Do you all agree with couple have sex b4 married? if like tat the girl dont have virgin already lo..

depends.... someone like it, someone dun...

if ask guys...they sure like.. they no need to think so much lo...if pregnant also not them ma...

Say TAK NAK TO PRE-MARITAL SEX

Say no to pre-marital sex!!!!

i agree!!!!!!!!!!

Say TAK NAK TO PRE-MARITAL SEX +1

i have a g/f too.
but we both dont want

yeah.. countless time.. some people just don't care about their virginity.. we are not kids anymore, should know how to consider the consequences b4 doing something.. u get the fun for the short moments, but u regret for your whole life..

as long as u know u dont get any diseases, it's okay right?

As long as u dont get caught, its ok to steal rite?

came on there are some girls out there love to have sex before marrige.Now days wanna get a virgin girl is very hard.Most girl lost their virgin after age 18 some even ealier due to clubbing!

Your point is?

Others do it so can i, others condemmed in hell so will i.....

sound like you are a crowd follower? what do you personally think?

my gf and i want to have sex but we agreed to wait till marriage, its just 3 years away, not that long

You make it sound like its a crime to have sex. Last i heard having sex isn't a crime.

Sex before marriage is fine unless you're very religious and do not believe in pre-marital sex.

But I do not encourage casual sex, and sex with multiple partners. Let me stress on using protection as well. We asians use to be quite proper till recently, now you can't even use that excuse. Kids these days all have sex at a younger age.

Since there's nothing we can do about that, we can at least educate them on the consequences of doing so.

Thats what i heard...
If pre-marital sex isnt a crime, why would Islam and Christian condemms it?
And why sex with underage is a crime?

i've had sex and ummm.. i guess it's okay if both sides are okay with it. but im not into casual sex tho. i don't wanna get any of them diseases. so far i haven't got anyone pregnant yet. hooray for condoms!

Well, thats their opinion on the matter due to religious doctrine.

The 2nd is just plain wrong since its exploitation but that didn't stop religious ppl from praticing underage sex with girls and then marrying them.

I think we should really keep off the religious stuff.

IMO if the couple are adults and understand the consequences, then by all means. But do use protection.

huh.... wanna talk about sex but don't wanna involve religious stuff? it's all in la...

maturity, religion, upbringing, peers, media...

all these play a part in shaping ur stand.
so how on earth can u say leave that (religion) out?

doesn't mean when a group of ppl crash planes into WTC in the name of jihad the whole islam religion should be condemned right?
don't judge. wanna know more, pick up the al-quran read for yourself before u just spew ignorant comments here. (note; i'm not a muslim)

yalo...no PRE-MARITAL SEX ! not good for girl also...
but thr are still have some girl wan it..do it...i also not understand...

Why u asked anyway?

Because it will turn into RWI, LOL!

Wanna troll? Go back to your cave! Your comment alone illustrates how insensitive you are about Islam and the victims of 9/11. Did my post imply any specific religion in the first place?

Tsk, tsk, please do not tell others to read the Al-Quran until you yourself had read it first.

Don't even get me started on you not being a Muslim.

This post has been edited by Duke Beard: Aug 29 2006, 03:16 PM

o...just curious on how others think on this case.
because i hear my friend say a lot of couple have sex b4 marrige..
and i not so agree with it..

for me if a girl have sex with a guy then the guy must responsible the girl whole life liao... tat is my opinion lo..

What your friend do doesnt mean they are correct..
If u're scared for being called weird for not having pre-marital sex...then dont worry about it..

o.. hehe...

but if a couple have sex is it their relationship will be better than dun have de...
coz a lot of example is better than didt do...
they got a feel like you belong to mine like tat wo... so the relationship will be more stable...

underage sex is crime...coz will u tanggung the baby if u still schooling?...how u want to go to school with big stomact with baby inside..

ya rite...dun involve religious stuff..

aihh sex...who doesnt one...once u tried..for sure want to do more...like masturbate oso

true...but if the guy don want to take the responsiblelity how?..


