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post Apr 6 2006, 01:01 AM, updated 5y ago

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Why Choose CAL-LAB Lightning Isolator?
A Malaysian Invention and World's FIRST Lightning Isolator Patented In The USA
Patented technique really works & it has verifiable viable technology
Lifetime Warranty (According Cal-Lab LLSWA)
Sold Nearly 1,000,000 units since 1995
Near-Prefect Track Records
Reasonable Pricing


Why is CAL-LAB Lightning Isolator Different From Ordinary Surge Protector
To be granted a US Patent, the invention must be NEW & DIFFERENT, so Lightning Isolator is new (Arrestor is not new!)
CLLI isolates you (the user) & your equipment from powerful lightning surges, so you & your equipment are safer

Patents Granted
US Patent #5675468 China Patent #ZL95 118324.9 Malaysia Patent #111139-A

Honors & Awards
Malaysia Book Of Records 2000 Who's Who in science & Enginerring USA 1999
MSC-APICTA merit award 1999 MINDS-Excellence in inventing awards 1996
GENEVA 1995 Ministry of Science, Techonology & The Environment 1995 MINDEX 1993

Other Tests & Approvals
Registered trademark SIRIM-EMC SIRIM-Type approval IVAT TEST

Video Clips
The Difference of Cal-Lab Lightning Isolator - 1.0mb YouTube
The Inventor and Introduction(1) - 4.3mb YouTube
The Inventor and Introduction(2) - 2.5mb YouTube
The Inventor and Introduction(3) - 0.6mb YouTube
Product Introduction(1) - 3.6mb YouTube
Product Introduction(2) - 0.5mb YouTube
CLLI on TV2 - 4.3mb YouTube
CLLI on TV3 - 9.3mb YouTube


Common Installation
ADSL setup FaceBook
Unifi setup FaceBook
Powerline Networking aka HomePlug FaceBook
Satellite TV FaceBook
Network Copier FaceBook
PABX / Keyphone FaceBook


The Danger of Lightning Strike Case 1 | Case 2

Lightning Rod Failed To Protect Building Case 3

The Danger of TNB Over Voltage Page 1 | Page 2
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How To Protect Your House And Its Contents From Lightning
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post Apr 6 2006, 01:04 AM

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post Apr 6 2006, 01:05 AM

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YEah, SUpport Cal-lab product...
I bought one for my astro on recent CNY at RM 14X. XX, here cheap, I got Cheat by the astro man......

Anyway, planning to get some more to protect my 2 Desktop PC + 1 Laptop PC + 3 printer + 1 ADSL router + 1 phoneline.
Now waiting the Telco guys come to install the phone and Streamyx which I already applied for more than 1 months.......

Give Me some suggestion on which product(s) you think good for above protection..... THX. PM me.......:thumb:
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QUOTE(jayoscar @ Apr 6 2006, 03:35 PM)
YEah, SUpport Cal-lab product...
I bought one for my astro on recent CNY at RM 14X. XX, here cheap, I got Cheat by the astro man......

Anyway, planning to get some more to protect my 2 Desktop PC + 1 Laptop PC + 3 printer + 1 ADSL router + 1 phoneline.
Now waiting the Telco guys come to install the phone and Streamyx which I already applied for more than 1 months.......

Give Me some suggestion on which product(s) you think good for above protection..... THX.    PM me.......:thumb:
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is it all unit will be placed at the same place/room?
pls list the units u may plug together...

Edit: i got my streamxy within 48hrs from my agent, it listed my signature thumbup.gif

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lol....i just bought cal-lab SP9201-DAF 2 weeks ago... doh.gif
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post Apr 9 2006, 04:02 AM

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nice pricing thumbup.gif
quite affordable

might get one soon tongue.gif

but i think its easier if u put the price together wif the pic sweat.gif
have a hard time scrolling up and down laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Apr 9 2006, 12:44 AM)
lol....i just bought cal-lab SP9201-DAF 2 weeks ago... doh.gif
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get another device for double protection... tongue.gif

pls mind tat the sp9201 only protect ur telephone line, still hv the possible that lightning surge come from power line to burn ur pc, monitor, printer, modem... etc...

pls grounding the sp9201 with good wire to avoid sp9201 get burn

QUOTE(broken_string @ Apr 9 2006, 04:02 AM)
nice pricing thumbup.gif
quite affordable

might get one soon tongue.gif

but i think its easier if u put the price together wif the pic sweat.gif
have a hard time scrolling up and down laugh.gif
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i try to improve the interfaces... thanx for ur feedback smile.gif

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How much is STV9922-MX ?
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post Apr 11 2006, 02:23 PM

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How much is STV9922-MX ?
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my office facing difficulty to find the price for stv9922, becasue was not a hot cake then not listed in price list... will PM u the price later... smile.gif
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hi, how much is the cal-lab skpx module ?
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QUOTE(whitelabel @ Apr 12 2006, 02:09 PM)
hi, how much is the cal-lab skpx module ?
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post Apr 15 2006, 12:58 PM

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i apologize to miliardo83 and CooBra that i cant COD to them ytday which i promised them...

because the HQ requested the office ytday to return the all of the SF9512-DSL stocks that available in storeroom, they need to modified the current SF9512-DSL to support the TMnet's higher boardband speed, they perhaps will launch the 2mbps speed or adsl2 connection soon.... in order to satisfy the cal-lab users and reduce the complaint, office forced to return stock and cant COD...

actually i can get the current SF9512-DSL for miliardo83 and CooBra ytday, but i hope wont get compaint from them and can get higher speed of broadband when using it, so i postponed the COD... hope they can like Cal-Lab products as well

The modified SF9512-DSL will be arrive the office when monday(17-04)... i will COD when monday... cheers...

Note: any1 purchase the SF9512-DSL from any outlets now, 99% was not the modified version... bcos the modified version will arrived on next mon to our office showroom tongue.gif

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very nice product ... love it very much , meet the inventor and talked to him in Pusat Sains Negara few years back , he got few awards and were showing off his technology there ...
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post Apr 16 2006, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Apr 15 2006, 03:11 PM)
very nice product ... love it very much , meet the inventor and talked to him  in Pusat Sains Negara few years back , he got few awards and were showing off his technology there ...
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i talked with him last mon also, i impressed that he keep upgrade his cal-lab product according the market needs such as the coming soon SF9512, he try give the best products for us but same amount of money... he also provided me a lot of information abt his product also, all knowledge was thumbup.gif So i can give u all accurate infomation as u need...

plus i think he almost 60 yrs old, he know how to using PDA to check his company email, look like he know avthings... notworthy.gif

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Excellent product. Bought it 2-3 years ago and it has never failed to protect my electronics (mainly pc, modem and some other stuff). What's more is that it is still working fine even after all the zapping from zeus.

Highly recommended to anyone who is looking for a good lightning protector.

Cheers for the good product. Keep it up.
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whats the difference between SLAN1236 and SCSD9623 besides the price?
Im looking to protect my data/Lan cable, will these models do the job ?
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whats the difference between SLAN1236 and SCSD9623 besides the price?
Im looking to protect my data/Lan cable, will these models do the job ?
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SLAN is confrimed use on ethernet cable (UTP)...
according my information that i gained, the SCSD9623 is use on telephone system(analog)...

will confrim u tomolo wat the difference between them, i will go to office check the stock and phone cal-lab engineer also smile.gif

but pls make in mind tat the power line can bring the surge as well although rare to happen... smile.gif

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Dear Gan

Having just read all the postings here, I must say I am very proud to have you on board as CAL-LAB Authorised Participating Coordinator.

I am very impressed with your initiative and active participation at this Low Yat Forum and most importantly, for your openess and honest answers to enquiries here. Indeed, we are keeping abreast of the latest developments and are constantly upgrading our products to ensure customers and their equipment are safe.

Gan, keep up the excellent work. You have our full support.

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To all users of CAL-LAB Lightning Isolators who commented here...

Thank you very much for your support and positive feedback. sweat.gif

Whenever you are at CentrePoint, BU, do drop by our office -- coffee on us! smile.gif

If you require other CLLI products to protect your IT / AV and home appliances, do support our young Cal-Lab Authorised Participating Coordinator Gan (aka gkl83) here rclxms.gif

Cheers and God bless each and everyone of you.

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Complete Solutions for Your Peace of Mind, visit http://www.cal-lab.com
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Hi gkl83,

Got a short question to ask ya. I have a unit of SF9512 which I use for my PC + modem with streamyx connection. Been using it for many years and working fine all this while, but lately, if the phone lines were to go thru the CLLI, my modem's DSL light will blink and it will never be a steady light.

This would mean that my modem is not able to synchronize with the DSLAM port. However, if I were to plug direct the telephone line to my modem
(without going thru the CLLI), the connection will work.

Any idea what is causing this? Does this mean the cal lab SF9512 unit is faulty and needs to be replaced/serviced? Would appreciate your reply or opinion regarding this issue. Thanks!




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perhaps u can try to plug the telephone line into the SF9512, try to make a call to ur hp or anywhere... if u not able to make any call thru it, so is the SF9512 telephone port dead and mostly cause by ligthning...

pls bring a long ur damaged unit to our showroom or bring it to me with addtional RM25 charges (actual price was RM79), we will exchange another new working unit for u...
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perhaps u can try to plug the telephone line into the SF9512, try to make a call to ur hp or anywhere... if u not able to make any call thru it, so is the SF9512 telephone port dead and mostly cause by ligthning...

pls bring a long ur damaged unit to our showroom or bring it to me with addtional RM25 charges (actual price was RM79), we will exchange another new working unit for u...
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I am able to make voice calls if the telephone line is plugged into the SF9512, just that for the streamyx connection, it does not work. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(maviko @ Apr 20 2006, 09:08 AM)
I am able to make voice calls if the telephone line is plugged into the SF9512, just that for the streamyx connection, it does not work.  unsure.gif
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hm... actually u placed the adsl filter b4 plug into sf9512? jz want to ensure only... smile.gif can u try the sf9512 on ur fren's streamyx which near ur house...

because i afraid later u come to our showroom to exchange but it working on our office's streamyx sweat.gif

we look serious on customer's feedback and will forward ur msg to inventor, tell the HQ site to make improvement, so guys can get the great product in the future cool.gif

Note: we forwarded ur feedback to HQ there, so pls wait for the technical supporting department to reply what they can do on ur unit... thanx


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pls tell me what equpiments u gonna to protect...


i have to network equipment interlink'd which each other via cat5 cable. both equipment were damaged by lighning strike a month ago. the surge came from the cat5 links. So i was wondering if these units could do the job. let me know
pls specific ur whole set of pc equipments, plenty of networking equpiment now... tat why cal-lab designed various models for suit with any requirements
example:
telephone -> modem router -> switch -> pc(s)
also tell me the distance between those equipments as well...

but if u want only to protect the cat5 cable, not too recommended u bcos the power surge will come from power line also... i hope u can 99.9% protected by using the proper cal-lab products... bcos i need detail info from u is give u the best recommendation and make sure u will not buy wrong products... smile.gif
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Hi gkl83,

Interested in the SF9512DSL model. Can I connect an extension cord with 5 x 13A sso to the above? The total load will be less than 1Kw (2 computers, 1 DSL router modem and 2 monitors). If yes, what is the max. distance between the extension sso and SF9512 outlet? Can COD near OUG area?

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Hi gkl83,

Interested in the SF9512DSL model. Can I connect an extension cord with 5 x 13A sso to the above? The total load will be less than 1Kw (2 computers, 1 DSL router modem and 2 monitors). If yes, what is the max. distance between the extension sso and SF9512 outlet? Can COD near OUG area?

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FYI, the SF9512 total max current was 5A... it able to provide enough current for all ur application from extension cord...

i gained the calculation from HERE... if not misunderstanding to apply the rules... tongue.gif
Volt: 240
Amp: 5
Watt: 1200 (result)

recommended locate ur extension which gained power from SF9512 within 3-5meters, because the longer of the cable (powerline &telephone line) the chances to absord the static from ligthing will higher...

but it is fine tat have a big gap distance between SF9512 and wall power socket, the static is outside the SF9512 protection boundary, wont harm ur pc...so better that SF9512 located near ur pc system, shorter cable will have lower chances to create static into cable... smile.gif

i will try to COD around the Jalan Kelang Lama... do u have other places tat u can COD also?

question: wat ur means for SSO?

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SSO means switched socket outlet. Don't mind collecting in Jln. Kelang Lama. Pl. pm me the time and date. Tomorrow may not be possible as I am going to Mid-valley. Home decor exibition there.
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How is SF9512DSL-MS2+3 connected. Is there 2 power socket bases? Any discount? Can you COD in ex-Hong Kong shopping centre (Pearl Point)?
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How is SF9512DSL-MS2+3 connected. Is there 2 power socket bases? Any discount? Can you COD in ex-Hong Kong shopping centre (Pearl Point)?
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yup...
SF9512 MS2+3 hv 2 power socket base...
SF9512 hv 1 power socket base...

wat time u will available at Midvalley? perhaps i can COD for u at there when evening...
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Hi gkl83,

Thanks for delivery in Mid-valley. Connected up and working ok. Don't worry about the yellow base. The whole isolator goes under my table anyway.

Very good bulk supplier.
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Hi gkl83,

Thanks for delivery in Mid-valley. Connected up and working ok. Don't worry about the yellow base. The whole isolator goes under my table anyway.

Very good bulk supplier.
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thanx for ur understanding... i tried my best to find the pure white color for u, but all stocks is the same, have the bit yellowish color... sigh...

if unsatisfied anything, pls provide me ur feedback, i will forward it directly to cal-lab's CEO for u... smile.gif
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do you have anything with 4 sockets, 1 cat5e, 1 phone. i need for my office. expect to buy about 50 units. hope can get the best price
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do you have anything with 4 sockets, 1 cat5e, 1 phone. i need for my office. expect to buy about 50 units. hope can get the best price
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cal-lab dont have such designed product yet, it is difficult to design a product can support for different devices (cat5 and phone)... so hv to buy separately...

if u expected to use a product for modem too, the maximum number power socket only have 2 X 3pin and 3 X 2pin... but u can plug multi socket on to cal-lab devices, but u must ensure tat only cal-lab devices gain the power from wall socket only...

i quote the equipment for u, several option for u...

option1
SD-4C (RM76) : use for each pc and each lan cable, only support 5A current
SP9201 (RM29) : use for each telephone analogue line only

option2
SLAN1236 (RM36) : use for each lan cable
SF9812 (RM76) : use for each pc and each telephone and fax machine, only support 5A current

option3
SLMS4 (RM68) : use for pc 4 power socket power line, but can support 13A
SP9201 (RM29) : use for each telephone line
SLAN1236 (RM36) : use for each lan cable

if 50 unit i can go to ur office to assemble for u, have a proper installation for u and price negotiable... smile.gif where is ur places... perhaps i can go to ur office have a look 1st before take the stock for u... and i can take a unit from each of them 1st let ur pc to try out the performance before u buy large quantity...

but if u need the multi extension socket, i can try to contact the hardware shop which near by cal-lab office, get bulk price for u...

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i'm looking for integrated. but dont mind if you have any product that have at least 3 sockets power & 1 LAN
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QUOTE(earlneo @ May 7 2006, 03:35 PM)
i'm looking for integrated. but dont mind if you have any product that have at least 3 sockets power & 1 LAN
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FYI, we dont have such products multisocket + lan (RJ45) designed yet, but we only have SF9512MS2+3 which got multisocket + modem (RJ11), so the only best option now for u is SD-4C, but only 1 power socket. but i will forward ur request to HQ to check whether the got customized version available yet, otherwise depend on them whether they can design new products for u but will time consuming...

actually plug ordinary multi power socket on cal-lab devices wont effect the protection level, cal-lab devices still able to protect the equipments which plugged on the multi power socket with proper installation...

hope my reply can satisfy u... smile.gif

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Hey, recommend something for this usage:

laptop + mp3 player charging + modem (internal - my laptop) + desktop + printer + speakers.

Thanks man! smile.gif

edit: I don't think I need that many sockets sweat.gif

About 1 for phone line and 3 or 4 sockets enough lar. I need something that can ensure my laptop would be protectod under whatever circumstances. Especially via the phone line coz I've been told that the phone line is the most common source of power overload.

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Hey, recommend something for this usage:

laptop + mp3 player charging + modem (internal - my laptop) + desktop + printer + speakers.

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Plenty of pc equipments man... tongue.gif

SF9512DSL MS2+3 will work for u... it got 2*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
3pin (1): desktop
3pin (2): laptop

2pin (1): printer
2pin (2): speaker
2pin (3): (perhaps for ur mp3 charger if it was 2pin)
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Wow. Very prompt reply smile.gif

Anyway, I've edited my post. None of my equipment is a two pin actually sweat.gif

The most slot you have for that particular model (the 3 pin one) is 2 is it?

If that's the case, can I connect another extension cord to it and thus, increase the amount of slots I have? Would the lightning isolation be as effetive if I were to do that?

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QUOTE(marquis @ May 9 2006, 07:44 PM)
Wow. Very prompt reply smile.gif

Anyway, I've edited my post. None of my equipment is a two pin actually sweat.gif

The most slot you have for that particular model (the 3 pin one) is 2 is it?

If that's the case, can I connect another extension cord to it and thus, increase the amount of slots I have? Would the lightning isolation be as effetive if I were to do that?

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Question : The most slot you have for that particular model (the 3 pin one) is 2 is it?
Answer : Yes

FYI, there dun have any problem by plug the extension cord to increase to slots, wont decrease the effective level of the cal-lab devices

jz ensure tat all of the power sources and telephone line must pass thru the cal-lab device before the source reach ur equipments...

u have 2 options
SF9512DSL (RM68) - only have 1*3pin power socket, but u can plug extension cord
SF9512DSL MS2+3 (RM76) - u only can use 2*3pin power socket since u said not 2pin equipments

difference & conclusion : u can pay another RM8 for to get another 3 pin power socket tongue.gif
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Cool. Stock available?

I'm just wondering...Is it possible to COD on the 21st at MV? Coz if it's possible, then I can COD there when I'll be COD-ing for another (possibly two other) items tongue.gif

If not poslaju is fine as well. Erm..How much is the insurance for this one and how does it work? Do I have to pay the RM 5/RM10 yearly or how?
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Cool. Stock available?

I'm just wondering...Is it possible to COD on the 21st at MV? Coz if it's possible, then I can COD there when I'll be COD-ing for another (possibly two other) items tongue.gif

If not poslaju is fine as well. Erm..How much is the insurance for this one and how does it work? Do I have to pay the RM 5/RM10 yearly or how?
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erm... i try to plan... perhaps can dating with my gf at there when tat day and can COD to u too, but sure get scold by my gf whether come to MV for dating or business... lol...

where u stay? i can COD immediately to u after i got the stock if u can COD along the LDP or sunway or shah alam... otherwise i can postage for u without any charges and pack neatly for u, and also post to u within this week if possible smile.gif

the insurance is used to claim ur equipment if striked by ligthning even plugged the cal-lab devices with proper installation too... the HQ will assign a engineer go to ur house to investigate to check whether is it the cal-lab fail to protect, if really fail to protect, u can claim RM5k/RM10k accoring the how much insurance u paid yearly...

actually CEO not recommended customer to buy insurance also because a lot of procedures need to follow and time consuming, plus he confrim tat his products can 99.9% protecting ur equipment safely, only the cal-lab will burnt if the ligthning too strong to ground into earth...

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erm... i try to plan... perhaps can dating with my gf at there when tat day and can COD to u too, but sure get scold by my gf whether come to MV for dating or business... lol...

where u stay? i can COD immediately to u after i got the stock if u can COD along the LDP or sunway or shah alam... otherwise i can postage for u without any charges and pack neatly for u, and also post to u within this week if possible  smile.gif

the insurance is used to claim ur equipment if striked by ligthning even plugged the cal-lab devices with proper installation too... the HQ will assign a engineer go to ur house to investigate to check whether is it the cal-lab fail to protect, if really fail to protect, u can claim RM5k/RM10k accoring the how much insurance u paid yearly...

actually CEO not recommended customer to buy insurance also because a lot of procedures need to follow and time consuming, plus he confrim tat his products can 99.9% protecting ur equipment safely, only the cal-lab will burnt if the ligthning too strong to ground into earth...
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Haha. Like a bit mafan for you lar if do at MV like that. So never mind lah.

So regarding the insurance thingy..It's a yearly thing I assume...Right? If I have to pay RM 5 yearly, I think I'll skip it then. Too troublesome sumore have to investigate and stuff sweat.gif

When will you have the stock anyway? I'm gonna ask HQ for sponsorship on this one tongue.gif
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anytime... if the office got the stocks because SF9512 is the hottest cake... i met a dealer before, he get 20+ units in 1 time by cash and carry, almost clear the stocks... sweat.gif

but i will phone to office to leave 1 set for me to COD/post for u...

so do i need to provide u a receipt to claim money from HQ? i dun hv offical receipt provide from cal-lab because it only use for office blush.gif
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Sure a receipt (any form) would be fine. So it's RM 76 right?

Say I get something else as well, would there be an additional discount? Coz my sister might want one for her tv + astro
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yup, the models u get is SF9512DSL MS2+3 RM76

will provide some discount if buy more loh... smile.gif

tv+astro:
SFTV9822FC: RM92
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Alright then. Can gimme a quote for these first?

2 SFTV9822FC and 1 SF9512DSL MS2+3

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 7 2006, 06:53 PM)
FYI, we dont have such products multisocket + lan (RJ45) designed yet, but we only have SF9512MS2+3 which got multisocket + modem (RJ11), so the only best option now for u is SD-4C, but only 1 power socket. but i will forward ur request to HQ to check whether the got customized version available yet, otherwise depend on them whether they can design new products for u but will time consuming...

actually plug ordinary multi power socket on cal-lab devices wont effect the protection level, cal-lab devices still able to protect  the equipments which plugged on the multi power socket with proper installation...

hope my reply can satisfy u... smile.gif
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I know its still protected but in any office, the concern is on space saving and integrated. so if i can get something with min. 3 plugs and 1 cat5e it would be great. let me know if they have such product.
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I know its still protected but in any office, the concern is on space saving and integrated. so if i can get something with min. 3 plugs and 1 cat5e it would be great. let me know if they have such product.
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hi sir,

here is my CEO replied... actually i edited my previous post but previously LowYat database rollback, all my info lost... i re-post the CEO feedback again...
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PIECE-MEAL protection is precisely we what are trying so hard to AVOID.
If this request were only for a work station, then SL-MS2+3 or Twin-Power Pack plus SLAN1236 should do.


the size of the cal-lab product spend too much spaces... it quite handy and light as well too... so far i using 2 cal-lab produtcs for my pc and take the photo for u as well, the sizes for the SLAN1236 and SF9512(size similiar to SLMS2+3 but sligthly thicker) and SLMS2+3 got 5 power sockets - 2*3pin & 3*2pin power sockets


Note: sorry for blur picture because using an "outdated" webcam smile.gif

SLAN1236 (hanging behind the pc like a cable, wont spend any space, smaller than liquid paper)
user posted image

SF9512 (around triple size of liquid paper)
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SP9201DSL, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount

Can I protect my modem by using SP9201DSL while the power of my modem is already protected?


SF9512DSL, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68

Can COD at Wangsa Maju or some place near?
Or any other store tat offer it?


SF9512DSL-MS2 (CU version), Protect:PT - > RRP:RM93 (Stop Production For Moment, Upgrading To Support ADSL2)

How the SF9512DSL-MS2 looks like?


SF9512DSL-MS2+3, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76

Y SF9512DSL-MS2+3 cheaper than SF9512DSL-MS2 geh? Since it has more features.


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Question: Can I protect my modem by using SP9201DSL while the power of my modem is already protected?
Answer: if u ensure tat the power line is protecting ur pc very well or u using UPS, u can use SP9201DSL to protect ur the telephone line...

Question: Can COD at Wangsa Maju or some place near? Or any other store tat offer it?
Answer: i not too familiar tat places, but the best i can do is COD at KLCC or lowyat, otherwise i can post for u without extra charges... we have plenty of dealers around klang valley but not sure whether wangsa maju have any shops selling it, plus cal-lab HQ cant ensure tat they providing professional services for u, futhermore mostly they sell few common models only....

Question: How the SF9512DSL-MS2 looks like?
Answer: the right hand side of the picture
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Question: Y SF9512DSL-MS2+3 cheaper than SF9512DSL-MS2 geh? Since it has more features.
Answer: SF9512DSL-MS2+3 is a mass productions, means a common product... but the SF9512DSL-MS2 is a Customized Version to suit with the future internet requirement and specially designed, it is more future proof is u want to upgrade ur internet to ADSL2 in future. A company at Penang (i think is Motorola company if not remember wrong) is testing the Customized Version before it sell into market... Thats why the reasons the SF9512DSL-MS2 is more expensive than SF9512DSL-MS2+3

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If i take SC0039 and i use those Spliter to split 6 socket out , do you think it works and safe ?
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If i take SC0039 and i use those Spliter to split 6 socket out , do you think it works and safe ?
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it still able to protect ur equipment if u plugged the extension power sockets on it, but ensure tat dont overload the ability of SC0039 since it only can support till 10A and the power wire not too long between equipments and cal-lab devices, because longer wire will have higher chances to get the static if the ligthning striked near ur building...

however, what equipments tat u want to protect? if all the equipments were high power consumption, not too recommended tat all equipments rely on 1 unit...
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Nice reply and services... Really appreaciate it... Thank You...

Do SF9512DSL comes with ADSL2 features?

So when SF9512DSL-MS2 have stock?

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I don't think I'll be taking 2 of the SFTV 9822FC. Just one. Apparently the surge protector for our tv room isn't so good tongue.gif

Sp the order now is

1 SFTV9822FC and 1 SF9512DSL MS2+3

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So how much is it for both sir?

But before that, do I have any other options? Or are those the best ones?

Thanks ! smile.gif
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Nice reply and services... Really appreaciate it... Thank You...

Do SF9512DSL comes with ADSL2 features?

So when SF9512DSL-MS2 have stock?
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not... ordinary SF9512 doesnt support ADSL2...
bcos the ADSL and ADSL2 have different frequency bandwidth
and TMnet hvnt launch ADSL2 yet also... tongue.gif

i not yet get information from the CLLI managment abt when they will sell, perhaps need very long time to wait.... smile.gif CLLI's CEO only tell me those units are under testing...

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QUOTE(marquis @ May 13 2006, 04:49 AM)
Peek-a-boo! tongue.gif

I don't think I'll be taking 2 of the SFTV 9822FC. Just one. Apparently the surge protector for our tv room isn't so good tongue.gif

Sp the order now is

1 SFTV9822FC and 1 SF9512DSL MS2+3

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So how much is it for both sir?

But before that, do I have any other options? Or are those the best ones?

Thanks ! smile.gif
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other options for SFTV9822FC
Older Designer Products
SFTV9622FC (RM85) dont not mulitsocket feature on it
SFTV9622FC (RM92) have mulitsocket feature on it
conclusion: perhaps ur tv set already have the extension cord, u just plug the power plug onto new desinged SFTV9822FC, and then SFTV9822FC plug onto wall socket... DONE... smile.gif i using SFTV9822FC on my house tv set and astro too, the signal wont reduce after use it...

other options for SF9512DSL MS2+3
SF9512DSL (RM68) dont not mulitsocket feature on it
conclusion: better stick with mulitsockets to get life easier... smile.gif

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I want to Protect My Ipod , Altec Speaker & Nokia Travel Charge x 3 .
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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ May 13 2006, 09:49 AM)
I want to Protect My Ipod , Altec Speaker & Nokia Travel Charge x 3 .
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tat should not problem, very low power consumption smile.gif

but if u want to play safe, u have other option:
NILI9920F (10A) have the fuse feature
SL-AR (3A) will auto reset (auto off the power when detected ligthning) and for sensitive equipments

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 13 2006, 09:59 AM)
tat should not problem, very low power consumption  smile.gif

but if u want to play safe, u have other option:
NILI9920F (10A) have the fuse feature
SL-AR (3A) will auto reset (auto off the power when detected ligthning) and for sensitive equipments
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What play's the role between SL-MS4 and the NILI9920F that you recomend ?
I found that SL-MS4 got 4 output though and with the same price of NILI9920F.
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What play's the role between SL-MS4 and the NILI9920F that you recomend ?
I found that SL-MS4 got 4 output though and with the same price of NILI9920F.
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SLMS4 have a multisocket like the picture at 1st page displayed, it also jz a ordinary power supply isolator...
but NILI9920F, SC0039, SLAR only have 1 socket, but the feature is better than SLMS4...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 13 2006, 10:22 AM)
SLMS4 have a multisocket like the picture at 1st page displayed, it also jz a ordinary power supply isolator...
but NILI9920F, SC0039, SLAR only have 1 socket, but the feature is better than SLMS4...
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SLMS4 : it only used as a power supply... if u have other CLLI products and plug them on it, because SLMS4 can support higher voltage... can said tat the Power Line is protected by isolator methods, not using Features to protect...

the product below is more for standalone equipments
SC0039, protect: P-Air-cond/Fridge/copier, features: null (but power line protected)
NILI9920F, protect: PF-Fridge/M-wave/freezer, feature: fuse
SL-AR, protect: P-sensitive equipment/fridge(3A), features: auto reset

since u use for normal equipments, any of them will work for u...
perhaps SL-MS2+3 and MDSD0039 can consider into...

