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post Aug 8 2013, 12:28 AM, updated 13y ago

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PROTON SAGA BLM, FL & FLX Thread V49


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Proud owners of Proton Saga BLM/FL/FLX in LYN
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Proton Saga FLX price and specifications
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Spare Parts Price Lists
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Previous Proton Saga BLM Thread
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Review and Comparison
If you are new in buying and selecting a car between myvi and BLM,
kindly read the nice info given by our CyberKewl ( a driver and owner for both myvi and BLM)

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Proton Saga BLM, FL & FLX Fuel Consumption by Fuelly
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Proton S16 2010 ANCAP Crash Test

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NOTICE:

Prohibited Parts For Maintenance/Repair Works

All Proton Service Branches/Dealers are not allow to accept any job repairs or service request if the customer brings their own parts, accessories and lubricants.

Customer need to be advised to obtain and purchase all the above said mentioned items from Proton Edar in order to enjoy the 6 months or 10,000km for parts warranty, whichever comes first.

There is an inclusion for customers who bought their parts from Part Shoppe at PPCSB Glenmarie, only if the customer present the purchase invoice

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Car service guide for beginners:

Disclaimer: Parts price may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q1: OMG OMG OMG! My car 1,000 km already. I am so excited for my first service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

It is recommended to stick with an authorised Proton service center for the first three service since it is free (labor charge) and to prevent any complication from happening during warranty claims.

*Engine oil price may change from time to time subject to SC's discretion.

Q2: Should I do alignment and balancing on my first service? Can I do it under the tree?

If you have alignment and balancing issues during the 11- 999 km period of driving your car, hop over to a SC immediately and they will rectify it free of charge. Above 1,000km alignment and balancing is not covered under warranty so you may proceed to your trusted alignment and balancing sifu or just go do alignment under a coconut tree.

Q3: OMG OMG OMG! My car 5,000 km already. I am so excited for my second service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q1>

Q4: What engine oil should I take? Mineral? Semi synthetic? Synthetic? Minyak masak cap petai?

Please do no use minyak masak cap petai although minyak masak cap pisau has some nutty aroma. They could be useful if you wish to fry an egg or a fish during traffic jam to cure your hunger but your engine will not receive any sufficient protection after 100 yards you poured the oil in.

Normally, it is recommended to take semi-synthetic since it offers benefits of fully synthetic at a fraction of a price. If fully synthetic price isn't an issue for you, you may go ahead and opt for it.

Q5: Can I take fully synthetic during the first three service (1,000 km, 5,000 km & 10,000 km)?

Although you can opt for fully synthetic for the three initial service, it is recommended to stick with semi-synthetic for the first two service (1,000 km & 5,000km). Reason is, both intervals are relatively short and therefore it is wasted if one opt to pour in fully synthetic. From 10,000km onwards, you may opt to pour in fully synthetic if your budget permits.
Q6: OMG OMG OMG! My car 10,000 km already. I am so excited for my third service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

Refer <Q3>

Q7: OMG OMG OMG! My car 15,000 km already. I am so excited for my fourth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Do note that from 15,000km onwards, you will be charged labour charge for every single service you do in a Proton authorized service center. For every normal servicing, the labour charged will be RM55.00*.

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q8: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, what should I do? OMG OMG OMG!

You should pay a visit to an authorized service center near you as soon as possible. Item to be taken are:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 100.00*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Q9: OMG OMG OMG! My car 20,000 km already. I am so excited for my fifth service, but after read Q8, I feel sadding liao coz not enuf money. Ayam sad sad.gif

Afraid not, you may skimp on a few item above and bring forward it to the 25,000km service.

You may choose either:

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 1:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Spark Plug [RM 38.00]
- Radiator Coolant [RM30.00]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: brake fluid & Air filter

or

LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2:

- Engine Oil (semi-synthetic) [RM 109]*
- Oil Filter [RMRM12.22]
- Oil Drain Gasket [RM3.32]
- Brake Fluid [RM70]
- Air Filter [RM 16.71]

skipped item to be brought forward to 25k km service: spark plug & Radiator coolant

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Optional:
- windscreen washer

Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto):
- Magnatrap
- X1R engine treatment
- whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you

Labor charge: RM 75.00* - RM100*

*Labour charge may change from time to time subject to Proton's discretion.

Disclaimer: Just dont go to the SC ans say "I want that LYN Saga thread edisi tikus recommended package 2 for my current service." They will look at you and say "Are you on crack or something?" Just tell them the item you want and don't want.

Q10: Refering to Q9, Why skip here and skip there one? Nanti kereta rosak how?

Brake fluid normally has a lifespan of two years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle braking system.

Radiator coolant normally has a lifespan of two to three years, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle cooling system. Just remember, DO NOT ADD ONLY TAP WATER INTO YOUR VEHICLE COOLING SYSTEM!

The paper air filter fuction is to filter out huge particles such as sand, away from your intake chamber. As long as the air filter is still inside, an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle air intake system.

Normal copper core spark plugs can last up to 40,000km, therefore an additional 5,000km will do no harm to the vehicle ignition system.

Q11: Since the items above can last so long, why not I use it till the maximum lifespan?

While some items such as brake fluid and radiator coolant is fine to be used till its maximum lifespan, but it is recommended to do periodic check on both items (especially brake fluid) and replace it if it needed to. Never wait till any components to break down before changing them. When a component starts breaking down, chances are, it will "infect" other parts too.

As for high wear and tear item such as copper spark plug, they usually degrade after just 20,000km. Although it may still operate above 20,000km, but chances are, the sparks it ignite isn't big enough to make a full combustion and therefore, your car will start to feel sluggish and thirsty. It is just like calling an old marathon runner to run a 100m sprint race. Although he can still run, but probably he wont be able to run as fast during his younger days.

Q12: Who is V12Kompressor? Why should I trust you?

V12Kompressor is just a nobody who enjoy his time playing tikus game. In the end, it is up to your own common sense to decide what is right or wrong for your car. God grants you common sense. Use it.

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Recommended parts replacement interval by jaylim94

Note :
This is just suggestion by user of Saga. Not necessary to follow up everything but if you loves your car, please follow the interval replacement.
Oil = Fluid
*If using performance parts may depend on the suggested interval replacement.

Engine Oil* + Engine Oil Filter*:
Every 5,000 KM or 3 months whichever comes first.

Manual Transmission Oil
Every 50,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Automatic Transmission Oil
Every 40,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Oil + CVT Oil filter
Every 60,000 KM or 2 years whichever come first.

Engine Air Filter*, Spark Plugs*, Air Cond Blower Filter
Every 25,000 KM

Air Con Compressor Oil
Every 30,000 KM or 18 months whichever come first.

Brake Oil* + Power Steering Oil
Every 40,000 KM

Engine Coolant*
Every 30,000 KM or 1 years whichever come first

Timing Belt + Front End Auxiliary Drive (FEAD Belt)
Every 100,000 KM or 5 years whichever come first
OR
Every 80,000 KM or 4 years whichever come first

Fuel Filter
Every 60,000 KM or 3 years whichever come first

Check :
(Every Service or every 10,000 KM or everytime)
Foreman won't so free to check for you. You can check yourself since the car you drive the most. Somehow others part you need get help from foreman

Battery Performance
Brake Performance
Tires Condition
Wiper and Washer System
Signal Light / Brake Light / Headlamp
Operation of Horn
Seat Belts
Clutch
Power Window
Air Conditional Function
Coolant Hoses and System

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NEW CAR CHECKLIST

Check where applicable
Make sure that all the keys and remote controls are working.

Locks

Keyless Entry (Lock and unlock using remote)
Manual Entry (Lock and unlock using key)
Master Lock
Individual Lock
Alarm
Alarm reset switch

Windows

Power Windows(Check that the driver side auto window is working)
Windows control Lock

Electric Mirrors

Electric Mirrors Control ( Up, Down, Left & Right )

Console


Air-Conditioning
Fan Speeds
Rear Demister
Radio/CD/DVD Player
Steering controls

Switches

Headlights
Directional Signals
High Beam
Hazard Lights
Parking Lights
Tail Lights
Brake Lights
Fog Lamps
Interior light
Wiper (Make sure each speed is correct)
Wiper Spray
Horn

Dashboard

Dashboard lights come on when headlights are on
Information lights (eg. Parking brake ) are lit at relevant time
Check that odometer does not display excessive mileage

Transmission & Brakes

Smooth Gearshift
Automatic transmission
Shift Lock button
Footbrake
Handbrake

Things to look out for:
Test auto-transmission for shock while engaging gear.
Make sure that the brake has to be depressed to shift out of Park mode.
Make sure that the car can only start in Neutral or Park mode.

Other Interiors

Steering wheel properly aligned
Steering wheel adjusting lever
Bonnet release lever
Boot release lever
Fuel tank release lever
Check for stains and holes on seats
Seat adjuster (Forward, backward, recline)
Seat belts (Check that the Seat belts lock when pulled hard)
Check for scratches and dents on the trims
Rear Mirror
Glove box
Check for stains on carpets
Air-con vents (Check that they are able to move freely)
Speakers

Exterior

Check that car plate is correct
Check that body surface is free from dents and scratches.
Check that windows and windscreens are free from stains and scratches
Check that lights are clear and undamaged
Check that door handles are working
Check that tyres are free from holes and punctures
Check that rims are free from scratches
Check that the radio antenna is working
Check that fuel cap is secured

Under The Bonnet


Engine Oil level
Brake Fluid level
Battery Water level
Transmission Fluid level
Coolant level
Air-Conditioning gas level
Check engine compartment with any obvious defects and damage

Inside the Boot

Base board
Boot light
Tool kit
Spare tyre

Documentation

Road Tax
Certificate of insurance
Car owner manual

Miscellaneous

Check tyres pressure
All goodies promised are given

Stock Tint Measurement

Brand Safetint
UVR 99%
IRR 55%
VLT 60%
TSER tarak tau
Thickness 2 mil


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WORK IN PROGRESS F A Q

Wooi! Why got water mark inside my headlamp geh?!
You can replacement from any Proton Service Center. (3 Years Warranty)

Ranjiao Plotong, make car also make until chock har chock har, semput semput, jerk like masturbating
Bring to Proton Service Center for fix/remap the ECU and TCU. Noted that not all of the SC can fix this issue.

Tibai, pay so much buy a car, press the brake the door also won't lock by itself meh?
You must get it from Accessories shop, got 2 type of lock for Saga.
1 of it You can unlock the door with the button beside the Hazard light and when you open the door the hazard light will activate for 1 minutes until you close the door. 1 of it you can't have those features that I mention.

Makai! Bought the car less than a year, now aircon now more wind blow liao ar?
You may clean the pollen filter yourself, it will helps for sure.
Here the video, credit to omara86 sweat.gif

Otherwise if you have a paper cabin filter, please make sure you change it if it's too dirty.


Just how fast the GaGa can fly eh? The brochure state can do 200km/h yau mou lan?
Some hero try top speed without mod can get more than brochure mention.
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When car on P & N mode, step on the pedal and car engine cannot revo more than 3000RPM. [FLX]
Don't worry, is actually normal for Proton CVT, same goes to Preve and Exora Bold.

What is the purpose of S.A.T? Turbo for saga?[FLX]
S.A.T = Stepped Auto Tranmission
Because Saga FLX comes with virtual gears, in before you get your FLX your sales person keep on mention 6-speed is actually after you activate the SAT then will comes with 6 speed (a.k.a 6 Gears). For me this button is use to cut lane with higher revo of the engine. Somehow a bit act like turbo for kids. tongue.gif Do noted that engage S.A.T will consume more fuel that D mode.

How to make my car more fuel saving?
Well I can say that for every car is same. If you can maintain your engine rev more or less around 2000RPM that will giving you best fuel consumption. Of course you're a light footer that should be an easy job.
Here's a video that's talks about fuel consumption more. For CVT user. Credit to Hiroshi.



Engine Revolutions Per Minute (RPM) for Saga.
Saga FLX 1.3 CVT
2000RPM - 80 ~ 90 KMH
3000RPM - 120 ~130 KMH
4000RPM - 150 ~ 160 KMH

Engine intake funnel rubber Seal ? [BLM/FL/FLX]
Better take a look of this, trust me later on you will check your car to ensure you have this.
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I'm sure that start from 2013 most of the new Saga comes with this.
Don't have this one on your saga? You can claim from Proton Service Center. Noted that not all the service center know what is this rclxub.gif. Better bring photo to show them or bring to COSE. This rubber is Free of Charge.

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You guys drove so fast that I can't see you guys after first corner and I u-turn back. Salute
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 10 2013, 09:51 AM)
David. I was trying to push the myvi to go faster and let it expose it weak side. I think we saw the myvi driver took the most inner lane.

Yesterday at highway I can feel the differences the obvious.

Qua. Nice to have u riding in my car with David. Nice tire u have....how does it feel to sit behind?
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laugh.gif The fella knew it, he purposely 1. Frankly, that's typical KL driver(not mention it's a dugong/turtle). Most of these bugger like to speed past, hog on the lane where you go. Trust me if you attempt to over take on the innerlane, that ******* would have block your way until they able to setup a trap to block you from behind, which is exactly what happened this morning.

Anyway, catching up the Mybi and pushing him was fun enough. Knowing we're still on 4th gear oni, still got rooms to go laugh.gif However though, after the bugger swifted to the most left lane, left the black LMST on the middle lane and a bloody FLX infront that time really nerve wrecking. sweat.gif Thank God your braking skill is way above par notworthy.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 10 2013, 10:59 AM)
You guys drove so fast that I can't see you guys after first corner and I u-turn back. Salute
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Oh! The 3rd car is you laugh.gif
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David, really an eye opener for me on these youngster drivers in kl. usually I go kl also with my wife and daughter in a different car so never had such encounters.

Seremban u won't see such drivers have but very very few and seldom encounter. Won't see u driving in fast lane then purposely come provoke u. I wonder what is the grudge on gaga owners from those myvi and dugong. Frankly speaking that time we were driving at our own pace then just come and disturb our pace. Some more my car outside look totally stock no spoiler or body kit and totally no indication that my car is heavily modify also.....hmmmmm must be gorrila attracted him...hahahaha

Mengsuan. Sorry bro we really didn't intent to leave you behind. I was just driving as usual only a few place drive faster a bit...

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2013, 04:29 AM)
yet another dilemma lol.
well so far braking is ok la, just need to find a new stock EBC greenstuff probably directly imported from UK. cheaper anyways and i'll most probably get the noise reduction shims fitted too which would be nice

i can lock my wheels now anyways with the current brake pads/rotors (im on x drilled/slotted too hehe) so really have to discipline on the braking part and self applied ABS (aku brake sendiri brows.gif )
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What dilemma? whistling.gif

Having a large disc brake is not entirely base on wanting braking power. When you have a larger rotor that matches your rim size, you'll get a lot more easier threshold braking. I'm not saying stock brake no good or the imported pads is flawed. The fact is, when you have a small rotor with a bigger wheel, as and when you try to clamp your brakes, either it doesn't bite, or it bite harsh and you jam brake whistling.gif Don't forget, iswaga front end so dem heavy, you can't possibly work on 50/50 brake force distribution. My case, ayam guessing most of my braking power has been routed to my front, my rear brakeshoe can last like forever icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 03:15 AM)

r3apers extrator quite loud as you leave.
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Haha, cheapo extractor, so cant do anything.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 10 2013, 12:57 PM)
David, really an eye opener for me on these youngster drivers in kl. usually I go kl also with my wife and daughter in a different car so never had such encounters.

Seremban u won't see such drivers have but very very few and seldom encounter. Won't see u driving in fast lane then purposely come provoke u. I wonder what is the grudge on gaga owners from those myvi and dugong. Frankly speaking that time we were driving at our own pace then just come and disturb our pace. Some more my car outside look totally stock no spoiler or body kit and totally no indication that my car is heavily modify also.....hmmmmm must be gorrila attracted him...hahahaha

Mengsuan. Sorry bro we really didn't intent to leave you behind. I was just driving as usual only a few place drive faster a bit...
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http://youtu.be/5LruL0ur4Rg?t=1m33s

Tell me what do u feel about the incident after u watch? The dugong is definitely drunk, but what do u learn from the Mybi?

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 01:26 PM)
http://youtu.be/5LruL0ur4Rg?t=1m33s

Tell me what do u feel about the incident after u watch? The dugong is definitely drunk, but what do u learn from the Mybi?

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this happen all the time to me when i am rushing and driving at the fast lane,lol....

p/s:i need a cps muffler,==
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Aug 10 2013, 01:31 PM)
this happen all the time to me when i am rushing and driving at the fast lane,lol....

p/s:i need a cps muffler,==
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 01:38 PM)
Proven! TitanRev using Gen2 now. FAWESOME!!!!!
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gen2 geh also high flow ah??!
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 01:26 PM)
http://youtu.be/5LruL0ur4Rg?t=1m33s

Tell me what do u feel about the incident after u watch? The dugong is definitely drunk, but what do u learn from the Mybi?

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I read you guys posts I still can't be sure what happened last nite....can elaborate ah?
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that place... so familiar...
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 10 2013, 02:19 PM)
that place... so familiar...
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Kenji, u tell dares apa happen last night. 3 old man inside a gaga kena molest by myvi...hahaha
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Kenji, u tell dares apa happen last night. 3 old man inside a gaga kena molest by myvi...hahaha
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Kenji, u tell dares apa happen last night. 3 old man inside a gaga kena molest by myvi...hahaha
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I'm also old man who also got molested by Maivees and Dugongs sad.gif

QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 10 2013, 02:50 PM)
lets make it like this la... next TT he tak Cinderella then i tell him ~ tongue.gif
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I'm also old man who also got molested by Maivees and Dugongs  sad.gif
Oii respect the elderly. I need to go home early to sleep coz ayam old dy  vmad.gif
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I'm also old man who also got molested by Maivees and Dugongs  sad.gif
Oii respect the elderly. I need to go home early to sleep coz ayam old dy  vmad.gif
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I'm also old man who also got molested by Maivees and Dugongs  sad.gif
Oii respect the elderly. I need to go home early to sleep coz ayam old dy  vmad.gif
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Young people nowadays right. Haha
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MRR2 run was started slow as TitanRev not familiar with the road. I gave my instruction to whack the 1st huge high speed corner near the tasik selatan(which I buanged the 1st day I installed 3MAX bars). Entering speed was 90kph oni, exit at 120kph. Continue the sprint, heading LRT BTS, meter clocked 170kph. Brake and lose some speed due to unfamiliar of the road, could have rev match downshift 3rd gear and continue sprint the way out from the bottom of the bridge by taking the left lane. Passes by Desa Tun Razak with heavy traffic built up due to bass stopping by and cars evading out from the left lane. This point of time, we realized accidentally overtook an MyBi, not sure whether the bugger was provoked by kenjilew's bling bling keep dionging us. I advised TitanRev to give way. After the MyBi flyby, TitanRev took the right lane and pickup speed. Taking the right lane is relatively dangerous on that stretch due to uneven, can see the MyBi is relatively smart to dodge the holes and uneven terrain taking that corner, our car pulak suffer a bit of bounce, never the less our Grade A Lunatic managed to follow with the right speed despite the car being bounced thoroughly. On the uphill, we've managed to give the MyBi some pressure, but not really pushing it hard. Not sure the MyBi is slowing down and call the game off, or it's simply not enough power to cope up with that hill climb.

At the point when passes by Tmn Midah Tesco, at downhill the MyBi trying to sprint away. I'm guessing that point of time TitanRev was getting annoyed and got pissed off. Downshift 3rd gear rev match WOT all the way to the red line and proceed with 4th gear. Eyeing the speedo meter at 160kph, screaming at nearly 7krpm, biting the MyBi back very closely. That arsehole still trying to block the way, infact purposely hog on the same lane till it finds an opportunity to block us, an LMST at the middle lane, not far ahead is an extremely slow FLX on the fast lane. TitanRev make a gradual threshold braking and stick behind the ultra slow FLX, we evade ourself from the fast lane and back to middle lane.

Basically that's the only drama happened, the rest are casual driving due to unfamiliar of road, which is why I suggested to let me drive 1 round earlier. Out of the blue, suddenly Quazacolt suggested the old Sg.Besi Nirvana road heading to Bestraya winding road, we took a U-Turn and hit Desa Petaling. We tackle a few nice corner at moderate speed, and finally slowing down at Bestraya as I scared there's speed camera. We took the Golden Horse roundabout and stopped at the traffic light. Kenjilew was at our side showing his yawning face wanted to provoke drag, we didn't take up the challenge. As an when the light turned green, sohigh Kenji make a short wheelspun and took off, what surprised us is an old 2008 N Line BLM catching up Kenji(Seremban plate also). The race wasn't lasted as Kenji decided to stay back with us because we didn't join the battle.