@ so play at ur own risk...always wear helmet be4 riding a passionate horse

agreed that it will improve the relationship like how a having a child can upgrade a married couple's relationship but people (especially guys) will take advantage of this, have fun then dump the poor girl...

it comes down to why want to have sex in the first place? to have kids? for fun? curious how it feels like? what then? sorry, virgin talking here so my opinion might not be entirely correct

Yes thats the point....So thats why its only encouraged to do it after married..
Unless u can be very sure he/she will be your spouse...which i believe 6/10 would not be...

o..yalo...risk ar...scare ...but i wont try...

There's once,my friend told me,"What you do to females now will have karma on you.Your daughter will bear the consequences.".Thats what normally people say.
Imagine a man treating a daughter like how u treat ur gf now...scares me...

I believe its more like "ppl do it, so whats wrong about it and i can do it too.."

Why do humans ask questions? Becoz they want to know whether its correct or not...
If its correct why would they ask anymore?

all of u who agree with sex before marriage will be burn in hell..burn baby burn.... there r no religions in this world who allows sex before marriage..even if u agree with it u will get ur portion of burning in hell... i donn wan to be in hell...nobody wan.... no matter wat ur religions or belief... if u die before u manage to repent u will be in hell..burn..like roasted chicken in nandos.. yess baby..burnnnnnnn

I dont support yet i dont go against it. But if my girlfriend slept with a few guys before i would be really hurt and i might not be able to accept it..

So?? Does that means other ppl do it to your gf and u cant accept, but u do it to other ppl's gf it ok?
Think about it...how many gfs u've had? If u say sex will bring couple closer, why u need to breakup so many times?

if the couple is committed to each other in their relationship, it doesn't actually matter when then have sex doesn't it? unfortunately, things don't happen that way, best is just to wait

true..true...a lot of my frens went 4 clubbing and end up uhmm..u know what i am trying to tell!

hmm... either those guys have really sweet lips or the girl is too gullible and immature...

but i don't know why in the world would people think that girls sleeping around is dirty nd cheap but guys sleeping around is normal... so biased...

its up to you.. tepuk dada tanya selera.. if you think its wrong and you still do it, then that really shows alot about ur character..

girls tend to get infections. hence "dirty". u don't wanna f*ck a girl who f*cks around. who knows, u might get herpes.

ofcourse la.. and maybe you'll find one that is not even an actual girl

and you think guys are clean? guys are carriers to a lot of STDs...
then you'd better be a good boy cos i don't think girls want to let a guy who f*cks around f*ck her as well

This post has been edited by kenji1903: Aug 29 2006, 05:17 PM

when u put it in that context, probably. but think about it this way, it's from MY point of view as a MAN. so i think girls who f*ck around are dirty and cheap. but i also think that this is just also a matter of opinion. so it's irrelevant really. pointing fingers never does any good.

anyway, that's from my side, let's ask the girls and hear they have to say about playboys. i rarely hear the word "cheap" being used for guys tho.

I think the word "cheap" refers to girls are like "toilet bowls" that guy piss on..
Your a guy, pissing into a toilet bowl, u wont be dirty but the bowl will be dirty becoz of your pee....get the idea??
Its just a wrong concept...actually both men and women should be the same...

desire dude desire to know....hahahaha...
dun f**k ur gf...go and find chickz that f**kable...lol


fair and square...what u did u get back..

CONDOM...whats the perpose of it

why been thru be4 hah dude?...pengalaman mengajar erti hidup yah?

Having sex b4 marriage is OK by me as long as couples take measures to protect each other....

As for virgin or not virgin IMHO I don't personally care... coz in this world virginity is fleeting and is not what marriage is all about! Marriage is a union of two people who love and care for each other not love virginity...

Example my best friend uncommon for a guy at this day and age he is a virgin and his GF is not, she had several prior relationships. Instead of pop cherries he got his rambutan's and banana plucked For him it doesn't matter the status of her virginity, he isn't in love with an intact hymen

Anyway he loves this girl so much he decided to marry her last month. It's safe to say pre-marital sex and virginity is mind over matter, if you don't mind is doesn't matter.

BTW I'm the same, it doesn't matter to me if my GF hymen intact or not. I'm still planning our future's together


edit: Not all guys are out to screw girls or ONS so don't generalize nor are girls that lost their virginity nymphomaniac's.

