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post Mar 31 2014, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 31 2014, 06:07 PM)
l see, guess gonna pain my wallet for 240gb  doh.gif cant buy ram after this  sweat.gif
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well yeah that's the most common constraint :/

however, i still think it's worth while to save a bit more to get 240-256GB range. that range is the sweet spot for now imo. (much better performance compared to 120GB drives)

edit: bf4's 3rd dlc is released. downloading now. that makes the whole game about 40GB now biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by horns: Mar 31 2014, 06:32 PM
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post Mar 31 2014, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 31 2014, 06:23 PM)
well yeah that's the most common constraint :/

however, i still think it's worth while to save a bit more to get 240-256GB range. that range is the sweet spot for now imo. (much better performance compared to 120GB drives)
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Superstition: l suppose ssd keep your system healthy also? my rig build in april 2013, suffering from totally random bsod/freezing all the while, my gf pc with a ssd build earlier than mine doesnt really have this kind of issue icon_question.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 31 2014, 06:34 PM)
Superstition: l suppose ssd keep your system healthy also? my rig build in april 2013, suffering from totally random bsod/freezing all the while, my gf pc with a ssd build earlier than mine doesnt really have this kind of issue  icon_question.gif
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not really lol! it depends on many factors, including hardware, drivers, OS, and your usage haha!

edit: crucial has released new firmware update MU05 for m500.

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post Mar 31 2014, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 31 2014, 06:57 PM)
not really lol! it depends on many factors, including hardware, drivers, OS, and your usage haha!
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tried diagnose my hardware, psu out, cpu out, ram out, hdd out, last possibility is OS, oh well, new ssd new OS nod.gif pray no more bsod/freezing
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post Mar 31 2014, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 31 2014, 07:10 PM)
tried diagnose my hardware, psu out, cpu out, ram out, hdd out, last possibility is OS, oh well, new ssd new OS  nod.gif pray no more bsod/freezing
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yeah it's very likely the OS, or drivers, or apps hehe
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post Mar 31 2014, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 31 2014, 05:15 PM)
l suppose 120gb is enough for me, sry gonna ask some silly question, why 240gb?  laugh.gif l mean any significant difference from getting a 240gb instead of 120gb one?
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not a silly question, its one of the most commonly asked as well

cause SSD benefits when you leave a certain % of space available inside the drive. say you have a 120GB, you leave 15-20% space left available in the drive, this helps to keep the SSD retain its top speed or be consistent in performance (not sure am i explaining this right :/) if you hog it down to less then 10%, your SSD performance will drop and youll start to notice things arent as zippy anymore

for my case 120GB, i have to leave about 15-20GB free which if you look from this way
>120GB full cap
>111GB after format
>Windows 8.1 is est 20-30GB taken
>then add in drivers, other essential items (up to 5GB)
>i left.. 80GB+
>throw in a game, (games these days are huge) and youre already reaching the 20GB limit sad.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Mar 31 2014, 08:12 PM)
not a silly question, its one of the most commonly asked as well

cause SSD benefits when you leave a certain % of space available inside the drive. say you have a 120GB, you leave 15-20% space left available in the drive, this helps to keep the SSD retain its top speed or be consistent in performance (not sure am i explaining this right :/) if you hog it down to less then 10%, your SSD performance will drop and youll start to notice things arent as zippy anymore

for my case 120GB, i have to leave about 15-20GB free which if you look from this way
>120GB full cap
>111GB after format
>Windows 8.1 is est 20-30GB taken
>then add in drivers, other essential items (up to 5GB)
>i left.. 80GB+
>throw in a game, (games these days are huge) and youre already reaching the 20GB limit sad.gif
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yeah leaving unallocated space helps (i.e. over provisioning). again, this depends on usage. 10% should be good enough for normal use (imo leaving too much space unallocated is a waste)

i have to stress the effects of ssd slowing down is not like immediately. it will slow down with time (but usually many months later). you can minimize this effect by leaving it idle for a few hours to do garbage collection during weekends (i.e. just leave it alone. it will do its job to regain performance). by the time you think your drive is slow to an unacceptable level, just wipe it clean, do a secure erase and start over.