Until next time icon_rolleyes.gif

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MRR2 run was started slow as TitanRev not familiar with the road. I gave my instruction to whack the 1st huge high speed corner near the tasik selatan(which I buanged the 1st day I installed 3MAX bars). Entering speed was 90kph oni, exit at 120kph. Continue the sprint, heading LRT BTS, meter clocked 170kph. Brake and lose some speed due to unfamiliar of the road, could have rev match downshift 3rd gear and continue sprint the way out from the bottom of the bridge by taking the left lane. Passes by Desa Tun Razak with heavy traffic built up due to bass stopping by and cars evading out from the left lane. This point of time, we realized accidentally overtook an MyBi, not sure whether the bugger was provoked by kenjilew's bling bling keep dionging us. I advised TitanRev to give way. After the MyBi flyby, TitanRev took the right lane and pickup speed. Taking the right lane is relatively dangerous on that stretch due to uneven, can see the MyBi is relatively smart to dodge the holes and uneven terrain taking that corner, our car pulak suffer a bit of bounce, never the less our Grade A Lunatic managed to follow with the right speed despite the car being bounced thoroughly. On the uphill, we've managed to give the MyBi some pressure, but not really pushing it hard. Not sure the MyBi is slowing down and call the game off, or it's simply not enough power to cope up with that hill climb.

At the point when passes by Tmn Midah Tesco, at downhill the MyBi trying to sprint away. I'm guessing that point of time TitanRev was getting annoyed and got pissed off. Downshift 3rd gear rev match WOT all the way to the red line and proceed with 4th gear. Eyeing the speedo meter at 160kph, screaming at nearly 7krpm, biting the MyBi back very closely. That arsehole still trying to block the way, infact purposely hog on the same lane till it finds an opportunity to block us, an LMST at the middle lane, not far ahead is an extremely slow FLX on the fast lane. TitanRev make a gradual threshold braking and stick behind the ultra slow FLX, we evade ourself from the fast lane and back to middle lane.

Basically that's the only drama happened, the rest are casual driving due to unfamiliar of road, which is why I suggested to let me drive 1 round earlier. Out of the blue, suddenly Quazacolt suggested the old Sg.Besi Nirvana road heading to Bestraya winding road, we took a U-Turn and hit Desa Petaling. We tackle a few nice corner at moderate speed, and finally slowing down at Bestraya as I scared there's speed camera. We took the Golden Horse roundabout and stopped at the traffic light. Kenjilew was at our side showing his yawning face wanted to provoke drag, we didn't take up the challenge. As an when the light turned green, sohigh Kenji make a short wheelspun and took off, what surprised us is an old 2008 N Line BLM catching up Kenji(Seremban plate also). The race wasn't lasted as Kenji decided to stay back with us because we didn't join the battle.

Until next time icon_rolleyes.gif
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On the uphill, we've managed to give the MyBi some pressure, but not really pushing it hard. Not sure the MyBi is slowing down and call the game off, or it's simply not enough power to cope up with that hill climb.

At the point when passes by Tmn Midah Tesco, at downhill the MyBi trying to sprint away.
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Ayam guessing the Myvi not enough power. 1.3 or 1.5?

I drive veeyous climb that hill, LITERALLY pedal to the metal carpet and still got overtaken by a BLM.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 03:34 PM)
Out of the blue, suddenly Quazacolt suggested the old Sg.Besi Nirvana road heading to Bestraya winding road, we took a U-Turn and hit Desa Petaling.
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Ah my favourite stretch of urban winding road wub.gif

That's where I played with a Mazda 3 before, and I also use to drive into the TBS to tackle the 90 degrees corners and that "chicane" just before the bridge returning to MRR2. When I was driving FLX it was there I got smoked like nobody's business by a red fofi and initiated my obsession with that Ford wub.gif
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Qua. Nice to have u riding in my car with David. Nice tire u have....how does it feel to sit behind?
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 03:54 PM)
Ayam guessing the Myvi not enough power. 1.3 or 1.5?

I drive veeyous climb that hill, LITERALLY pedal to the metal carpet and still got overtaken by a BLM.
Ah my favourite stretch of urban winding road  wub.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 01:06 PM)
Having a large disc brake is not entirely base on wanting braking power. When you have a larger rotor that matches your rim size, you'll get a lot more easier threshold braking. I'm not saying stock brake no good or the imported pads is flawed. The fact is, when you have a small rotor with a bigger wheel, as and when you try to clamp your brakes, either it doesn't bite, or it bite harsh and you jam brake whistling.gif Don't forget, iswaga front end so dem heavy, you can't possibly work on 50/50 brake force distribution. My case, ayam guessing most of my braking power has been routed to my front, my rear brakeshoe can last like forever icon_idea.gif
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actually, it is easier on threshold braking because to have much more braking capabilities you essentially lower the time required for threshold braking and thus you can spend the remainder time to tackle a corner and/or accelerate faster during/exiting the corner; and of course larger disc means bigger cooling surface which would prevent your pads fading if you threshold brake too much/too frequently.

rim size aside it's more of a weight problem; The 5kg/rim i'm using for the ad08r right now is actually lighter than the majority of sport rims at 14" and even to an extent on cheaper 13" rims, granted there aren't that many choices for 13" and below anyways lol
and as we know the weight is the main factor on creating the heavier momentum that warrants better braking force

which is why i opted on upgrading my rotors, and spending so much more on the brake pads which so far has never disappointed me except for the detachment part which i suspect it's more of a aging stock issue

and yea, the rear brakes pretty much last forever since they aren't really worked on. although somehow i'm having a lot of dust generated at the rear not sure because of really bad braking habits (prolly cuz i want to finish the front bpads faster so i can get brand new ones of the same pads from UK directly LOL!) or the shoes are dusty... (bendix ceramic based, supposed to be low dust, but as i found out recently that's BS LOL!)
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3 old man inside a gaga kena molest by myvi...hahaha
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 03:34 PM)
Basically that's the only drama happened, the rest are casual driving due to unfamiliar of road, which is why I suggested to let me drive 1 round earlier. Out of the blue, suddenly Quazacolt suggested the old Sg.Besi Nirvana road heading to Bestraya winding road, we took a U-Turn and hit Desa Petaling. We tackle a few nice corner at moderate speed, and finally slowing down at Bestraya as I scared there's speed camera.
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https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Besraya+(M)+...0&update=1&z=15

neh the company. the point at speed traps i think should be back to kesas already

basically the usual routes i take when doing midnight jobs at Sg.Besi TPM would be here:
https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Jalan+Ku...z=18&iwloc=ddw1
sg besi road and then entering Sg Besi Highway (alternative route) aka BESRAYA
(omg look at the corners wub.gif wub.gif wub.gif )

https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Jalan+Su...sp=0&sz=17&z=17


http://www.ijm.com/infrastructure/toll/besraya/faq.asp
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The Besraya Highway is also called the Lebuhraya Sungai Besi or Sungai Besi Highway. However, due to its close proximity to the PLUS (North South Expressway) Sungai Besi Toll Plaza, we at Besraya have chosen the name Besraya Highway to help users differentiate the two. In fact, Lebuhraya Sungai Besi is the name gazetted by the Government and the Malaysian Highway Authority for the Besraya Highway.


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i thought besraya and sg besi highway is different whereas they are the same haha (hence the highway david and i know and come to love is actually the same place but we recognize the names differently hehe)

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added my end point TPM route, basically a brief moment on mrr2, then kesas biggrin.gif

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DIAMLAH OLD MAN  vmad.gif
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True also....finish one whole pizza by yourself  whistling.gif
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this morning breakfast pizza also (left over 6 or 7 pieces from 3 regular, between me/2 sisters), owen 150c pre-heat 5mins heating pizza 5mins reheated as per domino's instruction.
tray coated with good quality butter as anti stick.


f***ING AWESOME WEIH LOL
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this morning breakfast pizza also (left over 6 or 7 pieces from 3 regular, between me/2 sisters), owen 150c pre-heat 5mins heating pizza 5mins reheated as per domino's instruction.
tray coated with good quality butter as anti stick.
f***ING AWESOME WEIH LOL
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make me hungry please...
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http://www.dominos.com.my/frmAlaCartePizza.aspx

we had meat wonder, meatasaurus, prawn sensation. the amount of meat man... mouth watering
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 10 2013, 05:12 PM)
this morning breakfast pizza also (left over 6 or 7 pieces from 3 regular, between me/2 sisters), owen 150c pre-heat 5mins heating pizza 5mins reheated as per domino's instruction.
tray coated with good quality butter as anti stick.
f***ING AWESOME WEIH LOL
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yes sir!
http://www.dominos.com.my/frmAlaCartePizza.aspx

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Quaz. I mean the rear setup. Did u feel the car follow through the wavy road or hop across it? Because for gaga the rear is light so if too hard the rear will hop instead of follow through. If hopping then corner won't be stable.
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Im back awhile... Missed 2 version dy... Now V49..
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my Ipoh trip.... basically I am driving around in a Honda City...
while watching my car gets driven around by my dad.... sleep.gif

At least he kept my car happy by going rev-crazy around Ipoh. lol

tried a few corners at DUKE using the speed I will do it in my Saga with the City... it still sticks to the ground (VSC lol), but the steering is a bit numb and a bit wobbly, feels like marshmallow. And the gearbox is sometimes dim witted and slow, press a bit more throttle, still sticking on the same 5th gear, press a bit more, still same gear, press a bit more, gearbox downshift twice and can hear VTEC sound. sleep.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 10 2013, 10:20 PM)
tried a few corners at DUKE using the speed I will do it in my Saga with the City... it still sticks to the ground (VSC lol), but the steering is a bit numb and a bit wobbly, feels like marshmallow.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 10 2013, 10:11 PM)
feelgoodinc183 who desparately needed to upgrade galfren sleep.gif TT lasted until 2:15am
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 10:32 PM)
Wafaq you manage to trigger VSC sleep.gif
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LOL, I dunno lol.

BTW, one thing for sure, Continental tires are crap for cornering =.=
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BTW, one thing for sure, Continental tires are crap for cornering =.=
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What tires were they?
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Fire Red Manual Saga 1.3 SV Here.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 10:41 PM)
I won't disagree sleep.gif

What tires were they?
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I think those are Continental Premium Contact 2.

Isn't that silent either.... I think my C drive 2 has even lesser road roar. Imagine, despite the exhaust sound, 2 kids and a adult can still sleep soundly at the rear seats on the way back KL from Kampar in my Saga.

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QUOTE(Physxzc @ Aug 10 2013, 10:43 PM)
Fire Red Manual Saga 1.3 SV Here.
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I think those are Continental Premium Contact 2.

Isn't that silent either.... I think my C drive 2 has even lesser road roar. Imagine, despite the exhaust sound, 2 kids and a adult can still sleep soundly at the rear seats on the way back KL from Kampar in my Saga.
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CPC2, Same as mine.

"Isn't that silent" is an understatement. It was the tire roar that prompted me to get my undercarriage checked, I thought it was bearing kong or something doh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 10:56 PM)
CPC2, Same as mine.

"Isn't that silent" is an understatement. It was the tire roar that prompted me to get my undercarriage checked, I thought it was bearing kong or something  doh.gif
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btw standard/sv saga come with 14" ?
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Standard come with 13" rims
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CVT comes with 14" right? My bro-in-law has helped me to trade in my <200km tyres to the tyres shop and changed to new 4 Michelin tyres, I have to top up RM 450...

I left my car in Seremban and oh yeah just one week, it has reached 390km mileage. OK?
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 10 2013, 11:46 PM)
CVT comes with 14" right? My bro-in-law has helped me to trade in my <200km tyres to the tyres shop and changed to new 4 Michelin tyres, I have to top up RM 450...

I left my car in Seremban and oh yeah just one week, it has reached 390km mileage. OK?
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Think only exec and SE comes with 14".
390 in a week is quite normal. Mine cvt 1 week already 1094km. Colleted on 1st june 2013. 2 months already 2nd service. Now already 6600km.
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Aug 10 2013, 11:53 PM)
Think only exec  and SE comes with 14".
390 in a week is quite normal. Mine cvt 1 week already 1094km. Colleted on 1st june 2013. 2 months already 2nd service. Now already 6600km.
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OK, because my sister and bro-in-law do use my car when I'm working in KL...
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kinda interesting news...

http://ondscene.my/kemalangan/myvi-dan-tembok

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 10 2013, 10:56 PM)
CPC2, Same as mine.

"Isn't that silent" is an understatement. It was the tire roar that prompted me to get my undercarriage checked, I thought it was bearing kong or something  doh.gif
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Dares..

CPC 2 ok kah?

Found it, its only tyre choice when comes to 195 50 16..hehe
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Aug 10 2013, 11:11 PM)
didnt check ur absorber as well???
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I ask them to check everything. Anyway the SA told me those tires mmg noisy, I was not the first to komplen doh.gif

QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 10 2013, 11:46 PM)
I left my car in Seremban and oh yeah just one week, it has reached 390km mileage. OK?
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Aug 10 2013, 11:53 PM)
Think only exec  and SE comes with 14".

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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Aug 11 2013, 12:02 AM)
Dares..

CPC 2 ok kah?

Found it, its only tyre choice when comes to 195 50 16..hehe
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Normal tires, nothing to shout about.

There are a few other brands for that size, Falken ZE912, for example. I forgot about the others, need to dig throug the Fiesta Club forums, but yeah that size is rare.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 02:17 AM)
I ask them to check everything. Anyway the SA told me those tires mmg noisy, I was not the first to komplen doh.gif
Why not OK? blink.gif
SE is 15"
Normal tires, nothing to shout about.

There are a few other brands for that size, Falken ZE912, for example. I forgot about the others, need to dig throug the Fiesta Club forums, but yeah that size is rare.
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Oic bro..

Yeah, its rare.. sweat.gif

Need to change rim and tyre if want better tyre such as PS3, RE002 and others..
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 10 2013, 08:00 PM)
Quaz. I mean the rear setup. Did u feel the car follow through the wavy road or hop across it? Because for gaga the rear is light so if too hard the rear will hop instead of follow through. If hopping then corner won't be stable.
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i think the suspensions are fine though if you ask me; Unless you're actually asking on comfort then heh sweat.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 10 2013, 10:39 PM)
BTW, one thing for sure, Continental tires are crap for cornering =.=
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 10 2013, 06:14 PM)
Todays Ipoh Tesco highlight, Total Quartz Full Sync 5 Litre @ RM 139.9
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Sekaligus sapu all 3 bottles at the rack, total 15 Litres, 3.75L per service can last for 4 services, RM105/service.
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Yup, saw this also on offer @local Tesco here up North...lots & lots...1 mountain high!!
Also @RM139...

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What is the service interval of Saga FLX?? 5000 km to 10000 km??
In the invoice it is stated that to service again at 11000 km but on the sticker at the windshield stated 6000 km. Even the ppl at customer service said 11000 km. Which 1 is correct?? Engine oil used was Syntium 800 SM 10w-40. Btw, is that engine oil Semi-synthetic?
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QUOTE(Firebird @ Aug 11 2013, 01:12 PM)
What is the service interval of Saga FLX?? 5000 km to 10000 km??
In the invoice it is stated that to service again at 11000 km but on the sticker at the windshield stated 6000 km. Even the ppl at customer service said 11000 km. Which 1 is correct?? Engine oil used was Syntium 800 SM 10w-40. Btw, is that engine oil Semi-synthetic?
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Service intervals shld follow odometer readings...
Eg if using SS EO, 1st @1k Km...2nd @5k Km...3rd @10k Km & so on...

However, if using FS EO, then it wld b @1k Km...then 10k Km...agin @20k Km & so on...

Different SCs hv different interpretations...sorry.... rolleyes.gif

ps. It's also advisable 2change oil filter @5k Km intervals...top up EO if necessary.

NB. Yu're the car owner, the Paymaster, everything...
Decisions & responsibilities of wat's best 4yr ride is SOLELY up2yu & yu alone...
Best wishes... cheers.gif

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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Service intervals shld follow odometer readings...
Eg if using SS EO, 1st @1k Km...2nd @5k Km...3rd @10k Km & so on...

However, if using FS EO, then it wld b @1k Km...then 10k Km...agin @20k Km & so on...

Different SCs hv different interpretations...sorry.... rolleyes.gif
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So is the Petronas Syntium 800 SM 10w-40 a SS or FS??
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QUOTE(Firebird @ Aug 11 2013, 01:41 PM)
So is the Petronas Syntium 800 SM 10w-40 a SS or FS??
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SS...
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What is the service interval of Saga FLX?? 5000 km to 10000 km??
In the invoice it is stated that to service again at 11000 km but on the sticker at the windshield stated 6000 km. Even the ppl at customer service said 11000 km. Which 1 is correct?? Engine oil used was Syntium 800 SM 10w-40. Btw, is that engine oil Semi-synthetic?
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Syntium 800 is SS.

Last time if you use SS your service interval is every 5k km, now I heard they extended it to 10k km even for SS.

To be sure call up COSE and ask, or email Proton WetakCare.

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 01:45 PM)
Syntium 800 is SS.

Last time if you use SS your service interval is every 5k km, now I heard they extended it to 10k km even for SS.

To be sure call up COSE and ask, or email Proton WetakCare.
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Juz 4discussion sake, if engine moving parts are the same, wat cld the reason(s)/factor(s) be to allow longer OCIs than as is...?

Dun tell me Proton has upgraded materials quality of int moving parts?

If not, it wld b better 2keep 2existing schedules...or are the old OCIs too over precautious?
Or mayb it's P1's idea of cutting down their FREE services costs? rclxub.gif

Wat say all Bros better versed in car mainenance issues...? tongue.gif

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To me 10K interval with semi synthetic is totally fine. At 5k, the oil still looks brand new
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 11 2013, 02:09 PM)
To me 10K interval with semi synthetic is totally fine. At 5k, the oil still looks brand new
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Izzit becoz the old 5k Km OCIs were originally meant for Mineral EOs...? hmm.gif
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I suppose so. 5k for mineral and semi synthetic is what they said.
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I ask them to check everything. Anyway the SA told me those tires mmg noisy, I was not the first to komplen doh.gif
Why not OK? blink.gif
SE is 15"
Normal tires, nothing to shout about.

There are a few other brands for that size, Falken ZE912, for example. I forgot about the others, need to dig throug the Fiesta Club forums, but yeah that size is rare.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 11 2013, 02:19 PM)
I suppose so. 5k for mineral and semi synthetic is what they said.
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Yup, seems so...
When SS EOs appear on the scene, those "fellas" din kno wat's 2b done...
So safest is 2group SS with mineral!

Now after all feedbacks & being time proven, those "fellas" must hv felt secure enuf 2remove previous anxieties over bad effects of using SS EOs for longer OCIs... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Firebird @ Aug 11 2013, 01:12 PM)
What is the service interval of Saga FLX?? 5000 km to 10000 km??
In the invoice it is stated that to service again at 11000 km but on the sticker at the windshield stated 6000 km. Even the ppl at customer service said 11000 km. Which 1 is correct?? Engine oil used was Syntium 800 SM 10w-40. Btw, is that engine oil Semi-synthetic?
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Please read 1st page 2nd post, it's very helpful service guide for new GaGa owner thumbup.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62335967
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 03:19 PM)
Please read 1st page 2nd post, it's very helpful service guide for new GaGa owner thumbup.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62335967
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Hi Bro YAB... notworthy.gif

Bro Firebird's headache is whether he shld follow the 6k Km (5k Km?) Or the 11k Km (10k Km?)...
If follow this thread's rec, it shld b the 5k Km one...

So shld he follow Gaga thread advice or the SC punya...? whistling.gif

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Hi guys, I just want to ask that the power steering oil, initially is it dark?Bcoz I felt that the SC forgot change to me the new one, and currently now my power steering oil is not full at all~
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eh if you using their high end range, that isn't the case; though the pricing  sweat.gif
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Just saw a group of blm club gaga pass by Mantin town. Got TT or outing ah?
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Update :

A good read & probably wld affect yr present views regarding OCIs...
Pls do find the time 2read till the end...

