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post Apr 3 2014, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 3 2014, 09:10 AM)
just wta, is it more better cost/efficient to go 32gb ram then set it up as RAM drive than getting a 128gb ssd?
curious as a forumer said ram drive will be much better since ssd if 'you are rich'.  hmm.gif
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good question. a simple answer is no, in terms of cost effectiveness. say you have 32gb of ram, the most you can do is to create a 24gb ramdisk, provided that 8gb is good enough for your usage. so how much is 24gb of ram? for now it's MYR 900 roughly. with that money you can get a decent 256gb ssd easily. 24gb vs. 256gb. it's obvious.

a ramdisk is useful when you do have a lot of ram. the only problem with it is the sudden power loss.

imo a better system is to ensure you can make full use of the hardware resources that it has, leveraging on strengths of each component. for a system with ssd, a good amount of ram, and uninterrupted power supply (i.e. laptops or pc with UPS), it's good to have a ramdisk like the following:
1. OS drive - ssd;
2. apps/games - ssd;
3. data - hdd, this is still the cheapest option as data storage;
4. temporary reads/writes folders, scratch disk, browser cache, etc. stuff which are essential to have but are safe to discard when you shut your computer down - ramdisk.

since ramdisk has strengths like being the fastest of all in terms of data read/writes, and almost indestructible no matter how many times you write to it, it's good to have some to house at least user-level temporary folders/files and web browser cache. (even a small one, e.g. 2gb, can help a lot).

since you have moved almost all high write/erase operations from ssd to ramdisk, it helps to reduce write/erase cycles in ssd, thus help prolong the lifespan of your ssd too.

.. and this is not about rich or not, you can even do this to a 3k laptop which has a 8gb of ram.
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post Apr 3 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 3 2014, 01:07 PM)
good question. a simple answer is no, in terms of cost effectiveness. say you have 32gb of ram, the most you can do is to create a 24gb ramdisk, provided that 8gb is good enough for your usage. so how much is 24gb of ram? for now it's MYR 900 roughly. with that money you can get a decent 256gb ssd easily. 24gb vs. 256gb. it's obvious.

a ramdisk is useful when you do have a lot of ram. the only problem with it is the sudden power loss.

imo a better system is to ensure you can make full use of the hardware resources that it has, leveraging on strengths of each component. for a system with ssd, a good amount of ram, and uninterrupted power supply (i.e. laptops or pc with UPS), it's good to have a ramdisk like the following:
1. OS drive - ssd;
2. apps/games - ssd;
3. data - hdd, this is still the cheapest option as data storage;
4. temporary reads/writes folders, scratch disk, browser cache, etc. stuff which are essential to have but are safe to discard when you shut your computer down - ramdisk.

since ramdisk has strengths like being the fastest of all in terms of data read/writes, and almost indestructible no matter how many times you write to it, it's good to have some to house at least user-level temporary folders/files and web browser cache. (even a small one, e.g. 2gb, can help a lot).

since you have moved almost all high write/erase operations from ssd to ramdisk, it helps to reduce write/erase cycles in ssd, thus help prolong the lifespan of your ssd too.

.. and this is not about rich or not, you can even do this to a 3k laptop which has a 8gb of ram.
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tqvm for sharing your knowledge. this is a good insight of ramdisk and ssd. notworthy.gif
eager to try it out on my pc later tonight.
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post Apr 3 2014, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(sai86 @ Apr 3 2014, 01:42 PM)
tqvm for sharing your knowledge. this is a good insight of ramdisk and ssd.  notworthy.gif
eager to try it out on my pc later tonight.
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that's what we all should do here: to share haha!

i suggest you try softperfect ramdisk; free for personal use, simple, you can create ramdisk of unlimited size with it, you can re-adjust ram disk when you need more system ram, and i think it's one of the fastest.
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post Apr 5 2014, 02:32 AM

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My 3-weeks old SSD has a total nand writes of 452GB so far. Is this normal? Seems kinda high to me.

It's an O/S drive with 2-3 games installed and the usual web surfing.
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QUOTE(btfan @ Apr 5 2014, 02:32 AM)
My 3-weeks old SSD has a total nand writes of 452GB so far. Is this normal? Seems kinda high to me.

