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post Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM, updated 13y ago

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Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:10 AM

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why u want to force him say out loud in front of the girl ?
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:13 AM

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Bcoz tats how the gal know im his gf.....in fact the gal know my exist, but she still sleep with my bf...is obviously wat she trying to do...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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What is the reason for you making this specific request. It's more like you should ask yourself whether are you willing to forgive him in spite of him cheating on you or will you not bring this issue up in the future whenever an argument ensued between the both of you.

There's really no point making him confessing that the "affair" was wrong in front of all the parties involved unless you want to make him lose that girl he had an affair with and thereafter you to initiate a break up with him, leaving him with nothing.


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i dont think its a good idea for u to do that TS
since their working together its abit troublesome as well..
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10 years and still bf?

get over him, there are other men out there who would give an arm and a leg for you and will not cheat on you, just don't friendzone them smile.gif

cheer up, bf-gf things are not the end of the world. treasure your family, stay close to them, and then consult them.

i am not saying you should not give him a chance, if he is worth it, why not
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

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Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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post Jan 2 2013, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:16 AM)
What is the reason for you making this specific request. It's more like you should ask yourself whether are you willing to forgive him in spite of him cheating on you or will you not bring this issue up in the future whenever an argument ensued between the both of you.

There's really no point making him confessing that the "affair" was wrong in front of all the parties involved unless you want to make him lose that girl he had an affair with and thereafter you to initiate a break up with him, leaving him with nothing.
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What's wrong if i wanna make him to lose tat girl?I love my bf alot n alot...i just dun wan tat girl come n kacau us anymore...

Izzit wrong im trying to secure my feeling? I request to get marry, but he can't do it, marry is impossible for now. I can't lose him but it didn't tat he no need to so anything to win me back?

Are u guys suggesting I shd forgive him right after he confessed infront of me n said sorry?

Tat gal has surrounding my bf for quite sometimes, I did told my bf...but tat time i really got my trust on my bf, I tot he can tahan himself from making mistake..but I was wrong. Is this means my fault? I'm the one who make this happed?


Added on January 2, 2013, 9:23 amI'm 26 n he is 28....we talked about marriage, but his family disagree me...

This post has been edited by qinetics: Jan 2 2013, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!
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Did you pay for half of the bed? If you did, just ask for your half of the money back.


It's just sex, unless he's got STDs from it, there's no reason to get your panties up in a bunch.
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post Jan 2 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 09:24 AM)
Did you pay for half of the bed? If you did, just ask for your half of the money back.
It's just sex, unless he's got STDs from it, there's no reason to get your panties up in a bunch.
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I'm trying to convince myself that was just a sex...but my heart feel pain when I tot he was having sex with other gal on tat bed...
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:10 AM)
why u want to force him say out loud in front of the girl ?
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thats why u woman sometimes dunno how to jaga his face, you can just look for that girl yourself and have a talk with her.
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Ask him what is he willing to do to earn your forgiveness. And please let him know what he is asking. He is asking you to live with a splinter at the back of your head for rest of your life without having the right to mention it ever again.

Ask him how much does this sacrifice he is asking you to make worth and if is it too much for him to ask your forgiveness in front of that girl.

Well, if it is. I guess you should know the depth of your relationship with his answer and know what to do.


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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:22 AM)
What's wrong if i wanna make him to lose tat girl?I love my bf alot n alot...i just dun wan tat girl come n kacau us anymore...

Izzit wrong im trying to secure my feeling? I request to get marry, but he can't do it, marry is impossible for now. I can't lose him but it didn't tat he no need to so anything to win me back?

Are u guys suggesting I shd forgive him right after he confessed infront of me n said sorry?

Tat gal has surrounding my bf for quite sometimes, I did told my bf...but tat time i really got my trust on my bf, I tot he can tahan himself from making mistake..but I was wrong. Is this means my fault? I'm the one who make this happed?


Added on January 2, 2013, 9:23 amI'm 26 n he is 28....we talked about marriage, but his family disagree me...
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Not sure if ur bf kacau her or she kacau ur bf lol.

And marry doesnt mean he cant "curi makan"....

And why impossible to marry now?

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sad.gif is it purely just sex or feeling is involved? no point requesting him to do this and that if deep down inside you, you cannot forgive and forget. It will just haunt you.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.
Did he say this? Did he say he won't do this because he will hate you if you make him?

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 09:24 AM)
Did you pay for half of the bed? If you did, just ask for your half of the money back.
It's just sex, unless he's got STDs from it, there's no reason to get your panties up in a bunch.
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LoL. It's just sex. How is having sex with another woman behind your gf of 9 years back, is just sex? It's the destruction of 9 years of trust and love.

Ts, you should question his faith and loyalty in the relationship. He doesn't wanna get married and he can cheat on you after 9 years together, that's a red flag to me. A definite and clear warning shot.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:28 AM)
thats why u woman sometimes dunno how to jaga his face, you can just look for that girl yourself and have a talk with her.
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7chai...im jaga-ing his face tats y I ask him to go talk to her...If i go n find tat gal myself...the gal n my bf face will gone to hell...
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:30 AM)
Did he say this? Did he say he won't do this because he will hate you if you make him?
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Ya...he said it...my heart stop beat at tat moment...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:32 AM)
7chai...im jaga-ing his face tats y I ask him to go talk to her...If i go n find tat gal myself...the gal n my bf face will gone to hell...
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then i think u dun understand, sometimes for a man that already curi makan is hard for them to tell straight to the girl just end the relationship.

thats why what u should do now is meet up with the girl and have a table talk, but before that inform your boyfren 1st. Whether he agree or not, u also insist must go and see her
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:22 AM)
What's wrong if i wanna make him to lose tat girl?I love my bf alot n alot...i just dun wan tat girl come n kacau us anymore...

Izzit wrong im trying to secure my feeling? I request to get marry, but he can't do it, marry is impossible for now. I can't lose him but it didn't tat he no need to so anything to win me back?

Are u guys suggesting I shd forgive him right after he confessed infront of me n said sorry?

Tat gal has surrounding my bf for quite sometimes, I did told my bf...but tat time i really got my trust on my bf, I tot he can tahan himself from making mistake..but I was wrong. Is this means my fault? I'm the one who make this happed?


Added on January 2, 2013, 9:23 amI'm 26 n he is 28....we talked about marriage, but his family disagree me...
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it's all your rights as a girlfriend to make sure that other girls know their place but it's not entirely your obligation to make sure that your boyfriend does not stray. unless your boyfriend is drunk to a stage in which his capacity to rationale is incapacitated, i do believe that your boyfriend intended what had happened to happen. you said the reason given was that the girl wants to view Kuala Lumpur from his apartment, plenty of public places in Kuala Lumpur to do so in Kuala Lumpur.

inviting a girl to his apartment does suggest a bit of malice intention over here. is it in the night? if it is then it's really not that appropriate.

in a relationship, fault is seldom of one party so you should not take all the blame yourself, he has contributed to it as well.

whether to forgive or not, i think it's best if you decide on your own, however you may want to take into consideration like prospect of marriage and the possibility of this recurring again in the future.


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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:16 AM)
What is the reason for you making this specific request. It's more like you should ask yourself whether are you willing to forgive him in spite of him cheating on you or will you not bring this issue up in the future whenever an argument ensued between the both of you.
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Agreed. If it's unbearable to live with, I strongly suggest TS to just turn around and walk.

QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:16 AM)
There's really no point making him confessing that the "affair" was wrong in front of all the parties involved unless you want to make him lose that girl he had an affair with and thereafter you to initiate a break up with him, leaving him with nothing.
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Disagree. What's the point to have a close relationship. What's the meaning of fidelity and faithfulness if everyone were to keep a "back-up" just in case things don't work out?
Might as well explicitly indicate you want an open relationship just to be fair.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:35 AM)
then i think u dun understand, sometimes for a man that already curi makan is hard for them to tell straight to the girl just end the relationship.

thats why what u should do now is meet up with the girl and have a table talk, but before that inform your boyfren 1st. Whether he agree or not, u also insist must go and see her
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u know wat will i do if i meet up tat gal? I will go to their office n slap the gal n i will say it loud 'dun ever take off ur cloths in front of my bf again!'

FYI...his colleagues know i'm his gf...most of them knew..

Will this still jaga his face?
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:35 AM)
Whether he agree or not, u also insist must go and see her
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I don't see the point of meeting her. Waste time and energy. In the end it all goes back to her- to forgive and forget. Can she?

It takes two to tango. Even if she stops bugging your bf, if your bf is bored of you due to the overly long relationship, go "itchified", other gals can still come into his life the same thing will repeat.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:38 AM)
u know wat will i do if i meet up tat gal? I will go to their office n slap the gal n i will say it loud 'dun ever take off ur cloths in front of my bf again!'

FYI...his colleagues know i'm his gf...most of them knew..

Will this still jaga his face?
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no need be so ganas geh, do u think u will get plus point if u do this ? obviously no.

try talk to her nice nice, psycho her abit, if soft 1 cannot then try hard 1, i know u damn tulan but try to control yourself. the scarier u goes, your boyfren will just find another girl


Added on January 2, 2013, 9:40 am
QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:38 AM)
confirm gaduh even worse la  doh.gif
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if TS follow my method conform can hold herself.

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 09:24 AM)
Did you pay for half of the bed? If you did, just ask for your half of the money back.
It's just sex, unless he's got STDs from it, there's no reason to get your panties up in a bunch.
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It cold.

not every single human in this earth treat Sex as casual as you think . she is almost devastated by the act tht her bf has done ,

but i do look up on tht guy after doing it tht he still have the courage to confess .
in some point there might be different point of view if you view it in a different way .

1st scenario - ur BF must be pretty much care about the ur relationship ,

2nd - in some point he might do it again . showing you the true him (Male always Male, lust will over powered by his own consciousness ) asking you to forgive even there a second time

3rd - He wanna a break up , but without him saying so .