Best wishes... thumbup.gif

Link :
http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop-changing-your-oil.html

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going to make reservation for 3rd and final service at proton center, reaching 19,+++km mileage. after that i will add little spot light..anyone know where to get led spot light?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 03:19 PM)
Please read 1st page 2nd post, it's very helpful service guide for new GaGa owner thumbup.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=62335967
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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Aug 11 2013, 05:10 PM)
Hi guys, I just want to ask that the power steering oil, initially is it dark?Bcoz I felt that the SC forgot change to me the new one, and currently now my power steering oil is not full at all~
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New power steering fluid shld b same clean colour of new ATF... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 10 2013, 09:32 PM)
yesterday hu go whatsapp me at 1.30am asking about TT still on ke tak? lolz

I edi tidor at hotel laugh.gif
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funker belanja makan buah ~
tonight at 9pm onwards ~ meet at usual place the parking lot ~
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 11 2013, 07:15 PM)
funker belanja makan buah ~
tonight at 9pm onwards ~ meet at usual place the parking lot ~
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hallo....long time ....its been a while..~!
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makan buah sahaja? blink.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 11 2013, 07:32 PM)
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 11 2013, 05:27 PM)
Just saw a group of blm club gaga pass by Mantin town. Got TT or outing ah?
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prosboc got lotsa TT, which i have never join before

QUOTE(Speedodevo @ Aug 11 2013, 05:43 PM)
Eww, reach 70k already. $$$ flying  cry.gif
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60k ady finish woranti, y bother go bak plotong sc to serbis blink.gif u reli too richfag izit blink.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 05:15 PM)
Problem is if I was to use their high range ones, there are better offerings from other brands like Yokohama, Toyo, etc. Lol
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 11 2013, 02:09 PM)
To me 10K interval with semi synthetic is totally fine. At 5k, the oil still looks brand new
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so far, i've yet to experience a SS EO that can past 5k km without me complaining on the engine response/smoothness.

not even LM MOS2 lol.
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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Aug 11 2013, 05:10 PM)
Hi guys, I just want to ask that the power steering oil, initially is it dark?Bcoz I felt that the SC forgot change to me the new one, and currently now my power steering oil is not full at all~
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they are typically red (if using ATF lol) or orange/yellow.

no you don't fill it to full. you fill it between full/low line which from the canister, typically it's around half tank/low ish visibly
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well, yokohama's high end aren't cheap either. if we're to compare it's best to compare with in the same range/category, and needless to say, anything slapped with the word "Advan" on it majority of malaysians avoid like a plague lol.
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fuh comfort 80%

so when you buying?
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so when you buying?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2013, 08:24 PM)
well, yokohama's high end aren't cheap either. if we're to compare it's best to compare with in the same range/category, and needless to say, anything slapped with the word "Advan" on it majority of malaysians avoid like a plague lol.
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Back in the old days, AD01 was overwhelmed. Be it street racer or track practice lap, people like it so much. However, AD02 doesn't seem up on par with its competitor, partly because "B" branch "P" series tyre the competitor offer a slightly cheaper solution, back then the Hongda new toy rear wheel drive put the "B" brand and standard tyre, suddenly AD02 standard has been pulled down by all these placebo effecting the entire market. Despite some good review of AD03 later trying to save their reputation, but majority of the public took a step back and observe between "B" brand and Yoko. Until today, the dilemma still surrounding Yoko as mixture of review surrounding. Believer will continue to support, observer will continue to observe, ranter will continue to rant whatever the fuck they heard bad about it but never bother to try the product by themselves.

If ask me, as 1 of the earliest batch Yoko user on the AD01, I have never try to protect their reputation. The feeling of having these tyres in your car is so close to your heart. By changing the tyres alone, despite it's a same widthness with an ordinary Cibaistone tyre, but the AD01 will kena sagat on the same rim on the same car with the same suspension setup. Reason being, the rim guard groove is so damn thick until I had to roll my fender to clear it. As and when you drive, sand and stone got suck up and hitting on wheel arch that kind of weird feeling makes you feels like driving a track car. When you have not enough horse power, you get the car jump forward instead of wheelspin. Under wet condition, I feel the car skid, fun enough to know where the car is skidding to and my next steering reaction suppose to be what, I have all that on my palm and I know where my car will end up exactly. Only another Yoko AD user have this kinda feeling, and able to share within their small AD user community.

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 11 2013, 08:41 PM)
Faye bought it and she is ready for speedfest with that tyres... not me... smile.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 08:50 PM)
Back in the old days, AD01 was overwhelmed. Be it street racer or track practice lap, people like it so much. However, AD02 doesn't seem up on par with its competitor, partly because "B" branch "P" series tyre the competitor offer a slightly cheaper solution, back then the Hongda new toy rear wheel drive put the "B" brand and standard tyre, suddenly AD02 standard has been pulled down by all these placebo effecting the entire market. Despite some good review of AD03 later trying to save their reputation, but majority of the public took a step back and observe between "B" brand and Yoko. Until today, the dilemma still surrounding Yoko as mixture of review surrounding. Believer will continue to support, observer will continue to observe, ranter will continue to rant whatever the f*** they heard bad about it but never bother to try the product by themselves.

If ask me, as 1 of the earliest batch Yoko user on the AD01, I have never try to protect their reputation. The feeling of having these tyres in your car is so close to your heart. By changing the tyres alone, despite it's a same widthness with an ordinary Cibaistone tyre, but the AD01 will kena sagat on the same rim on the same car with the same suspension setup. Reason being, the rim guard groove is so damn thick until I had to roll my fender to clear it. As and when you drive, sand and stone got suck up and hitting on wheel arch that kind of weird feeling makes you feels like driving a track car. When you have not enough horse power, you get the car jump forward instead of wheelspin. Under wet condition, I feel the car skid, fun enough to know where the car is skidding to and my next steering reaction suppose to be what, I have all that on my palm and I know where my car will end up exactly. Only another Yoko AD user have this kinda feeling, and able to share within their small AD user community.
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EXACTLY what's going on the scene atm.
so i just went "f*** it" and try it myself because i can't find anyone else who tried/willing to try sad.gif

and yea, that's the consensus of using the neova tires, you just KNOW what's going on with the tire/wheel/car nod.gif
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Guys i got a question .. for the tires .. since I'm using SE 1.6 .. the stock is 195 50 15 .. according to the instruction, I should pump 29 front and 26 rear. Is it okay ?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 11 2013, 09:18 PM)
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Guys for the tire pressure .. since my tyres are 195 50 15, should I follow the manual and pump 29 psi for front and 26 psi for rear ?
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 11 2013, 09:18 PM)
Sorry last minuute ajak. got fruits in car boot
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 09:47 PM)
Guys i got a question .. for the tires .. since I'm using SE 1.6 .. the stock is 195 50 15 .. according to the instruction, I should pump 29 front and 26 rear. Is it okay ?
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If it is okay to you then you can stick with it. Or you can test various settings till you're satisfied. Just don't pump 40 can liao. icon_idea.gif

For me personally, no. I feel it is a bit under inflated.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 10:08 PM)
sorry ya, a bit last minute. I ada open house to attend.
If it is okay to you then you can stick with it. Or you can test various settings till you're satisfied. Just don't pump 40 can liao.  icon_idea.gif

For me personally, no. I feel it is a bit under inflated.
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Then uhmm ... how much u pump normally for front and back ??


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35F 32R
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 10:10 PM)
35F 32R
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shocking.gif walaoz ... won't explode meh .. so high @_@

btw .. I found a problem ... my fuel went 1 bar ... I tot no more petrol liao .. suddenly I go pump ... only filled in 23L (RM44) =.= walaoz ... how to ngam ngam finish the tank ? my petrol still got 17L inside when it's at 1 bar ...
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:11 PM)
shocking.gif walaoz ... won't explode meh .. so high @_@

btw .. I found a problem ... my fuel went 1 bar ... I tot no more petrol liao .. suddenly I go pump ... only filled in 23L (RM44) =.= walaoz ... how to ngam ngam finish the tank ? my petrol still got 17L inside when it's at 1 bar ...
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if explode edi I wont be here replying to you lorh... lolz

how to ngam ngam finish the tank ah? drive till car cannot go, that is ngam ngam finish the tank.

If you want to fill in more than RM50, then drive till the yellow light (low petrol indicator) turns on and blinks.

But be advised, do that everyday, in two years time you are looking forward to change your fuel pump. icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 10:14 PM)
if explode edi I wont be here replying to you lorh... lolz

how to ngam ngam finish the tank ah? drive till car cannot go, that is ngam ngam finish the tank.

If you want to fill in more than RM50, then drive till the yellow light (low petrol indicator) turns on and blinks.

But be advised, do that everyday, in two years time you are looking forward to change your fuel pump. icon_idea.gif
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why change fuel pump leh ?...

my old car can show me properly ... can't be this car cannot what @@
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the lower the fuel level, the more work the fuel pump gonna work.

So, everyday low on petrol = fuel pump work harder = kaput.
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Then uhmm ... how much u pump normally for front and back ??
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I usually do around 32F 30R for those stock Silverstones. Simply because the stock tires are quite hard to begin with.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 10:10 PM)
35F 32R
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On those stock M5s, it's gonna be bumpy like mad doh.gif

QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:17 PM)
why change fuel pump leh ?...

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Because it has to work harder to suck fuel from the tank, and if you run out of fuel, the pump will burn.
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guys, hello to all the member in here smile.gif

wish to join in this club asap! haha..
im actually waiting for my new saga to arrive..huhu..hope that this week will be getting my new car..and would like to ask normally you guys TT at where ya? sri petaling? smile.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:20 PM)
On those stock M5s, it's gonna be bumpy like mad doh.gif
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He asked what I pumped in only mah... dint ask what is my donuts...

Honest also salah kah? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:20 PM)
I usually do around 32F 30R for those stock Silverstones. Simply because the stock tires are quite hard to begin with.
On those stock M5s, it's gonna be bumpy like mad doh.gif
Because it has to work harder to suck fuel from the tank, and if you run out of fuel, the pump will burn.
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Har ... I didn't know that woh.. I thought you go to petrol station .. when you pump the fuel, the fuel is actually being push into our petrol tank from the refuelling pump 1 ?

Our petrol tank inside got "function" to suck petrol from it 1 uh @@



Okay okay .. I guess I must go back to the petrol station to pump it at 32F 30R
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He asked what I pumped in only mah... dint ask what is my donuts...

Honest also salah kah? laugh.gif
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I bukan say u salah also, just telling u ma dry.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:23 PM)
I bukan say u salah also, just telling u ma dry.gif
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Har ... I didn't know that woh.. I thought you go to petrol station .. when you pump the fuel, the fuel is actually being push into our petrol tank from the refuelling pump 1 ?

Our petrol tank inside got "function" to suck petrol from it 1 uh @@
Okay okay .. I guess I must go back to the petrol station to pump it at 32F 30R
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The fuel pump sucks the petrol from your fuel tank and delivers it to your engine lar.

When you start your car, you twist the key to the second notch (just before ignition), you will hear a "weeeeee" sound coming from under your rear seats. That's your fuel pump.

As for tire pressure, each person may have different preference, just experiment until you get the pressure you like smile.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:23 PM)
Har ... I didn't know that woh.. I thought you go to petrol station .. when you pump the fuel, the fuel is actually being push into our petrol tank from the refuelling pump 1 ?

Our petrol tank inside got "function" to suck petrol from it 1 uh @@
Okay okay .. I guess I must go back to the petrol station to pump it at 32F 30R
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engine at the front, petrol tank at the back... no fuel pump how to supply petrol to the engine?

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get used to the bumpiness then next time sit what car also will feel comfortable... lolz
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Now I sit in dugong dem comfy wub.gif
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engine at the front, petrol tank at the back... no fuel pump how to supply petrol to the engine?
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carb cars tade fuel pump oso whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:27 PM)
Now I sit in dugong dem comfy  wub.gif
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now I sit in Hilux also dem comfy wub.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:28 PM)
carb cars tade fuel pump oso  whistling.gif
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saga blm/fl/flx ada carb one meh? whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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BTW, these few days in the city, today get back into my FLX, OMFG so uncomfy.... >.<

But I love my throttle pedal. wub.gif wub.gif

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Hi Everybody!!  notworthy.gif

Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Yup, saw this also on offer @local Tesco here up North...lots & lots...1 mountain high!!
Also @RM139...

Hv yu used it b4?  tongue.gif
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Last time i used Total Quartz 9000 5W30 for 4 bottles until my local workshop stop carrying that brand. So far not bad compare to the oil i used. Better than Shell and Petronas FS EO. Anyway it is SN API (i know it has nothing to do with protection and performance), as long as i confident with this brand, why not?
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:28 PM)
carb cars tade fuel pump oso  whistling.gif
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Errr.... where do you get that shit?

http://youtu.be/c0arQ9PABBQ?t=36s

Got, it's called AC pump located at the right side of the engine near the small tiny mushroom there

user posted image

user posted image

FYI, fuel pump oftenly burn off is because when there's least pressure(low fuel), the rotor blank spin will emit high heat that burn off the carbon brush. Fuel itself is part of the "coolant" for the ac motor.

user posted image
user posted image

Hence, those who burnt their fuel pump even if they don't empty their tank often, are caused by clogged up fuel filter like Scotty Kilmer mentioned. When pressure overwhelmed BEFORE the fuel regulator, the fuel pump are instructed to work harder but the rotor unable to spin through due to blockage.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:28 PM)
carb cars tade fuel pump oso  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 11 2013, 10:28 PM)
now I sit in Hilux also dem comfy wub.gif
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Then normally what you recommend ? pump at 1 bar or wait till it blinks ?
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 11 2013, 10:34 PM)
Last time i used Total Quartz 9000 5W30 for 4 bottles until my local workshop stop carrying that brand.  So far not bad compare to the oil i used. Better than Shell and Petronas FS EO. Anyway it is SN API (i know it has nothing to do with protection and performance), as long as i confident with this brand, why not?
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Yup, Bro...it's APi SN compared to SM of Shell Helix Ultra that me bought b4...
Regret not taking at least a bottle...
Wat stopped me was me still hv 1 bottle of Shell FS, 2 bottles of Mobil 1 FS & 1 Magnatec SS in my storeroom...

Mayb if still on offer, me go get 1 for future use...shelf life is 5 years, rite?
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 10:43 PM)
Errr.... where do you get that shit?

http://youtu.be/c0arQ9PABBQ?t=36s

Got, it's called AC pump located at the right side of the engine near the small tiny mushroom there

user posted image

user posted image

FYI, fuel pump oftenly burn off is because when there's least pressure(low fuel), the rotor blank spin will emit high heat that burn off the carbon brush. Fuel itself is part of the "coolant" for the ac motor.

user posted image
user posted image

Hence, those who burnt their fuel pump even if they don't empty their tank often, are caused by clogged up fuel filter like Scotty Kilmer mentioned. When pressure overwhelmed BEFORE the fuel regulator, the fuel pump are instructed to work harder but the rotor unable to spin through due to blockage.
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notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

I always tot carbs draw fuel via vacuum rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 11 2013, 10:49 PM)
notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif

I always tot carbs draw fuel via vacuum  rclxub.gif
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I can hear my kancil fuel pump sound just like gaga, but very weak one.
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:46 PM)
Then normally what you recommend ? pump at 1 bar or wait till it blinks ?
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When it start to blink, it's time to fuel up. If you're comfortable, just do it when it's 1 bar before it's blink. Who knows sometimes if you couldn't find a gas station, you may have to stretch it a little bit. Here' s a video that explain to you why low fuel/empty tank can fry your fuel pump


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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Aug 11 2013, 11:02 PM)
I can hear my kancil fuel pump sound just like gaga, but very weak one.
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Your ganjil fuel injeksen? Change engine ady? Otherwise, AC pump no sound. The weee sound is bad aircond bearing nod.gif Btw, the "thing" still with me will only be posted within these few days. Sorry for the delay due to holiday notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 11:17 PM)
When it start to blink, it's time to fuel up. If you're comfortable, just do it when it's 1 bar before it's blink. Who knows sometimes if you couldn't find a gas station, you may have to stretch it a little bit. Here' s a video that explain to you why low fuel/empty tank can fry your fuel pump


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hmm but problem is that ... at 1 bar (before it blinks) I still got 15L in my tank .. @_@ that's freaking a lot ... my old car .. I used to only refuel it at "E" ... then easily can pump in like RM66 (full tank was 40L (RM76) ...


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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:46 PM)
Then normally what you recommend ? pump at 1 bar or wait till it blinks ?
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left 2 bars, then go pump.

QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 11:20 PM)
Your ganjil fuel injeksen? Change engine ady? Otherwise, AC pump no sound. The weee sound is bad aircond bearing nod.gif Btw, the "thing" still with me will only be posted within these few days. Sorry for the delay due to holiday notworthy.gif
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then my neighbor's kancil A/C bearings must be very very very bad.... the wheee sound even louder than my CVT sound x 10 times. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 11:30 PM)
hmm but problem is that ... at 1 bar (before it blinks) I still got 15L in my tank .. @_@ that's freaking a lot ... my old car .. I used to only refuel it at "E" ... then easily can pump in like RM66 (full tank was 40L (RM76) ...
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No further comment. You ask, I tell and that's how the clock works. GaGa has relatively shallow reserve area in the tank, therefore the fuel float tend to give warning earlier(which is a good thing). Now it seems like you're not happy with the suggestion, why don't you try drying the tank to see how much further you can go next time. Good luck smile.gif
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35F 32R
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 11:39 PM)
No further comment. You ask, I tell and that's how the clock works. GaGa has relatively shallow reserve area in the tank, therefore the fuel float tend to give warning earlier(which is a good thing). Now it seems like you're not happy with the suggestion, why don't you try drying the tank to see how much further you can go next time. Good luck smile.gif
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carb cars tade fuel pump oso  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Aug 11 2013, 10:34 PM)
Last time i used Total Quartz 9000 5W30 for 4 bottles until my local workshop stop carrying that brand.  So far not bad compare to the oil i used. Better than Shell and Petronas FS EO. Anyway it is SN API (i know it has nothing to do with protection and performance), as long as i confident with this brand, why not?
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yeah it is API SN certified so no matter what shouldn't suck too laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2013, 11:54 PM)
really a? no wonder no "weeeeee" sound laugh.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 12 2013, 12:16 AM)
Your car rosak. You go ask KC Lau and see whether he got ""WEEEE" sound geh whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 11 2013, 08:26 PM)
so far, i've yet to experience a SS EO that can past 5k km without me complaining on the engine response/smoothness.

not even LM MOS2 lol.
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:11 PM)
shocking.gif walaoz ... won't explode meh .. so high @_@
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Passenger tyres are rated up to 44 psi. 30-ish is not high.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 12:43 AM)
I stay within 4-5k RPM. So far haven't used an engine oil until it deteriorates and feel sluggish.
Passenger tyres are rated up to 44 psi. 30-ish is not high.
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When I was a car noob, I once ran all 4 tires on 43psi / 300kpa, because on the tire it says that was the maximum pressure.

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thanks Funker for the fruit XD..nice...but my mouth very smelly ==... gorilla ate the most... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Aug 12 2013, 01:09 AM)
thanks Fubar for the fruit XD..nice...but my mouth very smelly ==... gorilla ate the most... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Aug 12 2013, 01:21 AM)
u dumb like fark... since when fubar came ? funker la aduiii.....

btw...

thanks all that attend the buah-buahan TT ~

we got special guest : ants from melaka ~ tongue.gif
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Kena bitten by ant. tomorrow maybe became ant man.
sorry again for very short notice. too mch inhale smelly fruit smell cause of that. btw tq for all that came to save my face. lol.
Next time will try persuade fruity to come tt.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 12 2013, 01:49 AM)
Kena bitten by ant. tomorrow maybe became ant man.
sorry again for very short notice. too mch inhale smelly fruit smell cause of that. btw tq for all that came to save my face. lol.
Next time will try persuade fruity to come tt.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 12 2013, 01:49 AM)
Kena bitten by ant. tomorrow maybe became ant man.
sorry again for very short notice. too mch inhale smelly fruit smell cause of that. btw tq for all that came to save my face. lol.
Next time will try persuade fruity to come tt.
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Aug 12 2013, 01:51 AM)
lol..same here...becos of the gorilla....its ok , but at last we have tasted and fresh fruit from melaka  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 12:59 AM)
When I was a car noob, I once ran all 4 tires on 43psi / 300kpa, because on the tire it says that was the maximum pressure.

