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English Clubs Liverpool Kop Talk 2014, Newcastle-1, Liverpool-0

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post Nov 2 2014, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 2 2014, 12:46 PM)
well, can say he panic.
can also say BR tells him to tiki taka his way out of the 6yd box tongue.gif
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I think it comes down to him being used to Spain's slower tempo and more time on the ball.

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post Nov 2 2014, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(Rotuham @ Nov 2 2014, 02:13 AM)
Yup if kenny was still here Downing would be challenging for the balloon d or with messi and ronaldo while liverpool will be resisting heavy money bids for charlie adam from bayern and barca.
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post Nov 2 2014, 02:01 PM

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Talk about Soton, many were impress with their standings now, but I am more impress with their defends.

Only conceded 5 goals after 10 league games, and 2 of their back 4 is new.. Lets just raid their defensive coach. laugh.gif
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post Nov 2 2014, 02:13 PM

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Calm down peeps.. we know it was always gonna be hard without Suarez.. and now without Studj... obviously it'll be worse.

Our Defensive woes were always there, but without the goals to offset the ones we concede, it's even more obvious.

Yes, BR has employed some questionable tactics. Players in the starting line up are questionable.

I'd personally like to see Lallana start more games. Borini up front with Balo..

1 striker just wont cut it.
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post Nov 2 2014, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Nov 2 2014, 02:01 PM)
Talk about Soton, many were impress with their standings now, but I am more impress with their defends.

Only conceded 5 goals after 10 league games, and 2 of their back 4 is new.. Lets just raid their defensive coach.  laugh.gif
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might as else get the main coach. Coz the whole backroom staff has been appalling

On a side note, those beautiful compliments wrote by Suarez in his book suddenly become a distant memory...

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post Nov 2 2014, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Nov 2 2014, 11:55 AM)
What up with King all of the sudden

At least King won us a mickey mouse cup, and nearly won us another kiki lala cup, he nearly made double trophy.

Oh I know both of them have a shit transfer history, but I will not put Carroll in it, cause hes a last min, yea literally last min panic buy.

So yea just wake me up when BR win us a trophy.

Btw, just check on how many times did the team under King hit the woodworks.

Oh and to all the BR fan boi out there, its King who promote and give chance to the youth like Sterling, Kelly, and Flanno from the youth, the capable youth I would say, yea get your facts right before hoo haa and jizzed for BR. BR used them more often is just because of the sole fact of lack of players and funds back then.
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You need a long sleep may be... laugh.gif

You don't win anything with leaking defence.



QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 2 2014, 12:06 PM)
sakho out til end of month.
and i still think lovren is still better...

as for defensive coach...i think if there was one...he would be clashing heads with BR every single day.
its no surprise anymore BR always lets both wingbacks roam up front, and splitting both CB wide with a DM covering the hole between both CB.

a defensive coach would probably want something like a proper flat 4, with 2 DM protecting... tongue.gif
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In 4-3-3 formation, and diamond, you need wingback to provide the width and running up and down the touchline.
If fullback doesn't roaming up, it is easy for opponent to defend a narrow tight centre area. That's what happened last night, have plenty of ball and possession, but no penetration.

In the first half, Liv has about 65% possession, and no single shot on target and Tim Krul basically can have a cup of coffee between his goal post.
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post Nov 2 2014, 03:51 PM

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If rafa has transfer kitty like BR im sure we will be a force in europe again. 4-0 again madrid. Remember?now madrid ayamkan Liverpool...bodoh pnya BR
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Looking at Arsenal...boy none of the players we bought in our 100m spree got the impact of Sanchez. Would rather spend all that money on one player if we'd known it'll turn out like this
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post Nov 2 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Nov 2 2014, 12:09 PM)
Owait Sterling played regularly with KK? fact plz, show me numbers we hit wood work. Coz stats talks here, compare goals we score under BR. OH please dont give me Suarez here and Suarez there if you want to talk about other players. smile.gif

Yep we trained to hit wood work, achievement unlocked *CHING*

Close to win still not a win, there is only 1 winner

People clearly did not read my post properly, dont know what they bubbling about. I said the style of play compared to KK, not whatsover achievement. sigh
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I still remembered at start of season under KK that year, Liv was roaming forward fiercely, and about average 2-3 woodwork per matches.
Many pundit also said Liv was unlucky to win those matches.