It's an O/S drive with 2-3 games installed and the usual web surfing.
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Normal. Copying OS, moving Files, Installing games etc...

All my SSD few 10-20tbs etc...


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post Apr 5 2014, 09:28 PM

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is d samsung 840 evo msata here yet?
coz I see all d garage sales r selling d 2.5" one onli...
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Apr 5 2014, 09:28 PM)
is d samsung 840 evo msata here yet?
coz I see all d garage sales r selling d 2.5" one onli...
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not really. perhaps you should pm ronaldjoe to see if he can get one for you.
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:57 PM

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any shop selling samsung evo 840 250gb in digital and can help me install in my gt60?
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post Apr 7 2014, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(liwei92 @ Apr 6 2014, 11:57 PM)
any shop selling samsung evo 840 250gb in digital and can help me install in my gt60?
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you can grab it in digital (mall?). it's available in many shops there. however, due to the warranty policy of msi laptops, i think it's best that you consult msi service center for this.
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post Apr 7 2014, 10:50 AM

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Currently 240GB crucial m500 drop to $465 vs Samsung Evo 250GB $545.
Which 1 better to go in terms of reliability and value? Is there any speed difference in real life environment? 1st time wanna use ssd.
M500 price is very tempting now.
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post Apr 7 2014, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(kop2299 @ Apr 7 2014, 10:50 AM)
Currently 240GB crucial m500 drop to $465 vs Samsung Evo 250GB $545.
Which 1 better to go in terms of reliability and value? Is there any speed difference in real life environment? 1st time wanna use ssd.
M500 price is very tempting now.
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for the 120-240gb range, crucial m500 is kind of low in performance compared to your samsung choice (due to less optimized use of 128gb nand, instead of usual 64gb. this was fixed in new m550 for the similar range).

so in terms of speed and value, imo the samsung drive has more advantages. for common usage samsung drive should be reliable. we have seen many adopted it while seldom read complaints about it.
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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 7 2014, 04:25 PM)
for the 120-240gb range, crucial m500 is kind of low in performance compared to your samsung choice (due to less optimized use of 128gb nand, instead of usual 64gb. this was fixed in new m550 for the similar range).

so in terms of speed and value, imo the samsung drive has more advantages. for common usage samsung drive should be reliable. we have seen many adopted it while seldom read complaints about it.
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Thank you very much bro for your sharing. I did some research online and think will go for EVO.
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post Apr 7 2014, 05:59 PM

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just fyi, for the 480-960gb of crucial m500, they are still good. in fact, if it's for common usage only (and you have some spares), you should also consider 480-960gb, as the price tags for them will likely be adjusted also.

with new waves of ssd releases in the coming months, hopefully we will have more options to pick from.
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post Apr 8 2014, 01:26 AM

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which enclosure should i buy? i need to transfer old hdd to my ssd .

http://www.lelong.com.my/rock-usb3-0-3-5-s...7-01-Sale-I.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/hotway-probox-usb...4-04-Sale-P.htm
http://www.lelong.com.my/archgon-enclosure...4-05-Sale-P.htm
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post Apr 10 2014, 01:03 PM

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whats the price for samsung 840 pro series?
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post Apr 10 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Apr 10 2014, 01:03 PM)
whats the price for samsung 840 pro series?
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you can ask ronaldjoe.
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post Apr 11 2014, 08:34 AM

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anyone having flashing Intel 530 using Intel SSD Toolbox?
i keep getting error 19 when flashing...
any idea how to fix it?
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post Apr 12 2014, 12:58 AM

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no prob so far in my case hmm.gif

latest 3.2.1 Intel SSD Toolbox and firmware
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post Apr 19 2014, 09:06 AM

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Samsung 840 Pro review against its Big Brother in enterprise use SSD; overall it held up very well as it was originally meant for laptops/ PCs originally:
http://www.storagereview.com/samsung_ssd_8...rise_ssd_review
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post Apr 19 2014, 02:26 PM

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Anyone bought SSD from amazon?
Is Crucial's warranty international? Or I have to bear the expenses to send back to USA?
What abt Intel? International warranty means can settle in MY?

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