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TSJayFactor
post May 19 2006, 05:35 PM, updated 20y ago

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Hello, i wanna know where in KL/PJ area to find airbrush acessories such as the airbrush hose/pipe and etc. . Please help me out blush.gif Thx blush.gif
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post May 19 2006, 05:48 PM

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in Kl you can try at art supply shop in petaling street..there are 2 shop there with the hose and coupling

you can also go to Miniature Hobby, Mid Valley..there have a few couplings, connector, hose and stand

normal DIY machine shop do have the hose and the coupling

what airbrush do u own??
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post May 20 2006, 12:57 AM

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Erm, where exactly in petaling street, any landmarks or whatsoever? I tried miniature hobby at mid valley, but they said they dont have it sad.gif
Ermm, im having the Puma airbrush, some Taiwan brand, bought it off a forumer of XL toys forum, airbrush + compressor for 720 only thumbup.gif
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post May 22 2006, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(JayFactor @ May 20 2006, 12:57 AM)
Erm, where exactly in petaling street, any landmarks or whatsoever? I tried miniature hobby at mid valley, but they said they dont have it sad.gif
Ermm, im having the Puma airbrush, some Taiwan brand, bought it off a forumer of XL toys forum, airbrush + compressor for 720 only thumbup.gif
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boy, where do u live?? i thought PS is a hot and famous spot..

it's somewhere near the Kota Raya shopping complex...and puduraya...i think everybody knows Puduraya.... it's somewhere down the street....

there are 2 art supply shop..

what exactly do you need??
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post May 22 2006, 10:37 AM

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i saw one full set of airbrush yesterday at graffiti toys at BTS
try to go check it out there.
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post May 22 2006, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(enJiNer @ May 22 2006, 08:36 AM)
boy, where do u live?? i thought PS is a hot and famous spot..

it's somewhere near the Kota Raya shopping complex...and puduraya...i think everybody knows Puduraya.... it's somewhere down the street....

there are 2 art supply shop..

what exactly do you need??
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lol, actually im not much of a KL person, so im not so familiar with KL, im more familiar with PJ area, so wasnt sure which part along PS u were talking about, anyways thanks for the info, i guess i'll be able to find my way there notworthy.gif just needa pick up a few items at an art supply shop biggrin.gif

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post May 23 2006, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ May 22 2006, 10:37 AM)
i saw one full set of airbrush yesterday at graffiti toys at BTS
try to go check it out there.
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how much is it and what is BTS?

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i saw once a complete set of airbrush handpiece + compressor selling for RM450 only.. but of course all are made from Taiwan.. and dont know hows the quality like.. smile.gif

thanks
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post May 23 2006, 03:59 PM

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I found my way to one of the art shops at PS, called Venus Art. Couldnt find the other one though.. biggrin.gif


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post May 23 2006, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(JayFactor @ May 23 2006, 03:59 PM)
I found my way to one of the art shops at PS, called Venus Art. Couldnt find the other one though.. biggrin.gif
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good..the other is called Nanyang Art..is further up a few meters


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There's also a shop at Taman Mayang, Petaling Jaya. It's near the old LimKokWing Institute of Technology. Ask around, there's a shop nearby called Win's Art. I think they sell most of the spare parts for your air brush, compressor. If you want paints, depending on what you use. There's a shop at Atria Shopping Mall in Damansara Jaya which brings in Gunzi Paint. Located at the 3rd floor, next to the video game shop. It's a halfcut shop. Usually you see alot of soft toys, but if you actually go in, you can see alot of air-fix stuff. Both place are nearby... Cheers!
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QUOTE(kuman @ May 23 2006, 11:33 AM)
how much is it and what is BTS?

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i saw once a complete set of airbrush handpiece + compressor selling for RM450 only.. but of course all are made from Taiwan.. and dont know hows the quality like.. smile.gif

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i think they sell for both compressor and the gun for RM5**

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QUOTE(JayFactor @ May 23 2006, 03:59 PM)
I found my way to one of the art shops at PS, called Venus Art. Couldnt find the other one though.. biggrin.gif
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anyone else been to this shop????good or not???is it a big shop or small???got plenty of things or not????
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anyone?????
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post Jul 14 2006, 12:30 AM

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Venus Art has been around for XX years with a very large variety of art materials to chooses from. Though I havent been there myself for years since school days.. the place should still be the same or better as it caters to the KL arts ppl.

Myself looking for a good airbrush set (cheap too), at the moment I've seen this from a shop around my place.
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Asking price WITHOUT the handpiece is RM800
Dual action 0.2mm handpiece asking for RM160

What do your guys think?

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post Jul 14 2006, 11:34 AM

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yesterday saw at bts graffiti toys selling their air brush for RM558
its a taiwan made..dunno ok or not
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Wow.. big difference in price.. Must go see!

Did you notice if it had;

1. Moisture trap
2. Pressure gague
3. Dual action brush

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post Jul 14 2006, 08:46 PM

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just wondering if Venus Artwork Supply sells Iwata airbrushes.coz i dun trust those taiwan made ones.I only trust Iwata from people's experiences
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Whats the estimated price for Iwata airbrush? blush.gif
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post Jul 16 2006, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 14 2006, 08:49 PM)
Whats the estimated price for Iwata airbrush?  blush.gif
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can't say for sure,they have lots of models. u can look here or here for reference prices(they're in USD btw)
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 16 2006, 03:20 PM)
can't say for sure,they have lots of models. u can look here or here for reference prices(they're in USD btw)
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Thanks for sharing

1 Iwata brush can buy 2 taiwan/china brush laio blush.gif

Will try to go venus art to check it out soon
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 16 2006, 09:40 PM)
Thanks for sharing

1 Iwata brush can buy 2 taiwan/china brush laio  blush.gif

Will try to go venus art to check it out soon
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can u update us when u go there??? i think even if cost 2 times more,I've NEVER EVER heard anything bad about them.n furthermore,if u buy a taiwan brand,if it fails,gotta buy another one.So why dun just go n buy the best icon_idea.gif
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yeah..go for the one with easy to find spare parts....

i used Tamiya HG SF a/b...once the needle broke the tip...i got the spare from Japan for RM29...
they got all spares so u dont have to worry

cheap china made doesnt have aftersale support...


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QUOTE(enJiNer @ Jul 17 2006, 10:00 AM)
yeah..go for the one with easy to find spare parts....

i used Tamiya HG SF a/b...once the needle broke the tip...i got the spare from Japan for RM29...
they got all spares so u dont have to worry

cheap china made doesnt have aftersale support...
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u've been to Venus Artwork before???they got sell Iwata o not???Is the shop big or small???What kind of things do they sell???
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where actually is venus artwork..might wanna give them a visit also
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at petaling street one right
still there?

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post Jul 17 2006, 03:12 PM

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here Sabah RM799 for complete set
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jul 17 2006, 03:08 PM)
at petaling street one right
still there?
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venus at petaling street?
where the exact location?
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 06:46 AM)
can u update us when u go there??? ...
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Hopefully by this week.. have to find the time to hope over here. If ya have something ya want me to look out for, pls post here early.

QUOTE(enJiNer @ Jul 17 2006, 10:00 AM)
yeah..go for the one with easy to find spare parts....
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Will ask if if they seel Iwata spare parts.. Thanks

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 02:39 PM)
u've been to Venus Artwork before???they got sell Iwata o not???Is the shop big or small???What kind of things do they sell???
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I havent been there for years blush.gif Back then it was huge and had any art related materials you wanted.

QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 17 2006, 02:57 PM)
where actually is venus artwork..might wanna give them a visit also
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PS boutique! whistling.gif Petaling Street.. Where exactly?, last time I remember is futher down from the "mata kuching" stall.. maybe relocated I duno.. But sure I can find it again.

QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jul 17 2006, 03:08 PM)
at petaling street one right
still there?
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Should be..

QUOTE(cubex @ Jul 17 2006, 03:12 PM)
here Sabah RM799 for complete set
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Err.. whats the package like?

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I Googled their info below to be sure. Want to see for myself the compressors and brushes they have tongue.gif

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Venus Art & Stationery Sdn BHd
Address  90, Jalan Petaling, , 50000 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan, Malaysia
Phone  603-2072-8807
Fax  603-2078-8259


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Nanyang Art Supplies Sdn Bhd
136, Jalan Petaling, Kuala Lumpur, 50000
50000 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Tel: 03-2078 7066
Fax: 03-2078 8525


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ezCISS,
RM799 only the motor and gun
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that's the cheapest I can find..brand I forgot...but i think its from Taiwan

another shop KK-toys.com selling RM2,000

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i know where 454
belanja me longan water, asam laksa, soya bean at petaling street
i bring u go
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shinchan,
oi no belanja me de
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QUOTE(cubex @ Jul 17 2006, 03:25 PM)
ezCISS,
RM799 only the motor and gun
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that's the cheapest I can find..brand I forgot...but i think its from Taiwan

another shop KK-toys.com selling RM2,000
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The one I saw at my place here from CHINA blush.gif same same lah.. I'm looking for those with moisture trap and pressure gague.

2K? rclxub.gif I went to the website.. kenot see airbursh products there. Some of the kits more EX then KL prices.. but then, that KK I suppose.


QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jul 17 2006, 03:29 PM)
i know where 454
belanja me longan water, asam laksa, soya bean at petaling street
i bring u go
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doh.gif How to get lost in PS? one stright road only wut.. just look left and right biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Jul 17 2006, 03:29 PM)
i know where 454
belanja me longan water, asam laksa, soya bean at petaling street
i bring u go
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can can..
but if sesat i wont belanja you already lo
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ezCISS,i have no specific items to look for.maybe can see if they have Iwata airbrush,paints(look for createx if can),n maybe can see if got sel X-Acto Knives n Blades.better still,when u go,write everything u saw rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 03:52 PM)
ezCISS,i have no specific items to look for.maybe can see if they have Iwata airbrush,paints(look for createx if can),n maybe can see if got sel X-Acto Knives n Blades.better still,when u go,write everything u saw rclxms.gif laugh.gif
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Noted bro.. If i can, I get ya some PIC too wink.gif

1. Iwata airbrush (dual action 4 sure) - Compressor?
2. Createx paint
3. X-acto Knives & Blade

Wah.. dun think can write eveything lah.. that wan stock inventory liao

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just came back from tuition n my friend said this saturday will go to Petaling Street to look at Venus Artwork.maybe i can search for myself,but just look around lah just in case i don't go.as for compressor,i dun noe,i think just need a Moisture trap (surely they'll have it).btw,what are u guys gonna use the airbrush for???
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 06:30 PM)
.....as for compressor,i dun noe,i think just need a Moisture trap (surely they'll have it).btw,what are u guys gonna use the airbrush for???
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Seems not all compressors have moisture trap OR pressure gague. Thats why I wana go see myself also. Main usage = Airbursh PG Gundam! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 17 2006, 09:04 PM)
Seems not all compressors have moisture trap OR pressure gague.  Thats why I wana go see myself also.    Main usage = Airbursh PG Gundam!  biggrin.gif
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lol yeah i noe.i saw one in a hardware shop near my house,seems pretty good.with regulator,20 litre tank n going for 290 iirc.lol gundams eh??for me i'm painting Rc Cars bodyshells n planning to make money from it drool.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 09:16 PM)
.......,20 litre tank n going for 290 ..........
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WOW! thats a very nice price! 20 liter tank.. Hmm seems like the big heavy duty type, hope that it's not too noisy though. The china one I saw are those mini types.. looks kind of handy for night air brushing in the room. Size wise, it's smaller then an A4 paper.. easy to store too.
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 17 2006, 09:27 PM)
WOW! thats a very nice price!  20 liter tank.. Hmm seems like the big heavy duty type, hope that it's not too noisy though.  The china one I saw are those mini types.. looks kind of handy for night air brushing in the room.  Size wise, it's smaller then an A4 paper.. easy to store too.
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lol i'll have to see what they have at venus.if small one,better,but make sure got at least 3 gallon tank or else it wil pulse air
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 18 2006, 06:41 AM)
........ make sure got at least 3 gallon tank or else it wil pulse air
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3 Gallon Tank? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Err.. dun think I have enough space here to park such a big tank in me room.
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 18 2006, 12:47 PM)
3 Gallon Tank?  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

Err.. dun think I have enough space here to park such a big tank in me room.
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lol i see.i have a room in my house that no one uses.so can paint there.maybe when u go there,ask them what is reccomended for ur budget.i'm sure u'll find something.can't wait to go there this weekend.i've been wanting to get an airbrush for 2 years.maybe this thread can also post stuffs that you have airbrushed???then it'll be great
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Share what i found on another forum. Seem this chap bought it as a set from "Sunshine Plaza" for SGD230. = RM540! shocking.gif

Not sure whats the "visual" difference between "baby compressor" & "mini compressor" yet, but the former seems to ber very noisy and the later silent.

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as i expect,small compressor,but no tank.i'd prefer a bigger one with a 3 galon tank.but since ur space is limited,this might be the way to go.damn the airbrush is an iwata rip-off.get the iwata,trust me,u'll thank me later
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Sure i'll heed your good advise.. For RM290 with tank is good price compared to that little fella. Do you know how "silent" it is ?
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no,not yet.i'll see first what they have in venus.
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FIELD REPORT

I managed to escape today for some intelligence gathering. Bus No. 11 (jalan kaki lah) & Bata rubber threads brought me a round trip PS Boutique, LYP, BTS, & SG WANG.. really burn rubber today!

Iwatta = all dun have
Createx paint = they never heard b4
X-Acto = VA oni


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After the "mata kuching" shop, on the left side of the road.
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Sparmax Brush RM2XX
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Olym??? Brush RM2XX
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X-Acto Knive RM2X
#2 Blade RM1X
#11 Balde RM1X
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Sparmax Compressors RM6XX
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"Uncle" was very knowledgeable and helpful. Spare parts for the Sparmax is available also.

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Further down after the traffic lights, on the right side of the road.
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Sparmax Compressors RM7XX
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Mostly Tamiya RC stuff, Tamiya Paints 1 whole rack to select (RM3X). Thinners, surfacer, etc (very limited)

Nanyang
Slightly further down, on the left side of the road.
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All stuff looking 4 Dun have! rclxub.gif
"Uncle" there say better to find yellow pages for what we need! doh.gif




Flashed over to LYP, BTS, & SG Wang with BATA threads.. pheww sweat.gif

XL-Shop - have a few Mr Colour paints (RM3.X) & Gundam Marker
Time machine - didnt see any
Toy quest - didnt see any
Graffiity Toys - didnt see any
Toy Xpression - didnt see any
DaiSheng (BTS) - sparmax compressor, thinner, etc (same as PS boutique)
Stardust - Close shop! (went makan I think)
Litt tak - didnt see any
Diamond - Dun wan go in..

Maybe the above got some stuff "sorok" at one corner of the shop, but too tired to ask liao .. If i look high an low, kenot find. Just went to the next shop tongue.gif

Cheers!

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wow so no iwatas ah???cry.gif
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some noob question..
we really need the compressor for the gun to work?
is there any other option than the compressor?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 20 2006, 10:16 AM)
some noob question..
we really need the compressor for the gun to work?
is there any other option than the compressor?
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yah blow into the brush hahaha j/k j/k.other than air compressor,can use a can air propellant,but doesn't last long
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^ thanks..
but how much does the can cost?
its more suitable for people who use less airbrush rite
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 20 2006, 06:34 AM)
wow so no iwatas ah???cry.gif
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Well.. I covered all those shops in KL, all dun have. Maybe somewhere else in KL sad.gif Anybody know? Pls help lah

I found this though
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No. 45, Jln Segambut Tengah, Taman Segambut, 51200 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan
Phone: 03-6251 4757

I think it's better to call them and ask who are their retailers in KL.


QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 20 2006, 10:16 AM)
some noob question..
we really need the compressor for the gun to work?
is there any other option than the compressor?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 20 2006, 03:32 PM)
^ thanks..
but how much does the can cost?
its more suitable for people who use less airbrush rite
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A few option.
1. Air Compressor (like above)
2. Air Can (RM4X if not mistaken) - Single Use
3. Tamiya spray can (RM3X) - Single Use Per colour
3. Compress Air Tank - those huge missle looking tanks found at Aquarium shops

It's all come down to cost/benefit that suits your needs.

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so basically single use means just good for one color la rite..or do you mean by those color spray can connect with the airbrush gun?
like that better save up for compressor

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Air Can = Single use = use until no more "oomph", b'coz cannot refill the gas in the can.

Of course you can use as many colours that you have in your inventory, just as long as the Air Can still has the "ommph"

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Colour spray can = direct spray (airbrush not required)

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ic ic..but what do you mean by this..

3. Tamiya spray can (RM3X) - Single Use Per colour


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Those are mini spray cans (compare to the ones that you see at the hardware shops). It's specifially designed for model kits. You just buy the required colour cans you need and spray away until it's finished. If not mistaken it's RM30 plus per can per colour

Most of the colors are gloss type. (i prefer matt) and you cant get the fine shading effects like a proper airbrush.

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Iwata (M) Sdn Bhd
No. 45, Jln Segambut Tengah, Taman Segambut, 51200 Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan
Phone: 03-6251 4757


I called then just now.. this the info he gave me on whats currently available

AirBrush
http://www.iwata-medea.com/products/airbru...e/hpch_info.jsp = RM7XX
http://www.iwata-medea.com/products/airbru...ion/cr_info.jsp = RM4XX

Compressor
http://www.iwata-medea.com/products/compre...silver_info.jsp = RM7XX
http://www.iwata-medea.com/products/compre...artpro_info.jsp = RM16xx

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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 20 2006, 04:57 PM)
what number u just called???i called the number u posted,then a woman gave me the number of the sales person.when i called the sales person ,he said he donnoe me n then hang up sweat.gif

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I called the number above. I guess you should try during office hours. I think their main focus are the industrial players rather then us small timers.


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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 20 2006, 08:24 PM)
I called the number above.  I guess you should try during office hours.  I think their main focus are the industrial players rather then us small timers.
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lol u just asked for prices izzit???would u mind to ask whether there is a dealer in KL???
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 20 2006, 08:47 PM)
lol u just asked for prices izzit???would u mind to ask whether there is a dealer in KL???
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I had a long chat with the sales guy actually. Airbrush and compressor Q&A. That was my 1st question posed. He said go to their office in Segambut.

Maybe thats why I could not find any Iwata stuff in KL town shops.
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i call the iwata shop at segambut just now..
they mention some price airbrush purposely for hobby one..
from RM400-RM650


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now you all should understand why the sales person dont want to layan coz suddenly so many ppls call up and ask the same question. maybe he thought you all just playing around.

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haha and that include you la..

so iwata is the best brand izzit?
that sparmax available at VA ok or not?
was thinking to get that one
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 20 2006, 09:25 PM)
i call the iwata shop at segambut just now..
they mention some price airbrush purposely for hobby one..
from RM400-RM650
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Huh? I already posted all the info for you guys mah. For sure the sales man vmad.gif with people asking the same questions again and again.
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 20 2006, 09:28 PM)
haha and that include you la..

so iwata is the best brand izzit?
that sparmax available at VA ok or not?
was thinking to get that one
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yeah certainly one of the best around.i think sparmax would be ok,but dun see any pro painters reccomending it.the thing is,with cheaper brushes,paint may clogs n get a bit stuck.this always happens with the cheap brush.but with iwata,people say they're so smooth n sprays nicely.so in my mind,spending the little extra money will be better in the long run
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i saw tamiya sell sparmax mini compressor for rm559
whats the different between mini and normal compressor?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 22 2006, 11:43 AM)
i saw tamiya sell sparmax mini compressor for rm559
whats the different between mini and normal compressor?
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as u can guess from the name ,SIZE blush.gif
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guys.....my pieces of advices

for those new to Airbrush, getting a china make AB for a starter will be a wise move. the function and out put is the same, and having a good care of the AB will also last u for a long period of AB joyness.

those branded AB like iwata, olympus, badger are welknown for their brand name and originality, where those taiwan or china make is a copy cat version of it...

for example, the champion on the gunhdam seed competition helb in midvalley june this year, he use the china make AB as well, the result and effect come out great...so y force yourself to get a branded AB while u are still new to this gadget...
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for compressor, it's the term that "wat u paid is wat u get"...

those compressor with 3 gallon tank is merely for industry used, like those for bicycle shop or motor shop to pump air....if u r planning to put that compressor in your room, be prepare to kena a GOOD 1 for your housemate or family...coz it gonna be very very noisy....

then for those baby or mini compressor, these will be the most suitable for our modeler as they are less noise and small...but u cant use it for long hour as the compressor will keep on pump when it's on, so chance of overheating is there...but for a modeler this will really be a most suitable compressor coz we dun want to get too much of the paint fume, so a break after 1/2 painting session is recommended...