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SF9512DSL, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68
SF9512DSL-MS2+3, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76

Do they have the same featues?
Just that the SF9512DSL-MS2+3 has more extension?

I would take the SF9512DSL-MS2+3 if take long time to wait the ADSL2...


By the way, how do we use the ground wire on the
SP9201DSL, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount
SP9201DAF, Protect:T -> RRP:RM43, 10%off, Now:RM39

where to plug it?


Or I will get these so that I will have no ADSL2 issue in the future?
SLMS4, Protect:P -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68

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Which 1 for telephone and modem usage?
SP9201DSL, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount
SP9201DAF, Protect:T -> RRP:RM43, 10%off, Now:RM39


So can COD at KLCC? Or how long does the posting takes?

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Question: Do they have the same featues? Just that the SF9512DSL-MS2+3 has more extension?
Answer: Yup, same features but more extension sockets... SF9512DSL only have 1*3pin power socket; SF9512DSL-MS2+3 have 2*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...

Question: By the way, how do we use the ground wire on the SP9201DSL, SP9201DAF. where to plug it?
Answer: there have a grounding cable attached on SP9201DAF, but not sure abt the SP9201DSL, too much products have to remember sweat.gif ... but u hv to DIY urself to ground the cable on ur 3pin power plug's earth pin and u can extend the grounding cable's length urself...

Question: So can COD at KLCC? Or how long does the posting takes?
Answer: if by post perhaps around 3-7days, will use poslaju...

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Thx for your advice...

rclxms.gif SP9201AR, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount X 1
SLMS4, Protect:P -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68 X 1

Giv me one for each of them... tongue.gif

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gkl83, does CAL-LAB got any outlet in Kuching? Reason to ask is i suppose the cut-off threshold are set to be very minimum/sensitive so as to isolate lightning effectively, that is if i need to sent the "striked" unit, then i would have to post it all the way back for a RM25 exchange? sweat.gif
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gkl83, does CAL-LAB got any outlet in Kuching?  Reason to ask is i suppose the cut-off threshold are set to be very minimum/sensitive so as to isolate lightning effectively, that is if i need to sent the "striked" unit, then i would have to post it all the way back for a RM25 exchange?  sweat.gif
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got some outlet selling Cal-Lab products... Click here->APO LIST
AREA CODE: 08 (EAST MALAYSIA)
1. E&C ENTERPRISE CO. (KUCHING)
- TEL. 082-423888 CLEMENT YEO
4. CHUN MIN ELECTRONIC SERVICE (KUCHING, SARAWAK)
-TEL 082-451403 MR. STANLEY KHO
5. S. L. COMPUTER ACCESSORIES (KUCHING, SARAWAK)
-TEL 082-349489 / MR WINSTON CHANG

Cal-Lab not design to sensitive and get burnt easily even detected minor lightning...
it will burnt itself if the lightning voltage too high or cant ground the ligthning into earth effectively... each of the products have different limitation to overcome to lightning, it wont force to isolate the lightning because if fail to isolate the high voltage may caused ur equipment burnt along with cal-lab...

i not sure whether they have the Recycle(Working) Unit, because u cant get a new unit with RM25 only... but u can try to phone them and to check whether they got those recycle unit in their shop

and the price for cal-lab at East Malaysia will slightly higher than West Malaysia if not remember wrong... smile.gif

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Haha... receive my goods... rclxms.gif
Good service from him, explain all my questions... thumbup.gif

Can I still operate my PC and other electrical pheriperals during thunder storm with CLLI protected? shocking.gif
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Haha... receive my goods... rclxms.gif
Good service from him, explain all my questions... thumbup.gif

Can I still operate my PC and other electrical pheriperals during thunder storm with CLLI protected? shocking.gif
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so fast? nice poslaju services rclxms.gif

not too recommended, better stop using ur PC if nothing important and unpluged telephone line to avoid RM25 "penalty", but i can confrim tat Cal-Lab can protect ur eqiupment effectively, so sure still can use when thunder storm with CLLI protected smile.gif

if the lightning voltage over the cal-lab limitation, it will self-destruct rather than force to isolate...

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 18 2006, 01:31 PM)
so fast? nice poslaju services rclxms.gif

not too recommended, better stop using ur PC if nothing important and unpluged telephone line to avoid RM25 "penalty", but i can confrim tat Cal-Lab can protect ur eqiupment effectively, so sure still can use when thunder storm with CLLI protected  smile.gif

if the lightning voltage over the cal-lab limitation, it will self-destruct rather than force to isolate...
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Received my goods biggrin.gif

A very good seller. Recommends the one that I need instead of asking me to read on my own. Also provides good answers and is confident of the product he sells. He even gave a photocopy of his IC to show that he is earnest in doing his business!

Not to mention the price he offers is exteremely good!

Keep up the good work mate!

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SC0039 and NILI9920F (only for standalone eqiupment)
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if tend to plug several equipment on cal-lab, recommended to get MDSC0039, SLMS2+3, SL-AR and SL9602F... the power cable is longer than SC0039 and NILI9920F and can add additional earth cable to ground the earth cable efficiently... wink.gif

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Hi glk83, does CAL-LAB has something for the whole house ? Like install on the main power line rather than buy individual unit for each power socket ?
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Hi glk83, does CAL-LAB has something for the whole house ?  Like install on the main power line rather than buy individual unit for each power socket ?
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actually ur house's ELCB act like CLLI, once it sense the high voltage and will jump the fuis... but perhaps it cant protect ur equipment well bcos u have variety type of equipment in ur house... it cant protect well is bcos it cant calculate accurately the voltage limit, it dont know till what the limit in order the jump the fius, perhaps jump randomly....

i have a experienced is the powerful lightning striked my cal-lab, dun hv jump the fius but cal-lab dead... so tat means the lightning surge still will pass thru the ELCB...

furthermore u have different spec of equipment... the power consumption will different, cal-lab have variety type of model for specific equipment....

example
SC0039 design for high power consumption (aircon, fridge, micro owen, senstive equip)
SLMS2+3 design for normal eqiup with low power comsuption (tv, computer, etc)

but if u set the ELCB too senstive not too good also, even it detected the minor lightning also will jump the fius... how about when u travel for 1week and lightning occured tat time, the ELCB jump the fius and ur fridge will stop operating, and ur food in fridge will............. sweat.gif so we hv a solution for this by using SL-AR, if the SL-AR detected the lightning surge, it will reset itself(switch off) and later on will provide power back...

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Well another product I can think of is CAL-LAB built-in with the wall power socket. So that when any house is doing renovation or adding power extension, they can purchase the wall power socket and install directly instead of another box which does look ulgy right ?
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jun 1 2006, 11:22 PM)
actually ur house's ELCB act like CLLI, once it sense the high voltage and will jump the fuis... but perhaps it cant protect ur equipment well bcos u have variety type of equipment in ur house... it cant protect well is bcos it cant calculate accurately the voltage limit, it dont know till what the limit in order the jump the fius, perhaps jump randomly....

i have a experienced is the powerful lightning striked my cal-lab, dun hv jump the fius but cal-lab dead... so tat means the lightning surge still will pass thru the ELCB...

furthermore u have different spec of equipment... the power consumption will different, cal-lab have variety type of model for specific equipment....

example
SC0039 design for high power consumption (aircon, fridge, micro owen, senstive equip)
SLMS2+3 design for normal eqiup with low power comsuption (tv, computer, etc)

but if u set the ELCB too senstive not too good also, even it detected the minor lightning also will jump the fius... how about when u travel for 1week and lightning occured tat time, the ELCB jump the fius and ur fridge will stop operating, and ur food in fridge will.............  sweat.gif so we hv a solution for this by using SL-AR, if the SL-AR detected the lightning surge, it will reset itself(switch off) and later on will provide power back...
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Well you did mention if travelling for 1 week. Well if the ELCB is trip, aren't this will be the same ?

I'm not sure if ELCB is protecting the voltage surge or current surge ? But I'm sure CAL-LAB can look at something that is replacing the ELCB(for life, earth and neutral) so we don't need to get every single unit for every electrical equipment.
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QUOTE(thamch @ Jun 2 2006, 08:38 AM)
Well another product I can think of is CAL-LAB built-in with the wall power socket.  So that when any house is doing renovation or adding power extension, they can purchase the wall power socket and install directly instead of another box which does look ulgy right ?
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FYI, the cal-lab not only a "box", it included the PCB board, i think perhaps it cant fit into those wall socket well... but how about if the users tat not competent to do such eletronic thinggy, exchange the wall socket plug to CLLI product? we should concern abt it... it is better for u to "plug and play" rather than "unscrew and screw"...

in other ways, if u change the wall socket only and every equipment plug on it, the protection will get lower... bcos it design for "general, overall", if design for "specific" for particular equipment will have good protection...

good example here, SP9201 got 3 models (std version, ar version, dsl verion)... so its depend ur need... different equipment hv different needs...
QUOTE(thamch @ Jun 2 2006, 08:41 AM)
Well you did mention if travelling for 1 week.  Well if the ELCB is trip, aren't this will be the same ?

I'm not sure if ELCB is protecting the voltage surge or current surge ?  But I'm sure CAL-LAB can look at something that is replacing the ELCB(for life, earth and neutral) so we don't need to get every single unit for every electrical equipment.
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tat the reason tat i said dont set the ELCB too sensitive, i dont think most of the house will jump fuis even the thunderstorm above us... only for some of them concern abt it and modify the ELCB into sensitive level... if ELCB too sensitive, got cal-lab also uselss, not point to buy to protect power line; if ELCB not sensitive, the cal-lab will help a lot

but most the ELCB designed for 240v, maybe till 260v-270v or even more only jump the fuis... but if ur house got sensitive equipments which cant absord the 250v even? then ur equipment dead... but if set the ELCB limited to 241v only, i believe will jump fuis many times per day, because we can know the the TNB's power supply not stable at all... each of the CLLI products have different limitions, pls check the 1st page "CLLI Brochures / Catalogs" 's bottom part... it jz a general information of the limitation for different equipment...

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Hi,

I'm thinking of protecting 2 pc system and my streamyx modem...can you pls quote the price?Pls use pm kay...

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hi gkl...i got a unit of cal lab phone lightning arrestor bein spoilt by lightning....how much to buy a new 1 ah?..wat is the price for this phone lightning arrestor...it's connect to phone main line before we connect with modem..
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hi gkl...i got a unit of cal lab phone lightning arrestor bein spoilt by lightning....how much to buy a new 1 ah?..wat is the price for this phone lightning arrestor...it's connect to phone main line before we connect with modem..
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RM5 ~ RM25, but depend on what models...
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about the light sensor for turn ON or OFF the light, how to place it, is it beside the lamp or any other ways. About the sensitiveness of the sensor, if it detect the light from the lamp itself. Can you explain how it can be placed.

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about the light sensor for turn ON or OFF the light, how to place it, is it beside the lamp or any other ways. About the sensitiveness of the sensor, if it detect the light from the lamp itself. Can you explain how it can be placed.
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u means Carefree Lite (DIY) ?

u have to locate it where the lamp's light cant reach to the sensor... which means locate at "dark" area even the light is on or u can extend the distance which u prefer... it sound like u can place it on any location which will it bring u effectively and efficiently, even u can locate the sensor outside ur house even ur lamp in ur living room smile.gif but the most important is the sensor should facing to "day light", not the "lamp light" then it only can detect nicely...

but the HA series hard to make explaination at here, if u want more info abt them, can make appointment meet at office to show u the demo wink.gif

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is it Carefree Lite (DIY) waterproof?
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is it Carefree Lite (DIY)  waterproof?
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it is not waterproof... but u can hide it under the roof, still consider safe for u...
will provide u more infomation about it when saturday... smile.gif
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is it Carefree Lite (DIY)  waterproof?
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jun 22 2006, 06:12 PM)
it is not waterproof... but u can hide it under the roof, still consider safe for u...
will provide u more infomation about it when saturday...  smile.gif
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hi!

interested in the SP9201-DAF, got a few question as follow:

1) does this need to do grounding as i c got 1 green wire, would like to know how to do grounding if needs to as i dun have any metal object nearby to fix it to. any suggestion???

2) got lifetime warranty ??

3) wat is the rate??? RM 43??? no discount ah???

4) how good is the build in micro filter??? any feedback??? or do we need to hook up another micro filter / spliter???

5) when is the expected ETA??


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1) it is recommended to ground cable onto the earth pin to provide the best protection... u can buy a plain 3 pin power socket at any DIY hardware shop and then u connect the green cable onto the earth pin, then u plug the socket to any wall socket... otherwise u can unscrew other equipment's 3pin power socket tat u using and connect to cable onto earth pin... but i recommend u to buy another 3pin power socket, bcos afraid u did some mistake if u unscrew the equipment's 3pin power socket...

2) yes. but the warranty not means u can exchange another unit for FOC. bcos the lightning will occur anytime, maybe once u plug the unit onto equipment but lightning striked tat time, tat not means defect product, it protecting ur equipment effectively... if ur units damaged, bring along ur damaged unit to us and pay another RM10-RM25 (depend on models), then we will exchange another working unit immediately and on the spot... if the sp9201DAF damaged, pay another RM15 and we give u another unit immediately

3) if u buy a unit, i wont earn much leh, so cant give too much discount... sweat.gif
if u buy more than few units, will give u discount automatically...

4) SP9201DAF = micro filtter+spliter (bundled with ADSL modem)
there are not necessary to plug another ordinary micro filtter+spliter onto it...
so far dun hv any complain from customer, we did the QA well for each products, we will make sure the quality before market it... even after u bought it and u unsatisfied, u can provide ur feedback for us, we will reimprove our products again... smile.gif

5) what is ur ETA means? tongue.gif

conclusion: the SP9201DAF only protecting ur telephone line, but the power line is not protected... so perhaps the lightning surge will come from power line and strike ur psu directly even u plugged the SP9201DAF... if u intend to get tat model and dun want to protect telephone, i would recommend u to get SF9512DSL or SF9512DSL MS2+3 instead, sure 99.9% ur pc will be protected

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ETA = estimated time of arrival, ie pay now when can get??

actually currently i am using the Trinity it pack liao la, i am just looking for a separate unit for phone line tat got adsl filter.

regarding ur suggestion of grounding, its a good idea never tot of it before of grounding it tat way. but my room onli got 1 outlet onli la and tat outlet use liao to power the trinity. so got any other way of grounding??? is it compulsory to do grounding for the protection to work??? or it can also be use without grounding??

tq for fast response smile.gif

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within 1 week, but depend on ur COD location... maybe next saturday or sunday...
if by postage, perhaps u can received on wed, i got a new unit on my hand now smile.gif

u can ground th cable on the trinity pack 1... bcos trininty also got the grounding features like sp9201daf, even the lightning strike the sp9201daf wont harm the trininty pack... or perhaps u can unscrew the trininty pack's 3pin power socket and located the ground cable...

u can without grounding the cable, but the protection level will decrease... it not design to absord the lightning (even ordinary ligthning arrestor not design to absord tongue.gif ), so if u placed the grounding cable, sp9201 will transfer the lightning surge to earth effecient if it can overcome the surge... if over the limitation, sp9201daf will burn itself rather than "forcing" transfer to earth... smile.gif

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interested ugpm and bump tongue.gif

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phone line connector in Trinity Promo A-V pack can support DSL (1M)?

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phone line connector in Trinity Promo A-V pack can support DSL (1M)?
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not, it cant support well...
it only design for ordinary telephone system, it will decrease the protection level and signal quality if use for modem... only the SF9512 series or IT pack can support ADSL...
telephone is analog system; modem is a digital system
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Hi, i'm ur workmate. if u dun mind pls take me as ur customer to teach me on the products . i think want to protect my alarm system , which is the better product that can i choose on it ? smile.gif

is the SF 9512 - AR or D is the same product and features ?

may i know if i buy the model SF 9512 have include the cable ?? the cable is it the same even i buy the SF 9512 DSL then i still can use in the cable on my telephone line ??

SF 9512 and SF 9812 have any different on it id i use it for streamyx??

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i want to protect my home equipment can i use STV 9511 ??

For SC 0039 and NILI 9920F is it the same if i want to use for air cond ??

MDSC0039 and SC0039 wat the different there ?

When can i use the SLMS 2 + 3 and the twin power pack

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Hi, i'm ur workmate. if u dun mind pls take me as ur customer to teach me on the products . i think want to protect my alarm system , which is the better product that can i choose on it ? smile.gif
Answer: SC0039, SLAR, NILI9920F

is the SF 9512 - AR or D is the same product and features ?
Answer: both of them different things.
AR = analog (telephone), D = Digital (56k dialup modem), DSL = ADSL (Stremyx connection)


may i know if i buy the model SF 9512 have include the cable ?? the cable is it the same even i buy the SF 9512 DSL then i still can use in the cable on my telephone line ??
Answer : all of the cal-lab products bundled with the neccessary cables... if SF9512 bundled telephone line; if SFTV9822 bundled with aerial cable, F type cable (astro) and telephone line... it is free hassle to get another extra hardwares to connect cal-lab and ur equipments together once u bought the cal-lab product

SF 9512 and SF 9812 have any different on it id i use it for streamyx??
Answer : SF9812 is depend on SKPX module, we replace the SKPX module only with another new module if it get burnt... however if SF9512 get burnt, we have to replace the whole units because there dont have any service-able parts...

i want to protect my home equipment can i use STV 9511 ?? icon_question.gif
Answer : if u dont have equipments like telephone and astro, STV9511 will sufficent to protect TV, dvd player and speaker system... if u have either telephone or astro, i will recommend get SFTV9822FC instead

For SC 0039 and NILI 9920F is it the same if i want to use for air cond ??
Answer : Both of them can protect 1 hp aircon... the different is NILI 9920F have the EMI and the SC0039 dont have the EMI... ... the "F" words in the NILI 9920"F" is means EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference Filter)

MDSC0039 and SC0039 wat the different there ?
SC0039's cable 6inch long only, cant add extra earth cable, and use for ONE equipment only
MDSC0039's cable was around 1meter long, can add extra earth cable to enchance to protection level and can use for multiple equipments


When can i use the SLMS 2 + 3 and the twin power pack
For the users who have a lot of the eqiupments to plug from the same wall socket and the total current is under 10A...
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u mean that the alarm system is use SC0039, but today i have a customer n take SF 9512 to do exchange..that time i have call to HQ but they said can use SF 9512 D to protect the alarm system . so is the real or not ?

If one company having a keyphone system , then the SPKX M AR spoilt so that mean i just ask them to change the SPKX M AR eough is it ? then is want to buy 20 unit so wat price i have to give ? ( sms me the figure )

where to use on SD 9623 if u bought it ? is for PC or power protector only ?

Wat differences between AV Pack n Satelite pack ?

IT Pack is it use for protect PC set and streamyx only ??

wat model is install before / after go to telephone line ??

wat model is install before/ after go to ADSL ?

wat model is install before / after go to PC set ?

Model SFTV 9622 and SFTV 9822 have any different ?

which model u guys recommend to use to protect PC set n streamyx , TV set , satelite set or house equipment ?


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u mean that the alarm system is use SC0039, but today i have a customer n take SF 9512 to do exchange..that time i have call to HQ but they said can use SF 9512 D to protect the alarm system . so is the real or not ?
Answer: if the alarm system is inculded the telephone features, like once trigger the alarm system it contact to the security centre and shop owners directly... then have the use SF9512AR

If one company having a keyphone system , then the SPKX M AR spoilt so that mean i just ask them to change the SPKX M AR eough is it ? then is want to buy 20 unit so wat price i have to give ? ( sms me the figure )
Answer: refer to ur price guide that provide by office

where to use on SD 9623 if u bought it ? is for PC or power protector only ?
Answer: SD9623 = 2 * SF9512AR... it protect 2 pair of leased line

Wat differences between AV Pack n Satelite pack ?
Answer: Satelite pack have the full satelite isolator module, it can protect well because each module can protect the specific equipment if compare with AV pack which it rely on a module but protect all equipment and may decrease the protection level

IT Pack is it use for protect PC set and streamyx only ??
Answer: Yes

wat model is install before / after go to telephone line ??
Answer: SP9201AR/D/DSL

wat model is install before/ after go to ADSL ? wat model is install before / after go to PC set ?
Answer: SF9512DSL/SF9512DSL MS2+3/IT Pack

Model SFTV 9622 and SFTV 9822 have any different ?
Answer: SFTV9822 is a newer product and look compact if compare with SFTV 9622 which look bigger and not so neat

which model u guys recommend to use to protect PC set n streamyx , TV set , satelite set or house equipment ?
Answer: PC, Streamyx = SF9512DSL,SF9512DSL MS2+3,IT Pack
; TV set, satelite = SFTV9822FC, SFTV9622FC ; house equipments = MDSC0039,SLAR,SLMS2+3, NILI9920F,SL9602F (depend on what equipment)


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thanks for ur reply

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What is this Full-Isolation FC-module in Satellite-Pack?
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it means the satelite feature have it own module, increase protection level because it design specifically to protect satelite (astro) only...

if the AV pack, the satelite will rely on the module which sharing with the antenna, telephone and power feature...
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Hi gkl83,

UGPM. I just placed an order for satellite pack. Convinced by this guy to get it. thumbup.gif

Few suggestions:

1) Your banking details, you should put your bank name. In the front you just put as

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Account Number: 1121 0299 1274


So it could be any bank.

2) Put up a FAQ area.

I can see most was asking what's the difference between AV and satellite pack, and what's the FC isolator and some other commonly asked questions. Instead of customers going through one by one the forum post or your replying repeatedly.

I hope to get my products and get CAL-LABbed!! smile.gif
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hi, received ur money from maybank2u...

i updated my information, thanks to remind me... i thought i updated it with bank name... u can request my IC copy upon request if u worry i run away... tongue.gif and updated my bulk order list

FAQ areas will consider into my future plan, i will try to make it... thanks for ur suggestion... cool.gif
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bump for friendly seller and good stuff wink.gif

my anti lightning solutions heheheh callab trinity pack + callab microfilter & phoneline protection (DAF) + APC Backups RS 800 UPS. any suggestion to add more?? tongue.gif

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bump for friendly seller and good stuff wink.gif

my anti lightning solutions heheheh callab trinity pack + callab microfilter & phoneline protection (DAF) + APC Backups RS 800 UPS. any suggestion to add more??  tongue.gif
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lightning rod on top ur pc... joke only laugh.gif

i think that would enough for u... u can get SLAN1236 to protect ur RJ45 cable if "ur hand itchy" like me SF9512DSL + SLAN1236... tongue.gif

hope u can support on Cal-Lab products forever... icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(jayoscar @ Apr 6 2006, 03:35 PM)
YEah, SUpport Cal-lab product...
I bought one for my astro on recent CNY at RM 14X. XX, here cheap, I got Cheat by the astro man......

Anyway, planning to get some more to protect my 2 Desktop PC + 1 Laptop PC + 3 printer + 1 ADSL router + 1 phoneline.
Now waiting the Telco guys come to install the phone and Streamyx which I already applied for more than 1 months.......

Give Me some suggestion on which product(s) you think good for above protection..... THX.    PM me.......:thumb:
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yaya i aoso got cheat by astro guy but after kautim he sell 100 oni.

i oso interested to get 1...hrmmm for adsl modem......yg mana satu....byk sgt la tak tahu yg mana
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QUOTE(pal33x @ Jul 1 2006, 02:11 AM)
yaya i aoso got cheat by astro guy but after kautim he sell 100 oni.

i oso interested to get 1...hrmmm for adsl modem......yg mana satu....byk sgt la tak tahu yg mana
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SF9512DSL, only have 1*3pin power socket
SF9512DSL-MS1+3, have 1*3pin and 3*2pin power socket
SF9512DSL-MS2+3, have 2*3pin and 3*2pin power socket
SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module), only have 1*3pin power socket but we jz change a small replaceable and serviceable module only if it get burnt
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Hi gkl83,

I'm looking to replace my splitter/microfilter (split to phone/modem DSL from tel line) but looking with one that have a built-in lighting protector.

1). Which one should i buy, is it the MDSP9922 or the DAFSP9201 ?
2). I'm leaving in Sabah if i would to buy, how much the price + delivery charges ?
3).What are the terms/conditions...COD/Pay first ?

TIA

ps: i wont mind to pay first as long as you give me your HP No (Via PM) wink.gif

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dreamthief, sent ur stuff when 1pm, will provide u a copy of poslaju receipt later...

QUOTE(stormer @ Jul 3 2006, 10:49 AM)
I'm looking to replace my splitter/microfilter (split to phone/modem DSL from tel line) but looking with one that have a built-in lighting protector.
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1. if replace the splitter/microfilter, the SP9201DAF is the 100% match model...
2. the SP9201DAF's price will refer from my 1st page, is RM39... the delivery charges i will bear some with u... perhaps i will offer u RM43 (RRP price) which included the poslaju charges... smile.gif
3. Cash in advance if by postage... if u worry that i will run away, i will provide complete my personal information for u which included my IC and licences copy, but upon request only... tongue.gif after i sent ur stuff, i will scan the complete poslaju receipt for u as well...

Recommendation/Advise:
protecting the telephone line is not sufficient, the lightning surge may come from power line (althought the chances is very low, but still have the posibility), so even u plugged SP9201DAF still have the chances to burn bcos surge from power line... if u not intended to protect analog telephone, so the best recommendation will same as Post #155 to protect the power line and telephone at the same time...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 3 2006, 05:17 PM)
Recommendation/Advise:
protecting the telephone line is not sufficient, the lightning surge may come from power line (althought the chances is very low, but still have the posibility), so even u plugged SP9201DAF still have the chances to burn bcos surge from power line... if u not intended to protect analog telephone, so the best recommendation will same as Post #155 to protect the power line and telephone at the same time...


I'm a little bit confused here.... and need more advice or suggesting :-

1). To protect only the tel. line buy the SP9201DAF , or
2). Buy the SF9512DSL model, or
3). Buy both the SP9201DAF + SF9512DSL.

FYI .... i already had the power lightning protector (from other brand), i'm only concern about protecting my ADSL modem from lightning which can struck! via the telephone line....and my phone are lauya one (telekom one) so if get burn just go to telekom and replace it ..LoL!!!

I'll pm'ed you later to give my particular (address/Hp No). If i've your answer tonight and decide which one should i buy (+discount )...? rclxms.gif


Hope we can close this deal ... A.S.A.P thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(stormer @ Jul 3 2006, 08:17 PM)
I'll pm'ed you later to give my particular (address/Hp No). If i've your answer tonight and decide which one should i buy (+discount )...?  rclxms.gif
Hope we can close this deal ... A.S.A.P  thumbup.gif
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if u doesnt mind abt the telekom phone to strike by lightning, then protect ur modem enough... tongue.gif i will recommend get SF9512DSL will enough to protect ur modem and whole pc equipments for the best secure protection, but it not design for telephone, so tat means SF9512DSL must after the ADSL micro splitter/filtter... if u only protect modem but ignore the other pc eqiupments, ur hardware may damage by lightning too if the surge come from power line to strike psu, the psu's sruge strike mobo, mobo's strike .................. sweat.gif

but it depend on u want to protect telephone line only or both line since u said have other lightning protection, but if u use cal-lab to protect ur whole pc eqiupment will be the best choices... if u buy several units, will discount for u automatically, so u can intro some fren also... tongue.gif

are u using UPS to protect ur power line? if AVR, pls get cal-lab to protect it as well... FYI, the AVR also will get burnt even they included the fuse... sweat.gif
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Hi

1). If i would to choose to protect only my telephone line i should get SP9201DAF, right ?

2). If i'm planing to protect both telephone line + the power line what product/combination should i get...?

ps: i'm confused ....
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1. yup. if only protect telephone line, get SP9201DAF

2. SF9512DSL or with MS version (multi socket) or IT pack smile.gif
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2. SF9512DSL or with MS version (multi socket) or IT pack  smile.gif
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With this SF9512DSL or with MS version (multi socket) or IT pack, should i need to buy DAF ... or it's already cover ?