This post has been edited by aaronpang: Aug 29 2006, 05:57 PM

I vote NO for pre-marital sex!!!

Same,I think guys or girls who goes around and f**k around are dirty and cheap.I wouldnt want to be with a girl who f**k around but i wouldnt mind if she's not a virgin because she did with her ex,as long as she dont find him for more sex after they broke up.

I wouldnt want to do it till im married after doing some research in this topic for my LAN.

These are some of the links i used last time,especially after i read the second link.
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/whywait.html
http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/sex/articles/wolves.html
http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/safesex.html



This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 29 2006, 06:38 PM

when u said F*cking around.....ofcoz that's cheap...sounds like prostitute.

but if onli did it wit one or 2 ex- then is ok la...not every1 will b successfully marry later rite....

yeah, i don't mind if the girl i have is not a virgin. it's not really an issue. just as long as she doesn't f*ck around lol!

my advise to the single gals out there...
keep your virginity ! its your priceless asset!
And there are chances your prince might turns out to be thief... someone who only steals others virginity and have sex as some cheap thrills.

There is nothing to be lose on the guys side. But for a gal, its a huge big thing.
If u have unprotected sex, you might end up with some sexual disease...
or end up with unwanted babies.

so, hold on.... no matter what, dont give in.

Yes and No...

If you are ready to commit, its okay to IMO..
If you are not ready yet, then think twice about it..

If you are doing it with someone you love (and of course he/she loves you too in return.. not ONS), whats wrong about it...
But if its with stranger, really no comment cos its neither right or wrong... just feel that its un-ethical...

yeah, n summore baby is such a big burden...not like puppies, easily can sell away

ermmm u guys even heard of good sex life
will help to maintain a stable n healty relationship?

well do u guys want ur wiffy/hubby to b good in bed?

Ill try to not include any religion perspective and I appologise if I offend anyone. But this is my views.
We humans are at higher status than other living forms on earth. We could think, unlike other organisms.
Say, if people say sex is a thing that we can do when we want to do without any proper way(marriege) arent we just as same as animals?
Well sex is a divine well not divine..what is the word...ive forgotten but something to remember forever. It's makes to relations stronger and it bonds humans. Instead of making it like a normal thing why not cherish it in a way which you value it like marriege.
And like somebody say before this, if you are commited to someone than you can secks her or him. If you ARE really commited with each other why not marry her or him?
Sex is nothing without true love. It's only a desire.

This post has been edited by Imaizumi: Aug 30 2006, 07:39 PM

LMAO thats so funny.....
Why dont u marry a hooker then?
I bet they have marvelous experience....

have sex before marriage - someone's gonna end up hurt in the process...high chances - if the partner you had sex with....you realli love that person, and the person din end up with you after all in marriage ultimately - heartbreaks along the way then

or you found someone new you so dearly love, a person you would want to spend a lifetime with, a person whom you finally got married to.....that you wish you had preserve your virginity for that person

and lastly, having sex before marriage - creates unwanted physical bond between you and your partner - could result in you guys stayin' together not so much cos' of you guys love each other, but cos' of the physical bond.....

some people feel committed to a relationship, just cos' they've committed themselves physically even if they know it's foolish, they can't help it....
unless for guys who're care free and those who doesn't want to be bogged down by responsbilities, those who're just lookin' to sleep around and stuffs

you get the idea.

Yet we human can screw up more than any living organism in this planet.

Human or animal, sex matter is the same. the cotinuation of life. but what difference us from animal is human have intelligent mind to make logical decision to control our lust / desire.

with our society's way of life, sex before marriage is a common thing. try to ask around and see how many of your friend is a virgin.

Again how many can actually control themself?

Hi all, sex is also a good from of exercise. If you don't have sex, then you masturbate. There's nothing wrong with both. But sex is more fun.

Don't listen to those people with houlier than thou attitude. All they do is bash you for doing something that's completely normal and a natural expression of human desire.

So girls and guys, let's have more sex!



Dogbert ~ The best personal trainer on Earth

Nothing wrong with having sex before marriage... Be more open minded la.

its okay if that partner is the right guy.
Ever heard of girls end up being single mom ? girls having to face the issue of giving birth to unwanted child ?