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this is the noise level for iwata cheapest range of compressor....price range at rm650+

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their most expensive AB....RM690+

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where did u get te iwata airbrush???


i think ur advice make sense,sunnyboy.now i'm considering getting the sparmax brush ezCISS posted a few days ago (selling at Venus Artwork) n oso getting the small sparmax compressor(also selling at VA).actually,the sparmax brush n compressor would cost almost the same as an Iwata Eclipse CS with a 3 gallon tank compressor.Maybe i'll try the Sparmax first and when i got money from my Rc bodyshell painting business,can upgrade to Iwata.thanks for the advise sunnyboy

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not a problem...however, i had a fren just bought the AB set frm grafiti in timesquare..

so far so good for the compressor, it hav a auto kill off function when the compressor not in use, even with the power on...not a bad choice also
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the iwata AB not mine la, just a sample AB in Iwata office, i take the pic using my hp....
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 23 2006, 04:38 PM)
not a problem...however, i had a fren just bought the AB set frm grafiti in timesquare..

so far so good for the compressor, it hav a auto kill off function when the compressor not in use, even with the power on...not a bad choice also
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does it pulse air??? coz the tank is small
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 23 2006, 04:39 PM)
the iwata AB not mine la, just a sample AB in Iwata office, i take the pic using my hp....
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office???where???at Wilayah Persekutuan izzit???
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wat is pulse air?

iwata office at gombak
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 23 2006, 05:06 PM)
wat is pulse air?

iwata office at gombak
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same as u said:

the compressor will keep on pump when it's on
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oic...it stop when u didnt pull the trigger....
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 23 2006, 11:41 PM)
oic...it stop when u didnt pull the trigger....
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huh??just wanna noe if the sparmax compressor would run for about 2-3 hours straight
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can anyone tell me what the use of the tank
and what if mini compressor without a tank?
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can anyone tell me what the use of the tank
and what if mini compressor without a tank?
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hmm if without a tank it will overheat easily i think.and will pulse air.but if u take a break every 45-60 minutes,should be ok
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ic..so the tank just to avoid overheat.
pulse air means its shut down it self?
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 24 2006, 03:03 PM)
ic..so the tank just to avoid overheat.
pulse air means its shut down it self?
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yah basically like this.sometimes it shoots air,sometimes it doesn't.i can imagine that would be very frustrating
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^ that is if you continuosly spray right
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 24 2006, 04:05 PM)
^ that is if you continuosly spray right
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yup.btw guys how to go to petaling street with Putra LRT??
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 22 2006, 11:43 AM)
..whats the different between mini and normal compressor?
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Mini is the smaller version of those industrial compressors commonly seen in Bicycle & Frame Shop.

Baby Compressor are those without air tanks - (they use only Diaphragm to pump air)

QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 23 2006, 05:06 PM)
wat is pulse air?
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Like a small hick-up when pumping air = not so consistent lah (It's really not that serious unless your a professional air brush user.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 24 2006, 06:45 AM)
huh??just wanna noe if the sparmax compressor would run for about 2-3 hours straight
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But seriously, will you be airbrushing for 2-3 hours straight? I doubt we can hold the airbrush steady for 15 minutes accurately without proper training. When you take a break, so can the compressor.

QUOTE(VincC454 @ Jul 24 2006, 10:36 AM)
can anyone tell me what the use of the tank
and what if mini compressor without a tank?
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Having a tank will reduce the "pulse".. super smooth and consistent flow of air. For model kit painting, nevermind lah.. the parts are so small and it's not like you gona be painting a huge mural. As long as it get the job done.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 24 2006, 06:47 PM)
yup.btw guys how to go to petaling street with Putra LRT??
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Stop at Pasar Seni (Central Market) station... the basic directions and pics i posted above should be sufficient to get you there.

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For sure the best and top of the range equipment are ideal, but still you have to work within the investment and return you get. It's also about skill, as it's only as good as the users ability. Unless i'm gona use it every weekend for the next 3 years.. it may not be worth to invest in such high end equipment. That also means buying kits to airbush evey month! Got to strike an even and practical balance for "hobby" use lah.

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QUOTE(JayFactor @ May 23 2006, 03:59 PM)
I found my way to one of the art shops at PS, called Venus Art. Couldnt find the other one though.. biggrin.gif
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yup, venus art a nanyang art at PS, but im not sure if they got sell, long time not being there...
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boring liao.can't wait to get my AB after PMR.when are you guys getting yours??
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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Jul 25 2006, 04:36 PM)
yup, venus art a nanyang art at PS, but im not sure if they got sell, long time not being there...
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Dont bother.. dont have. Info posted HERE already

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 25 2006, 07:40 PM)
boring liao.can't wait to get my AB after PMR.when are you guys getting yours??
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Target and Budget Set already.. just a matter of fund allocation cry.gif

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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 25 2006, 07:50 PM)
Dont bother.. dont have.  Info posted HERE  already
Target and Budget Set already.. just a matter of fund allocation  cry.gif
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lol my budget is about 900 for the sparmax compressor and airbrush.n then at least another 200 for the paints,then i can start my painting business drool.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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btw ezCISS,does the sparmax compressor u found at VA (the rm 6xx one) comes with the airhose n moisture trap.i see the moisture trap,but don't see the hose.btw,while you were at at VA,did they sell any paints???if so,what brand???
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 26 2006, 08:19 PM)
btw ezCISS,does the sparmax compressor u found at VA (the rm 6xx one) comes with the airhose n moisture trap.i see the moisture trap,but don't see the hose.btw,while you were at at VA,did they sell any paints???if so,what brand???
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If i remember correctly, for the unit WITH air tank, Pressure gauge & Pressure regulator only. (from the my PIC, i didnt see the moisture trap also), the set is with airhose (see the bunch of black hose eveywhere?). BUT no Airbush Hanger. Uncle said dont waste $$ to buy the Airbush Hanger.. just use some DIY wire for that. (airbrush hanger was RM7X !)

Please speak to the "Uncle" there.. very very friendly, and remember to ask for discount! (he did offer to me that time lah)

VA dun have acrilic paints, Hop over to "DaiSheng" down the road, TAMIYA paints and Thinner there.

You may want to compare VA & DaiSheng compressors 1st before plunking out your hard earned $$$.

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isn't the price of the compressor at VA at least cheaper than rm100 compared to Daisheng???btw,did the tamiya paints come in small bottles???
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Best to compare for yourself bro.. RM6XX and RM7XX, but not necessary RM100 difference. As you can see they obviously from the Pics, they are different models. Maybe one is better then the other!

Yes.. 1 whole rack of spay can and 1 whole rack of bottle paints at DaiSheng to choose from. Alot of Tamiya RC cars there too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 27 2006, 03:33 AM)
Best to compare for yourself bro.. RM6XX and RM7XX, but not necessary RM100 difference.  As you can see they obviously from the Pics, they are different models.  Maybe one is better then the other!

Yes.. 1 whole rack of spay can and 1 whole rack of bottle paints at DaiSheng to choose from.  Alot of Tamiya RC cars there too tongue.gif
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wow ur up early laugh.gif izzit different eh???can't see any difference except maybe the VA one is single piston n daisheng is double piston.so might be that the double piston is better,but maybe if buy both sparmax airbrush n compressor from VA,might get some worthy discounts.i'm not sure really if double pistor is better or single piston is better??maybe double piston is quieter
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I cant say if it single or dual piston as those models I saw cannot be found on www.sparmax.com.tw . Visually I noticed on the spot was that the Pressure gauge & Pressure regulator were different. There we some specification on the sticker though.

As you can see, It was a very very exhausing day scouting the whole of KL, so I didnt check it out 1000%. Just a preliminary survery to know where and what i could get.

For sure on my buying day, I will do an acoustic test in the shop to compare it's "Ooooi orang mau tidur lah" properties wink.gif

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interesting input on the AB & compressor guys....
i'm not sure if anyone already mentioned this in here.. there's a shop in Taman Mayang that sells AB for around RM1XX.... but its China brand la...

as for the compressor.. i'm also looking for one... but being here in Penang/Kedah area.. the option is very limited...

what i found so far there a Hobby shop here that sells a china brand compressor with Moisture Trap & Pressure Gauge for RM370 but there's catch.. no warranty sad.gif

so if anything happen during ur usage.. RM3xx burn laa.. sad.gif

so anyone else here in the northern region might have any idea on where we can find a decent compressor with at least the Moisture Trap & Pressure Gauge and come with at least some warranty.. please share here..

looking for Sparmax as well but i dunno if any shop in Penang/Kedah sell such brand...

thanks guys

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ezCISS,

Nice survey on the AB set! I am actually looking for a set too. tongue.gif Btw are u aiming for the set in Venus Art? Do they come with any warranty with it?

Thanks in advance.

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last week didn't go,had some things to do,but this week i will.btw,ezCISS,did VA sell the #11 X-Acto Blades in 100blades pack???
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Jul 27 2006, 02:30 PM)
Nice survey on the AB set! I am actually looking for a set too. tongue.gif Btw are u aiming for the set in Venus Art? Do they come with any warranty with it?
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At the moment aiming for fund allocation 1st.. so many priorities sad.gif Hobby stuff comes last. Given the current sellection between VA & Daisheng, when come buying time I'll restudy the full package & service they both can offer, best shop wins lah.. If no warranty I wont buy man, thats a piston motor in there wor!

At the moment I'm partial to VA lah, uncle very helpful, Daisheng ppl like very LCLY smoking in the shop oni.. look at ppl like got no $$ to buy, dun wan layan. Thats my RM1 Coin opinion lah (like DC in BB plaza fella.. some of you know what i'm talking about)


QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 27 2006, 03:33 PM)
last week didn't go,had some things to do,but this week i will.btw,ezCISS,did VA sell the #11 X-Acto Blades in 100blades pack???
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Alamak.. duno leh.. but I know got #11 baldes as posted HERE call uncle 1st if you want to prepare the necessary $$$ before going there lah, I posted his No. liao mah HERE. Even if it's in pack of 10 blades, buy 10 packs solve problem already. BTW - ACE Hardware shop also selling the blades!

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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 27 2006, 07:04 PM)
At the moment aiming for fund allocation 1st.. so many priorities  sad.gif Hobby stuff comes last.  Given the current sellection between VA & Daisheng, when come buying time I'll restudy the full package & service they both can offer, best shop wins lah.. If no warranty I wont buy man, thats a piston motor in there wor!

At the moment I'm partial to VA lah, uncle very helpful, Daisheng ppl like very LCLY smoking in the shop oni.. look at ppl like got no $$ to buy, dun wan layan. Thats my RM1 Coin opinion lah (like DC in BB plaza fella.. some of you know what i'm talking about)
Alamak.. duno leh.. but I know got #11 baldes as posted HERE call uncle 1st if you want to prepare the necessary $$$ before going there lah, I posted his No. liao mah HERE.  Even if it's in pack of 10 blades, buy 10 packs solve problem already.  BTW - ACE Hardware shop also selling the blades!
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i noe ACE sells them.but when i went,they said no stock,then i ask to order,they said can.Now like 3 months not even a phone call from them yet vmad.gif btw,i'm sure the compressor have some sort of warranty.btw,izzit the name of the other airbrush that u post is Olympus???coz i've heard 2-3 users of it n the AB had served them well for over 5 years shocking.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 27 2006, 07:20 PM)
i noe ACE sells them.but when i went,they said no stock,then i ask to order,they said can.Now like 3 months not even a phone call from them yet  vmad.gif  btw,i'm sure the compressor have some sort of warranty.btw,izzit the name of the other airbrush that u post is Olympus???coz i've heard 2-3 users of it n the AB had served them well for over 5 years  shocking.gif  rclxms.gif
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ACE at my place here got wor.. but since you going VA.. "tar-pau" one go lah. Yerp, Olympus.. didnt research that brand yet though.

Everyday I've been researching, and the conclusion is "Maintenance" ! Clean, Clean and Clean & it will last. Also, never use paint straight from the bottle, always "thinner" it. Even if it Teflon needle, I dont see a point as we may have to use sharpening stone to "fix" it anyways. In the end, I may end up buying a cheepo China AB instead to save RM100 plus. Reality check, models kit painting only.. somemore no "kung-fu" to paint those super eyepopping freehand graphic designs tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Jul 27 2006, 07:33 PM)
ACE at my place here got wor.. but since you going VA.. "tar-pau" one go lah.  Yerp, Olympus.. didnt research that brand yet though.

Everyday I've been researching, and the conclusion is "Maintenance" !  Clean, Clean and Clean & it will last.  Also, never use paint straight from the bottle, always "thinner" it.  Even if it Teflon needle, I dont see a point as we may have to use sharpening stone to "fix" it anyways.  In the end, I may end up buying a cheepo China AB instead to save RM100 plus.  Reality check, models kit painting only.. somemore no "kung-fu" to paint those super eyepopping freehand graphic designs  tongue.gif
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yup.clean and it will last.but the cheaper ones have tendency to clog the paint.but i think the sparmax n olympus is a bit better since they're quite well known.in the case of thinning the paint,i donnoe,but for RC,the paints are designed to be shot straight out of the bottle.no need thinning,unless the nozzle opening is like 0.2mm like that(like tamiya's AB)
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the uncle said that if i buy the compressor with tank(picture 3&4) n the airbrush (picture 2),i'll only need to pay Rm 860 drool.gif i really liked the Olympos AB because it is a side feed airbrush(meaning that the 'cup' where u put the paint is at the side,thus enabling me to see my work better) and also 3 types of paint cups is included,small,medium and large.All in all,i'm very satisfied n now can study for PMR more peacefully.Can't wait till my exam is over rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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Happy Day 4 U eh? Well with your mind at ease.. Do well in the next few months to go and U will be set!

Didnt hop to DaiSheng to see your paints?
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Happy Day 4 U eh?  Well with your mind at ease.. Do well in the next few months to go and U will be set!

Didnt hop to DaiSheng to see your paints?
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lol yeah very happy rclxm9.gif .i went to DaiSheng,but dun see any paints ??? blink.gif blink.gif i thought the paint is the same place where they put the compressor n AB right???
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.....i thought the paint is the same place where they put the compressor n AB right???
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Aiyaaa... at the back of the shop, near the RC stuff and pintu belakang.. Yerp.. it's a bit sorok, but 2 full trays of paint to choose from.
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Aiyaaa... at the back of the shop, near the RC stuff and pintu belakang.. Yerp.. it's a bit sorok, but 2 full trays of paint to choose from.
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.......btw,what size is the bottle of the tamiya paints???
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Just came back frm Petaling Street.Managed to find Venus Art after some 30 minutes of searching  sweat.gif .Snapped a few pics while there.As ezCISS said,the uncle there very helpful  notworthy.gif .
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the uncle said that if i buy the compressor with tank(picture 3&4) n the airbrush (picture 2),i'll only need to pay Rm 860  drool.gif  i really liked the Olympos AB because it is a side feed airbrush(meaning that the 'cup' where u put the paint is at the side,thus enabling me to see my work better) and also 3 types of paint cups is included,small,medium and large.All in all,i'm very satisfied n now can study for PMR more peacefully.Can't wait till my exam is over  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Hi, guys. Just found out this thread. Don't no still got people play this hobby and got shop selling this AB and compressor. And suprise me still got this olympus AB selling around. The compressor in the picture look like piston type. Is it very noisy one?
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.., this olympus AB selling around. The compressor in the picture look like piston type. Is it very noisy one?
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I think is "olympos" Duno lah.. very hard to find the manufacturers website. "Chap-lap" already?

I didn't test the Compressor.. ntc3freak did you give it a go? Word around the net says it quite silent, I only beleive when i hear it with my own ears whistling.gif
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I think is "olympos"  Duno lah.. very hard to find the manufacturers website. "Chap-lap" already?

I didn't test the Compressor.. ntc3freak did you give it a go?  Word around the net says it quite silent, I only beleive when i hear it with my own ears  whistling.gif
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nope didn't checked.yup it should be quite silent.shouldn't be noisy like those industrial ones lar or the large ones u find at the hardware shop.But i think at most the noise is 50decibels.Should be less than that.I'll test it when i got the money laugh.gif
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eh..guy do you think is a good idea to connect a air brush to a industrial use compressor ah.. I mean the one they use in motorcycle shop, but smaller. unsure.gif
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eh..guy do you think is a good idea to connect a air brush to a industrial use compressor ah.. I mean the one they use in motorcycle shop, but smaller.  unsure.gif
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Technically it's possible as long as you can control the PSI.  Practically be prepared to have the boys in blue knocking on your door for "distubing the peace"  wink.gif
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How much PSI needed for the air brush to work? Can give some info.. notworthy.gif search the web but got nothing on this. sweat.gif
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How much PSI needed for the air brush to work? Can give some info.. notworthy.gif search the web but got nothing on this.  sweat.gif
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anywhere from 10-45.This is the mostly used range.Dun see why u would need to set the pressure higher.If ur pressure is high,u'll risk blowing out the air hose or even the airbrush.Anyways,enjoy!!!
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anywhere from 10-45.This is the mostly used range.Dun see why u would need to set the pressure higher.If ur pressure is high,u'll risk blowing out the air hose or even the airbrush.Anyways,enjoy!!!
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Thank you for the info, will check my local hardware store for adjustable pressure compressor, now the only problem is to figure out how to connect air brush to the compressor. tongue.gif
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Thank you for the info, will check my local hardware store for adjustable pressure compressor, now the only problem is to figure out how to connect air brush to the compressor.  tongue.gif
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hmm that might be a bit tricky.maybe u can go to Venus Art in Petaling Street and ask what is needed to connect the airbrush to the compressor.They might be able to help.

btw,here's some info i got from rctech forum:

Airbrush hoses are 1/4" inch fittings.
Most Air equipment is 1/4" inch as well.
Some are more heavy duty which are 3/8 inch fittings.
This is easy to fix as they sell couplers to go from 1/4" to 3/8".
These literally only cost like $1.00US ($1.40AUD) at any Hardware Store.

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if the compressor ia s piston type, it is quite noisy. I ve a compressor using rotary type (use in freeze). Very quiet. Can work in late night also. Brought it 16yrs ago. still run perfectly.

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Thank you for the info, will check my local hardware store for adjustable pressure compressor, now the only problem is to figure out how to connect air brush to the compressor.  tongue.gif
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use an airhose size 4mm. get the fitting joint that just plug the hose in. No need srew in. But you ve to search for it. If you in KL/PJ, I can tell you where to buy. I m in this engineering industry. Deal alot with this air thing.
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... If you in KL/PJ, I can tell you where to buy...
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Can you please share with us where to get the "good stuff", I've done my best to my knowledge of KL shops already

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if the compressor ia s piston type, it is quite noisy. I ve a compressor using rotary type (use in freeze). Very quiet. Can work in late night also. Brought it 16yrs ago. still run perfectly.
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Can you please share with us where to get the "good stuff", I've done my best to my knowledge of KL shops already

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It's a jpn company. Call SMC pneumatic. Locate at shah alam hitech park. (digi main office) You must ve some knowledge and parts model to order the thing. Cause they ve thousand of parts. If you just tell them this or that, they don't understand. Here example the fitting. If you buy the hose, it come in a roll which is 5m, 10m and 100m. The hose is soft (polyurethane) and it is light compare rubber hose.
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Thank you for the info, will check my local hardware store for adjustable pressure compressor, now the only problem is to figure out how to connect air brush to the compressor.  tongue.gif
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Hmmm....this i ca nhelp.....snap a pic of your compressor, especially on the hose area....then go to jalan kuchai lama frm old klang road....

when u on the way up a step hill road, look at the shop on your left and u can c a shop name "kinki"...

they sell industrial use spray gun, compressor, adjustable regulater bla bla bla.....

they will have the stuff u looking for....roughly rm130+ for the regulater, with moisture trap also.....

dun ask for phone coz i dun hav
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Hmmm....this i ca nhelp.....snap a pic of your compressor, especially on the hose area....then go to jalan kuchai lama frm old klang road....

when u on the way up a step hill road, look at the shop on your left and u can c a shop name "kinki"...

they sell industrial use spray gun, compressor, adjustable regulater bla bla bla.....

they will have the stuff u looking for....roughly rm130+ for the regulater, with moisture trap also.....

dun ask for phone coz i dun hav
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Thanks for the pointer.. I roughly know where that shop is. I will give it a scounting when the time come.

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I've not seen any from the places I've been to in KL. I suggest you try ebay. I can see a variety of Badger items there. I also found a reputable Iwata seller there for price comparison. Hahah.. who knows, I migh end up ordering off ebay if it's cheaper.
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I've been looking for "Isopropyl alcohol" = rubbing alcohol for ages! I cant seem to find it locally though.

BUT all is not lost. The next alternative is "Surgical Spirit" found very very easily in any Pharmacy. Though the chemically composition is slightly different (Ethanol if not mistaken) in "theory" it should surfice.

Err.. the touching portion I'm not sure lah sweat.gif BUT know that it is a type of alcohol.
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What alcohol is that? You need it for diluting? Just get the nail cleaning alcohol. that will do the job. Maybe you ve to ask the ulama. But I thing, if you get inject by doc before, I tink the doc got clean up your skin using alcohol before stick the needle to you. Is that count?
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i m interesting in this...but can i know how hard is it to spray air brush? is the paint using normal automotive paint bought from paint supply or any other paint? erm...
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What alcohol is that? You need it for diluting? Just get the nail cleaning alcohol. that will do the job. ..
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i m interesting in this...but can i know how hard is it to spray air brush? is the paint using normal automotive paint bought from paint supply or any other paint? erm...
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i know how to paint by using spraying can..but i think i can learn how to spray air brush quit fast...btw, how much is the normal kit cost? erm...kinda ex for me to play play with it le
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Consider it as poor mans thinner for model kits.  I think nail cleaning alcohol is migh melt the models kits  blush.gif
Nope, It won't melt the plastic. Thinner yes. I use alot to clean the air brush and wipe out the paint on the model. Sometime I use thinner to clean the air brush also but not good for the seal.
For tamiya paint, just water will do or buy thier thinner. For airfix and others emulsion paint, I just use thier thinner.
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I've been looking for an airbrush also.

Just checked out VenusArt and Nanyang a few weeks ago. Actually had decided on buying from VenusArt, but after I withdraw money, the shop was already closed...

Maybe a good thing... save me from impulse buy tongue.gif

At the same time, I also heard that there's a big Arts supplies store called ArtsFriends at UE3. Heard from friends who buy pottery clay and paints from there. Supposedly much cheaper stuff than elsewhere. This is a chain from S'pore, where they've got 2 stores at BrasBasah and Takashimaya... So, maybe they are the Carrefour of arts stuff.

Just asking if anyone knows that area, and have seen whether they've got airbrushes & compressors or not?

Eitherway, I'll probably want to check out UE3 first before going back to Venus Art again.