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 12:59 AM)
When I was a car noob, I once ran all 4 tires on 43psi / 300kpa, because on the tire it says that was the maximum pressure.

doh.gif  doh.gif
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Even when I'm not a car noob, I also tried. Actually not too bad, except that it's really more bouncy when going through pot holes. Tried it for about 2 weeks, still very even tyre wear and good feedback.
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wow. i just go for holiday 4 days.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 11 2013, 11:20 PM)
Your ganjil fuel injeksen? Change engine ady? Otherwise, AC pump no sound. The weee sound is bad aircond bearing nod.gif Btw, the "thing" still with me will only be posted within these few days. Sorry for the delay due to holiday notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 12:59 AM)
When I was a car noob, I once ran all 4 tires on 43psi / 300kpa, because on the tire it says that was the maximum pressure.

doh.gif  doh.gif
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btw regarding the yellow foglamp tint.d output will be yellow even though not using michiba bulbs. my foglamp wif yellow lens but with slightly white bulbs (shud b 5000K,need to confirm wif kenjilew/nick) output like michiba 3000K. so i guess u can tint it with yellow film. smile.gif
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thanks funker for the lulian!
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Didn't la, but over time one of the tires became swollen sweat.gif

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 08:25 AM)
Even when I'm not a car noob, I also tried. Actually not too bad, except that it's really more bouncy when going through pot holes. Tried it for about 2 weeks, still very even tyre wear and good feedback.
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Aug 12 2013, 09:32 AM)
winrar notworthy.gif

btw regarding the yellow foglamp tint.d output will be yellow even though not using michiba bulbs. my foglamp wif yellow lens but with slightly white bulbs (shud b 5000K,need to confirm wif kenjilew/nick) output like michiba 3000K. so i guess u can tint it with yellow film. smile.gif
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160km/h is a everyday speed tongue.gif
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I didn't put 43 psi, just 42 psi. Haha. I guess your swollen tyre is because of hitting pothole. Mine is totally fine
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160km/h is a everyday speed tongue.gif
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Only got once in North South Expressway.

In KL highway, you'll know where the speedtraps are. Look out for the radio car that stopped under the bridge
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thanks funker for the lulian!
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:34 AM)
Only got once in North South Expressway.

In KL highway, you'll know where the speedtraps are. Look out for the radio car that stopped under the bridge
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:10 AM)
160km/h is a everyday speed tongue.gif
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bila ngv bot? whole world waiting lerh
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 12 2013, 11:35 AM)
sometimes no radio car at all ... the polis just sit under the divider waiting with the speed camera already
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 11:35 AM)
160 km/h is basically red lining for me. love the auto laugh.gif

bila ngv bot? whole world waiting lerh
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I haven't decide on the ECU management yet. Standalone or piggyback. Piggyback drawback is no full ignition/fuel mapping control. Standalone drawback is, more cutting on ECU harness, original ECU must be running together with standalone ECU for aircon/AT to work. Meter cluster probably screw up because original ECU lost signals after cutting so many wires from it.

And finally, I'm sure very hard to sell the car after these modifications.

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:44 AM)
I haven't decide on the ECU management yet. Standalone or piggyback. Piggyback drawback is no full ignition/fuel mapping control. Standalone drawback is, more cutting on ECU harness, original ECU must be running together with standalone ECU for aircon/AT to work. Meter cluster probably screw up because original ECU lost signals after cutting so many wires from it.

And finally, I'm sure very hard to sell the car after these modifications.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 11:34 AM)
o thought i was missing out much, i don't eat durian XD
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ada rambutan + mangoesteen... sweat.gif
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Then uhmm ... how much u pump normally for front and back ??
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160 km/h is basically red lining for me. love the auto laugh.gif

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When I was going at 160, it was only at 3.5~4.5K RPM. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 10:09 PM)
Then uhmm ... how much u pump normally for front and back ??
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32F 30R ..... but longggg time din pump ald probably today / tmr need to go pump again as can see starting flat



Well what a rush week ~ sorry for unable to attend the previous 2 TTs ... finding how good if we able to have the traffic condition as last week at KL ... whack like hell still able to clock 9.4L/100km and after a long time which i able to whack 160kmh at Jln Loke Yew Highway all the way from leisure mall ~

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1. NGV mod - For $$ Saving on Petrol


After last week went to few shop to ask for NGV found out it is damn many thing need to mod if want to convert to NGV beside also got alot of package all got pro & cons ... really dunno how to decide .... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Aug 12 2013, 12:26 PM)
When I was going at 160, it was only at 3.5~4.5K RPM.  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 12:16 PM)
My combination on normal use is 30F 29R...similar to recommended
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hmm i probably have to really lower the air pressure during this coming speed fest. 32 both front/rear, and after touge session front was 40 rear 37 rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 11 2013, 11:52 PM)
hmm.gif maybe I just need time to get used to this new technology thingie ... first time owning a SAGA
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You should be happy about it that gaga 1 bar left still got fuel..The old Avanza more teruk..Fuel gauge not yet point to E car already no fuel and engine die....this was due to the fuel tank lower pan design is all separated although still got fuel the fuel can't get suck up by the fuel pump....

QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:44 AM)
I don't know about you but usually I'll notice either radio car or opposite cars signalling.
I haven't decide on the ECU management yet. Standalone or piggyback. Piggyback drawback is no full ignition/fuel mapping control. Standalone drawback is, more cutting on ECU harness, original ECU must be running together with standalone ECU for aircon/AT to work. Meter cluster probably screw up because original ECU lost signals after cutting so many wires from it.

And finally, I'm sure very hard to sell the car after these modifications.
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Standalone can control your AC also. Standalone can replace your stock ECU and become your new ECU. You want to find a good person to do the job find GT Auto at Sunway. They are very good at it.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 12:35 PM)
You should be happy about it that gaga 1 bar left still got fuel..The old Avanza more teruk..Fuel gauge not yet point to E car already no fuel and engine die....this was due to the fuel tank lower pan design is all separated although still got fuel the fuel can't get suck up by the fuel pump....
Standalone can control your AC also. Standalone can replace your stock ECU and become your new ECU. You want to find a good person to do the job find GT Auto at Sunway. They are very good at it.
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Perhaps only specific standalone. Megasquirt may or may not be able to do it with its ready-available firmware. Moreover I'm on AT, I need ECU to signal it.
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reaper, this....

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reaper, this....

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reaper, this....
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laugh die me XD
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:10 AM)
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Says the one who u turn back coz ketinggalan after first corner on hari raya midnight run.
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Their acceleration is beyond what my car can do.
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Got or not.....my car stock 1.3 only woh some more got 3 uncle inside including me....gorilla car only 2 person..who's the guy that ride with Kenji....

btw, just to share with fellow gaga owner on my handling setup. This is an old picture....the improvement on the handling is not just adding bars..its more than that....you need to have an idea how you want your car to behave so that you mod the car to your idea.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:10 PM)
Got or not.....my car stock 1.3 only woh some more got 3 uncle inside including me....gorilla car only 2 person..who's the guy that ride with Kenji....

btw, just to share with fellow gaga owner on my handling setup. This is an old picture....the improvement on the handling is not just adding bars..its more than that....you need to have an idea how you want your car to behave so that you mod the car to your idea.
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other than bars and adjustable suspension... what did i missed ?
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Hi All

Ive been following and reading this Saga Club thread for a few weeks now. There are very useful tips that ive learnt throughout. Im also driving a Saga.

Would appreciate if I could join the club as well. More info on this pls?

Thanks.
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kenji, adjustable not just plug in and kao tim one...you need to find the setting that is right for the car. This one is individual you the driver you decide how the car behaves to you then only you happy mah.....like you order nasi lemak you want mata kerbau but the guy give us other stuff you can eat but you feel not syok...

Also you missing your balls...Kakakakakaka
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Hi All

Ive been following and reading this Saga Club thread for a few weeks now. There are very useful tips that ive learnt throughout. Im also driving a Saga.

Would appreciate if I could join the club as well. More info on this pls?

Thanks.
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kenji, adjustable not just plug in and kao tim one...you need to find the setting that is right for the car. This one is individual you the driver you decide how the car behaves to you then only you happy mah.....like you order nasi lemak you want mata kerbau but the guy give us other stuff you can eat but you feel not syok...

Also you missing your balls...Kakakakakaka
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:10 PM)
Got or not.....my car stock 1.3 only woh some more got 3 uncle inside including me....gorilla car only 2 person..who's the guy that ride with Kenji....

btw, just to share with fellow gaga owner on my handling setup. This is an old picture....the improvement on the handling is not just adding bars..its more than that....you need to have an idea how you want your car to behave so that you mod the car to your idea.
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nice and clean.... i still not confidence on my handling, coz still stock... laugh.gif

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kenji, got time you let me test drive your car. I want to see what's the difference you have from mine..
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 12 2013, 02:29 PM)
nice and clean.... i still not confidence on my handling, coz still stock...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:30 PM)
kenji, got time you let me test drive your car. I want to see what's the difference you have from mine..
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reaper, actually the stock FLX handling is not bad. Not confident because you haven't push the car until the limit. Most of the time, your car can still go one....just that in your heart there's a barrier stopping you to go further.....


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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:37 PM)
reaper, actually the stock FLX handling is not bad. Not confident because you haven't push the car until the limit. Most of the time, your car can still go one....just that in your heart there's a barrier stopping you to go further.....
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:10 PM)
Got or not.....my car stock 1.3 only woh some more got 3 uncle inside including me....gorilla car only 2 person..who's the guy that ride with Kenji....

btw, just to share with fellow gaga owner on my handling setup. This is an old picture....the improvement on the handling is not just adding bars..its more than that....you need to have an idea how you want your car to behave so that you mod the car to your idea.
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lol my car will slow down on accelerating past 130km/h. your car was at 160/170 km/h on 4th gear with a LOT of rpm to spare and a 5th gear.

such is life for an old 1.5 3 speed auto lol. the only thing that my car is proud of is it's 4g15 engine that's from mitsu and it's a trialed & proven engine that's able to last almost forever (14 years with the family after all, first hand car from my mom)

ps: damn clean underneath laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 02:45 PM)
lol my car will slow down on accelerating past 130km/h. your car was at 160/170 km/h on 4th gear with a LOT of rpm to spare and a 5th gear.

such is life for an old 1.5 3 speed auto lol. the only thing that my car is proud of is it's 4g15 engine that's from mitsu and it's a trialed & proven engine that's able to last almost forever (14 years with the family after all, first hand car from my mom)

ps: damn clean underneath laugh.gif
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Quazacolt, I like your iswara leh....I see the engine also feel excited....because I can lay my hands all over it....molest until I syok syok......I also grow up with the 12V 4G1 series....since my uncle had 1 of the earliest saga before that he had a 120Y the car is sold to an old uncle but still driving on the road leh...no plate was NQ 1748 solid maroon colour....I had lots of memories with the 120Y the 2B pencil like needle on the gauge...Hahahaha....

Not to be ego or brag, but I would like to try taking on a 1.6 gaga SE with my 1.3. I want to see how far will my gaga get left behind.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:56 PM)
Quazacolt, I like your iswara leh....I see the engine also feel excited....because I can lay my hands all over it....molest until I syok syok......I also grow up with the 12V 4G1 series....since my uncle had 1 of the earliest saga before that he had a 120Y the car is sold to an old uncle but still driving on the road leh...no plate was NQ 1748 solid maroon colour....I had lots of memories with the 120Y the 2B pencil like needle on the gauge...Hahahaha....

Not to be ego or brag, but I would like to try taking on a 1.6 gaga SE with my 1.3. I want to see how far will my gaga get left behind.... sweat.gif
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haha maybe next time let you molest lo... now full of carbon/leaked EO sad.gif
i just molested my engine this morning to check on EO level, dipped a bit so need to top up, and the ATF dipstick since i bumped my AT box sump (again sigh). however it seems like there's only very minor paint chip.

it is black, and can see exposed metal already. gonna respray it this or next weekend lol, have to find some day to ACE and buy high temp paint sprays

if the 1.6 is an auto, you have plentiful of chance brows.gif
for me, so long i don't end up last in my own category (like i did on dato sagor first track experience) i'm happy enough. and yes, i'm second last on last speedfest surprisingly faster than a same 4g15 iswara that's on MANUAL. (he is a first timer while i'm second timer on a track however still first timer on elite speedway usj)

my noob ness shows as well as i went in with 32psi on my tires (everyone else advised 28-29 rofl) and lost grip way too fast going on estimated 36-39 after im done on my runs. (5 laps) tires completely lost grip by the 3rd lap >.>
so yeah, this time i'll be prepared with a tire pressure gauge LOL!
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:37 PM)
reaper, actually the stock FLX handling is not bad. Not confident because you haven't push the car until the limit. Most of the time, your car can still go one....just that in your heart there's a barrier stopping you to go further.....
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Yes compare to car like Turtle and Biba our handling is alot better but still, feel the chasis very fragile when tackle corner over speed of 90 ~ seems like the front and rear of the car is bending on a different direction ... FYI i installed Front Strut and Rear Seat Brace bar only
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:25 PM)
Just go for the TT that the guys organize....the boss V12...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:37 PM)
reaper, actually the stock FLX handling is not bad. Not confident because you haven't push the car until the limit. Most of the time, your car can still go one....just that in your heart there's a barrier stopping you to go further.....
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 02:41 PM)
that one not bad, at least using ori GTR parts, modding a teana. IINM thailand modders tongue.gif (old pic)
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:37 PM)
reaper, actually the stock FLX handling is not bad. Not confident because you haven't push the car until the limit. Most of the time, your car can still go one....just that in your heart there's a barrier stopping you to go further.....
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the ridiculous body roll is the barrier. lol

In stock form, the car can still corner faster, but the amount of body roll robs off the confidence.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 12 2013, 03:37 PM)
In stock form, the car can still corner faster, but the amount of body roll robs off the confidence.
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lol experienced the older saga/iswara body roll? even worse, totally like boat as if going to topple over.

i still remembered people taking pictures of my car during my first track day on stock suspensions, the car looked like it wanted to roll over and a huge majority of the corners my car tripoded laugh.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 02:56 PM)
Not to be ego or brag, but I would like to try taking on a 1.6 gaga SE with my 1.3. I want to see how far will my gaga get left behind.... sweat.gif
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What for wanna challenge CVT unsure.gif

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 03:40 PM)
lol experienced the older saga/iswara body roll? even worse, totally like boat as if going to topple over.

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oh ya, forgot to mention, as you suspected, the front torque mounting was indeed dead. (likely thanks to the accident back then)
rear torque mounting can't really inspect unless i poke my head in however with the engine flinging back so much while testing, i'd rather not rofl!

annnnddddd as i NEED to have mountings with reinforced silicone injection (solid mountings too stiff for daily ride, and would rattle my dashboard too much especially after the accident as probably there are some broken clip/joints inside doh.gif ) due to them on pure stock breaking/dying WAAAAAY too fast (2-3 months) thanks to red lining/hard revving lol.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 03:59 PM)
Iswara is lower than BLM/FL/FLX  unsure.gif Even if the car does not lean, the driver will be leaning a lot due to the tall seating position
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wira yes, iswara no. never seen stock iswara's on 13"? fender gap can probably fit in a whole head (if your head is small la laugh.gif)

if you used my car, my car was lowered to the max on negative 2.7 camber somemore LOL
(so my front looks like it's especially lowered where it fact it isn't)

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oh ya, and speaking of seating position, the stock seats are WAY higher than the semi bucket seats i'm using now. to the point i made a comment on an old post about how my ICE is better because the tweeter positions are higher now (as my seat is lower)

and eh, provided you don't get your ass flung to the windows of your car under extreme cornering laugh.gif (which as i mentioned, was the last straw for me to change to my current seats)

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 04:02 PM)
wira yes, iswara no. never seen stock iswara's on 13"? fender gap can probably fit in a whole head (if your head is small la laugh.gif)

if you used my car, my car was lowered to the max on negative 2.7 camber somemore LOL
(so my front looks like it's especially lowered where it fact it isn't)

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oh ya, and speaking of seating position, the stock seats are WAY higher than the semi bucket seats i'm using now. to the point i made a comment on an old post about how my ICE is better because the tweeter positions are higher now (as my seat is lower)

and eh, provided you don't get your ass flung to the windows of your car under extreme cornering laugh.gif (which as i mentioned, was the last straw for me to change to my current seats)
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Yea I drove the iswara with stock rims and suspension for many years, after that was the Waja. When I first got the FLX, I was pretty sure it was the tallest sedan I've ever driven brows.gif Ironically, it was also the one with the least bodyroll sweat.gif (yes, it leans less than the Waja on corners rclxub.gif ). All of them were stock suspensions.....
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 04:11 PM)
Kasi masuk r3aper's head  rclxms.gif

Yea I drove the iswara with stock rims and suspension for many years, after that was the Waja. When I first got the FLX, I was pretty sure it was the tallest sedan I've ever driven  brows.gif Ironically, it was also the one with the least bodyroll  sweat.gif (yes, it leans less than the Waja on corners  rclxub.gif ). All of them were stock suspensions.....
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 04:11 PM)
Kasi masuk r3aper's head  rclxms.gif

Yea I drove the iswara with stock rims and suspension for many years, after that was the Waja. When I first got the FLX, I was pretty sure it was the tallest sedan I've ever driven  brows.gif Ironically, it was also the one with the least bodyroll  sweat.gif (yes, it leans less than the Waja on corners  rclxub.gif ). All of them were stock suspensions.....
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rear multi link and all
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 04:17 PM)
eh i'd have thought that the flx would body roll more than the waja lol
rear multi link and all
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Multilink or not got effect bodyroll geh meh rclxub.gif

Waja suspension quite soft, it's tuned for comfort. FLX mia suspension tuned more for handling, not surprisingly also not very comfortable.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 04:30 PM)
Multilink or not got effect bodyroll geh meh  rclxub.gif

Waja suspension quite soft, it's tuned for comfort. FLX mia suspension tuned more for handling, not surprisingly also not very comfortable.
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overall better suspension setup.
granted, this is coming from my overall hatred towards my tofu beam setup laugh.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twist-beam_rear_suspension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_suspension

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Guys, when I make a hard left corner at speeds over 100km/h, my left tyres are the one that screech. I thought the right tyres should be the one screeching with all the weight transferred to the right?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 04:36 PM)
overall better suspension setup.
granted, this is coming from my overall hatred towards my tofu beam setup laugh.gif

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twist-beam_rear_suspension
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_suspension

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I was just saying that bodyroll has little to do with whether a car has torsion beam or multilink brows.gif

Anyway, saying independent multilink is superior than torsion beam is a generalization, albeit a valid one. A professionally tuned tofu beam setup can still pwn a poorly setup multilink brows.gif

But if your multilink comes with a piece of 50kg metal, all bets are off whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 04:57 PM)
I was just saying that bodyroll has little to do with whether a car has torsion beam or multilink  brows.gif

Anyway, saying independent multilink is superior than torsion beam is a generalization, albeit a valid one. A professionally tuned tofu beam setup can still pwn a poorly setup multilink  brows.gif

But if your multilink comes with a piece of 50kg metal, all bets are off  whistling.gif
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that's why i linked the wiki ma, because it did mentioned that it would matter. although for the multi link, you would have additional cost/effort/weight to have an additional sway bar installed (stock or aftermarket) while the torsion beam technically is a big piece of sway bar by itself (which for iswara, works for shit until i got my rear ARB installed)

and yes, it is a generalization as i also realize that there are cars with torsion beam yet provides superior handling over multi links (there was a thread about it and i think you were posting in it too lol)
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 04:54 PM)
Guys, when I make a hard left corner at speeds over 100km/h, my left tyres are the one that screech. I thought the right tyres should be the one screeching with all the weight transferred to the right?
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it means you're driving a track car at almost 0 weight transfer/roll.

on a serious note, it could be uneven braking/locking that occurred? (assuming the sound you heard is indeed the tires and it is coming from left side)
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 12 2013, 05:02 PM)
it means you're driving a track car at almost 0 weight transfer/roll.

on a serious note, it could be uneven braking/locking that occurred? (assuming the sound you heard is indeed the tires and it is coming from left side)
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It's my Persona. No braking applied at that time, just whack the corner only.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 05:16 PM)
It's my Persona. No braking applied at that time, just whack the corner only.
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google:
https://www.google.com/search?q=left+tire+s...chrome&ie=UTF-8

first 2:
http://www.taurusclub.com/forum/82-mainten...rning-left.html
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/mechanical-...rning-left.html

generally sums up to suspension/mounting/bushes faulty, or alignment issue (eg: too much toe in/caster issue)
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the one in the pic looks like CPS mia...
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the one in the pic looks like CPS mia...
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lol... coz it only mention CAMPRO... but the car is satria... sweat.gif
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apa hal my head pulak..  doh.gif
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lol... coz it only mention CAMPRO... but the car is satria...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 03:59 PM)
What for wanna challenge CVT  unsure.gif
Iswara is lower than BLM/FL/FLX  unsure.gif Even if the car does not lean, the driver will be leaning a lot due to the tall seating position
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I want to see how fast is a CVT transmission go compare to a MT. I'm also eyeing on those 1.5 MT....
Not to confuse you my intention, it's not about who winning or more power it's more about knowing how much more potential can a 1.3 come up against the bigger CC car......this can help to know what the maximum the car can output.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 04:54 PM)
Guys, when I make a hard left corner at speeds over 100km/h, my left tyres are the one that screech. I thought the right tyres should be the one screeching with all the weight transferred to the right?
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Because your left tires has less weight hence spinning causing the sound...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 06:14 PM)
I want to see how fast is a CVT transmission go compare to a MT. I'm also eyeing on those 1.5 MT....
Not to confuse you my intention, it's not about who winning or more power it's more about knowing how much more potential can a 1.3 come up against the bigger CC car......this can help to know what the maximum the car can output.
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Then should compare to MT 1.6 cars, like Persona or Satria Neo.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 06:17 PM)
Because your left tires has less weight hence spinning causing the sound...
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you referring to air pressure? because if less weight, it should allow better weight shift towards the right (as per normal anyways) and the right should be screeching instead
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 12 2013, 06:45 PM)
Then should compare to MT 1.6 cars, like Persona or Satria Neo.
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Persona got MT? not same with Gen2 CPS all AT only..??
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Persona got MT? not same with Gen2 CPS all AT only..??
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Got la....remember you help kennywee check his clutch sound last week TT sweat.gif
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Got la....remember you help kennywee check his clutch sound last week TT  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 06:57 PM)
Persona got MT? not same with Gen2 CPS all AT only..??
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eh? I tot Gen2 CPS also available in MT?

