unlike you, I don't sell water filters to earn a living. It was just mere layman knowledge to counter your sales talk.
Since you claimed to be a learned person with in depth study in water purification, so you tell me, How much microbes can survive from Chlorine disinfection? Does remaining microbes threaten the health and well being of Malaysian water consumers and warrants a UV filter ?
Please don't google and paste a link from the internet, type it with your own words like a learned person.

guess no one can care in a continuous flow of, say 1 liter from a UV sterilised filter yield what result, and makes one wonder, why would someone enjoy pissing water flow from a 3-5k filter.

There is no point to quarrel at here as here just let people to share those things they want to share and ask. Everything with certain price have it value as just like some people willing to buy BMW or BenZ or what compare to Myvi or others. Just they willing to buy and affordable and also the quality. Those things with high price has it value like you cannot use RM1+++ to buy an iPhone as it technology also not cheap. At last, every consumers have their right and choice to choose what they want and affordable, just based on their own budget and requirement then can.

So true...
Totally agreed....

Calm down bro, there was no quarrel here, it was just an argument. Which is good as reader can see more options beside eSpring eSpring and eSpring because too many Amway seller lurking around in this thread looking for potential buyers. I did say eSpring is overpriced but I never say eSpring is a bad product, even one Amway seller here admitted that the con of eSpring is high initial investment in the past few pages. I merely shared some affordable and value for money water filter but eSpring seller was quick to come out to rebuke and doubted these filters as if no other filter is better than eSpring. The ugliest part is when argument points exhausted, this eSpring seller resorted to single line reply with name calling.
I don't like to compare water filter to a car but since you want to compare, then let's compare.
Say, a cheaper Toyota or Honda D segment has a ANCAP 5-star safety rating compare to a more expensive BMW or Mercedes D segment with the same ANCAP 5-star safety rating. In terms of safety aren't Toyota/Honda is more affordable and value for money than BMW/Mercedes? If you want to compare water filter to a vehicle.

It just depends how much the consumer can afford and what they want. Some willing to buy Toyota Honda as it cheaper. Some willing to buy BMW or Mercedes just to enjoy the differences. I believe Toyota Honda sure got different with BMW and Mercedes, BTW i am a girl.

how about blondal?
they have local R&D cater for water in Malaysia
we pointed out other water filter have UV, they said why need UV when the high level of chlorine in Malaysia water already kill all bacteria & viruses?

Most of the water filter can filter chlorine? As chlorine is harm for our health even it can killed bacteria.

Having same organisation conducting the comparison/testing and certification issued is a must if want to use it for argument and comparison. If not every product will say they are the best. Best of the best, very best, etc... Also there are others unseen things like support, network, and company establishment? What happen if the water filter really poison someone or didn't perform as it claimed? Who can we sue?

I see some seller sometime sell car like our beloved waja tagline "Asia's answer to BMW".. If you get what i mean.

Q: They said why need UV when high-level of chlorine in MY water already kill all bacteria & viruses?
A: Because from Point A (Our beloved Gov Jabatan Air) to Point B,C,D,E and so on finally Z (Your home) are gone through many places before your tap coming out the water. Also, bacteria/viruses inhabited in the pipe or tanks.

Totally true. If you all see the pipe from our house so disgusting then you will know it.




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Sis, you've just repeated what I had been posted earlier. There will be people willing to pay for a 4K filter or BMW or Merc. But the point here is that please don't conveniently mislead people that other brands are not up to par as if no other water filter is better than eSpring.

Gee! you want to compare with BMW again. Let me give a more relevant comparison. If you drink eSpring filtered water compare to you drinking 3M/Aquophor/Culligan/Elken filtered water, can you guaranty that you will be healthier and live a longer life with eSpring filtered water ? No, right?

Please don't talk about cars in water filter thread, The closest it can compare to water filter is the ANCAP safety rating. You want to compare leather seat, in car entertainment system, wheel size, engine capacity etc etc in water filter thread? Mod will send you to Bora Bora

I agree with you Bro.

Is is all filter mostly will have the same function?

UV light does not work to eliminate contaminants such as chlorine, heavy metals and VOC
its only effective for treating bacteria and viruses, which already treated by high level of chlorine in Malaysia water
so im just curious how UV help in this sense?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet_g...dal_irradiation