Nanyang has Japan made Holbien ABs only.
Their compressor is huge, rm780, no moisture trap, and boss doesn't know specs. Last unit there. So, highly uninterested. shakehead.gif

VenusArt is better for compressors. Cheapest one I've seen so far. With moisture trap and pressure gauge etc. The boss keeps recommending the one with the air-tank.

The one with no airtank is rm4xx. But must switch off after 25-30min. Else will overheat and break. And there's no warranty.

The one with airtank is rm180 more expensive. Has auto-off. When airtank is full, it doesn't run continuously. So, can use longer. Less likely to breakdown. No need to worry that you'll forget.

But am still wondering whether can just get a small motorbike compressor and use it. Minimal investment. And later, if lose interest to do AB, can still use it to open motorcycle garage. laugh.gif


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Just checked out ArtFriend yesterday.

Plenty of paints, inks, paper, wood, brassrods, stencils, brushes etc etc...

Also a whole range of Badger airbrushes.

All the double action Badger ABs selling for 488.

But there's a 10%discount after paying rm10 for membership.

Also Badger compressed air canisters, small rm36, large rm56.
The large one, from what a guy told me, is enough for painting 3 modelling kits.

There's also a selection of 'cheap'-er Badger single actions with plastic handles.

There are a few boxsets, small air can, plastic singleaction AB, hose, connectors, regulator etc... for 300+

But I still find these boxsets expensive. Cos in S'pore, I found a few taiwan imitations of the exact same design going for sgd58, without the small air can.

The air compressors are expensive. The ones with moisture trap etc going for 1200+.

Best option so far is still Venus Art...
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Thanks for sharing your "survelance" info... that will save me the trouble of going to UE3 rclxms.gif

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Its been a long many years since i touched an airbrush...7-8 years ady
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Now since my Gundam madness is back, would like to get a compressor...full spec wan. Any idea where to get the best price ? Moisture trap, silencer, storage tank...

Iwata airbrush is damn pricey ler...how bad is the maintenance like ? A lot of parts to clean or not ? smile.gif
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Its been a long many years since i touched an airbrush...7-8 years ady
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Now since my Gundam madness is back, would like to get a compressor...full spec wan. Any idea where to get the best price ? Moisture trap, silencer, storage tank...

Iwata airbrush is damn pricey ler...how bad is the maintenance like ? A lot of parts to clean or not ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ratatosk @ Aug 4 2006, 09:30 AM)
Just checked out ArtFriend yesterday.

Plenty of paints, inks, paper, wood, brassrods, stencils, brushes etc etc...

Also a whole range of Badger airbrushes.

All the double action Badger ABs selling for 488.

But there's a 10%discount after paying rm10 for membership.

Also Badger compressed air canisters, small rm36, large rm56.
The large one, from what a guy told me, is enough for painting 3 modelling kits.

There's also a selection of 'cheap'-er Badger single actions with plastic handles.

There are a few boxsets, small air can, plastic singleaction AB, hose, connectors, regulator etc... for 300+

But I still find these boxsets expensive. Cos in S'pore, I found a few taiwan imitations of the exact same design going for sgd58, without the small air can.

The air compressors are expensive. The ones with moisture trap etc going for 1200+.

Best option so far is still Venus Art...
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shocking.gif Whole car?  It's technically possible, but will take forever to complete if you use the hobby version.  Best that you look for the industrial type.
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some question
what is the best way to avoid spiderweb when airbrushing?

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if u guys not in the rush, i'll be bringin in some taiwan make airbrush n compressor.....

will update by mid or end of the month
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if u guys not in the rush, i'll be bringin in some taiwan make airbrush n compressor.....

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once it's ready, i'll post up my webstore for u guys to view it.....other than airbrush, other modeling tools and gundam as well.....
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Went to Venus Art the other day and i am very interested with the AB set. Anyone know whether the uncle there gives out discount?

Oo btw i also know this nice guy in another forum that is selling an AB set familiar to the one from Venus Art but a bit cheaper. If you are interested u can pm me and i will give u the contact.


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Is there any airbrush that is maintenance free? Something like without the needle. A long time ago, I ve a friend using a airbrush without the needle. I don't no what brand is it. It only need to change the nozzle for different wide spray.

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 5 2006, 11:20 PM)
...what is the best way to avoid spiderweb when airbrushing?
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1. Moisture trap
2. Clean surface
3. AB light layers (dont overspray)


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....Anyone know whether the uncle there gives out discount?

...another forum that is selling an AB set familiar to the one from Venus Art ...
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Yes - Can negotiate with uncle

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Is there any airbrush that is maintenance free?
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I havent seen needle-less type.. even though, it still cant be 100% maintenance free as you have to keep cleaning the AB after every use
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there is such AB which u can just change the noozle...but it's not maintaince free la...

the needle is keep inside the AB, when cleaning, u cant actually clean it throughly, so when stuck...it's bye bye...dun need to maintain...

maintaince free lo....muahahahaha
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btw, those AB is by aztek....
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Aug 6 2006, 10:26 PM)
there is such AB which u can just change the noozle...but it's not maintaince free la...

the needle is keep inside the AB, when cleaning, u cant actually clean it throughly, so when stuck...it's bye bye...dun need to maintain...

maintaince free lo....muahahahaha
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Finally bought from VenusArt.

Still find their compressor with airtank, regulator, pressure gauge, (and moisture trap built inside the airtank, supposedly...) is the best value. rm680 on the sticker. Uncle let me have for 600rm.

Plus an sparmax 0.3mm dual-action AB, cheapest he has... 210rm. (sticker 238).

Comes with hose and necessary connectors. Test run there. Cash and carry. If use creditcard, he can't give much discount.

No warranty though... But the compressor looks sturdy enough.

Played around with it last night. Compressor is quite silent. And only switches on every few minutes when airtank pressure falls. Spent the night spraying newspaper with dilute ink to get the hang of AB use.


Just to check with more experienced artists here...

Are there paints that I should avoid using with AB? Like thinner based paints, or paint pigments with larger pigment particles.... or how about using with primer? Will these things spoil the brush?

Just to be safe... i'll only be using water-soluble acrylic paints with my expensive AB. Maybe one day go singapore grab a cheap AB to play play with funny paints...

There's a Taiwan-made Badger knockoff, set of plastic single action AB, siphon feed, air-can adapter/regulator, hoses.... for sgd16. But the spray is as precise as a mini spray gun.
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actually what is dual action AB?

and at the back of the AB gun..the screw thingy..what izzit for?
what is the effect if you turn it clockwise and anti clockwise?

and after we clean the pain using thinner and spray out clear..we can still clean it with normal water rite..cause i usually just clean it with model thinner after every color change

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 7 2006, 12:09 PM)
actually what is dual action AB?

and at the back of the AB gun..the screw thingy..what izzit for?
what is the effect if you turn it clockwise and anti clockwise?

and after we clean the pain using thinner and spray out clear..we can still clean it with normal water rite..cause i usually just clean it with model thinner after every color change
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dual action vs single action :
http://www.howtoairbrush.com/airbrushs.htm <<< pretty good
lazy to summarize tongue.gif


screw thingy behind ab ?? ... set the amount of paint .....how to say aa .... it actually lock the trigger to certain amount of paint (how far u pull the trigger)
hope can understand


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http://www.testors.com/hobbyist_guides.asp

Very nice intro...
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not really airbrush question..but its related

about model paint..can we use mr.hobby thinner to thin tamiya acrylic paint?
i know tamiiya acrylic is water base..but can we actually thin it with water?
i still need to spend RM40 for tamiya acrylic thinner
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Aug 9 2006, 09:27 AM)
not really airbrush question..but its related

about model paint..can we use mr.hobby thinner to thin tamiya acrylic paint?
i know tamiiya acrylic is water base..but can we actually thin it with water?
i still need to spend RM40 for tamiya acrylic thinner
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btw,acrylic is water based meh???i thought two totally different things blink.gif if ur paint is water based,like createx,u can use water,but i read windex is better(dunno got this here or not).Other types of paint i think should use paint thinner.

Btw,i reccomend Createx line of paints,haven't find it locally,but u can get the paint sets from bearair.com.It is really good stuff,and generally water based paints(createx is water based) are safe to spray inside ur house,while lacquer,enamel,acrylic(not sure with acrylic) is pretty toxic to spray inside.Btw,in case u asked,createx is the same as Parma's line of Faskolor paints,just that Createx comes in bigger sizes and is cheaper.Createx is good for anything,fabric,metal,lexan,plastic.So u guys might wanna give it a try thumbup.gif
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cause i thought i saw at the tamiya paint label there..they said its water base for their arcylic paint..

that is what i think la..better go check it again
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Arcylic paint is water base. You can mix with water and spray and brush. But if you want to thin up the paint in the bottle better use the tamiya thinner. Cause it will dry out fast and spoil the paint if keep long time. For oil base paint use back the own thinner but use others thinner (buy in hardware shop) to clean your AB. This way would be cheaper and more effective to clean the AB.
For AB car or bike model, recommend to use oil base paint. It would adchive more gloss surface than the arcylic paint. If you use arcylic paint, you have to AB another clear gloss layer. I use most of the arcylic on military model and oil base on car body model.
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acrylics paints basically have 2 types..one is water based and the other is solvent based...

water base is those of gunze sangyo aqueos paints....and tamiya is alcohol based ..since alcohol can can disolve in water, then it can be said water base...but the term is not 100% correct... to replace tamiya thinner, u can use IPA (isopropyl alcohol )...water alone will work but will not get good finishing job...

the other type of acylics paints is solvent based...example gunze Mr Color range...this one is lacquer based acylics..and u have to use mr.thinner to thinned them...household thinner cap kuda belang can be used but no recommended..........


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QUOTE(enJiNer @ Aug 16 2006, 12:43 PM)
acrylics paints basically have 2 types..one is water based and the other is solvent based...

water base is those of gunze sangyo aqueos paints....and tamiya is alcohol based ..since alcohol can can disolve in water, then it can be said water base...but the term is not 100% correct... to replace tamiya thinner, u can use IPA (isopropyl alcohol )...water alone will work but will not get good finishing job...

the other type of acylics paints is solvent based...example gunze Mr Color range...this one is lacquer based acylics..and u have to use mr.thinner to thinned them...household thinner cap kuda belang can be used but no recommended..........
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cap kuda belang thinner can use to clean your airbrush with no problem right?
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who had got the airbrush accessories? i seriously interest with this..and anyone willing to teach me more? like how to do, stuff needed and kind of paint, mixing and etc..maybe a tt?
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^ most of us here got airbrush already i think

but how to show you also la..by using all this text reply here at the forum ar?
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lol this thread is kinda dead.Anyone already with an airbrush please post ur work!!! I'm still eagerly waiting for my PMR to end.Anyone doing airbrushing for business???
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any1 can point me 2 a shop in kl which sells reasonably priced airbrush kits?

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venus art in petaling street.check a few pages back for intructions to go there
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There is one more company that got sale AB and compressor. Try this Penline opposite KL plaza. Got one roll of shop lot. I m not sure still there or not. Last I heard is shift to first floor and they got another branch. ( not sure where)
My compressor and AB is brought from there many many years. Thier compressor is damn good and super silent.
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no one talking bout dis oredi ah???so anyone got any 'masterpiece' to show???
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 20 2006, 11:05 AM)
There is one more company that got sale AB and compressor. Try this Penline opposite KL plaza...
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I just checked the yellopages, seems to be still there. Thanks for sharing.

QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Sep 2 2006, 01:31 PM)
no one talking bout dis oredi ah???so anyone got any 'masterpiece' to show???
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Just bought the last airbrush set from graffitti toys.
Still going through faq ... aiih the manual is in chinese.

Wonder anyone got translations of it ... =.=|
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hi i juz wanna buy a compressor and airbrush.So the sparmax brand gd? if for paint gundam without air tank compressor izzit enuff fot it?coz i skad later burn.. sad.gif
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^ im using sparmax compressor right now..the mini one..
quite good so far..no problem..been using it for 3 months now..
use it for only 15min or less then rest la..sure can last long one the thing.
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Sep 20 2006, 10:41 AM)
^ im using sparmax compressor right now..the mini one..
quite good so far..no problem..been using it for 3 months now..
use it for only 15min or less then rest la..sure can last long one the thing.
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How is the noise and vibration.. can airbrush at night?
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noise not that loud..i think yes..can do use it at night without disturbing people..but dont use it when people sleeping la.

its vibrate of cause..but not till moving around..its already heavy enough
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Just curious, how durable is the mini compressors.
Someone says by the 7th project, the compressor will kong.

Is that true? i thought compressors are pretty durabale things.
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me almost 20th or maybe 22th project already with my mini compressor..
if you take good care of it..it will last long one la..the same with your airbrush..no problem with mine so far..always use less then 15min per session..then rest 15min..

btw..taking care of airbrush and cleaning them are very pain is the ass..very damn hard..but it worth it cause it will last longer with proper caring
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hmm vinc454 how much u buy for the mini compressor?
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about RM4XX
forgot the actual price..need to go back check the receipt..hehe
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Sep 20 2006, 01:34 PM)
me almost 20th or maybe 22th project already with my mini compressor..
if you take good care of it..it will last long one la..the same with your airbrush..no problem with mine so far..always use less then 15min per session..then rest 15min..

btw..taking care of airbrush and cleaning them are very pain is the ass..very damn hard..but it worth it cause it will last longer with proper caring
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Why take that long time to cool down the compressor? Is it go extreme hot? Wow, like this airbrushing, will take sometime to finish the job.
If you want airbrush 24hr nonstop, get the rotary compressor. It work great and run silently in the night. But I guess it hard to find now.
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i suppose vincC454's compressor is the one without the tank???coz the price is only 4xx
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hey any1 using iwata airbrush here? i heard sum ppl say it spray very smooth compare to other brand izzit true?
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^ and very expensive too
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think the cheaper alternative in getting iwata is either a bulk buy or getting it from ebay. sad.gif

anybody doing a bulk buy?
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QUOTE(chanti-sama @ Sep 25 2006, 05:54 PM)
think the cheaper alternative in getting iwata is either a bulk buy or getting it from ebay. sad.gif

anybody doing a bulk  buy?
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the chances of that happening is as thin as a paper IMO.Not many people like to airbrush,and not many willing to fork out that ammount of money for an Iwata.I know i would though laugh.gif
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do u guys noe badger brand better or iwata brand better?
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do u guys noe badger brand better or iwata brand better?
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of course iwata lah.But badger not bad for larger works,not so good for detailed works.Anyway,u'll have a hard time finding these two in our country sweat.gif
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so which of the iwata series is gd for spray gundam?
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a lil bit noob question does iwata airbrush can connect to the sparmax compressor?
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a lil bit noob question does iwata airbrush can connect to the sparmax compressor?
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Anything that can blow an air. biggrin.gif By the way, how does it look this iwata AB? I only know the big one that sell in hardware shop. I ve use this big iwata AB many years. But don't know it got manufacturing hobby type.
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so which of the iwata series is gd for spray gundam?
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As a rule of thumb,any Iwata is a good Iwata.I think the Iwata HP-CS should fit the bill nicely.But have to order from overseas and it'll burn ur wallet.If ur not experienced in airbrush,i reccomend getting like Sparmax Airbrush and learn to use it first.Once ur good with it,then go ahead n buy an iwata.My 2 sen oni.Like if ur gonna do just gundams,then an Iwata is a bit overkill.So get a Sparmax first then go on from there.

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Anything that can blow an air. biggrin.gif By the way, how does it look this iwata AB? I only know the big one that sell in hardware shop. I ve use this big iwata AB many years. But don't know it got manufacturing hobby type.
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Click here.Just click on any of the series


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Thanks ntc3freak. Really expensive this iwata. The aztek look more value for money. One AB can tackle all size. And the price reasonable.
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QUOTE(ezCISS @ Sep 8 2006, 02:13 AM)
I just checked the yellopages, seems to be still there. Thanks for sharing.
Waiting for Ratatosk for his feedback mah  wink.gif
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Your thumbup.gif purchase from VA biggrin.gif

Silent for midnight airbrushing.. performance.. etc.. ?? rclxms.gif
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I'm a n00b with airbrushing... so don't really know what's the standard to compare with.

But the rm600 compressor with airtank from VA is good enough for me. Quiet enough to use at night.

With the airtank and the auto-off... the compressor only turns on once every few minutes when you're using. It seems to handle pressure up to 60+ psi pretty well.

Don't notice any pulsing.

Other than this... I can't really give much opinion abt it. I think most of the problems I'm experiencing is cos of the paint... Not enough experience to know how to mix paint properly and know what pressure setting to use.

Still lots of trial and error. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 10 2006, 02:51 PM)
Thanks ntc3freak. Really expensive this iwata. The aztek look more value for money. One AB can tackle all size. And the price reasonable.
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BIG BIG NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I hope u have not ordered or anything yet,but i've heard nothing but bad stuff for the Aztek.At first,i also drooled at the quick change nozzles,bla bla bla,then i read people complain can't spray well,the nozzles too flimsy,not worth it.I donnoe,should look for other airbrush.Just my airbrush

QUOTE(Ratatosk @ Oct 27 2006, 10:26 PM)
I'm a n00b with airbrushing... so don't really know what's the standard to compare with.

But the rm600 compressor with airtank from VA is good enough for me. Quiet enough to use at night.

With the airtank and the auto-off... the compressor only turns on once every few minutes when you're using. It seems to handle pressure up to 60+ psi pretty well.

Don't notice any pulsing.

Other than this... I can't really give much opinion abt it. I think most of the problems I'm experiencing is cos of the paint... Not enough experience to know how to mix paint properly and know what pressure setting to use.

Still lots of trial and error. smile.gif
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I'm glad ur happy with it.As a matter of fact,VA has just increased(i think) the price for the AB and compressors.My friend called the other day and the uncle said the price has changed,and worst of all,he said come to shop first then i'll tell.About the mixing thing and pressure setting,don't worry,you're not the only one.Everyone have this problem,even the pros.It's just trial and error,like you said.I'm also glad the compressor is silent.

P/S: i wonder why this thread so quiet laugh.gif
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for some info..
time machine at bts selling mr hobby brand AB..along with the compressor..
price im not sure..

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BIG BIG NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I hope u have not ordered or anything yet,but i've heard nothing but bad stuff for the Aztek.At first,i also drooled at the quick change nozzles,bla bla bla,then i read people complain can't spray well,the nozzles too flimsy,not worth it.I donnoe,should look for other airbrush.Just my airbrush
I'm glad ur happy with it.As a matter of fact,VA has just increased(i think) the price for the AB and compressors.My friend called the other day and the uncle said the price has changed,and worst of all,he said come to shop first then i'll tell.About the mixing thing and pressure setting,don't worry,you're not the only one.Everyone have this problem,even the pros.It's just trial and error,like you said.I'm also glad the compressor is silent.

P/S: i wonder why this thread so quiet  laugh.gif
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Thanks ntc3freak. Lucky you have the information about this Aztek. Any AB that is reasonable price?
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Thanks ntc3freak. Lucky you have the information about this Aztek. Any AB that is reasonable price?
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Hmm at the moment,i think should get Sparmax.But there's a good chance i'll get it this weekend.If i do,i'll comment on it.Or u can get Olympos,which is the same with Sparmax(Olympos just rebrand Sparmax airbrush).This two should last you long enough until you want to upgrade to Iwata or anything.That doesn't mean it's not going to last though.As with all things,if u take care of it,it shouldn't fail.And furthermore,VA in Petaling Street sells spare parts for these two ABs.So there shouldn't be a problem.



And BTW,if you guys are planning to do occasional ABing,don't bother getting the more expensive ones like Iwata.It's simply not worth it.If you're doing small businesses like me,then you might wanna get Iwata.It was always my dream to own an Iwata.But i have to wait for a little longer.My 2 cents
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seriously..sparmax is already good enough if you just wanna paint model or other not so serious airbrushing..

i been using it for some times already now..and dont have a problem with it..but of cause..u really need to take care of it la..clean it every single time after you done using it..

and also its better to get a full compressor instead of the mini one..im using the mini one..and sometimes..it can spray out water when you wanna do fine lining..
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seriously..sparmax is already good enough if you just wanna paint model or other not so serious airbrushing..

i been using it for some times already now..and dont have a problem with it..but of cause..u really need to take care of it la..clean it every single time after you done using it..

and also its better to get a full compressor instead of the mini one..im using the mini one..and sometimes..it can spray out water when you wanna do fine lining..
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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Nov 1 2006, 08:39 AM)
seriously..sparmax is already good enough if you just wanna paint model or other not so serious airbrushing..

i been using it for some times already now..and dont have a problem with it..but of cause..u really need to take care of it la..clean it every single time after you done using it..

and also its better to get a full compressor instead of the mini one..im using the mini one..and sometimes..it can spray out water when you wanna do fine lining..
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the water spurting out prob due to overheat if not mistaken ...
experience b4 too .. use long time liao then splatt water ...
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yes..it spray water when too long of using..
even after 15min use then rest..if it still hot a bit..it still can spray water unless you can wait till it really cool down..
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walao weh.Is the mini without the air tank???I'm confused.Coz the one with tank is still technically mini in terms of size
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How come the mini one spits water?

At VA, the two models of Sparmax compressors,
One with airtank, supposedly with moisture trap inside the tank, but can't see, can't prove...

The one without airtank, it comes with moisture trap. Should prevent water spitting, right?

If you've got a compressor with no watertrap... At Art Friend UE3, I saw them selling Badger spareparts. Including a moisture trap. I almost considered buying this moisture trap, then adding it to a big motorbike compressor to use.... tongue.gif
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went to VA yesterday and bloody hell,the price is now 939 for an airbrush n compressor instead of 860 sweat.gif
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I'm selling off my airbrush kit with a ripped off price, you can check my sale thread here. wink.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=363777

bought it for my gunpla but due to work i rarely touch this hobby...used it for only 3 months then this compressor keep in store room and collecting dust.

selling both item for RM500
the handpiece cost me RM150 last time and the compressor alone cost me RM800.

i can see this is kinda ripped off deal. so if you interest, please pm me or sms me or call me.




