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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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AnythingK
post Oct 27 2014, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 10:51 AM)
Sterling can score goals last season, what is happening this season? Why is goals only depended on sturidge ?

to me It goes beyond 'missing' Suarez services
AnythingK, I wish we signed smile.gif but season started. Zero chance of such happening in January. Unless the particular player is sitting n rotting on bench.
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Did you forget that most goals from Sterling last season was tap-in? This season he lack the brilliance and assist from Suarez, Sturridge is injured atm, Coutinho some how lost his magic, so its not a surprise that currently he can't get any tap-in.

And then the same thing with Coutinho, they are having shooting lesson from Suarez, but half way Suarez left liao, so he and Coutinho still finding their shooting boots. laugh.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 11:24 AM

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I was more frustrated that we didn't add another or a proper defensive mid. Personally i think stevie playing that role is not a good idea. For me a DM must be energetic, got lots of stamina, strong character n harsh tackler... Someone who can give a scare to the opponents... Closing them down, tracks back and chases their forwards, provides cover to our shaky CB. like paul tompkins said a 'mascherano type' not 'xabi alonso type'. Gerrard is good at reading games and making key passes but to play as a DM in high tempo english game is a lot to ask for. He has no legs for that anymore... But i'm not suggesting he should be dropped. His presence and leadership on the pitch is extreamly vital right now as there is lot of new faces in the team... Especially with a frustrated 'mad' man up front
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post Oct 27 2014, 11:30 AM

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tbh ur captain is 34yo rite now. shudn't he been reduce to backup role instead of guaranteed starting eleven now? hmm.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Oct 27 2014, 11:30 AM)
tbh ur captain is 34yo rite now. shudn't he been reduce to backup role instead of guaranteed starting eleven now? hmm.gif
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Lampard was playing week in week out at that age. I dont see the problem of Gerard as a guarantee starter but he should be rested at some point.
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post Oct 27 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Oct 27 2014, 10:31 AM)
That is my wish mah..don lar shattered my wish just like that.  cry.gif

If Sturridge can fit for the whole season, then no need reinforce new striker.  laugh.gif

edit: can lar get Cavani and Reus, once we sell Sterling with 70m at Jan, we got the fund liao.  thumbup.gif
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Dude you can have all the money u want but no use...because none of them want to play under Rodgers!

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post Oct 27 2014, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Oct 27 2014, 12:54 PM)
Dude you can have all the money u want but no use...because none of them want to play under Rodgers!
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cool2.gif I like to believe that, though i suspect it's pretty much more about how (good) strikers knows their worth.

Goals win games. Liverpoolfc is not set up that we are suppose to "not-be-depended" on out-and-out strikers. Rodger's "Liverpool" is suppose to have goals to come from all departments or shared responsibly
(well, that's the idea at least)


I highly think our recruitment policy has something the need to "balance-the-books". With an eye on the extension-of-anfield stadium, our club is not exactly sheik oil rich nor Robromvich rich shakehead.gif



As long as we stay black...profitable, a place in europe, much like how [cough-cough] another american owned club (arsenal) is doing. I think (for now) our club will move along in these lines.


trophies? well, Lfc will try to add as it comes.. but in time i guess. sweat.gif



*i know some players cite "A-Manager" is upmost importance where they lay their future careers in clubs they join.
(as how manu fans commented hardly anyone really wanted come to manu and to be under moyes) but i'll give rodgers the benefit of doubt tongue.gif






[edited] cause it was a b**** to type long sentences on tiny phones (earlier)

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post Oct 27 2014, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 01:01 PM)
cool2.gif I like to believe that, though i suspect it prefer much more about how strikers knows their worth.

goals win games. Liverpoolfc is not set up that we are suppose to not be depended on out-and-out strikers. Rodgers Liverpool is suppose to have goals to come from all departments or shared responsibly (that's the idea at least)

I highly think our recruitment policy has to deal much with balance-the-books. With an eye on the extension of anfield, our club is not exactly sheik oil rich nor Robromvich rich  shakehead.gif

As long as we stay black, profitable, a place in europe, much like how cough-cough another american owned club in arsenal is doing. I think (for now) the club will move along in these lines.
trophies? well, Lfc will try to add as it comes.. but in time i guess. sweat.gif
*i know some players cite a manager is upmost importance where they lay their future careers. (as how manu fans commented hardly anyone really wanted come to manu and to be under moyes) but i'll give rodgers the benefit of doubt  tongue.gif
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But currently, the book nowhere near black... sweat.gif

And with the aim to balance the book, you don't spend 20mil (Marko), Lambert (4 mil), Origi (10 mil and loan out), Lovren (20 mil, and nowhere better than Agger) right?

If Liv just spent just like what did previous few year around 30~40 mil in transfer, and sitting at current spot, ok, then expectation of fans won't be too high, but spending >100 mil, people won't expect this kind of poor performance since the season start.
Mind that, it is not one or 2 matches having a blip, but series continously poor performance across.