4th - erm .............................. nvm ..... the above 3 enough to let you think alot already . better to consult a friend .... we don know ur BF .. cant comment much .


All the best girl . + oil !!!!!
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:40 AM)
no need be so ganas geh, do u think u will get plus point if u do this ? obviously no.

try talk to her nice nice, psycho her abit, if soft 1 cannot then try hard 1, i know u damn tulan but try to control yourself. the scarier u goes, your boyfren will just find another girl


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then wat shd i talk to her....?? " hm...miss...u know im his gf ar?can u stop disturbing us?" or " u know my bf still loving me?y r u taking of ur clothes infornt of him?"

something like tat?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:26 AM)
I'm trying to convince myself that was just a sex...but my heart feel pain when I tot he was having sex with other gal on tat bed...
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Why don't you try and turn this into a positive experience, instead of raging like he expects you would, change the script. Ask him "So who's better? Her or me?", be competitive, men find that attractive. And if he leaves you, he'd be beating up his balls wondering why he ever left you.

QUOTE(joelucas91 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:31 AM)
LoL. It's just sex. How is having sex with another woman behind your gf of 9 years back, is just sex? It's the destruction of 9 years of trust and love.
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If you can't tell the difference between "just sex" and a full fledge affair, you're not qualified to judge.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:38 AM)
u know wat will i do if i meet up tat gal? I will go to their office n slap the gal n i will say it loud 'dun ever take off ur cloths in front of my bf again!'

FYI...his colleagues know i'm his gf...most of them knew..

Will this still jaga his face?
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You are pissing off at the wrong person here.
Let's face it. She has no obligation to respect you or your relationship.

Your BF on the other hand owe you his loyalty. Even if today you go over to the office and slap the girl will not solve the problem.
It's just a matter of time you will have to slap another girl. When is this gonna end?
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 09:40 AM)
if TS follow my method conform can hold herself.
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i think hardly lor whenever it comes to issues like this and taking into consideration the time invested into the relationship. if me i think at the very point when the guy said "no" i'll straight slam the phone and ignore him for a long long time. vmad.gif

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 09:43 AM)
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Why don't you try and turn this into a positive experience, instead of raging like he expects you would, change the script. Ask him "So who's better? Her or me?", be competitive, men find that attractive


I did ask him....he said i have changed...he saying he is annoyed to talk about it...


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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:33 AM)
Ya...he said it...my heart stop beat at tat moment...
shakehead.gif That is the absolute wrong response from him.

That being said, what you asked from him is not a very good idea. Having him ask for your forgiveness in front of her... or let's face it, what you want is for her to ask for your forgiveness too, isn't it? Do you really think that's necessary? Do you blame her for the affair? However it is, it's gonna be a horribly embarrassing experience for the both of them, and do you really think she deserves that? I think the only one who owes you something is the person who had your trust and betrayed it. That person is not her.

But for him to say he won't do it because he'll hate you... that is wrong. That is very very wrong. That implies that he is not sincere in seeking your forgiveness. That sounds like he thinks what he did is not that bad. In fact, after reading your post again, it sounds like he was angry at you about something even before he slept with that girl, and he's now telling you he slept with that girl to punish you.

He does not deserve your forgiveness yet. Not even close.

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then wat shd i talk to her....?? " hm...miss...u know im his gf ar?can u stop disturbing us?" or " u know my bf still loving me?y r u taking of ur clothes infornt of him?"

something like tat?
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seriously, do u have problems communicate with others ? If u cant even conduct what you wanna express to her, i tell you basically your boyfren will gonna tarpau by her again.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:38 AM)
u know wat will i do if i meet up tat gal? I will go to their office n slap the gal n i will say it loud 'dun ever take off ur cloths in front of my bf again!'

FYI...his colleagues know i'm his gf...most of them knew..

Will this still jaga his face?
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I think something is freaking wrong with you..

In your mind your bf are the holiest man on earth?? The girl is the b**** that seduces him?

Open your eyes lady.. A cow will not drink water even if you force it to drink.
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QUOTE(whoknowz @ Jan 2 2013, 09:42 AM)
It cold.

not every single human in this earth treat Sex as casual as you think . she is almost devastated by the act tht her bf has done ,

but i do look up on tht guy after doing it tht he still have the courage to confess .
in some point there might be different point of view if you view it in a different way .

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1st scenario - ur BF must be pretty much care about the ur relationship
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I duno about this...it sounds he is still care about our relationship...but how percent can I trust him now?

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2nd - in some point he might do it again . showing you the true him (Male always Male, lust will over powered by his own consciousness ) asking you to forgive even there a second time


He promised not to do it again...guys can I trust?

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3rd - He wanna a break up , but without him saying so
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He denied it.

4th - erm .............................. nvm ..... the above 3 enough to let you think alot already . better to consult a friend .... we don know ur BF .. cant comment much .
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:22 AM)
What's wrong if i wanna make him to lose tat girl?I love my bf alot n alot...i just dun wan tat girl come n kacau us anymore...

Izzit wrong im trying to secure my feeling? I request to get marry, but he can't do it, marry is impossible for now. I can't lose him but it didn't tat he no need to so anything to win me back?

Are u guys suggesting I shd forgive him right after he confessed infront of me n said sorry?

Tat gal has surrounding my bf for quite sometimes, I did told my bf...but tat time i really got my trust on my bf, I tot he can tahan himself from making mistake..but I was wrong. Is this means my fault? I'm the one who make this happed?


Added on January 2, 2013, 9:23 amI'm 26 n he is 28....we talked about marriage, but his family disagree me...

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QUOTE(shaniandras2787 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:44 AM)
i think hardly lor whenever it comes to issues like this and taking into consideration the time invested into the relationship. if me i think at the very point when the guy said "no" i'll straight slam the phone and ignore him for a long long time.  vmad.gif
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The main reason im asking TS to do this, is also another way to let the boyfren realize how "supportive" the galfren can be.

Rather than plainly forgive and forget, another year come, another girl climb into their bed. lol
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:45 AM)
I did ask him....he said i have changed...he saying he is annoyed to talk about it...
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That's probably because you didn't ask him the right way. Don't ask him in the angry you, ask him in the seductive you. Guys LOVE talking about sex. Encourage him to talk, say you want to know what turns him on etc. When he says whoever is better (regardless of whether it is her or you, it doesn't matter), seduce him and have hot steamy sex. It won't be long before he forgets about that girl.

Now if he still feels like he doesn't want to say anything about it, then he's probably going back to the girl for a 2nd or 3rd round. Then I suppose it's time you start looking for alternatives, such as getting back the other half of what you paid for the bed.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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sleep.gif sorry to say this, didn't meant to be a downer.
there's possibility that your bf will have another affair with that girl.
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If you think you can forgive him and live with this memory for the rest of your life, then forgive and make sure he understands what he did wrong. If you think you cannot forgive him, then leave. Simple as that. No point in forcing him to say things in front of the other girl, what satisfaction will that give you? Will you be able to delete the memory from your mind if he did that? If she was the one who started to seduce your bf, then yes, go and talk to her nicely and tell her to stay away. If your bf is the one who initiated the whole thing, then you go talk to her also kena shoot back by her only.

How sure are you that this is an affair? Is it just a one night casual sex thing since he was in an argument with you? It's good enough he TOLD you that he went out drinking and slept with his friend. Wouldn't it be worst if he hide it from you and you had to find it out yourself? biggrin.gif

If you ask me, he's annoyed with the relationship, he wants something new. If this is the case, no matter how many times you forgive him, he'll still go out and have casual sex.

The next issue is you guys can't get married because his family doesn't approve of you. So what are you guys planning to do with that? Is there a goal in your life to get married with him?
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wow...thanks for all the replies...Based on some of the replies..I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??

After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?

U guys know? I love him so much...i can't let him go...my heart pain bcoz i love him...i wan him to confess bcoz i love him...i just wan him to do something to proof he still wan me...as wat can he sacrificed to make us back together...

Am I worng?
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No more hope Liao... If u forgive him he will curi makan again next time.. Find another guy.. He seem alr bored with u even b4 married...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:59 AM)
wow...thanks for all the replies...Based on some of the replies..I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??

After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?

U guys know? I love him so much...i can't let him go...my heart pain bcoz i love him...i wan him to confess bcoz i love him...i just wan him to do something to proof he still wan me...as wat can he sacrificed to make us back together...

Am I worng?
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do you just want him to say those 3 words but didn't really mean it?!

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If you think you can forgive him and live with this memory for the rest of your life, then forgive and make sure he understands what he did wrong. If you think you cannot forgive him, then leave. Simple as that.

The next issue is you guys can't get married because his family doesn't approve of you. So what are you guys planning to do with that? Is there a goal in your life to get married with him?
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TS should seriously think about this relationship coz from what im reading, the bf probably didnt think of marrying TS.

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:59 AM)
wow...thanks for all the replies...Based on some of the replies..I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??

After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?

U guys know? I love him so much...i can't let him go...my heart pain bcoz i love him...i wan him to confess bcoz i love him...i just wan him to do something to proof he still wan me...as wat can he sacrificed to make us back together...

Am I worng?
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Wrong??? Yes, u chosen the wrong life and/or path in your relationship.

Guilty? No.
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Actually is totally up to you....

If you decided to forgive him, forgive to the end....
If you cannot forgive him to the end, then better cut short.... bringing unforgiveness into marriage is not healthy....

What is done is done no matter what.... if you know him well, maybe forgiveness can makes him a better person....
Of course there's also someone who just felt guilt and forgot that after forgiveness....

Nobody can tell you what to do, but weight it yourself.... it's your relationship anyway....

Words are cheap, and you are the one paying for prices....
Be positive, and look into the future...
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QUOTE(ketnave @ Jan 2 2013, 10:02 AM)
do you just want him to say those 3 words but didn't really mean it?!
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wat 3 words?
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I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??
No. The last thing you should do is jaga his face. Just that you should not jatuh her face. You should only blame him, not her.