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With this SF9512DSL or with MS version (multi socket) or IT pack, should i need to buy DAF ... or it's already cover  ?
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not need to buy DAF if u not intended to protect telephone...
but SF9512DSL purpose designed to protect streamyx modem...
u should able to get the conclusion now... smile.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 3 2006, 11:43 PM)
not need to buy DAF if u not intended to protect telephone...
but SF9512DSL purpose designed to protect streamyx modem...
u should able to get the conclusion now...  smile.gif
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If i use SP9201DSL and put a adsl filter after it to spilt to modem and phone, it is workable? Sorry noob here.

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If i use SP9201DSL and put a adsl filter after it to spilt to modem and phone, it is workable? Sorry noob here.
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workable but the signal quality and protection level will decrease since used for non suitable equipment... sure the inventor have the purpose to SP9201DAF wink.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 10 2006, 06:58 PM)
workable but the signal quality and protection level will decrease since used for non suitable equipment... sure the inventor have the purpose to SP9201DAF  wink.gif
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i see, i saw SP9201DAF has the green cable attached with it, needs to be grounded? If not grounded, it will not function properly?
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i see, i saw SP9201DAF has the green cable attached with it, needs to be grounded? If not grounded, it will not function properly?
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it still can function properly without to ground the cable...
but we recommended to ground the green cable in order to isolate the lightning effciently and reduce the failure MTBF...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 10 2006, 07:36 PM)
it still can function properly without to ground the cable...
but we recommended to ground the green cable in order to isolate the lightning effciently and reduce the failure MTBF...
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Thanks for the info bro, will order from u if i need any of those thumbup.gif

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Thanks for the info bro, will order from u if i need any of those thumbup.gif
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aha my modem get burned down again...just 2 month then baba mad.gif i...

so..... n again sweat.gif my question is what product i shud use to protect adsl modem from lightning that strike modem from telephone line......pm me ya with amaunt i need to pay and ur bank accaunt rclxms.gif

lazy la to go through ur 1st page so ZzzZzzzzz doh.gif .......................

hrmmm....adsl oso can kena kilat from power adaptre kah? wink.gif
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QUOTE(pal33x @ Jul 22 2006, 02:18 PM)
hrmmm....adsl oso can kena kilat from power adaptre kah? wink.gif
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yup... is possible... good example in the spoiler...
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the surge still can come from power cable even u switch off the wall socket, but high posibility the surge come from earth cable which is "switch on" all the time if the power plug still attaching on wall socket...

SF9512DSL is the best recommendation to protect 1 set of pc and modem(streamyx)... if have more than 1 set of pc and/or have other networking devices... i will suggest other/more models for different pc setup...

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just add you in msn, looking forward to buy 2-3 pcs from you =D
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it is possible to change the cal lab wire from grey to white?
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it is possible to change the cal lab wire from grey to white?
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i think impossible, all models are mass production and the material type adjustment will be an issue for them...
thanks for ur feedback, i will forward it to the inventor face by face... smile.gif
perhaps he will customize for u... tongue.gif
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Brought from glk83... good communications seller as he will guide and draw how your electronics plan will work for his isolator not like those "You look those product and choose lar", what you can expect more?

this is glk83 good mini item (0.5kg?) compared to my old isolator, big size and 1.5kg.

Hope it can protect much better than my old isolator as the old isolator failed to protect my sis computer and streamyx.

I think this product is quite reliable.. according to http://www.cal-lab.com/award.htm founded in 1994.

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Hi glk83,

What is the difference between MDSC0039 and SC0039? Is it just extra long cable only? What is the meaning can add additional earth cable ?

This model NILI9920F(10A) comes with EMI Filter. What is the purpose and in what condition that we should use this model ?

Why most of the model comes with 10A fuse and not 13A ?

Thanks.
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Hi glk83,

What is the difference between MDSC0039 and SC0039? Is it just extra long cable only?  What is the meaning can add additional earth cable ?

This model NILI9920F(10A) comes with EMI Filter.  What is the purpose and in what condition that we should use this model ?

Why most of the model comes with 10A fuse and not 13A ?

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MDSC0039 have longer cable and it can used for number of equipments by using multiextension... therefore it have a small connector which allow u too do the grounding purpose... example like SP9201, it have ground cable and the cable will attach to MDSC0039 which free of hassle from unscrew the 3 pin power plug to attach on earth pin...

SC0039 only use for standalone equipment, which means only 1 to 1 only... it not recommended to use more than 1 equipment... but it without the small connector like MDSC0039...

EMI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_interference
if the equipments u using will produce the electromagnetic radiation and may effect the other equipment's functionality, this is the suitable model...

FYI, most of our product dont have included fuse... the 10A only indicate the total power tat the equipment can consume from it... in addition cal-lab not designed for 13A is bcos it had slower response time to detect the lightning surge, so it may damage ur sensitive equipment if it cant detect minor surge... tat why cal-lab design SL-AR (1.5A), SL-AR (3A) and SL-AR (5A)... let say u using fax machine which only 0.3A and u use SL-AR (5A) to protect, it wont suitable... if the minor surge cause the power line increase to 2A++ and ur fax machine is senstive, ur machine will get burnt too bcos SL-AR (5A) hardly to detect the surge... so for this case i will get 1.5A version instead 5A version
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Ordered and received 4 units of SC9517. Excellent support from him. Thanks Gan.
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hi gkl83,

from the brochure, what's the diff between SF9512-MS1+3, SF9512DSL-MS1+3 and SF9512DSL-MS1+3(customized)?

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hi gkl83,

from the brochure, what's the diff between SF9512-MS1+3, SF9512DSL-MS1+3 and SF9512DSL-MS1+3(customized)?
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SF9512-MS1+3 : we call it as Digital Version, it recommended to use for fax machine, dial up connection and 512 streamyx...
SF9512DSL-MS1+3 : it able to support up to 2mb streamyx and ADSL2 as well
SF9512DSL-MS1+3 (customized) : it depend on customer's request, if u have special equipments which current versions not able to support, we will customize the SF9512 to suit with ur equipments to perform prefectly...

if have still any doubt, ur question will be welcomed... smile.gif
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thks for the explaination. ugpm!!
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I have a question. I'd like to protect my modem along with my cordless phone, now using a chaplang brand. I'd used a Cal-lab (bought from Jusco) and if I recall correctly there was a instruction paper that came with it that states that the parts are replaceable if fused for a fee. Is it still the same now?
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QUOTE(tutiger @ Sep 18 2006, 11:15 PM)
I have a question. I'd like to protect my modem along with my cordless phone, now using a chaplang brand. I'd used a Cal-lab (bought from Jusco) and if I recall correctly there was a instruction paper that came with it that states that the parts are replaceable if fused for a fee. Is it still the same now?
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not means to offend u... i dont think jusco is selling cal-lab products, are u buy from the PC shops tat in jusco? bcos we cant sell cal-lab product in any supermarket or hypermarket without our recommendation to avoid confusion and buyers bought the wrong version or do wrong installation caused their equipments striked by ligthning as well...

are u means LLSWA ?
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Sep 18 2006, 11:45 PM)
not means to offend u... i dont think jusco is selling cal-lab products, are u buy from the PC shops tat in jusco? bcos we cant sell cal-lab product in any supermarket or hypermarket without our recommendation to avoid confusion and buyers bought the wrong version or do wrong installation caused their equipments striked by ligthning as well...

are u means LLSWA ?
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Thanks for the prompt reply..... But I used to buy my Cal-lab from Jusco MidValley at the electrical department (but they don't carry it anymore)

I think it is something like the LLSWA. I'll see if I can still have the instructions paper with me smile.gif

Well, if repair service is provided then I'm all in...... will get back to you later..... need to do a little head count tongue.gif
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Well, if repair service is provided then I'm all in...... will get back to you later..... need to do a little head count tongue.gif
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1. Rm25 - immediately exchange on the spot for 1 to 1 exchange
2. Rm15 - required to wait for 1week in order to send back to HQ if able to restore
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this guy is recommended seller...very patient to answer your questions..........no regret buying....I will pm u soon as I need a few more units thanx
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hmm... my IT pack ... i think it's partially spoilt due to struck by lightning..
the telephone line port... when connected to the IT pack.. my adsl modem shows no signal`.. then if without passing through the IT pack.. then it's working with signal..
as for the power plugs.. it's still working good though`...

ermm.. any suggestion for my case? the IT pack is obsolete from the cal-lab product line , right?

heheh`.. , yea.. my IT pack isn't bought from you..` tongue.gif
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 26 2006, 12:17 AM)
hmm...  my IT pack ... i think it's partially spoilt due to struck by lightning..
the telephone line port...  when connected to the IT pack.. my adsl modem shows no signal`..  then if without passing through the IT pack.. then it's working with signal..
as for the power plugs.. it's still working good though`... 

ermm..  any suggestion for my case? the IT pack is obsolete from the cal-lab product line , right?

heheh`.. , yea.. my IT pack isn't bought from you..` tongue.gif
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we selling IT pack... we wont phase out it bcos only several models support 10A equipments... and obviously it killed by lightning but for sure ur modem is still alive... smile.gif perhaps the telephone port still able to use for telekom phone, but not recommend to do it bcos it lost the protection function...

is ok that u not bought from me, i will do exchange replacement with u too if it is 100% from cal-lab... smile.gif
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wow, thanks for prompt reply` ... heheh
UGPM..~ smile.gif
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hehe... a free bump to gkl. just got my sf9812-dsl. work fine, no hiccup or anything from installing up to using. adsl remain in good shape (speed wise, of course).

some more, recommend and explain before selling the thing. good service, a thumbs up for gkl!!
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great product as ive been using it for 2-3 years already

the insurance thing is worth getting too, just in case smile.gif
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i'm looking for a lightning isolator for my ADSL modem. Using 1Mbps Streamyx now. Lazy to lookthrough all the isolator models, so, can you recomend me which model should i take and what is the price?
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cool...gkl83 is a recommended seller...just trade with him today morning at PJ...thx for all ur answer...1 more question...inside the sd4c ah the lan cable must use 1 ah?..is it connected to line in??
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cool...gkl83 is a recommended seller...just trade with him today morning at PJ...thx for all ur answer...1 more question...inside the sd4c ah the lan cable must use 1 ah?..is it connected to line in??
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u can use other lan cable as u like...
can use either line in or line out... not different...
but tat lan cable only have pin 1,2,3,6... u can see obviously from the connector which confirm can use by networking purpose
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hi gkl83,
i am interested, but im little bit confused tongue.gif
i need to protect (2 PC, 1 CRT monitor, 1 LCD monitor, 1 DSL modem, 1 router), how many unit i need to buy?

option 1:
just buy 1 SF9512DSL + user posted image + user posted image

will this work?

option 2:
just buy a SF9512DSL MS2+3?

hope you can give me some advice notworthy.gif


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hope you can give me some advice notworthy.gif
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if use for 1set of PC, the option 1 can be used...

but since now u intended to use 2 PC at the same time, it may overload and overheat the SF9512DSL which able to support till 5A (1000w) only... recommended to get SF9512DSL MS2+3 which support till 10A (2000w) in order to play safe...

FYI, both of this units user posted image user posted image can use together with cal-lab products...

but not recommended to use Power Reel Extension Cord (can roll up 1)
the reason is bcos the longer of the cable, higher chances to get static charges into cable and damage ur equipment as well...
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hi there...

juz adding u at msn..

wanna ask u few questions...

i got i set pc + monitor...then wan to use with ADSL modem + wireless router + phone line/lan cable .....

which u recomended? Trinity Series IT-Pack?
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which u recomended? Trinity Series IT-Pack?
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1. only 1 complete set of PC
2. dont have other PCs connecting the router wirely
3. all the equipment located at the same area/location (not separately)
4. not intended to protect telephone
Result: SF9512DSL will suit with ur requirement

if u have plenty of equipments which over 1000w, get IT pack instead...
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here my layout plan...

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area need to protect


1. yup protect 1 set PC only
2. got connect but at another room which oledi got surge protector
3. yup...the PC set + modem + router + phone line located same area
4. gimme advice on tis whether need to protect telephone set o not? gimme the opt with and without...

thx
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QUOTE(sakuragi @ Nov 3 2006, 10:10 AM)
here my layout plan...

user posted image
area need to protect
1. yup protect 1 set PC only
2. got connect but at another room which oledi got surge protector
3. yup...the PC set + modem + router + phone line located same area
4. gimme advice on tis whether need to protect telephone set o not? gimme the opt with and without...

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now was clearer...
i will recommend u get MDSC0039 and SP9201DAF instead, the combination will better than SF9512DSL

MDSC0039 : protect power supply
SP9201DAF : replace the ADSL splitter flitter, it used to split into telephone and modem...

What is unit u using to protect the PC at another room? is it cal-lab brand also? if chapalang brand, pls avoid using it... if the protector fail to protect the PC, lightning will struck ur wireless router, modem... if unlucky whole PC set will get burnt as well...
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MDSC0039 only for one 3-pin outlet only wor...

i need at least four 3-pin outler to power monitor,pc,router,modem...
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QUOTE(sakuragi @ Nov 3 2006, 11:36 PM)
MDSC0039 only for one 3-pin outlet only wor...

i need at least four 3-pin outler to power monitor,pc,router,modem...
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u use MDSC0039 + user posted image <-- u should already have one, right?

EDIT: yo seller, 1 unit of SP9201DAF please. SMS me if anything.

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Whoa yeAh~! Great Seller u have here! thumbup.gif

This guy is really patient with me. Actually I order from him like 1 week ago edi but wasn't feeling well so I had to delay the payment. But the moment I paid up, he immediately posted the item on the same day and I received it the next day... really speedy sweat.gif

Got myself a SP9201DSL to protect my Aztech ADSL modem. I'm quite impressed actually that this is the first time I found a lightning protector thing that can allow ADSL connection to run smoothly. Usually those 'ciplak' telephone surge protector, you can't even dial in your streamyx... hey, support Cal-Lab~~~!!!!

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Whoa yeAh~! Great Seller u have here!  thumbup.gif

This guy is really patient with me. Actually I order from him like 1 week ago edi but wasn't feeling well so I had to delay the payment. But the moment I paid up, he immediately posted the item on the same day and I received it the next day... really speedy  sweat.gif

Got myself a SP9201DSL to protect my Aztech ADSL modem. I'm quite impressed actually that this is the first time I found a lightning protector thing that can allow ADSL connection to run smoothly. Usually those 'ciplak' telephone surge protector, you can't even dial in your streamyx... hey, support Cal-Lab~~~!!!!
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i jsut try to do my best after received ur money... smile.gif

Reminder to others... the red words is not a correct recommendation... tongue.gif
Only SF9512DSL, SF9512DSL MS2+3, SF9812DSL or IT pack able to protect modem 99.9% safely... Lightning surge have the chances come from power line although rare to happen... Due to some situation, i sold him SP9201DSL only but he have to bear the risk that his modem and pc's power line is not protected...
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i'm currently using a Belkin 75k amp lightning surge protector, i bought it due to my modem got struck by lightning twice in 1 week, before this, i had a belkin 6500 amps surge protector, which really did not work (my modem got destroyed even after using it).

i just wanna know how does Cal-lab surge protectors compare to the overpriced belkins? thinking of getting 1 cal-lab just to protect my ADSL modem. I dont kinda like trust belkin anymore, since the first one i bought didnt work at all. also i want to know how much current (amps) can the cal-lab ADSL modem surge protector handle.

and lets say my modem got destroyed even after hooking it up to the Cal-Lab surge protector, will i get a reimbursement for the damaged modem? my house gets struck by lightning on a very regular basis, i have even seen it struck right behind my bedroom window.
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i'm currently using a Belkin 75k amp lightning surge protector, i bought it due to my modem got struck by lightning twice in 1 week, before this, i had a belkin 6500 amps surge protector, which really did not work (my modem got destroyed even after using it).

i just wanna know how does Cal-lab surge protectors compare to the overpriced belkins? thinking of getting 1 cal-lab just to protect my ADSL modem. I dont kinda like trust belkin anymore, since the first one i bought didnt work at all. also i want to know how much current (amps) can the cal-lab ADSL modem surge protector handle.

and lets say my modem got destroyed even after hooking it up to the Cal-Lab surge protector, will i get a reimbursement for the damaged modem? my house gets struck by lightning on a very regular basis, i have even seen it struck right behind my bedroom window.
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hi, thanks for ur reply...

is ur pc located near the window or which had grill? if really pls remove ur equipment away from there... the grill able to attract the ligthning surge and "jump" into ur indoor equipment, for the safety move ur equipment into ur inner part of ur house, avoid outer part like window, balcony or another side of the wall was outdoor which exposed to environment... if the wall get wet when raining, it still have possible tat the rain drop attract surge to the wet wall, and the surge will jump into house...

and the correct installation was important too... even u used the most expensive lightning protection, the result that we can know wat damaged equipments... even ur "Front Door" locked but not locked the "Back Door", "Burglar" still able to reach into ur house and steal ur stuffs...

example:
1. refer Post #170, protected tel line, but not protected power line...
2. using correct models for correct equipments, example only 1 set of ur PC and 1 router protected. but have other PCs connecting to the router too... if surge come from power line and strucked the "other PCs" and surge passed thru lan cable and struck router and ur PC

for belkin brands, i had not comments on it... from ur word seem like belkin product is "arrest" the lightning for 6500amps sweat.gif ... a normal equipment can handle up to 13amps only, but is hard to arrest 6500amps surge and caused the devices not effective enough if overloaded to arrest... but cal-lab product is design for isolate lightning, is different with arrestor, the amps that cal-lab can handle was:

Power line:
Isolation Level: 10/5A

Tel line:
Isolation level: 100mA / <500mA

Note: refer page 1 "CLLI Brochures / Catalogs", completed product specification located on the last page

For different equipment have different sensitivity and different version:

1. AV Version: lower signal speed, less sensitivity (auto reset after detected lightning)
Example: Telephone System

2. D Version: normal signal speed, normal sensitivity
Example: Fax Machine, Dial-Up Modem, 512kbps BroadBand

3. DSL Version: high signal speed, high sensitivity (self destruct easily)
Example: Up To 1mb BroadBand or even more, able to reach xxxmb after tested by well-known company

if u worry ur equipment will get struck too after used cal-lab, u can purcahse RM10 insurance yearly, but insurance for ur equipments not cal-lab... if u used the correct models and correct installation... u can claim RM5000 nett even just burnt a modem only after cal-lab assign engineer come to investigate, if they found out tat u done all the things with correct installation (and maybe the ur pc location as well, always stay inner part), and cal-lab fail to protect ur equipments...

but for sure with or without the insurance have the pros and cons... our insurance is outsourced to AIG company, we have a receipt/certificate for u... due tat cal-lab is effective products and had US patented, they working out with cal-lab to provide support to do claiming... but lets said our product not effective enough, sure wont have any insurance company will come to support us, otherwise plenty of cal-lab users which fail to protect equipment (not included those fraud cases) will do the claiming untill the company bankrupt... Cal-Lab have their own happy users, and I have my happy LYN users too (didnt receive any cases about the equipment damaged by lightning after used cal-lab with my proper consulation)... smile.gif

if possible, pls draw up the completed diagram of ALL ur PC connectivity and ANY equipments connecting to each other... I will do recommendation for correct models and correct installations... if still doubt on me, pls make an appointment and meet with me / cal-lab inventor personally... smile.gif

About the cal-lab warranty, we not like other ordinary products like have warranty 1yr, 3yrs or 5yrs... we have the unlimited "warranty" (according LLSWA) even u used cal-lab products for 10years, which means after 10years and it spoiled that time, you can do exchange too by bringing the damaged unit and paying Rm25 (for IT pack) to office, the office will exchange immediately on the spot for a working unit for u... but let say if u plug it by today, then tomorrow have very strong lightning strikes the cal-lab products till damaged, but you used for 1day or few hours only, that was not defect product, it is protected your equipment out from lightning strike, so for tat case we have to charge u RM25 to do exchange too even used 1 day... cal-lab products is used to protect your equipment, if cal-lab products failed to protect your equipment and u did the proper installation too, u have the right to do complain... ur feedback will be appreciated to do the re-improvement... smile.gif

The Information Above Based On My Personal Experience / The Knowledge From Cal-Lab

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first off, thanks for the pm.

To answer your questions.

1. My PC and equipment (modem) are not that near to the window.
2. It was correctly installed, i'm an IT undergraduate, things like these are a piece of cake to set up (and obvious too).

The lightning strikes rarely go through the power lines, but the phone line is what caused my modem to be burnt (including the network card which is connected to the modem).

Recommend me a good set up specifically to protect my modem only, since its the most vulnerable piece of electrical equipment i have. (it got destroyed for a total of 4 times already). From the testimonials i see, the cal-lab seem to work, my pc is on and connected to the internet for close to 24/7 so i need good protection. I will consider to buy the lightning isolator from u, but no promises of course (since i just bought a RM170 Surge Protector a few days ago). Thanks.

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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 19 2006, 11:06 PM)
first off, thanks for the pm.

To answer your questions.

1. My PC and equipment (modem) are not that near to the window.
2. It was correctly installed, i'm an IT undergraduate, things like these are a piece of cake to set up (and obvious too).

The lightning strikes rarely go through the power lines, but the phone line is what caused my modem to be burnt (including the network card which is connected to the modem).

Recommend me a good set up specifically to protect my modem only, since its the most vulnerable piece of electrical equipment i have. (it got destroyed for a total of 4 times already). From the testimonials i see, the cal-lab seem to work, my pc is on and connected to the internet for close to 24/7 so i need good protection. I will consider to buy the lightning isolator from u, but no promises of course (since i just bought a RM170 Surge Protector a few days ago). Thanks.
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but for cal-lab, they not recommended to protect telephone line only if u intended to protect modem... today i just read a news tat a house got a direct lightning strike and caused most of the house equipment burnt... if u insisted to protect telephone line only, i will let u do so but u bear the risks urself, since u not accept my recommendation... sorry tat if offended u...

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since u often get strike from telephone line, i suggest u SF9812DSL model, it have a SKPX module (same as a fuse)... if ur SKPX telephone module strucked by lightning, the cost of replacement exchange was only RM10 if only the SKPX dead... if unlucky tat lightning come from power line and the surge will struck SF9812DSL, it will cost u RM25 for replacement exchange... but RM25 saved ur PC equipments which may cost u a bomb to repair or exchange hardware, its a nice deal for u... smile.gif FYI, u can get SF9812DSL + some extra units of SKPX module... once lightning strucked, u able to change the module by urself with the extra modules and continue the protection for 24/7

otherwise u can get MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF to protect power line and telephone line separately too...

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oh ya, i did not say i wanted to protect my telephone line only, what i want to protect is the whole modem, which means protection for both power line & telephone line so that my modem is completely safe.
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oh ya, i did not say i wanted to protect my telephone line only, what i want to protect is the whole modem, which means protection for both power line & telephone line so that my modem is completely safe.
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cant concern with only protecting modem...maybe ur surge come from power line and struck ur PC, and the surge carry from mobo passing thru lan cable and strucked ur modem too... just like protected front door but not protecting back door...

but i would suggest SF9812DSL + spare SKPX module if u 24/7...
more cost effective to replacement exchange and change the SKPX by urself, so u can continue 24/7 with protection after strucked... flex.gif

and all of ur PC equipment (1set PC and 1 unit modem only) power's source come from SF9812DSL by using the multisocket... i can assure that ur PC + modem 99.9% safe... if u still worry the surge will pass thru modem and strucked ur mobo, get SLAN1236 for lan cable... dont worry the broadband speed will reduced, i using SF9512DSL + SLAN1236, my BT able to reach 50kbps++ with my 512 streamyx smile.gif

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my PC so far has never been damaged due to lightning strikes, only my modem and network card has.

anyway i'll think about it, if my overpriced belkin protector fails again i'll get one IT pack from u. So far lightning has striked my house twice after buying the belkin and my modem is still safe.

oh btw, i have this model which got burnt a year ago SFTV9822FC, it came with my astro.

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Its a nice product. Bought from a nice seller and hope nothing goes of to my TV /AV set. I have change 3 TV in less than 2 years because of lightning.
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Nov 21 2006, 01:57 AM)
my PC so far has never been damaged due to lightning strikes, only my modem and network card has.

anyway i'll think about it, if my overpriced belkin protector fails again i'll get one IT pack from u. So far lightning has striked my house twice after buying the belkin and my modem is still safe.

oh btw, i have this model which got burnt a year ago SFTV9822FC, it came with my astro.
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u means belkin dead but ur current modem safe?

ur dead SFTV9822FC, can do replacement exchange with me (if can COD) with RM25 only... then i will give u back the working 9822 for u... otherwise u can proceed to cal-lab office located at bandar utama to do replacement by urself...

QUOTE(xetajones @ Nov 21 2006, 10:09 AM)
Its a nice product. Bought from a nice seller and hope nothing goes of to my TV /AV set. I have change 3 TV in less than 2 years because of lightning.
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thanks... pls update me if anything wrong on ur equipment and cal-lab devices

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 19 2006, 05:45 PM)
if possible, pls draw up the completed diagram of ALL ur PC connectivity and ANY equipments connecting to each other... I will do recommendation for correct models and correct installations... if still doubt on me, pls make an appointment and meet with me / cal-lab inventor personally... smile.gif
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So u are the founder/inventor for Cal-Lab? No offence, but i just feel surpress to see u here, if u really are, because if u really are u must be a very busy man smile.gif
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So u are the founder/inventor for Cal-Lab? No offence, but i just feel surpress to see u here, if u really are, because if u really are u must be a very busy man smile.gif
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nope... i not the inventor and not cal-lab staff as well... but i met inventor and talk with his sometimes... i helping him to sell his product and provide support for customers to assure tat his product protecting your equipments... smile.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 21 2006, 12:15 PM)
u means belkin dead but ur current modem safe?
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nope, the belkin is still good.
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nope, the belkin is still good.
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pm from Xonius, Nov 21 2006, 06:33 PM
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lol, not like that, i have 2 belkin units, 1 6500 amps, another 75k amps, the 6.5k amps is still working, but cant protect my modem, the 75k amps is still working and has protected my modem (got struck twice, but both still ok).

sure, i will get a unit from u if my belkin fails again.

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hi, just would like to know if you have Lightning Isolator for keyphone (LAEA/25A/0599/M). Pls pm me for price if you have, thanx.
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hi, just would like to know if you have Lightning Isolator for keyphone (LAEA/25A/0599/M). Pls pm me for price if you have, thanx.
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yes... we have the units to protect PABX...
even the Panasonic and Siemen PABX system using cal-lab lightning isolator to protect their equipments...

the models u need for keyphone system was SKPX-M(AR), MLPX-BB and SL9602F
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Dec 1 2006, 11:05 PM)
yes... we have the units to protect PABX...
even the Panasonic and Siemen PABX system using cal-lab lightning isolator to protect their equipments...

the models u need for keyphone system was SKPX-M(AR), MLPX-BB and SL9602F
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rite2.. it is a cube sized fuse rite? how much are you selling per quantity? i'm interested.
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rite2.. it is a cube sized fuse rite? how much are you selling per quantity? i'm interested.
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depend the number of units tat u ordered... if u order several quantity or above Rm100, will provide u attractive price... smile.gif

do u have any technician to install cal-lab for u? need some unique tools to install those telephone cable onto cal-lab base (mdf)...
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Dude...what i mean is this item

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So how much/unit ur talking about...pm me the price..thank you

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Hi,

Remember me?

"4. heaming - SF9512DSL-MS2+3 (COD on 05/05/06, Successful)".

Interested in getting a STV9511 (protection for TV, astro, home theather and DVD) from you? How much? Where can you COD?

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Please check your pm for COD venue.

Does SFTV9622FC also protect antenna input as well as Astro satellite dish input?
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Transfered RM85 to your account via Maybank2u. Check PM for my details.
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Transfered RM85 to your account via Maybank2u. Check PM for my details.
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Yup... Verified u transfer Rm85 into my account... will do postage on next tuesday... thanks again smile.gif
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Thanks Gan for meeting up and passing the stuff over to me. Look forward to buying more products from you in the future.
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Received the SFTV9622FC this morning. Visually inspected to be ok. However there are two complains:

1. The coaxial cables should be a bit longer. I understand that the SFTV9622FC should be as near as the equipment to be protected as possible but 1.5 m should not be a problem. The cables supplied are only 1 m long.

2. Cal-Lab should supply RG-6 satellite coaxial cable (2.4 GHz) instead of the 75 ohm 3C2V coaxial cable for Astro input. 3C2V cable is only good for antenna signal (VHF & UHF) and cannot carry high GHz frequency (Astro) signal.