Its sound easy for you, probably because you and your circles of friends are all responsibles peoples.

But, remember, the world out there consist of a lot of people who act without thinking of consequence.

A lot have sex before marriage, and end up having a baby. And because of that, they had to get married. After one or two years, they realized they are not compatible and end up divorced.

see the pattern ?

Hello,

One should always use a condom for safe sex. It is utterly irresponsible otherwise.
Although condom is 97% effective, it's still a good method to avoid unwanted pregnancy/std etc.

So, happy making love, but remember safety first!



Dogbert ~ The best personal trainer on Earth

Sex is pure lust. Aside from generating next generation, it causes a lot troubles. So many social issues related to it. If it is not that serious, society would have been better, and advancements are faster.

oral sex is ok.....but keep ur sex off of Camera...!!!

Yes, we should all be monks and live a life of celibacy. By your argument, a society with the most celibates would be the most technologically innovative and developed. Tibet is a real shithole. Your points are without substance, but full of empty biased opinions.
And we all know opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.



Dogbert ~ Sex Guru Extraodinaire

Better not to do it lah.. Say no to premarital sex... it coz lotz of bad consequences, mostly to galz.. If dat gal got pregnant, guys juz blah....they wont b responsible 4 wat dey did.... Also used 2b happenened dat sum gals were murdered coz of dat..Then come to abortion n others... Its realy bad man... Does d advancement of technology hav turn our ppl 2 lose their morality?damn man...its like livin in such an uncivilize world..

what do open minded have anyting to do with having sex before marriage

we open our mind to accept something good... so we can make ourself better... and more valuable...

oohhh... i forgot... u r the kind of ppl that think having sex b4 marrieage is good...

say what... the girl u married was having sex with other guy b4... and that guy was great... but u r so lousy when having sex with her...

of course she will stay with u bcoz she love u... be she will keep thinking abt the exp she had b4...

not all girl who go clubbing are like what you said...

haha.. u are one funny person.. ooo plz dont talk about religion here.. sex is the act of affection believe it or not.. maybe some ppl misuse it.. wat if u dont attached in any religion.. i mean if ur religion does not allow u.. and u believe tht it is worth waiting then dont it.. but when it comes to others i think u shouldnt be tht judgemental.. i dont do pre-marital sex too now but if there is someone that is right i dont think i mind.. as long as it is safe sex.. well let's be factual that some marriages fell apart because of their sex life.. naivete is sooo last century...

haha.. then at least tht girl know what she's missing..

There you go Lizzie! Safe sex is the way.

This komeng guy lives in the 21st century but has a mentality of the 18th century.
All he does is curse you to hell because he thinks he's better than you, no explanation given whatsoever for his stand on something. You disagree with him, you burn in hell.

You are so blinded by your faith that you don't know which way is up.
Your assumptions about other religions are ludricous. You make a sweeping statement about all other religions without knowing what they are.

You are a monument of bullshit. People like you are a waste of air.

This post has been edited by dogbert: Sep 3 2006, 01:46 PM

Religion is for guidance. It really depends on yourself. I agree with you dogbert.

True,religion is just a guidance not a must for the way you live your life.Just dont bring religion into the topic pls.I dont like to talk about these things.

religion or no religion...havin' sex before marriage is wrong.........

our self conscious are there....unless we choose to ignore it

otherwise, the guilt feelin' won't be there everytime you've committed sexual intercourse.....

there's a lot of my friends who've feedback......yeap, who not feels guilt after doin' it....

we only feel guilt after doin' wrong thing....that's what's in built in us, the ability to differentiate right and wrong.....no doubt about it

....

IMO, make sure you don't regret and don't complain around in future. You choose to take the risk and you should get yourself prepared to pay for it.

u have your point. it does sound biased. But i didnt say anything about me doing it to other girl is ok but not vice versa. Personally when i actually do it to her i would take full responsibility and i would actually have planned on marrying her. But if the relationship doesnt work out at the end i really cant help it right..cuz i know definately would have done my best already.

I can't believe I found this thread here while doing my research/informations about Premarital sex for Moral Studies assignment. *credits to threadstarter*

Anyway, as for my point of view, I don't think it's wrong to have sex before marriage. It's a very common thing in this world nowadays, even if you don't agree with it, people might think like, "aiyeh, you so traditional/old one!" Right? Some of them will also have this opinion, have sex before marriage can maintain a relationship, is it true?