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:59 AM)
After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?
No. Telling you the truth is one thing. Being properly regretful is another. I don't think he is properly regretful.

And I'm not sure he is very courageous either. Again, did you argue about something before he had this affair? That's what the "cold war" was about?

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl.

i think this request is ok wor, if i cares about one relationship i will do so
unless i want step two boat together lar, like what ur bf doing now
say request for forgiveness, n wont do it again

and u really believe about that?

pls lar dun be so
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 2 2013, 09:46 AM)
I think something is freaking wrong with you..

In your mind your bf are the holiest man on earth?? The girl is the b**** that seduces him?

Open your eyes lady.. A cow will not drink water even if you force it to drink.
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Actually, it's quite not right to "stone" TS because we're not sure how TS's boyfriend actually portrays himself in front of TS. The fact that TS still sticks with him for almost 10 years and still have not given her a ring in exchange for commitment beats me too.

TS is probably acting all "stressed out", "doing all he can for the relationship", "willing to sacrifice the world for her" and is very good at script writing for all i care.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:59 AM)
wow...thanks for all the replies...Based on some of the replies..I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??

After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?

U guys know? I love him so much...i can't let him go...my heart pain bcoz i love him...i wan him to confess bcoz i love him...i just wan him to do something to proof he still wan me...as wat can he sacrificed to make us back together...

Am I worng?
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whether u can accept it or not, man is ego. what he want from u now, is forgive and forget without asking anymore question.

QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 2 2013, 10:04 AM)

Wrong??? Yes, u chosen the wrong life and/or path in your relationship.

Guilty? No.
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i dun see she do any wrong also. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:04 AM)
wat 3 words?
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you want him to confess to you, by saying that he loves you, rite?

you just need him to say it, even though he might really mean it?
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jan 2 2013, 09:54 AM)
If she was the one who started to seduce your bf, then yes, go and talk to her nicely and tell her to stay away.
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No, she can't be going around telling every single girl seducing her bf to stay away. The bf will eventually start hiding things from her. She needs to encourage the bf to fess up more by rewarding honesty. She will then hold all the trump cards.

You need to work on your manipulation tactics, woman.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 10:10 AM)
whether u can accept it or not, man is ego. what he want from u now, is forgive and forget without asking anymore question.
i dun see she do any wrong also.  unsure.gif
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The bolded part is what she did wrong..

IMO she might probably be too naive to think everything is the girl's fault, not his bf fault.

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No, she can't be going around telling every single girl seducing her bf to stay away. The bf will eventually start hiding things from her. She needs to encourage the bf to fess up more by rewarding honesty. She will then hold all the trump cards.

You need to work on your manipulation tactics, woman.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:59 AM)
wow...thanks for all the replies...Based on some of the replies..I need to think about wat shd i do to jaga my "had affair bf" face after he dropped my face infront the particular gal??

After I hurt so badly, I still need to think about my attitude when settle this with him?He has the courage to tell me the truth...is this mean I shd forgive him without any reason?I shd appreciate for him courage huh?

U guys know? I love him so much...i can't let him go...my heart pain bcoz i love him...i wan him to confess bcoz i love him...i just wan him to do something to proof he still wan me...as wat can he sacrificed to make us back together...

Am I worng?
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What's the whole issue about whose face to keep and whose face to humiliate here? The person that did wrong is your bf by having sex with another girl. The less you care about faces, the more you'll learn to appreciate the happiness in life.

Honestly, you sound like a really immature girl whose bf has just cheated on her and wants the bf and the other girl to suffer and kneel down to apologize to you, to prove this to prove that.

It's not courage, he was just telling the truth, being honest.

It takes two hands to clap, if your bf is not willing to talk about this issue and don't think that he has done wrong, then what's the point you love him so much and can't let go, or how pain your heart is? He could be at the point where he just isn't that interested anymore and just couldn't care less. Are you sure this is not because of you? Like noob13 said, this could be the consequences of the 'cold war' you guys had earlier. What did you or him did that triggered that 'cold war'?


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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:13 AM)
No, she can't be going around telling every single girl seducing her bf to stay away. The bf will eventually start hiding things from her. She needs to encourage the bf to fess up more by rewarding honesty. She will then hold all the trump cards.

You need to work on your manipulation tactics, woman.
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I agree with your statement but many people still cannot accept casual sex outside of relationship (TS included). laugh.gif

Honestly, I've actually reach the conclusion where casual sex is just sex. And it would be fun to know who is better in bed and try new things. brows.gif

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:13 AM)
No, she can't be going around telling every single girl seducing her bf to stay away. The bf will eventually start hiding things from her. She needs to encourage the bf to fess up more by rewarding honesty. She will then hold all the trump cards.

You need to work on your manipulation tactics, woman.
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Are u saying I shd do something to keep our relationship?unless i become his pet or else i duno wat can i do anymore..
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Are u saying I shd do something to keep our relationship?unless i become his pet or else i duno wat can i do anymore..
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It boils down to what you and him want from each other.

I bet you don't even know why you stick around anymore, do you? He probably doesn't either.


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I agree with your statement but many people still cannot accept casual sex outside of relationship (TS included). laugh.gif

Honestly, I've actually reach the conclusion where casual sex is just sex. And it would be fun to know who is better in bed and try new things. brows.gif
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Well that just sucks. About a year and a half ago my partner PM-ed you asking about "new things" and you said you're not that open minded, now it's too late.

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:13 AM)
She needs to encourage the bf to fess up more by rewarding honesty. She will then hold all the trump cards.

You need to work on your manipulation tactics, woman.
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Does she really hold the trump cards after he is being honest and confessed not once but twice?

You are suggesting TS to be the best doormat in this world.
I seriously doubt you would give similar advice if the gender is switched making you the real psedo-anti-feminist isnt?
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oo..someone asked about 'cold war'...

Cold War
I told u guys his parents disagree us...reason? I was planning to buy a property for our future, I did ask him to join..so he said he will ask his parents for opinion. Then his parents tot I wan to lock his lovely son in KL(he is penang lang). But I really didnt mean it...I told him I able to go back to penang n stay with his family once he finish his business here...or I will follow wherever he go...he didnt explain to his parents I guess...

So when he told me his parents disagree me all the time..I was shock!I angry him y he never explain to his parents about my thinking..why his parents disagree me?Ya...I dumped him once 5 years ago...I regreted..n I used 5 years to fix this..but unfortunately his parents didnt see it..I might not be the best in this world...but I tot I adi did my best to love him..I requested him to explain to his parents, but he said his parents are angry n he need to be alone...tats how the cold war started.

Is tat clear?
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ Jan 2 2013, 10:15 AM)
Honestly, I've actually reach the conclusion where casual sex is just sex. And it would be fun to know who is better in bed and try new things. brows.gif
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Where is you BF. Please direct your BF here! Introduce him to me. laugh.gif

I'm really curious if you can walk the talk. Because if you do, you are the coolest GF/doormat any dude would want!

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Does she really hold the trump cards after he is being honest and confessed not once but twice?

You are suggesting TS to be the best doormat in this world.
I seriously doubt you would give similar advice if the gender is switched making you the real psedo-anti-feminist isnt?
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If you dig up my previous replies to a guy who found out his wife cheating, I distinctively cautioned him against confronting the wife, which many of the CC'ers recommended. I said, gather all the evidence and then use it against her when appropriate. It's the same thing here, as long as she holds the trump cards, he's powerless.

Seriously, are you that butthurt about that gf/bf stealing thing that you're just picking fights when there are none?
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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 2 2013, 10:15 AM)
The bolded part is what she did wrong..

IMO she might probably be too naive to think everything is the girl's fault, not his bf fault.
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yes, she cant tell any girl's that trying seduce her boyfren to stay away. But, she must tell the girl that sleep with her boyfren to stay away from their relationship.

of course im not saying is entirely 3rd party fault, but without a signal of controlling, there will for sure have another round of affair coming on.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:25 AM)
oo..someone asked about 'cold war'...

Cold War
I told u guys his parents disagree us...reason? I was planning to buy a property for our future, I did ask him to join..so he said he will ask his parents for opinion. Then his parents tot I wan to lock his lovely son in KL(he is penang lang). But I really didnt mean it...I told him I able to go back to penang n stay with his family once he finish his business here...or I will follow wherever he go...he didnt explain to his parents I guess...

So when he told me his parents disagree me all the time..I was shock!I angry him y he never explain to his parents about my thinking..why his parents disagree me?Ya...I dumped him once 5 years ago...I regreted..n I used 5 years to fix this..but unfortunately his parents didnt see it..I might not be the best in this world...but I tot I adi did my best to love him..I requested him to explain to his parents, but he said his parents are angry n he need to be alone...tats how the cold war started.

Is tat clear?
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I'd have to say in this situation, you are at fault. You should have tried to fix it by saying "How about we buy a property in Penang then?" It will show you are flexible and at the same time committed to him.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:19 AM)
Are u saying I shd do something to keep our relationship?unless i become his pet or else i duno wat can i do anymore..
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Seriously, i do pity u.

U deserve better.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 10:28 AM)
yes, she cant tell any girl's that trying seduce her boyfren to stay away. But, she must tell the girl that sleep with her boyfren to stay away from their relationship.

of course im not saying is entirely 3rd party fault, but without a signal of controlling, there will for sure have another round of affair coming on.
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hm...i didnt said all is the gal's fault ok?>tat really pissed me off is my bf...not the gal. I will have my own way to punish him..but tats not concern in this topic..

I know exactly wat they r doing...wan him to rmb this awful moment? i wan him to confess...ya he might hate me..but i think u guys will rmb it right?He will rmb wat he did to me...in hate or wat...is not important.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:27 AM)
If you dig up my previous replies to a guy who found out his wife cheating, I distinctively cautioned him against confronting the wife, which many of the CC'ers recommended. I said, gather all the evidence and then use it against her when appropriate. It's the same thing here, as long as she holds the trump cards, he's powerless.