I remember I saw one in classifieds a few months back.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 12 2013, 11:10 AM)
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Oh ya, don't know why yesterday driving half way not sure what happened, tripometer from 700+ suddenly reset to 0.0 when my mileage crossed 7000km.
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QUOTE(DonMe @ Aug 12 2013, 08:15 PM)
Oh ya, don't know why yesterday driving half way not sure what happened, tripometer from 700+ suddenly reset to 0.0 when my mileage crossed 7000km.
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You are saying his car or yours?  sweat.gif

titanrev it was me in Kenji's car  icon_rolleyes.gif

davidke20 will try to claim warranty for clutch pump next week at CoSE but haven't make appointment  unsure.gif
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kennywee, you better eat a lot of Ginseng before going....after they play taichi with you...then you can give them the lion roar...and (#%*#&#&$)*$#$#*....MCB, NMGH, DNLM...etc...then only they change...Hahahahaha...

BTW, when you get the car there, you test the clutch for the SA. You press the clutch and tell the SA to put his finger on the area where I put my finger there can feel the tak tak vibration through the finger and hear the sound. Don't just complain and tell them test themselves after they tell you no problem.....or biasa la..proton mah...
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My Gaga still at Cose. .waiting for spare parts cry.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 08:50 PM)
kennywee, you better eat a lot of Ginseng before going....after they play taichi with you...then you can give them the lion roar...and (#%*#&#&$)*$#$#*....MCB, NMGH, DNLM...etc...then only they change...Hahahahaha...

BTW, when you get the car there, you test the clutch for the SA. You press the clutch and tell the SA to put his finger on the area where I put my finger there can feel the tak tak vibration through the finger and hear the sound. Don't just complain and tell them test themselves after they tell you no problem.....or biasa la..proton mah...
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 08:50 PM)
kennywee, you better eat a lot of Ginseng before going....after they play taichi with you...then you can give them the lion roar...and (#%*#&#&$)*$#$#*....MCB, NMGH, DNLM...etc...then only they change...Hahahahaha...

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My Gaga still at Cose. .waiting for spare parts  cry.gif
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What is the most optimum speed to drive on the se 1.6stock?

I ttried chasing a Toyota harrier just now and I was at 140. Still feel very stable. I was thinking to go 160 but I scared burn too much fuel as my rpm was at 3k at 140
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eat too much later nosebleed....  shocking.gif

BTW, if got satay TT at Kajang, you wanna come? Only one straight highway from LEKAS to Kajang... biggrin.gif
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When ??
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When ??
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somewhere around next month kua...

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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 12 2013, 09:00 PM)
What is the most optimum speed to drive on the se 1.6stock?

I ttried chasing a Toyota harrier just now and I was at 140. Still feel very stable. I was thinking to go 160 but I scared burn too much fuel as my rpm was at 3k at 140
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 12 2013, 08:50 PM)
BTW, when you get the car there, you test the clutch for the SA. You press the clutch and tell the SA to put his finger on the area where I put my finger there can feel the tak tak vibration through the finger and hear the sound. Don't just complain and tell them test themselves after they tell you no problem.....or biasa la..proton mah...
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After ask them to feel the tak tak vibration, they will probably look up and say "problem? what problem? normal lah!"

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My Gaga still at Cose. .waiting for spare parts  cry.gif
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somewhere around next month kua...

I a bit chinaman, so this Chinese calander 7th, I rarely goes out at night, especially nearing the 14th... ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 12 2013, 09:00 PM)
What is the most optimum speed to drive on the se 1.6stock?

I ttried chasing a Toyota harrier just now and I was at 140. Still feel very stable. I was thinking to go 160 but I scared burn too much fuel as my rpm was at 3k at 140
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IIRC constant cruising around 90-100km/h is the most efficient speed.

I pernah bungkus Harrier when driving up Genting with full load in my 1.6 SE flex.gif

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you want to be fast, then you gotta burn more fuel.
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Technically I'm gaining extra 40 km h with my new saga haha
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eat too much later nosebleed....  shocking.gif

BTW, if got satay TT at Kajang, you wanna come? Only one straight highway from LEKAS to Kajang... biggrin.gif
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I took the corner again, quite confirm the screeching tyre is left tyre at left turn. It is the LDP turn near tractors Malaysia. It's super smooth curve over there, feels like made for speed.

I do still throttle while doing the curve. Maybe when weight shifted, the left tyre spun more.

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to old school 4 speeder ATs (i dont think got 3speeders for blm/fl/flx right? laugh.gif ):

Proton SP3 at around/less than 5k km ady turn watery even on cold start, shifting mechanism lagging like crap (no lubegard btw, as i was running in the new gasket/AT box oil sump)

most likely draining that shit this week prior to track day (tomorrow? or friday) so it can perform better with less wear :/
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after few almost 1k kms with cdrive2 tyres, and 3max bars, change stock brake pads, why i found it's easier for the tyre to give screeching sound when hard braking (straight road, jam brake for traffic light, slow cars or speed hump) and fast junction entering? emm, i'm not sure front (cdrive2) or rear (old goodyear)

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Last week going downhill at lekas after that whenever i stop at traffic light or on idle
the Cvt light will on ..then my car cant move cry.gif
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Last week going downhill at lekas after that whenever i stop at traffic light or on idle
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Last week going downhill at lekas after that whenever i stop at traffic light or on idle
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Does campro have TPS (throttle position sensor)?

I was just reading that TPS is not compulsory for ECU but without TPS, there will be such delay because the ECU can only react after seeing manifold air flow increase.
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QUOTE(blau-saga @ Aug 12 2013, 10:10 PM)
after few almost 1k kms with cdrive2 tyres, and 3max bars, change stock brake pads, why i found it's easier for the tyre to give screeching sound when hard braking (straight road, jam brake for traffic light, slow cars or speed hump) and fast junction entering? emm, i'm not sure front (cdrive2) or rear (old goodyear)
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maybe brand new brake pads, locks wheels/slows rotors faster than the tire can cope.
functions, due to the bars, they WILL work your suspension/tires harder (which is good)

i would not be too surprised if it's the c drive 2 as they are comfort tires, however if you are having mixed tires, best if you can first identify where is the source of the screech. and to be honest, better if you practice changing all 4 tires instead of 2/pair, while practicing good tire rotations for even wear on all 4 tires.
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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 13 2013, 12:48 AM)
Does campro have TPS (throttle position sensor)?

I was just reading that TPS is not compulsory for ECU but without TPS, there will be such delay because the ECU can only react after seeing manifold air flow increase.
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lhwj posted a picture of the TPS:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2835639/+1780#

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lhwj posted a picture of the TPS:

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2835639/+1780#

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That's the pedal position sensor

Throttle position sensor is on the throttlebody

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Arr. after changed to bendix metal king brake pad. Its giving me scratching rotor sound on my left side. The longer period i use the higher scratching sound. Initial no sound but after time to time sound is noticeable when below 20 km/h speed. Paiseh when at shoping center parking lot. My magician said nothing can be done as bendix is like that. He recommend me use aveo brake pad from GM.
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 13 2013, 06:28 AM)
That's the pedal position sensor

Throttle position sensor is on the throttlebody
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 AM)
Arr. after changed to bendix metal king brake pad. Its giving me scratching rotor sound on my left side. The longer period i use the higher scratching sound. Initial no sound but after time to time sound is noticeable when below 20 km/h speed. Paiseh when at shoping center parking lot. My magician said nothing can be done as bendix is like that. He recommend me use aveo brake pad from GM.
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hv u skimmed ur rotors before changing the brake pad?

i also hv the same problem with bendix, but mine was general ct. changed back to stock proton brake pad after only 5 months. bosch also hv brake pad for saga but priced at 70, very close to bendix metal king price and nvr heard any review of it.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 12:49 AM)
maybe brand new brake pads, locks wheels/slows rotors faster than the tire can cope.
functions, due to the bars, they WILL work your suspension/tires harder (which is good)

i would not be too surprised if it's the c drive 2 as they are comfort tires, however if you are having mixed tires, best if you can first identify where is the source of the screech. and to be honest, better if you practice changing all 4 tires instead of 2/pair, while practicing good tire rotations for even wear on all 4 tires.
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if it's because the softer c drive 2 compound, mybe i need to make use of it. i had only use stock goodyear tires which I believe is a bit harder, even if pushed still very hard to screech. now the screeching actually less than the first 1k kms.

anyway thanks 4 ur reply bro thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(blau-saga @ Aug 13 2013, 11:10 AM)
hv u skimmed ur rotors before changing the brake pad?

i also hv the same problem with bendix, but mine was general ct. changed back to stock proton brake pad after only 5 months. bosch also hv brake pad for saga but priced at 70, very close to bendix metal king price and nvr heard any review of it.
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I'm using bendix metal king, with stock rotor. But the braking power seems to be weaker compare to my old stock brake pad. What could go wrong? And the brake 'smell' is kinda strong sweat.gif sweat.gif
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David, why they build it like that....weird...2 jab on throttle but 1 signal only...

zeone, I've taken out the gaga TB before and I only can see the idling hole and the DBW module but maybe the TPS is built inside the DBW module also. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rogrog @ Aug 13 2013, 11:17 AM)
I'm using bendix metal king, with stock rotor. But the braking power seems to be weaker compare to my old stock brake pad. What could go wrong? And the brake 'smell' is kinda strong  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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l intend to change to it also. but after reading comments from users
the optimum operating temperature is higher thus at cold start, it doesn't perform - need to warm up .
l think long distance + high speed or genting type of road would be excellent.
stock rotor is not suitable as the rotor material is soft.

still looking for a better pad, can Sifu recommend?


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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 12:29 PM)
l intend to change to it also. but after reading comments from users
the optimum operating temperature is higher thus at cold start, it doesn't perform - need to warm up .
l think long distance + high speed or genting type of road would be excellent.
stock rotor is not suitable as the rotor material is soft.

still looking for a better pad, can Sifu recommend?
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bendix metal king isn't that good either on genting roads, especially downhill... fade out quite fast when reaching its temperature threshold.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 12:42 PM)
bendix metal king isn't that good either on genting roads, especially downhill... fade out quite fast when reaching its temperature threshold.
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but i dunno izzit brake pad or wat.. (use metal king as well)

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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 12:29 PM)
l intend to change to it also. but after reading comments from users
the optimum operating temperature is higher thus at cold start, it doesn't perform - need to warm up .
l think long distance + high speed or genting type of road would be excellent.
stock rotor is not suitable as the rotor material is soft.

still looking for a better pad, can Sifu recommend?
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try Rapid Stop brake pad 500C...is already sufficient for daily usage and aggresive braking smile.gif
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 12:29 PM)
l intend to change to it also. but after reading comments from users
the optimum operating temperature is higher thus at cold start, it doesn't perform - need to warm up .
l think long distance + high speed or genting type of road would be excellent.
stock rotor is not suitable as the rotor material is soft.

still looking for a better pad, can Sifu recommend?
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Wasted RM 114 liao.

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 12:42 PM)
bendix metal king isn't that good either on genting roads, especially downhill... fade out quite fast when reaching its temperature threshold.
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My friend's Myvi metal king finished in just 5month time brows.gif brows.gif
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Wasted RM 114 liao.
My friend's Myvi metal king finished in just 5month time  brows.gif  brows.gif
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softer pads more gentle on rotors, harder pads your rotor will wear out very fast. pads is cheaper than rotor anyway....the worst I have was changing 2 sets or rotors in 1 year 4 months. Due to using race pads...very less dust, noisy and need to warm up...but brake is super duper when it's hot.....can brake until the rotors start to glow red
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Where can install Saga FLX electric remote side mirror?
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 11:18 AM)

zeone, I've taken out the gaga TB before and I only can see the idling hole and the DBW module but maybe the TPS is built inside the DBW module also. hmm.gif
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Tks 4response...
Feel there shld b TPS cos using OBD2, readings can show throttle opening %age...
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QUOTE(blau-saga @ Aug 13 2013, 11:10 AM)
hv u skimmed ur rotors before changing the brake pad?

i also hv the same problem with bendix, but mine was general ct. changed back to stock proton brake pad after only 5 months. bosch also hv brake pad for saga but priced at 70, very close to bendix metal king price and nvr heard any review of it.
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My magician said skimmed also same one will come back coz metal king to them is will eat rotor abit. He said most brake pad also like that so he recommend me buy aveo brake pad from GM. Btw my rotor no issue why need to skim? Coz my stock pad is even wear n tear rate. Even he also said change brembo rotor also same so now i go hunt aveo brake pad then only skim rotor.
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Hi All,

Getting my 1.6SE next Friday in Ipoh. Hoping to join u guys soon. smile.gif
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Getting my 1.6SE next Friday in Ipoh. Hoping to join u guys soon. smile.gif
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Thanks to everyone's opinion re my earlier questions about the foglamp

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Thanks to everyone's opinion re my earlier questions about the foglamp

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white bulb with yellow tinted ?
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Aug 13 2013, 03:24 PM)
My magician said skimmed also same one will come back coz metal king to them is will eat rotor abit. He said most brake pad also like that so he recommend me buy aveo brake pad from GM. Btw my rotor no issue why need to skim? Coz my stock pad is even wear n tear rate. Even he also said change brembo rotor also same so now i go hunt aveo brake pad then only skim rotor.
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Change brake pads, rotor need to skim. Reason for skimming is because at times you will notice that the rotors has some grooves in it shallow one or deep one that is due to debris stuck between the rotors and the pads. The naked eye see is even but it's actually not. That's why after you change a pad without a skim disc you will notice the rotors some area got contact some area don't have. It's very visible if you wash the car and the rotor got slight rust on it and you go drive around and see some area the rust gone and some still there. For me I only practice skimming the same disc twice only. Then change the rotors.
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Thanks to everyone's opinion re my earlier questions about the foglamp

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i wanted to make yellow tint on my fog lamp too actually.
u tinted it yourself??
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TitanRev just want to confirm.
You are using OBD2 wifi reader + DashCommand and it's running fine on Ipon ?

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 03:52 PM)
Change brake pads, rotor need to skim. Reason for skimming is because at times you will notice that the rotors has some grooves in it shallow one or deep one that is due to debris stuck between the rotors and the pads. The naked eye see is even but it's actually not. That's why after you change a pad without a skim disc you will notice the rotors some area got contact some area don't have. It's very visible if you wash the car and the rotor got slight rust on it and you go drive around and see some area the rust gone and some still there. For me I only practice skimming the same disc twice only. Then change the rotors.
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Not neccesary to skim but its still depend how u braking. If u always hardbraking no doubt u need to skim. Rotor only can skim 2x max. Once u skimmed ur rotor, beware on hairline crack on the rotor.
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Hi All,

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 03:42 PM)
Thanks to everyone's opinion re my earlier questions about the foglamp

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so fast tint... berapa u tint?

QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 03:52 PM)
Change brake pads, rotor need to skim. Reason for skimming is because at times you will notice that the rotors has some grooves in it shallow one or deep one that is due to debris stuck between the rotors and the pads. The naked eye see is even but it's actually not. That's why after you change a pad without a skim disc you will notice the rotors some area got contact some area don't have. It's very visible if you wash the car and the rotor got slight rust on it and you go drive around and see some area the rust gone and some still there. For me I only practice skimming the same disc twice only. Then change the rotors.
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OMGOSH, can only skim twice only ar? my fish stock dish for 10 years been skim for 4x... shocking.gif

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QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Aug 13 2013, 04:14 PM)
the stock bulb with yellow tinted??
looks nice  brows.gif
i wanted to make yellow tint on my fog lamp too actually.
u tinted it yourself??
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
so fast tint... berapa u tint?

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Bought a small roll of tint film from Kedai Abang for RM6, then DIY wub.gif

End up a bit cacat, from not too noticable lar blush.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
OMGOSH, can only skim twice only ar? my fish stock dish for 10 years been skim for 4x...  shocking.gif
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Not 8x? brows.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 05:17 PM)
Bought a small roll of tint film from Kedai Abang for RM6, then DIY  wub.gif

End up a bit cacat, from not too noticable lar  blush.gif
Not 8x?  brows.gif
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oic, tht day went o kedai abang also, but didnt have pure yellow wan... all i find is got kotak kotak reflective wan.... so lucky u able to find it... got extra give me please. TQ notworthy.gif

no 8x.. 4x only... sumore still in stock brake disc.....


