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 Let me teach you how to spot good protein, Supplement sellers "might" hate me

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post Feb 19 2016, 06:49 AM

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QUOTE(Atoz 1 point 1 auto @ Feb 18 2016, 08:50 PM)
Hi darklight79,

Are Whey Protein imported from other countries?
Or some made in Malaysia using Malaysian technology?

I just curious, nothing important.

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Yeah there are some local brands here. Haven't tried them yet. Most of them are imported.
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post Feb 19 2016, 09:41 AM

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This thread piqued my curiosity on how Whey protein is made.

I did a brief research and would like to share with everyone my new thread ---> WHEY PROTEIN (Making of)


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hello guys
beginner here
i am aiming to lose fat and build some muscle, not aiming to be next terminator but just enough to look nice

which whey concentrate is best value for money? should i calculate based on per g price or per scoop price?

can recommend the best value for money whey concentrate to me? tqvm smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2016, 11:31 AM

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i read that one need 1g of protein for every pound of bodyweight

and there are about 20-22g of protein in every 100g of skinless/boneless chicken meat correct?

if so, i may need to up my protein intake right?
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post Mar 14 2016, 10:51 AM

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saw a protein yesterday

serving size = 26.5g
protein per serving = 24g

in this case, how do we review this product? good?

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post Mar 14 2016, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Mar 14 2016, 10:51 AM)
saw a protein yesterday

serving size = 26.5g
protein per serving = 24g

in this case, how do we review this product? good?

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inner amour was among one of the brands that were involved in a lawsuit for protein spiking last year (with musclepharm's arnold series if i'm not mistaken).

Personally, i wouldn't come close to it.
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post Mar 14 2016, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Petre @ Mar 14 2016, 10:51 AM)
saw a protein yesterday

serving size = 26.5g
protein per serving = 24g

in this case, how do we review this product? good?

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Always look at the ingredient label.
If I am right, it has been spiked with L-Glycine.

I think at the moment they are reformulating their whey protein series. Most companies are since the protein spike thing.
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is Mutant a reputable brand? or reputable because of spike?
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Does the same methodology apply to mass gainers as well? I am currently using Mammoth Mass. Serving size is 160g (2 scoops) = protein 30g + carbohydrates 115g + fat 5g = 150g. Does this qualify as a good mass gainer then?

Attached is the nutrition facts of Mammoth Mass.


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QUOTE(Cee74y @ Mar 19 2016, 03:17 PM)
Does the same methodology apply to mass gainers as well? I am currently using Mammoth Mass. Serving size is 160g (2 scoops) = protein 30g + carbohydrates 115g + fat 5g = 150g. Does this qualify as a good mass gainer then?

Attached is the nutrition facts of Mammoth Mass.
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was thinking to get this too..... from fb right ? hehe
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QUOTE(Cee74y @ Mar 19 2016, 02:17 PM)
Does the same methodology apply to mass gainers as well? I am currently using Mammoth Mass. Serving size is 160g (2 scoops) = protein 30g + carbohydrates 115g + fat 5g = 150g. Does this qualify as a good mass gainer then?

Attached is the nutrition facts of Mammoth Mass.
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God! Just no...
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post Apr 7 2016, 01:21 PM

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Mass gainers is nearly all sugars and carbs with small amounts of protein thrown in.

Rather drink Milo and add some protein powder on the side biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(aaronpang @ Apr 7 2016, 01:21 PM)
Mass gainers is nearly all sugars and carbs with small amounts of protein thrown in.

Rather drink Milo and add some protein powder on the side  biggrin.gif
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I am abit itchy and did some calculation base on 2 approaches
1. Milo
2. ON Serious Mass

Price is base on TESCO and MuscleMania
A pack of 2kg Milo cost RM31.99
http://eshop.tesco.com.my/en-GB/ProductDet...tail/7000122955

ON Serious Mass cost RM179
https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/optimum-nut...ion/seriousmass

Price per serving
Milo
20.1g carb 4g protein = RM0.48

ON Serious Mass
249g carb + 50g protein = RM11.20

Milo
In order to get 249g carb, we need 12.3 servings of Milos, which also comes with 49.2g protein