Seriously, are you that butthurt about that gf/bf stealing thing that you're just picking fights when there are none?
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If you notice the difference, that relationship involves a legal contract and this doesn't.
You advice there prevent the husband from paying alimony in case of divorce.
You advice here suggesting TS to be door mat or worse object of sexual satisfaction.

Same advice doesn't apply here. There is NO trump card to begin with. What she has left now is her pride & self-respect. She can't drop herself to a level losing that.
Love is a bilateral relationship. It's kinda syok sendiri suggestion you giving there.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:30 AM)
I'd have to say in this situation, you are at fault. You should have tried to fix it by saying "How about we buy a property in Penang then?" It will show you are flexible and at the same time committed to him.
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lol...i did said i will follow him back to penang...buying property in KL bcoz I can get a special price...I dun think I'm the mistake if I wan to invest in KL...

N if he really cant, just leave it...I will buy it on my own...but then y suddenly his parents disagree me?Can u imagine wat he said infront of his parents about me?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:36 AM)
hm...i didnt said all is the gal's fault ok?>tat really pissed me off is my bf...not the gal. I will have my own way to punish him..but tats not concern in this topic..

I know exactly wat they r doing...wan him to rmb this awful moment? i wan him to confess...ya he might hate me..but i think u guys will rmb it right?He will rmb wat he did to me...in hate or wat...is not important.
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if you make him hate you, then ur relationship will not last long.

instead, make him feel like owing you for rest of life
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 2 2013, 10:36 AM)
If you notice the difference, that relationship involves a legal contract and this doesn't.
You advice there prevent the husband from paying alimony in case of divorce.
You advice here suggesting TS to be door mat or worse object of sexual satisfaction.

Same advice doesn't apply here. There is NO trump card to begin with. What she has left now is her pride & self-respect. She can't drop herself to a level losing that.
Love is a bilateral relationship.  It's kinda syok sendiri suggestion you giving there.
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So rewarding your partner for honesty is being a doormat in your books, eh? Guess I shouldn't be suprised that you advocate deception.

Trump card still applies here, it's called the victim card, in this case, she really is the victim and not only that, she put effort into fixing it. Look if you don't understand how things work, why don't you quit being a jackass about being outsmarted?

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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 10:39 AM)
if you make him hate you, then ur relationship will not last long.

instead, make him feel like owing you for rest of life
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owing me for rest of my life? So I have to beg him back to my side...n forget about wat he did..n he will feel he is owing me?

Guys...thanks all of u..

I posted here bcoz I wanna know more n understand more about wat guys are thinking...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:41 AM)
owing me for rest of my life? So I have to beg him back to my side...n forget about wat he did..n he will feel he is owing me?

Guys...thanks all of u..

I posted here bcoz I wanna know more n understand more about wat guys are thinking...
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no need beg him, but he will beg you instead.
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So rewarding your partner for honesty is being a doormat in your books, eh? Guess I shouldn't be suprised that you advocate deception.
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no need beg him, but he will beg you instead.
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He beg me...he promised alot n alot..will this make him feel he is owing me for rest of my life?

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Amanda Fong..is the one who got beaten?
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Amanda was married, but my point is you need to know how to play your cards right. Don't give in to your rage, sometimes you need to be cold and calculative, SOMETIMES.
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lol...i did said i will follow him back to penang...buying property in KL bcoz I can get a special price...I dun think I'm the mistake if I wan to invest in KL...

N if he really cant, just leave it...I will buy it on my own...but then y suddenly his parents disagree me?Can u imagine wat he said infront of his parents about me?
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No I cant imagine becoz u never tell, and u seems like OKAY with that for 10 years already??

Now, CAN YOU IMAGINE???

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:41 AM)
owing me for rest of my life? So I have to beg him back to my side...n forget about wat he did..n he will feel he is owing me?

Guys...thanks all of u..

I posted here bcoz I wanna know more n understand more about wat guys are thinking...
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Do you even know what you are talking now??

When i read your replies earlier, you sounds like u are willing to do anything even if u have to beg for him to be with u.
Now u talking a different thing?
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Amanda was married, but my point is you need to know how to play your cards right. Don't give in to your rage, sometimes you need to be cold and calculative, SOMETIMES.
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tats y i need to know how guys normally think....if i need to talk with him nicely...i need to know wat he probably will do for next...

Can u guys give more advises? I need comments....thanks
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:43 AM)
Amanda Fong..is the one who got beaten?


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He beg me...he promised alot n alot..will this make him feel he is owing me for rest of my life?
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No I cant imagine becoz u never tell, and u seems like OKAY with that for 10 years already??

Now, CAN YOU IMAGINE???
Do you even know what you are talking now??

Bcoz he never tell me...when I visited to his house...his parents seems ok to me...I never know that I was disagree by his parents...tats y I was shock when I 1st know it after 10 years..


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When i read your replies earlier, you sounds like u are willing to do anything even if u have to beg for him to be with u.
Now u talking a different thing?


I mean...even i beg him but i dont think he will feel owing me for rest of my life...i willing to stay together with him...but he sure has to do something to gain my apologize right? Being honest to me is not enough to gain my apologize...


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i know you are smart girl lai geh, you should know what you can do
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lolz...7chai..u r funny..

We just chatting over here n u know im a smart girl....

My thought is....in this relationship...I was a fool...a god damn fool...

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:52 AM)
Bcoz he never tell me...when I visited to his house...his parents seems ok to me...I never know that I was disagree by his parents...tats y I was shock when I 1st know it after 10 years..
I mean...even i beg him but i dont think he will feel owing me for rest of my life...i willing to stay together with him...but he sure has to do something to gain my apologize right? Being honest to me is not enough to gain my apologize...


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lolz...7chai..u r funny..

We just chatting over here n u know im a smart girl....

My thought is....in this relationship...I was a fool...a god damn fool...
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Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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You are pretty lenient considering your bf had make a grave mistake.
But just to remind you, your bf consented on sex with that girl. He did not reject her nor he was drowsy from liquor.
Your bf will repeat. But he will be smarter next time on not telling you.

About your request, its not over but it is meaningless if your bf is going to repeat it again.
and you and your bf is dating for 10yrs to get this kind of mess? what are you doing with your life anyway? shouldn't you settle down with him long time ago?
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Ask him "So who's better? Her or me?", be competitive,
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 09:51 AM)
ask him in the seductive you. Guys LOVE talking about sex. Encourage him to talk, say you want to know what turns him on etc. When he says whoever is better (regardless of whether it is her or you, it doesn't matter), seduce him and have hot steamy sex. It won't be long before he forgets about that girl.
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What is the intend of the above if it's not dropping TS to an object?
A very insulting level for anyone regardless of gender to find themselves in especially after almost a decade of commitment.

Imagine what a poor soul would be if she/he has to do that all over when he/she is 60.
Your suggestion simply disgust me.

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:41 AM)
So rewarding your partner for honesty is being a doormat in your books, eh? Guess I shouldn't be suprised that you advocate deception.

Trump card still applies here, it's called the victim card, in this case, she really is the victim and not only that, she put effort into fixing it.
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And what good exactly does this victim card does in this case webster.
No good and very insulting.

If she drops to the level you are suggesting, I only see more shit to rubbed on her face.
You are a misogynist anyway. I wouldn't expect you to come up with anything fair for TS.


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You are pretty lenient considering your bf had make a grave mistake.
But just to remind you, your bf consented on sex with that girl. He did not reject her nor he was drowsy from liquor.
Your bf will repeat. But he will be smarter next time on not telling you.

About your request, its not over but it is meaningless if your bf is going to repeat it again.
and you and your bf is dating for 10yrs to get this kind of mess? what are you doing with your life anyway? shouldn't you settle down with him long time ago?
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Err...read all the posts? lol..as summary...I wan to settle down, just he cant settle with his parents..

Maybe I just not the perfect gal for him n his family...maybe this is my fate
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tats y i need to know how guys normally think....if i need to talk with him nicely...i need to know wat he probably will do for next...

Can u guys give more advises? I need comments....thanks
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Why did he tell you about his sexual encounter?

Did he feel guilty so he confessed? Or does he secretly want you to dump him? I don't think he wants you to dump him because he asked for forgiveness.

It's already too late for talking nicely, time for talking has passed. It's time to DO something. Like I said, it's really about what you want from each other. Either you tell him "It's all cool" and be the woman he wants you to be, or you pack your bags and go.

If you choose to stay, there will be 2 things he could to be thinking:
1) I'm will never mess this up again, I will get my act together
2) Disaster averted, what a dumb woman. Now to set my next appointment.

In either case, you are now in control. He has committed a wrong towards you and you forgave him, it doesn't make you a doormat, it makes you powerful. It gives you the authority to decide what is ok and what is not ok in this relationship by your standards. If you had rage and slapped that s1ut, he would've thought you're a crazy biatch and would be glad to be rid of you.

Next is you make it such that it hurts to even think about leaving you, because you are now such a gracious gf, you do things to "forget" about this, such as making a nice dinner or going for a short trip to little genting or do something that boosts his ego. Buy yourself a new sexy dress even. When you're acting outside of the script, he'd be tuned in to what you will do next and won't have time to be thinking about other women.

But then again, it has been 10 years, does he still think you're hawt? (if you are hawt that is)
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:52 AM)
Bcoz he never tell me...when I visited to his house...his parents seems ok to me...I never know that I was disagree by his parents...tats y I was shock when I 1st know it after 10 years..
I mean...even i beg him but i dont think he will feel owing me for rest of my life...i willing to stay together with him...but he sure has to do something to gain my apologize right? Being honest to me is not enough to gain my apologize...


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lolz...7chai..u r funny..

We just chatting over here n u know im a smart girl....

My thought is....in this relationship...I was a fool...a god damn fool...
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I think u should talk with his parents... Coz now im confused..
I thought u said his parents were against u both marrying, but now its about buying property?