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Hey guys,my friend and i just bought two airbrush sets 3 days ago.I was very very happy since the wait is finally over.Now waiting for my Createx to arrive from US.Atm using water colours doh.gif


I'm still quite worry about the moisture trap thingy.The uncle said the moisture trap is inside the compressor,but i'm doubtful.I'm using the one with air tank btw.And to make things worst,I don't see moisture trap listed in the parts list of the compressor.Anyone know what will happen if there is no moisture trap???

The compressor is doing fine,it on and off after a few minutes,which can be annoying at first,but gotten used to it already.The noise is very quiet,quite like a fan.And if run for long time(30-1 hour),it gets quite hot,so i put a fan directly in front of it.No problems so far.And not to worry,it has an automatic thermal-shutdown.In a case when it overheats,it automatically shuts down.


Now for the airbrush,nothing much to say.It's pretty good,i donnoe how good since this is my first AB.Mine is gravity feed,so it kinda blocks the vision a bit,but it's not a problem.The chrome plating is fabolous though,i love just looking at it.the spraying is quite predictable,the hardest part of ABing is knowing how much to thin the paint and how much PSI to use.I think that comes with experience and trial and error.Right now i'm practicing doing straight lines on a notebook for 5-6 pages a day.It's getting better and better each day.


And oh,a tip i read about.Always turn the air on first(press down on trigger) and then only pull back for paint,then slowly push forward the trigger for stopping paint,and don't turn off the air until 1-2 seconds.If u stop the paint and air simultaneously,the next time u press the air,it'll splat some paint which might ruin your otherwise excellent work.Good luck guys.
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Did u get it from VA? If you bought ur set from VA i guess we own the same compressor lah! biggrin.gif Well the uncle there said the same thing to me about the moisture trap thingy. I was a little doubtful about that as well. Since the compressor does not has a moisture trap in it, all the compressed water goes into the tank and later if you open the valve at the bottom of the tank, you will see water coming out.

I was freaked out by this because i thought that this will eventually rust the tank inside out so to be safe, i bought a moisture trap and install it myself. The moisture trap is around rm65++ if i am not mistaken.
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Nov 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
Did u get it from VA? If you bought ur set from VA i guess we own the same compressor lah! biggrin.gif Well the uncle there said the same thing to me about the moisture trap thingy. I was a little doubtful about that as well. Since the compressor does not has a moisture trap in it, all the compressed water goes into the tank and later if you open the valve at the bottom of the tank, you will see water coming out.

I was freaked out by this because i thought that this will eventually rust the tank inside out so to be safe, i bought a moisture trap and install it myself. The moisture trap is around rm65++ if i am not mistaken.
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@ eehtsitna,where did you buy the moisture trap???Yeah,when open the valve at the bottom,can feel a bit watery but very chilly laugh.gif any difference when u install the moisture trap and before you install???Does it come with pressure regulator??

@jy14,VA stands for Venus Art,it's in Petaling Street.Quite hard to instruct you to go.All i know is from the Pasar Seni LRT station,walk straight when u see the petaling street 'roof'(blue in colour),turn right in the junction then walk straight when u see the VA sign at the top of the shop.It's yellow in colour.Hope that helps
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Nov 24 2006, 09:04 AM)
Did u get it from VA? If you bought ur set from VA i guess we own the same compressor lah! biggrin.gif Well the uncle there said the same thing to me about the moisture trap thingy. I was a little doubtful about that as well. Since the compressor does not has a moisture trap in it, all the compressed water goes into the tank and later if you open the valve at the bottom of the tank, you will see water coming out.

I was freaked out by this because i thought that this will eventually rust the tank inside out so to be safe, i bought a moisture trap and install it myself. The moisture trap is around rm65++ if i am not mistaken.
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how u install the moisture trap? Wat is it like? A tube with a lot of silica gel inside?
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Sorry for the late reply guys! tongue.gif Too bad i do not know the exact location of the shop that sells the moisture trap. A friend of mine help me to get it. If you are interested to get one, I can ask get the address from my friend.

And regarding the moisture trap. No it does not include a pressure regulator. Infact you do not need one since the one already install on the compressor is more than enough. And there are not any silica gel too. tongue.gif The moisture trap works exactly like the name. It has a chamber that traps water in it. If you know how to handle a spanner you will have no problem installing the trap. biggrin.gif

Hope this help.

Ps: I will try to post a pic of the moisture trap once i found it in my pc.
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QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Nov 26 2006, 12:02 AM)
Sorry for the late reply guys! tongue.gif Too bad i do not know the exact location of the shop that sells the moisture trap. A friend of mine help me to get it. If you are interested to get one, I can ask get the address from my friend.

And regarding the moisture trap. No it does not include a pressure regulator. Infact you do not need one since the one already install on the compressor is more than enough. And there are not any silica gel too. tongue.gif The moisture trap works exactly like the name. It has a chamber that traps water in it. If you know how to handle a spanner you will have no problem installing the trap. biggrin.gif

Hope this help.

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Mine compressor does not have a moisture trap. It will start to have water coming out of the AB when i used it for a whole day, usually because the tank water level is too high in the tank.
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eheheh...

as for moisture trap... i'm also looking for one.. and eehtsitna is right abt the moisture trap... i'm also looking for that didnt use the regulator on top since my compressor already got a regulator... smile.gif

so far no luck... my local hardware store didnt have the trap i require.. most of the either very expensive.... (RM90 for the one without regulator) or didnt have the right connector to it...

oh i just acquire my compressor last weekend..


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Btw guys,now i actually do think the compressor has a moisture trap already.If u see beside the tank,it has some sort of valve,and it looks very similar to any moisture trap.And as with moisture trap,the moisture needs to be drained out,and it works in a similar fashion as the one at the bottom of the tank.Hmmmm,maybe the uncle is right after all.What do u guys think???


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Hi im new here im lookin for ppl to perform some minor touch up on my n80 using air brush can any1 here recommend some shop which i can go to? Thx n cheers!
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Btw guys,now i actually do think the compressor has a moisture trap already.If u see beside the tank,it has some sort of valve,and it looks very similar to any moisture trap.And as with moisture trap,the moisture needs to be drained out,and it works in a similar fashion as the one at the bottom of the tank.Hmmmm,maybe the uncle is right after all.What do u guys think???
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Maybe just a regulator to control the air pressure. The moisture trap that you show is not 100% effective. It depend very much on humid and air temperature.
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care to explain more???And what do u mean by this 'Maybe just a regulator to control the air pressure' ???I noe the regulator on the moisture trap is to control PSI,but somehow i think ur talking about something else
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now all people pening already .. rclxub.gif
i google n see moisture trap pic all like that one ....

if use the compressor then u will see water droplets around the clear glass ..
later there will be water in it ..
i think thats a moisture trap ....

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now all people pening already .. rclxub.gif
i google n see moisture trap pic all like that one ....

if  use the compressor then u will see water droplets around the clear glass ..
later there will be water in it ..
i think thats a moisture trap ....
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yup thats it.That's what moisture trap do.What compressor u using???
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care to explain more???And what do u mean by this 'Maybe just a regulator to control the air pressure' ???I noe the regulator on the moisture trap is to control PSI,but somehow i think ur talking about something else
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You said "Btw guys,now i actually do think the compressor has a moisture trap already". So I think " Maybe". Cause my compressor didn't come with a moisture trap and got to buy one myself. By the way, the actual name for this moisture trap is air filter regulator. smile.gif
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Which one is the air filter regulator???the pic i posted or the one in my compressor???I'm still waiting for someone with the same compressor as me who have attached a moisture trap and if there is a difference.
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i use sumthing like this .. sparmax

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everything look same ..
but mine dun have the heatsink fin ...


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mine looks like that,but with an air tank.And from what i read,if u use that compressor n u still spray water,it's because the motor is overheating.Btw,what do u use ur airbrush for???
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mine looks like that,but with an air tank.And from what i read,if u use that compressor n u still spray water,it's because the motor is overheating.Btw,what do u use ur airbrush for???
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it will splatt out water if use too long (overheating) last time i buy the uncle told me .. experience it many times ... i think the time limit around 20 minutes... rclxub.gif
kinda irritating too ... dmg my work also
will change compressor if got $$ .... other than that no prob ... luv it ..

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Which one is the air filter regulator???the pic i posted or the one in my compressor???I'm still waiting for someone with the same compressor as me who have attached a moisture trap and if there is a difference.
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The picture you are showing is call "air filter regulator". (Or what you guys call as "moisture trap").
Here is the example. This is my compressor with the air filter regulator and the dryer (membrane air dryer). The air filter regulator(moisture trap) is the same with your one. smile.gif

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it will splatt out water if use too long (overheating) last time i buy the uncle told me .. experience it many times ... i think the time limit around 20 minutes...  rclxub.gif
kinda irritating too ... dmg my work also
will change compressor if got $$  .... other than that no prob ... luv it ..

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I think this kind of compressor is quite noisy. It won't stop running till you switch off. It will heat up very fast and spray quite alot of water. If you technical enough, you can modify by putting a tank, on/off air switch and an air filter regulator. Below the tank weld a socket and put a valve where you can drain the water regulary. That will solve the problem and get a smooth air flow. But not the noise. tongue.gif
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what is the 'dryer' for????
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This dryer is to further filter out the water completly. Just the air filter regulator won't be enough to filter out the water when the air temperature head up. Inside dryer is content chemical. The actual name is "Membrane Air Dryer".
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This dryer is to further filter out the water completly. Just the air filter regulator won't be enough to filter out the water when the air temperature head up. Inside dryer is content chemical. The actual name is "Membrane Air Dryer".
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oh i c.But never see people use b4?? rclxub.gif
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NBTD laugh.gif Some pics of my Sparmax Compressor and Airbrush.Both of them working like a charm thumbup.gif The only annoying thing about the compressor is that it turns on quite often,but i've gotten used to it.I never notice it now laugh.gif


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NBTD laugh.gif Some pics of my Sparmax Compressor and Airbrush.Both of them working like a charm thumbup.gif The only annoying thing about the compressor is that it turns on quite often,but i've gotten used to it.I never notice it now laugh.gif
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ntc3freak, if you want to reduce the turn on quite often, they is a way. If your compressor ve a pressure switch which ve a indicator how much pressure you want before the compressor cut off.( I guess sure ve) Try to increase the pressure abit. But don't too much. Check your compressor max pressure spec. Otherwise your compressor cannot take it. And your compressor won't turn on quite often cause it take sometime to reduce to the 'on' pressure.
From the picture, I can see that your compressor don't ve the moitsure trap. Just an air regulator. So you got to put in one.

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LOL i cant understand the first part sweat.gif that's why la,i oso thought don have, but the uncle said is inside the tank.So far,no signs of moisture appearing.
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LOL i cant understand the first part sweat.gif that's why la,i oso thought don have, but the uncle said is inside the tank.So far,no signs of moisture appearing.
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What the uncle mean is, using the tank as a moisture trap and drain out the water from the vavle below. Comapre the moisture trap early you post with the tank and the regulator of the compressor. It is similar function.
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ntc3freak, how much u bought for the whole set? How is the noise of the compressor?
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ntc3freak, how much u bought for the whole set? How is the noise of the compressor?
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Hey guys. Im a beginner for airbrush. I also have that Sparmax compressor with Water trap but Without that BIG BLACK THING under it (wat is tat by the way)

And my compressor don have autoshutdown and auto On.. like u guys discuss here. Why? Everytime i use i have to On it. One thing i dislike about the Compressor is...it is very noisy.

Anyway. Since im new i need some advice here. I bought this compressor from TAMIYA. but the airbrush itself was given by my friend's brother (graphic student) When i used the airbrush.. it works fine at first...but after sometime..

1) the brush head seems to be starting to clog. Isnt that smooth as when started using.
2) then... once in a while.. There will be Splashes of Water.. coming out.

So whenever that happen.. I have to do all the troublesome work.. Clean all the inside part all overagain.. somtime not really solve the problem after cleaning

Please is there any complete guide for me as a beginner? I want to use it for my gundam.
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The Big Black Thing is an airtank. This stores a bit of compressed air, so that the compressor doesn't have to on all the time. Only when the pressure in the airtank falls, then it switches on again to top up the pressure. This is good, cos it gives a smoother flow of air to the brush.

If you don't have an airtank, then you won't have autoshutdown/on. And it needs to be on all the time.

Please make sure not to on it for too long. Take a bit of rest every 25-30min to cool down the compressor. It'll let the compressor last longer.

And the brush head starts to clog often. I experience it too.

Some technique helps a bit...

If your AB is double action, always turn on the air first, turn on paint, turn off paint, turn off air.

Don't turn off the air without turning off the paint first. In fact, the air should be on all the time while you're painting, and you just turn on and off the paint where/when you need to.

But even then, the head gets clogged.
It happens when I use modelling acrylic paints. Experiment with the formulation of paints. Thin with more water or what.

It doesn't happen when I use specific made for airbrush paints like MEDEA etc.

Another way I suppose, will be to upgrade to an IWata AB. With Teflon coated needle, the head shouldn't clog as easily.

The best and cheapest advice?
Go to Nanyang Bookshop near Petaling St. They have some old stock of MEDEA paints, that they're still selling at old pre-inflation prices.

Imagine rm6 for a 1oz bottle of good airbrush paint. Used it and loved it.

Too bad the choice of colours are limited. Can't even get white and black. But there are a number of shades of red, blue, green, yellow...
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I experience Water Splash after using a while. is it because of the compressor over heating, or because the brush starting to clog?? i Notice when i use Airbrush..im always PANICking. Try to spray watever thing i can in a shot..because i scare the colour will dry up in the Airbrush. tongue.gif

Double Action airbrush= airbrush that can control the amount of paint to spray out? am i right? Im using an old olympos hp 100b-a

The Medea Paints u are talking about.. is it arcylic? Can it be apply for Gundam model?


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u r right about the double action airbrush: the airbrush that can control the amount of paint to spray out. Unlike single action ab, when u press the trigger, only air will come out. u need to pull it back for the paint to come out. the more u pull, the more paint will come out.

As for the water splash, i am not sure..... I heard that compressors also need maintainence to clear out the "white cakes" or lime. Not sure whether is that ur problem. Anyone can explain more on this?
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Sorry for the late reply guys!!! I have ALOT of problem trying to upload these photos into photobucket after the Taiwan earthquake. Tried numerous time before i succeed to upload it.

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Well a pic is worth a thousand words so this explain alot how and where i install my moisture trap.

ntc3freak: I suggest that you try to empty the water in the tank after every session. Open the valve which is located at the bottom and tilt the compressor to the front and later to the back. You will be surprised by the amount of water in it. tongue.gif
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The Medea paints are acrylic.
As to whether suitable for Gundam or not, that I can't say la...

But from the choices of colours available there at Nanyang at the moment, I'ld say it's *highly* unsuitable... unless you want a lime green or red Gundam.

Like I said, Nanyang doesn't have the whole range of colours. These are old stock. I've only used the red so far, and I managed to get some rather good red leather wings effect from it...

http://insanesquirrel.blogsentral.com/2006/12/20/terminus/

what I did with the Medea paint...

but the medea paint is a bit glossy. not sure if that's the effect you want from your gundam.


And I do have a lot of trouble with the AB clogging up too. If I work fast, I can get a few minutes of good spraying, before it gets clogged, and I need to clean the AB before I can continue. Or just up the PSI and force more air thru, but control suffers...

Still experimenting and trial and error. Maybe I'll try with more dilute paints, or paint in a room without fan or aircon. Cos the miniature paints that I use dry quite quickly.
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Sorry for the late reply guys!!! I have ALOT of problem trying to upload these photos into photobucket after the Taiwan earthquake. Tried numerous time before i succeed to upload it.

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Well a pic is worth a thousand words so this explain alot how and where i install my moisture trap.

ntc3freak: I suggest that you try to empty the water in the tank after every session. Open the valve which is located at the bottom and tilt the compressor to the front and later to the back. You will be surprised by the amount of water in it. tongue.gif
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Hm.. I never know well how to operate my compressor even after 1 years since i bought it from Tamiya. The airtrap... I did open the valve below.. and let water out..But the amount is little..just few drop. And there are still water inside that i cannot get them out.. So i have to shake my compressor (turn upside down, left right) to force the water come out? I guess that's probably the cause to my problem (airbrush spraying splashes of waters once in a while)
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Do you have a tank that goes with the compressor? I have quite alot of water trapped in the moisture trap. The same goes to the air tank. Perhaps the water level in ur compressor/water trap is too high causing it to escape through the channel going to your airbrush.

QUOTE(clivengu @ Jan 11 2007, 09:21 PM)
Hm.. I never know well how to operate my compressor even after 1 years since i bought it from Tamiya. The airtrap... I did open the valve below.. and let water out..But the amount is little..just few drop. And there are still water inside that i cannot get them out.. So i have to shake my compressor (turn upside down, left right) to force the water come out? I guess that's probably the cause to my problem (airbrush spraying splashes of waters once in a while)


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HELP!!! I disambled my airbrush and I dont know how to fix it back!!!!

This airbrush i got from my friend's brother.. I notice it is not in good order maybe because there is some colour stuck inside..so decide to take it off to see and mayb have a clean up for it..

But now i donno how to put it back.. Any can some one please tell me how to properly wash my airbrush? Put the whole thing in thinner for few days? And can i use normal cheap Thinner, instead of the expensive thinner from Tamiya? Im gonna broke if i have to use Tamiya one everytime i wash my airbrush
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QUOTE(clivengu @ Feb 24 2007, 07:06 PM)
Put the whole thing in thinner for few days? And can i use normal cheap Thinner, instead of the expensive thinner from Tamiya? Im gonna broke if i have to use Tamiya one everytime i wash my airbrush
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NOoooo! Please don't soak your the whole AB. Guaranteed you will damage it for good.

The metal parts you can slowly and carefully use hardware shop thinner to clean with cloth & cotton bud.

Any part with rubber/plastic washer... slight rub clean and quickly rinse with soap water. Long exposure of the rubber/plastic parts with hardwareshop thinner will damage it permanently.

As for putting the whole thing back.. it all depends on the models and brand. The basics are quite similar.. do a google for the AB schematics for assistance.

Be careful with the needle, nozzle and washers.. if you damage/bend it = gone!

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NOoooo! Please don't soak your the whole AB. Guaranteed you will damage it for good.

The metal parts you can slowly and carefully use hardware shop thinner to clean with cloth & cotton bud.

Any part with rubber/plastic washer...  slight rub clean and quickly rinse with soap water.  Long exposure of the rubber/plastic parts with hardwareshop thinner will damage it permanently.

As for putting the whole thing back.. it all depends on the models and brand.  The basics are quite similar.. do a google for the AB schematics for assistance.

Be careful with the needle, nozzle and washers.. if you damage/bend it = gone!

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So meaning..i can use the hareware shop thinner...not necessary using Tamiya thinner for tamiya paint?
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So meaning..i can use the hareware shop thinner...not necessary using Tamiya thinner for tamiya paint?
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If your using Tamiya Acrylic, you can try surgical spirit from the local pharmacy
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when your AB start to spray out water..that its time for you to give your compressor a break..let it cool donw first before continue..when the compressor get hot..it start to spray water..this mostly happen for those with mini compressor like mine..
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Good tips. I face that problem ... And I always thought is because my Paint is starting to dry inside my AB!! So i have to RUsh Airbrush everything in the shortest time i can. end up spoiling my whole model.. especially when it splashes water.

So we should let d compressor to cool down once in a while? if i do that often.. Will the paint that I pour into the AB dry up fast and clog d Ab head? I have not been using my Ab for 2 years..

Mayb want to buy a new AB. my old AB was given by a graphic friend. which is quite old..and im not sure if it is still in good order or not.. since i never touch a New one b4.


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try to plan before you AB..usually one session of 15 min like that..just finish the whole color is your gun cup..then after it finish spray normal thinner just to clean the inside gun and to prevent clog. dont rush when AB..not only you will ruin your precious model..but also wasting the color..get those small air tight empty bottle..to store your extra color for next time..

mr hobby empty bottle is insane to buy as it cause rm12 just for that stupid empty bottle..
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im thinking to buy a new AB. my previous old ab is given by sm1 else. quite old n not sure ..it stil work properly or not.. like a bit broken.. that one is OLYMPOS hp100b.

Now im looking for a new potential AB..double action. I saw one tat is selling for rm 120 only at an Art shop. But i never see this brand b4. i wonder can i buy that? is double action. Can anyone recommend some good n trusted AB?



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want cheap..get at least Sparmax brand..
dont go for some really really unknown brand
or at least rm200 and above for the ab gun
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Okey.. i'll be searching around first. do you have any place to recommend that i can go for AB hunt?

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i must say i recommend venus art at petaling street

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Nvr been there b4. I don even know how to get to petaling street from here. i in bukit bintang

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Here's a map of the Petaling Street area.

Marked two locations there. These are the APPROXIMATE location of Venus Art and Nanyang.

And while you're there. Also check out the best wantan mee in KL, in the alley next to the food court. smile.gif



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QUOTE(Ratatosk @ Mar 16 2007, 01:37 PM)
Here's a map of the Petaling Street area.

Marked two locations there. These are the APPROXIMATE location of Venus Art and Nanyang.

And while you're there. Also check out the best wantan mee in KL, in the alley next to the food court. smile.gif
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Wow.. goood map. thanks. So is just along petaling street.. where they sell all those cheap nike shoes, vcd dvd etc? only been there twice since came to kl. Anyway, if i happen to go there i can pay a visit to wat u say as best wantan mee in kl. he he.. but wat name is d stall call?
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The cheap nike shoes, is right on petaling street itself, the two roads highlighted pink.

Venus is a groundfloor store along that road. Nanyang will be 'outside' petaling street already.