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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 04:15 PM)
TitanRev just want to confirm.
You are using OBD2 wifi reader + DashCommand and it's running fine on Ipon ?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
congratz~!  rclxms.gif
so fast tint... berapa u tint?
OMGOSH, can only skim twice only ar? my fish stock dish for 10 years been skim for 4x...  shocking.gif
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Your rotor there got state min thickness one. IF you skim over the min thickness rotor might crack. 1st hand experience in my uncle's Sentra. He skimmed the disc 5 times already....1 time during driving and emergency brake the disc shattered and very loud sound. 3 wheel bolt patah and really scare the shit out of me...crawl to the side and see what happen. driver side rotor hilang...
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 05:17 PM)
Bought a small roll of tint film from Kedai Abang for RM6, then DIY  wub.gif

End up a bit cacat, from not too noticable lar  blush.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 05:25 PM)
I'm running the Dash Command on andriod..Iphone one need to buy geh...
Your rotor there got state min thickness one. IF you skim over the min thickness rotor might crack. 1st hand experience in my uncle's Sentra. He skimmed the disc 5 times already....1 time during driving and emergency brake the disc shattered and very loud sound. 3 wheel bolt patah and really scare the shit out of me...crawl to the side and see what happen. driver side rotor hilang...
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oic, thn i tak tau oh... i juz listen to the foreman saja... he said still can no problem, thn i juz use only...haha
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QUOTE(KIntos @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 AM)
Arr. after changed to bendix metal king brake pad. Its giving me scratching rotor sound on my left side. The longer period i use the higher scratching sound.
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didn't give you enough clues?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 12:42 PM)
bendix metal king isn't that good either on genting roads, especially downhill... fade out quite fast when reaching its temperature threshold.
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i've heard good reviews that it is rather fade resistant.

however with the rotor wear and noise, naw i'll pass on it.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 12:45 PM)
hmm.gif my collegue husband use it on genting road its a mit lancer while stoping gotong jaya, there are sum smoke coming frm the brake area...  sweat.gif
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not sure about BMK, but i used rapid stop 500c pads, down hill smoked like hell and fade until no more brakes, had to stop at the side of karak letting the car slowly roll till a flat terrain and stop to cool down the pads. the smoke was even blurring my wind screen.

and with the wear it did to my rotor, insane brake dust.

never again. lol.
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QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Aug 13 2013, 01:45 PM)
try Rapid Stop brake pad 500C...is already sufficient for daily usage and aggresive braking  smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 05:33 PM)
not sure about BMK, but i used rapid stop 500c pads, down hill smoked like hell and fade until no more brakes, had to stop at the side of karak letting the car slowly roll till a flat terrain and stop to cool down the pads. the smoke was even blurring my wind screen.

and with the wear it did to my rotor, insane brake dust.

never again. lol.
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lol, but in the other way round as tht time (my fishy) using Bendix Stealth, no smoke wor maybe my car too light lar..
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 03:52 PM)
Change brake pads, rotor need to skim. Reason for skimming is because at times you will notice that the rotors has some grooves in it shallow one or deep one that is due to debris stuck between the rotors and the pads. The naked eye see is even but it's actually not. That's why after you change a pad without a skim disc you will notice the rotors some area got contact some area don't have. It's very visible if you wash the car and the rotor got slight rust on it and you go drive around and see some area the rust gone and some still there. For me I only practice skimming the same disc twice only. Then change the rotors.
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personally, id go with this:
if got sound before changing pads - skim
if your fingers can feel grooves - skim

otherwise, leave it. skim too many times = rotor replacement = hassle + money
and yes, skim disc 2/3 times max then have to change, cuz too thin already.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 03:42 PM)
Thanks to everyone's opinion re my earlier questions about the foglamp

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nice nice... smile.gif how bout the colour output during night time?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 05:22 PM)
oic, tht day went o kedai abang also, but didnt have pure yellow wan... all i find is got kotak kotak reflective wan.... so lucky u able to find it... got extra give me please. TQ  notworthy.gif

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Imma gonna keep the extra for other cars at home whistling.gif

You mau I can help you buy, my place near the Balakong branch.

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nice nice... smile.gif how bout the colour output during night time?
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Imma gonna keep the extra for other cars at home  whistling.gif

You mau I can help you buy, my place near the Balakong branch.
Just done today....not yet night time  unsure.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 01:59 PM)
your bendix metal king RM114?  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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Yea, ori price 140 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif I kena con isit? cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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reapers,

This is not due to skimming too much but if skim too many time similar will also happen. The below is due to uneven thermal expansion. Same theory if material too thin and cannot take in more heat it will start to crack due to expansion.
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 06:06 PM)
reapers,

This is not due to skimming too much but if skim too many time similar will also happen. The below is due to uneven thermal expansion. Same theory if material too thin and cannot take in more heat it will start to crack due to expansion. 
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oic... thn my fish brake dish still ok... after 4th time skimming still can brake like mad... but lucky sold liao... dunno the brake dish how now... hmm.gif
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Re Front Disc Pads/Rotors, my old gen Saga nvr had 2skim rotors...
Juz changed pads nia...
lines/shallow grooves got but no sounds...

Wat me do is remove brake pads at regular intervals & sand them flat b4 putting back...
Works 4that ride...
Dunno abt present Gaga tho...
So far so good.... hmm.gif

Juz 2share...
DIY servicing under own porch...

24 mths/ 20k+ Km schedule items...hv done 1 by 1...when in mood...haha!

Hv oledi done :
1. OCI ie EO & filter change
2. Air Filter change
3. Radiator Coolant change

And juz now...Power Steering Fluid change
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Items 2b done...when in the mood...haha... tongue.gif
1. Auto Gear Fluid change
2. Brake Fluid change


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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 06:43 PM)
Re Front Disc Pads/Rotors, my old gen Saga nvr had 2skim rotors...
Juz changed pads nia...
lines/shallow grooves got but no sounds...

Wat me do is remove brake pads at regular intervals & sand them flat b4 putting back...
Works 4that ride...
Dunno abt present Gaga tho...
So far so good.... hmm.gif

Juz 2share...
DIY servicing under own porch...

24 mths/ 20k+ Km schedule items...hv done 1 by 1...when in mood...haha!

Hv oledi done :
1. OCI ie EO & filter change
2. Air Filter change
3. Radiator Coolant change

And juz now...Power Steering Fluid change
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Items 2b done...when in the mood...haha... tongue.gif
1. Auto Gear Fluid change
2. Brake Fluid change
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Power steering you use what oil? do you do full flush?
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 06:49 PM)
Power steering you use what oil? do you do full flush?
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No la, Bro...nvr did 4all my rides & power steering no probs till me sold them off!!
Lucky mayb... tongue.gif

What me usually do is that a follow-up change is done a few k Km later....
This first change replaces all the old fluid in the reservoir...
Nxt change wld result in most of the old fluid having been replaced...
Good enuf, me feel...
Works so far... tongue.gif

And almost 4got...
Fluid used is ATF Devron II...as rec in User Manual...
Me used Shell one..

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 06:43 PM)
Re Front Disc Pads/Rotors, my old gen Saga nvr had 2skim rotors...
Juz changed pads nia...
lines/shallow grooves got but no sounds...

Wat me do is remove brake pads at regular intervals & sand them flat b4 putting back...
Works 4that ride...
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you shouldn't do that, as it re creates uneven braking surfaces in which you originally eliminated with your brake pads/rotor running in for the first 1-2k km.

that is only "acceptable" if you have noise/braking jutters however you don't want to skim the rotors and your pads are not due to replace yet.

it works for you most likely because you don't even brake that hard to begin with and it was never an issue on extreme thermal expansion/distribution.
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consulted my spare part man he said can use Detron III / same as ATF III used in auto Gear box..
anyone using?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 07:06 PM)
you shouldn't do that, as it re creates uneven braking surfaces in which you originally eliminated with your brake pads/rotor running in for the first 1-2k km.

that is only "acceptable" if you have noise/braking jutters however you don't want to skim the rotors and your pads are not due to replace yet.

it works for you most likely because you don't even brake that hard to begin with and it was never an issue on extreme thermal expansion/distribution.
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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

Many tks 4good advice on how NOT 2rectify brake pad probs... thumbup.gif
And yup, true...true...
Me drive really like ole unker & so also only need 2brake like ole unker!! blush.gif

Moreover me not hv confidence in braking power capability of Ole gen Saga & present day Gaga FL...
Only got ABS...Aku Brake Sendiri models... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 07:40 PM)
consulted my spare part man he said can use Detron III / same as ATF III used in auto Gear box..
anyone using?
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Me alwaz try 2follow rec specs in User Manual of car... tongue.gif

Since me had a new unused bottle of same ATF fluid used for my ole ride, felt why not...? rolleyes.gif

In yr case feel shld b no prob...
Cos a higher grade fluid is normally backward compatible IINM... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 07:06 PM)


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Hi agin, Bro... notworthy.gif

Was wondering if yu can share yr informative & experienced views on how one can improve the braking system of our Gagas w/o ABS/EBD, etc?

Wld the following be of any help? And in what order of action if done in stages (due to budget probs?)?

Changing to :
1. Dbl Diaphragm Brake Servo
2. Larger Master Brake Cylinder
3. Stainless Steel Reinforced Brake pipes eg Pro RS...
4. Better/Larger Disc Rotors
5. Better Disc Calipers

TQVM in adv. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif

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I'm running the Dash Command on andriod..Iphone one need to buy geh...
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Oh I see. That DashCommand (best among its kind in App Store I believe) will cost a bomb to get. $50 shocking.gif
Unless I jail break my Ipon which I am not too keen of doing. doh.gif
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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Aug 13 2013, 05:25 PM)
I'm running the Dash Command on andriod..Iphone one need to buy geh...
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 08:19 PM)
Oh I see. That DashCommand (best among its kind in App Store I believe) will cost a bomb to get. $50  shocking.gif
Unless I jail break my Ipon which I am not too keen of doing.  doh.gif
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Hi Bros... notworthy.gif

Yup, me use Torque...and lots more Apps for Androids, free or paid ones...even cracked ones! rclxms.gif

iPhones hv their Pros but after using for 3yrs liao, hv found Cons outweigh the Pros... rolleyes.gif

Juz 1 opinion nia... tongue.gif

Juz 2add, Bro ruby1288 agree fully that 2JB an iPhone (or 4that matter, rooting an Android) is nvr wothwhile in long run usage... cheers.gif

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The beam on the top is my headlamp, which is the same color as the stock foggies. The lower beam is the tinted foggies.

NOTE: the actual output is even yellow-er (my headlamps are yellowish, not white like the photo), the phone autocorrected the colour.

user posted image

wub.gif wub.gif

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 08:38 PM)
r3apers ckdenion

The beam on the top is my headlamp, which is the same color as the stock foggies. The lower beam is the tinted foggies.

NOTE: the actual output is even yellow-er (my headlamps are yellowish, not white like the photo), the phone autocorrected the colour.

user posted image

wub.gif  wub.gif
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owhh... i want the output like this drool.gif
gonna go and find the yellow tint brows.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 08:38 PM)
r3apers ckdenion Darrenkls

The beam on the top is my headlamp, which is the same color as the stock foggies. The lower beam is the tinted foggies.

NOTE: the actual output is even yellow-er (my headlamps are yellowish, not white like the photo), the phone autocorrected the colour.

user posted image

wub.gif  wub.gif
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ok bring me the tint on friday TT~! vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 08:45 PM)
ok bring me the tint  on friday TT~!  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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This Fri got TT mou?
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 08:48 PM)
This Fri got TT mou?
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i tak tau wor~!

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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 08:38 PM)
r3apers ckdenion Darrenkls

The beam on the top is my headlamp, which is the same color as the stock foggies. The lower beam is the tinted foggies.

NOTE: the actual output is even yellow-er (my headlamps are yellowish, not white like the photo), the phone autocorrected the colour.

user posted image

wub.gif  wub.gif
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D*mn nice!! Great tint job!! rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 08:48 PM)
i tak tau wor~!
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You organize lor....otherwise no tint for you whistling.gif

QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 08:52 PM)
D*mn nice!! Great tint job!!  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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wub.gif wub.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 09:06 PM)
You organize lor....otherwise no tint for you whistling.gif
wub.gif  wub.gif
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TT Satay???
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 09:08 PM)
TT Satay???
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Tikus say next month wor....
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 09:06 PM)
You organize lor....otherwise no tint for you whistling.gif
wub.gif  wub.gif
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wahh... drool.gif

My SV no fog light, but headlight can tint blue colour? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(adriangan @ Aug 13 2013, 09:09 PM)
wahh... drool.gif

My SV no fog light, but headlight can tint blue colour? icon_rolleyes.gif
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headlight blue expensive instalment. every roadblock RM50. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 09:09 PM)
Tikus say next month wor....
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TT kayu?
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QUOTE(adriangan @ Aug 13 2013, 09:09 PM)
wahh... drool.gif

My SV no fog light, but headlight can tint blue colour? icon_rolleyes.gif
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If just a slight tinge of blue maybe not noticable....but pointless if cannot see.

If go all dark blue.....refer to goohtj's post below sweat.gif

QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 09:26 PM)
headlight blue expensive instalment. every roadblock RM50. rclxms.gif
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 13 2013, 09:38 PM)
TT kayu?
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Apafak?

Ayam tak mau makan kayu unsure.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 09:41 PM)
If just a slight tinge of blue maybe not noticable....but pointless if cannot see.

If go all dark blue.....refer to goohtj's post below  sweat.gif
rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Apafak?

Ayam tak mau makan kayu  unsure.gif
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TT Ss2 Kayu.
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Hi Guys / Gals,

I'm planning to get a new car

as my budget is limited , so I'm considering Saga SV and Myvi 1.3 SE.

Can anyone here tell me the pros and cons of the new Saga SV?

any further details are welcomed.

Thanks in advanced
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Yea, ori price 140  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif I kena con isit? cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 08:37 PM)
Hi Bros... notworthy.gif

Yup, me use Torque...and lots more Apps for Androids, free or paid ones...even cracked ones!  rclxms.gif

iPhones hv their Pros but after using for 3yrs liao, hv found Cons outweigh the Pros... rolleyes.gif

Juz 1 opinion nia... tongue.gif

Juz 2add, Bro ruby1288 agree fully that 2JB an iPhone (or 4that matter, rooting an Android) is nvr wothwhile in long run usage... cheers.gif
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Torque is much more cheaper than DashCommand. 10x times cheaper to be exact.
It cost only $5 compared to DashCommand $50.
Ayam Ipon user no choice. OBD2 scanner either using BT or Wifi.
BT is out for Ipon.
If Wifi, Dash Command costs $50 shocking.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:12 PM)
Torque is much more cheaper than DashCommand. 10x times cheaper to be exact.
It cost only $5 compared to DashCommand $50.
Ayam Ipon user no choice. OBD2 scanner either using BT or Wifi.
BT is out for Ipon.
If Wifi, Dash Command costs $50  shocking.gif
Aiks  shakehead.gif
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sell iphong, buy android.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 08:48 PM)
This Fri got TT mou?
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Too many "friends" go there TT also. brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:04 PM)
Hi Guys / Gals,

I'm planning to get a new car

as my budget is limited , so I'm considering Saga SV and Myvi 1.3 SE.

Can anyone here tell me the pros and cons of the new Saga SV?

any further details are welcomed.

Thanks in advanced
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saga SV from 33k vs MyVi 1.3 SE from 44k.
difference in 11k but you say your budget is limited?? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:04 PM)
Hi Guys / Gals,

I'm planning to get a new car

as my budget is limited , so I'm considering Saga SV and Myvi 1.3 SE.

Can anyone here tell me the pros and cons of the new Saga SV?

any further details are welcomed.

Thanks in advanced
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=.= don't buy SV go buy full spec 1.3 executive...
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:13 PM)
sell iphong, buy android.
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no $$$ cry.gif
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QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Aug 13 2013, 10:16 PM)
saga SV from 33k vs MyVi 1.3 SE from 44k.
difference in 11k but you say your budget is limited??  hmm.gif
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erm ... my range is about there la

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cos if SV i will try to make it 5 year loan if Myvi I would try to obtain a 7 year loan


QUOTE(Maxwell6635 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:18 PM)
=.= don't buy SV go buy full spec 1.3 executive...
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how much is full spec 1.3 exec?

and whats the difference between SV, Standard, Exec and Exec CVT

pretty clueless bout them ...

This post has been edited by tzxsean: Aug 13 2013, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:25 PM)
no $$$  cry.gif
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cheap cheap tablet ard RM299 only. lolz
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:30 PM)
cheap cheap tablet ard RM299 only. lolz
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u punya ributapi is 1 mod ayam liking until now.
couple with YAB UO makes me drool.gif when want to smoke tibai turtles.
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TT Ss2 Kayu.
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:25 PM)
no $$$  cry.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:29 PM)
erm ... my range is about there la

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cos if SV i will try to make it 5 year loan if Myvi I would try to obtain a 7 year loan
how much is full spec 1.3 exec?

and whats the difference between SV, Standard, Exec and Exec CVT

pretty clueless bout them ...
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1.3 Executive around the same price as the Myvi 1.3 SE. If you are considering Myvi 1.3 SE, you should consider FLX 1.3 Exec instead of SV. It is much better equipped than the SV, the differences are quite a lot.

I think the Exec CVT you're referring to is the FLX SE, which is the 1.6l variant.
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QUOTE(jsnkok @ Aug 13 2013, 10:34 PM)
got iPon then sure rich enough for android  tongue.gif
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No coz that ipon inherited from ayam mama. wub.gif
ayam mama change to Note 2 so gib me that Ipon 4s which is given free to her anyway vmad.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 PM)
lokasyen pls sleep.gif
Sell woof woof ph34r.gif
1.3 Executive around the same price as the Myvi 1.3 SE. If you are considering Myvi 1.3 SE, you should consider FLX 1.3 Exec instead of SV. It is much better equipped than the SV, the differences are quite a lot.

I think the Exec CVT you're referring to is the FLX SE, which is the 1.6l variant.
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actually I'm trying to save up as much as possible

so I think SV is quite okay for me .. althou there is no ABS .. unsure.gif

I'm forced to buy a new car under unforeseen circumstances ...

so if can save i try to save ...

I'm referring to the proton website

Proton Saga SV and Standard .. seems there is not much difference?

If I'm trying to get 1.3 Executive.. i think my family will ask me to go for Myvi
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betul ke?


once use FS EO, tak boleh down grade after that. Engine will have problem if downgrade EO to SS.
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QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:43 PM)
betul ke?
once use FS EO, tak boleh down grade after that. Engine will have problem if downgrade EO to SS.
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No.
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 07:40 PM)
consulted my spare part man he said can use Detron III / same as ATF III used in auto Gear box..
anyone using?
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can is can, however better on following specification of Mitsu/proton SPIII instead of dextron III smile.gif
specifications are there for a reason, no?
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:29 PM)
erm ... my range is about there la

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cos if SV i will try to make it 5 year loan if Myvi I would try to obtain a 7 year loan
how much is full spec 1.3 exec?

and whats the difference between SV, Standard, Exec and Exec CVT

pretty clueless bout them ...
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 PM)
1.3 Executive around the same price as the Myvi 1.3 SE. If you are considering Myvi 1.3 SE, you should consider FLX 1.3 Exec instead of SV. It is much better equipped than the SV, the differences are quite a lot.

I think the Exec CVT you're referring to is the FLX SE, which is the 1.6l variant.
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tzxsean i think the fact that saga has got a nice ass and maivee aka turtles dont have already beats the point.
leave all the rest away. what vvti engine, better FC and all those nonsense BS that maivee drivers says is better than saga. pure BS.
at Saga price tag (which is cheaper than maivee) together with an ass, I will go for it.
I am FLX SE driver but I am not bias towards them.
I have made deep thoughts of having a boot vs not having one.
Think of where are you going to put ur stuffs after shopping ? Its even worse if you are married with kids.
all the supermarket stuffs and dont forget ur baby stroller. Can you fit them into a maivee ?

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Aug 13 2013, 10:45 PM)
No.
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Terima kasih,

often travel far, recommended FS kan?
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:41 PM)
actually I'm trying to save up as much as possible

so I think SV is quite okay for me .. althou there is no ABS .. unsure.gif

I'm forced to buy a new car under unforeseen circumstances ...

so if can save i try to save ...

I'm referring to the proton website

Proton Saga SV and Standard .. seems there is not much difference?

If I'm trying to get 1.3 Executive.. i think my family will ask me to go for Myvi
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you can consider to take 1.3 executive.
i also having the same situation like you previously. being forced to get new car.
at first thinking to get SV, then upgrading to standard, at last take executive.
FYI, i just get my car not more than 2 weeks.
if you want to take SV need to wait for months only can get your car IINM smile.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 PM)
couple with YAB UO makes me drool.gif when want to smoke tibai turtles.
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don't smoke turtle. GO smoke bigger cars, like Toyota Hilux.

QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:43 PM)
betul ke?
once use FS EO, tak boleh down grade after that. Engine will have problem if downgrade EO to SS.
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kelentong SC yang mana lagi ni?
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QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:47 PM)
Terima kasih,

often travel far, recommended FS kan?
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ayam always stick to OCI 5k.
always better to have fresh EO in engine than a FS EO that can withstand 10k or whatsoever.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:04 PM)
Hi Guys / Gals,

I'm planning to get a new car

as my budget is limited , so I'm considering Saga SV and Myvi 1.3 SE.

Can anyone here tell me the pros and cons of the new Saga SV?

any further details are welcomed.

Thanks in advanced
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Price : 1 x myvi = SV + RM10,000 cash
so, SV owners are happier (less burden)
with the extra cash, we TT every week (all worries gone)
buy durians, rambutans etc and put in the huge boot. myvi- no boot (put on your lap?)
if wait in car for girlfriend for 1 hr, just on a/c - cool your heat. myvi ?????
car performance
0-40km/h - slower n steady. prevent sudden jerk n bang into other car ass.
60-120km/h - excellent power... some take corners at high speed w/o turning turtle like mv
Fuel Consumption? higher abit - heavier car - got front, got back (boot) safer car.
SV- people bang into my boot , Myvi - people bang in ..........

if you got problem and ???? after owning SV, no problem, join our TT loh. a lot of SIFUs

haha, just my noob opinion, both cars are good. your choice..
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QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:47 PM)
Terima kasih,

often travel far, recommended FS kan?
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Actually doesn't really matter much about travel far or not. biggrin.gif
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don't smoke turtle. GO smoke bigger cars, like Toyota Hilux.
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but always cucuk me 1 is them nod.gif
especially those LPLB always cucuk.
always delay them until 80 kph then only smoke kau them.
otherwise head on from low speed will still lose ? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 10:36 PM)
lokasyen pls sleep.gif
Sell woof woof ph34r.gif
1.3 Executive around the same price as the Myvi 1.3 SE. If you are considering Myvi 1.3 SE, you should consider FLX 1.3 Exec instead of SV. It is much better equipped than the SV, the differences are quite a lot.