If they are against the relationship then better ask ur bf to choose now rather than delay.. If its about property, u should find out what are their reason and discuss about it.


Apology does not need to do something..Do you understand what does apology means?
It means one knows they did wrong, and they promise will not do it again.

The only thing he needs to do is showing u he wont do it again, not by telling it to the girl infront of u.
But by not doing it again. And you will never know until u found out again, and hope u will not found out.

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Why did he tell you about his sexual encounter?

Did he feel guilty so he confessed? Or does he secretly want you to dump him? I don't think he wants you to dump him because he asked for forgiveness.

It's already too late for talking nicely, time for talking has passed. It's time to DO something. Like I said, it's really about what you want from each other. Either you tell him "It's all cool" and be the woman he wants you to be, or you pack your bags and go.

If you choose to stay, there will be 2 things he could to be thinking:
1) I'm will never mess this up again, I will get my act together
2) Disaster averted, what a dumb woman. Now to set my next appointment.

In either case, you are now in control. He has committed a wrong towards you and you forgave him, it doesn't make you a doormat, it makes you powerful. It gives you the authority to decide what is ok and what is not ok in this relationship by your standards. If you had rage and slapped that s1ut, he would've thought you're a crazy biatch and would be glad to be rid of you.

Next is you make it such that it hurts to even think about leaving you, because you are now such a gracious gf, you do things to "forget" about this, such as making a nice dinner or going for a short trip to little genting or do something that boosts his ego. Buy yourself a new sexy dress even. When you're acting outside of the script, he'd be tuned in to what you will do next and won't have time to be thinking about other women.

But then again, it has been 10 years, does he still think you're hawt? (if you are hawt that is)
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Well...wat do u say if he try to uncloth after a few days of the affair n before he told me the truth?

m i still hawt or not?


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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Jan 2 2013, 11:00 AM)
I think u should talk with his parents... Coz now im confused..
I thought u said his parents were against u both marrying, but now its about buying property?

If they are against the relationship then better ask ur bf to choose now rather than delay.. If its about property, u should find out what are their reason and discuss about it.
Apology does not need to do something..Do you understand what does apology means?
It means one knows they did wrong, and they promise will not do it again.

The only thing he needs to do is showing u he wont do it again, not by telling it to the girl infront of u.
But by not doing it again. And you will never know until u found out again, and hope u will not found out.
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Haha Wacky-angel...good one..coz im confused too...

He told his parents he wan to buy property bcoz of my suggestion...property is for settle down...n he just told them I wan the who make the decision to buy property n get marry...he doesnt have any thought on it...lolz...is tat mean he never think to settle down with me?

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Well...wat do u say if he try to uncloth after a few days of the affair n before he told me the truth?

m i still hawt or not?
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My advise is u should put this "Affair" thingy aside 1st and attend to something more serious.

You should think where your relationship is going.
You say his parents disagree about ur marriage but u are with him for 10 years already.

I think its time for him to make a decision, or you make one.
You are okay if he doesnt marry you? you know u will not get anything from him if he doesnt marry you and u will have nothing in the end.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:59 AM)
Err...read all the posts? lol..as summary...I wan to settle down, just he cant settle with his parents..

Maybe I just not the perfect gal for him n his family...maybe this is my fate
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if you knew this from start and you knew you could not have get the end result you wanted, is it better you get another guy who can give you that desired result you long for?
If his parents stands in the way, you can either make your stand and prove to them that you are the right girl or you can bow out and wish them all the best. Apparently you choose to stuck in between and drag this for far too long.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 10:21 AM)
Well that just sucks. About a year and a half ago my partner PM-ed you asking about "new things" and you said you're not that open minded, now it's too late.
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Who was your partner? laugh.gif
I just recently came to that conclusion only. Previously, was still half-half and I usually not very willing to go out with people that I know over the Internet. You never know who is genuine and who isn't. wink.gif

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:25 AM)
oo..someone asked about 'cold war'...

Cold War
I told u guys his parents disagree us...reason? I was planning to buy a property for our future, I did ask him to join..so he said he will ask his parents for opinion. Then his parents tot I wan to lock his lovely son in KL(he is penang lang). But I really didnt mean it...I told him I able to go back to penang n stay with his family once he finish his business here...or I will follow wherever he go...he didnt explain to his parents I guess...

So when he told me his parents disagree me all the time..I was shock!I angry him y he never explain to his parents about my thinking..why his parents disagree me?Ya...I dumped him once 5 years ago...I regreted..n I used 5 years to fix this..but unfortunately his parents didnt see it..I might not be the best in this world...but I tot I adi did my best to love him..I requested him to explain to his parents, but he said his parents are angry n he need to be alone...tats how the cold war started.

Is tat clear?
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Why you never talk to his parents directly? Don't tell me you together with your bf for 10 years already still haven't met his parents or still can't talk to his parents.

You guys sound like you never communicate properly but just have very heated arguments and cold wars. How do you usually recover from these cold wars?

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 2 2013, 10:26 AM)
Where is you BF. Please direct your BF here!  Introduce him to me. laugh.gif

I'm really curious if you can walk the talk. Because if you do, you are the coolest GF/doormat any dude would want!
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The BF is somehow the really loyal type. laugh.gif

Have told him many times to go out and have fun but he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me. We have talked about it many times and he's not into exploring new things with others either.

FYI, I'm no where near a doormat. In fact, I'm actually quite the opposite. Just that sometimes, life is too short to take things too seriously. wink.gif
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Well...wat do u say if he try to uncloth after a few days of the affair n before he told me the truth?

m i still hawt or not?
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Ok, keep working at it. You gotta know which buttons to push. Bottomline, he's got to see you're not worth losing, if he's too busy thinking about you, he won't be thinking about other girls. Sure he'll get horny for other women every now and then, but you've already decided what is ok and what is not ok, and he'll listen to you because you've acknowledge his needs.

Oh yeah btw, please go check for STDs. You never know who else that slut has been fvcking.

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I find it strange( and stupid) that he would admit it. If he really feels regretful, she should just stop seeing her and get on with his normal life.

Maybe the passion is lost.



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FYI, I'm no where near a doormat. In fact, I'm actually quite the opposite. Just that sometimes, life is too short to take things too seriously. wink.gif
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Btw, RUI is really transparent on his hypocrisy, if you're someone he's going to have a chance with, then you're a cool GF, if he's got no chance of getting it on with you, then you're a doormat. And he calls MGTOWs misogynists, lol.
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Why you never talk to his parents directly? Don't tell me you together with your bf for 10 years already still haven't met his parents or still can't talk to his parents.

Bcoz I never knew tat his parents are disagree me...when i visited, they seems nice to me..

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You guys sound like you never communicate properly but just have very heated arguments and cold wars. How do you usually recover from these cold wars?

We did...but just between us...not between him n his family...
Recover from cold wars: depends...sometimes im the one make the 1st move...sometimes he...but this property cold war, i'm the one who make the 1st move..after the affair...he still msg me tat im not giving enough love to him...so i on leave n went to his office try to convince him back...






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Have told him many times to go out and have fun but he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me. We have talked about it many times and he's not into exploring new things with others either.

FYI, I'm no where near a doormat. In fact, I'm actually quite the opposite. Just that sometimes, life is too short to take things too seriously. wink.gif
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Lucky you. Remember that he gave you assurance and made you feel how you are feeling now.
But why TS is not getting the similar treatment. That says alot about him and the depth of the relationship isn't it?

On the other hand, would you say the same to him?

Careful with PM s2peMocls sent, he is explicitly said that ONLY SEX matters him. munkeyflo, you got a nice BF there. Don't mess it up. wink.gif

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Have told him many times to go out and have fun but he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me. We have talked about it many times and he's not into exploring new things with others either.
munkeyflo...I had this kind of talk with bf before...he said the same thing as ur bf(he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me)...but see wat i got now(no offense)?
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munkeyflo...I had this kind of talk with bf before...he said the same thing as ur bf(he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me)...but see wat i got now(no offense)?
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what's stopping you from finding a better guy that doesn't cheat, family approves and keen to settle down like you?

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what's stopping you from finding a better guy that doesn't cheat, family approves and keen to settle down like you?
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bcoz i love this man...bcoz i have be with him for almost 10 years...just bcoz i love him
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:29 AM)
bcoz i love this man...bcoz i have be with him for almost 10 years...just bcoz i love him
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but can u make sure u wont raise this matters again whenever u both got argue in future ?
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but can u make sure u wont raise this matters again whenever u both got argue in future ?
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I wont...bcoz it hurts me more if i raise it up...
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hope time can make u growup. 24 still young ma.
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27 adi la...bro..for a gal is not so young...i've given my 10 years to this man...I cant believe tat wat i got now...
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 2 2013, 11:17 AM)
Lucky you. Remember that he gave you assurance and made you feel how you are feeling now.
But why TS is not getting the similar treatment. That says alot about him and the depth of the relationship isn't it?

On the other hand, would you say the same to him?

Careful with PM s2peMocls sent, he is explicitly said that ONLY SEX matters him. munkeyflo, you got a nice BF there. Don't mess it up.  wink.gif
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TS bf not the loyal type I guess? Many types of guys in the world. smile.gif


QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:25 AM)
munkeyflo...I had this kind of talk with bf before...he said the same thing as ur bf(he says his body parts can't get arouse if it's not me)...but see wat i got now(no offense)?
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So like RUI said, we can't walk the talk. If you seriously had that kind of talk with him before, then you should be able to clear your mind and think this properly thru. Now it really happened, can you live with it? (for quite obviously reason, you can't) If not, then walk away.

As above, I don't believe that statement. wink.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:33 AM)
27 adi la...bro..for a gal is not so young...i've given my 10 years to this man...I cant believe tat wat i got now...
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what if he call for breakup ?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:29 AM)
bcoz i love this man...bcoz i have be with him for almost 10 years...just bcoz i love him
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:33 AM)
27 adi la...bro..for a gal is not so young...i've given my 10 years to this man...I cant believe tat wat i got now...
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27 is old?? lolz.
Typical inferior-minded woman.