The wantan mee stall has no name. It's not in the foodcourt. In the alley next to it. The last stall in the alley. The cook is an auntie.

Eat there so often, I just sit down, and the auntie knows what I want tongue.gif


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Sounds fun. i'll print this out next time i got the chance to go there. But I cant remember how can i get there by bus. i stay near bukit bintang.. is there a bus that get to petaling street? Might get lost alone.. ha ha
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I remember that you can actually get on a LRT and stop somewhere near Petaling Street and walk straight to Venus Art. I forgot what is the name of the station but it is only like 5mins walk from Venus. That is how i actually bought my compressor. tongue.gif
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Star LRT from the station next to the Pudu Jail.
Stop at Plaza Rakyat station.
Walk to Petaling St.
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may i know how much a mini compressor can cost? where i can i get it around PJ or KL area? i wan cheap and good one, haha. if anyone know pls let me know.

im just bought Badger air brush pen. hehe. hopefully a mini compressor wont be too expensive. and prefer more quiet one, hehe, so can spray at night. thanks
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I bought my mini compressor from Tamiya.. around rm 400-500+ i think. Come with water trap and Pressure gauge. Quite noisy. Especially when it vibarting against the table. Not sure this is a good one or not.. since that time i have no idea where to get cheap compressor sad.gif
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Tamiya brand compressor? when u bought it ah? just wondering wat is the current market price for a compressor

if noisy then not suitable lo, i stay at condo, normally do spraying outside my unit, and normally at night, later neighbour kill me..........
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wow.. bringing ur compressor everything to corridor to spray ah.. very inconvenient oh.. Spray near windows la. i bought it 2 years ago. but only use a few times. There are times when my airbrush start splashing water. Im not sure is d airbrush problem.. or d compressor problem. Some people told me is d compressor overheat.

I think if u wan cheaper 1 definately shouldnt buy from tamiya. Those Artshop like nanyang, venus or Winsart (PJ) should be selling much cheaper.
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thanks, may i know the exact location of those shop u mentioned? thanks.

now im using a pressure bottle, just plug it to airbrush, same function as compressor, just tat the pressure inside the bottle can finish, and the bottle not cheap, so not economical. tats why looking for a compressor.

i think if got water, is the compressor overheat problem, i also not sure, need to ask those hardware shop ppl.
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thanks, may i know the exact location of those shop u mentioned? thanks.

now im using a pressure bottle, just plug it to airbrush, same function as compressor, just tat the pressure inside the bottle can finish, and the bottle not cheap, so not economical. tats why looking for a compressor.

i think if got water, is the compressor overheat problem, i also not sure, need to ask those hardware shop ppl.
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Scroll Up.. and u'll see d map.. I also never been to Venus or nanyang b4.. Thats why I also ask for the location tongue.gif Will find one day to go petaling street.. I need to buy airbrush.. I think my airbrush is not in good order... cause is and old airbrush given by my friend's bro. Any airbrush to recommend?
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I know this kind of airbrush is expensive to use in long term. and d pressure is inconsistent. So after u bought the compressor.. u will use it with this airbrush? If not mistaken.. i think that is a single action airbrush. correct me if im wrong tongue.gif

D airbrush im currently have is olympos...
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may i know the difference between single action and double action? i not sure mine is in which category, dunno how to check also............

mine is expensive in long term, but quite convenient is shud say, portable, hehe. and super quiet, no noise, hehe.

pressure inconsistent? i tried use the pressure, it seems alright la. don press the spray button so long la, spray few seconds then rest few seconds, i think it can solve the problem.

now i saw some compressor owner say tat their compressor will have water come out la, i start to worry la, later it will affect the colour.... so now dilemma either stick to my original method or buy new compressor........
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Go Venus Art for airbrush / compressor.
I got my 0.3mm double action Sparmax AB with the compressor with airtank for RM810. But heard that prices may have gone up.

The airtank is worth it. It's also like a built in watertrap, so I've not had problem with water spraying. And it gives a more consistent pressure. And the compressor switches off after every few minutes when the airtank is pressurised, then it switches on again only when the pressure drops.

The Sparmax AB is good enough for beginners I guess. But it gets clogged up easily, with the modelling acrylics that I use. Planning to experiment with using alcohol or window cleaner to dilute my paints and see how it goes.

Otherwise, Nanyang has COMART MEDEA airbrush paints, and they work beautifully. No clogging.

Or, you could always hunt around for an Iwata double action airbrush. With Teflon coated needle and nozzle, less likely to clog.
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may i know the difference between single action and double action? i not sure mine is in which category, dunno how to check also............

mine is expensive in long term, but quite convenient is shud say, portable, hehe. and super quiet, no noise, hehe.

pressure inconsistent? i tried use the pressure, it seems alright la. don press the spray button so long la, spray few seconds then rest few seconds, i think it can solve the problem.

now i saw some compressor owner say tat their compressor will have water come out la, i start to worry la, later it will affect the colour.... so now dilemma either stick to my original method or buy new compressor........
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Single action means ur airbrush cannot control the ammount of paint to be spray out. Double action meaning u can control the amount of paint. Press down to release air.. then press backward to let the paint flow throught the AB. the more u push backward the more paint it will flow out.

Yes.. the spraying water trouble really is a pain in the ass. Really can spoil a nice surface. Not sure how to overcome this problem.


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Go Venus Art for airbrush / compressor.
I got my 0.3mm double action Sparmax AB with the compressor with airtank for RM810. But heard that prices may have gone up.

The airtank is worth it. It's also like a built in watertrap, so I've not had problem with water spraying. And it gives a more consistent pressure. And the compressor switches off after every few minutes when the airtank is  pressurised, then it switches on again only when the pressure drops.

The Sparmax AB is good enough for beginners I guess. But it gets clogged up easily, with the modelling acrylics that I use. Planning to experiment with using alcohol or window cleaner to dilute my paints and see how it goes.

Otherwise, Nanyang has COMART MEDEA airbrush paints, and they work beautifully. No clogging.

Or, you could always hunt around for an Iwata double action airbrush. With Teflon coated needle and nozzle, less likely to clog.
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I have the Sparmax mini compressor oredi. But it din come with the Airtank.. Can I add on that Airtank to my mini compressor? I bought it for rm 550 from tamiya. ARGH.. now to think of it is so not worth it.

Sparmax AB? Im not sure which AB is suitable for me. Which will u suggest? budget rm 200 below if possible. sweat.gif

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hey guys, im new here, and just wanted to enquire more bout air brushing.
what do i need to get me started? biggrin.gif
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I just got the cheapest Double Action brush I got. Which was at venus, the Sparmax was rm230, discount discount i got 210. My compressor just rm600.

To do airbrushing.
Easiest just go VA and get the aircompressor and airbrush. That's the best value I managed to find in KL. Cheapest mini compressor around, and very decent entry level double action airbrush.

They package it with all the fittings, pressure regulator, moisture trap (if needed), the tubes and etc. You'll get all the hardware in one purchase, about rm800+.

If just want to play play, or u only got 1-2 projects u want to airbrush. Then can consider the Badger set, using compressed air cans. But if u want to develop skills and really explore the hobby, a compressor is needed.

The software will take more time.
Need to research on net on how to thin paints, and maintain / clean airbrush.

Some websites also teach u basic techniques etc.

Then have to experiment with paints. Getting AB paints for best result, but those are not very common in KL, and may not have the colours u want. So, play around with different paints, experiment and see what kind of result u get with different dilutions. Dilute with water? alcohol? special thinner? or window cleaner?

But the real skills, need to consult sifu who's actually good with AB. And the people I know, are somewhat stingy with sharing it. Cos most people learnt their skills the hard way via trial and error, and sometimes don't like to share info for free. Like kungfu novels. The masters don't simply simply teach their geng moves.
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heya.. some questions on the airbrush:
- what's the pro/cons between gravity feed and bottom feed types of airbrushes? which is recommended for a beginner, or is there no difference?
- what's recommended nozzel size for modelling work? (gunpla, then probly miniatures as well)

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My cheap double action is a 0.3mm nozzle. Which I think is good enough.

It's fine enough that I can get good control.

0.2mm is finer, but I imagine that it'll be even more prone to clogging up if u don't use specialized paints, or filter your acrylics after diluting.

And the 0.2mm costs a bit more (rm20), and I didn't think I need it that fine. For miniatures, you can only use the AB for basecoating anyway. Can't paint fine details with AB no matter how fine the nozzle, so no need to go overboard. And the gravity feed cup for the 0.2mm AB is much smaller too. Frequent refilling.


Gravity feed and bottom feed each has pros and cons. Easy to imagine how if u just look at the AB.

Gravity feed, there's a metal cup at the top. Fill it with paint. Spray till finish. Refill paint.
Then when you change colour, pour the left over paint out. Wash it. Flush the nozzle. Then fill with new colour.
And when u want to paint something at a funny angle, like drawing on the ceiling.... paint will fall out of the cup and into your face. Paint won't even reach the nozzle if you paint at a funny angle.

Bottom feed. You just collect lots of bottles. Fill each bottle with the colour you want to use, properly mixed and diluted to how you like it. Screw on the bottle, and spray. Finish with that colour, unscrew, put the cap back on. And next time you want to use the same colour again, it's ready. Effortless, consistent colour results every time.

Then, you put the bottom feed straw in a small bottle of water / cleaner. Spray to flush the nozzle. And you're ready to screw on the next bottle with a new colour.

Very convenient. And can also spray on ceiling.

But need to collect more bottles, which isn't expensive. SGD$1-2 each when I saw at ArtFriend.

Or if you only want to paint ONE drop of colour somewhere... might be wasteful to use a bottle for it, and mix a larger batch of paint that you won't finish. A bit of wastage. No big deal.

Compressor need to use higher pressure to suck the paint up against gravity.

Bottom feed AB is more expensive.

I like the idea of bottom feed. But I didn't want to spend extra on the AB until I'm really serious about the hobby. The gravity will do for what I need it for at the moment.
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Ratatosk... good sharing smile.gif Might need ur help when i begin airbrushing again. Until then, i will need to buy a new AB..probably d one u recommend Double action Sparmax AB rm 230. My old olympos AB given by people.. I think is already damage..

Bout compressor. mine is Sparmax too. But without the Airtank attached. So I have to Off and ON manually. And easily Overheat. Can I buy Airtank separately to attach to my mini sparmax?
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QUOTE(Ratatosk @ Mar 30 2007, 04:14 PM)
My cheap double action is a 0.3mm nozzle. Which I think is good enough.

It's fine enough that I can get good control.

0.2mm is finer, but I imagine that it'll be even more prone to clogging up if u don't use specialized paints, or filter your acrylics after diluting.

And the 0.2mm costs a bit more (rm20), and I didn't think I need it that fine. For miniatures, you can only use the AB for basecoating anyway. Can't paint fine details with AB no matter how fine the nozzle, so no need to go overboard. And the gravity feed cup for the 0.2mm AB is much smaller too. Frequent refilling.
Gravity feed and bottom feed each has pros and cons. Easy to imagine how if u just look at the AB.

Gravity feed, there's a metal cup at the top. Fill it with paint. Spray till finish. Refill paint.
Then when you change colour, pour the left over paint out. Wash it. Flush the nozzle. Then fill with new colour.
And when u want to paint something at a funny angle, like drawing on the ceiling.... paint will fall out of the cup and into your face. Paint won't even reach the nozzle if you paint at a funny angle.

Bottom feed. You just collect lots of bottles. Fill each bottle with the colour you want to use, properly mixed and diluted to how you like it. Screw on the bottle, and spray. Finish with that colour, unscrew, put the cap back on. And next time you want to use the same colour again, it's ready. Effortless, consistent colour results every time.

Then, you put the bottom feed straw in a small bottle of water / cleaner. Spray to flush the nozzle. And you're ready to screw on the next bottle with a new colour.

Very convenient. And can also spray on ceiling.

But need to collect more bottles, which isn't expensive. SGD$1-2 each when I saw at ArtFriend.

Or if you only want to paint ONE drop of colour somewhere... might be wasteful to use a bottle for it, and mix a larger batch of paint that you won't finish. A bit of wastage. No big deal.

Compressor need to use higher pressure to suck the paint up against gravity.

Bottom feed AB is more expensive.

I like the idea of bottom feed. But I didn't want to spend extra on the AB until I'm really serious about the hobby. The gravity will do for what I need it for at the moment.
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cools smile.gif thanks for the reply.. Hmm. in regards to the miniature spraying, I had asked Wolf about it before, and he said that he's able to use airbrushes for more than just base coating. Still wondering how he's doing it though. Gotta drop by his place one of these days, and check with him on news about the airbrush lessons that he's thinking about doing.
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i need some airbrush expert to help me to do some project.....does anyone interest here? pls pm me if u are interest....make urself stand out from others....

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cools smile.gif thanks for the reply.. Hmm. in regards to the miniature spraying, I had asked Wolf about it before, and he said that he's able to use airbrushes for more than just base coating. Still wondering how he's doing it though. Gotta drop by his place one of these days, and check with him on news about the airbrush lessons that he's thinking about doing.
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Yea... about that...

That's why I mentioned that sifus who have learnt how to AB are protective about their skills. Last time I asked, he said that he would only share his knowledge with his PAWS team. (Painters At Wolf's Shop). With people who are helping him out at the shop to paint terrain or paint minis for commission.

He wouldn't even tell me what black he used to get his minis base-coated. Barely dragged out a few tidbits here and there, about using good thinners, and how window cleaner doesn't work for him.

If he's gonna run classes, then I'll definitely want in.

And I have done more than just base-coating with the AB.

I use it as a cheap (time-wise) way of doing highlighting on some larger minis like the Carnivean. After painting the large blocks of colours in, using a lighter colour, and spray downwards at an angle, so that certain parts will catch a light dusting of the colour, and other parts remain in the 'shadow'.

I like some of the results.
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i'm new here.. i'm interested abuot airbrush too.. so normally what do u recommend for a beginner to get started with airbrushing?? is it just the airbrush and the compressor? then what about the paint?? any paint will do? and is there any other stuff we need to add in with the paint b4 spraying it?
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QUOTE(Keinn @ Apr 10 2007, 07:11 PM)
i'm new here.. i'm interested abuot airbrush too.. so normally what do u recommend for a beginner to get started with airbrushing?? is it just the airbrush and the compressor? then what about the paint?? any paint will do? and is there any other stuff we need to add in with the paint b4 spraying it?
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For paints, I'm still using the acrylics that I've been using for me gundam models all these time (handbrush), which is a mix of Citadel and Tamiya. Normally I just thin using water, but I find that putting in a few drops of alchohol (I use methylated spirits) helps to break down the water tension, and also helps the citadel and tamiya paints to mix together better.
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icic.. so how much did it cost you for a complete set.. i went and ask abuot the airbrush set in a hobby shop and the price was rm 500.. comes with an airbrush and a compressor..
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QUOTE(Keinn @ Apr 11 2007, 02:27 AM)
icic.. so how much did it cost you for a complete set.. i went and ask abuot the airbrush set in a hobby shop and the price was rm 500.. comes with an airbrush and a compressor..
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Wow.. RM500 is cheap. What type of compressor and airbrush is it, and which shop? I got my sparmax compressor and sparmax sidefeed airbrush (double action) with extra feed bottle for RM790, from Petaling Street.
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wow.. thats expensive.. i need to go ask the shop again then.. hmm .. not sure about it.. but i cant do it in this week.. going on holiday ~~ hehe .. so i'll let u know when i find out the details


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There's something that I started pondering on in regards to airbruses. Does anybody wish that there's somekinda laser pointer thingy attached to the airbrush, so they can see precisely there they're pointing at?

Does such a thing even exists?
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One thing the pros do, is to unscrew the metal cap in front of the airbrush. The part that's not the nozzle, but is there to protect the nozzle and needle in case the brush is dropped.

That way, you can see the nozzle very clearly and you'll know where it's pointed. And even better, you can wipe the tip every once in a while to reduce clogs.

Just be very careful not to drop the airbrush. Or you'll need a new nozzle and a new needle...

Hmm.... or maybe suspend the airbrush on a long rubber-band sling. If your hand ever slips, the rubber band will never let the airbrush hit the floor. Hmm....


Added on April 17, 2007, 2:56 pmGosh... Cheap way to start airbrushing:

A 250rm compressor:
http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=230115826976

and a 129rm double action airbrush:
http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=230115828002

But the mini-compressor doesn't have a moisture trap nor a pressure regulator. And the double action airbrush don't know what kind of quality.

But you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

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Hei Guys,
Just wondering anyone still looking for used airbrush compressor which suitable for newbie coz i have a mini compressor with airbrush need to let go due to upgrade. smile.gif

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QUOTE(vipass @ Jun 6 2007, 05:21 PM)
Hei Guys,
Just wondering anyone still looking for used airbrush compressor which suitable for newbie coz i have a mini compressor with airbrush need to let go due to upgrade.  smile.gif
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mind show pics?
or at least list out the specs la..


Added on June 14, 2007, 7:11 pmActually i'm new to this forum,

personaly i'm having an AB set wt air compressor..
wonder how come not much ppl replying to this thread aredy.. hmm.gif

okay, just a few things i wanna share here.. hopefully these aren't the things ppl aredy been discussing earlier..

i'm using it oni for plastic modelling including gunpla, so not really expert.
brand that i'm using isn't any branded ab like iwata, paschaal or badger.
but i find that that's a few basic things that are "must know" for airbrushing

air brush kit (or hand piece)
*single or dual action
Diff is dual action can control paint flow as u are spraying. single also can (correct me if i'm worng notworthy.gif ), but must adjust before spraying, once adjusted, that's the constant amount that comes out.
*gavity flow/side/suction
depends what purpose and usage la..
e.g.
if gravity one, is for normal usage, cleaner is easy
if side one is almost like gravity flow cup, but is a bit cumbersome for me
wel for suction/bottom cup is actually recommended when there's a lot of diff paints need to be sprayed as it's easier to change bottles than to clean the normal gravity cup, but is bad if small amount is sprayed, too little paint will have problem for the suction up to the ab.


basic component of an air compressor:
1)air compressor (the motor/pump that pumps in air)
2)air tank (reservoir tank)
3)air pressure detector (sort of like limit switch, when detect certain air pressure in the reservoir tank, will cut off the air compressor)
4)air/ moisture trap filter + pressure regulator + pressure gauge (all in 1)
5)socket attached with hose

no 1 and 5 are the most basic items that an air compressor must have.
no 2 function is to reserve air to certain pressure so that air output is consistent, which is usually coupled with no 4 (control air pressure output) irregardless of the air pressure/ pulse produce by air compressor.

imagine this,
u got a pump pumping water from a pond, which gives u inconsistent water flow, but u have container to fill all the water, then there's another hose connected out from this container. so as long as there's water in this container, ur water flowing out will always be consistent.
same goes for a reservoir tank.

as mention earlier, sometimes we will tend spray water out from our ab, that is bcoz of our humidity is high, so when air is pressured, so does water vapour, which ended up in our spray job. if u have an "air/ moisture trap filter", release the safety valve fr time to time will expel the water as well biggrin.gif

back to air compressor, actually there's many type.
simplest and smallest one u can even get from a car accesory department, the electric pump to inflat ur tyre one is also air compressor but is useless bcoz of the inconsistent air flow it produces.

then mine is modify from a refridgerator compressor (exactly the same).
then there's this air compressor from car sparepart that runs the air cond in ur car.
if u have seen one b4, it looks like some of the air compressor model.
some others using diagraphm, some runs on oil (mine one too), some oil-less..
there's too many, i hope someone can share more.

basically if u can get all the parts from 1 - 5, u can build ur air compresor aredy.
oni no 3 i dunno where to get.
air compressor can savage from electrical shop that repair fridge, or maybe can modify from a car compressor.
reservoir tank (1-2 litre capacity) can simply ask foundry ppl to weld one for u (shudn't be expensive)
no 4 is selling for less than RM100 (i think sunnyboy has it)

so anybody can build an air compressor and sell it?
hehe tongue.gif

also, for those that is using oil-running air compressor, how to service it huh?
is those oil need to be changed or top-up?









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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Jun 14 2007, 06:26 PM)


air brush kit (or hand piece)
*single or dual action
Diff is dual action can control paint flow as u are spraying. single also can (correct me if i'm worng notworthy.gif ), but must adjust before spraying, once adjusted, that's the constant amount that comes out.
*gavity flow/side/suction
depends what purpose and usage la..
e.g.
if gravity one, is for normal usage, cleaner is easy
if side one is almost like gravity flow cup, but is a bit cumbersome for me
wel for suction/bottom cup is actually recommended when there's a lot of diff paints need to be sprayed as it's easier to change bottles than to clean the normal gravity cup, but is bad if small amount is sprayed, too little paint will have problem for the suction up to the ab.
I was not able to decide between the gravity and bottom feeds, so I got myself a side feed instead (being able to use both gravity and bottom on this). after using it for a while, I kinda wished that I got the gravity feed one after all. Realized that I don't find the bottom feed jars that convenient to use, and now just using the gravity feed cone instead.

QUOTE(erh_teo @ Jun 14 2007, 06:26 PM)
basic component of an air compressor:
1)air compressor (the motor/pump that pumps in air)
2)air tank (reservoir tank)
3)air pressure detector (sort of like limit switch, when detect certain air pressure in the reservoir tank, will cut off the air compressor)
4)air/ moisture trap filter + pressure regulator + pressure gauge (all in 1)
5)socket attached with hose

so anybody can build an air compressor and sell it?
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hmm... if u really want a crude solution, just get some air hoses, the all in one moisture trap + pressure regulartor + pressure gauge, and an old tire from one of those huge trucks smile.gif

although u'll find ppl giving u all kinda funny looks whenever u need to haul it over to the petrol station to refill the air.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 29 2006, 06:41 PM)
The picture you are showing is call "air filter regulator". (Or what you guys call as "moisture trap").
Here is the example. This is my compressor with the air filter regulator and the dryer (membrane air dryer). The air filter regulator(moisture trap) is the same with your one.  smile.gif

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Added on June 15, 2007, 3:15 pmozak..

what do u call that piece located in between the "regulator & water separator" and the "dryer" in the photo?

neh.. the small box in yellow/beige color one..
it's suppose to control the on/off power supply to the air compressor right?