Anyway the above can be solved by putting in a bit of extra cash in getting the RG-6 cable (for Astro) and a longer 3C2V cable (for antenna). The important thing is that I can rest assure that my electronic audio & video epuipment now are well protected with the SFTV9622FC.

Thanks for the prompt delivery.

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QUOTE(heaming @ Dec 13 2006, 01:58 PM)
Received the SFTV9622FC this morning. Visually inspected to be ok. However there are two complains:

1.  The coaxial cables should be a bit longer. I understand that the SFTV9622FC should be as near as the equipment to be protected as possible but 1.5 m should not be a problem. The cables supplied are only 1 m long.

2.  Cal-Lab should supply RG-6 satellite coaxial cable (2.4 GHz) instead of the 75 ohm 3C2V coaxial cable for Astro input. 3C2V cable is only good for antenna signal (VHF & UHF) and cannot carry high GHz frequency (Astro) signal.

Anyway the above can be solved by putting in a bit of extra cash in getting the RG-6 cable (for Astro) and a longer 3C2V cable (for antenna). The important thing is that I can rest assure that my electronic audio & video epuipment now are well protected with the SFTV9622FC.

Thanks for the prompt delivery.
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thanks for ur feedback... i will forward ur post to the cal-lab inventor for future improvement... hope tat inventor will reply me about your suggestion

thanks again smile.gif
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Hi Gan,
Thanks for the mail and the link.

Please forward this mail to your friend or quote this mail in the forum.

1. If you've noticed in our Order Form, all models with F-connector are marked "nfc" (meaning no F-connector Cable" is being sold but given FOC)
2. Also, at the option column, there is a choice of "cable' or "TP" (for Twist-on Plug). Both are available as Free-of-Charge options. Why offered as FOC options? Because, we cannot find an acceptable solution to the problem.
3. No cable connector manufacturer can pre-fabricate RG6 cable on to Twist-on Plugs.
4. For professional installers, they can opt for ToP and self-install the ToP on to RG6 (This is what ASTRO installers specify and we comply)
5. For DIY home users, ready made F-C cables can only be on 3C2V. The result? An estimated loss of signal of  1~2%. (by additional length of cable)
6. The longer the cable the higher the loss! Thus, 1-M choice between 2-evils!

Thank your friend in the forum for his valuable suggestions and observations.
Ask him to shoot me a email, if he needs more clarifications.

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Oops, my full text was not posted.

My comments (should use this word instead of complains) on the coaxial cables are trivial matters. I was even surprised that Cal-Lab provides coaxial cables with the isolator. However, I don't feel comfortable that the last mile cable is downgraded from RG-6 to 3C2V. In fact, the slight signal loss is noticeable on my flat panel TV (S-Video connection) and to make matter worst, I've connected an AV composite cable from the Astro decoder to a capture card in my computer which sits 4 meter from the decoder. I replaced the 3C2V cable with a 2m length RG-6 cable with ToP as end F connectors. The total cost is only RM6 and problem solved.

One suggestion is that if the coaxial cables need to be short, then why not lengthen the power cable so that the isolator can be near the equipment it is protecting?

One last question. Nowadays, there were news reports that cable theft in TNB substations are rampant. If the star point earth cable of the transformer is stolen, the floating neutral will cause voltage surges (as high as 400v) which can damage electronic equipment. Is Cal-Lab lightning isolators protect equipment from these power surges?

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Hi Gan;
Thanks again.
The problems were not new! And, at CAL-LAB, we do not wish to find excuses for not doing right things!

1. We offered, and still offer, ToP but no length of cable can be a suitable choice for each situation in each home or office!. So we do not provide cable. You should have opted for ToP while purchasing and then find your suitable length of RG6. We even have samples of how to use ToP on RG6 on display! But many still prefer ready-made FC-cable (even with the expected loss). So we also accomodated and offer choice of two lesser evils. We do not expect users to be 100% satisfied. So we mention "nfc" ("sold without F-connector cable" but given FOC - hoping that Free item would not attract too much complaint!
2. There are users who would like to have just enough cable-lengths for each cable involved! Through the past 11 years, we have few complaints on "why not this cable be 0.5 M or 3M (from another)? So we decided to stick to what we do - hopefully would satisfy most users BUT we do not expect everyone to be happy. Thanks for your friend's suggestions anyway.
3. Power supply abormalities? Go to www.cal-lab.com then click on <Vital Info> right at the bottom of the left column on front page. Look at item #12 about different types of surges. Neutral OC phenomenon is mentioned by us. We had once even received a email some time ago from a customer in Seputeh whose house was accidentally supplied 3-phase without proper NEUTRAL wire. As a result, all his household appliances that were without CLLI, were damaged. But 11 of his items protected with CLLI were safe. He happily paid RM25 for each CLLI replace-exchanged. Then he wrote a email to us to thank us! And, he was only using standard CLLI - compared to SL-AR series, which is designed to also protect "low-volt-high-current"
4. We wish we could make everyone happy! But sad to say, it is not possible. So we make decisions (expecting some complaints and probably some happy emails, sometimes). BUT it is our business to provide solutions to dangers from lightning! So, good suggestions are most welcome, when we can adopt and make changes for the better for more users!
5. And so, we put prayers, wisdom, technologies, knowledge, goodwill and lots of mutual understandings into our daily ingredients. Just, hopefully we might live a life less stressful and hopefully help make some other's lives a little more joyful, more peaceful and a little more meaningful! Once in a while, when a powerful lightning strikes, not only our patented ISOLATION technique might save some equipment but hopefully some user's life might be saved (even without the user realizing that someone could have been killed, if not for CLLI's ISOLATION technique! Because, with CLLI you only see badly damaged CLLI, most of the times & all the times so far!)

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I interested on Model : SFTV9622FC-MS2+3.

This is for my :
1.) PC
2.) LCD TV
3.) Antenal cable (PAL-RF)

Few question here:
1.) My antenal cable head is 1 male & 1 female (come from LCD). But both of my LCD TV & device on the wall is female head. Thatwise now i cant watch the tv. May i know this model is two MALE head or FEMALE head?

2.) Should i buy another antenal cable to connect the cal-lab to wall device.

3.) Can I add another normal 3 pin socket to the cal-lab 3 pin socket? Will it spoile the cal-lab? Pls give a advise.

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1.) My antenal cable head is 1 male & 1 female (come from LCD). But both of my LCD TV & device on the wall is female head. Thatwise now i cant watch the tv. May i know this model is two MALE head or FEMALE head?
i cant 100% get ur means, in order to avoid confusion, i give u cal-lab spec...

FYI, the connector on cal-lab units was female head (1 in 1 out, hole type, same like ur left connector on picture), the antenna cable we provided was male head (both side was stick type, same like ur right connector on picture)... tat means ur wall connector and cal-lab unit was female type...

2.) Should i buy another antenal cable to connect the cal-lab to wall device.
cal-lab provide a antenna cable, F connector cable and telephone cable in SFTV9622FC MS2+3

3.) Can I add another normal 3 pin socket to the cal-lab 3 pin socket? Will it spoile the cal-lab? Pls give a advise.
u can buy multisocket or extension socket and plug on cal-lab unit, wont harm and reduce the protection level, but recommended the length of the extension socket not exceed 2meter and cal-lab unit place beside ur protected equipment... longer length of cable, higher chances to get static charges
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How many pc of antenna cable provide?

How long the cable for cal-lab?

Satellite-Pack (Full Isolation version even at LNB cable)
SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 (RM108.00) + Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00) ->
What is this Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00), what function of this?

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How many pc of antenna cable provide?

How long the cable for cal-lab?

Satellite-Pack (Full Isolation version even at LNB cable)
SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 (RM108.00) + Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00) ->
What is this Full-Isolation FC-module (RM33.00), what function of this?
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only 1 antenna cable provided, the length around 1meter-1.5meter

the astro module (F-connector) have it own isolation module... protection increased and not sharing the same module... but i dont have Satelite-pack on hand now, only have AV-pack which have the almost similiar spec...

difference between 9622 and satelite/AV pack, satelite/AV pack can support 10a current and more multisocket, less hassle of cabling...
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You know what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

So liek, today I went down Centrepoint to replace my CAL LAB stuff.. it is a SP9201DSL and then fine I paid RM10 and I brought home one that looks like a replacement for the model I bought and then.......


I plugged it in and it doesn't work.. only to realise its a SP9201.
WTH @!&@$!@ Now I have to go back there again tmrw? Goodness... can't the staff be more responsible. Its so far to travel all the way there...

I'm going to storm right into their office again tmrw... vmad.gif waste my time.
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sigh... will forward ur feedback to cal-lab management, will improve the office to do their work... who u deal with? Joey (young guy) or Aunt Lucy (old auntie)? or is a new staff?

if u confirmed tat units not able to run with with streamyx connection, pls do exchange with office... sorry for inconvenient... perhaps u can ask the staff to try the SP9201DSL to plug on their office's streamyx connection before u leave there...

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sigh... will forward ur feedback to cal-lab management, will improve the office to do their work... who u deal with? Joey (young guy) or Aunt Lucy (old auntie)? or is a new staff?

if u confirmed tat units not able to run with with streamyx connection, pls do exchange with office... sorry for inconvenient... perhaps u can ask the staff to try the SP9201DSL to plug on their office's streamyx connection before u leave there...
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Dealt with the auntie at the front desk. Hmmm I'm going there tmrw, if lets say they dun have stock, can i like... make them post it to me? sleep.gif

I know its not in their policy but then again, I have already went there like... its gonna be the 2nd time tmrw... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Dec 29 2006, 10:53 PM)
Dealt with the auntie at the front desk. Hmmm I'm going there tmrw, if lets say they dun have stock, can i like... make them post it to me? sleep.gif

I know its not in their policy but then again, I have already went there like... its gonna be the 2nd time tmrw...  sweat.gif
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should be not problem for cal-lab to post ur unit to ur front door... u can try to request from them... FYI, i think 2molo they not working on 5th week of saturday...

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Bro what is the difference between DIY and P&S? Mind explaining? Do we need special skills for DIY?
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Bro what is the difference between DIY and P&S? Mind explaining? Do we need special skills for DIY?
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P&S (power & socket) : u can use the cal-lab units immediately without technical installation such as connecting the power line manually... in simple term was plug and play... example : SC0039 model

DIY : u need some electrical knowledge for installation to avoid miss connect the power line which have 3 cable inside... but it more compact and smaller than P&S version, can customize easily to suit ur requirement... example : SC9517 model
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Hi, i'm interested in the trinity it-pack.
fyi, i'm using it for my pc and its peripherals, and phone line for streamyx.

expecting a total max power usage of nearly 2kW.

is this model good enough?

thanks.
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Hi, i'm interested in the trinity it-pack.
fyi, i'm using it for my pc and its peripherals, and phone line for streamyx.

expecting a total max power usage of nearly 2kW.

is this model good enough?

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IT pack had 4*3pin power socket and 3*2pin power socket

it can support 10A which means can support till at least 2000w according from this calculation 230v, 10a = 2300w but we would recommended not exceed 2000w which able to remain the effective protection level...

if u have other pc connecting to ur modem, tat would different case... if purchase only a IT pack, just suitable for a set of pc and modem...

if u want to use telephone/cordless phone beside ur pc with streamyx... get MDSC0039 & SP9201DAF instead... bcos not recommeded to plug ADSL splitter fitter after IT pack, it only design for broadband signal...
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Thanks for the info.
I cant find the model SP9201DAF in cal-lab's website. Is it equivalent to SF9512-DSL?

If i'm not mistaken, MDSC0039 is a single 3-pin socket outlet, am i correct?

You have any pictures of them both?

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QUOTE(twenty6dBm @ Jan 13 2007, 02:13 PM)
Thanks for the info.
I cant find the model SP9201DAF in cal-lab's website. Is it equivalent to SF9512-DSL?

If i'm not mistaken, MDSC0039 is a single 3-pin socket outlet, am i correct?

You have any pictures of them both?

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Yes, MDSC0039 only have 1*3pin power socket... but u can purchase multi socket/ extension socket plug on it... and protection level wont effected

SP9201DAF = ordinary ADSL splitter filter + lightning protection

SP9201DSL = plug it between ordinary ADSL splitter filter and modem

SF9512DSL = MDSC0039 + SP9201DSL (only can support broadband signal - after ADSL splitter filter or direct line without ADSL splitter filter)

Trinity IT pack = Trinity Power Pack + SP9201DSL

MDSC0039 + multi socket + SP9201DSL = Trinity IT pack

MDSC0039 + multi socket + SP9201DAF = Trinity IT pack + support analog cordless telephone nod.gif

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Nice.

Ok then, put me up for:
1x MDSC0039 - 1 socket 3 pin 10A, right?
1x SP9201DAF - splitter at main tel socket, right?

PM me the prices, need you to do postage on em.

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Nice, collected it today, parcel arrived yesterday.
thanks alot~~~

just noticed my cables are pretty messy >.< need to reroute em rclxub.gif

great follow up provided by gkl83. thumbup.gif

deal done~~~ biggrin.gif
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whats da diff between SD-4C and SD-8C? thx ya !
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whats da diff between SD-4C and SD-8C? thx ya !
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basically SD-4C and SD-8C are the same things... protect the power and RJ45 (Lan Cable), all of the RJ45 connector had 8pin...
normal networking only used pin 1, pin 2, pin 3 and pin 6...
but some special equipment such as ATM machines will used 8 pins (pin 1 ~ pin 8)...
which means SD-4C protect the RJ45 used 4pins only and SD-8C will protect all of the pin...
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I would like to know what is the difference between Satellite-Pack and SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 model? what is the Full-Isolation FC-module? I have a satellite TV (not astro, it is actually a big disc with motor driven, and a digital/analog receiver), so which one is better to protect my TV and receiver.

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I would like to know what is the difference between Satellite-Pack and SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 model? what is the Full-Isolation FC-module? I have a satellite TV (not astro, it is actually a big disc with motor driven, and a digital/analog receiver), so which one is better to protect my TV and receiver.

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basically the satelite pack and SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 protect the same equipments, but satelite pack have more power sockets... and satelite pack's satelite module not sharing with the same PCB board, it have separate module for better protection which avoid sharing...

is ur satelite TV using the F-connector cable like those astro machine? can ensure whether ur cable can be connect to cal-lab device if the connectors are different...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 4 2007, 09:36 AM)
basically the satelite pack and SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 protect the same equipments, but satelite pack have more power sockets... and satelite pack's satelite module not sharing with the same PCB board, it have separate module for better protection which avoid sharing...

is ur satelite TV using the F-connector cable like those astro machine? can ensure whether ur cable can be connect to cal-lab device if the connectors are different...
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Thanks, then I'd like to place an order for 1 x satellite pack. I think my cable connector is F-type, BTW, can it be repaired if hit by lightning? if possible, can we COD at sunway pyramid ?



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Thanks, then I'd like to place an order for 1 x satellite pack. I think my cable connector is F-type, BTW, can it be repaired if hit by lightning? if possible, can we COD at sunway pyramid ?
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okie... i dont have ready stock for satelite pack now... but i can COD on 11/2 night at sunway pyramid/esso petrol station...
or maybe 10/2 (before 6pm) as well but preferably at SS2/centrepoint, i have a dinner at damansara jaya...

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Thanks for processing my order so quick.. I made payment already.. hopefully you can send tomorrow!


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i bought the SLAN1236 model

i already ground the earth wire to a 3pin homeplug
so should i turn on the plug ? or just leave the plug 'off' ?
will it still working ?

hope to hear from u

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i bought the SLAN1236 model

i already ground the earth wire to a 3pin homeplug
so should i turn on the plug ? or just leave the plug 'off' ?
will it still working ?

hope to hear from u

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u can plug it on wall socket and leave the plug "off"... i doing it tat ways too but i switch on bcos i plug in onto multisocket... tongue.gif
ensure tat the SLAN1236 ground cable connected to 3pin plug's earth pin... but not the live pin or neutral pin... smile.gif
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There's a green cable that comes out of the SP9201DAF, where should I connect it to?

Is this the "earth" wire?


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There's a green cable that comes out of the SP9201DAF, where should I connect it to?

Is this the "earth" wire?
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yup... green cable indicated to connect to earth...
if not connected the cable, cal-lab will get strucked easily if not able to isolate properly...
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Do I connect the green wire to the green one in the telekom telephone mount box?

you know, the small square box that telekom connects at every home phone line.

If I only want to protect my phone line and not power, I only need the SP9201-DAF right? So I can just throw away my d-link micro filter and replace it with it?



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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Mar 17 2007, 07:01 AM)
Do I connect the green wire to the green one in the telekom telephone mount box?

you know, the small square box that telekom connects at every home phone line.

If I only want to protect my phone line and not power, I only need the SP9201-DAF right? So I can just throw away my d-link micro filter and replace it with it?
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the telekom telephone mount box tat u refering should be MDF (main distribution frame)... if there have the box's screw tighten on the wall, u can attach the green wire on the it... but still recommended to connect on earth pin unless the screw was "shallow" deeply into the wall, otherwise the electric resistance will be high and not able to isolate well...

Yup, SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter... but still recommended to protect power line (and others if have), cal-lab wont responsible tat ur equipments burnt (with SP9201DAF only) because of the "back kick" from power line (or others)

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dude..
can u recommend me which one..
i need for use with my computer, router and phone line..
for the 2nd time in 4 months my mobo and router kong because l
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sigh...

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dude..
can u recommend me which one..
i need for use with my computer, router and phone line..
for the 2nd time in 4 months my mobo and router kong because l
ighting strike my phone line..
sigh...
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SF9512DSL, SF9812DSL or IT pack would the best choices for u... this 3 models will protect PC and router... those models wont protect effective if u had other external equipments connected to PC/router since there have a back kick for lightning... if u means to protect PC/router, make sure not other equipments connect to ur PC/router...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Mar 19 2007, 09:34 PM)
SF9512DSL, SF9812DSL or IT pack would the best choices for u... this 3 models will protect PC and router... those models wont protect effective if u had other external equipments connected to PC/router since there have a back kick for lightning... if u means to protect PC/router, make sure not other equipments connect to ur PC/router...
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what u mean by external equip ?? hmm.gif

izzit speaker,printer etc..??
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what u mean by external equip ?? hmm.gif

izzit speaker,printer etc..??
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example like this... ur pc and router will burn also if the lightning back kick from "other pc" (external equipment) if the "other pc" not protected...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Mar 19 2007, 10:21 PM)
example like this... ur pc and router will burn also if the lightning back kick from "other pc" (external equipment) if the "other pc" not protected...
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owhhokk..

that mean other equipment tu other computer lar..now i get it..

btw..izzit confirm my com and router not kong if use that u suggest to me just now..??
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QUOTE(aBs- @ Mar 19 2007, 10:25 PM)
owhhokk..

that mean other equipment tu other computer lar..now i get it..

btw..izzit confirm my com and router not kong if use that u suggest to me just now..??
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yup... IF only router and pc connected to each other...

not only the "other pc", still have many possibilities... maybe u connected the external equipment/cable on ur "pc" ? on ur "modem" ? that means had a "hole" on the boundary which allowed ligthning to struck ur units... good installation such as this if u had complex equipments connected to each others...

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i draw my layout..

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1.phone line and splitter outside my room.

2.pc,router,phone in same area which in my room

3.things need to protect router and 1 set pc..

suggestion..??


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QUOTE(aBs- @ Mar 19 2007, 11:06 PM)
suggestion..??
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assume all the equipments and cal-lab devices located at ur room... except the "other pc"

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w00t!!!...products received in g00d condition...

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need a protection for pc with wireless modem....

and i oso need to protect tv with astro devices as well...pls let me know wat model to use....if can...need cod this sat morning can ah?
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Q: need a protection for pc with wireless modem....
A: SF9812DSL (recommended), SF9512DSL, SF9512DSL MS2+3, etc

Q: and i oso need to protect tv with astro devices as well...
A: SFTV9622FC, SFTV9622FC MS2+3, AV pack, etc
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hey...i want the device can protect my modem and router through LAN to my pc and with line together..which one is better?
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hey...i want the device can protect my modem and router through LAN to my pc and with line together..which one is better?
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assumed u only have standalone pc which without any connection from external...
the SF9812DSL, SF9512DSL, IT pack, SF9512DSL MS2+3 will suit on ur requirement

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hi, i am looking at the STV9511 cuz it has the most plugs, i need it for my TV, astro, DVD player and Hifi....is that model the one for me?

i also need one for my PC, modem, printer,scanner....any recomendation?

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QUOTE(seanl @ Apr 8 2007, 06:02 PM)
hi, i am looking at the STV9511 cuz it has the most plugs, i need it for my TV, astro, DVD player and Hifi....is that model the one for me?

i also need one for my PC, modem, printer,scanner....any recomendation?

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STV9511 doesnt support astro protection... and it only had 1*3pin power socket...
if u look for most power sockets and support astro protection, SFTV9622FC/AV pack/Satelite pack will suit with ur requirement...

assumed u only have standalone pc which without any connection from external...
the SF9812DSL, SF9512DSL, IT pack, SF9512DSL MS2+3 will suit on ur requirement
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 8 2007, 06:05 PM)
STV9511 doesnt support astro protection... and it only had 1*3pin power socket...
if u look for most power sockets and support astro protection, SFTV9622FC/AV pack/Satelite pack will suit with ur requirement...

assumed u only have standalone pc which without any connection from external...
the SF9812DSL, SF9512DSL, IT pack, SF9512DSL MS2+3 will suit on ur requirement
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how much will the SFTV9622FC/AV pack/Satelite pack be?
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how much will the SFTV9622FC/AV pack/Satelite pack be?
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SFTV9622FC-MS2+3 -> RRP:RM113, 15%off , Now:RM97.

AV-pack -> RRP:RM143, 15%off, Now:RM122

Satellite-Pack -> RRP:RM133, 15%off, Now:RM114

another cheaper options (2 models combination)
SL-MS2+3 + MD-FC = RM63 + RM33
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gkl83 i dont want got plug pretection coz i'll get an AVR. I just want to protect the phoneline to my modem and frm router to 2 pc. So if i get
SP9201-DAF AND SLAN-1236 for my LAN protection ok or not sweat.gif

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gkl83 i dont want got plug pretection coz i'll get an AVR. I just want to protect the phoneline to my modem and frm router to 2 pc. Sp if i get
SP9201-DAF AND SLAN-1236 for my LAN protection.
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FYI, if u insisted not to protect the power line and used cal-lab devices (protect tel line and lan cable only) as well... cal-lab wont responsible if ur pc units burnt because the lightning surge may come from power line (AVR doesnt design for lightning protection)... its was not cal-lab fail to protect ur equipments

SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter (tel line protection)
SLAN1236 to protect pc networking cable (lan cable) only
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FYI, if u insisted not to protect the power line and used cal-lab devices (protect tel line and lan cable only) as well... cal-lab wont responsible if ur pc units burnt because the lightning surge may come from power line (AVR doesnt design for lightning protection)... its was not cal-lab fail to protect ur equipments

SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter (tel line protection)
SLAN1236 to protect pc networking cable (lan cable) only
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SC0039 (10A)?10A izit support pur local use 13A?


Added on April 8, 2007, 8:34 pmei..i think i get the IT pack is more better izit?I'm not familier with this thing...u give comment rclxms.gif how much is the Trinity Promo Pack now(RM123)?
If this thing fried, still got warranty ar? rolleyes.gif

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I want SP9201DAF, SLAN1236 &
SC0039 (10A)?10A izit support pur local use 13A?


Added on April 8, 2007, 8:34 pmei..i think i get the IT pack is more better izit?I'm not familier with this thing...u give comment rclxms.gif how much is the Trinity Promo Pack now(RM123)?
If this thing fried, still got warranty ar? rolleyes.gif
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SC0039 not suitable to use together with other models, only for the equipment which have required power source only and design for 1 to 1...
MDSCO039 will be able to combine with other models and able 1 to many by using multisocket...

10A means for the equipment's power consumption, not refering to TNB's voltage... recommended not to exceed 10A otherwise the protection level will be reduce or cal-lab burn easily...

if u prefer the most cost effective, i would recommend for SF9812DSL or MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF... cheaper cost for replacement exchange... if u expect for more socket and neater cabling, IT pack/ SF9512DSL MS2+3 will fit into...

about the warranty, pls read below
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Hi, I'm looking for a 4-6 port, something like SLMS4 .. but I noticed it stop production already.

I've been looking at Belkin's SurgeMaster as well. Can you point me to a similar product you have ?
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Hi, I'm looking for a 4-6 port, something like SLMS4 .. but I noticed it stop production already.

I've been looking at Belkin's SurgeMaster as well. Can you point me to a similar product you have ?
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Twin Power Pack, it had 4*3pin and 6*2pin power socket
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Will you be at PC Fair this week?? Seems there is 30% discount but dunno for what model. Lookiing forward to have 1 unit which can protect my PC which connect to Modem and phone line. Nowadays, it always raining during office hours. Cannot go back to switch off my PC.
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 13 2007, 05:55 PM)
Twin Power Pack, it had 4*3pin and 6*2pin power socket
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IT-Pack
SF9512DSL-MS2 (RM93) + SL-MS2+3 (RM69) -> RRP:RM123, 15%off, Now:RM105 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

I'm using it for my computer, so is it ok?
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Will you be at PC Fair this week?? Seems there is 30% discount but dunno for what model. Lookiing forward to have 1 unit which can protect my PC which connect to Modem and phone line. Nowadays, it always raining during office hours. Cannot go back to switch off my PC.
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sorry for slow reply... the 30% discount only available during PC fair...
i had not enough time to check out with u about ur requirement and installation in order to recommend to correct models...

QUOTE(fuzzy @ Apr 15 2007, 04:20 AM)
How about this one?

IT-Pack
SF9512DSL-MS2 (RM93) + SL-MS2+3 (RM69) -> RRP:RM123, 15%off, Now:RM105 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

I'm using it for my computer, so is it ok?
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it will work fine for ur PC as well... it had 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
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hi there, its me again (if u remember lah), my belkin surge protector failed me, damn they suck, not to mention very expensive. Recommend me a fail-safe protection for my whole PC system, where priority is given to the modem/ethernet line/telephone line, the lightning always strike my modem and network card, everytime that happens i lose RM100 worth of hardware. The PC itself is usually very resistant to such strikes.

So, in essence what i want is protection for:

Modem, LAN Card (ethernet port), Telephone line (the one connected to modem), PC.

thanks.
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hi there, its me again (if u remember lah), my belkin surge protector failed me, damn they suck, not to mention very expensive. Recommend me a fail-safe protection for my whole PC system, where priority is given to the modem/ethernet line/telephone line, the lightning always strike my modem and network card, everytime that happens i lose RM100 worth of hardware. The PC itself is usually very resistant to such strikes.

So, in essence what i want is protection for:

Modem, LAN Card (ethernet port), Telephone line (the one connected to modem), PC.

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if all the equipment u mentioned located at the same place... the this models will fine for u = SF9812DSL, SF9512DSL... if u look for more socket or support higher current = SF9512DSL MS2+3, IT pack...

but make sure ur installation dont have any back kick for lightning, otherwise ur PC set wont safe even used the most expensive lightning protection...
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i want the best protection, especially for my modem, my pc is pretty resistant to lightning strikes, the one that does most damage is the one that travels from the phone lines to my modem and ethernet card.

lightning always strike behind my house..for unknown reasons.

i might be installing a lightning rod soon.

BTW, what do u mean by 'back kick'?

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One modem just got fried again even after using cal lab... I'm telling ya, it doesn't stop 100% from the telephone line to the ADSL modem. You wanna know why I know its from the line and not from the power?

1) My extension plug still works
2) My PC is still undamaged
3) The modem adapter still works pefectly.... my new modem is still using the old adapter now.


Kthx so much for cal lab... btw, the cal lab isolator is still working. but the modem is gone... i dont get it... sigh... maybe its just me bad luck. sad.gif
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM)
One modem just got fried again even after using cal lab... I'm telling ya, it doesn't stop 100% from the telephone line to the ADSL modem. You wanna know why I know its from the line and not from the power?

1) My extension plug still works
2) My PC is still undamaged
3) The modem adapter still works pefectly.... my new modem is still using the old adapter now.
Kthx so much for cal lab... btw, the cal lab isolator is still working. but the modem is gone... i dont get it... sigh... maybe its just me bad luck.  sad.gif
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wow same case as me, only that i'm currently using belkin. Everything is fine, except my modem and lan card, u better check your lan card as well, its most probably fried too.
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BTW, what do u mean by 'back kick'?
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QUOTE(J-Slade @ Apr 23 2007, 03:46 AM)
One modem just got fried again even after using cal lab... I'm telling ya, it doesn't stop 100% from the telephone line to the ADSL modem. You wanna know why I know its from the line and not from the power?