I've no idea, how do you think?

Take note of this....What everybody is doing and what is common is not always right.

I absolutely doesnt agree pre-marital sex can maintain a GOOD relationship...well if u just talking about maintaining, maybe yes....
Maintening i mean is more towards girl thinking..."i cant breakup becoz i gave u my body".
Unless those ppl who says pre-marital sex is NO PROBLEM...

Oh another way of thinking is.....Why must use SEX to maintain relationship?
Love is "I love you" or is it "I SEX (f***) you"???
Or is it "I love you becoz i love u" or is it "I love u becoz i have sex with u" ??

This post has been edited by WaCKy-Angel: Sep 4 2006, 09:13 AM

If you really love someone, you'll willingly give your body to the person. What happens after that is how the person treat you in return. If it's unfavorable, you can't blame anybody for your own action. You need to be responsible for your action.

Yes, religion is a guidance. Pre-maritial sex is not totally wrong, it depends on how you interpret it.

So why not wait until after married?

lol
this kinda discussion
find it useless
since premarital sex is so common nowadays especially in big city like KL...
those younger tots really different
like example, my fren work as beautician at KL
all her colleauges, i mean ALL, around 6 ~10 person
age all below 22, just few older
non of them is virgin
so, how many couple left, at this kinda era, still left virginity till the marriage?

the discussion won't bring to a result n conclusion,
coz
no 1 bring it up to parents n our ministry to educate the young generation how to face this kinda serious problem

who actually make a decision that something is right or wrong???...

we follow our religion because we want it to be as a guidance... and religion come as package... take it or leave it... its not something that u can agree a part of it and the rest u dont agree... if u think the religions are wrong... and all your ideas are right... then... create a new religion or just become an atheist... do not disgrace your religion...

when u ask is sex b4 marriage right or wrong... u r asking other ppl... its up to them to take it from religion, culture or personal point of view... no matter what they say... at the end... its up to you to decide...

errr... just curious.... is there any religion that say sex b4 marriage is ok or sex without marriage is ok???

have you heard of this sentence ?

what is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular

I dun think so...
Unless like u said previous post "create own religion"

COPYCAT !!!!!
I posted that in another thread.

cheh ... who want to copy u ?

and u r not the original ... so dont claim the copyright for this

ok... lets declaire it as open source so anyone can use it

Its her choice anyhow, i respect either way. Religion play a important roles in this tread.

Sex is sex. It's not love. It's not a relationship. As long as two persons agree to have sex, there's nothing wrong with it. Thus, we have one night stand/casual sex/etc.

Then there are people who use sex to get what they want, more money, more power, etc. Whether you approve of them or not is irrelevant. The point is, one can associate negative/positive elements to sex. The same can be said about many other issues, politics, religion, capitalism...

And you think sex after marriage has any significance, when one can so choose to divorce his/her partner later on? So, sex is no guarantee of a relationship or marriage. It's simply a tool used to fulfill them.

You can choose to have a detached view of sex, thus enjoying it more (not to mention it's good exercise), or you can choose to have a morality view of sex, thus enjoying it less. One man's meat, another's poison.



Dogbert

This post has been edited by dogbert: Sep 4 2006, 05:28 PM

for me that's bad. the problem is about nowadays culture. ppl sees that a small matter but in 1950-1990, only got a little doing sex before married. coz the culture that time don't like this.

OIC..So you are one of those colour wolves there

Yadda, yadda, yadda...it all comes because of love.

Ok..apart from that.. how sure are you that you husband/wife whom takes your virginity will uphold the until death do us part part? Hardly I can say. So is it worth it to hold back your virginity to your future husband and in later life when you are all sagging, and he looks for other tighter gals instead?

IMHO, have fun... play safe and never look back

Tak nak if can, but I accept sex b4 marage. (*note accept don't mean I and you all need or must do it. Depend to each individual, time, place. )
If decited to have, both person also have to bare the result and responsible to each other.

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This post has been edited by WTC: Sep 5 2006, 12:03 PM