Added on June 15, 2007, 3:45 pmoh.. jus saw this
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/455566

somebody in sabah is offering his ab set wt compressor for rm400 oni..

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my own experience using AB for Gunpla:

PAINT:
i use mr. hobby lacquer paints and thin it with industrial thinner which u can buy at hardware shops for rm 3.50 or so per bottle. zebra brand thinner works the best. you don't even need to use mr. retarder for the mr. surfacer to prevent 'webbing'. it will spray out consistently. mr. hobby plus industrial thinner gives a very smooth paint job. till the point that it looks like the plastic was molded in that color.

MASK:
try to get a double cartridge mask to protect your lungs, again u can get it at hardware shops. rm 45. worth every ringgit.

AB:

get double action AB. and if it's gravity feed, make sure the paint container on the AB is the biggest you can find. mine's really small hence i had to refill it many many times. if you're new, you don't really need to get an expensive one. just learn how to properly dismantle and clean your airbrush properly. oh, it's great if you can purchase one where the nozzle tip can be screwed out. cause that's the part that contribute to a lot of clogging.

COMPRESSOR:
for the compressor, make sure you have a moisture trap. it sucks when you got unwanted water mixing with your thinned paint. and also when purchasing a compressor, test how loud it is. mine's as loud as a running computer cooling fan. that would be most ideal










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[quote=supermen,Jun 17 2007, 02:32 PM]
my own experience using AB for Gunpla:

PAINT:
i use mr. hobby lacquer paints and thin it with industrial thinner which u can buy at hardware shops for rm 3.50 or so per bottle. zebra brand thinner works the best. you don't even need to use mr. retarder for the mr. surfacer to prevent 'webbing'. it will spray out consistently. mr. hobby plus industrial thinner gives a very smooth paint job. till the point that it looks like the plastic was molded in that color.

Are you using the water-based or the thinner-based type (Mr. Color)?

My bro was telling me the thinner based one works better than the water based one. The sprayed texture was more even with less noticeable bubles and "pimples".
the paint also more durable and more scratch-proof..

but the problem is Mr. color doesn't match with water, indrustrial thinner/ alcohol..
just mr.thinner only.. sweat.gif


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[quote=erh_teo,Jun 19 2007, 11:09 AM]
[quote=supermen,Jun 17 2007, 02:32 PM]
my own experience using AB for Gunpla:

PAINT:
i use mr. hobby lacquer paints and thin it with industrial thinner which u can buy at hardware shops for rm 3.50 or so per bottle. zebra brand thinner works the best. you don't even need to use mr. retarder for the mr. surfacer to prevent 'webbing'. it will spray out consistently. mr. hobby plus industrial thinner gives a very smooth paint job. till the point that it looks like the plastic was molded in that color.

Are you using the water-based or the thinner-based type (Mr. Color)?

My bro was telling me the thinner based one works better than the water based one. The sprayed texture was more even with less noticeable bubles and "pimples".
the paint also more durable and more scratch-proof..

but the problem is Mr. color doesn't match with water, indrustrial thinner/ alcohol..
just mr.thinner only.. sweat.gif

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acrylics (water based) tends to be annoying to airbrush, for the reason that it clogs up the nozzle too easily. Also its harder to clean the inside of the airbrush, where spraying of thinner through it is not enough, u really need to find something that can scrub the inner chamber.

but the Mr. Color laquer based paints (the thinner based types) mixes well when using industrial thinner though, from what I find. Keep in mind that there's a difference between alcohol and thinner. I use alcohol when mixing the water based ones, but thinner for the lacquer based types.
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i'm using lacquer type.. indeed if you're using the acrylic type, you can't mix with it with thinner...

another good point of using the lacquer type is that it dries extremely fast the moment the paint hits the model surface

btw, when you purchase thinner, get the highest grade you could. i tried purchasing a RM2 cheap one and it wrecked the paint


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Rili? hmm.gif

to me water based is those bottle that looked like this
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solvent based/ thinner type looked like this
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basically have no problem thinning the water-based one..

but for the solvent/ thinner based, must use "Mr. Thinner" Attached Image to achieve best effect..

actually i've tried many different type of solvent

industrial thinner from hardware
methylated spirit (normal hardware & ACE hardware brand)
zebra brand spirit
isopropanol
ethanol (rubbing alcohol)

some able to dissolve some not (alcohol cannot)
even those that can dissolve, if see properly close-up, u can see some small grain-like appearance of the paint in the solvent (like emulsions in milk)

but one of the solvent my fren gave me (from paint factory, dunno what formula) can achieve the same effect with Mr. Thinner. It melts/ dissolve everything.. u can't see any grains at all, even with magnifying glass, there's no emulsions formation.. and it doesn't affect plastic flex.gif
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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Jun 20 2007, 05:35 PM)
Rili?  hmm.gif

to me water based is those bottle that looked like this
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solvent based/ thinner type looked like this
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basically have no problem thinning the water-based one..

but for the solvent/ thinner based, must use "Mr. Thinner" Attached Image to achieve best effect..

actually i've tried many different type of solvent

industrial thinner from hardware
methylated spirit (normal hardware & ACE hardware brand)
zebra brand spirit
isopropanol
ethanol (rubbing alcohol)

some able to dissolve some not (alcohol cannot)
even those that can dissolve, if see properly close-up, u can see some small grain-like appearance of the paint in the solvent (like emulsions in milk)

but one of the solvent my fren gave me (from paint factory, dunno what formula) can achieve the same effect with Mr. Thinner. It melts/ dissolve everything.. u can't see any grains at all, even with magnifying glass, there's no emulsions formation.. and it doesn't affect plastic  flex.gif
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Ah, i know what you mean.. try getting the zebra brand THINNER instead of the spirit.. err, is it the same thing?

So far im using the zebra brand thinner which works fine for airbrushing...
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Go to hardware store and specifically ask for thinner that you can use for woodware. It is cheap and it works great with lacquer paint.
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hmm.. i think i tried zebra brand before but forgot whether it's spirit of thinner...
but some thinner has bad effect on plastic sad.gif

hardware thinner.. hmm.. tried many.. but stil will clog after ab sometime..

reason is bcoz the paint itself is not 100% dissolve la.. nex time i shoot some close up pic..

emulsion formation.. anyone has experience??
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hmm.. i think i tried zebra brand before but forgot whether it's spirit of thinner...
but some thinner has bad effect on plastic sad.gif

hardware thinner.. hmm.. tried many.. but stil will clog after ab sometime..

reason is bcoz the paint itself is not 100% dissolve la.. nex time i shoot some close up pic..

emulsion formation.. anyone has experience??
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Zebra's got both spirit and thinners (it'll say on the bottle). their thinner does tends to erode plastic, but is pretty alright if u use it only for thinning your paints for spraying, but don't try to use it for paint stripping through.

also, the other reason for clogging will be due to the paint drying up too quickly, which can still happen should even though the paint's fully disolved when loaded into the AB
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ahh... i see smile.gif

i checked mine (zebra brand), it's methylated spirit.. no wonder la..

so wat to do wt the fast drying paint? use retarder? any other options?

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ahh... i see smile.gif

i checked mine (zebra brand), it's methylated spirit.. no wonder la..

so wat to do wt the fast drying paint? use retarder? any other options?
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hehe.. I tend to get my mix ups even worse than u smile.gif I keep both spirits (for acrylics) and thinners (for lacquers), and I had reached for the wrong bottle a few times before (they look so damn similar when u're not paying attention), and wondered how come the lacquer paints r not disolving then I mix in the 'thinner' tongue.gif

fast drying paint, apart from using retarders, the only thing that I can think of will be to use more thinner (this will mean that more time spent on spraying though). Also, matt paints tends to clog more often compared to semi gloss or gloss due to their texture. Despite not liking gloss finishings, I tend to use gloss or semi gloss paints more lately (to reduce the clogging), and just finish it off by spraying on a matt coat after
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Hi guys.. Im new here.. Just got a question.. Anyone of you knows where to service compressor in KL area.. My compressor seems to have a problem where it will keep pumping the air until the pressure is tooo high and the air cant come out from the airbrush. You even can here the air hissing out from the compressor and the gauge pressure indicator will decrease to 0 PSI.. My only option is to off the switch and let go some of the air from the moisture trap.. Then only I can start spraying back.. It kinda annoying and I kinda afraid of long term damage if it keep continuing to happen like that.. By the way my compressor looks like Ozak one except without the 'Driyer'.. Thanks for the info in advance.
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Hi guys.. Im new here.. Just got a question.. Anyone of you knows where to service compressor in KL area.. My compressor seems to have a problem where it will keep pumping the air until the pressure is tooo high and the air cant come out from the airbrush. You even can here the air hissing out from the compressor and the gauge pressure indicator will decrease to 0 PSI.. My only option is to off the switch and let go some of the air from the moisture trap.. Then only I can start spraying back.. It kinda annoying and I kinda afraid of long term damage if it keep continuing to happen like that.. By the way my compressor looks like Ozak one except without the 'Driyer'.. Thanks for the info in advance.
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I havent been airbrushing long enough to need servicing for my compressor, sorry.

But anyways, looking at what u wrote, it sounds a bit weird. if it continues to pump air but nothing comes out of the AB, then it looks like there's a clog somewhere outside of the compressor, especially when it sounds like there's still pressure present in your moisture trap. Of which sounds even stranger when u had mentioned that the pressure gauge states 0 PSI (unless your pressure gauge is not on the moisture trap itself).

if your pressure gauge is on the moisture trap itself, then it might be that part that's the problem, and not the actual compressor itself.
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QUOTE(mdshahrs @ Jun 22 2007, 07:58 PM)
Hi guys.. Im new here.. Just got a question.. Anyone of you knows where to service compressor in KL area.. My compressor seems to have a problem where it will keep pumping the air until the pressure is tooo high and the air cant come out from the airbrush. You even can here the air hissing out from the compressor and the gauge pressure indicator will decrease to 0 PSI.. My only option is to off the switch and let go some of the air from the moisture trap.. Then only I can start spraying back.. It kinda annoying and I kinda afraid of long term damage if it keep continuing to happen like that.. By the way my compressor looks like Ozak one except without the 'Driyer'.. Thanks for the info in advance.
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the regulator got set or not??if you set 40PSI,it will stop at 40PSI,and when you airbrush,the meter will drop to 20PSI and then when you stop pressing the button on the airbrush,it will go back 40PSI,
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QUOTE(mdshahrs @ Jun 22 2007, 07:58 PM)
Hi guys.. Im new here.. Just got a question.. Anyone of you knows where to service compressor in KL area.. My compressor seems to have a problem where it will keep pumping the air until the pressure is tooo high and the air cant come out from the airbrush. You even can here the air hissing out from the compressor and the gauge pressure indicator will decrease to 0 PSI.. My only option is to off the switch and let go some of the air from the moisture trap.. Then only I can start spraying back.. It kinda annoying and I kinda afraid of long term damage if it keep continuing to happen like that.. By the way my compressor looks like Ozak one except without the 'Driyer'.. Thanks for the info in advance.
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Is your compressor working perfectly before this happen? If so, than maybe the pressure switch is spoil. The pressure switch is working as a cut off power switch when the pressure reach the setting point. I m not sure where got shop can repair this kind of compressor. Maybe you can try the penline shop where I hear they still got selling this kind of compressor.
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Maybe shud try to clean the resorvoiir tank also..

mine also happen to be similar cases like urs..

after cleaning the reservoir, moisture trap.. ok aredi..
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Hi all sifu. anyone ever tried this tamiya airbrush system ? i wonder is it good for newbie to start with.

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Hi all sifu.  anyone ever tried this tamiya airbrush system ? i wonder is it good for newbie to start with.

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can't really tell what it is by just looking, but Tamiya tends to be kinda expensive. What u can do is to drop by Petaling Street, look for Venus Arts. The uncle there is pretty helpful, just tell him that u're looking for an airbrush, and that u're a beginner, and ask for his recommendation.

For the compressor, make sure that its got a moisture trap. For the AB itself, I suggest a gravity feed (like the one in the pic that u had posted) double action. Avoid the single action ones.

What I got was the Sparmax compressor + side feed AB (accepts both top and bottom jars), and thinking about it now, I should have just gotten the top feed ones instead, as I find that I never make use of the bottom jars anymore.
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Thanks the info. but i am currently in japan, so need to visit some shop here to see what they are selling.
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jun 25 2007, 12:52 AM)
Thanks the info. but i am currently in japan, so need to visit some shop here to see what they are selling.
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oooooo... ought to be far more choices available there. But no idea on how the prices r like though. So far from what I've seen in the earlier posts in this thread, Tamiya's decent, but pricey. Other brands r likely to be better value for money.

Oh yeah, when u shop around for ABs right, u might find that some of the gravity feed types may have rather small sized cones. Don't be put off by those. The one in the pic that u've posted has got a rather large cone, and u'll seldom fill it up fully anyways. Even should u need to spray a lot of the same color at the same time, its better to split it into batches, as you may need to stop halfway and spray thinner (or spirits, depending on your paint type) through the airbrush to clear it up a bit more before continueing.
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not really sure whats the price in malaysia. but the tamiya system above is selling around RM 500.00 here. hope thats not too expensive.

but the bundled AB is single action only, and i think there are no moisture trap also
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jun 25 2007, 02:08 AM)
not really sure whats the price in malaysia. but the tamiya system above is selling around RM 500.00 here. hope thats not too expensive.

but the bundled AB is single action only, and i think there are no moisture trap also
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Really got no clue about the pricing of the Tamiya ones.. sorry.

I got my Sparmax compressor (with moisture trap) and my Sparmax sidefeed double action AB for RM790, off Venus Arts at Petaling Street. I guess u can use that figure to compare the prices over there for something similar.

U'll definetely need a moisture trap for your compressor, due to Malaysia's relatively high level of humidity. Also, even for beginners, the single action is not really worth it, as it kinda lacks the control level that u can get from the double action. The starting cost for an AB kit is high enough that you might as well pay that extra and get the double action AB guns than start with a single action.
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First of all, thanks for the info guys.. Secondly,

Arlydevilex: The regulator is set usually to 20 psi for my preference.. and i do notice that it will slightly drop everytime i airbrushing my model.

Ozak: My compressor work perfectly before this.. It happen when 1 day i reuse it back for 1st time in four month time if I not mistaken.. I got a feeling that the pressure switch is broken also, but sometimes it work normally. Last time I used to to turn it on overnight but not soo often.

erh_teo: I dunno how the reservoir looks like.. The moisture trap looks clean to me.. + kinda scared if i try to fix it myself, it can get worse..

Anyway guys thanks again for the info yaa..
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Came across with this cheap double action AB today, can switch between gravitiy or bottom paint bottle. Price around RM80.00.

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Seems good enough for begineer to begin with.

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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jun 25 2007, 04:55 PM)
Came across with this cheap double action AB today, can switch between gravitiy or bottom paint bottle. Price around RM80.00.

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Seems good enough for begineer to begin with.
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hm....cheap for 80rm..but me prefer 0.2mm if its 0.3.

malaysia tamiya airbrush sell 1000+ japan airbrush some also selling 1000+

me bought taiwan de for only 580 compressor+regulator+airbrush icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi there,

This airbrush thing seems very interesting. I would like to learn about it. Anyone can help/guide me here? I am graphic designer.
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QUOTE(neshh @ Jun 25 2007, 07:36 PM)
Hi there,

This airbrush thing seems very interesting. I would like to learn about it. Anyone can help/guide me here? I am graphic designer.
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O_o.airbrush is for erm..spraying,better then spray can as it can do shadding by spraying very neatly.its a good invesment if you are really into model kit biggrin.gif

althought i am only 13,i bought an ab and its gonna last me till i retire as i do modelling putting my heart and souls into it icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jun 25 2007, 04:55 PM)
Came across with this cheap double action AB today, can switch between gravitiy or bottom paint bottle. Price around RM80.00.

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Seems good enough for begineer to begin with.
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Yeah, RM80 is a great deal for this one. Cant really tell how good it is, but well, its pretty well priced for you to start experimenting on before getting a better one.
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Look nice the airbrush.. How big is it?? I mean the spraying size.. 0.2mm?? 0.3mm?? or 0.5mm??
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Hi there,

This airbrush thing seems very interesting. I would like to learn about it. Anyone can help/guide me here? I am graphic designer.
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AB is nice smile.gif However I mainly use it for models, so cant really help u much on the part of being a graphic designer. But check this out. This' what I think that u're after?

http://www.khulsey.com/demo_howto_airbrush_technique.html
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Look nice the airbrush.. How big is it?? I mean the spraying size.. 0.2mm?? 0.3mm?? or 0.5mm??
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there are 0.2mm and 0.3mm on sale.
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Where can you get that airbrush? It is definitely affordable!
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I saw it in Tokyo. Dun think they will send it to malaysia. Not sure how much is selling in malaysia.

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Where can you get that airbrush? It is definitely affordable!
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grafiti at bts.selling 580 whole set compressor+ab+regulator
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grafiti  at bts.selling 580 whole set compressor+ab+regulator
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any idea what's the brand of the AB?
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anyone got a picture of this set of compressor and AB and regulator??
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brand is a taiwan brand de pics will be later..camera with mum blush.gif
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brand is a taiwan brand  de pics will be later..camera with mum blush.gif
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After some research, i narrow down the option into either getting a branded iwata system (~RM500.00)
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Or just start with cheapest solution compressor + AB (~RM300.00)
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any opinion which should i go for ?

is this the paint for AB use ? wonder how long will it last for such small bottle ?
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RM3.00 perbottle
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if its just a little RM200 difference (real small amount when it comes to AB sets), I'll say go for the Iwata instead. Honestly, RM500 for an Iwata set is dirt heap, and Iwata is the brand that most pro modellers swear by.

And yes, that's the paint suitable for AB use. How long it'll last would really depend on your model itself, and how u mix the paint.

There's 2 types actually. One is the one that u had posted (acrylic, water based). There's another type from Mr Hobby with a different cap, of which is lacquer, also of the same size. I would prefer to use lacquer (thinner based) for airbrushing though, as I find that lacquers clogs less in the airbrush.
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the one you show is not waterbase de meh??
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After some research, i narrow down the option into either getting a branded iwata system (~RM500.00)
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Or just start with cheapest solution compressor + AB (~RM300.00)
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any opinion which should i go for ?

is this the paint for AB use ? wonder how long will it last for such small bottle ?
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Is it the iwata AB come with the compressor and cost RM500? Where can I get it? I think it quite cheap.
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Is it the iwata AB come with the compressor and cost RM500? Where can I get it? I think it quite cheap.
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well, the fellow's in Japan right now, so if u want it, you'll have to beg him to get it for u first, then u pay him when u collect from him back in Malaysia smile.gif
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well, the fellow's in Japan right now, so if u want it, you'll have to beg him to get it for u first, then u pay him when u collect from him back in Malaysia smile.gif
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I see. Thaught can get it here. Any shop got sell it at here? My single and double action AB spoil liau. Thinking of get a good AB.
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which model you are looking for ? These are some high end model i saw

HP-CH = RM550.00
HP-CP = RM350.00
HP-AP = RM300.00

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I see. Thaught can get it here. Any shop got sell it at here? My single and double action AB spoil liau. Thinking of get a good AB.
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I guess your best bet locally will be Venus Arts over in Petaling Street. Not too sure how much they're selling and what choices they've got though, but I got my sparmax from there. The uncle there is pretty friendly and helpful too. I'm likely to make another trip there sometime soon to look for a dedicated gravity feed AB.
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jun 30 2007, 12:12 PM)
which model you are looking for ? These are some high end model i saw

HP-CH = RM550.00
HP-CP = RM350.00
HP-AP = RM300.00
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these iwata sure reasonable price!....
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I guess your best bet locally will be Venus Arts over in Petaling Street. Not too sure how much they're selling and what choices they've got though, but I got my sparmax from there. The uncle there is pretty friendly and helpful too. I'm likely to make another trip there sometime soon to look for a dedicated gravity feed AB.
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I don't think they got carry branded AB. Mostly they sell taiwan or china brand. Want to get some good AB to use for longtime.

Hei sooyewguan, If not too heavy, mind get one for me? rclxms.gif Pay you back. You can charge me more for your walking fee. he...he... But if too troublesome, forget it. ok.
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Any1 heard of the brand PUMA air compressor?? I've been told by af hobby's boss about this brand that he's selling. It comes with an air tank. Price is around RM500+, just the compressor. He told me its a local brand. thus, getting replacement parts n servicing it becomes easier. I heard it gets overheated fast. Donno whether its worth buying. Any advices?
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Any1 heard of the brand PUMA air compressor?? I've been told by af hobby's boss about this brand that he's selling. It comes with an air tank. Price is around RM500+, just the compressor. He told me its a local brand. thus, getting replacement parts n servicing it becomes easier. I heard it gets overheated fast. Donno whether its worth buying. Any advices?
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No idea about the PUMA brand, but the air tank is supposed to prevent the quick overheating, as the compressor fills up the tank first, then cuts off. It only comes back on when the tank's pressure drops below a certain level.

U might wanna check with the shop on how long can u switch it on continously before it overheats. My Sparmax that I got from Venus Arts, I was advised by the uncle there to only run it for 15 minutes at a time. So u can use that 15 minutes for without an air tank to judge if the running time's alright or not.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 1 2007, 01:30 AM)
Hei sooyewguan, If not too heavy, mind get one for me? rclxms.gif Pay you back. You can charge me more for your walking fee. he...he... But if too troublesome, forget it. ok.
I can bring back AB if anyone want one, but I am not going back to Malaysia till next year.