1) My extension plug still works
2) My PC is still undamaged
3) The modem adapter still works pefectly.... my new modem is still using the old adapter now.
Kthx so much for cal lab... btw, the cal lab isolator is still working. but the modem is gone... i dont get it... sigh... maybe its just me bad luck.  sad.gif
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that is the "back kick"... he using SP9201DSL only which protect tel line but not the power line... the surge come from power line thru the power adapter and strucked the modem, but surge not coming from tel line... and i mentioned to J-Slade bear the risk himself if he insist want to protect the tel line only, although i recommended for correct models... even though used the belkin brand which protect the tel line only, the result with be the same...

power adapter sometimes wont burnt as well even got the surge, if may able to overcome fluctuation of the electric but modem not able to overcome it... some equipments are sensitive on electric, some are not... if those sensitive 1 they may not able to handle more than 0.1A electric as well... that why SL-AR (1.5A) was designed for low power comsumption and senstive equipment... lets say we plug a equipment which only 0.5A, and used SC0039 which can support up to 10A... cal-lab wont work efficiently if the lightning surge was 1.5A but cal-lab support 10A equipment. the extra 1A will enough the burn the sensitive equipment.... somemore the fuse in the extension socket can support up to 13A and ur PC must be 5A at least... i strongly advised that use correct models for correct equipments... not free lunch in this world...

such as this PSU spec, it can support up to 7A...
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furthermore, all the equipment sure have the lifespan, wear and tear will occur... so pls dont think tat after used cal-lab and our equipments will alive forever...

sometimes we can heard tat lan port is fried by lightning but modem still working fine... i had a real case from my fren... which means the his modem able to "tolerate" with surge but not the lan port... that why i keep saying the installation is the most critical...
QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 22 2007, 10:06 PM)
but make sure ur installation dont have any back kick for lightning, otherwise ur PC set wont safe even used the most expensive lightning protection...
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if i told cal-lab staffs about J-Slade equipment installation and the models he using, sure they will say definitely unsafe... so far i used cal-lab 1year++, only 1 units cal-lab burnt by lightning when i online during heavy rain but my pc safe... the sig below was my "obsoleted" rig spec and they still alive since 12/2004, not hardware replacement before...

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hmm, i donno bout CAL-LAB la, but when using my belkin, i protect both power socket and telephone line together, there were no loop holes as far as i can tell cus all hardware connected to only 1 surge protector.

if i do all as u say after getting CAL-LAB (using IT pack that u recommended), and my modem still get burnt, will there be a warranty for that?
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Apr 23 2007, 09:36 PM)
hmm, i donno bout CAL-LAB la, but when using my belkin, i protect both power socket and telephone line together, there were no loop holes as far as i can tell cus all hardware connected to only 1 surge protector.

if i do all as u say after getting CAL-LAB (using IT pack that u recommended), and my modem still get burnt, will there be a warranty for that?
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u can purchase RM10 insurance for ur PC equipments, but T&C as well...
the insurance will valid for the correct installation... u can get RM5k from insurance company if ur equipment confirmed damaged by lightning only and cal-lab failed to protect...

in fact, the insurance company wont do non profit business, if insurance company know the cal-lab not effective on lightning protection, sure they wont affiliate with cal-lab which may caused them pay plenty times for RM5k... tongue.gif

but if u confirmed without any back kick, without insurance is fine...
isolation method had patented by USA, which means it is effective enough to protect equipment so the USA permitted this copyright only owned by cal lab owner, so far i hvnt hear the belkin get any patent from any country...

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oh like that one ah, RM5k is quite alot, anyway quote me a price for the set u recommended, i want it to be able to protect my equipments at least 99.9% of the time. And i'd like the insurance too.
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oh like that one ah, RM5k is quite alot, anyway quote me a price for the set u recommended, i want it to be able to protect my equipments at least 99.9% of the time. And i'd like the insurance too.
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if u using 1 set of pc and 1 unit modem/router, plus dont have other equipments connecting to ur PC/modem/router which will caused the back kick...

SF9812DSL (recommended), SF9512DSL, SF9512DSLMS2+3 and IT pack

but the insurance pay by yearly, RM10 for Rm5k yearly, insurance wont cover back kick surge... and u need to fill up the form and list all the equipments serial number that u intend to cover by insurance...
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This is the hardware i own that will be connected to a power point, PC, Speakers, Printer, Modem, External HDD, Monitor. (i usually unplug the External HDD and Printer when not in use).

IT Pack is enough already rite?
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QUOTE(Xonius @ Apr 25 2007, 05:27 PM)
This is the hardware i own that will be connected to a power point, PC, Speakers, Printer, Modem, External HDD, Monitor. (i usually unplug the External HDD and Printer when not in use).

IT Pack is enough already rite?
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yup, IT pack is enough for u if u needed for more sockets at the same time...
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For one set of pc and some extra plugs for charges, which one do you suggest me to get?

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For one set of pc and some extra plugs for charges, which one do you suggest me to get?
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if the PC without internet / network connection, needed power source only...
SLMS2+3 or Twin Power Pack are the choices...

if with internet... SF9512DSL MS2+3, IT pack

if with internet and ur owned multi socket... SF9812DSL, SF9512DSL...
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Received IT Pack in good condition. A trader to recommend.

gkl83, the RED LED on one of the power sockets of the IT Pack, what does it mean? Is it showing that the lightning protection is working, or just simply turning on when we on the main switch?

Also, I got one idle (other brand) normal RJ-11 lightning surge protector. Can I use it together with the IT pack, so that it will have "two gates" protection? Perhaps "Wall RJ-11 socket" -> "normal RJ-11 surge protector" -> "Cal-Lab IT Pack RJ-11 port" -> Modem ?



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Received IT Pack in good condition. A trader to recommend.

gkl83, the RED LED on one of the power sockets of the IT Pack, what does it mean? Is it showing that the lightning protection is working, or just simply turning on when we on the main switch?

Also, I got one idle (other brand) normal RJ-11 lightning surge protector. Can I use it together with the IT pack, so that it will have "two gates" protection? Perhaps "Wall RJ-11 socket" -> "normal RJ-11 surge protector" -> "Cal-Lab IT Pack RJ-11 port" -> Modem ?
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each of the RED LED indicate input and output for the power source from TNB... it still means it working fine on power source... but the LED not indicate the tel line is working or not...

u can plug with other surge protector, but maybe the broadband connection speed may decrease after filtered by several units of protector...
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Hmm, the catalog and pricelist is very elaborate and extensive. Can u help me out in choosing the best protection against lightning surges for these equipment:

1. ADSL BB Modem
2. Wireless Router
3. CPU + Monitor
4. PC Speakers
5. Phone Line + Phone

And if u have, any other recommendations as well. Ohh, and the pricing too of course. Thanx!
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if all the units tat u mentioned located at the same location/same table areas...
and dont have other PC/laptop connected to wireless router by using lan cable...

MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF are recommended
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 25 2007, 08:08 PM)
if all the units tat u mentioned located at the same location/same table areas...
and dont have other PC/laptop connected to wireless router by using lan cable...

MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF are recommended
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Owh ok thanx. Yep, all located at the same table area.

So i assume the setup is just plug in my 5-gang extension (includes; CPU, monitor, spkr, router, modem) to the MDSC0039 and phone line to the SP9201DAF and i'm all set?
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Owh ok thanx. Yep, all located at the same table area.

So i assume the setup is just plug in my 5-gang extension (includes; CPU, monitor, spkr, router, modem) to the MDSC0039 and phone line to the SP9201DAF and i'm all set?
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yup...

wall socket
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MDSC0039 -> 5-gang extension -> CPU, monitor, speaker, router, modem, etc

tel line
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SP9201DAF -> telephone
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modem

just ensure that dont have any back kick by lightning into ur equipment...
example : used SP9201DSL (tel line only) protect modem, but surge come from power line and strucked modem even the SP9201DSL still working...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 25 2007, 09:19 PM)
yup...

wall socket
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MDSC0039 -> 5-gang extension -> CPU, monitor, speaker, router, modem, etc

tel line
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SP9201DAF -> telephone
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just ensure that dont have any back kick by lightning into ur equipment...
example : used SP9201DSL (tel line only) protect modem, but surge come from power line and strucked modem even the SP9201DSL still working...
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hi... looking for one to protect my modem from lightning... which model u recommend and what is the selling price? Thanks! Could u pm me the info?
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hi... looking for one to protect my modem from lightning... which model u recommend and what is the selling price? Thanks! Could u pm me the info?
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if ur networking installation only invloved 1 set of pc and 1 unit modem/router SF9812DSL recommended... but if u have more than 1 set of pc or other unrelated PC equipments invloved, other cal-lab models will be included, and prefer draw a installation diagram and the length between equipments if possible...
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What do you recommend for me to protect my cordless phone and adsl modem?
Do you have anything that has 2 power sockets and phone line protection?
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What do you recommend for me to protect my cordless phone and adsl modem?
Do you have anything that has 2 power sockets and phone line protection?
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if ur PC, modem and cordless phone located together...
i suggest for SP9201DAF + SLMS2+3 / MDSC0039

SLMS2+3 : 2 * 3pin and 3 * 2pin power socket
MDSC0039 : only have 1 * 3pin power socket
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Thanks, no PC involved, just the cordless phone and the modem.

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Thanks, no PC involved, just the cordless phone and the modem.
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is it ur modem used as wireless modem only? not wired lan cable involved?
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Let's just assume no lan cable involved, however the router does have wired LAN capability.

This is my current setup wall telephone socket -> adsl splitter -> [modem+router+wireless AP] AND [cordless phone.]

Is it sufficient to just have SP9201DAF to protect telephone line surges and would it interfere with the ADSL operation?

Where would the SP9201DAF be placed in the chain? Do I still need to use the adsl splitter?

What's the difference between these two?
SP9201DSL, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)
SP9201DAF, Protect:T -> RRP:RM43, 10%off, Now:RM39 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

You talked about kick back in your previous posts, would it be a concern in this setup since there is no PC involved?

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here the installation diagram according ur requirements if dont have any wired lan connection involved and assume all the equipments located at the same location.
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SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter, replace ur current ADSL spiltter filter with cal-lab SP9201DAF. it able to protect telephone and modem at the same time. it wont interfere the ADSL bandwidth with/without the cordless phone.

SP9201DSL only used on broadband signal which after ADSL splitter filter and it dont have capability to protect analog phone. for those ppl who split after SP9201DSL, the broadband speed/connection may effected when telephone incoming and outgoing.

regarding the back kick, can refer diagram below which the surge may come from "other pc" and strike "ur pc" and "modem" even though used cal-lab products
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jun 18 2007, 04:21 PM)
here the installation diagram according ur requirements if dont have any wired lan connection involved and assume all the equipments located at the same location.
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SP9201DAF  = ADSL splitter filter, replace ur current ADSL spiltter filter with cal-lab SP9201DAF. it able to protect telephone and modem at the same time. it wont interfere the ADSL bandwidth with/without the cordless phone.

SP9201DSL only used on broadband signal which after ADSL splitter filter and it dont have capability to protect analog phone. for those ppl who split after SP9201DSL, the broadband speed/connection may effected when telephone incoming and outgoing.

regarding the back kick, can refer diagram below which the surge may come from "other pc" and strike "ur pc" and "modem" even though used cal-lab products
user posted image
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Thanks for the very good info. Makes things a lot clearer.
Will consider your products, you are able to post thru courier right?

Regarding the back kick again, do you mean that a cal-lab protected supply/system can possiblly back-kick to another cal-lab protected system as long as there is some electrical connection between them? ie. LAN cable, USB cable etc? Quite curious on how this can happen because I thought the protection system would've kicked in on either end when there are transients.

How about models

SF9512, Protect:PT(modem) -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68
SF9512DSL, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM79, 15%off, Now:RM68 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)
SF9512DSL-MS2+3, Protect:PT -> RRP:RM93, 15%off, Now:RM80 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)
SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module), protect:PT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

I see that the difference is that the come with the power supply protectors?

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i able to do courier...

regarding the back kick, example like u locked your house front door, but back door not locked... thief still able to go into your premise steal your stuff... i draw another diagram which is unsafe installation...

Front door : SP9201DAF, MDSC0039
Back door : not protected, from "other PC"... "thief" bypass "other PC" and "steal" ur stuff
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in order to protect back door, u need another models for complete protection such as SLAN1236 for lan cable or SD-4C for other pc's lan cable and power source...

SF9512/SF9812 protect power and tel line, but it not able to protect analog phone and modem at the same time... same concept like SP9201DSL... since u said want to protect cordless phone and modem at the same time, SP9201DAF is a must model for u...

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sry for the late reply... since lots of forumers post their setup, so here is mine...

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Last time, lightning struck heavily and my AP not working! Modem and others are safe. Now I have to buy another one to protect my AP. So that;s why I am looking for surge protector for the telephone line to protect my modem in order to protect my AP....

but I didnt look at the power supply of the modem and ap... do i need to protect that too?

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jun 18 2007, 11:11 PM)
i able to do courier...

regarding the back kick, example like u locked your house front door, but back door not locked... thief still able to go into your premise steal your stuff... i draw another diagram which is unsafe installation...

Front door : SP9201DAF, MDSC0039
Back door : not protected, from "other PC"... "thief" bypass "other PC" and "steal" ur stuff
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in order to protect back door, u need another models for complete protection such as SLAN1236 for lan cable or SD-4C for other pc's lan cable and power source...

SF9512/SF9812 protect power and tel line, but it not able to protect analog phone and modem at the same time... same concept like SP9201DSL... since u said want to protect cordless phone and modem at the same time, SP9201DAF is a must model for u...
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Thanks for the info. So I guess I have to purchase a separate power protector for my setup in addition to the SP9201DAF.
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QUOTE(spayre @ Jun 19 2007, 11:06 AM)
sry for the late reply... since lots of forumers post their setup, so here is mine...

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Last time, lightning struck heavily and my AP not working! Modem and others are safe. Now I have to buy another one to protect my AP. So that;s why I am looking for surge protector for the telephone line to protect my modem in order to protect my AP....

but I didnt look at the power supply of the modem and ap... do i need to protect that too?
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yup. power source should be protected as well. a tiny surge may damage ur equipments as well if they are sensitive on power source.

here the diagram with cal-lab units and done some modification on ur diagram
Assume u dont want to protect PC1, PC2, Laptop... and MDSC0039, SP9201DAF, SLAN1236, telephone, ADSL modem and Access Point will locate at the same location (not more than a room space)
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u said only ur AP damaged by lightning, mostly ur modem designed which able "tolerate" with lightning to reduce the chances of modem damage... and the surge by pass modem and strike ur AP... otherwise surge come from power socket's earthing even u switched off...

QUOTE(supercolossal @ Jun 19 2007, 03:55 PM)
Thanks for the info. So I guess I have to purchase a separate power protector for my setup in addition to the SP9201DAF.
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hm... thanks for the info...

guess i'll take
1 unit of SP9201DAF + shipping to pj?
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hm... thanks for the info...

guess i'll take
1 unit of SP9201DAF + shipping to pj?
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if intended to take SP9201DAF only, but bear the risk yourself bcos there may a lot of back kick happened... SP9201DAF only protect tel line but not for power line/lan cable...

i have a forumer which insist bought SP9201DSL only... but modem get burnt...
for other forumers who purchased the recommended models, not complaint so far...
except a forumer who done the wrong installation and caused back kick after investigated by cal-lab staffs...
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how can the modem gets burnt when the SP9201DAF is in front of the modem? correct me if I'm wrong.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(spayre @ Jun 19 2007, 07:20 PM)
how can the modem gets burnt when the SP9201DAF is in front of the modem? correct me if I'm wrong.... tongue.gif
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example:
u locked your house front door, but your house back door not locked...
u locked your car front door, but ur car back door not locked...

the surge come from the back of power line... the surge come from the back of lan cable which across the wall and floor, wall and floor contained metal material and which able to attract surge... finally surge it jump into lan cable... the longer cable, higher chances the cable charged by surge... try to imagine how the lightning come down from sky without any media, it just by pass the air like nothing...

sorry that if offended u...


Added on June 19, 2007, 8:07 pmFYI, check out belkin products... i think none of the product designed for tel line only... for sure there have the reasons why they not develop it...

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can CLLI works as a surge protector?
I'm more worried about voltage surge in my hostel rather than being strike by lightning.
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hiye there
i might need protection for this scenario, would appreciate advice smile.gif

within a house, i want to isolate and protect just one room
within the room, there are pcs, and few electrical appliances
there is only two source of possible damage, one is the one and only wall socket (which is then splitted to 10 devices), and one LAN connection from a switch

is there a model that can secure both entry points?
thanks in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Jul 15 2007, 02:23 AM)
hiye there
i might need protection for this scenario, would appreciate advice smile.gif

within a house, i want to isolate and protect just one room
within the room, there are pcs, and few electrical appliances
there is only two source of possible damage, one is the one and only wall socket (which is then splitted to 10 devices), and one LAN connection from a switch

is there a model that can secure both entry points?
thanks in advance smile.gif
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if both entry not located at the same place...

for the power source from wall socket... get MDSC0039 which support up to 10A (2000w), but afraid u will overload cal-lab units since u using 10 devices... sweat.gif so i may need ur help to calculate to total power comsumption come from wall socket...

for the lan connection, if only have 1 lan port going into ur switch, get SD-4C or MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 to protect the power and lan cable...

possible draw a floor map regarding the entry point and how u locate ur equipments within a room?

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 15 2007, 09:55 AM)
if both entry not located at the same place...

for the power source from wall socket... get MDSC0039 which support up to 10A (2000w), but afraid u will overload cal-lab units since u using 10 devices... sweat.gif so i may need ur help to calculate to total power comsumption come from wall socket...

for the lan connection, if only have 1 lan port going into ur switch, get SD-4C or MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 to protect the power and lan cable...

possible draw a floor map regarding the entry point and how u locate ur equipments within a room?
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thanks for your advice =D

actually, the area is just a room
but the switch, and modem is outside of the room far away
i just want to protect the room, hence, protect the the LAN cable that enters my pc, and the power that comes out of the socket

the appliances are all PC accessories, and phone chargers, nothing that draws too much power
both the LAN cable and power cables are in same proximity
would

whats the difference between getting the SD-4C or MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 setup? would getting the sperate setup be less effective than the combined setup? or are they the same? smile.gif

thanks!
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Jul 15 2007, 08:08 PM)
thanks for your advice =D

actually, the area is just a room
but the switch, and modem is outside of the room far away
i just want to protect the room, hence, protect the the LAN cable that enters my pc, and the power that comes out of the socket

the appliances are all PC accessories, and phone chargers, nothing that draws too much power
both the LAN cable and power cables are in same proximity
would

whats the difference between getting the SD-4C or MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 setup? would getting the sperate setup be less effective than the combined setup? or are they the same? smile.gif

thanks!
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both combination have the same protection...
the difference for SD-4D ( power + lan cable) and MDSC0039 ( power ) + SLAN1236 ( lan cable )...

if u expect for easy portable and better look... get SD-4C
if u expect for easier and cheaper replacement exchange cost... get MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 separately...

if ur lan module on SD-4C was damaged, u have to change whole unit even the power module still working...
if separately, only exchange the modules accordingly... smile.gif
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hi, need help....am looking to protect my modem n pc setup with cal lab products. what should i get?

Am looking to protect a simple pc setup configuration, with pc, modem and wireless router...all on one socket in the same room.

my wireless router got hit once...must be thru the telephone line...

thanks.
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QUOTE(spideymung @ Jul 22 2007, 01:44 PM)
hi, need help....am looking to protect my modem n pc setup with cal lab products. what should i get?

Am looking to protect a simple pc setup configuration, with pc, modem and wireless router...all on one socket in the same room.

my wireless router got hit once...must be thru the telephone line...

thanks.
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still recommended to protect the power as the same time to prevent back surge...

if just protect a simple pc setup as what u said, SF9812DSL will sufficient for u... it used to protect 1 set of PC, 1 unit of modem and 1 unit of wireless router if u have any within a small area/room...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 22 2007, 10:11 PM)
still recommended to protect the power as the same time to prevent back surge...

if just protect a simple pc setup as what u said, SF9812DSL will sufficient for u... it used to protect 1 set of PC, 1 unit of modem and 1 unit of wireless router if u have any within a small area/room...
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Does the SF9812DSL affect my broadband speed? Am quite a heavy user...

was thinking maybe a simple SP9201DAF/DSL (not sure wats the diff) would do. Already have an old Adaport surge protector for the power.
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QUOTE(spideymung @ Jul 23 2007, 12:02 AM)
Does the SF9812DSL affect my broadband speed? Am quite a heavy user...

was thinking maybe a simple SP9201DAF/DSL (not sure wats the diff) would do. Already have an old Adaport surge protector for the power.
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wont effected broadband connection speed... none of LYN forumer complaint after used cal-lab except wrong installation...

SP9201DAF same with ADSL splitter filter... it able to protect analog telephone and digital broadband at the same time
SP9201DSL only protect digital broadband for modem only...

cal-lab not recommended to protect tel line for ur PC setup only, and unsure how effective is ur old adaport surge protector... if u insist to protect tel line only, u have to bear the risk yourself since the surge may come from power line although ur tel line protected by cal-lab...

i had a LYN forumer insisted to protect tel line only and i mentioned bear the risk himself although i recommended him the correct model and correct installation... result: his modem burnt after few months...

so far, none complain from LYN forumers who using recommended models, correct installation and correct equipments, except 1 of them done the wrong installation after investigated by cal-lab staff which his installation caused back kick...
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Do you have a basic one for internet that doesn't slow down or deteriorate the streamyx signal?
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Do you have a basic one for internet that doesn't slow down or deteriorate the streamyx signal?
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sure will have some dropping on broadband but not significant, around 1-2%...
more devices/components, more Ohm...

here my latest speedtest... using 512 streamyx...
broadband signal filter by 2 models - SF9512DSL (RJ11 cable) and SLAN1236 (RJ45 cable)
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if u just intend to protect simple pc setup... i recommended SF9812DSL and get a SKPXDSL for spare module purpose
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Hi fren, i am facing a lightning problem here, my modem always get hit by ligtning. So i would like to ask you about your product here. From so many product you sell here. I really dnt know how to measure the differential between them.

Can you futher explain to me? What i need here is it can protect both of my pc equipment, normally i plug my pc socket into one wall socket only and my modem direct to the telekom socket. It danger my modem, everything get hit by lightning. I have thrown 3 modems recently, one power supply. It caused me a lot of trouble here.

So what i really mean here is i need this lightning protect to be pluged into wall socket and i plug my pc socket into lightning protect socket. At the same time i can plug my telephone line into lightning protect data socket and link to modem. IF can, i also hope it can protect my telephone too when i talk on telephone. Most important is it can secure my pc and modem, secondary is telephone IF can. Preferable fuses system product. Coz i can replace it easily.


Do you think S9812 (DSL module ) is suitable for me??

The most important thing is, any fuses inside this lightning protect product??? do 3 pin or 2pin and telephone socket have its own separate fuses??

As my knowledge fuis will furnish when lightning hit it, and it will stop further damage to my pc and modem. After that i still can replace with new fuses inside? sory ,my english not very good, if no understand , please ask me. I hope you can answer me quick, its urgent. happy.gif

Correct me if wrong?

1. SF9512, Protect:PT(modem) - Two side?? 2 telephone socket, one power socket?

2. SF9512DSL - Two side?? One 3 pin socket, 2 telephone socket???

3. SF9512DSL-MS2+3 - Two side? one side with 3 + 2 leg socket, other side with 2 + 3 leg socket, 2 telephone socket.


4. SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module) - Is it support ADSL modem? any further explain on this?

5. SF9812 (+SKPX Digital module - Digital for ??

6. SD9623, Protect:PTT - i see SF9512 and SD9623 pic is the same? both have one socket, 2 data line socket, duno what different??

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bro, I am wondering whether getting another SF9812DSL will protect my system even better. Dual SF9812DSL.. Hehe
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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 23 2007, 11:36 PM)
So what i really mean here is i need this lightning protect to be pluged into wall socket and i plug my pc socket into lightning protect socket. At the same time i can plug my telephone line into lightning protect data socket and link to modem. IF can, i also hope it can protect my telephone too when i talk on telephone.  Most important is it can secure my pc and modem, secondary is telephone IF can. Preferable fuses system product. Coz i can replace it easily.
Do you think S9812 (DSL module ) is suitable for me??
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allow me to make your scenarios in simple ways
1. want to protect 1 unit of modem and 1 set of pc
2. want to protect analog telephone as well
3. dont have other PCs or other networking devices connecting to your modem and your PC
4. all the equipments (telephone, modem and PC) located at the same room and areas

in order to fulfill ur requirements, MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF is ur choices
MDSC0039 protect power line which used to feed your PC and modem
SP9201DAF act as ADSL splitter filter, it split the telekom line into analog signal (telephone) and digital signal (modem)

SF9812DSL with SKPX (fuse) module but unlucky tat it used to protect digital signal only which splitted by ordinary ADSL splitter filter... it cannot used to protect analog telephone... otherwise broadband signal quality will be decrease and telephone may not protected bcos SF9812DSL designed to protect digital signal interface...

all of the cal-lab products doesnt come with replaceable fuse, it wont work well... it used to BURNT while overvoltage, it not used to detect or isolate or arrest the surge...

SF9512 (Digital + Analog interface) used for dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx
SF9512DSL (Digital interface only) used for higher speed of broadband
both of them come with 1 @ 3pin power socket and telephone module

SF9512DSL MS2+3 is a multi socket of SF9512DSL
it have 2 @ 3pin and 3 @ 2pin power socket and telephone module for broadband

SF9812DSL basically same with SF9512DSL, difference is SF9512DSL doesnt come with SKPX (fuse) module for telephone line

SF9812 (digital) same with SF9512, protect dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx

SD9623 used for unique equipments which used 4 pins of the telephone line, such as ISDN connection
normal telephone and broadband used 2 pins (pin2 and pin3) only of telephone line
the protection level will same with SF9512 and SF9812, used to protect dial up modem, fax machine and 512 streamyx

QUOTE(irangan @ Jul 24 2007, 01:08 AM)
bro, I am wondering whether getting another SF9812DSL will protect my system even better. Dual SF9812DSL.. Hehe
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1 unit of cal-lab product will sufficient for ur PC equipments loh...
u can try with "Dual Protection" if u not confident on the cal-lab products yet... but i cant confirm hows the broadband signal quality since tel line filtered by 2 units of cal-lab... i tested with 9512 + 9812, my modem cant detect streamyx signal... sweat.gif
but i using SF9512DSL (protect power, tel line) + SLAN1236 (protect lan cable), my torrent speed still able to reach 50kb+/s with my 512 streamyx... below is my connection speed with both models... wink.gif

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wat is mean protect digital signal?? Digital signal for modem OR telephone??


So, SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module), have fuses?? can protect PC, Modem (without speed down), telephone?

OR

SF9812 (+SKPX Digital module), have fuses?? can protect PC, Modem (without speed down), telephone?


i dnt get wat is Digital module and DSL module.



if i only use to protect modem and pc ONLY, can use which one this ?


i got one ADSL spliter black which can plug in telephone and modem line together in it.

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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 24 2007, 08:10 PM)
So SF9812DSL Come with SKPX (fuse) right? wat is mean use to protect digital signal? u mean it can protect modem only OR telephone only?
if i only use to protect modem and pc ONLY, can use this ?
i got one ADSL spliter black which can plug in telephone and modem line together in it.
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DSL version only used to protect modem, not for telephone...

u can use SF9812DSL for ur modem and PC set... but not recommended to locate ur telephone beside ur modem and PC... otherwise will cause the back kick, the surge may pass thru the telephone and the surge able "jump" into ur modem and PC set, lastly ur equipments still will damaged, although ur modem and PC protected by cal-lab at the front end...

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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 24 2007, 08:26 PM)
so if i use SF9812 (+SKPX Digital module)??? it have fuses for pc, modem and telephone? all protected?

all my telephone, pc , modem in one room, but telephone is one the table, modem is on other table. .. line from telekom socket >> ADSL spliter >> 2 side, one side telephone line, and one side modem line....
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cal-lab not recommended to split after their products except SP9201DAF and power line, otherwise the result may different as you expected...

and the "fuse" either for DSL or D (Digital), cant mess up together... 1 unit of 9812 only have 1 "fuse"... and the "fuse" only for telephone module, power module dont have fuse...

the installation diagram should be like this
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so you mean power and modem no fuses, only telephone got fuses either DSL module or Digital module?