Sorry, I don't have the stat, but I did watch those matches, it is the second half season, that Liv spiralling down (in term of performance).

There were many discussion in this forum as well talk joke about wrong shooting practice that aim the woordwork.

I think if you said you like the BR's style of play last season, or second half of first season BR in charge, then no argument.

But if said like BR style of play since this season style, then I would expect bombardment of disagreement. smile.gif

No matter how well was the style is, it is history. It is about the style now that give awful performance that led to the criticism, as well as stubbornness in tactical formation.



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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 2 2014, 03:49 PM)
You need a long sleep may be...  laugh.gif

You don't win anything with leaking defence.
In 4-3-3 formation, and diamond, you need wingback to provide the width and running up and down the touchline.
If fullback doesn't roaming up, it is easy for opponent to defend a narrow tight centre area. That's what happened last night, have plenty of ball and possession, but no penetration.

In the first half, Liv has about 65% possession, and no single shot on target and Tim Krul basically can have a cup of coffee between his goal post.
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reason for full backs to roam up, is to support the wingers when they cut in...if they cut in...which they didnt do much off last night.
so actually the fullbacks didnt need to roam up so high, which johnson didnt do much off anyway...and when he did...he lost the ball doh.gif
moreno on the other side, roamed further up, but that was solely down to obertan getting himself injured freeing up the space needed for him.

from BR's PC, it sounded more like he was playing for a draw anyway...
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 2 2014, 04:29 PM)
reason for full backs to roam up, is to support the wingers when they cut in...if they cut in...which they didnt do much off last night.
so actually the fullbacks didnt need to roam up so high, which johnson didnt do much off anyway...and when he did...he lost the ball  doh.gif
moreno on the other side, roamed further up, but that was solely down to obertan getting himself injured freeing up the space needed for him.

from BR's PC, it sounded more like he was playing for a draw anyway...
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Actually, there is no winger in 4-3-3 system. tongue.gif

The goal conceded was not Johnson fault after all.
There were enough defenders to cover ground vs just 2-3 Newcastle players.
It was a simple defending mistake, a gift actually.

Anyway, it makes little different with 1 point vs 0 point.
You want to well in the league, 3 points is the target for every match, may be only exception when facing top team.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 2 2014, 04:40 PM)
Actually, there is no winger in 4-3-3 system.  tongue.gif

The goal conceded was not Johnson fault after all.
There were enough defenders to cover ground vs just 2-3 Newcastle players.
It was a simple defending mistake, a gift actually.

Anyway, it makes little different with 1 point vs 0 point.
You want to well in the league, 3 points is the target for every match, may be only exception when facing top team.
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technically the 2 wide forwards are wingers.
its not like all 3 up front will stand in front of the box anyway.

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but still yesterday was a mess.
im sure by now everyone has seen the screen grab of balo's touches, with only one in the penalty box...and all his others were everywhere...as always.
its like BR is so hard up in trying to prove that balo is not the player he used to be, by showing that balo can play everywhere...instead of being up front scoring goals...
just like how BR was so proud in declaring that balo actually defended a corner in his debut.
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QUOTE(reehdus @ Nov 2 2014, 03:53 PM)
Looking at Arsenal...boy none of the players we bought in our 100m spree got the impact of Sanchez. Would rather spend all that money on one player if we'd known it'll turn out like this
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That I disagree. Given BR's credibility in coaching and judging from what I have seen in the last 3 years..BR will not do well even with all marquee players he wanted in the team. Of course, that's my opinion.

I rank him slightly above Woy at the moment in terms of managerial capability.
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