Therefore
Milo x 12.3 = RM0.48x 12.3 = RM5.904

RM11.20(334g per serving) vs RM5.904(369g per serving)
The serving is roughly the same but milo is much cheaper version of mass gainer, provided with that amount, you need to also swallow a tank of water to prevent heaty effect. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(helven @ Apr 7 2016, 05:38 PM)
I am abit itchy and did some calculation base on 2 approaches
1. Milo + ON Whey Gold Standard
2. ON Serious Mass

Price is base on TESCO and MuscleMania
A pack of 2kg Milo cost RM31.99
http://eshop.tesco.com.my/en-GB/ProductDet...tail/7000122955

ON Whey Gold Standard cost RM369
https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/optimum-nut...on/onwheygold10

ON Serious Mass cost RM179
https://www.musclemaniaclub.net/optimum-nut...ion/seriousmass

Price per serving
Milo
20.1g carb = RM0.48

ON Whey
24g protein = RM2.4765

ON Serious Mass
249g carb + 50g protein = RM11.20

Milo + ON Whey Gold Standard
In order to get 249g carb, we need 12.3 servings of Milos
In order to get 50g protein we need 2x ON Whey

Therefore
(Milo x 12.3) + (ON whey 24g x 2) = (RM0.48x 12.3) + (RM2.4765 x 2) = RM10.857

RM11.20 vs RM10.857
Amazingly, the price is roughly the same, Milo is as overpriced as mass gainer. Your call lol  rclxm9.gif
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u forgot milo also has 4gm protein per serving whistling.gif
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post Apr 7 2016, 06:30 PM

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Aiyo go market buy chicken breast RM5 goreng makan. High quality cheapest protein + loads of vitamins.
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post Apr 8 2016, 12:39 AM

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started gym 2 months back... from 64KG become 66KG now. only took chicken breast and eggs for post workout. Do I need whey or mass ? anyone can recommend thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif isolate protein for me ?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 7 2016, 06:26 PM)
u forgot milo also has 4gm protein per serving  whistling.gif
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Opps corrected my calculation.

QUOTE(saddient @ Apr 8 2016, 12:39 AM)
started gym 2 months back... from 64KG become 66KG now. only took chicken breast and eggs for post workout. Do I need whey or mass ? anyone can recommend thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  isolate protein for me ?
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http://iifym.com/iifym-calculator/

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post Apr 8 2016, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(helven @ Apr 7 2016, 05:38 PM)
The serving is roughly the same but milo is much cheaper version of mass gainer, provided with that amount, you need to also swallow a tank of water to prevent heaty effect.  thumbup.gif
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How much is a tank? By finishing the standard extra large 6 litre water bottle at once, I think we will literally go to hospital. biggrin.gif

And what is heaty effect? tongue.gif biggrin.gif

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used to take ON Gold Standard Whey few years back...
still ok for me...
Right now just starting to take MuscleTech Nitrowhey Milk Chocolate, i bought it just to test...
after first serving, bloated like hell...my tummy is always bulging..like I'm having constipation for weeks, and the nauseating feeling was worst than taking crew boat ride (I used to work at sea)....and it causes all kind of digesting problem, like heartburn...damn..

guess i gotta reduce my serving, and spread it throughout the day..somehow I have to get solid food to reach my protein goal now sleep.gif
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QUOTE(ripplezone @ Apr 8 2016, 12:01 PM)
How much is a tank? By finishing the standard extra large 6 litre water bottle at once, I think we will literally go to hospital.  biggrin.gif

And what is heaty effect?  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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One of Milo's ingredients cocoa powder contains trace amounts of caffeine.

http://www.nestle.com.au/aboutus/faqs/nutr...--health-faqs#2

Q: Does MILO contain caffeine? How does it compare to the amount of caffeine in NESCAFÉ Coffee?
A: MILO contains a small amount of caffeine, as caffeine is a natural component of the cocoa bean. It contains less than 10% of the amount found in a cup of instant coffee.

My guess the sensation of "heatiness" from Milo is due to the boost in metabolic rate.

I think this reply is somewhat OT apologies for bring up Milo in the first place.

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