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post Oct 27 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2014, 02:14 PM)
But currently, the book nowhere near black...  sweat.gif

And with the aim to balance the book, you don't spend 20mil (Marko), Lambert (4 mil), Origi (10 mil and loan out), Lovren (20 mil, and nowhere better than Agger) right?

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Owner philosophy mah, buy cheap young talent, nurture it to become established good player. But........Markovic(not so cheap after all)......Lovren(not so young after all)........ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2014, 02:14 PM)
But currently, the book nowhere near black...  sweat.gif

And with the aim to balance the book, you don't spend 20mil (Marko), Lambert (4 mil), Origi (10 mil and loan out), Lovren (20 mil, and nowhere better than Agger) right?

If Liv just spent just like what did previous few year around 30~40 mil in transfer, and sitting at current spot, ok, then expectation of fans won't be too high, but spending >100 mil, people won't expect this kind of poor performance since the season start.
Mind that, it is not one or 2 matches having a blip, but series continously poor performance across.
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It was not a bad move at least for me during the start of the season as he wouldnt get much game if he joined us. Secured a promising player and he will definitely play more at the current club

I guess it will hurt BR more since we are struggling now.

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What about Ibrahimovic?
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post Oct 27 2014, 05:22 PM

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post Oct 27 2014, 06:36 PM

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Next two EPL games are against Newcastle n Chelsea. Considering Magpies seems to be on the rise, no? (did not watch yesterday game against Spurs) I say it's not a good time to face them. And then you put Real Madrid game in between the two. I don't know what the team will look like coming out of those 3 fixtures. shocking.gif

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post Oct 27 2014, 06:38 PM

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well... i think aim for top half of the table cukup already. top 4 also cannot get la... susah...
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post Oct 27 2014, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Oct 27 2014, 03:14 PM)
But currently, the book nowhere near black...  sweat.gif

And with the aim to balance the book, you don't spend 20mil (Marko), Lambert (4 mil), Origi (10 mil and loan out), Lovren (20 mil, and nowhere better than Agger) right?

If Liv just spent just like what did previous few year around 30~40 mil in transfer, and sitting at current spot, ok, then expectation of fans won't be too high, but spending >100 mil, people won't expect this kind of poor performance since the season start.
Mind that, it is not one or 2 matches having a blip, but series continously poor performance across.
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i guess the owners (FSG) should have keep an eye on how BR spends. Most of us feel BR spotting talents/players are atrocious (i think the list includes appas and many many others) BUT there are those who will say sturridge, courtino are amongst the talents he brought it


We are able to spend that figure is simply because of the size & amount suarez sale. The owners has allocated some funds. Rodgers felt the overall squad is quite weak hence with the money he added to where he felt needed reinforcements to prepare for assault in all fronts (esp now being in europe)

The injury of sturridge is something Rodgers feel wrecked our bite upfront. (hey, some of us reminded us we were banging goals when suarez was not playing for lfc, so sturridge is important striker.

I don't know whats the loaning thing with Origi & couple of others except that the policy buy young (cheap) and hope to make some money selling later. Then again borini (buy) itself was rclxub.gif

But honesty, its not as worse as Roys buys whistling.gif not? tongue.gif
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post Oct 27 2014, 07:02 PM

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post Oct 27 2014, 07:41 PM

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I honestly think BR bought ok. It's unprecedented for Sturridge to be out so long so Ithink that's a major point that needs to be addressed...get another mobile striker...otherwise, if Sturridge was fit, things would be very different i.e. the Spurs game...
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post Oct 27 2014, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Oct 27 2014, 06:43 PM)
I don't know whats the loaning thing with Origi & couple of others except that the policy buy young (cheap) and hope to make some money selling later. Then again borini (buy) itself was  rclxub.gif

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Buying Aspas was more rclxub.gif That thin dude doesnt even look good in youtube. laugh.gif

The major problem of BR transfer is not the player, but the price, 3/4 of it is overpriced. Lovren will be an ok buy if he does not exceed 10m, the same goes to Markovic, and all other overpriced player. As for nurturing young talent and sell it, BR will never be as successful as Wenger in that aspect.

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post Oct 27 2014, 09:37 PM

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To put things into perspective,sod the carling cup tomorrow.Rest important players for the league against newcastle.If the 2nd string team can win then it's only a bonus.
If the club is to make it to the CL knockout stage i think rodgers needs to scrape a draw at the bernabeu and win at home to basel.Then a draw would be sufficient away to ludugorets.All in all at least 5 points.
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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Oct 27 2014, 09:37 PM)
To put things into perspective,sod the carling cup tomorrow.Rest important players for the league against newcastle.If the 2nd string team can win then it's only a bonus.
If the club is to make it to the CL knockout stage i think rodgers needs to scrape a draw at the bernabeu and win at home to basel.Then a draw would be sufficient away to ludugorets.All in all at least 5 points.
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If 100 mil to improve "depth of the team" still cannot win, then we know how deep is the depth. biggrin.gif

Draw at Bernabeu?
BR's record against top team suggested otherwise.



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