Your choice then..
From what i see, you will either ended up breaking with him after few years from now and left with nothing, or he finally realised what you have done for him and marry u.

Oh if u want to make it happen faster, just cucuk the condom before piap piap...Afterall you just need him.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:33 AM)
27 adi la...bro..for a gal is not so young...i've given my 10 years to this man...I cant believe tat wat i got now...
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so r u planning to waste more years with this guy? move on before you can't! u r not getting any younger. the truth is, things aren't going to get any better. if it will, it should already happen
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 2 2013, 11:36 AM)
what if he call for breakup ?
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I duno...tat wat he is requesting now...with reason:dont wan to hurt me anymore...for me...is dam lame
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:41 AM)
I duno...tat wat he is requesting now...with reason:dont wan to hurt me anymore...for me...is dam lame
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Didn't you say in the first page he's asking for your forgiveness?
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Didn't you say in the first page he's asking for your forgiveness?
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Ya...now he said he dun wan to hurt me anymore..lame huh?


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I duno...tat wat he is requesting now...with reason:dont wan to hurt me anymore...for me...is dam lame
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so u die die also wont let go ?

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 11:42 AM)
Didn't you say in the first page he's asking for your forgiveness?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:41 AM)
I duno...tat wat he is requesting now...with reason:dont wan to hurt me anymore...for me...is dam lame
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:43 AM)
Ya...now he said he dun wan to hurt me anymore..lame huh?
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So your choice now?

Either beg him or stand on your own feet.
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TS is willing to give her bf a chance. So nice of her. I've been so loyal and I'm getting the boot.

Tis' life, I guess.
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so u die die also wont let go ?


lolz...i duno le...at some point...i feel tat im abit psycho...i think im sick...lolz...


Added on January 2, 2013, 11:47 amhm...later will go lunch with him...talk to him face to face lo...I scare i will cry like piping water le...like water fall...

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lolz...i duno le...at some point...i feel tat im abit psycho...i think im sick...lolz...
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if u dun wanna let go, be prepare seeing more of this in future.
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if u dun wanna let go, be prepare seeing more of this in future.
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then i come back here n chat with u guys....
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27, so wat???
y so desperotor???

as a man, the more u paksa dia, the more he will resist u. I believed your bf know well about your charator, that y he gain upper hand.

r u the type of stickery girl???


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QUOTE(peace230 @ Jan 2 2013, 11:55 AM)
27, so wat???
y so desperotor???

as a man, the more u paksa dia, the more he will resist u. I believed your bf know well about your charator, that y he gain upper hand.

r u the type of stickery girl???
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lolz...if i sticky enough...i dun think tat gal got chance to get close to my bf...right?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 11:41 AM)
I duno...tat wat he is requesting now...with reason:dont wan to hurt me anymore...for me...is dam lame
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I think he's giving up on this relationship already in a way he lets you decide what you want without expecting from him.

It will be a different story if he ask for forgiveness and add on with 'what can i do to make you feel better' or 'how can i do to make you heal'. He will go extra mile to prove he is going to change without any excuses as long as you are comfortable and getting rid of your suspicious. You can't force a person to be remorseful, he has to feel it himself and repenting it willingly

The card is already on your hand TS, continue with risk or letting go.
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QUOTE(D10yrspain @ Jan 2 2013, 11:57 AM)
I think he's giving up on this relationship already in a way he lets you decide what you want without expecting from him.

It will be a different story if he ask for forgiveness and add on with 'what can i do to make you feel better' or 'how can i do to make you heal'. He will go extra mile to prove he is going to change without any excuses as long as you are comfortable and getting rid of your suspicious. You can't force a person to be remorseful, he has to feel it himself and repenting it willingly

The card is already on your hand TS, continue with risk or letting go.
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hehe...surely i know the card is on my hand...if not im wasting my time doing all this...right?


Added on January 2, 2013, 12:01 pmNow I understand y ppl like to post their problem on web...talking to strangers really can gain something...my frens are supporting me for sure...but in internet there are so many different kind of advises...I really gain alot..

Thanks u guys....sincerely...

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What's clear, to me, is that he has a great deal of resentment for you. Your argument about property sounds like you over-reacted and behaved very btichily towards him. And his behaviour after the affair sounds like he wanted to create this drama. He wants to have a huge blowup between the two of you, because he's very stressed out and he doesn't know how else to deal with it.

Frankly, I think the two of you should go for relationship counselling. Your problem is too complicated to ask for advice on a web forum.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:03 PM)
What's clear, to me, is that he has a great deal of resentment for you. Your argument about property sounds like you over-reacted and behaved very btichily towards him. And his behaviour after the affair sounds like he wanted to create this drama. He wants to have a huge blowup between the two of you, because he's very stressed out and he doesn't know how else to deal with it.

Frankly, I think the two of you should go for relationship counselling. Your problem is too complicated to ask for advice on a web forum.
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lol...y so serious?I seek for advise here bcoz i wan to know more n cool down abit...no need relationship counselling ok? I'm adi counselor...now...my mind is 'boom' opened adi le...i know wat shd i do...thx


Added on January 2, 2013, 12:09 pmwa...my post can go up to 7 pages le...1st time...

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Ya...now he said he dun wan to hurt me anymore..lame huh?
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Well that sucks. He doesn't love you anymore liao, but he wants to make it look like you have a reason to dump him because he doesn't want you to know he doesn't love you anymore.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 12:07 PM)
lol...y so serious?
Your 10-year relationship is on the verge of ruin, and you don't think it's serious?

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 12:07 PM)
I'm adi counselor...
If you are truly a professional counselor, then you should know how important it is to remain objective. You are the furthest thing from objective right now.

QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 12:07 PM)
i know wat shd i do...thx
I hope you do.


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TS,

Stay calm and thoroughly think. Any future in this relationship? It has been 10 years, any parents who disagree a girl/guy would have accepted the fact that this will be their child's life partner. And there is no way that parents accepted you earlier and suddenly disapprove it... unless you are the one doing something "ugly".
I always believe that, parents is a stupid reason to stop a couple for getting married... especially in today's generation. If your bf really want to marry you, he would have plans to settle his parents and since you are being supportive telling him that you will follow wherever he goes. He never put in hardwork to make this happen.. infact allowing his parents misjudge you.. that obviously shows that he don't bother.

What happen already happen. The matter now is can you afford to lost him? To be frank, do not test a man's patient. Yes, he beg for your forgiveness.. but if you react too extreme and challenging him.. he will just give up and say goodbye.

If you really want to sustain the relationship, why bother about wanting him to sacrifies or do something to win you back? Do he need to win you back ? if you have not even want to leave him.

He can did such thing to you, that means your position as gf already at risk. Is not about whether he needs to win you back.. is the matter that you need to maintain your importance in his heart in order for him to do more to seek for forgiveness.

Guys do not like women over power them, they want women who looks pity and soft. Hence, forcing him to confront that girl won't work. You needs to find way to pretend pity, that he bully you and mistreat your care to him. Try to control your anger, if you can't.. at least be silence and don't entertain him for awhile.. but don't show black face. When guys leaving in blank.. they will feel worry and do more for you.
Hope this work.
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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:11 PM)
TS,

Stay calm and thoroughly think. Any future in this relationship? It has been 10 years, any parents who disagree a girl/guy would have accepted the fact that this will be their child's life partner. And there is no way that parents accepted you earlier and suddenly disapprove it... unless you are the one doing something "ugly".
I always believe that, parents is a stupid reason to stop a couple for getting married... especially in today's generation. If your bf really want to marry you, he would have plans to settle his parents and since you are being supportive telling him that you will follow wherever he goes. He never put in hardwork to make this happen.. infact allowing his parents misjudge you.. that obviously shows that he don't bother.

What happen already happen. The matter now is can you afford to lost him? To be frank, do not test a man's patient. Yes, he beg for your forgiveness.. but if you react too extreme and challenging him.. he will just give up and say goodbye.

If you really want to sustain the relationship, why bother about wanting him to sacrifies or do something to win you back? Do he need to win you back ? if you have not even want to leave him.

He can did such thing to you, that means your position as gf already at risk. Is not about whether he needs to win you back.. is the matter that you need to maintain your importance in his heart in order for him to do more to seek for forgiveness.

Guys do not like women over power them, they want women who looks pity and soft. Hence, forcing him to confront that girl won't work. You needs to find way to pretend pity, that he bully you and mistreat your care to him. Try to control your anger, if you can't.. at least be silence and don't entertain him for awhile.. but don't show black face. When guys leaving in blank.. they will feel worry and do more for you.
Hope this work.
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TS,

Stay calm and thoroughly think. Any future in this relationship? It has been 10 years, any parents who disagree a girl/guy would have accepted the fact that this will be their child's life partner. And there is no way that parents accepted you earlier and suddenly disapprove it... unless you are the one doing something "ugly".
I always believe that, parents is a stupid reason to stop a couple for getting married... especially in today's generation. If your bf really want to marry you, he would have plans to settle his parents and since you are being supportive telling him that you will follow wherever he goes. He never put in hardwork to make this happen.. infact allowing his parents misjudge you.. that obviously shows that he don't bother.

What happen already happen. The matter now is can you afford to lost him? To be frank, do not test a man's patient. Yes, he beg for your forgiveness.. but if you react too extreme and challenging him.. he will just give up and say goodbye.

If you really want to sustain the relationship, why bother about wanting him to sacrifies or do something to win you back? Do he need to win you back ? if you have not even want to leave him.

He can did such thing to you, that means your position as gf already at risk. Is not about whether he needs to win you back.. is the matter that you need to maintain your importance in his heart in order for him to do more to seek for forgiveness.