I think the Exec CVT you're referring to is the FLX SE, which is the 1.6l variant.
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:47 PM)
tzxsean i think the fact that saga has got a nice ass and maivee aka turtles dont have already beats the point.
leave all the rest away. what vvti engine, better FC and all those nonsense BS that maivee drivers says is better than saga. pure BS.
at Saga price tag (which is cheaper than maivee) together with an ass, I will go for it.
I am FLX SE driver but I am not bias towards them.
I have made deep thoughts of having a boot vs not having one.
Think of where are you going to put ur stuffs after shopping ? Its even worse if you are married with kids.
all the supermarket stuffs and dont forget ur baby stroller. Can you fit them into a maivee ?
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I'm still single and foreveralone ..let alone having a wife and baby hahaha

the boot is no issue for me ..

the concern is bout the safety, maintenance and the traditional problems of proton


QUOTE(Darrenkls @ Aug 13 2013, 10:48 PM)
you can consider to take 1.3 executive.
i also having the same situation like you previously. being forced to get new car.
at first thinking to get SV, then upgrading to standard, at last take executive.
FYI, i just get my car not more than 2 weeks.
if you want to take SV need to wait for months only can get your car IINM  smile.gif
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I would choosing Auto for sure
how much down payment you paid and how many years of loan have you obtained?

pls share some insight ...

I'm still favoring SV at the moment .. those accessories are not a must for me
and well ..i can guess to learn to drive without ABS.

anyway im still thinking which to choose .. personally more towards Proton at the moment
cos I'm driving Myvi now .. can buying another Myvi seems boring
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 07:56 PM)
Cos a higher grade fluid is normally backward compatible IINM...  smile.gif
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that is true for the most part. however have to make sure the spec/data sheets are the same/similar, like how some gear/atf oils have high viscosity/low viscosity specifications. difference quite huge btw and if you don't follow, even if it has no issue, it may potentially cause faster wear/tear in the long run.

examples:
http://www.torcousa.com/technology/HiVis_ATF_Torco.pdf
http://www.torcousa.com/technology/LoVis_ATF_Torco.pdf

high viscos (thicker) for mitsu SPII / III
low viscosity for mitsu SP IV

another example would be DOT5 brake fluid being silicone based, are NOT compatible with DOT3/DOT4/DOT5.1 smile.gif
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 10:51 PM)
Price : 1 x myvi = SV + RM10,000 cash
so, SV owners are happier (less burden)
with the extra cash, we TT every week (all worries gone)
buy durians, rambutans etc  and put in the huge boot. myvi- no boot (put on your lap?)
if wait in car for girlfriend for 1 hr, just on a/c - cool your heat. myvi ?????
car performance
0-40km/h - slower n steady. prevent sudden jerk n bang into other car ass.
60-120km/h - excellent power... some take corners at high speed w/o turning turtle like mv
Fuel Consumption? higher abit - heavier car - got front, got back (boot) safer car.
SV- people bang into my boot ,  Myvi - people bang in ..........             

if you got problem and ???? after owning SV, no problem, join our TT loh. a lot of SIFUs

haha, just my noob opinion, both cars are good. your choice..
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what is TT?

Im thinking to persuade my dad let me choose Saga ..

cos macam all ppl in my circle choose Myvi over Saga

bcos of the "problems" perceived by the public over the years on Saga's image and issues

for me a SV is sufficient .. my official 1st car does not need to be high end
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:48 PM)
don't smoke turtle. GO smoke bigger cars, like Toyota Hilux.
kelentong SC yang mana lagi ni?
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Toyota SC, came across to read their thread. last page they talking about their SC told them about that. ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 10:46 PM)
can is can, however better on following specification of Mitsu/proton SPIII instead of dextron III smile.gif
specifications are there for a reason, no?
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:47 PM)
tzxsean i think the fact that saga has got a nice ass and maivee aka turtles dont have already beats the point.
leave all the rest away. what vvti engine, better FC and all those nonsense BS that maivee drivers says is better than saga. pure BS.
at Saga price tag (which is cheaper than maivee) together with an ass, I will go for it.
I am FLX SE driver but I am not bias towards them.
I have made deep thoughts of having a boot vs not having one.
Think of where are you going to put ur stuffs after shopping ? Its even worse if you are married with kids.
all the supermarket stuffs and dont forget ur baby stroller. Can you fit them into a maivee ?
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1 more thing.
have you or your family members sat before into a maivee or biba or ganjil back seat ?
i personnally have and I will always choose not to sit into 1 whenever possible.
Why ?
they got no bloody ass !
what happens when ppl love the maivee so much and they start to h@msap and buttsek it ?
I cannot imagine what will happen to me if I am at the back seat.

fyi, tis has got nth to do with how good the maivee driver is because its other ppl buttsek you.


AT least in a Gaga, the boot will take the beat first. whistling.gif
someone please bless those back seaters of biba / maivee or ganjil.

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Sell woof woof ph34r.gif
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woof woof ?
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:52 PM)
but always cucuk me 1 is them  nod.gif
especially those LPLB always cucuk.
always delay them until 80 kph then only smoke kau them.
otherwise head on from low speed will still lose ?  hmm.gif
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give them the way and cucuk them on corners lah. watch them squirm, watch them shake.
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:55 PM)
what is TT?

Im thinking to persuade my dad let me choose Saga ..

cos macam all ppl in my circle choose Myvi over Saga

bcos of the "problems" perceived by the public over the years on Saga's image and issues

for me a SV is sufficient .. my official 1st car does not need to be high end
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QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:56 PM)
Toyota SC, came across to read their thread. last page they talking about their SC told them about that.  ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:52 PM)
I'm still single and foreveralone ..let alone having a wife and baby hahaha

the boot is no issue for me ..

the concern is bout the safety, maintenance and the traditional problems of proton
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firstly, u will never know when the boot will come in handy icon_rolleyes.gif
me myself cant imagine what will happen to me if I bought a car without boot.

safety ?
google and see how many turtles did maivees made. there is a reason they are labelled as turtles.

maintenance and problems ?
which car got no problems ? all mass produced cars has their own problems. this is the reality of mass produced products.
my gaga no issue until now but I do maintain them pretty good.
when I said pretty good means serbis when required.


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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:57 PM)
give them the way and cucuk them on corners lah. watch them squirm, watch them shake.
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if sudd they turtle then I mai bang ?
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 08:14 PM)
Was wondering if yu can share yr informative & experienced views on how one can improve the braking system of our Gagas w/o ABS/EBD, etc?

Wld the following be of any help? And in what order of action if done in stages (due to budget probs?)?

Changing to :
1. Dbl Diaphragm Brake Servo
2. Larger Master Brake Cylinder
3. Stainless Steel Reinforced Brake pipes eg Pro RS...
4. Better/Larger Disc Rotors
5. Better Disc Calipers
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personally, i do Plug and play products, so my opinions can be a bit... how should i put it "not efficient" ?
i tend to pay more however i get less hassle since my upgrades are all EASILY reversible and removable should i want to sell/don't like.

while cheaper/more efficient options would be things like sifu davidke20 mentioned, using half cuts from other cars, modify/replace the knuckle so on and so forth.

personally i run on:

- IMP slotted/x drilled rotors skimmed once no f***ing thanks to rapid stop doh.gif
now the slots are barely there. if need to skim again i'll be selling it instead (im sure there are people out there who don't mind some brake jitters/noise) :/

- IMP stainless steel brake hoses with DOT 5.1 brake fluid, very snappy braking response lol

- EBC Green stuff (RRP is 320 for iswara lol)
if you dont mind brake dust, consider going EBC ultimax (their basic product) thats around 160-170 or so RRP

if you're going the route as you listed, best if you 1 shot do all minus item 3, because they come in a set. having larger rotors/calipers (and/or additional pistons aka 2/3 pots etc) without the appropriate servo/cylinder you'll be getting VERY poor braking performance.
like wise, go the other way around of item 1/2 first, you'll easily lock your wheels and you'll be in a very dangerous situation.
so 1-5 minus 3 has to be done all together.
now you can see why i don't even bother them and kept stock ROFL! there WILL be trial and error and you'll need a LOT of patience for this. i use my car as a daily ride, not a track car that tends to sit in the workshop more than the road, so i won't have such patience hence my choice on upgrades.

ps: i got news that LKC bought satria liao, the RVR braking system is for sale and im f***ing tempted tongue.gif
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Young men, Boot can put 2 x 12" subwoofer...
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 11:03 PM)
firstly, u will never know when the boot will come in handy  icon_rolleyes.gif
me myself cant imagine what will happen to me if I bought a car without boot.

safety ?
google and see how many turtles did maivees made. there is a reason they are labelled as turtles.

maintenance and problems ?
which car got no problems ? all mass produced cars has their own problems. this is the reality of mass produced products.
my gaga no issue until now but I do maintain them pretty good.
when I said pretty good means serbis when required.
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hmm .. how bout ABS and the anti skid when emergency brake part?

how to improve or avoid troubles later?

need some tips now ..

and any nice color to intro? laugh.gif for saga sv
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 11:03 PM)
if sudd they turtle then I mai bang ?
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1 question ..

how come in proton website for loan calculator

not available for Saga SV?

any1 roughly can tell me if I pay 10% downpayment for Auto Metallic

and opt for 5 years loan

how much I need to pay monthly?
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QUOTE(sahar @ Aug 13 2013, 10:43 PM)
betul ke?
once use FS EO, tak boleh down grade after that. Engine will have problem if downgrade EO to SS.
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:11 PM)
will understeer away before turtle, so no worries.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:11 PM)
1 question ..

how come in proton website for loan calculator

not available for Saga SV?

any1 roughly can tell me if I pay 10% downpayment for Auto Metallic

and opt for 5 years loan

how much I need to pay monthly?
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D/P 10% = RM 3,700

Balance to be loaned = RM 33,188

Assuming interest pa is 3.5%,

([3.5 x 5] 33188) + 33,188

38,995.90 / 60

= 649.93 per month.
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QUOTE(goohtj @ Aug 13 2013, 11:08 PM)
Young men, Boot can put 2 x 12" subwoofer...
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:09 PM)
LOL ..Penang ada?
hmm .. how bout ABS and the anti skid when emergency brake part?

how to improve or avoid troubles later?

need some tips now ..

and any nice color to intro?  laugh.gif for saga sv
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ABS IINM only available from Executive onwards ?
Sorry ayam no research on this because ayam actually decided on getting the SE 1.6 right from the start.
my only comparison is 1.3 vs 1.6L engine. icon_rolleyes.gif
Maybe others can help to answer you on this.

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:16 PM)
D/P 10% = RM 3,700

Balance to be loaned = RM 33,188

Assuming interest pa is 3.5%,

([3.5 x 5] 33188) + 33,188

38,995.90 / 60

= 649.93 per month.
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woot mahalnya.
my SE now only 644 / month on 7 yrs tenure
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 11:19 PM)
woot mahalnya.
my SE now only 644 / month on 7 yrs tenure
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644 x 84 mths = 54,096

vs

650 x 60 mths = 39,000

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:16 PM)
D/P 10% = RM 3,700

Balance to be loaned = RM 33,188

Assuming interest pa is 3.5%,

([3.5 x 5] 33188) + 33,188

38,995.90 / 60

= 649.93 per month.
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 11:19 PM)
woot mahalnya.
my SE now only 644 / month on 7 yrs tenure
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i think that figure is almost my limit per month for 5 years ...

as for now .. need to think how to pay the downpayment

p/s: just now was in phone with my dad .. he mentioned that his car dealer fren mentioned that the engine

of Saga is somehow different bla bla bla ..use duno wad black oil .. bla bla bla .. then will make the gear

n etc not so durable.


can somebody care to explain this to me and the rationale? I not so faham ..
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:24 PM)
i think that figure is almost my limit per month for 5 years ...

as for now .. need to think how to pay the downpayment

p/s: just now was in phone with my dad .. he mentioned that his car dealer fren mentioned that the engine

       of Saga is somehow different bla bla bla ..use duno wad black oil .. bla bla bla .. then will make the gear
  
        n etc not so durable.
can somebody care to explain this to me and the rationale? I not so faham ..
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how does black (engine) oil relate to lifespan of the gearbox... lol

Speaking from my experience, 9 out of 10 car dealers are only car dealers and they know nothing about cars.

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 11:18 PM)
ABS IINM only available from Executive onwards ?
Sorry ayam no research on this because ayam actually decided on getting the SE 1.6 right from the start.
my only comparison is 1.3 vs 1.6L engine.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Maybe others can help to answer you on this.
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yes SV dun have it

thats why im asking how to deal with the absence of ABS and co icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:26 PM)
how does black (engine) oil relate to lifespan of the gearbox... lol

your dad's car dearler friend selling apa car one? Toyota or Honda?
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lol .. i think the problem lies with me..duno a shit bout those technical stuff

so might be mistakes in my questions above

hence im asking for possible correction and explanation behind it laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:24 PM)
i think that figure is almost my limit per month for 5 years ...

as for now .. need to think how to pay the downpayment

p/s: just now was in phone with my dad .. he mentioned that his car dealer fren mentioned that the engine

      of Saga is somehow different bla bla bla ..use duno wad black oil .. bla bla bla .. then will make the gear
 
        n etc not so durable.
can somebody care to explain this to me and the rationale? I not so faham ..
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engine - campro [abit letdown on efficiency] if proton put japan made--myvi long die already
black oil/engine oil - use what u like. auto gear use CVT technology like Honda City. just learn how to drive one. no issue.
Car salesman's word ......
tell your daddy. dad, l budget your $$$, buying the economy car for a start.

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U help me do la, i on phone le.
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Ayam asking you where it is lar dry.gif

QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 13 2013, 10:57 PM)
rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
woof woof ?
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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:57 PM)
give them the way and cucuk them on corners lah. watch them squirm, watch them shake.
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I like doing that, dugongs also. Kasi cucuk skit at corners dah panic....shake shake a bit then give way lolz

QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:02 PM)
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Lol mirage sedan


QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 11:16 PM)
D/P 10% = RM 3,700

Balance to be loaned = RM 33,188

Assuming interest pa is 3.5%,

([3.5 x 5] 33188) + 33,188

38,995.90 / 60

= 649.93 per month.
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Why interest sohigh?

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:26 PM)
yes SV dun have it

thats why im asking how to deal with the absence of ABS and co  icon_idea.gif
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Go learn cadence braking.

At home already satu biji Myvi, still wanna buy another Myvi meh.

Both of them can use the same engine oil, except gear oil is different because Saga uses CVT.

Ask your dads friend come talk to me so I can slap him.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 11:47 PM)
Ayam asking you where it is lar dry.gif
Arf arf
I like doing that, dugongs also. Kasi cucuk skit at corners dah panic....shake shake a bit then give way lolz
Lol mirage sedan
Why interest sohigh?
Go learn cadence braking.

At home already satu biji Myvi, still wanna buy another Myvi meh.

Both of them can use the same engine oil, except gear oil is different because Saga uses CVT.

Ask your dads friend come talk to me so I can slap him.
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hahah true .. tats why i wan avoid Myvi

and im paying myself .. except downpayment need help from dad .. thumbup.gif

anyway .. i c the fire red color not bad from pic but on the road seems so so ..

any nice color to recommend?

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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:49 PM)
hahah true .. tats why i wan avoid Myvi

and im paying myself .. except downpayment need help from dad ..  thumbup.gif

anyway .. i c the fire red color not bad from pic but on the road seems so so ..

any nice color to recommend?
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Elegant brown. laugh.gif

Because I bought that colour. laugh.gif
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Elegant brown. laugh.gif

Because I bought that colour. laugh.gif
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had a black car .. wouldn't want one now

might take silver .. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:55 PM)
care to show off?

had a black car .. wouldn't want one now

might take silver ..  biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif I actually wanted white but in the end chose brown.
The brochure uses brown, so I bought it. laugh.gif

I'm quite happy with it. nod.gif
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Fire Red and silver easy to maintain, but red is less common than silver on the road.
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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 13 2013, 11:56 PM)
laugh.gif I actually wanted white but in the end chose brown.
The brochure uses brown, so I bought it. laugh.gif

I'm quite happy with it. nod.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 11:59 PM)
Fire Red and silver easy to maintain, but red is less common than silver on the road.
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red looked nice on the net

but when I see one on the road ... i was like meh ...

truly picture is for illustration purpose only
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QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Aug 14 2013, 12:00 AM)
White win flex.gif
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Maybe it is my first car, I like it so much. laugh.gif
Smooth driving. blush.gif
I'm a newbie. tongue.gif

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 14 2013, 12:07 AM)
red looked nice on the net

but when I see one on the road ... i was like meh ...

truly picture is for illustration purpose only
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Red? Imagine taxi, yeah there are a lot on the streets using Saga.. laugh.gif
But I think it is slightly different red. tongue.gif

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Red? Imagine taxi, yeah there are a lot on the streets using Saga.. laugh.gif
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Later will have alot of taxi using Elegant Brown whistling.gif

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Later will have alot of taxi using Elegant Brown whistling.gif

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Aug 13 2013, 10:10 PM)
I bought at Rm85

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davidke20

i still proceed to give the rear apm lowered springs a try, much stiffer, absolutely hate it on humps/potholes aka malaysian roads.

however the stability is there, i tried to press it from outside, as you said, only 1 bounce or barely much as the absorbers are full time engaged as the spring's much shorter than the H&R's and the absorbers, being sports oriented short stroke, it is stiff as f*** lol. http://www.thousand.com.my/index.php?m=pro...yID=41&proID=75

additionally, i've advanced my distributor ignition timing by 3-5 degrees
my mechanic help me advanced it and said right now it's the max for Ron 95, not sure how true is that, but damn my car suddenly become damn powerful lol. 130-140km/h can still see it climb decently compared to before rofl.
i think during the gymkhana sessions i could perhaps sit in 2nd gear without first gear for torque as that could upset the car balance/tires.

just tested the route from my house to kl sentral, decent twisties between duta - mahameru, averaging 130-160km/h.
feedback is really good, the stiffness really shines here, and thankfully it did not scrape the rear fenders unlike previously, probably because the absorbers are much better this time around.

it still hops a little if i throttle steer too much/too fast, however overall it's a lot more stable than before. i still prefer the old setup on a daily ride basis, however for track days, it is no doubt the current springs should fare much better. we'll see how it goes this sunday, if its really positive, i'll decide to keep the rear springs, probably have to end up keeping everything because i doubt anyone will buy the fronts only rofl. actually it does make sense though, if you have passengers at the rear, iswaras tend to sink quite a bit on stock spring/absorber setups and some humps will scrape similar to wira's.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 13 2013, 11:04 PM)

- IMP stainless steel brake hoses with DOT 5.1 brake fluid, very snappy braking response lol

- so 1-5 minus 3 has to be done all together.

now you can see why i don't even bother them and kept stock ROFL! there WILL be trial and error and you'll need a LOT of patience for this. i use my car as  a daily ride....

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Hi Bro... notworthy.gif

From yr informative & detailed responses, me hv selected the points of relevance 2my needs...

1. Appears that only worthwhile, easy & affordable change is item 3 ie replacing with SS Brake Hoses. Did that 4my ole gen Saga & it really gave a very significant improvement to braking response!
Even the mech who did the change commented so...he din believe there was gonna b a difference b4 agreeing 2do the change...( me got the hoses via Poslaju ie w/o installation).
Me might juz keep 2same Dot 4 fluid since Dot 4 & 5.1 not compatiblenor mixable. Flushing the brake sys fully clean of Dot 4 wld b a prob...

2. To do 1 - 5 (minus 3 ) together wld also b a prob...financially...besides being a lot of hassle... sweat.gif
Moreover a sudden brake lock situation is LESS preferable to a progressive/ controllable albeit weaker braking performance. True?