Not sure if by airmail would be another good option, afraid of customs might tax u if they open up the box. may be u can find out if AB is tax free like computer parts or not.

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No idea about the PUMA brand, but the air tank is supposed to prevent the quick overheating, as the compressor fills up the tank first, then cuts off. It only comes back on when the tank's pressure drops below a certain level.

U might wanna check with the shop on how long can u switch it on continously before it overheats. My Sparmax that I got from Venus Arts, I was advised by the uncle there to only run it for 15 minutes at a time. So u can use that 15 minutes for without an air tank to judge if the running time's alright or not.
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Yup, he told me that it has to be switched off after 15minutes using it. I come across my fren who is a relative of venus art's owner, he told me that Sparmax air compressor with air tank is around RM700+. How about those they sell in Grafiti @ BTS? Any feedbacks?
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jul 1 2007, 11:14 AM)
I can bring back AB if anyone want one, but I am not going back to Malaysia till next year.

Not sure if by airmail would be another good option, afraid of customs might tax u if they open up the box. may be u can find out if AB is tax free like computer parts or not.
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Wah got to wait that long. My neck lng liau. cry.gif Can deliver by airmail but the cost maybe expensive. Maybe expensive than the AB. sad.gif I think the custom won't tax the item even with the compressor. Cause it sent by individual not company. Second, the price receipt can put it lower if kena tax not that much. Third you can unpack the item, and send it as repair item. So when the person collect the item, he can explain that the item is repair and send it back to here. tongue.gif


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Yup, he told me that it has to be switched off after 15minutes using it. I come across my fren who is a relative of venus art's owner, he told me that Sparmax air compressor with air tank is around RM700+. How about those they sell in Grafiti @ BTS? Any feedbacks?
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I think I saw this compressor before. It got a tank and whole compressor is red color. But it running in piston type. quite noisy. With 15min got to off it, I think better don't buy it. When concentrade on spraying modeling, you will feel troublesome everytime got to swith it on and off that frequence.

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15min is kinda fast...i on my compressor for 2hours every time i use it
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15min is kinda fast...i on my compressor  for 2hours every time i use it
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u sure your compressor can ON for 2 hrs? hmm.gif

even spramax can onli last 40mins max..then it need to stop to prevent water n overheat..
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 2 2007, 01:04 AM)
Wah got to wait that long. My neck lng liau.  cry.gif Can deliver by airmail but the cost maybe expensive. Maybe expensive than the AB.  sad.gif I think the custom won't tax the item even with the compressor. Cause it sent by individual not company. Second, the price receipt can put it lower if kena tax not that much. Third you can unpack the item, and send it as repair item. So when the person collect the item, he can explain that the item is repair and send it back to here. tongue.gif
tongue.gif, postage is around RM50 from tokyo to malaysia. If you are sure about the customs rules, I had no problem to help u buy that from here.
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QUOTE(Kyoshiro @ Jul 1 2007, 12:29 PM)
Yup, he told me that it has to be switched off after 15minutes using it. I come across my fren who is a relative of venus art's owner, he told me that Sparmax air compressor with air tank is around RM700+. How about those they sell in Grafiti @ BTS? Any feedbacks?
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hmm.. if its just 15 minutes with an air tank, then its not really worth it, as my Sparmax without an air tank runs for the same duration too. U might wanna check with the Venus Art's ppl on how long that Sparmax with the air tank can run for.
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 2 2007, 10:07 AM)
u sure your compressor can ON for 2 hrs? hmm.gif

even spramax can onli last 40mins max..then it need to stop to prevent water n overheat..
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A compressor should be able run at least 8hr. It actual is not running continueslly. But on and off. When the tank is full it will stop till the pressure down and start again. That is why it can run long hr. My one even can run 24hr non stop!
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A compressor should be able run at least 8hr. It actual is not running continueslly. But on and off. When the tank is full it will stop till the pressure down and start again. That is why it can run long hr. My one even can run 24hr non stop!
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i mean those set that earlydevilx bought la.....

the compressor i use can open 24 hours also...haha...red square casing type 1.... brows.gif
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tongue.gif, postage is around RM50 from tokyo to malaysia. If you are sure about the customs rules, I had no problem to help u buy that from here.
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Sure bro. Thanks in advances. rclxms.gif But Rm50 postage is kinda cheap. Is it normal postage? That would be a bid dangerous, Anytime can lost when arrive in malaysia. If using those DHL, TNT or Federal xpress is safer. But come with a price. Hei bro, can I choose the model and check it out for me? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jul 4 2007, 01:15 AM)
Sure bro. Thanks in advances.  rclxms.gif But Rm50 postage is kinda cheap. Is it normal postage? That would be a bid dangerous, Anytime can lost when arrive in malaysia. If using those DHL, TNT or Federal xpress is safer. But come with a price. Hei bro, can I choose the model and check it out for me?  rclxm9.gif
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Ya, Malaysia post sure got some bad reputation. well can post with better trackable with insurances. already check with Fedex and is around RM240.00 rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

Ya, give me a model I try to check for it.
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QUOTE(sunnyboy @ Jul 4 2007, 01:10 AM)
i mean those set that earlydevilx bought la.....

the compressor i use can open 24 hours also...haha...red square casing type 1.... brows.gif
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u sure your compressor can ON for 2 hrs? hmm.gif

even spramax can onli last 40mins max..then it need to stop to prevent water n overheat..
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confirm...


2hr can tahan......

your type the cover already made it looks so heavy duty=,=
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I come across this ab set that grafiti sells, it comes with ab, hose and the air compressor. Its a worth buying set i guess. I think its kinda suitable for most beginners as it switches off automatically. So it wont get overheat easily.
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whr to get that? whr did u see it?
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QUOTE(Kyoshiro @ Jul 5 2007, 03:17 AM)
I come across this ab set that grafiti sells, it comes with ab, hose and the air compressor. Its a worth buying set i guess. I think its kinda suitable for most beginners as it switches off automatically. So it wont get overheat easily.
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i do hav 2 frens that used the compressor that grafiti sell...

after 2-3 months....no more using that...reason? the compressor running, n very very low pressure output, then sent to shop for repair..no sparepart...

so think twice. sweat.gif
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i do hav 2 frens that used the compressor that grafiti sell...

after 2-3 months....no more using that...reason? the compressor running, n very very low pressure output, then sent to shop for repair..no sparepart...

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i do hav 2 frens that used the compressor that grafiti sell...

after 2-3 months....no more using that...reason? the compressor running, n very very low pressure output, then sent to shop for repair..no sparepart...

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Finally got this compressor to begin with my airbrush hobby. however, still need a AB to start painting. guess i will buy a cheap one and begin some simple lesson first.
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No idea about the PUMA brand, but the air tank is supposed to prevent the quick overheating, as the compressor fills up the tank first, then cuts off. It only comes back on when the tank's pressure drops below a certain level.

U might wanna check with the shop on how long can u switch it on continously before it overheats. My Sparmax that I got from Venus Arts, I was advised by the uncle there to only run it for 15 minutes at a time. So u can use that 15 minutes for without an air tank to judge if the running time's alright or not.
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Fyire, I think ur sparmax compressor should be d same with mine.. but mine bought from Tamiya, mini 1 without airtank. I didnt know anything about -only run for 15 minutes at a time. So wat will happen after 15 minutes?

I found my Airbrush will splash out water after using for a while... At first i thought is my AB got Clog.. SO d real reason it splash water is bcause d compressor overheated is it? blink.gif blink.gif


I got another question.. Today i try Handbrush my toys using Mr Metalic COlour- lacquer type.. It is damn hard to use... Even when I want to wash my Brush + dice oso takes lots of effort.. By d way im using ZIPPO fluid...

Mr Metalic colour + zippo + Mr retarded Milo -- hand brush.

I have nvr try AB using lacquer paint bcause im afraid it might clog my AB VERY easily.. n forever GONE~ pls advice me on how to AB using lacquer paint pls icon_question.gif

And comparing lacquer paint and acrylic... Lacquer is muc more durable compare to acrylic.. Am i right?


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QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 9 2007, 02:24 AM)
Fyire, I think ur sparmax compressor should be d same with mine.. but mine bought from Tamiya, mini 1 without airtank. I didnt know anything about -only run for 15 minutes at a time. So wat will happen after 15 minutes?
The chances of the motor burning out will be marginally higher.

QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 9 2007, 02:24 AM)
I found my Airbrush will splash out water after using for a while... At first i thought is my AB got Clog.. SO d real reason it splash water is bcause d compressor overheated is it? blink.gif  blink.gif
Well, yes and no in its own way. I guess the compressor getting hot might contribute to the air coming from it being more damp (and hence resulting in more water splashes from the AB), but the real danger in prolonged use for such baby compressors is in the motor burning out.

Also I seldom do any AB work when the weather is wet (raining, or dark clouds in the sky), as that's got an effect on the splattering as well.

Something else to think about as well, I've read in quite a lot of other forums saying that the moisture traps found in our types of baby compressors r pretty useless, and don't work too well, and they recommend getting a heavy duty one off a hardware shop instead. However I've not yet tried hunting for one as yet.

QUOTE(clivengu @ Jul 9 2007, 02:24 AM)
I got another question.. Today i try Handbrush my toys using Mr Metalic COlour- lacquer type.. It is damn hard to use... Even when I want to wash my Brush + dice oso takes lots of effort.. By d way im using ZIPPO fluid...

Mr Metalic colour + zippo + Mr retarded Milo -- hand brush.
Yeah, its quite different indeed from using an airbrush. Although I currently do things the opposite of what u do. I use acrylics for hand painting, and lacquer for ABing.

Lacquers dries too quickly to hand brush for my liking, and acrylics dries too slowly for ABing for my liking.

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I have nvr try AB using lacquer paint bcause im afraid it might clog my AB VERY easily.. n forever GONE~ pls advice me on how to AB using lacquer paint pls icon_question.gif

And comparing lacquer paint and acrylic... Lacquer is muc more durable compare to acrylic.. Am i right?
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Yup, lacquer is more durable.

And in regards to the clogging, I used have the same thinking and phobia as you in regards to the clogging. However when I finally got around to trying out lacquer on my AB, I was rather surprised indeed.

Clogging when using lacquer and clogging when using acrylics r kinda different indeed. When using acrylics, u're guaranteed to run into clogging after 10 minutes of airbrushing, however that doesnt happen for lacquers.

Normal cleaning for lacquers is a lot easier than for acrylics as well, just spray thinner through your airbrush, while for acrylics, normal cleaning can be a lot more stubborn to do.

When using lacquers, just remember these points:
- Always spray thinner through your AB after u're finished with each cup of paint, or each color.
- Remove the needle for cleaning often as well
- Never ever forget to spray thinner through your AB after painting.

That's about it, for using lacquers in your AB. A lot simpler than acrylics, just that the mistake of not cleaning your AB is a lot more fatal than compared to acrylics.

What I tend to do currently, is to finish up the model nicely using lacquers, to obtain that tough finishing that's less prone to scratching. Then I apply the top coat for extra protection, then switch to acrylics for the weathering work. Any mess ups at this point (and mess ups during weathering is more frequent too), can be cleaned up using spirits, which does not run the risk of peeling off the lacquer paint at the bottom.
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^ i think fyire can publish a book or video on airbrush tutorial already smile.gif.

by the way, did u post any work that we can take a look ?
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Here's some of the models that I've posted before:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=12293208

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11188991

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11532341

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11943247

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=12184108
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Fyire!~~~ YOU ARE D GOD!!! KIRA~~ HA HA

U explain my question in Such details that I think official AB guru oso will not tell. THANKS really A LOT.. your tips are really convincing.

You are right about im being phobia for using Lacquer paint for AB.. Cause all this time i have been using Acrylic for AB.. and to be honest.. AFTER 2 years of buying AB + Mini compressor.. I have never complete an AB kit. I get so irritated when the AB begins to clog ..so FAST.. took out everything...wash.. n spray again.. n d process keep repeating.. n once in a while will spray water n that totally spoil my kit surface..

Fade up... i put my AB aside.. until recently begin to carry out my hobby again. But right now im just waiting to move to a better n more convenient ROOM.. where thr is big windows, ventilation for me to do AB..

Now im staying in a room with tiny top windows n only hav AIRCOND.... try spray once in d aircond room.. FEEL LIKE GOING TO DIE ANYTIME.. ha ha. KIDS DONT TRY THIS AT HOME.
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Now im staying in a room with tiny top windows n only hav AIRCOND.... try spray once in d aircond room.. FEEL LIKE GOING TO DIE ANYTIME.. ha ha. KIDS DONT TRY THIS AT HOME.
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eeeeeeeeee... bad place to do AB work. If you're using acrylics, still not as bad, but definetely a big no no if working with lacquers.
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get a Mr. Super Booth... Is a painting booth... for those no place to do AB...
i am considering this thingy...
but the price.... hmmm...
and M'sia look like don have this stock...
need order one... sad.gif

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the booth can DIY urself. Here's a short tutorial.
http://plamo.outthere.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=1846
If u're looking for ready made ones... A shop name Gallant in lowyat sells them. Basically its a shop selling hp accessories and services but i donno y they sell some other stuff like spray booth exhaust fan etc.
I saw it awhile ago so not sure whether they still have it or not.
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henry, that booth is quite big and the packaging also will be big...
if u order online, shipping via SAL or EMS, it'll get notice...
not sure also but most prolly will kena tax...
big box mar...
was thinking on buying that too but decided to DIY...

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QUOTE(Kyoshiro @ Jul 11 2007, 11:45 AM)
the booth can DIY urself. Here's a short tutorial.
http://plamo.outthere.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=1846
If u're looking for ready made ones... A shop name Gallant in lowyat sells them. Basically its a shop selling hp accessories and services but i donno y they sell some other stuff like spray booth exhaust fan etc.
I saw it awhile ago so not sure whether they still have it or not.
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Thanks for the DIY link and the location of the local shop...
Will go there see see... smile.gif

QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Jul 11 2007, 12:00 PM)
henry, that booth is quite big and the packaging also will be big...
if u order online, shipping via SAL or EMS, it'll get notice...
not sure also but most prolly will kena tax...
big box mar...
was thinking on buying that too but decided to DIY...
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I think so... the shipping fees and taxes already cost a lot...
think of DIY myself like the link which Kyoshiro stated... smile.gif
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the booth can DIY urself. Here's a short tutorial.
http://plamo.outthere.info/forum/showthread.php?tid=1846
If u're looking for ready made ones... A shop name Gallant in lowyat sells them. Basically its a shop selling hp accessories and services but i donno y they sell some other stuff like spray booth exhaust fan etc.
I saw it awhile ago so not sure whether they still have it or not.
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The tutorial... Very impressive.. ha ha.. Wonder how much it cost to create a dIy booth like this.. d Fan.. where to get it..n wat is tat called actually. sweat.gif
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The fan i think its call the exhaust fan gua... lolx!
Anyway, the shop i mention earlier got sell. U might wanna go there n check it out. I'm not so sure bout the availability right now coz i saw it quite sometime ago. I think it works with a computer casing fan too but need a strong 1 and have to DIY abit. Refrigerator fans will do too.

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Finally my AB arrived. Still need more exercise.
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Beautiful Photo...~ u took it ? congratulation mua ha ha ha
Kyosiro.. Which shop in Lowyat are you talking about.. Draw a map for me.. i can go there to check.. i juz live next to there.. tongue.gif
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well, i got it during cheap sales. compressor RM240 and AB (not iwata actually) RM 100, a nice startup for newbie i think.

btw, i bought some acrylic paint. i dunno what is the portion between paint and tinner to get a nice output.
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How is the noise of the compressor? Can it be run long hour?
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Beautiful Photo...~ u took it ? congratulation mua ha ha ha
Kyosiro.. Which shop in Lowyat are you talking about.. Draw a map for me.. i can go there to check.. i juz live next to there.. tongue.gif
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The shop name is Gelant. Sell all kinds of handphone accessories. It's beside APT academy.

BTW, bro sooyewguan really got that compressor cheap. Does it comes with airtank or auto off function?
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Finally my AB arrived. Still need more exercise.
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How is the noise of the compressor? Can it be run long hour?
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BTW, bro sooyewguan really got that compressor cheap. Does it comes with airtank or auto off function?
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Jul 29 2007, 04:09 PM)
Noise level is still acceptable, but never tested how long it would last yet.


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No airtank and not auto off, only got pressure control.
The auto off is only applicable if you've got an airtank. And well, without those 2, then its more of classified as a baby compressor, with a limited run time. But still pretty good enough for hobby use. Just don't go and just 'test' on how long it can be switched on continously as that'll risk a burn out smile.gif Best way to find out is to check with the shops, and other ppl who've used the same compressor before.

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Added on July 29, 2007, 4:12 pm
I am in Japan currently, but i am sure its also can be found in Malaysia in silver color
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Hey, when cha coming back to Malaysia, and which part of Malaysia r u from? Might wanna ask a favour, if u can help me get an Iwata AB or not smile.gif The prices that u got the stuff for in Japan is really cheap, especially the Iwata stuff.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Jul 29 2007, 11:15 PM)
The auto off is only applicable if you've got an airtank. And well, without those 2, then its more of classified as a baby compressor, with a limited run time. But still pretty good enough for hobby use. Just don't go and just 'test' on how long it can be switched on continously as that'll risk a burn out smile.gif Best way to find out is to check with the shops, and other ppl who've used the same compressor before.
Hey, when cha coming back to Malaysia, and which part of Malaysia r u from? Might wanna ask a favour, if u can help me get an Iwata AB or not smile.gif The prices that u got the stuff for in Japan is really cheap, especially the Iwata stuff.
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may be will be coming back in feb next year. give me a model i try search for the price first.


Added on August 7, 2007, 2:09 pmLooking for water filter for my compressor. will this do the trick for me ?
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wanted to ask izzit the compressor you showing is what you bought in japan? not here??
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^ ya thats rgiht. but i am sure there some selling in malaysia too
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anyone can help? i just got myself a mini compressor that looks alike with sparmax mini but only have 1/4 male connector. mostly now air brush is 1/8 or hose, anyone know where they sell any converter that change 1/4 to 1/8 or maybe 1/4 to silicon hose????. really hope someone would help me.

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VA opens on Sunday? I am from Malacca and Im planning to go KL soon for my friend's wedding. I thought I should go to VA to get myself AB + compressor. Hope anyone can tell me this so that I would not waste a trip to go there in case it doesnt open on Sunday. Anybody know the latest price for sparmax mini compressor without air tank and also the AB? Last I can find in this thread is RM790/set (Fyire) and that's early this year.

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bro, u can check my thread... i sell compressor n ab same as those they sell in VA
BTW, VA is close on sundays but i can get the compressor and ab for u if u wan it.

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hei guys, i found the 1/4" to 1/8" converter but still cant fit. anyone can help me with this or not?? please please
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hei guys, i found the 1/4" to 1/8" converter but still cant fit. anyone can help me with this or not?? please please
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how to say leh, i bought a compressor without regulator and moisture trap and its a 1/4" male output. i hope to use it in gundam spraying,anyone know how could i convert the output from 1/4" to 1/8"?


Added on September 9, 2007, 11:25 pmim finding the air flow regulator including the moisture trap along. anyonw know where to get it?


Added on September 16, 2007, 12:20 amgot my compressor,moisture trap with regulator and airbrush set. will start airbrush training tomorrow

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Sorry if im disturbing or nething..
just seemed like a good forum for me to start finding info on airbrushing..
thinking of making this a hobby..
but so far ive been reading thru n it seems to get started u need at least 500..
is that true?
im only a student..
are there any alternatives?
maybe beginner kits..
less than 500 achievable?
ive been looking around sooo long for an AB+compressor..
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mostly now days compressor itself (included moisture trap and regulator) cost rm500 dee. but i buy all separately (compressor,moisture trap +regulator ,airbrush 0.3 set) total cost me around rm 550.ahhaha
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puma compressor review.
Read it here :
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QUOTE(enJiNer @ Nov 9 2007, 04:48 PM)
puma compressor review.
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shakehead.gif same as mine =_= even ur floor tiles is same lolz
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not bad la this...but dunno costly o not..i got mine(exclude handpiece and water trap/filter) for Rm700 like tat =_="

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enJiNer get his below rm550
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hi newbie here.i have basic skill art which i learn it from the primary school i love to paint and draw.now im trying something advance like airbrushing,however im more to airbrush on a big canvas..maybe to motorcycle ..can somebody guide me on step by step choosing AB hardware?
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Guys. Want to ask where can get the iwata or same quality AB here in malaysia? All my AB kong liau. Need to get one here. If cannot find than no choice but to order one online.

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hi all,
i think i wanna start on model kit modelling and i'm interested in getting an AB set..and i found out many interesting infos here..anyway, can anyone recommend where to get model cement & paint? online shops in malaysia? as here in jb, very hard to find any model kit shops..what kind/brand of paints that is good for modelling?

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The nearest for you to go is singapore. I guess more stuff there than here. Even in KL.
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The nearest for you to go is singapore. I guess more stuff there than here. Even in KL.
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Hi, im trying to search a moisture trap for my airbrush compressor.
Any suggestion store or online shop to buy?

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Any 1 know whr to get airbrush holder around bkt bintang area?
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Yo guys... i'm a newbie here... Am interested with airbrushing techniques ... hope all the sifoo's here can help me...

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go youtube and searh "airbrush"...serve urself rite ^^

BTW guys...y dun we open a new thread(remind me if it exists), discuss among owners about what type of airbrush we using...thier pics and along wif our actual experience on it's performance and write some sort of review tongue.gif ?

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go youtube and searh "airbrush"...serve urself rite ^^

BTW guys...y dun we open a new thread(remind me if it exists), discuss among owners  about what type of airbrush we using...thier pics and along wif our actual experience on it's performance and write some sort of review tongue.gif ?
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I don't think the mod will let you create another thread. maybe just using the same thread will do.