Guys do not like women over power them, they want women who looks pity and soft. Hence, forcing him to confront that girl won't work. You needs to find way to pretend pity, that he bully you and mistreat your care to him. Try to control your anger, if you can't.. at least be silence and don't entertain him for awhile.. but don't show black face. When guys leaving in blank.. they will feel worry and do more for you.
Hope this work.
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So many things for a gal to do to keep the relationship....
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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 2 2013, 12:11 PM)
TS,

Stay calm and thoroughly think. Any future in this relationship? It has been 10 years, any parents who disagree a girl/guy would have accepted the fact that this will be their child's life partner. And there is no way that parents accepted you earlier and suddenly disapprove it... unless you are the one doing something "ugly".
I always believe that, parents is a stupid reason to stop a couple for getting married... especially in today's generation. If your bf really want to marry you, he would have plans to settle his parents and since you are being supportive telling him that you will follow wherever he goes. He never put in hardwork to make this happen.. infact allowing his parents misjudge you.. that obviously shows that he don't bother.

What happen already happen. The matter now is can you afford to lost him? To be frank, do not test a man's patient. Yes, he beg for your forgiveness.. but if you react too extreme and challenging him.. he will just give up and say goodbye.

If you really want to sustain the relationship, why bother about wanting him to sacrifies or do something to win you back? Do he need to win you back ? if you have not even want to leave him.

He can did such thing to you, that means your position as gf already at risk. Is not about whether he needs to win you back.. is the matter that you need to maintain your importance in his heart in order for him to do more to seek for forgiveness.

Guys do not like women over power them, they want women who looks pity and soft. Hence, forcing him to confront that girl won't work. You needs to find way to pretend pity, that he bully you and mistreat your care to him. Try to control your anger, if you can't.. at least be silence and don't entertain him for awhile.. but don't show black face. When guys leaving in blank.. they will feel worry and do more for you.
Hope this work.
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so true, thats what i try to tell TS earlier on. Be manipulative
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 12:14 PM)
So many things for a gal to do to keep the relationship....
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Life...
All girls wishes to be princess, get bf pamper.
But there are still some of us who did not born a princess life. Believe me.. thoughtful girls usually have to do more to maintain relationship.
If you see.. usually those brainless one get more pampered. biggrin.gif

Anyway.. do know your bottomline. Coz some guys will not appreciate but infact extend the limit. If that so, time to move on.
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Why is the attention has changed from the @sshole being unfaithful to TS is the b*tch that causes that @sshole to be unfaithful.

What matters now is if that @sshole deserves forgiveness and if TS can live with this fact forever.

There is literally no justification for infidelity. And if anyone has got any; you must be arguing from a denial ground. Not to mention rewarding infidelities, you must trying to clown yourself.
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He's not married to you yet, so in a way it isn't an affair.

Besides, TS has shown that men should cheat if they want to spice up their primary relationship.

Based on TS response, it seems that she has shown a new profound respect to the guy. Look at the 7 pages of hamstering and love TS displayed here.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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Respect to your boyfriend for telling the truth.

The dilemma isn't about the sex actually. You were thinking whether to flush the 10 years relationship down the toilet bowl or keeping it up due to the issue, he cheated.

Firstly, ask yourself, can you trust him after this or not ? Can you be like the same as if nothing had heppened ? If you can, go on with your relationship. If you can't, end it, afterall the results will be the same.

Secondly, ask yourself, can you control yourself from not bringing up this issue (not 1-2 months or 2-3 years, but 10 years down the road) ? If you can, go on, if you can't that's the end.

That's all I can think of. But it takes a lot of courage for a guy to actually tell you they had sex with another girl, he loved you, I guess, just that he couldn't overcome the lust during that time ? He is still to be blamed, you have your own choice to choose. biggrin.gif
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He spat on your 10 years of relationship. Even if he does what you told him to, I wonder if you'd still be able to fully trust him like before. In the corner of your mind you will always wonder if he's still doing it; whether with the same colleague or another woman.
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If you cannot forgive him deep from your heart, better let him go. If he did what you asked, do you think u can really forgive him 100%? and forget the incident?

And for those who say, "It's just sex", seriously you are swayed away by western culture too much. I bet even later if you are already married, you will accept the fact that your spouse having sex with other people.

Sex is not equal to love. Sometimes people can do stupid thing. Same goes for your BF. But he has the courage to tell you. And he told u the truth instead of lying.

But still..... 10 years. Hmmmm that's long. I wonder what hinder both of u to get married.

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He dun love you lar... cause if he does he won't be looking for another.. kecian ts.... good luck finding new 2'
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How old is he? And how old are you?
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eh baca dulu la previous post sebelum reply.
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Tl;dr.
Straight foward question to the TS, since in my own opinion, both are still young (in heart).
No offense though. But take it as part of experience in life.
We only live less than a 100 years to taste every single fragment of feelings created by our mind.
Be open and accept the changes. The pain will eventually dissolve and turn into another scar on the heart.

Source : personal experience.
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Thanks for all the responses le..really do appreciate it..alot!!

I think I will just give a last chance to this relationship..i cant just waste my 10 years investment right?alto...is abit hard for me to make this decision...

Perhaps my bf will understand wat i've done all this..please guys...lets pray for me...thanks!
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 02:55 PM)
Thanks for all the responses le..really do appreciate it..alot!!

I think I will just give a last chance to this relationship..i cant just waste my 10 years investment right?alto...is abit hard for me to make this decision...

Perhaps my bf will understand wat i've done all this..please guys...lets pray for me...thanks!
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Let me just give you one final advice, in today's world, feminism has drilled it into the heads of many women and manginas that men and women are competitors.

They're not.

Men and women complement each other, do you want to compete with your bf over who's right and wrong? Men are highly competitive, so don't bother in that department. Oh their mouths may say "fine, you win" but they don't really believe that. Would you rather be engage in a tussle of emotional blackmails or would you rather be his trusty sidekick?

Which do you think he will value more?

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 2 2013, 03:02 PM)
Let me just give you one final advice, in today's world, feminism has drilled it into the heads of many women and manginas that men and women are competitors.

They're not.

Men and women complement each other, do you want to compete with your bf over who's right and wrong? Men are highly competitive, so don't bother in that department. Oh their mouths may say "fine, you win" but they don't really believe that. Would you rather be engage in a tussle of emotional blackmails or would you rather be his trusty sidekick?

Which do you think he will value more?
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ah?this thread is still ongoing? I thought the solution is pretty obvious *yawn* goes back to work.
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ya...i act myself as a puppy infront of him...lol
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well,

u come here just to get support for your reason, anger & slap the Btich to release your anger. Unfortunely, forumer point out the false of your bf, but u insist to accept the true. U overly protect (love) your bf even he did cheat on u.

That y ppl called love is blind, some profesional women willing to fall into the trap of LOVE PACKAGE no matter wat time, era, & age.

Good luck.

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QUOTE(peace230 @ Jan 2 2013, 03:15 PM)
well,

u come here just to get support for your reason, anger & slap the Btich to release your anger. Unfortunely, forumer point out the false of your bf, but u insist to accept the true. U overly protect (love) your bf even he did cheat on u.

That y ppl called love is blind, some profesional women willing to fall into the trap of LOVE PACKAGE no matter wat time, era, & age.

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i no need to get any support to slap her la...i came here to know more about relationship..u guys did give good opinions ar....
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Off-topic:

When the thread has the keyword 'affair' it rakes up 8 pages in mere hours. Other threads stay on 1 page sometimes for days.

So ermm - dat guy dai yet? Making love on bed spontaneously is a very concious decision which should be compounded by the 10 years of relationship with another woman. It just proves how much 10 years of being together is as a barrier to getting laid with some random woman.

I wan to see the muka kena belasah wey tongue.gif
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I shall give TS one last piece of advice as well.

Do not ever forget that you are the one who has been betrayed here. If you are too quick to forgive him, you are only sending the message that you will always forgive him for anything he may do in the future. And do not ever think that this relationship, or any relationship, is more important than your feelings. Never think that breaking up is never an option. If you think that, you will only become a doormat.

That said, it is not impossible for you to forgive him. He clearly has his reasons for doing what he did; like I said, he's probably been harbouring a lot of resentments against you for some time. That does not mean what he did is right. That does not mean you are wrong. What it means is, you need to stop thinking in terms of "right" and "wrong".

Instead, what you both need to strive for is understanding. Understand why he slept with that girl. Understand his feelings that drove him to do so. Understand why he chose to admit the affair to you instead of just keeping it quiet. (I certainly don't think it's as simple as him being courageous.) Understand the way he's been feeling all this time. The only way you can do all this is communication. Deep, painful, soul-searching communication.

But understanding is a two-way street. He needs to understand you as well; understand how hurt you are over his betrayal, understand your feelings behind the property argument, understand your own resentments against him. Frankly, what he said - that he will hate you after he cheated on you - displays a huge lack of understanding. Not a good start. But you do need to start.

In the end, if you choose to forgive him, make sure it's for the right reason. "I can't waste this 10 years' investment" is not a good reason. "It's my fault he cheated" is not a good reason. "He won't cheat again if I sayang him more" is not a good reason.

And on the other hand, if you choose to dump him, "he cheated on me" is a perfectly good enough reason.

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Hi TS,

I think i can see that you want this relationship, but because this thing is something new to you (your bf slept with someone and asked for your forgiveness), you aren't sure what should you do next....and a lot of "What if....."

What if you forgive him and he repeat again....so you think if he can cut it clean and clear with the other girl, at least you will have sense of security to march on...


I think you can make reference of cc980024's suggestion, don't take the whole thing there, always think whether it applies to you or not.

Noob is right on the counseling part. A relationship is not a one sided story, you need both party to reach a mutual understanding and a counselor can help you both to do so.

For example, he will be asked to agree not to repeat such sin whilst you are asked not to forgive and forget, hence not mention that again in the event both of you argue in the future.

Then both of you agree with the terms for the sole reason you still love each other.

