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 [Home Appliances] Water Filter/Purifier Thread V2, Drinking Water Treatment System

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post Jul 23 2016, 11:53 AM

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System like amway is a good for drinking, i saw Tupperware have similar system but never experienced it.

3M so far from my personal experience is also good.

Is all about personal preference.


For direct drinking, i am willing to spend myr 300-500 annual for maintenance. If need to boil, maintenance have to be below 200 for me.

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post Aug 12 2016, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 12 2016, 09:03 PM)
please share model and price for both choices?
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Sorry, i don't see so won't have price for you. My installation was 2011.
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post Sep 24 2016, 09:39 AM

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Not the first time and will not be the last some seller just like to twist and turn. All because they sell the specific products. Buyer need to do own homework and survey.

For drinking water, If have the budget go with amway, 3m also not bad, and I have friend using Tupperware water filter is good too. Especially filters come with proper certifications loke nsf. If want economical there tons of brands out there, and many are oem from the few big factory. Even Panasonic are good.

My mom still using first generation amway uv filters, and I am using for indoor and outdoor.

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post Sep 25 2016, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 25 2016, 08:55 PM)
Does Amway also carry outdoor water filter? Not that I know of...
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Nope, only the drinking water filter. Everyday at my mom house also drinking the water from the first gen Amway UV filter. Earlier day we had to replace the filter very frequent because the outdoor filter really F-up, and outdoor was sand filter, dam lousy and changed 2 brand. After change to membrane filter is so much better.
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post Sep 26 2016, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 26 2016, 12:27 AM)
So is your outdoor filter now is using those membrane type with 0.01 micron? Brands like wateq, hydro1, etc??

I'm also using a membrane 0.01 micron outdoor filter now. So far so good, I think it has been more than 10 years already, have changed the filter few times already. The only issue is that the water pressure is being reduced once it pass through the filter.

I'm looking for a better alternative now.
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Something like that, forgot the brand already. The first few year they came and use chemical wash, after that they didn't call my mom up, its been at least 4 years she never chemical wash, she only do regular back flush.

I find the membrane filter give better pressure compare to the sand filter we had.
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post Sep 26 2016, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 26 2016, 09:07 PM)
btw, lets work out per year cost RM/liter for a filter? Since we got many users from different brands...

We could benchmark with say SeaHorse bottled water at RM0.6 for 1.5L i.e. RM0.4/L.

assuming filters need to replace annually, anyone could please contribute 'annual filtration capacity' and 'price of annual ownership' here?
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I will assume my house use 5L per day drinking water average out inclusive weekend (since most time we not at home) one year 365 x 5L = RM 730 (using 40 cents per L), my 3M indoor is about RM 400 per replacement -ve the boiling, still worth it. I usually change at interval of 14-15 months

While 3M outdoor RM 400 also, and i used lots more, and I usually chance after 18months.

So that work out around RM 50 per month. Still ok for clean water.


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post Sep 26 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 26 2016, 08:58 PM)
These few days many areas no water, thanks to poorly managed Syabas. Today they came to give free water to residence apologetically.

So decided to use TDS meter to test Syabas free (not for sale) RO Water = 6 ppm

Then, open up SeaHorse RO Bottled Water = 1 ppm

During the shortage of water, if without outdoor filter, when the water returns, do wait for it to flush till clear first, otherwise very fast indoor filter clogged up. Anyone had bad experience with that?

We are still light years away when it comes to clean tap water in Malaysia as compared to Singapore. How sad. If only we have bright people in politics and managements.
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When planned water disruption, Syabas will send us note to advice home owner close the main tap, and only switch it on few hours after the water return.
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post Sep 30 2016, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(exsakai @ Sep 30 2016, 06:15 PM)
No backwash function. I install and just leave it there til now, no clogging issue. Zheilwane offered me 1 year warranty against clogging to test it out. Lesson learnt, with our malaysia water quality, we cannot rely on NSF and capacity claimed. My old 3m capacity is rated 2600L but i very sure that i used less than 1000L. That is why i share my experience, hoping other people can be aware of this.
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It depend on area, and water quality. My mom house use sand filter, the amway uv filter clog every 6 months, even change to another brand of sand filter is the same. After change to membrane problem solve. My USJ house i change the 3M External after >1 year, 16-18m depending my mood. I change because is > 1year, not because it clog. My indoor 3M didn't clog after 1 year change because is > 1 year too.
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post Sep 30 2016, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Sep 30 2016, 11:41 AM)
u are saying Aquaphor don't need outdoor filter and even yellowish tap water won't clog it's filters?

then it must have a backwash function, yes?

i am looking for indoor filter with backwash function that can handle the Syabas (shitty water), anyone know of any model that can do that please share.
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Everything filter will eventually clog, is the capacity that maybe higher.