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Anyone living in kl and has an airbrush ? Wanna tumpang use .. Can charge a fee I don't mind smile.gif
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Whats the estimated price for Iwata airbrush?  blush.gif
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Used to have it...but mine was damaged since I put too much pressure(water finally hit the air tank.... blink.gif )

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QUOTE(Cyprid Dark ii @ Mar 19 2008, 12:11 PM)
Used to have it...but mine was damaged since I put too much pressure(water finally hit the air tank.... blink.gif  )
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u dont drain the air tank aaa???
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u dont drain the air tank aaa???
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.......Dunno lerr....

It happen when I was doing my drawing,but suddenly my pressure was going down slowly,even when I try to open the air valve......

So I see the drip of water beneath the air tank.....& after inspection,the air just turned into water,& my tank was draining.... tongue.gif

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got any idea where to repair AB compressor?
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may i knoe what's the cheapest package needed for normal gundam air brushing and the price of it ?
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well u can call up AFHobby boss to order a china compressor for u, got mine from him for 360 w/o moisture trap, 2HP engine with storage tank...quite noisy when filling up the tank, but tat takes only around 20s and with full tank u can use it for the nite already (1 airbrush la) thumbup.gif...airbrush u can go to VA in ps boutique....cheapest sparmax around....around 200 depends on how much u willing to spend brows.gif brows.gif

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If tamiya airbrush set is that ncie to use? or better get those other brand??
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There's a few places in KL you can check about airbrush set..a good one

Venus Art & Stationery Sdn Bhd
No. 90 Jalan Petaling
50000 Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan
Tel: 603-20728807

Nanyang Art Supplies Sdn Bhd
136, Jalan Petaling, Kuala Lumpur
50000 Wilayah Persekutuan, Malaysia
Tel: 03-2078 7066

MINIATURE HOBBY
No.17, 1st Floor, Jalan 14/20,
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(above Sushi King)
Tel: 03-7960 1828

Hobby Hq Sdn Bhd
City Square T114 3Rd Floor 182
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Tel: 603-21622976

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Malaysia.
Tel: 603-89613686, 603-89613658,
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Hi guys,

would like to know where to purchase the puma air compressor at the stated price?
and where to get the rm80 brush as stated?

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Anyone interested in a complete airbrush package with compressor? I can also bundle a 16 colour Createx paints imported from US. PM me biggrin.gif
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what d price???


Added on June 10, 2008, 8:23 amhi all?? anyone knows how do I use air compressor (kedai bicyle) with AB???

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http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-08D...USH_KIT_Set.htm

this good for beginner? thanks biggrin.gif
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puma compressor review.
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Yesterday went to Graffiti Toys to ask about the price of AB set and they told me is about 600 to 700 and then went to Venus Art to ask AB set price and they told me is around 950. My question is, did any one buy AB set from Graffiti Toys, does it work well and what type of compressor they sell (with tank, auto-shutdown)?
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all compressor oso work well.. perharps other feature u interested wud be the noise level, availability of after-sales service.. etc???

can try hobbiescorner.com (local kl guy)
saw 1 unit of compressor unit, try search for it at ebay.com.my
standard one usually come with air/reservoir tank, auto-off switch, moisture trap and regulator should come around 650-700. without airtank shud be another 150 or more cheaper.

handpiece (AB) shud ranging fr 100-200
alternatively, the other hobby shop miniature hobby and Hobby HQ also carries compressor..

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i saw this airbrush at a local hobby store, and i was wondering is it any good? i just want a simple airbrush to paint, and reading from the stuff on tamiya's website this little thing complies with what i want. now i would just like to know if there are any owners of this airbrush can give their comments?


either that or recommend me a good place to get an airbrush with compressor within a budget of rm800 please





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If any1 wana buy used ABset Pls refer here

Tamiya Basic ABSET

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QUOTE(br0ther9630 @ Sep 12 2008, 04:30 PM)
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i saw this airbrush at a local hobby store, and i was wondering is it any good? i just want a simple airbrush to paint, and reading from the stuff on tamiya's website this little thing complies with what i want. now i would just like to know if there are any owners of this airbrush can give their comments?
either that or recommend me a good place to get an airbrush with compressor within a budget of rm800 please
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you can get a sparmax set for those price.... can purchase at venus art jalan petaling...
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all i can say is that that tamiya unit is really a "light-weight" kinda compressor.. and it's handpiece can't rili do u much favor.. u prob need another handpiece if u r rili into airbrushing..

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you can get a sparmax set for those price.... can purchase at venus art jalan petaling...
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does the set include the compressor too? and may i have the address of venus art?

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refer to this link

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/290518/+40

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Anybody used Mr Hobby airbrushes that can give comments? Would the airbrush fit into a Sparmax compressor, or is there a need to fiddle to get it to fit?
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Anybody know which shop or reseller in klang valley selling Iwata AB & compressor, does Iwata have AB & compressor kit for beginner, basically i want to get a AB set for my gunpla only, and since everybody is saying that iwata is a good choice and i dun mind to invest in it and can use it for couple of years on. i dunwan to buy a china brand now then later invest in some good brand again, would prefer a one time investment and take care of it. My budget would be around 500 - 800 only and i saw the Tamiya kit before in One Utama, after reading the post here n i think i m willing to invest a slightly more and get a better one. well , just some perception since everybody say iwata is good. can someone tell me where can i check out Iwata product in klang valley. any tips or maintenance of using AB from sifu would be highly appreciated.
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QUOTE(hclai @ Dec 16 2008, 02:39 AM)
Anybody know which shop or reseller in klang valley selling Iwata AB & compressor, does Iwata have AB & compressor kit for beginner, basically i want to get a AB set for my gunpla only, and since everybody is saying that iwata is a good choice and i dun mind to invest in it and can use it for couple of years on. i dunwan to buy a china brand now then later invest in some good brand again, would prefer a one time investment and take care of it. My budget would be around 500 - 800 only and i saw the Tamiya kit before in One Utama, after reading the post here n i think i m willing to invest a slightly more and get a better one. well , just some perception since everybody say iwata is good. can someone tell me where can i check out Iwata product in klang valley. any tips or maintenance of using AB from sifu would be highly appreciated.
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Anybody used Mr Hobby airbrushes that can give comments? Would the airbrush fit into a Sparmax compressor, or is there a need to fiddle to get it to fit?
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I do. The AB gun fits into the hose that came with the sparmax, no problems at all. The sparmax i got form venus art, the procon boy (or something like that - mr hobby calls them funny names wor) is a .3 and i got from AF.

QUOTE(hclai @ Dec 16 2008, 02:39 AM)
Anybody know which shop or reseller in klang valley selling Iwata AB & compressor, does Iwata have AB & compressor kit for beginner, basically i want to get a AB set for my gunpla only, and since everybody is saying that iwata is a good choice and i dun mind to invest in it and can use it for couple of years on. i dunwan to buy a china brand now then later invest in some good brand again, would prefer a one time investment and take care of it. My budget would be around 500 - 800 only and i saw the Tamiya kit before in One Utama, after reading the post here n i think i m willing to invest a slightly more and get a better one. well , just some perception since everybody say iwata is good. can someone tell me where can i check out Iwata product in klang valley. any tips or maintenance of using AB from sifu would be highly appreciated.
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Iwata local distributor tutup kedai d iinm.
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Iwata local distributor was an idiot.. totally idiot... if only they layan small2 buyer like us.... they just only want to take order when we orger more then 10... doh.gif
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agreed, i wanted to buy their mid range compressor they say cannot. MOQ tak sampai, so can only buy the cheapo iwata one doh.gif

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why iwata so lan si one ? lot of business opportunity u know, after one intro one.
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that's why they tutup kedai already... tongue.gif no business... doh.gif
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walao eh.. nice offer... cannot miss this one...
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The AB set in my country tongue.gif. Cost me about 70 USD tongue.gif. My country somehow, still have a little convenient tongue.gif.
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is there a posibility to get airbrush + mini compressor for less thn 700?

arnd that price...i have a fren who bought one for 500-600 and he says is real gud...


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possible... yup... look here...

http://www.touchdiy.com/webshaper/store/viewCat.asp?catID=68
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does it write its specifications?

if i wan an airbrush for gundam modelling...wad specifications do i wan? and wad do i need other thn the AB and compressor?


Added on January 1, 2009, 9:20 pmif i got the ones in touch diy, anyone can tell me isit gud?

and wad else do i need...?

hose,pipes?

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Guys I asked the question few years ago, I already have a Gunzo Airbrush, now I need a Compressor, Air Tank & A water filter.

Hoping to get them at reasonable price with good built quality with minimal maintenance.

The cheapest and only airtank i can find is an online hobby shop which cost rm150.

I heard Chinatown has some art shop but don't know the price. Like to have an idea on the pricing before i go in.
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QUOTE(zheyuen @ Dec 31 2008, 01:09 PM)
does it write its specifications?

if i wan an airbrush for gundam modelling...wad specifications do i wan? and wad do i need other thn the AB and compressor?


Added on January 1, 2009, 9:20 pmif i got the ones in touch diy, anyone can tell me isit gud?

and wad else do i need...?

hose,pipes?
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obviously u have either not equiped urself with much readings or unable to understand just by reading alone.

no worry. u just need to get some real modelling frens to show u the real thing.
i had many readings before i got my ab and compressor and stil get the wrong concept blush.gif


ab gun/handpiece
not really much thing u can choose except for the price u willing to pay for and brand.
other specs are quite standard line:
1) nozzle (0.2mm, 0.3mm, 0.5mm, 0.3mm being most commonly used, 0.2mm for spraying fine works and 0.5mm for broad area)
2) cup (cup size and cup location, on top, bottle feed, side feed, up to ur working and own preference)
3) single or double action

compressor
1) compressor/"engine" type: fridge type (round heavy black, and is expensif) or normal hobby type with metal heat sink cooling fins (looks like motorbike engine)
2) with or without airtank (with air tank u no need to worry about turning on and off, as the one wt airtank usually come with auto on-off switch)
3) pressure regulator and mositure trap (standard must get items)

pipe or hose, need to ask meh? when u buy compressor just make sure got attached hose, don have then get one lor.
nothingelse.
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QUOTE(erh_teo @ Jan 2 2009, 02:28 PM)
obviously u have either not equiped urself with much readings or unable to understand just by reading alone.

no worry. u just need to get some real modelling frens to show u the real thing.
i had many readings before i got my ab and compressor and stil get the wrong concept blush.gif
ab gun/handpiece
not really much thing u can choose except for the price u willing to pay for and brand.
other specs are quite standard line:
1) nozzle (0.2mm, 0.3mm, 0.5mm, 0.3mm being most commonly used, 0.2mm for spraying fine works and 0.5mm for broad area)
2) cup (cup size and cup location, on top, bottle feed, side feed, up to ur working and own preference)
3) single or double action

compressor
1) compressor/"engine" type: fridge type (round heavy black, and is expensif) or normal hobby type with metal heat sink cooling fins (looks like motorbike engine)
2) with or without airtank (with air tank u no need to worry about turning on and off, as the one wt airtank usually come with auto on-off switch)
3) pressure regulator and mositure trap (standard must get items)

pipe or hose, need to ask meh? when u buy compressor just make sure got attached hose, don have then get one lor.
nothingelse.
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are the pressure regulator wit the compressor too? and wads the use of moisture trap?

air tank?

the one in the touchdiy.com...the touchmedium, whch catergory does it fall into?

and lastly... wads the point of auto off ?
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hi...i wanted to sell my tamiya basic air brush wif compressor.Is brand new and never use be4.Anyone intrested PM me notworthy.gif
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ur compressor is which model, comes with water filter & air tank? Interested in the Compressor without air brush.
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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 3 2009, 12:37 AM)
ur compressor is which model, comes with water filter & air tank? Interested in the Compressor without air brush.
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i selling this kind....
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i think dis 1 is air tank
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and lastly... wads the point of auto off ?
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auto off...the compressor will shut down itself automatically lor when too hot.
how long will it take b4 auto off depends on the model.
or ur room temperature...put fan beside it mayb can stay longer laugh.gif
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PM me wat price u sell for d Tamiya Basic Compressor with Airbrush
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this one gud mar?

and is this promotion available if i buy str8 from him?
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You'll need at least the FilterTouch. The moisture trap will be important, unless you've got some other external moisture trap, like what I saw in another post in the garage sale.

These compressors do not have an air tank. It's recommended that you let it rest every 20-30min, and not let it overheat.
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my budget for compressor is around rm400
so isit ok if i get the TouchMedium instead of FilterTouch??

how much is a moisture trap?




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QUOTE(Ratatosk @ Jan 9 2009, 12:22 PM)
You'll need at least the FilterTouch. The moisture trap will be important, unless you've got some other external moisture trap, like what I saw in another post in the garage sale.

These compressors do not have an air tank. It's recommended that you let it rest every 20-30min, and not let it overheat.
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from what i read here, a gud compressor has moisture trap AND air tank.

am i missing anythng out?
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I have asked this question many times but nobody wanna answer. I try my last attemp to ask the same question:

Can those air pump/compressor 20-30psi sold in Hardware shop for rm50 be used to pump compressed air into airtank (with water filter), or even directly to airbrush?

I mean the price difference between these type and art shop type differs like 10 times. Any downside?


Added on January 14, 2009, 10:43 amAlso can someone direct me to the online shop in Malaysia that sells compressors & airtanks. I remember someone posted the one i wanted long time ago, then there's another online shop.

Please post both.

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gravity or suction is better with using 'not so called' a good compressor?
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gravity more ppl use for short term spray bah... but for large area spray normall ppl use suction type cuz it is bottled and can store more paint for longer spray time? =)
it has nothing to do with the compressor i guess...

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 14 2009, 10:33 AM)
I have asked this question many times but nobody wanna answer. I try my last attemp to ask the same question:

Can those air pump/compressor 20-30psi sold in Hardware shop for rm50 be used to pump compressed air into airtank (with water filter), or even directly to airbrush?

I mean the price difference between these type and art shop type differs like 10 times. Any downside?


Added on January 14, 2009, 10:43 amAlso can someone direct me to the online shop in Malaysia that sells compressors & airtanks. I remember someone posted the one i wanted long time ago, then there's another online shop.

Please post both.
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RM50 air pumps...never tried before. although i doubt it'll be able to provide a consistent output of air i.e. the pressure is constant at 10-15psi.

i believe u can find compressors being sold online at around rm450 to 500. those are usually without air tank. air tanks would cost a couple of hundreds more. u can try searching on lelong or ebay malaysia. if not, drop by the local hobby shops and ask. if u're really into the hobby, get urself into the local hobby forums. there're quite a few threads there that talk abt compressors and where to get them.
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I would like to ask where can I buy an affordable airbrush set for newbie. I heard that the there is an airbrush set by tamiya but I dunno where can I get it. Do anyone knows it?
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with the price of tamiya basic set.. you can purchase a better normal ab already....

try touchdiy website. or afhobby... or read the backpages for a place to purchase
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I have found one in lelong website which cost RM400 for the compressor and airbrush set. It is good enough?

The link is below:
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-02D...irbrush_Kit.htm

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Hey guys. Any idea where I can get a Moisture Trap? I tried Venus Art but they don't sell it -.-
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post Feb 19 2009, 07:55 PM

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got some forumer at garage sell it....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=878507&hl=

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QUOTE(steadyhia @ Feb 7 2009, 07:46 PM)
I have found one in lelong website which cost RM400 for the compressor and airbrush set. It is good enough?

The link is below:
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-02D...irbrush_Kit.htm
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this look enuf for biginner...tempting to get 1 too
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post Apr 6 2009, 12:47 PM

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Im gundam collector...but im only assemble that model kit and doing some lining.
for that new come gundam collector can any body give me some tips. like how to modify that thing such as painting to make my gundam more interesting.


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QUOTE(cktan27 @ Mar 31 2009, 06:04 PM)
this look enuf for biginner...tempting to get 1 too
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thanks for ur info...
if im interested. how im want t buy it..


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maybe u wanna drop ur questions here http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/703675/+1540

or read this (if u haven't):

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/488910
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post Apr 10 2009, 07:31 PM

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Hi Guys & Gals,

Where to get a good airbrush set? Is the Graffiti Toys selling good set or is better to buy from petaling street shops?
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post Jun 4 2009, 08:40 PM

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Hello,

Lately I've been dying to buy a compressor after trying to brush my kit and not very satisfied with the result.
But as a student I can't found a compressor cheaper than 500.

So when my brother went back to Jakarta, I asked him to buy me a compressor under 350 there.

and he got me a Nardi Silverstone 2 Compressor.

This is the link

I got it for 275RM. From the spec I think it's pretty cheap, but since I can't find any review of it, I don't know it noise level.

Anyway, I think if you had plan to go to Indonesia(Jakarta) make sure to stop by "Glodok" to find a slightly cheap compressor

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post Jun 5 2009, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(maxgil05 @ Apr 10 2009, 07:31 PM)
Hi Guys & Gals,

Where to get a good airbrush set? Is the Graffiti Toys selling good set or is better to buy from petaling street shops?
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u can go Vision Art in Sunway. It's one of the shops around One Academy. Ok...it's those shoplots next to Sunway Pyramid, nearby the police station there.

if not, try Hobby HQ...or go lelong those to check out
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post Jun 5 2009, 10:48 PM

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hi guy, do you know where to get airbrush compressor in kuching, Sarawak?
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post Jun 13 2009, 03:31 PM

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is the one in graffiti toys gud?

its around 500 ringgit but a fren of mine says his broke after two years...

some rubber ring came out or sumthng.
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anyone knows where can I get airbrush paint for metal / hard surface / models?
any Online Local Hobby Shop selling or any shop around KL / PJ? went to VA @ PSB, there is wide choice for fabrics but not others.

Just bought my airbrush set @ OLHS - www.hobbiescorner.com
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post Jul 1 2009, 09:33 AM

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hi everybody...

I need airbrush trainer for my training company
Anybody here ever done training for airbrush?
or would you recommend anyone you know that can give training for airbrush?


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:44 amhuahua...anybody knows any airbrush trainer...plzz...!!!uhuk2


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:53 am
QUOTE(terryykf @ Sep 8 2007, 11:59 PM)
how to say leh, i bought a compressor without regulator and moisture trap and its a 1/4" male output. i hope to use it in gundam spraying,anyone know how could i convert the output from 1/4" to 1/8"?


Added on September 9, 2007, 11:25 pmim finding the air flow regulator including the moisture trap along. anyonw know where to get it?


Added on September 16, 2007, 12:20 amgot my compressor,moisture trap with regulator and airbrush set. will start airbrush training tomorrow
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hey...where do u get the airbrush training?

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post Jul 1 2009, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(chikut @ Jun 30 2009, 07:08 PM)
anyone knows where can I get airbrush paint for metal / hard surface / models?
any Online Local Hobby Shop selling or any shop around KL / PJ? went to VA @ PSB, there is wide choice for fabrics but not others.

Just bought my airbrush set @ OLHS - www.hobbiescorner.com
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i believe hobbiescorner may stock paint. if not try msg2u.com or something like that. for local shops, you can try Hobby HQ in KL (Fraser Business Park). Hobby HQ has the most complete range of colors in KL at this point in time. Alternatively, try the toy shops in Berjaya Times Square.

These are for paints to be used on model kits, resin figures, etc. not for your usual metal stuff like grill, etc. those you can just buy from hardware shops. you won't want to buy a 10ml hobby paint that costs as much as a 100ml industrial paint to paint normal items. keep the hobby paints to hobby kits.


Added on July 1, 2009, 1:39 pm
QUOTE(videl_woohoo @ Jul 1 2009, 09:33 AM)
hi everybody...

I need airbrush trainer for my training company
Anybody here ever done training for airbrush?
or would you recommend anyone you know that can give training for airbrush?


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:44 amhuahua...anybody knows any airbrush trainer...plzz...!!!uhuk2


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:53 am
hey...where do u get the airbrush training?
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how in depth do you plan for this training? graphics use or hobby use? graphics use is much more complicated than your average joe trying to paint a model kit using airbrush. and if graphics use level...you may want to check out art schools like Lim Kok Wing, One Academy, etc. Although I believe airbrush is a dying art in design schools. Who needs brushes when u can photoshop like hell and then print out in color.

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post Jul 2 2009, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(davelcm @ Jul 1 2009, 01:36 PM)
i believe hobbiescorner may stock paint. if not try msg2u.com or something like that. for local shops, you can try Hobby HQ in KL (Fraser Business Park). Hobby HQ has the most complete range of colors in KL at this point in time. Alternatively, try the toy shops in Berjaya Times Square.

These are for paints to be used on model kits, resin figures, etc. not for your usual metal stuff like grill, etc. those you can just buy from hardware shops. you won't want to buy a 10ml hobby paint that costs as much as a 100ml industrial paint to paint normal items. keep the hobby paints to hobby kits.


Added on July 1, 2009, 1:39 pm
Frazer Business Park? Was it before the F&N Factory? opposite of it is Pudu English Secondary School?
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it's the old F&N factory. They've changed it into office lots. That's Fraser Business Park. Hobby HQ is on the 1st floor. Ground floor is empty lot but beside it is a big red sign saying HILTI.
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QUOTE(ntc3freak @ Jul 17 2006, 06:30 PM)
just came back from tuition n my friend said this saturday will go to Petaling Street to look at Venus Artwork.maybe i can search for myself,but just look around lah just in case i don't go.as for compressor,i dun noe,i think just need a Moisture trap (surely they'll have it).btw,what are u guys gonna use the airbrush for???
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I wanna use it to repaint diecast toy cars, will it produce the acceptable results? Diecast cars are much smaller in size compared to Gundam figures, not sure whether it gives satisfactory results?
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i have a airbrush set that i wanna let go..
including the air compressor..
anyone who is interested.. do let me know..

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