so, use the drive normally, like hdd, and don't worry so much smile.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 31 2014, 08:50 PM)
yeah leaving unallocated space helps (i.e. over provisioning). again, this depends on usage. 10% should be good enough for normal use (imo leaving too much space unallocated is a waste)

i have to stress the effects of ssd slowing down is not like immediately. it will slow down with time (but usually many months later). you can minimize this effect by leaving it idle for a few hours to do garbage collection during weekends (i.e. just leave it alone. it will do its job to regain performance). by the time you think your drive is slow to an unacceptable level, just wipe it clean, do a secure erase and start over.

so, use the drive normally, like hdd, and don't worry so much smile.gif
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yep

but best still dont go overboard, just leave it as precaution nod.gif
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post Mar 31 2014, 10:12 PM

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Even l got habit to uninstall games after l finish it, it still takes up 300gb on my hdd sweat.gif what if l use hdd as OS, ssd plain gaming, waste? brows.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Mar 31 2014, 10:12 PM)
Even l got habit to uninstall games after l finish it, it still takes up 300gb on my hdd sweat.gif what if l use hdd as OS, ssd plain gaming, waste? brows.gif
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it's pointless because you can only save like 20gb of space. (half the size of one new game?) with hdd, you can do that by using hibernate to speed up the access to windows but that only solve boot time issue of windows, other apps are still slow. (well, unless of course your apps are all games biggrin.gif)
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post Apr 1 2014, 09:37 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 1 2014, 12:25 AM)
it's pointless because you can only save like 20gb of space. (half the size of one new game?) with hdd, you can do that by using hibernate to speed up the access to windows but that only solve boot time issue of windows, other apps are still slow. (well, unless of course your apps are all games biggrin.gif)
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My rig mainly for gaming only, no other apps needed brows.gif guess l would still need to go 250gb, enjoy a while 1st before purchase a 2nd one nod.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 31 2014, 07:23 PM)
well yeah that's the most common constraint :/

however, i still think it's worth while to save a bit more to get 240-256GB range. that range is the sweet spot for now imo. (much better performance compared to 120GB drives)

edit: bf4's 3rd dlc is released. downloading now. that makes the whole game about 40GB now biggrin.gif
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Titanfall require 59.6G to install... laugh.gif
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post Apr 1 2014, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(ReverseDark @ Apr 1 2014, 09:37 AM)
My rig mainly for gaming only, no other apps needed brows.gif guess l would still need to go 250gb, enjoy a while 1st before purchase a 2nd one nod.gif
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ok lol!

QUOTE(storm88 @ Apr 1 2014, 10:26 AM)
Titanfall require 59.6G to install... laugh.gif
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that's heavy.

bf4 + titan fall take up 100gb space; os+drivers around 20gb: disk full dy for 120gb :/
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post Apr 2 2014, 06:42 AM

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Guys, how is the Transcend SSD340 128GB at RM275?
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post Apr 2 2014, 09:46 AM

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does anyone hear of anything regarding the availability and price tags of crucial m550 in Malaysia? (2.5", msata)
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post Apr 2 2014, 10:02 AM

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i am comparing intel 530 with samsung evo. Which moderl is better?
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post Apr 2 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(kop2299 @ Apr 2 2014, 10:02 AM)
i am comparing intel 530 with samsung evo. Which moderl is better?
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unless you look for specific answers related to your use case, evo ftw for common usage.

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post Apr 2 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 2 2014, 10:46 AM)
does anyone hear of anything regarding the availability and price tags of crucial m550 in Malaysia? (2.5", msata)
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M550 avail by next week. Price level RM3xx
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post Apr 2 2014, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(storm88 @ Apr 2 2014, 11:03 AM)
M550 avail by next week. Price level RM3xx
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sweet and thanks a lot for this info smile.gif looking forward to getting some locally. (crucial.com started selling them online)
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post Apr 3 2014, 09:10 AM

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just wta, is it more better cost/efficient to go 32gb ram then set it up as RAM drive than getting a 128gb ssd?
curious as a forumer said ram drive will be much better since ssd if 'you are rich'. hmm.gif

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