So any other product got fuses for modem and telephone?
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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 24 2007, 09:06 PM)
so you mean power and modem no fuses, only telephone got fuses either DSL module or Digital module?

So any other product got fuses for modem and telephone?
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all of the 9812 models have "fuse" which refering to SKPX...

9812 have power module (3pin power socket) and telephone module (RJ11 socket)...

power module dont have fuse but telephone module have "fuse" (SKPX)...

the "fuse" that i mention is not the fuse that u can found in DIY hardware shops...

if u dont want ur streamyx broadband speed effected, only SF9812DSL is ur choices... and cannot split after SF9812DSL as i shown u in the diagram... only can split before SF9812DSL, but telephone not protected and telephone cannot locate near ur modem and PC...
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sleep.gif" fuses cant find? omg, i just think can replace it. Then how far telephone cant put? another sleep.gif" / in one room can? i always put telephone on one table, modem on another table that stick together two tables.


if i buy Digital module, ADSL will be affected? My plan .......... T_T


If telephone not protected? how i protect telephone separate? any recommend?






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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 24 2007, 09:24 PM)
sleep.gif" fuses cant find? omg, i just think can replace it. Then how far telephone cant put? another sleep.gif" /
if i buy Digital module, ADSL will be affected? My plan .......... T_T
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your "protect modem, telephone & PC" not recommended
u split the line after cal-lab unit and may effected ur broadband signal speed and cal-lab protection
ADSL splitter filter designed to split the analog signal and digital signal...
telekom -> SF9812DSL -> filtered as ADSL signal (digital only) -> ADSL splitter filter -> unsure what the outputs since the inputs only digital...

your "protect modem & PC" is what exactly want i want so say and same with the diagram i drawn just now...
telekom
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ADSL Splitter Filter -> digital signal -> SF9812DSL -> digital signal -> modem -> PC
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Analog signal
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try to locate ur telephone away from ur PC more than 3 meters... but as far as possible to avoid telephone carry surge and "jump" into ur PC

if u really concern on the phone, just follow my recommendation on my 1st reply
MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF
this combination can protect a cordless phone also...
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If i protect telephone separately , SF9812 DSL module), SP9812 Digital module which one is suitable for pc and modem only. I even confuse, SF9812 have analog or digital or DSL???

confuse about Digital and DSL module differential.



i see from pic

MDSC0039 -- > how many 3 pin socket, modem socket ??

SP9201DAF ---> can protect both modem and telephone?


how is the setup diagram?? Is it like below?

wall socket <<---IN-------MDSC0039<<-----IN---- pc





Telekom socket--SP9201DAF---ADSL spliter--- telephone and modem

one problem>> after going out from SP9201DAF to ADSL spliter any problem if i take up phone , ADSL DC? i just scare this...




Corret me if wrong.. but its so small, working or not ^^/ im worry. if i prefer SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module) OR SP9201Digital module, and PLUS one SP9201DAF FOR telephone purpose, is it working???????
Just waste money rightt ? ^^



u recommend me to buy SP9201DAF because it protect modem and phone right?

and MDSC0039 protect pc right???????

So i no need waste money buy SF9812 while it only protect pc and modem, but not telephone right?

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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 24 2007, 10:10 PM)
If i protect telephone separately , SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module),  SP9201Digital module, which one is suitable for pc and modem only. I still little confuse about Digital and DSL module differential.
i see from pic

MDSC0039  -- > how many 3 pin socket, modem socket ??

SP9201DAF ---> can protect both modem and telephone?
how is the setup diagram?? Is it like below?

wall socket <<---IN-------MDSC0039<<-----IN---- pc
                                                             
Telekom socket--SP9201DAF---ADSL spliter--- telephone and  modem

one problem>> after going out from SP9201DAF to ADSL spliter any problem if i take up phone , ADSL DC? i just scare this...
                                                                                                           
Corret me if wrong.. but its so small, working or not ^^/ im worry. if i prefer SF9812 (+SKPX DSL module) OR SP9201Digital module, and PLUS one SP9201DAF FOR telephone purpose, is it working???????
Just waste money rightt ? ^^
u recommend me to buy SP9201DAF because it protect modem and phone right?

and MDSC0039  protect pc right???????

So i no need waste money buy SF9812 while it only protect pc and modem, but not telephone right?
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yup... i afraid u will split the tel line after the SF9812DSL and complain the broadband speed effected significantly... and protection level may reduce also... if u dont have telephone nearby, i will recommend for SF9812DSL for sure...

SP9201DSL = SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL's telephone module
which means MDSC0039 + SP9201DSL = SF9812DSL / SF9512DSL

MDSC0039 have 1@3pin power socket, u can use multi socket to increase the number of power socket...

SP9201DAF = ADSL splitter filter + lighting protection
just replace ur ordinary ADSL splitter filter with SP9201DAF instead...
and u can use ur broadband and telephone at the same time, the modem wont disconnect...

if u expected for SF9812DSL + SP9201DAF for double protection on tel line, so far i hvnt try both combination, i have to do a testing 1st before i sell both of the models to u...

MDSC0039 protect power line which feeding power to ur PC and ur modem
SP9201DAF protect tel line which feeding digital signal to modem and analog signal to ur telephone

if surge come from power line... blocked by MDSC0039 and not able bypass it toward PC and modem...
if surge come from tel line... blocked by SP9201DAF and not able to bypass it toward telephone and modem...
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hmm i wait u test on SF9812DSL + SP9201DAF , please write me a setup starting connect from telekom socket.. no hurry, u can do by tomorrow or when u free. Important is when take up phone, ADSL signal no losing.

Knowing tat MDSC0039 only have one 3 pins socket, if i add up socket to MDSC0039, any protection problem? coz my pc and modem need 2 @ 3pins socket.


Double protect from lightning on tel line for my modem, i'm worry about one small SP9201DAF no enough to protect.
But if lightning hit telephone line , is it both SP9201DAF and SF9812DSL burn directly?? Oh no, one time lost how many money...... sweat.gif

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usually only the front end device will burnt and wont effect the other devices...
if SP9201DAF burnt, the replacement cost will be RM15 only... if u stay along LDP areas, u can easy approach cal-lab showroom at bandar utama to do replacement exchange by urself... smile.gif

i think MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF will suit for ur requirements and the price almost same with SF9812DSL...
the only things that SF9812DSL not able to protect analog telephone... but MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF combination can protect analog telephone...
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Unlucky i from sarawak, replacement mean replace new set? wil it be replace if i postage to you too?

Err.. if can, i might need you to test SF9812DSL + SF9201AF for me. My Diagram is uploading.. ... u might try to combine as soon as you free by tomorrow. Just see this one will more good!!

Test on ADSL signal lost if phone take up. Any noisy talk on phone? AdSL speed down or (test on bt Kbps)


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yup, if damaged have to post back to HQ at Johor, Muar for restoration...
the restoration cost will around RM10-RM15... Rm10-Rm15 ensure your equipment in safe condition, still value for ur money... smile.gif

Tested with SF9812DSL + SP9201DAF while using the telephone... not noise from telephone...
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and the SP9201DAF used to replace the ADSL splitter filter... not need to install the ordinary splitter in ur installation...
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SF9201DAF have two holes for both telephone and modem? O_o as i see from pic, i cant see side hole.
Mind you count how much postage to sarawak, sibu here if i buy these items.

Can discount for me? Total cost + postage = ?? i wait your respond



1.wat is the cost for replacing SF9201DAF??

2.wat is the cost for replacing SF9801DSL??

both same cost Rm10-15 with insurance ONLY Or without insurance??

3. From the list, i see you sell replacement module item for SF9801DSL, is it used to replace the burnt component if SF9801DSL get burnt?

4. Can i replace the module myself for SF9201DAF or SF9801DSL?? wat is their item name if you sell?

If the cost i do the replacement myself more cheap than cost postage to u, i prefer replace myself. The cost of postage can buy one new already T_T


5.Wat warranty cover? damaged by lightning, faulty itself???

6.If i received faulty item, who pay the postage fees send back to u and back to me?

Just asking for knowledge. thx

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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 26 2007, 12:50 PM)
SF9201DAF have two holes for both telephone and modem? O_o as i see from pic, i cant see side hole.
Mind you count how much postage to sarawak, sibu here if i buy these items.

Can discount for me? Total cost + postage = ?? i wait your respond
1.wat is the cost for replacing SF9201DAF??

2.wat is the cost for replacing SF9801DSL??

both same cost Rm10-15 with insurance ONLY Or without insurance??

3. From the list, i see you sell replacement module item for SF9801DSL, is it used to replace the burnt component if SF9801DSL get burnt?

4. Can i replace the module myself for SF9201DAF or SF9801DSL?? wat is their item name if you sell?

If the cost i do the replacement myself more cheap than cost postage to u,  i prefer replace myself. The cost of postage can buy one new already T_T
5.Wat warranty cover? damaged by lightning, faulty itself???

6.If i received faulty item,  who pay the postage fees send back to u and back to me?

Just asking for knowledge. thx
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SP9201DAF have a cable and 2 holes, a cable and a hole used "from telekom" or "to modem" and another hole used for "to telephone"

both units charge u Rm110 + Rm8 delivery cost to sarawak...

do u need a spare SKPX module for SF9812DSL? if the SKPX in SF9812DSL damaged by lightning, u can swap urself with working SKPX and ur SF9812DSL alive back... smile.gif

if SF9812DSL + SKPX DSL + SP9201DAF, give u cheaper price RM120 + RM8 for delivery cost... smile.gif
Note: SKPX cost RM19

1. should be RM10 i think

2. if only SF9812DSL's SKPX module damaged, should be RM5-10 i think... if whole unit burnt, Rm15...

with/without insurance also the same replacement cost... but without will free hassle...

3. yes, the replaceable module is SKPX module for telephone line only (RJ11)

4. SP9201DAF dont have module, once it burnt have to send back to HQ for repair. item name = model name.

if we do replacement by ourself at Klang Valley direct with showroom, have to pay RM25 immediately replacement. if u do postage to HQ, RM15 for replacement cost + RM5 delivery cost (poslaju), u still save RM5 but take time to repair and deliver.

5. warranty is lifetime. u used cal-lab 10 years and fail tat time. the replacement cost still RM15 instead buying a new 1 with "Recommended Retail Price". but if u used 1 day only and so unlucky lightning strike tat day, u have to pay RM15 also since ur equipment is protected and cal-lab is "working" to protect ur equipments.

6. i will test ur units before send to u, very less chances to receive defect units. if u really receive defect units, can send back direct to HQ and i pay u the delivery cost to HQ.
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ok, confirmed Rm128, will bank in to your Maybank.

Fren, i do have a problem here. Warranty do cover if i replace module myself mean i cant continue my warranty for life time?

I really think replace module myself same cost by sending back to you.

But If i replace myself, it alive, next time whole unit get burnt, i send to you , will you replace it for me anymore for Rm15 + postage Rm5 charges??

If void, i have to consider nt to buy module as i no dare to change it. Wait your answer~~ Hope you today wil onliine, i will bank in by tonite.

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jul 23 2007, 07:45 AM)
sure will have some dropping on broadband but not significant, around 1-2%...
more devices/components, more Ohm...

here my latest speedtest... using 512 streamyx...
broadband signal filter by 2 models - SF9512DSL (RJ11 cable) and SLAN1236 (RJ45 cable)
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if u just intend to protect simple pc setup... i recommended SF9812DSL and get a SKPXDSL for spare module purpose
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My UPS expired a few weeks ago and at the moment I'm searching for a new one (http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=491055) , but my main concern is protection from lightning instead of constant power. I'm not sure how the lightning isolator works so it would be helpful if you can show me the benefits compared to getting a Prolink PC600 UPS which is what the shopkeeper recommended.

For my old UPS it has 4 female power sockets (1 primary 3 secondary) and one internet socket.

I use them for

1. PC (primary socket) - the PSU in the pc is 650W
2. monitor
3. monitor
4. empty for spare use
5. DLink 520T - set to ADSL at the moment because somehow my house signal not compatible with ADSL2

Among the products in the catalog, which one best fits this usage?

Thanks
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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Jul 27 2007, 02:33 PM)
ok, confirmed Rm128, will bank in to your Maybank.

Fren, i do have a problem here. Warranty do cover if i replace module myself mean i cant continue my warranty for life time?

I really think replace module myself same cost by sending back to you.

But If i replace myself, it alive, next time whole unit get burnt, i send to you , will you replace it for me anymore for Rm15 + postage Rm5 charges??

If void, i have to consider nt to buy module as i no dare to change it. Wait your answer~~ Hope you today wil onliine, i will bank in by tonite.
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change module wont void warranty, just make sure the stickers on the cal-lab case not damaged, then warranty still will lifetime... i can confirm tat take out the module wont effect the sticker...

usually only SP9201DAF or SKPX module will damage, bcos lightning come from tel line often... both of the units replacement cost maybe just RM10 or below...

if whole SF9812DSL burnt, will be RM15 to do replacement. hence, if we do hand by hand swapping direct with cal-lab, that will be RM25... yours only RM15 + RM5 (delivery to HQ)... still cheaper...

QUOTE(Polaris @ Jul 27 2007, 04:37 PM)
My UPS expired a few weeks ago and at the moment I'm searching for a new one (http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=491055) , but my main concern is protection from lightning instead of constant power. I'm not sure how the lightning isolator works so it would be helpful if you can show me the benefits compared to getting a Prolink PC600 UPS which is what the shopkeeper recommended.

For my old UPS it has 4 female power sockets (1 primary 3 secondary) and one internet socket.

I use them for

1. PC (primary socket) - the PSU in the pc is 650W
2. monitor
3. monitor
4. empty for spare use
5. DLink 520T - set to ADSL at the moment because somehow my house signal not compatible with ADSL2

Among the products in the catalog, which one best fits this usage?

Thanks
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i not sure the quality of Prolink UPS, but cal-lab able to compatible with most of the UPS and free hassle, just plug and play...
if tend to protect UPS also, u can plug the power socket before the UPS...
Wall socket -> cal-lab -> UPS -> PC

if about the internet socket on UPS, i not sure whether it will effect ur streamyx speed or not...
but u can plug it as well if the speed not effected..
Tel socket -> cal-lab -> UPS -> modem -> PC

i recommended for SF9812DSL + SKPXDSL for simple setup, lower replacement cost and efficient, although is slightly expensive... smile.gif
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ok i try to bank in by tonite, if the ATM no allow to me bank in, i will do it by tomorrow noon, see ya, i go try^^
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hi bro..
i don know am i posting the right thread to ask a question..
my extension plug.. it's a extension with 5 plug..
and it cause my pc got electric shock...
how to solve this problem..
any extension plug to introduce to me..
atleast 5 plug or more..

and i also don know which one to buy...
so please recommend me and introduce to me..
any extension with 5 plug and will not cause my pc got electric shock..
i willing to buy it..

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post Jul 29 2007, 05:37 PM

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i think the electric shock is caused by your equipment electric leakage...
if u used another multi socket but still the problem still persist, cal-lab wont help much bcos mostly ur equipment caused the problem...
it just designed to protect surge from the external environment...
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what do u mean equipment leakage??
you mean my pc psu??

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what do u mean equipment leakage??
you mean my pc psu??
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yup. maybe ur equipment fail to operate properly and the electric leak...
maybe is ur monitor, maybe is ur psu... if u changed multi socket but problem still persist, means ur equipment got problems...
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oh... !!
anyway thanks...
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Dear fren,
Received both items which cost Rm128 in very good condition by today. Very satisfy with nice and proper packed item. Recommend to All people to buy this lightning isolator from him. Good quality and granted brand. I personal give him AA+++, will introduce to all my frens, will trade again.



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Added on July 31, 2007, 4:41 pmWant asking about SP9201DAF, i read from intruction, hole "2" is connected to telekom socket, line "1" is connect to DSL modem and hole "3" is connect to telephone, correct me if i was wrong.


By looking at the pic..

1. The green line from lines "1" uses for what, how to ground, is it useless to me?

2. SF9801DSL, how to connect green line too?

3. Seems SP9201DAF line "1" is too short , and it need to connect SF9801DSL (line in) to be functional in double protection, any problem if they are too close???? If SP9201DAF get burnt by lightning, the SF9801DSL will get damaged too??? because they are too close

4. Will SF9801DSL get damaged if put near telephone OR telephone line or both?

5. Will SP9201DAF get damaged if put too close to analog telephone?

6. I cant find the place for replace of SF9801DSL module, can show me in pic to replace?

7. Normally AdSL modem has tel line, ethernet network hole. Any chances that my ADSL modem ethernet network cable to pc will get hit if no grounded by green line to any protector??? i just ask


ANy suggestion for these two item distance from ??


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1. connect the SP9201DAF green cable with SF9812DSL green cable, the surge of SF9201DAF will isolate together with SF9812DSL and ground into earth point...

2. Yes. Connect both models green cable. done.

3. the "line 1" and "hole 2" is the same, either "from telekom" or "to modem", can be two ways. but "hole 3" only "to analog telephone". wont be easily damage if located the units together. in logic, the SP9201DAF failure will higher than SF9812DSL.

4. if the surge jump into SF9812DSL thru telephone or tel line. it still will able to isolate and do surge grounding.

5. the distance is not the main concern. the main concern is the installation, ur equipment will get damage if u done wrong installation which caused back kick by lightning.

6. the module is under the SF9812DSL's tel line connector, unscrew both screw then u will see it.

7. if u didnt ground the SP9201DAF together with SF9812DSL, SP9201DAF have higher chances to get burnt bcos it cant isolate the surge.
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gkl83, my brother bought a SP9201DAF and a MDSC0039.

I have a 5 plug extension connected to the wall. Can I connect the MDSC0039 to the 5 plug extension and then connect another 4 plug extension (for computer and monitor and modem) to the MDSC0039?

meaning. Wall --> 5 plug extension -->MDSC0039 --->4 plug extension for PC and equipment.

for the MDSC0039, I dont need to DIY anything right? Just plug in the socket to the 5 plug extension? No green wire or anything right?

As for the SP9201DAF, can I connect the green cable to my 5 plug extension's green grounding pin?

OR better still: Can I connect the SP9201DAF's green earth cable to the MDSC0039? Can it be done? Do I need to unscrew the MDSC0039 or anything?

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So u mean just connect SF9812DSL green cable with SF9201DAF green line by hand , it will ground to earth automatic right, no need do other work?
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on ur installation, ur equipments (4 plug + PC) will protected which power source come from MDSC0039

the green wire on SP9201DAF can be connect to MDSC0039's connectors which provided with 2 small screw at the side of MDSC0039.


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So u mean just connect SF9812DSL green cable with SF9201DAF green line by hand , it will ground to earth automatic right, no need do other work?
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yes, it as simple as ABC... smile.gif

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gkl83, if I bank in to your account, can you courier the item to sarawak? Do I need to pay extra? Usually how long for it to arrive?

Where can I get your account info? Which bank?

one more question:

the SF9512 can be used with 1mb streamyx line? Since some of my friend said can.


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QUOTE(lamely_named @ Aug 3 2007, 03:40 PM)
gkl83, if I bank in to your account, can you courier the item to sarawak? Do I need to pay extra? Usually how long for it to arrive?

Where can I get your account info? Which bank?

one more question:

the SF9512 can be used with 1mb streamyx line? Since some of my friend said can.
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usually 1 day will arrive to sarawak. i using poslaju. Rm6 postage to sarawak. my bank info located at page 1

SF9512DSL can support up to ADSL2 as well...

but i would recommended get SF9812DSL and a spare SKPXDSL module...
if the SKPXDSL module inside the SF9812DSL burnt, which means not signal for ur modem, u can swap it with spare module into SF9812DSL immediately, and ur SF9812DSL will alive back again. and the burnt module can be send back to HQ to restore but u have to pay little amount to repair, should be RM5 only + postage Rm5...

if SF9512DSL burnt, the restoration cost will be RM15 + RM5 postage to HQ...
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gkl83, I've bought a SF9512 (non dsl) analog + digital line unit.

My internet always disconnect and even when it's connected, I cant browse the internet, no data transfer at all. sad.gif

If I connect directly to filter and unplug SF9512, the line is stable.

Does SF9512 (non dsl) support streamyx 512k line? sad.gif

if this is true (SF9512 doesnt support streamyx 512k), then I would like to buy SP9201-DAF from you, since SP9201-DAF is confirmed to support streamyx up to 1mb right?

So if I bank in to you, I have to bank in extra RM6 + cost of SP9201-DAF right? I use public bank online interbank fund transfer, can or not?

stupid question, how do you confirm that you have received my bank in money and start sending the unit over to me? (I've never bought anything online before, haha).

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u plug the ADSL splitter filter before cal-lab unit or after cal-lab unit?

u sure that ur unit still working ? try to plug the unit with normal telephone? if u only can hear buzz sound after u plug cal-lab unit on telephone, sure that its burnt...

u can use public bank to interbank me.

u can check my 1st page, i have plenty of previous transaction with postage. they all bank in to me 1st before i send their units...
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u plug the ADSL splitter filter before cal-lab unit or after cal-lab unit?

u sure that ur unit still working ? try to plug the unit with normal telephone? if u only can hear buzz sound after u plug cal-lab unit on telephone, sure that its burnt...

u can use public bank to interbank me.

u can check my 1st page, i have plenty of previous transaction with postage. they all bank in to me 1st before i send their units...
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before the SF9512.

Telco box --> splitter/filter ---> SL9512 ----> modem

wrong installation?

The unit is working, phone is ok with the SF9512 plugged in, only internet frequently disconnect when SF9512 is plugged in. If remove SF9512, connection restored.

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how about the telco box direct into SF9512 ? without using splitter...
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how about the telco box direct into SF9512 ? without using splitter...
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Btw, do you need any "proof of bank-in" from me if I buy from you? Like a screenshot of successful bank-in or something?

I use online banking.
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ok, will try it now, hopefully this work.  smile.gif

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prefer to have any black and white...

u intend to get SP9201DAF? i not sure whether it will work together with ur SF9512 or not
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prefer to have any black and white...

u intend to get SP9201DAF? i not sure whether it will work together with ur SF9512 or not
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black and white? how? A picture of the bank-in resit? Really cannot online bank-in?

I'm using the SP9201DAF as the filter for my modem and phone, I'll earth it to the wall socket earth pin, can right?

I'm not going to connect the SP9201DAF to SF9512. Only using SF9512 to protect power.

is this good? should work right?

SP9201DAF confirm to support 1mb streamyx line right?

What other models support 1mb streamyx line? My friend may be interested.

SP9201DAF + pos laju fee = RM39 + RM6 = RM45 right?


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QUOTE(maviko @ Apr 19 2006, 11:46 PM)
Hi gkl83,

Got a short question to ask ya. I have a unit of SF9512 which I use for my PC + modem with streamyx connection. Been using it for many years and working fine all this while, but lately, if the phone lines were to go thru the CLLI, my modem's DSL light will blink and it will never be a steady light.

This would mean that my modem is not able to synchronize with the DSLAM port. However, if I were to plug direct the telephone line to my modem
(without going thru the CLLI), the connection will work.

Any idea what is causing this? Does this mean the cal lab SF9512 unit is faulty and needs to be replaced/serviced? Would appreciate your reply or opinion regarding this issue. Thanks!
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Gan, I think my problem is the same as maviko's problem.

I "think" it has something to do with telekom's recent update to ADSL2.

for some reason the SF9512 (non dsl) becomes unstable if used with streamyx ADSL2 connection.

can anyone confirm this?



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Gan, wat do u mean by this?
MDSC0039, Protect:P -> RRP:RM53, 10%off, Now:RM48 (Can Add Additional Earth Cable)
The additional earth cable can protect the equipment better? Is it necessary to add the Earth?

I alr got the SP9201DAF. It at the phone line....so i should just get the MDSC0039...shld be enuf rite?

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Yes, get a MDSC0039 to combine together with SP9201DAF... this combination able to protect 1set PC equipment, modem and analog telephone...

about the grounding of MDSC0039, u can connect the green wire of SP9201DAF to MDSC0039's earth connector, so SP9201DAF able to do surge isolate...
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Yes, get a MDSC0039 to combine together with SP9201DAF... this combination able to protect 1set PC equipment, modem and analog telephone...

about the grounding of MDSC0039, u can connect the green wire of SP9201DAF to MDSC0039's earth connector, so SP9201DAF able to do surge isolate...
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i can COD at shah alam, sunway, along LDP and kepong...
i will be at kajang this monday...
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i can COD at shah alam, sunway, along LDP and kepong...
i will be at kajang this monday...
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Which surge protector is suitable for washing machine  unsure.gif  . My mum wants to get 1  nod.gif  . Thanks..
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MDSC0039 or SC0039, both of the units can support up to 2000w
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my SP9201DAF onli lasted a month...got struck by lightning again, is it too sensitive or wat?

i had already got a recycled unit for RM25 just last month. Now its out again....realli thinking if its too sensitive just to make us pay more.

Anyone had this experience?
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my SP9201DAF onli lasted a month...got struck by lightning again, is it too sensitive or wat?

i had already got a recycled unit for RM25 just last month. Now its out again....realli thinking if its too sensitive just to make us pay more.

Anyone had this experience?
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did u ground the green cable to earth pin? otherwise the isolated surge no where to go, retain in SP9201DAF and self-destruct to ensure equipment in safe condition...

FYI, SP9201DAF replacement cost should only RM15... may i know where u do the replacement?

if u follow my recommendation to use SF9812DSL to protect ur PC setup, the replacement cost just Rm10 to replace a small cube module which inside the SF9812DSL...

if u only used SP9201DAF to protect tel line but power line not protected, pls take the risk that the surge may come from power line anytime and destruct ur PC setup although SP9201DAF still working...

so far i only receive 2 complain from my customer...
a customer used IT pack, equipments burnt... problem due to wrong installation and caused back surge after investigate by cal-lab staffs...
a customer not following my recommendation to protect his modem and PC, bcos insist want to cut cost...

hence, most the customers who followed my recommendation not complain to me, at least i ensure their equipments in safe condition... maybe have small numbers of unhappy customer but i dont know who they r...

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did u ground the green cable to earth pin? otherwise the isolated surge no where to go, retain in SP9201DAF and self-destruct to ensure equipment in safe condition...

FYI, SP9201DAF replacement cost should only RM15... may i know where u do the replacement?

if u follow my recommendation to use SF9812DSL to protect ur PC setup, the replacement cost just Rm10 to replace a small cube module which inside the SF9812DSL...

if u only used SP9201DAF to protect tel line but power line not protected, pls take the risk that the surge may come from power line anytime and destruct ur PC setup although SP9201DAF still working...

so far i only receive 2 complain from my customer...
a customer used IT pack, equipments burnt... problem due to wrong installation and caused back surge after investigate by cal-lab staffs...
a customer not following my recommendation to protect his modem and PC, bcos insist want to cut cost...

hence, most the customers who followed my recommendation not complain to me, at least i ensure their equipments in safe condition... maybe have small numbers of unhappy customer but i dont know who they r...
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The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 12 2007, 12:00 AM)
The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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Forwarded ur feedback to Cal-Lab office, see what they can do on ur problem...
but the charges from Centrepoint DIY hardware shop was overcharge... doh.gif sweat.gif

belkin still have it own disadvantages also... may burn equipments as well...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=12523107
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=11281791
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9241155
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9232867
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...dpost&p=9218943

Latest cases belkin fail to protect and burnt equipments...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=537490
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=476518

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QUOTE(spideymung @ Nov 12 2007, 12:00 AM)
The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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CLLI or CAL-LAB Lightning Isolators are designed to self-sacrifice so that user and equipment can be safe from lightning! If there was no surge, CLLI would not be damaged! We have nearly 1,000,000 CLLI in use at the homes and offices. Sometimes, during dry season, we get less than 10 units a week for LLSWA service. BUT, during rainy seasons, we get 30 to 80 a week. All damaged decause of lightning or power surges and none at all due to manufacturing defect!

Is SP9201-DAF too sensitive? Not at all. Only powerful surges would cause it to be damaged. Other times, it simply resets at DSL side but Analog side may need manual reset sometimes. (Please note that the DSL side cannot protect analog devices such as dial-up modems or FAX or cordless-phone!)

Your customer has 2-issues. We have 3 explanations:
1. The first issue is beyond our control when lightning surges arrive or not arrive so often. It is definitely not because our CLLI is too sensitive. We actually wish we do not have to carry out any aftersales restoration, because it is often a SUBSIDIZED service. When middle-man over charge or make a few bucks, we normally do not make any money from LLSWA!
2. We advise customers to check from our website to know what to pay and how much to pay. We have no control over how much others charge.
3. CLLI creates SAFE-islands while others do not. How to create SAFE-island if CLLI do not self-sacrifice? Your customers have to choose whether to use ISOLATION-TECHNOLOGY OR ORDINARY TECHNOLOGY. They cannot have it both ways!