And yup, my Gaga is also used as a daily ride... cheers.gif

TQVM, Bro!! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 13 2013, 11:47 PM)
Why interest sohigh?
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2) put high high to avoid disappointment
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 11:55 PM)
care to show off?

had a black car .. wouldn't want one now

might take silver ..  biggrin.gif
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i'm having a silver blm... smile.gif

choose what colour u like... then come join use at star wash to maintain ur car... sifu there have great knowledge and experience in maintaining cars... most of us also maintain our car there... smile.gif for car wash/polish/wax/coating
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 14 2013, 12:59 AM)
davidke20

i still proceed to give the rear apm lowered springs a try, much stiffer, absolutely hate it on humps/potholes aka malaysian roads.

however the stability is there, i tried to press it from outside, as you said, only 1 bounce or barely much as the absorbers are full time engaged as the spring's much shorter than the H&R's and the absorbers, being sports oriented short stroke, it is stiff as f*** lol. http://www.thousand.com.my/index.php?m=pro...yID=41&proID=75

additionally, i've advanced my distributor ignition timing by 3-5 degrees
my mechanic help me advanced it and said right now it's the max for Ron 95, not sure how true is that, but damn my car suddenly become damn powerful lol. 130-140km/h can still see it climb decently compared to before rofl.
i think during the gymkhana sessions i could perhaps sit in 2nd gear without first gear for torque as that could upset the car balance/tires.

just tested the route from my house to kl sentral, decent twisties between duta - mahameru, averaging 130-160km/h.
feedback is really good, the stiffness really shines here, and thankfully it did not scrape the rear fenders unlike previously, probably because the absorbers are much better this time around.

it still hops a little if i throttle steer too much/too fast, however overall it's a lot more stable than before. i still prefer the old setup on a daily ride basis, however for track days, it is no doubt the current springs should fare much better. we'll see how it goes this sunday, if its really positive, i'll decide to keep the rear springs, probably have to end up keeping everything because i doubt anyone will buy the fronts only rofl. actually it does make sense though, if you have passengers at the rear, iswaras tend to sink quite a bit on stock spring/absorber setups and some humps will scrape similar to wira's.
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So the spring won't fly out

user posted image

So the rear don't sag so much

user posted image

So your cabin wont compress much due to lateral inertia transfer

user posted image

So your tail more in line when you pulling hard corners

user posted image

So to squeeze more mid/hi end sprint

You're ready to go yawn.gif Back to sleep, waifu will be wondering make milk make half an hour for the son yawn.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 14 2013, 01:27 AM)
Me might juz keep 2same Dot 4 fluid since Dot 4 & 5.1 not compatiblenor mixable. Flushing the brake sys fully clean of Dot 4 wld b a prob...

2. To do 1 - 5 (minus 3 ) together wld also b a prob...financially...besides being a lot of hassle... sweat.gif
Moreover a sudden brake lock situation is LESS preferable to a progressive/ controllable albeit weaker braking performance. True?
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DOT4 and 5.1 can mix, although not recommended since your DOT5.1 is wasted lol (after mixture it'll still perform as a DOT4, so there is no point to mix).

and yes, true. once you lock, its up to tire performance already and chances are if you're driving on comfort based tires/drifting tires ala silverstones, you better start praying early lol.

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You're ready to go yawn.gif Back to sleep, waifu will be wondering make milk make half an hour for the son yawn.gif
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many more questions liao lol

- how come the spring will fly out, too short than stock settings?

- what is that orange thing, some kinda wheel? lol

and lol 30mins milk making laugh.gif
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many more questions liao lol

- how come the spring will fly out, too short than stock settings?

- what is that orange thing, some kinda wheel? lol

and lol 30mins milk making laugh.gif
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1) Ya

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what size is that wheel o_O
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what size is that wheel o_O
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http://www.mudah.my/Tayar+spare+evo+3-22498138.htm

I have the exact same unit. Magician GAVE it to me back in 2004 if not mistaken. We bought a halfcut, the sparewheel goes to me. 16"
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 14 2013, 07:53 AM)
I have the exact same unit. Magician GAVE it to me back in 2004 if not mistaken. We bought a halfcut, the sparewheel goes to me. 16"
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 14 2013, 07:56 AM)
hmm so you're recommending me to upsize my rear to 16"?
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Change the ori spare tayar out lar laugh.gif Btw, accidentally digged out an old photo of my Iswaga. Lurv it wub.gif

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 14 2013, 08:07 AM)
Change the ori spare tayar out lar laugh.gif Btw, accidentally digged out an old photo of my Iswaga. Lurv it wub.gif
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 14 2013, 01:42 AM)
user posted image

So the spring won't fly out

user posted image

So the rear don't sag so much

user posted image

So your cabin wont compress much due to lateral inertia transfer

user posted image

So your tail more in line when you pulling hard corners

user posted image

So to squeeze more mid/hi end sprint

You're ready to go yawn.gif Back to sleep, waifu will be wondering make milk make half an hour for the son yawn.gif
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My new saga got problem ... when I press brake like maybe 1/4 of it .. i can hear krirkk kirkk at my rear brakes... apa macam sleep.gif';
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QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 14 2013, 12:07 AM)
red looked nice on the net

but when I see one on the road ... i was like meh ...

truly picture is for illustration purpose only
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red looks like taxi on the road tongue.gif
silver are too common.
i choose white from the start.
even my SA say no stock for white, i still insists on white rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 14 2013, 12:22 AM)
I know. cry.gif cry.gif
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then fruitie's car will become taxi in future laugh.gif
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 14 2013, 08:54 AM)
My new saga got problem ... when I press brake like maybe 1/4 of it .. i can hear krirkk kirkk at my rear brakes... apa macam sleep.gif';
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tak tak sound ?
what is ur car mileage ?
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 08:57 AM)
tak tak sound ?
what is ur car mileage ?
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300 km
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 14 2013, 08:54 AM)
My new saga got problem ... when I press brake like maybe 1/4 of it .. i can hear krirkk kirkk at my rear brakes... apa macam sleep.gif';
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Know issue, just claim during your first servis.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2013, 09:01 AM)
Know issue, just claim during your first servis.
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uh how do i tell them the problem ? got the kirk kirk sound ?
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 14 2013, 09:06 AM)
uh how do i tell them the problem ? got the kirk kirk sound ?
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"drum brek belakang bising bila brek"

Unless that SC have been operating under a stone, they should have heard about this problem.

Worst case scenario they will open your drumbrake and servis it / chamfer your brake shoes, best case scenario is they will order replacement and replace your entire drumbrake at a later date. Depends on which SC you go to.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2013, 09:10 AM)
"drum brek belakang bising bila brek"

Unless that SC have been operating under a stone, they should have heard about this problem.

Worst case scenario they will open your drumbrake and servis it / chamfer your brake shoes, best case scenario is they will order replacement and replace your entire drumbrake at a later date. Depends on which SC you go to.
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okay okay noted smile.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2013, 09:10 AM)
"drum brek belakang bising bila brek"

Unless that SC have been operating under a stone, they should have heard about this problem.

Worst case scenario they will open your drumbrake and servis it / chamfer your brake shoes, best case scenario is they will order replacement and replace your entire drumbrake at a later date. Depends on which SC you go to.
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yes, usually open the housing, blow the dust away with compressed air and gosok abit with sand paper.
but 300 km already kena, abit too early. icon_question.gif
this happened to me for the last 2 times I complained.
who can share which SC allows you to claim the entire brake set ?
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QUOTE(fghvbn @ Aug 14 2013, 09:11 AM)
okay okay noted smile.gif
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 09:14 AM)
yes, usually open the housing, blow the dust away with compressed air and gosok abit with sand paper.
but 300 km already kena, abit too early.  icon_question.gif
this happened to me for the last 2 times I complained.
who can share which SC allows you to claim the entire brake set ?
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My car second week already kena sleep.gif I guess I was one of the earliest victims of this issue on the FLX.

Last time I complen kat PESC Desa Tun Razak and COSE also terus replaced no question asked. Now not so sure, but your best chance is to bring it to a PESC or COSE.
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2013, 09:19 AM)
My car second week already kena sleep.gif I guess I was one of the earliest victims of this issue on the FLX.

Last time I complen kat PESC Desa Tun Razak and COSE also terus replaced no question asked. Now not so sure, but your best chance is to bring it to a PESC or COSE.
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Okie dookie.
Wonder why they still stick with this useless S sub vendor.
Gives sub class drum brakes whistling.gif
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QUOTE(dares @ Aug 14 2013, 09:19 AM)
My car second week already kena sleep.gif I guess I was one of the earliest victims of this issue on the FLX.

Last time I complen kat PESC Desa Tun Razak and COSE also terus replaced no question asked. Now not so sure, but your best chance is to bring it to a PESC or COSE.
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what is PESC or COSE ??
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 09:22 AM)
Okie dookie.
Wonder why they still stick with this useless S sub vendor.
Gives sub class drum brakes  whistling.gif
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Anyway last time I heard eqmal197 got his replaced at AU Keramat SC? maybe ask iskazulka he is eqmal's brother whistling.gif
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dares

Original Kayu @ SS2, Petaling Jaya
No. 64, Jalan SS2/10, 47300 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.

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TT at here, everyone ok or not?
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 14 2013, 09:40 AM)
dares

Original Kayu @ SS2, Petaling Jaya
No. 64, Jalan SS2/10, 47300 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.

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TT at here, everyone ok or not?
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I not confirm coming or not la but if Kayu, I got a place better than SS2 one and there are plenty parking lots.
Behind my opis de Kayu Aman Suria will be better.
Google Earth and see and you will notice there are plenty of parking of lots around the shop.
guess we know sometimes how difficult it is to find parking in SS2. what more for a TT
Aman suria one is corner lot (2 shop lots attached).

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SS2, I jalan kaki also can sampai. whistling.gif

Just joking, I will need 30mins to reach there by walking. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 14 2013, 09:40 AM)
dares

Original Kayu @ SS2, Petaling Jaya
No. 64, Jalan SS2/10, 47300 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.

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TT at here, everyone ok or not?
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 10:08 AM)
I not confirm coming or not la but if Kayu, I got a place better than SS2 one and there are plenty parking lots.
Behind my opis de Kayu Aman Suria will be better.
Google Earth and see and you will notice there are plenty of parking of lots around the shop.
guess we know sometimes how difficult it is to find parking in SS2. what more for a TT
Aman suria one is corner lot (2 shop lots attached).
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Either one I also can. Please fight until can decide which one sleep.gif

QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 14 2013, 10:23 AM)
SS2, I jalan kaki also can sampai. whistling.gif

Just joking, I will need 30mins to reach there by walking. sweat.gif
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I'm sure everyone can wait 30 minutes for you brows.gif
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Hi & Good morning, Everyone!! notworthy.gif

1 Question...

Has any Bro opened up the Timing Belt Cover of their Gaga b4?

If not by yrself, hv yu seen it done?
Mayb when changing to LCPs? Or even when changing the Timing Belt itself?

Pls advise on how 2do so...
Any probs, obstacles?

As observed nia, looks like only 3 small bolts holding the cover in position only...
So wld juz removing those bolts be enuf?
Is the Engine Mounting nxt 2it in the way of removal?

TQVM in adv.

Hv a great day!! cheers.gif
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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 14 2013, 10:59 AM)
Hi & Good morning, Everyone!!  notworthy.gif

1 Question...

Has any Bro opened up the Timing Belt Cover of their Gaga b4?

If not by yrself, hv yu seen it done?
Mayb when changing to LCPs? Or even when changing the Timing Belt itself?

Pls advise on how 2do so...
Any probs, obstacles?

As observed nia, looks like only 3 small bolts holding the cover in position only...
So wld juz removing those bolts be enuf?
Is the Engine Mounting nxt 2it in the way of removal?

TQVM in adv.

Hv a great day!! cheers.gif
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Plan to change it DIY again ?
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ss2, i need 2 days to sampai if i jalan kaki. demit far. also i dislike kayu.
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 11:03 AM)
Plan to change it DIY again ?
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Not really...kinda too early 2do so...Timing Belt, I mean... tongue.gif
To b honest, am in midst of another kinda DIY project lo... brows.gif icon_idea.gif

Will share if successful & good outcome...
But need good advice first b4 attempt 2do...
Not wanna get stuck & helpless while trying...
So pls, Bros.... icon_question.gif pls...?

**More worried abt removal of 3rd bolt ie lower right hand side one...these bolts appear 2b kind long.

TQVM.. notworthy.gif

ps. Hv alwaz also believed that knowledge gained is never a waste wan... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 14 2013, 11:24 AM)
Not really...kinda too early 2do so...Timing Belt, I mean... tongue.gif
To b honest, am in midst of another kinda DIY project lo... brows.gif  icon_idea.gif

Will share if successful & good outcome...
But need good advice first b4 attempt 2do...
Not wanna get stuck & helpless while trying...
So pls, Bros.... icon_question.gif  pls...?

**More worried abt removal of 3rd bolt ie lower right hand side one...these bolts appear 2b kind long.

TQVM..  notworthy.gif

ps. Hv alwaz also believed that knowledge gained is never a waste wan...  thumbup.gif
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ayam notworthy.gif notworthy.gif you
You always banyak semangat for DIY projects.
Both servis&maintenance and new stuffs.
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guys, anybody here installed ficd? thinking to put @ my gen2 or kelisa laugh.gif hmm.gif
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today last day cuti. at home resting. kena read 25 pages of posts.... zzzz..
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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 10:08 AM)
I not confirm coming or not la but if Kayu, I got a place better than SS2 one and there are plenty parking lots.
Behind my opis de Kayu Aman Suria will be better.
Google Earth and see and you will notice there are plenty of parking of lots around the shop.
guess we know sometimes how difficult it is to find parking in SS2. what more for a TT
Aman suria one is corner lot (2 shop lots attached).
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the part which kayu in ss 2 is not in the major commercial centre, so sumhow still will can get parking wan...
aman suria ar... hmmm, even thou i know there's alot parking, but sumhow i feel sum ppl will sesat as the place quite inside... unsure.gif

i prefer ss2 kayu as, the waiter there is friendly and got a/c got TV better environment...

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QUOTE(zeone @ Aug 13 2013, 08:14 PM)
Hi agin, Bro... notworthy.gif

Was wondering if yu can share yr informative & experienced views on how one can improve the braking system of our Gagas w/o ABS/EBD, etc?

Wld the following be of any help? And in what order of action if done in stages (due to budget probs?)?

Changing to :
1. Dbl Diaphragm Brake Servo
2. Larger Master Brake Cylinder
3. Stainless Steel Reinforced Brake pipes eg Pro RS...
4. Better/Larger Disc Rotors
5. Better Disc Calipers

TQVM in adv.  rclxms.gif  thumbup.gif
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For me, I will go for the brake hose 1st if pads and rotors still new. If pads and rotor also almost time then I just buy SS brake hose, pads and rotors 1 after another stock at home and change 1 shot.

By changing to SS brake hose, you can feel the brakes more firmer already one. If budget is still a concern DIY SS brake hose by tying lots of cable tie on your stock brake hose.

QUOTE(tzxsean @ Aug 13 2013, 10:55 PM)
what is TT?

Im thinking to persuade my dad let me choose Saga ..

cos macam all ppl in my circle choose Myvi over Saga

bcos of the "problems" perceived by the public over the years on Saga's image and issues

for me a SV is sufficient .. my official 1st car does not need to be high end
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The only problem you have with Saga is you will get poison with all the mods the guys have over here.

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 14 2013, 12:59 AM)
davidke20

i still proceed to give the rear apm lowered springs a try, much stiffer, absolutely hate it on humps/potholes aka malaysian roads.

however the stability is there, i tried to press it from outside, as you said, only 1 bounce or barely much as the absorbers are full time engaged as the spring's much shorter than the H&R's and the absorbers, being sports oriented short stroke, it is stiff as f*** lol. http://www.thousand.com.my/index.php?m=pro...yID=41&proID=75

additionally, i've advanced my distributor ignition timing by 3-5 degrees
my mechanic help me advanced it and said right now it's the max for Ron 95, not sure how true is that, but damn my car suddenly become damn powerful lol. 130-140km/h can still see it climb decently compared to before rofl.
i think during the gymkhana sessions i could perhaps sit in 2nd gear without first gear for torque as that could upset the car balance/tires.

just tested the route from my house to kl sentral, decent twisties between duta - mahameru, averaging 130-160km/h.
feedback is really good, the stiffness really shines here, and thankfully it did not scrape the rear fenders unlike previously, probably because the absorbers are much better this time around.

it still hops a little if i throttle steer too much/too fast, however overall it's a lot more stable than before. i still prefer the old setup on a daily ride basis, however for track days, it is no doubt the current springs should fare much better. we'll see how it goes this sunday, if its really positive, i'll decide to keep the rear springs, probably have to end up keeping everything because i doubt anyone will buy the fronts only rofl. actually it does make sense though, if you have passengers at the rear, iswaras tend to sink quite a bit on stock spring/absorber setups and some humps will scrape similar to wira's.
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QUOTE(r3apers @ Aug 14 2013, 12:05 PM)
the part which kayu in ss 2 is not in the major commercial centre, so sumhow still will can get parking wan...
aman suria ar... hmmm, even thou i know there's alot parking, but sumhow i feel sum ppl will sesat as the place quite inside...  unsure.gif

i prefer ss2 kayu as, the waiter there is friendly and got a/c got TV better environment...
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yes, you are right, not that area punya ppl can get sesat easily on how to come in though its fairly straightforward.
All the way straight only after turn in from Kelana Jaya Church.
but ayam just giving alternative icon_rolleyes.gif
nor ayam confirm coming hehehe laugh.gif
so leave it to you guys to decide whistling.gif

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last friday when go balik kampung guna LEKAS, at first drive as usual 100km/h the fastest, then saw a myvi coasting around 120km/h keep overtaking cars from middle lane go right lane then masuk middle lane again. dunno why, maybe mau syok abit, saje kejar itu maibee maintain 110km/h, then udah jauh sikit, kejar from 120km/h until 140km/h on the left lane. then drive maintain 110km/h. then tapau itu maibee naik bukit around 100km/h. temiang-ampangan area i drive biasa aje. lol.
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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 14 2013, 12:15 PM)
last friday when go balik kampung guna LEKAS, at first drive as usual 100km/h the fastest, then saw a myvi coasting around 120km/h keep overtaking cars from middle lane go right lane then masuk middle lane again. dunno why, maybe mau syok abit, saje kejar itu maibee maintain 110km/h, then udah jauh sikit, kejar from 120km/h until 140km/h on the left lane. then drive maintain 110km/h. then tapau itu maibee naik bukit around 100km/h. temiang-ampangan area i drive biasa aje. lol.
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Guys, I have signed the loan agreement and paid down payment on 23 July for my Saga SV manual. Until now still no news yawn.gif for my case is it normal?

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QUOTE(ruby1288 @ Aug 14 2013, 12:11 PM)
yes, you are right, not that area punya ppl can get sesat easily on how to come in though its fairly straightforward.
All the way straight only after turn in from Kelana Jaya Church.
but ayam just giving alternative  icon_rolleyes.gif
nor ayam confirm coming hehehe  laugh.gif
so leave it to you guys to decide  whistling.gif
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haha, c how lo... dares takut sesat lagi pergi holland... whistling.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Aug 14 2013, 12:15 PM)
last friday when go balik kampung guna LEKAS, at first drive as usual 100km/h the fastest, then saw a myvi coasting around 120km/h keep overtaking cars from middle lane go right lane then masuk middle lane again. dunno why, maybe mau syok abit, saje kejar itu maibee maintain 110km/h, then udah jauh sikit, kejar from 120km/h until 140km/h on the left lane. then drive maintain 110km/h. then tapau itu maibee naik bukit around 100km/h. temiang-ampangan area i drive biasa aje. lol.
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Fuh....streetracer notworthy.gif

QUOTE(lkleon @ Aug 14 2013, 12:26 PM)
Guys, I have signed the loan agreement and paid down payment on 23 July for my Saga SV manual. Until now still no news  yawn.gif  for my case is it normal?
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QUOTE(lkleon @ Aug 14 2013, 12:26 PM)
Guys, I have signed the loan agreement and paid down payment on 23 July for my Saga SV manual. Until now still no news  yawn.gif  for my case is it normal?
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Heard SV got a long waiting period.

Go fucuk your SA, fucuk jgn tak fucuk flex.gif

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