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post Oct 1 2016, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Sep 30 2016, 09:15 PM)
If 6 months clog once, then yearly maintenance gonna cost more than RM 1k, unless you manually clean the filter to unclog it
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Amway filter cannot be clean. That is why changing outdoor filter to membrane are much better option.
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post Oct 1 2016, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Oct 1 2016, 10:40 AM)
by membran do you mean indoor filter? what type of membran? RO?
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My mom house changed to membrane outdoor filter is work far better than the sand filter we had before. I think in Malaysia, is unavoidable to pay tax, toll, and water filter.
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post Oct 1 2016, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Oct 1 2016, 08:23 PM)
Do you have problem where a forumer said earlier there would be no more chlorine after the filter and might cause algae in the water tank?
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Nope, I don't have any problem with it. Didn't really do any measurement. Drinking is via Amway others are mainly washing and bath.
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post Oct 16 2016, 11:27 AM

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http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view...._newsidx=209655

For cuckoo users or future users, beware.

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post Nov 25 2016, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(mist8 @ Nov 25 2016, 10:28 AM)
Thinking to buy either Aquaphor Crystal Eco or Nesh Qoozo.
I've read through some of the posts and found many compliments on zheilwane and the products, hence the confidence.
On the other hand, my friends recommend highly on Nesh Qoozo as they have been using it for 5 years and are happy with the features of that purify, sterilize and deodorize thingy.
So, can anyone give me some kind advice?

Thank you in advance. notworthy.gif
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You in a place where seller is promoting own product, i suggest you also do own surveys. I use amway, and 3m both also good, and bacfree in office. All reputable brand drinking water filter in Malaysia will be ok, unless you buy and used it wrongly like outdoor filter and use it for indoor direct drinking, if the filter doesn't state direct drinking don't use it for direct drink.

Whatever small things like RO, Ozone etc are not significant unless you drinking lots of it. What's most important is the filter are properly tested by reputable organizations. If both price are similar, do you buy a brand with certificate or without? And if say both price are same and have certificate, do you buy the one with a global well known certificate or a not so well known certificate? If you already have a brand favorite, than just choose what you want.

Forgot to add, if company give fake certificates or misleading certificates, no need consider, please skip.

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post Nov 28 2016, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(oyching88 @ Nov 28 2016, 12:04 PM)
Seems you are not familiar with how Amway ABO conduct business. Amway only have 2 type of prices for all products, it's either customer price or member price. If you would like to get member price, you will have to sign up as an ABO, you can also get all benefits of being an ABO(discounts, bonuses, insurance coverage, participate in all events for ABOs etc).
There is no minimal profit or whatsoever "price below member price". There are only few reasons for those "low price",
1) The products are expired or expired soon, or
2) The products warranty validity expired or expired soon, or
3) The ABO stock up (stockist) the products but not able to sell off but willing to loss in order to push out the products, eventually he can't sustain the loss anymore and quit the business & the customer have no one to service.

When buying things, we have to be alert if the deal is too good to be real. In Amway we (not all but at least i am) practice the ethic & professionalism following the rules of conduct.
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Hehe, I know Amway way long, since the 222 time as we used to run a small eatery there. Before the first generation Water filter go EOL, we already stock enough and still enough till now smile.gif

When I mention cost price is a member price, not customer price. Not the cost of manufacture price. If that what you mean, sorry for the confusion.

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post Apr 29 2017, 08:47 AM

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Amway in May will have some trade in old filter promotion. Can go check out the price. My mom replacing 1st gen Amway filter to newer one next month.

Look at your budget, than certificate they have, and if all things equal, get better know brand. E.g. being everything equal, you chooses Panasonic or cuckoo? Or some brand promoted here?
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post May 14 2017, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(zheilwane @ Jul 24 2015, 11:18 AM)
We are the sole distributor for Aquaphor in Malaysia, after sales service, warranty and replacement cartridges are only applicable for those who have our receipt.
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Lucky my 3m and Amway don't have to keep receipt just to buy cartridges... If not, may have to look at people faces to get things.

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post May 15 2017, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ronald_loulan @ May 15 2017, 11:55 AM)
Hi everyone, after some research i plan to buy Amway espring water filter.
Can anyone advise me pro and con of this device?
I saw many ppl selling out their used Espring so im abit concern...
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This month they have trade in old filter, don't know if it apply for other filter. We change the old Amway filter (i think almost 20 years usage) for the current unit. Cartridges will be on the high side. But at least you don't have to keep your receipt to buy consumable.
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post May 16 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ May 16 2017, 11:41 AM)
Basically it clarifies that eSpring is indeed a NSF certified product but the scamming part is the over pricing product for a simple PP+carbon block + uv water filter.

Thanks for the link, I found the product code in China for 3M filters.
With these infos, it helps to search for cheaper replacement 3M cartridges in Taobao. For example, I can save more than RM100 for C-Complete replacement cartridge.
https://world.taobao.com/item/528935850182....0.pVvyCK#detail
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I found 3M filter before in Taobao, but too fishy to buy one....
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post May 16 2017, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(qiuweng @ May 16 2017, 02:16 PM)
Hello.. advise to get additional faucet for your espring, you can put your espring undersink or ok couter Top also.

I have helped few forumners here to fix their eSpring filter.

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Why many (including my mom) retain the base smile.gif

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