If your customer was only using it for DSL, only very powerful strikes will damage it.
Chances are his place is very prone to powerful strikes!

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The SP9201DAF protected my equipment, notin damaged...but this is my third one in like 4 months since i last got it...

The total cost would be 43 + 25 + 25 = RM93....thinkin maybe i would be better off getting a belkin....at least that is lifetime warranty....

I got my replacement at Centrepoint DIY. The grounding was also done properly...the SP9201DAF just seems abit too fragile in my opinion....
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I think you should visit Cal-Lab KL-PJ Centrepoint Showroom at the address below: (to see what they could do to help)

CAL-LAB MARKETING SDN BHD
S2 (2nd Floor) CentrePoint, Bandar Utama
47800 Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia.
Monday-Friday: 10am to 6pm; Saturday: by appointment

I've been there before, it is located on the 2nd floor, take lift no #1 ( next to Black Canyon Coffee ), You can also call them at 03-772 68680.

I've been told by Cal-Lab that they are using a new technology called the "Isolators" technology where the unit is made to self sacrifice ( which is why your unit always damage whenever there is a lightning surge ), this technology could only be used by Cal-Lab legally because Cal-Lab had been formed by the inventor of this technology itself.

As for other company, they are using Lightning Arrestor technology ( which is about 50 yrs technology ). The Lightning Arrestor will try to arrest the lightning surge but as everyone would have known, there is no way you could arrest the full force of lightning surge.

You could read THIS ARTICLE for more info.

In regards to Belkin, I suggest you to take a look at the links provided by gkl85 for further consideration.
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ok...will give it another try...but a recycled unit costs RM25 or RM15?

the website says ----> Lifetime Exchange-replacement @ RM25 (found on http://www.cal-lab.com)

i just need a place to exchange which is reasonable...i work on weekdays...so it might be hard to get to the office on weekdays.


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ok...will give it another try...but a recycled unit costs RM25 or RM15?

the website says ----> Lifetime Exchange-replacement @ RM25 (found on http://www.cal-lab.com)

i just need a place to exchange which is reasonable...i work on weekdays...so it might be hard to get to the office on weekdays.
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The replacement cost will be RM25, Rm15 & RM10 but depending on Recommended Retail Price

more than RRP RM50 : replacement cost RM25
between RRP RM30 - RM50 : replacement cost RM15
below RRP RM30 : replacement cost RM10

u can approach cal-lab showroom when next saturday (1st & 3rd week of saturday close)

before u going there pls call cal-lab office 77268680 to do appointment, they will serve u on the right time without waisting ur precious time, if u come on the right time may meet the cal-lab's founder & inventor face by face. smile.gif

and they knew the DIY hardware shop overcharged u, they managing this issues now since the shop damanging cal-lab reputation sweat.gif that one of the reasons why we hardly to get cal-lab lightning isolator from other shops / hypermarket because of no commitment, they can cheat cal-lab shakehead.gif

if u worry the sensitivity level of SP9201DAF, perhaps u can try to do replacement for SP9201D (digital version) which have less sensitivity than SP9201DAF/SP9201DSL, but it able to support up to 512 streamyx (hopefully u using this package). maybe u can request do testing for the speed difference between SP9201DAF and SP9201D by using this http://www.speedtest.net/ on the spot. hence if SP9201D dead, the replacement cost will be RM10 smile.gif

actually SF9812DSL is the best bang for u if ur house area a lot of strong surge, the replacement cost will be RM10 to replace SKPX DSL (RRP RM20) inside SF9812DSL and can purchase another SKPX DSL for spare module purpose smile.gif hence, if u want to use the SF9812DSL for analog telephone or fax machine, what u need to purchase is another version (digital version and auto reset version) of SKPX which cost u RM20 only, 1 unit can do different purpose and for particular by changing module. nod.gif

bear in mind, i think ur power line not protected, is it? the surge may come from power line anytime also to strike ur PC although rare to happen. if someone stealing the TNB copper power line, the voltage may increase from 230v up to 400v (u can read the news from newspaper or TV) and ur PC will burnt as well, in addition cal-lab still protect ur equipment for such condition.

actually based on my experience, my 1st unit of cal-lab SF9512DSL burnt after used 1 month+, because i using it during thunderstorm tongue.gif once lightning strike, power trip, but cal-lab immediately burnt on the spot, i deserve it but PC still working fine after restore the power. so i replaced another units, and try not to online when raining if can and unplug telephone line when not using internet (why need the protection while not using computer?) to avoid replacement cost (not extra money to burn sweat.gif ), the 2nd units serving me more than 1 years. tried to BT 24/7 for few days last week, cal-lab still working (maybe i lucky). now, my 3 years old poor rig still working condition under cal-lab protection, dont have any hardwares damaged after i bought it from lowyat plaza smile.gif in addition i adding more and more hardwares into it, stressing it and no issues found... nod.gif

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gkl83,about the replacement for damaged unit la...
above RM49 = RM25
around RM29~RM49 = RM15
below RM29 = RM10

So the replacement for SP9201-DAF and SP9201-DSL/AR/D was RM15 smile.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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gkl83,about the replacement for damaged unit la...
above RM49 = RM25
around RM29~RM49 = RM15
below RM29 = RM10

So the replacement for SP9201-DAF and SP9201-DSL/AR/D was RM15 smile.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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is it ?
the SP9201 not under Rm10?

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I have a pc system plus minibar attached to a 6 socket belkin surge protector. Is there a Cal-lab device to put between the wall socket and the belkin main plug?
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I have a pc system plus minibar attached to a 6 socket belkin surge protector.  Is there a Cal-lab device to put between the wall socket and the belkin main plug?
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yes... it can be done... cal-lab can compatible with different brand of lightning protection, cal-lab will perform protection as well (if correct installation only)... in additional, more devices, more Ohm and caused slightly higher power consumption...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 18 2007, 08:44 AM)
yes... it can be done... cal-lab can compatible with different brand of lightning protection, cal-lab will perform protection as well (if correct installation only)... in additional, more devices, more Ohm and caused slightly higher power consumption...
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can u recommend me one device? too much, donno which is best...
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can u recommend me one device?  too much, donno which is best...
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provide me ur information about the PC system.
example what equipments connected within ur PC system or within PC areas such as monitor,, CPU, modem, Amplifier, coredless phone, etc
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Hi GKL,

I have three computers at three different points. 1 DSL, 1 Telephone Intercomsystem (Like offices but I only have one line) So I have two telephone lines. DSL line has fried 4modems so far so I'm guessing surge is thru phone line. None of PC equipment were burnt throughout the years.

Question for you, with CalLab, we protect the DSL and divert the surge to our EARTH cable on the Green in Power Outlet, would that surge become harmful to other equipments attached on the same electrical system?
ie, surge comes thru telephone line, CalLab diverts to Earth in Power outlet, surge then travels to ground via Earth cable, somehow it wanna have a detour towards my other equipment in the house (Is this possible?)

Thanks for taking the time to answer biggrin.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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Hi cab-lab master. I have attached a pic of my PC setup:
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Hope u can recommend me a suitable device which can fully protect my computer.
And i need it to withstand lightning strike often.
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QUOTE(psychict @ Nov 25 2007, 11:19 AM)
Hi GKL,

I have three computers at three different points. 1 DSL, 1 Telephone Intercomsystem (Like offices but I only have one line) So I have two telephone lines. DSL line has fried 4modems so far so I'm guessing surge is thru phone line. None of PC equipment were burnt throughout the years.

Question for you, with CalLab, we protect the DSL and divert the surge to our EARTH cable on the Green in Power Outlet, would that surge become harmful to other equipments attached on the same electrical system?
ie, surge comes thru telephone line, CalLab diverts to Earth in Power outlet, surge then travels to ground via Earth cable, somehow it wanna have a detour towards my other equipment in the house (Is this possible?)

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A lightning strike is too complex to be analysed by words and speculations or guessing what took place after a strike!

The only way a fairly accurate (still not accurate) analysis could be done is to have a complete and accurate survey and measurements of all interconnected equipment - where the locations and ambience are accurately captured.

This is why CAL-LAB often asked customers to describe ALL INTERCONNECTED EQUIPMENT IN EACH SETUP, WITH A SKETCH & WITH ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND HOW EACH IS CONNECTED IN THE SETUP and what are connected to external parts.

Making a sketch of different setups connected together may be useful BUT not necessary - because CAL-LAB attempts to protect your equipment by creating ONE-SAFE-ISLAND at a time!

As to how a strike come in and go out, we dare not even attempt to speculate! We can only anticipate and try to make users and equipment safe from powerful strikes, by installing a correct CLLI correctly at each setup.

But you can read our various pages on this subject in the website - on LIGHTNING SURGE & POWER SURGE / WHY CLLI IS DIFFERENT / LIGHTNING FACTS / etc.

As to choosing an appropriate CLLI, we would not be having so many models & versions, if it was so simple! That's why we have engineers to help when written inputs are sufficiently available!

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A lightning strike is too complex to be analyzed by words and speculations or guessing what took place after a strike!

The only way a fairly accurate (still not accurate) analysis could be done is to have a complete and accurate survey and measurements of all interconnected equipment - where the locations and ambience are accurately captured.

This is why CAL-LAB often asked customers to describe ALL INTERCONNECTED EQUIPMENT IN EACH SETUP, WITH A SKETCH & WITH ACCURATE DESCRIPTIONS OF THE POWER CONSUMPTION AND HOW EACH IS CONNECTED IN THE SETUP and what are connected to external parts.

Making a sketch of different setups connected together may be useful BUT not necessary - because CAL-LAB attempts to protect your equipment by creating ONE-SAFE-ISLAND at a time!

As to how a strike come in and go out, we dare not even attempt to speculate! We can only anticipate and try to make users and equipment safe from powerful strikes, by installing a correct CLLI correctly at each setup.

But you can read our various pages on this subject in the website - on LIGHTNING SURGE & POWER SURGE / WHY CLLI IS DIFFERENT / LIGHTNING FACTS / etc.

As to choosing an appropriate CLLI, we would not be having so many models & versions, if it was so simple! That's why we have engineers to help when written inputs are sufficiently available!

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So what would they recommend? I have three computers, at three separate power outlets (different circuits on breaker), ONE dsl line coming in. Based on history current comes in through phone line and killed adsl modems.

I totally rule out current spikes coming in through power outlets as my house is properly protected by my neighbour's RM30k lightning arrestor.

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Here is the diagram of my pc setup:

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So is SD-4C & SF9812DSL sufficient to protect the whole system??
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QUOTE(psychict @ Nov 27 2007, 09:41 PM)
So what would they recommend? I have three computers, at three separate power outlets (different circuits on breaker), ONE dsl line coming in. Based on history current comes in through phone line and killed adsl modems.

I totally rule out current spikes coming in through power outlets as my house is properly protected by my neighbour's  RM30k lightning arrestor.

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so basically u have 3 PC setup ? do u mind to draw a diagram to understand ur PC connectivity between each others?

QUOTE(mikelarren @ Nov 27 2007, 10:45 PM)
Here is the diagram of my pc setup:

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So is SD-4C & SF9812DSL sufficient to protect the whole system??
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u got PM...
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SD9623, Protect:PTT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76< I am interested in buying this product. I have 2 streamyx lines. can i use this? will it slow download my internet download and surfing speeed? I am using vpn for both lines. Place of COD? I possible i can get it today cause i am going to low yat today maybe can meet somewhere. Will pay when i receive package. Please reply ASAP.


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QUOTE(mikelarren @ Nov 27 2007, 10:45 PM)
Here is the diagram of my pc setup:

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So is SD-4C & SF9812DSL sufficient to protect the whole system??
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both models will sufficient to protect, but with SLAN1236 will gain the extra protection to avoid back surge thru lan cable smile.gif
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QUOTE(louislee1991 @ Nov 28 2007, 09:05 AM)
SD9623, Protect:PTT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76< I am interested in buying this product. I have 2 streamyx lines. can i use this? will it slow download my internet download and surfing speeed? I am using vpn for both lines. Place of COD? I possible i can get it today cause i am going to low yat today maybe can meet somewhere. Will pay when i receive package. Please reply ASAP.
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sorry for late reply... just received ur post... sweat.gif

SD9623 designed for RJ11 telephone port which used 4pins (Pin1-4), usually use by ISDN connection or other special equipments... FYI, streamyx only use 2pins (Pin2 & Pin3)...

if u have 2 units of modem/router and located together at the same location, SF9812DSL and SP9201DSL will sufficient to protect from tel line side, but lan cable side still a question bcos the surge may come from lan cable and strike ur modem/router
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Nov 28 2007, 06:20 PM)
both models will sufficient to protect, but with SLAN1236 will gain the extra protection to avoid back surge thru lan cable smile.gif
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sorry for late reply... just received ur post... sweat.gif

SD9623 designed for RJ11 telephone port which used 4pins (Pin1-4), usually use by ISDN connection or other special equipments... FYI, streamyx only use 2pins (Pin2 & Pin3)...

if u have 2 units of modem/router and located together at the same location, SF9812DSL and SP9201DSL will sufficient to protect from tel line side, but lan cable side still a question bcos the surge may come from lan cable and strike ur modem/router
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So wht do u suggest? I have 1 desktop and 2 lapie and i have 2 modem and a router and 2 homeplugs. I also have a pair of speaker and a printer. Please reply ASAP
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Heya I already PM'ed you my requirements. Please let me know, ok.
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Heya I already PM'ed you my requirements. Please let me know, ok.
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Here ur installation... so dont have other PC or other equipments connected to the diagram below?
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So wht do u suggest? I have 1 desktop and 2 lapie and i have 2 modem and a router and 2 homeplugs. I also have a pair of speaker and a printer. Please reply ASAP
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Here your installation...
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Hey,glk83, i have received the items. all perfect. great service and fast delivery. U guys should buy from ths guy laugh.gif
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thanks for the done deal. very good seller, willing to wait for me some more when COD... if u had this in lelong i'd give u a good rating already. rclxms.gif thumbup.gif keep up good work!
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I need 1 unit SKPX-DSL . the unit blew protecting my DSl.. rclxms.gif

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Which unit do I need? I have only 1 Streamyx line at home and so far have a few modem/router burned by lightning already.

The main phone line comes into my modem/router and the modem/router will be connected to two PCs. I need to protect my phone line. Thanks.
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Which unit do I need? I have only 1 Streamyx line at home and so far have a few modem/router burned by lightning already.

The main phone line comes into my modem/router and the modem/router will be connected to two PCs. I need to protect my phone line. Thanks.
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what is ur complete equipments list u having for ur computer... if for ur common setup, 1 modem with 2 PC... the installationa diagram should look like this....
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Hi. I interested to get 1 Cal-Lab Lightning Isolator for my parents 300 watts plasma tv and a dvd player.I want a unit which can protect both power and antenna side for the plasma tv.Which model suitable for me?Also, i want to know whether SC9517 unit still available or not?Thanks you.
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Hi. I interested to get 1 Cal-Lab Lightning Isolator for my parents 300 watts plasma tv and a dvd player.I want a unit which can protect both power and antenna side for the plasma tv.Which model suitable for me?Also, i want to know whether SC9517 unit still available or not?Thanks you.
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if tended to protect power and antenna only... STV9511...
if tended all in 1 (protect power, antenna, astro & telephone)... SFTV9622FC/SFTV9622FC MS2+3/SFTV9822FC..

SC9517 only protect power, but it is DIY module... i can get the unit for u if tended to get it... i dont have the stock on hand now...
otherwise MDSC0039 will be ur choice if not intended for DIY and it is Plug & Play...
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What is the product to protect only one adsl wireless router modem? need to protect the phone line and power line.
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What is the product to protect only one adsl wireless router modem? need to protect the phone line and power line.
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if only ADSL wireless router modem WITHOUT any wired lan cable with PCs...
SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL will sufficient to protect it without doubt...
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if only ADSL wireless router modem WITHOUT any wired lan cable with PCs...
SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL will sufficient to protect it without doubt...
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I see, RM 79 is a little expensive, if just protect phone line only, which product?
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if compare with belkin and other branded lightning arrestor, cal-lab should cheaper than them...

if tel line only, is SP9201DSL

i not recommended to protect tel line only since there had a complain from a forumer that his modem burnt which protected tel line ONLY although i recommended him to get SF9512DSL/SF9812DSL instead, but he still insist want to protect tel line and i told him bear the risks himself that the surge may come from power line...

so far all the forumers follow my recommendation, not complain so far and their equipment protected well..
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if compare with belkin and other branded lightning arrestor, cal-lab should cheaper than them...

if tel line only, is SP9201DSL

i not recommended to protect tel line only since there had a complain from a forumer that his modem burnt which protected tel line ONLY although i recommended him to get SF9512DSL/SF9812DSL instead, but he still insist want to protect tel line and i told him bear the risks himself that the surge may come from power line...

so far all the forumers follow my recommendation, not complain so far and their equipment protected well..
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In my experience, most of my modem burn just through the phone line, the other equipments which plug to power socket are not affected. So, this SP9201DSL is for phone line only, RM 29 right? I see you got other similar product: SP9201DAF, SCSD9623, SLAN4536, what are the difference?

I have a cordless phone need to protect also, your products for cordless phone are:


SP9201 (Std Version), Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount
SP9201AR, Protect:T -> RRP:RM29, No Discount
MDSP9922 (Splitter), Protect:TT -> RRP:RM33, No Discount
TJP9633 (15V/30V), Protect:dc T -> RRP:RM39, 10%off, Now:RM36
SF9812 (+SKPS analog module), Protect:PT -> RRP:RM89, 15%off, Now:RM76
DCJ9630 (15V/30V), Protect:DC jack adaptor -> RRP:RM9.90, No Discount
SPKS (Digital, Analog, DSL), Protect:T -> RRP:RM19, No Discount

what are the difference? can I use the SP9201DSL also for the cordless phone? currently the cordless phone is connected to a adsl filter and located at different room than the modem.

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what are the difference? can I use the SP9201DSL also for the cordless phone? currently the cordless phone is connected to a adsl filter.
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if u intended to protect cordless phone together with ur modem and both units located at the same place...
SP9201DAF, it work same as ADSL splitter filter... just replace ur ordinary ADSL splitter filter with cal-lab unit...

Cal-Lab wont have any responsibility if any damaged equipments found which protected by cal-lab units if tended to protect tel line only...
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Jan 6 2008, 10:07 PM)
if tended to protect power and antenna only... STV9511...
if tended all in 1 (protect power, antenna, astro & telephone)... SFTV9622FC/SFTV9622FC MS2+3/SFTV9822FC..

SC9517 only protect power, but it is DIY module... i can get the unit for u if tended to get it... i dont have the stock on hand now...
otherwise MDSC0039 will be ur choice if not intended for DIY and it is Plug & Play...
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How much total price for STV9511-MS1+3 and SC9517? rclxms.gif
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How much total price for STV9511-MS1+3 and SC9517? rclxms.gif
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u can try to consider on SFTV9622FC instead the STV9511MS1+3 since both of them are same price...
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u can try to consider on SFTV9622FC instead the STV9511MS1+3 since both of them are same price...
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But i need 2 pins socket for the DVD player.That's why i choose it.So, how much the price?? tongue.gif
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WTA .. the sockets with antaenna input use as antaenaa? how do you use that slot?
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there have number of cal-lab dealers around Klang Valley, but most of them not taking full range of cal-lab products...
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can u name a few?
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http://www.cal-lab.com/apo-list.htm#03

cal-lab received some customer's complaint regarding their dealers...
beware that dealers recommend u the wrong models for ur equipments which caused cal-lab fail to protect...
and conned you with extra costs...
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I'm amazed at the level of professionalism you treat to your would be customer. The knowledge of your product is also very excellent. Therefore, I would like your suggestions on which model of cal lab will suit me perfectly.

I need to protect my 550 true power PSU supplying power to my PC, a LCD monitor and a 5.1 speaker. You can suggest a protector for internet broadband as well. Does product comes with a voltage regulator too? I have only one wall plug to support these items.

I hope your idea of which product to purchase will work perfectly and will not void any guarantee. Please propose a few with prices so I can choose from if you have a few in mind. Thank you...

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I'm amazed at the level of professionalism you treat to your would be customer. The knowledge of your product is also very excellent. Therefore, I would like your suggestions on which model of cal lab will suit me perfectly.

I need to protect my 550 true power PSU supplying power to my PC, a LCD monitor and a 5.1 speaker. You can suggest a protector for internet broadband as well. Does product comes with a voltage regulator too? I have only one wall plug to support these items.

I hope your idea of which product to purchase will work perfectly and will not void any guarantee. Please propose a few with prices so I can choose from if you have a few in mind. Thank you...
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Thanks for your appraisal, i just doing my own jobs without damaging cal-lab branding...

if ur PC setup & ur networking only involved 1 set PC (CPU, monitor, speaker, printer) & 1 unit of modem, but no other PC involved in ur networking and no telephone beside ur PC, SF9812DSL will suit u nicely... u can plug multisocket on SF9812DSL to increase the number of power socket for ur PC equipments

Cal-lab doesnt built-in with AVR features, but u can get aftermarket AVR from lowyat to enchance ur power flow...

about the warranty, cal-lab product will different with ordinary product's warranty... if cal-lab able to protect ur equipments (no matter cal-lab units still working or burnt after strikes by lightning), so consider it cal-lab was WORKING to protect ur equipments... but replacement cost may needed to replace another units since caused by environment disaster...
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Please send me more information about this model : NILI9920FcuHIFI

As this power cleaner is specially made for Hi-Fi, I just wonder did Cal-Lab did any test with any Hi-Fi enthusiast in Malaysia yet?

It would be really wonderful if NILI9920FcuHIFI really work to improve Hi-Fi sound and performance. The imported Hi-Fi grade power cleaner is quite expensive.. If this Malaysian made products can beat them in real performance, that would be a great help to all the Hi-Fi enthusiast in Malaysia rclxms.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

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Hi,

Can u suggest which model is suitable for me to use for my PC (monitor not included), include AV Amps & ADSL modem all in one.
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Hi bro,
Please send me more information about this model : NILI9920FcuHIFI

As this power cleaner is specially made for Hi-Fi, I just wonder did Cal-Lab did any test with any Hi-Fi enthusiast in Malaysia yet?

It would be really wonderful if  NILI9920FcuHIFI really work to improve Hi-Fi sound and performance. The imported Hi-Fi grade power cleaner is quite expensive.. If this Malaysian made products can beat them in real performance, that would be a great help to all the Hi-Fi enthusiast in Malaysia  rclxms.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(DEz012 @ Jan 26 2008, 11:12 AM)
Hi,

Can u suggest which model is suitable for me to use for my PC (monitor not included), include AV Amps & ADSL modem all in one.
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if ur PC setup & ur networking only involved 1 set PC (CPU, monitor, speaker, printer) & 1 unit of modem, but no other PC involved in ur networking and no telephone beside ur PC, SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL will suit u nicely... u can plug multisocket on SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL to increase the number of power socket for ur PC equipments
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@gkl83
do u have a cal lab lightning isolater for
computer's ( around 4 plugs + adsl) ?

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yes... IT pack come with 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
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hi gkl83,

what's the warranty like for the product and also if the product couldnt defend against the lightning strike and burnt the computer how ?

thanks for your reply.
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hi gkl83,

what's the warranty like for the product and also if the product couldnt defend against the lightning strike and burnt the computer how ?

thanks for your reply.
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About the cal-lab warranty, we not like other ordinary products like have warranty 1yr, 3yrs or 5yrs... we have the unlimited "warranty" (according LLSWA) even u used cal-lab products for 10years, which means after 10years and it spoiled that time, you can do exchange too by bringing the damaged unit and paying Rm25 (for IT pack) to office, the office will exchange immediately on the spot for a working unit for u... but let say if u plug it by today, then tomorrow have very strong lightning strikes the cal-lab products till damaged, but you used for 1day or few hours only, that was not defect product, it is protected your equipment out from lightning strike, so for tat case we have to charge u RM25 to do exchange too even used 1 day... cal-lab products is used to protect your equipment, if cal-lab products failed to protect your equipment and u did the proper installation too, u have the right to do complain...

If you using IT pack, u must ensure all the pc equipment's power source must come from cal-lab, then cal-lab plugged on wall socket... I do a bad assumption here, let say all the equipments plugged on cal-lab, except your PC speaker plugged on wall socket... but the lightning strike the power line, the surge will strike speaker, later on the surge will pass thru speaker from the data cable to system unit... so your system unit will get burnt too even the system unit plugged on cal-lab...


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can you recommend me a model to protect my 29in TV, astro decoder & dvd player? How much will it be?
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can you recommend me a model to protect my 29in TV, astro decoder & dvd player? How much will it be?
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SFTV9622FC - can protect power, astro, antenna and telephone...
MDSC0039FC - can protect power and astro only...

MDSC0039FC will cheaper than SFTV9622FC...
if tended for MDSC0039FC, pls inform me earlier, i may take stock 2molo...

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ooh fast reply! how much is the MSDC0039FC?


QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 13 2008, 04:56 PM)
SFTV9622FC - can protect power, astro, antenna and telephone...
MDSC0039FC - can protect power and astro only...

MDSC0039FC will cheaper than SFTV9622FC...
if tended for MDSC0039FC, pls inform me earlier, i may take stock 2molo...
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ooh fast reply! how much is the MSDC0039FC?
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RM63 for RRP price...
but i quote u RM55 for it...
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Ok. Where to COD? I work near Raja Chulan. I can meet you anywhere nearby. Lowyat oso can.


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RM63 for RRP price...
but i quote u RM55 for it...
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Ok. Where to COD? I work near Raja Chulan. I can meet you anywhere nearby. Lowyat oso can.
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jalan raja chulan not short... sweat.gif

but i can COD 2molo at jalan ampang around evening... maybe time wont suit for us very well 2molo...
sunday can COD at lowyat?

so confirmed MDSC0039FC? i only have 1 * 3 pin power socket...
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Ok then I'll meet you on Sunday. You mean you have a one 3-pin socket right?

QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 13 2008, 05:22 PM)
jalan raja chulan not short... sweat.gif

but i can COD 2molo at jalan ampang around evening... maybe time wont suit for us very well 2molo...
sunday can COD at lowyat?

so confirmed MDSC0039FC? i only have 1 * 3 pin power socket...
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Ok then I'll meet you on Sunday. You mean you have a one 3-pin socket right?
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not i have... MDSC0039FC have one 3pin socket... tongue.gif
if u want to extend the number of socket, can get a usual multisocket...

then i get the stock for u 2molo and COD when sunday... smile.gif
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do u have any surge protection
with 8*3pin? with adsl compatible i mean streamyx port..
& how much will it be?

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do u have any surge protection
with 8*3pin?  with adsl compatible i mean streamyx port..
& how much will it be?
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so far the most power socket that cal-lab that can support is 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket on "IT pack" model
u can increase the number of extension socket by using multisockets...
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gkl, what is the combo that you would suggest for the following configuration.

Need to protect the following:
1 TV antenna
1 Astro
1 DSL line
3 3 pin plugs (5A each)

Looking forward to your feedback.
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QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Apr 1 2008, 09:57 AM)
gkl, what is the combo that you would suggest for the following configuration.

Need to protect the following:
1 TV antenna
1 Astro
1 DSL line
3 3 pin plugs (5A each)

Looking forward to your feedback.
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what is the complete equipments that u connected? such as TV, audio amplifier, DVD player...

if astro + antenna, i would recommend for SFTV9622FC (1 power socket only) or AV Pack (3*3pin and 3*2pin power socket)

ur DSL line used for ur modem + PC?

is it ur TV set (astro + antenna) located together with ur modem + PC?
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yup, everything is located in a single location.

I have the following. A TV, a 200W amp, a 400W computer housing. Astro decoder , and a DSL modem.

The AV pack is actually something I am considering. However it protects the telephone line and no mention on whether it also protects DSL lines. smile.gif

Also, for the AV pack, each 3pin and 2pin socket are at least 5A capable?
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QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Apr 2 2008, 08:08 AM)
yup, everything is located in a single location.

I have the following. A TV, a 200W amp, a 400W computer housing. Astro decoder , and a DSL modem.

The AV pack is actually something I am considering. However it protects the telephone line and no mention on whether it also protects DSL lines. smile.gif

Also, for the AV pack, each 3pin and 2pin socket are at least 5A capable?
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AV pack can support up to 10A

AV pack's tel module only support for analog phone, it wont 100% compatible with broadband and may cause disconnection... i would recommended for AV pack + SP9201DSL for DSL signal...

otherwise i recommended for SFTV9622FC and SF9812DSL...
but u required to plug multisocket on both of them to extend the number for power sockets
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the lightning isolator saved my router 2day! the skpx module was gone. lucky i have a spare one. so will need 2 get a spare from you to keep bro. wink.gif

thumbup.gif for Cal-Lab!

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Ok, i will take SFTV9622FC(1unit), SF9812DSL(1unit) and SKPX-DSL(2units). smile.gif

Since the 9622 can be used with multi sockets, I will just use that and put all my low power equipment to that.

Tell me when to pay (and also how much including post laju since I am in Penang).

I will PM you with the bank in details and shipping address once you tell me when to pay. smile.gif
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Hi,

Interested to protect my pc and modem. Here is my condition:-

Room 1
PC 1 Connection - LAN
Wireless ADSL Modem + Router(Built In) Connection - RJ-11 In RJ-45 Out
Cordless Phone Connection - RJ-11 In

Room 2
PC 2 Connection - LAN

Room 3
LAPTOP Connection - WIRELESS


PC 1 & 2 consists of :-
Monitor
PC
Speaker

I am using Streamyx 1.0m package.
Modem and Cordless Phone located on same table with PC1 in Room 1.
Main telephone come directly to Room 1.
I will need a ADSL splitter also. Either from CAL-LAB or i buy from others place also OK.
See which more suitable for my condition.


Need your help to suggest the BEST.

Detail Pricing and Discount Please.


Thank You.
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QUOTE(DreamChaser @ Apr 3 2008, 12:11 AM)
the lightning isolator saved my router 2day! the skpx module was gone. lucky i have a spare one. so will need 2 get a spare from you to keep bro.  wink.gif

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Glad to hear that... i knew that yesterday evening had a thunderstorm around Klang Valley, highly believed the SKPX DSL module hitted it and safe ur PC equipments... what u need to do now is do replacement cost by RM10 with cal-lab showroom located at Bandar Utama and able to replace it on the spot... it worth that getting effective devices which replace it by RM10 and saved ur PC equipments... smile.gif
QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Apr 3 2008, 09:08 AM)
Ok, i will take SFTV9622FC(1unit), SF9812DSL(1unit) and SKPX-DSL(2units). smile.gif

Since the 9622 can be used with multi sockets, I will just use that and put all my low power equipment to that.

Tell me when to pay (and also how much including post laju since I am in Penang).

I will PM you with the bank in details and shipping address once you tell me when to pay. smile.gif
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delivery fees will be FOC for you since u ordered in bulk... u PM u the best price for the units u required tonight...
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Hi,

Interested to protect my pc and modem. Here is my condition:-
                                                 
Room 1
PC 1 Connection - LAN
Wireless ADSL Modem + Router(Built In) Connection - RJ-11 In RJ-45 Out
Cordless Phone Connection - RJ-11 In
 
Room 2
PC 2 Connection - LAN                                                                 
 
Room 3
LAPTOP Connection - WIRELESS                                                             
PC 1 & 2 consists of :-
Monitor 
PC       
Speaker

I am using Streamyx 1.0m package.
Modem and Cordless Phone located on same table with PC1 in Room 1.
Main telephone come directly to Room 1.
I will need a ADSL splitter also. Either from CAL-LAB or i buy from others place also OK.
See which more suitable for my condition.
Need your help to suggest the BEST.

Detail Pricing and Discount Please.
Thank You.
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Here ur installation diagram, pls correct it if anything wrong... smile.gif
Will PM u tonight the best price for the installation below...
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wow very fast response..

checking it now..

Thx ya.. ^^


The connection is correct...

1 question is SLAN1236 for room 2 pc then how about room 1 pc.

Room 1 pc connect to modem directly according to the diagram, right?


Thx a lot ..


I check already. The SLAN1236 is for room 1 pc..
Room 2 pc LAN and power already protected with SD4C..



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1 question is SLAN1236 for room 2 pc then how about room 1 pc.

Room 1 pc connect to modem directly according to the diagram, right?
Thx a lot ..
I check already. The SLAN1236 is for room 1 pc..
Room 2 pc LAN and power already protected with SD4C..
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since ur room 1 PC located together with ur modem, which means the lan cable within 1 meter long, can be no to protect it since the protection within ur room boundary and dont have another external source connection to strike ur PC...

Room 2 used laptop right? laptop protected by SD-4C?
maybe u can relocate it to Room 1 and Room 2 protect power line only by using MDSC0039 since only laptop...
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Done. bank in to you liao. You should receive notification email from MBB. smile.gif

Thanks in advance and looking forward to the delivery.

I will PM you my shipping details.
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Done. bank in to you liao. You should receive notification email from MBB. smile.gif

Thanks in advance and looking forward to the delivery.

I will PM you my shipping details.
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verified and received ur payment...

Will do postage when sunday or monday. u will receive it when tuesday. smile.gif
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Room 2 is for PC, Room 3 is LAPTOP.

SD-4C have a SLAN1236 inside right?


So how much for following items

MDSC0039 x2
SLAN1236 x1
SP9201DAF x1
SD-4C x1

Is there any other option to avoide the earth cable hanging around.
Like I can replace the Room 1 <<MSDC0039+SLAN1236>> with a SD-4C. Can i ? But the MSDC0039 1-10A and SD-4C 1-5A.

For SP9201DAF i didn't see any combine version.
Of course i know there is customized service. But didn't really need to customized 1.

THX Again.. ^^
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Feb 4 2008, 08:19 PM)
yes... IT pack come with 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
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hi gkl83,

i would like to place an order for :-

3 IT Pack set.

thanks
pls let me know how much and how to pay.

thanks

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QUOTE(nicklim17 @ Apr 4 2008, 04:18 PM)
Room 2 is for PC, Room 3 is LAPTOP.

SD-4C have a SLAN1236 inside right?
So how much for following items

MDSC0039  x2
SLAN1236    x1
SP9201DAF  x1
SD-4C        x1

Is there any other option to avoide the earth cable hanging around.
Like I can replace the Room 1 <<MSDC0039+SLAN1236>> with a SD-4C. Can i ? But the MSDC0039 1-10A and SD-4C 1-5A.

For SP9201DAF i didn't see any combine version.
Of course i know there is customized service. But didn't really need to customized 1.

THX Again.. ^^
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Yes, u can replace MDSC0039 + SLAN1236 by SD-4C
but SD-4C should sufficient to provide power source for 1 complete set of high power consumption PC...
if u have 2 set of PC in ur room 1, u may need MDSC0039 instead...

SP9201DAF act as ADSL splitter filter... but i recommend for SP9201DAF as separate module, most of the lightning surge come from tel line. if u have separated tel line module will allowed u save some bucks for each replacement. but u can ground the earth cable into any wall socket's earth point or any points that grounded...
QUOTE(ParaOpticaL @ Apr 4 2008, 04:21 PM)
hi gkl83,

i would like to place an order for :-

3 IT Pack set.

thanks
pls let me know how much and how to pay.

thanks
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IT pack for 1set PC + modem only, if involved PC to PC networking may no sufficient...
and also PM u the price
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I have 1 set PC at room 1 only.
Consists of : -
CPU
Monitor
Speaker
Wireless Modem Router
Cordless Phone

I will replace a MDSC0039+SLAN1236 with a SD-4C.

So how much for following items

MDSC0039 x1
SP9201DAF x1
SD-4C x2

Shipping to Kedah.. ^^


Already Bank In...

Will PM u shipping details later.. ^^"



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I have two sets of PC but only have one power socket in my room.

I wonder if i can use a normal multisocket to plug into a MDSC0039 to power the two PCs and the other electric appliances (desk lamp, fan, and a hi-fi system). Will it be over-loaded?



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ahsham, you will probably want to check the total current drawn from each device. each socket is rated for 5A or 10A only.


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I have two sets of PC but only have one power socket in my room.

I wonder if i can use a normal multisocket to plug into a MDSC0039 to power the two PCs and the other electric appliances (desk lamp, fan, and a hi-fi system). Will it be over-loaded?
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QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Apr 7 2008, 04:25 PM)
ahsham, you will probably want to check the total current drawn from each device. each socket is rated for 5A or 10A only.
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that difficult to justify, prefer that u calculate the total voltage that it will consume for each electronic devices...
FYI, MDSC0039 able to support up to 10A or 2000w... u can try to look on electronic labeling, it should mention how many A or W it will consume...
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Gan,

i want order these items:

SF9512DSL-MS2+3 x 1
MDSC0039 x 2
SP9201DSL x 3
SF9512D x 1
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Hi, if i wan to protect both my wireless router modem and cordless phone at the same tel line... which isolator should i use?
Is SP9201DSL suitable? should i put it before my spliter?
thnx =)
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Hi, if i wan to protect both my wireless router modem and cordless phone at the same tel line... which isolator should i use?
Is SP9201DSL suitable? should i put it before my spliter?
thnx =)
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recommended for MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF... if insterested, pls place order now because i going to collect stock 2molo...
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hi gkl83, i have received my items in good order. smile.gif

Will try them out tonight.


Added on April 9, 2008, 9:10 amItems received are working fine. smile.gif Just hope I do not have to do lightning test anytime soon. Hahaha.

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hi, i need ur suggestion,

my configuration:


now i have 2 extension wire, 2x4port.

1 4-port extension wire:ADSL2 modem, 1000W water device, + header to another 4port extension wire for monitor, CPU, PDA, handphone charger.

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Received Today.. So happy To see the Parcel when i get home..

Anyhow is my 1st trade. ^^"

Installed and working fine..

Looking for BT to download and see if can Break my record DL speed. ^.^

Thx GKL
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QUOTE(popiah_mmu @ Apr 8 2008, 04:05 PM)
hi gkl83, i have received my items in good order. smile.gif

Will try them out tonight.


Added on April 9, 2008, 9:10 amItems received are working fine. smile.gif Just hope I do not have to do lightning test anytime soon. Hahaha.
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i would like to see lightning not able to harm ur equipments with cal-lab... tongue.gif

QUOTE(hi--520 @ Apr 10 2008, 05:45 PM)
hi, i need ur suggestion,

my configuration:
now i have 2 extension wire, 2x4port.

1 4-port extension wire:ADSL2 modem, 1000W water device, + header to another 4port extension wire for monitor, CPU, PDA, handphone charger.
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erm... means all of the equipments power source come from the same wall power socket?
i would recommended for IT pack or MDSC0039 + SP9201DSL if ur total power consumption still below 2000w...

QUOTE(nicklim17 @ Apr 10 2008, 09:31 PM)
Received Today.. So happy To see the Parcel when i get home..

Anyhow is my 1st trade. ^^"

Installed and working fine..

Looking for BT to download and see if can Break my record DL speed. ^.^

Thx GKL
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u welcome... icon_rolleyes.gif
cal-lab wont increase ur broadband... sweat.gif
but at least it wont decrease ur broadband speed, just affect very little... nod.gif
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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 10 2008, 11:35 PM)

erm... means all of the equipments power source come from the same wall power socket?
i would recommended for IT pack or MDSC0039 + SP9201DSL if ur total power consumption still below 2000w...

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yes, all come from 1 source,total is below 2000W.


izzit IT-Pack is below?
SF9512DSL-MS2 (RM93) + SL-MS2+3 (RM69) -> RRP:RM123, 15%off, Now:RM105 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

how many 3-pin port? i need to plug 2 extension wire to all my equitment, so if IT-Pack have >=2x3pin port, telephone port, then i will buy it, so pls PM me ur maybank acc, total cost to johor and etc.


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u welcome... icon_rolleyes.gif
cal-lab wont increase ur broadband... sweat.gif
but at least it wont decrease ur broadband speed, just affect very little... nod.gif
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Haha Juz kidding.

Anyway my speed juz like before. No problem to reach 100kb/s DL bt.

And allow me to sleep well last night ^^

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QUOTE(hi--520 @ Apr 11 2008, 08:59 AM)
yes, all come from 1 source,total is below 2000W.
izzit IT-Pack is below?
SF9512DSL-MS2 (RM93) + SL-MS2+3 (RM69) -> RRP:RM123, 15%off, Now:RM105 (Compatible with ADSL2 connection)

how many 3-pin port? i need to plug 2 extension wire to all my equitment, so if IT-Pack have >=2x3pin port, telephone port, then i will buy it, so pls PM me ur maybank acc, total cost to johor and etc.
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it have 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
FYI, IT pack only protect for modem, not use to protect normal telephone...
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Damn it - only discovered this product after a few of my modems got fried. The usual products didn't do their jobs well, or they did it once and died anyway.

Too many lightning strikes lately - that's what you get for staying on a hill.

Gan, I bought a China-made multi-socket extension with a built-in lightning surge protector that operates by "breaking the circuit" when excess voltage is detected. When the circuit is broken, no electricity flows through. There's a red button which you supposedly just need press to get it working normally. Here's a photo:
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Do you think this works well?

Plus, I definitely need a device to protect the phone line to my modem too, so I'll definitely be buying some stuff from you.

Thanks for your thoughts!
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it have 4*3pin and 3*2pin power socket...
FYI, IT pack only protect for modem, not use to protect normal telephone...
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yes, i just connect to ADSL modem, pm me the price, postage fee to johor , ur acc detail, thanks.
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QUOTE(dlcmh @ Apr 11 2008, 11:18 PM)
Damn it - only discovered this product after a few of my modems got fried. The usual products didn't do their jobs well, or they did it once and died anyway.

Too many lightning strikes lately - that's what you get for staying on a hill.

Gan, I bought a China-made multi-socket extension with a built-in lightning surge protector that operates by "breaking the circuit" when excess voltage is detected. When the circuit is broken, no electricity flows through. There's a red button which you supposedly just need press to get it working normally. Here's a photo:
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Do you think this works well?

Plus, I definitely need a device to protect the phone line to my modem too, so I'll definitely be buying some stuff from you.

Thanks for your thoughts!
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what is ur complete equipment tends to protect?
if just a PC set and a router only... no PC to PC networking... SF9812DSL/SF9512DSL will sufficient...

QUOTE(hi--520 @ Apr 12 2008, 08:39 AM)
yes, i just connect to ADSL modem, pm me the price, postage fee to johor , ur acc detail, thanks.
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Pm-ed u
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Pm-ed u
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PAID, pls check ur pm.


Added on April 16, 2008, 8:11 pmhi, i dont know how to connect my IT pack to ADSL modem,

which port is telephone line input, ADSL output?

beside the module, got 2 hole is for what?? why no label??

izzit IT pack come with micro filter?


Added on April 16, 2008, 8:31 pmi saw at the IT-Pack,

at telephone/dsl section, it label SP9201-DAF, label 1=no hole
label 2=RJ-11 HOLE, LABEL 3=RJ-11 HOLE,

but no label in or out...


beside got 2 small hole, for what??

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PAID, pls check ur pm.


Added on April 16, 2008, 8:11 pmhi, i dont know how to connect my IT pack to ADSL modem,

which port is telephone line input, ADSL output?

beside the module, got 2 hole is for what?? why no label??

izzit IT pack come with micro filter?


Added on April 16, 2008, 8:31 pmi saw at the IT-Pack,

at telephone/dsl section, it label SP9201-DAF, label 1=no hole
label 2=RJ-11 HOLE, LABEL 3=RJ-11 HOLE,

but no label in or out...
beside got 2 small hole, for what??
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Label 2 for "From telekom" and Label 3 for "To modem"

IT pack doesnt come with ADSL splitter filter... which means it cant protect analog telephone and broadband connection may drop frequently... so plug the IT pack after ADSL splitter filter...

Telekom -> ADSL Spiltter Filter -> IT pack -> Modem

The 2 holes beside the IT pack are used for grounding purpose for ur equipment if necessary if u having equipment's grounding problem...

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Telekom-> [ADSL spiltter in from telekom---ADSL spiltter out to modem] ->Label 2 for "From telekom" -> Label 3 for "To modem"-> ADSL modem


right?

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Telekom-> [ADSL spiltter in from telekom---ADSL spiltter out to modem] ->Label 2 for "From telekom" -> Label 3 for "To modem"-> ADSL modem
right?
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correct... smile.gif
just dont use IT pack to protect telephone, it may affect broadband connection...
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SP9201DAF (Broadband LI + DSL micro-Filter-Splitter)

actually i'm not understand, this SP9201DAF in my IT-pack ,what is the meaning of DSL micro-Filter-Splitter??

and i refer to user manual in the IT-pack,
referred to the diagram,
it show label 1(from telco)
label 2 (dail-up modem)
label 3(DSL modem router)


why u said Label 2 for "From telekom" and Label 3 for "To modem" ??


why beside got 2 hole, and u said it may connected to ground, why need 2 hole to ground??

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my modem just kena lighting last week, i need to comfirm correct configuration to prevent lighting...




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post Apr 16 2008, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(hi--520 @ Apr 16 2008, 11:42 PM)
my modem just kena lighting last week, i need to comfirm correct configuration to prevent lighting...
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dont be confuse... it just a casing from SP9201DAF to integrate with IT pack...
check the sticker on ur units, it mentioned it was IT pack, not SP9201DAF
just follow my installation instruction will do...

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post Apr 17 2008, 07:07 AM

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oh i see... that mean the user manual provided is not used...


i want to buy another product from u,
SC0039/MDSC0039 , izzit 1 port protector that can be connect to other extension wire?

what stand-alone module can be use to protect telephone and highspeed ADSL modem, and what model of this kind of configuration is come with micro-filter?

i need it for my home use.


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post Apr 17 2008, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(hi--520 @ Apr 17 2008, 07:07 AM)
oh i see... that mean the user manual provided is not used...
i want to buy another product from u,
SC0039/MDSC0039 , izzit 1 port protector that can be connect to other extension wire?

what stand-alone module can be use to protect telephone and highspeed ADSL modem, and what model of this kind of configuration is come with micro-filter?

i need it for my home use.
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the user guide just for reference, if u wanna to look on manual guide... u can look for SF9512DSL installation guide, it same with IT pack...
u can plug multisocket onto MDSC0039... SP9201DAF come with micro filter...
if u wanted to protect telephone, modem and PC, the combination are MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF

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post Apr 30 2008, 09:21 PM

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hi,
i am really fed up with my modems. got fried by lightning 3 times this year only not even in 5 months! Last month lightning struck my telephone pole outside my house, my modem, switch, mobo, cs-box, home plug got fried and i spent more than 1.5k to get it replaced n getting surge protector as well. then just yesterday only, i saw the lightning struck the telephone pole again in front of my eyes. i tot my belkin surgemaster gold series can hold the lightning, who knows.. my modem fried again which newly bought last month. however, the belkin is still function well without any problem. surprise that i spent almost rm200 for nothing.

Cal-lab wont fried? i mean after lightning struck, does it still function?
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QUOTE(tauevo @ Apr 30 2008, 09:21 PM)
hi,
i am really fed up with my modems. got fried by lightning 3 times this year only not even in 5 months! Last month lightning struck my telephone pole outside my house, my modem, switch, mobo, cs-box, home plug got fried and i spent more than 1.5k to get it replaced n getting surge protector as well. then just yesterday only, i saw the lightning struck the telephone pole again in front of my eyes. i tot my belkin surgemaster gold series can hold the lightning, who knows.. my modem fried again which newly bought last month. however, the belkin is still function well without any problem. surprise that i spent almost rm200 for nothing.

Cal-lab wont fried? i mean after lightning struck, does it still function?
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Cal-Lab will fry if lightning surge over its limitation, but ur PC equipments confirm will be in safe condition with proper installation and used correct models. Cal-lab will choose to "kill" itself rather than "kill" ur equipments if it detected not able to isolate surge 100%...

so far i sell cal-lab at LYN around 2 years and deal with 100+ users, none of them complains that cal-lab fail to protect for the users who followed my recommendation models and installation... smile.gif only have 2 of my users complaint to me, 1 is insist dont want to follow my recommendation, another is wrong installation caused back surge (after investigated by Cal-Lab staffs)...

and the replacement cost for cal-lab is worth for ur money...
maximum u just pay another RM25 to swap another working units with cal-lab office on the spot and for life time...
means that RM25 can save ur RM1500... smile.gif

I also have happy user that his modem still working (but cal-lab dead) after the day with thunderstorm around klang valley, he just pay RM10 to replace a small module only and RM10 saved his modem or even his PC equipments...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=16521749

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ Apr 30 2008, 10:35 PM)
Cal-Lab will fry if lightning surge over its limitation, but ur PC equipments confirm will be in safe condition with proper installation and used correct models. Cal-lab will choose to "kill" itself rather than "kill" ur equipments if it detected not able to isolate surge 100%...

so far i sell cal-lab at LYN around 2 years and deal with 100+ users, none of them complains that cal-lab fail to protect for the users who followed my recommendation models and installation...  smile.gif only have 2 of my users complaint to me, 1 is insist dont want to follow my recommendation, another is wrong installation caused back surge (after investigated by Cal-Lab staffs)...

and the replacement cost for cal-lab is worth for ur money...
maximum u just pay another RM25 to swap another working units with cal-lab office on the spot and for life time...
means that RM25 can save ur RM1500...  smile.gif

I also have happy user that his modem still working (but cal-lab dead) after the day with thunderstorm around klang valley, he just pay RM10 to replace a small module only and RM10 saved his modem or even his PC equipments...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=16521749
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if i order the IT pack, how much is the shipping cost to east malaysia (kuching, sarawak)
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QUOTE(tauevo @ Apr 30 2008, 11:38 PM)
if i order the IT pack, how much is the shipping cost to east malaysia (kuching, sarawak)
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for me i will recommend u to get SF9812DSL instead which ease to deliver damaged small module (SKPXDSL) to Johor for repairing jobs and cost u RM10, also u need to bear the delivery cost to send it... of course must be as low as possible and a small module wont cost u much... But IT pack kinda big and heavy and u have the bear the delivery cost more than a small module... unless u means ur PC power consumption are very high and used few set of PC from cal lab units...

Also, IT pack and SF9812DSL only used on 1set of PC with modem and no PC to PC networking involved...
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i want to protect 1 set of desktop(cpu tower,monitor,keyboard & mouse), it is networked cable for internet.. but the router isnt mine.. (so no need protect router) which surge protector you recommend? pls pm me
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QUOTE(jong52yuara @ May 4 2008, 02:36 PM)
i want to protect 1 set of desktop(cpu tower,monitor,keyboard & mouse), it is networked cable for internet.. but the router isnt mine.. (so no need protect router) which surge protector you recommend? pls pm me
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if to protect ur computer which connected with lan cable (networking) only and ignore the modem router...
SD-4C fit to ur requirements, it protect power and lan cable...
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highly recommended seller, item received! thanks! thumbup.gif
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dude..i need to protect my router only..can suggest me which one?one plug only needed to protect
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QUOTE(amir47 @ May 16 2008, 02:02 AM)
dude..i need to protect my router only..can suggest me which one?one plug only needed to protect
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is ur router connect to ur PC/Laptop by wire (lan cable) or thru wireless?
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lan cable..5 port
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QUOTE(amir47 @ May 16 2008, 06:36 PM)
lan cable..5 port
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u required to protect the 5 lan cable is possible...
there have the possibility that the surge come from lan cable and strike ur router although ur router protected by cal-lab... but if insist tend to protect router and ignore the surge may come from lan cable, u have to take the responsibility that router may damage anytime although protected the power and tel line... hope u can understand what i means...
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Free bump for you.... very good products!
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I want to buy this two items, pls pm me best price + payment method:
MDSC0039 x1
SP9201DAF x1

I plan to use them with
- a multi-socket (connect to 2PCs and some peripherals, with total <2000w),
- a phone
- a ADSL modem router.

Please check whether the wiring is correct, or any better recommendation:

user posted image


Thx.

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post May 21 2008, 07:56 PM

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just pmed u,

btw,my eq is ,
<modem-wlan router-network storage-server pc(24/7online)-client pc>

all connected via lan cable except laptop
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QUOTE(ahsham @ May 21 2008, 07:44 PM)
I want to buy this two items, pls pm me best price + payment method:
MDSC0039 x1
SP9201DAF x1

I plan to use them with
- a multi-socket (connect to 2PCs and some peripherals, with total <2000w),
- a phone
- a ADSL modem router.

Please check whether the wiring is correct, or any better recommendation:

user posted image
Thx.
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yup... the models u used and urs installation was correct... smile.gif
how about the computer which no connected to router? is standalone computer or connect internet thru wireless?
still have any equipments in ur room as well except PC stuffs?

QUOTE(Nine9 @ May 21 2008, 07:56 PM)
just pmed u,

btw,my eq is ,
<modem-wlan router-network storage-server pc(24/7online)-client pc>

all connected via lan cable except laptop
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maybe i have ur diagram like ahsham did?
bcos i required to know the distance between ur equipments as well and propose the correct models for each ur equipments's combination...
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yes almost the same, all eq are near about 1~3M only,from the diagram there is no lan protection, izzit safe ?

can telephone protection at the main outlet phone wall socket work well with adsl + fax + phone

diagram:
wall phone outlet -<isolator>---> splitter ----> modem/fax/phone
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QUOTE(Nine9 @ May 21 2008, 08:15 PM)
yes almost the same, all eq are near about 1~3M only,from the diagram there is no lan protection, izzit safe ?

can telephone protection at the main outlet phone wall socket work well with adsl + fax + phone

diagram:
wall phone outlet -<isolator>---> splitter ----> modem/fax/phone
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erm... why suddenly pop up another fax and phone? sweat.gif
if possible, draw a simple layout for equipments within ur room and show me how the physical connection will be...
very difficult for me to imagine ur equipment's location and u may miss out any related equipments which may caused the back surge...
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here my diagram :

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QUOTE(Nine9 @ May 21 2008, 08:41 PM)
here my diagram :

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confirm with u again, is it all the equipments in ur layout located at the same room or within the small area?

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 21 2008, 08:04 PM)
yup... the models u used and urs installation was correct... smile.gif
how about the computer which no connected to router? is standalone computer or connect internet thru wireless?
still have any equipments in ur room as well except PC stuffs?
Actually the other computer is connected to the router as well (i forgot to draw the connection).

The rest of the equipments / peripherals in my room are:
- desk lamp (9W)
- 2.1 Altec Lancing speaker (31W total)
- printer (7W)
- table fan (<80W)
- ipod radio+clock dock (4W)
- adaptors to recharge my laptop, mobile phone, and ipod.

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 21 2008, 08:54 PM)
confirm with u again, is it all the equipments in ur layout located at the same room or within the small area?
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yup in the same small room
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QUOTE(ahsham @ May 21 2008, 08:58 PM)
Actually the other computer is connected to the router as well (i forgot to draw the connection).

The rest of the equipments / peripherals in my room are:
- desk lamp (9W)
- 2.1 Altec Lancing speaker (31W total)
- printer (7W)
- table fan (<80W)
- ipod radio+clock dock (4W)
- adaptors to recharge my laptop, mobile phone, and ipod.

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so printer, speaker & adaptor (laptop if wired lan cable and ipod if USB connected for long term) must include into ur installation diagram as well...
regarding the desk lamp, table fan, radio + clock can be exclude since there have not direct connection between PC peripherals...
how about the distance between the router and both PCs?

QUOTE(Nine9 @ May 21 2008, 09:01 PM)
yup in the same small room
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as requested... i think the network storage connected together with TNB1 or another way around...
because ur PC and server is the higher power consumption among ur equipments... perhaps modem, router, network storage and PC connected to TNB1, and server, fax and phone (cordless) from TNB2... but depend on ur physically connection... my point here was i recommend the PC and server dont share the same power point from same MDSC0039..
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erm,

power calculation,
TNB1 = modem (12W) + WLAN (19W) + NS ( 120W) + FAX&PH (90W)=241W
TNB2 = Server (650W) + PC (350W) = 1KW

wow that great

how much will it cost ? (included postage fee to kelantan)

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QUOTE(gkl83 @ May 21 2008, 09:24 PM)
so printer, speaker & adaptor (laptop if wired lan cable and ipod if USB connected for long term) must include into ur installation diagram as well...
regarding the desk lamp, table fan, radio + clock can be exclude since there have not direct connection between PC peripherals...
how about the distance between the router and both PCs?
The laptop connects to the router wirelessly (it's a wireless + 4-port router),
but I seldom use my laptop in my room.
I don't normally connect my iPod to my PC USB, only do that when transfering songs, which is not very often.

Here's the updated installation diagram:

user posted image

What's the total cost [MDSC0039 + SP9201DAF] + postage to PJ?
Thx.



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Gan,from the SP9201-DAF right,he need to put RJ11 splitter or from Fax machine going to phone because SP9201-DAF only have 1 analog signal output.. Hope this help smile.gif

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