Actually both of you are the internal part, once you can settle this, the rest all can be fixed. The parents, the girl, property, where to stay....all these are external....Get the internal things settled first wink.gif
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Cant believe it still going on!!!again....thanks for all advises!!!omg...u guys show me there are still hopes in this world...i love u guys!!
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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jan 2 2013, 03:56 PM)
I shall give TS one last piece of advice as well.

Do not ever forget that you are the one who has been betrayed here. If you are too quick to forgive him, you are only sending the message that you will always forgive him for anything he may do in the future. And do not ever think that this relationship, or any relationship, is more important than your feelings. Never think that breaking up is never an option. If you think that, you will only become a doormat.

That said, it is not impossible for you to forgive him. He clearly has his reasons for doing what he did; like I said, he's probably been harbouring a lot of resentments against you for some time. That does not mean what he did is right. That does not mean you are wrong. What it means is, you need to stop thinking in terms of "right" and "wrong".

Instead, what you both need to strive for is understanding. Understand why he slept with that girl. Understand his feelings that drove him to do so. Understand why he chose to admit the affair to you instead of just keeping it quiet. (I certainly don't think it's as simple as him being courageous.) Understand the way he's been feeling all this time. The only way you can do all this is communication. Deep, painful, soul-searching communication.

But understanding is a two-way street. He needs to understand you as well; understand how hurt you are over his betrayal, understand your feelings behind the property argument, understand your own resentments against him. Frankly, what he said - that he will hate you after he cheated on you - displays a huge lack of understanding. Not a good start. But you do need to start.

In the end, if you choose to forgive him, make sure it's for the right reason. "I can't waste this 10 years' investment" is not a good reason. "It's my fault he cheated" is not a good reason. "He won't cheat again if I sayang him more" is not a good reason.

And on the other hand, if you choose to dump him, "he cheated on me" is a perfectly good enough reason.
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Well said! rclxms.gif

I would like to say a few things too. A 10-year relationship is insignificant compared to the next 50 years that you have yet to live. And these 50 years are much more important because it's the time you will spend with your husband and the father of your children.

You two have been together for almost 10 years but have not married yet despite your age. Where do you see yourself in this relationship in 5 years from now? Think about it.
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just some questions for TS -

do u truly love him?
can u see a future with him?
do u see him as a husband or daddy type of guy?
or are u merely seeking a companionship (a guy for company but cant see future with him forever)?

once u found answers above, u will know wad to do...
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loyalty and faith is futile in a relationship. he can sexing with other girl during cold war period, seems he don't give a sh!t about the relationship with u.. he should feel so guilty for doing it on the bed you both sleep on. such a$$hole..
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better break. If he can have an affair now, after marriage could still be possible. I know 9 and 10 years is a long period but there are many fishes in the sea. You are only 26 and i bet you could find a good bf that won't cheat on you.
Besides, if he can hate you if you ask him to say it infront of the girl, that already meant that he cares about the girl more than you.

Better end everything before you regret and caught him cheating again and again. Don't let it be another Alvin & Yuki case.

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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Break up with him, it's not worth to be wif such a dishonest and irresponsible man.
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find new 1 ... dump him ...no use la setia pada lelaki xguna cm tuh
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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This is unacceptable babe. This is an affair. Nevertheless, depending on how you cherish your bf that if your love surpasses such thing and how strong you guys were. Nevertheless, he brought the girl to your bedroom is already trying to be mischief ..plus he went to had sex with her. That is unacceptable. Bullshit if he say he can't control. Temptations are everywhere. Such a lousy man.


Girl, buck up and find a better one. You need to be respected. I don't think your request is too over. It is to make things clear. This is call security.
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I actually read all 8 pages! blink.gif So here's my 2 cents now...

TS, I'm just wondering... really out of curiosity, which no one has really pointed out here other than munkeyflo... How many times have you actually met your bf's parents in these 9 years? Do you know how to contact them? If yes, I suggest that you go and contact them, speak to them yourself, instead of listening to whatever your bf said to you about what he claimed his parents have said. To be honest, something just does not gel here, can't you/anyone see this? I just sense something fishy... You said that his parents were okay with you when you visited them, yet they disapprove of their son (your bf) being with you, or even marrying you? Did you ever find out what's the real reason(s) behind this matter? I just find it really strange. Maybe this does not seem like a big issue here... But really, after so many years together, they still can't accept you? If they really disapprove of you, I think your bf would have either fought hard for the relationship, or you would have just broken up long time ago, especially since most guys would just submit into their parents' wishes. My friend's bf's parents also disapprove of her for the first 3-4 years, but after that, they slowly accepted her and now, she and her bf are getting married this year. It's either your bf has been making up the whole thing about what his parents said, or... it's just an unbelievable thing how the parents have disapproved of you, yet you have been together for so many years (unless it's an "underground" relationship, but it can't be, as you've said that he has told you about what his parents said)... hmm.gif

Now, back to the whole main point about his affair. One thing you should know is that everyone, man or woman alike, has their own desires and lust. I'm not being a sexist here, but it is a known fact that most men have cheated or will probably cheat on their partner at least once (I mentioned MOST men only, okay?)... And there will be temptation everywhere. Perhaps the colleague is the kind of no-shame woman for seducing your bf, but then again, like what some people have mentioned here, your bf was the one who gave in to her seductive ways. Your bf is a grown man, who has his own urges and needs. He could tell you whatever lies he wants, but most men can hardly keep it in their pants whenever they feel horny or see someone seductive around them. Maybe he did mean that only you can turn him on so much because he loves you, but then again, if he feels it, he can just get it on anytime anywhere, and possibly with anyone. There is a difference though, as casual sex between two mere sex partners will never equal up to passionate/real lovemaking between two people who are in a relationship. He tried to get into action with you after the affair, before telling you, has nothing to do with whether you are still hot or not to him, it's just simply because he has the urge to do it (no offence, but this is really true, though I believe that you are a beautiful woman).

He told you about what happened, you gotta at least give him props for that, if he really wanted to saviour the relationship and have an honest and open communication with you. Yet, he actually had the balls to ask you for break-up, with the lame excuse of not wanting to hurt you... I don't know, but I feel that deep inside, you already have the answer you need, or else, you wouldn't really post here for extra opinions anymore. I'm a woman too (same age with you), and I for one, rely strongly on my instincts. Female intuition can be pretty (scarily) accurate I tell you. Another example of my friend's experience. She was devastated when her long-term bf told her that he had a fling with his college mate. She asked me if she should just let go or accept him back. I told her to just bear in mind that there is a consequence to whichever decision she makes. If she can't accept the betrayal, then she's gotta let go of him and be sad till time heals her wound. Or else, if she really still loves him very deeply, and since he has admitted his mistake and asked for her forgiveness, she should just save the relationship. Which, she did. She forgave him and guess what? He did it again, with the same girl, but he still admitted to her, because he had really realised his mistake and promised not to do it again. At that moment, I felt so bad for telling her to accept him back, but after a long talk, we evaluated her feelings and decided that she still loves him very deeply so she forgave him once more and took him back. However, I told her to make that decision only if she could bear with the possibility of being hurt for the third time, as I feel that the guy has made my friend the "Queen", and the girl is just a "Concubine", that no matter what, the guy will still go back to my friend after each mistake. So what happened after that? He stopped hurting her, but really cherished their relationship, be a good bf and provider, and they are getting married soon. So, now, in your case, it's totally up to you. But of course, just keep in mind that "every action will have a reaction".

If he had wanted to marry you, he would have done anything he could to make it happen, instead of using his parents as another lame excuse. I think he's finally showing his true colours... He's probably losing interest in the relationship. Haven't you heard of the 7-year itch? You should be happy that yours has surpassed way longer than that mark. I know how you probably feel about losing the one person you have spent a big chunk of your life with, but you really can't and shouldn't let the duration of time blind/cloud your judgement of the right action. If he has really lost interest in this relationship, most probably he will just do something to hurt you again, in hopes that you will leave him first (so that he wouldn't feel so bad), or you are both gonna live in a partnership-relationship (maybe no feelings from either/both sides already, but still stick with each other after spending such a long time together). Don't let it be a one-sided thing, as you say you still love him very much, but once the relationship has run its course, there is really no use of trying to keep it. Either you find ways to spice things up, add the spark back and make your relationship alive again, or you may end up being the "Queen" but you will possibly be living in a denial, as your "King" goes to his "Concubine(s)" each time. It's not that I watch too much drama, but really, in reality, the sad truth is, there are women suffering in silence and choose to turn a blind eye to their cheating husband/partner all because they are too afraid to lose him. But then again, I still believe in long-term commitments. I have friends who have been with their partners for over 12 years, and still counting. The secret of their successful relationship? They give and take, forgive and forget. If you think you can stomach what he's done, then by all means, keep pursuing this relationship. Have a real heart-to-heart talk with him. Sort out your future together. Or else, it's time to move on already, and it won't be an easy road ahead, yet you're gonna make it because you are strong enough...

Perhaps you can just look at Kristen Stewart and Rob Pattinson... He still got back with her after her widely-publicised affair. Sometimes, you get back with that same person again despite what they have done because to you, only that one person can understand you best. Btw, no matter what the circumstances are, do not go and find fault with the girl your bf slept with. Always be the better person. It hurts, yes, but why stoop to her level? Right?

Sorry if this is too much for you, but at least please appreciate the time taken to type this whole wall of text for you to share my thoughts with you. Like you, I long for a loyal partner and long-lasting relationship too. I hereby sincerely wish you all the best! If you still need someone to talk to, you can PM me. I'm currently jobless, so I don't mind chatting with you. We can just have a girl talk or whatever you know? They say it's nicer to talk to strangers sometimes... Take care babe. Hope you'll get the happy ending you truly deserve! wink.gif
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While I commend you on the effort you took to write all that, I think there are a lot of things about men and how they think that - and all women - ought to know.

What you said about "Queens" and "Concubines" is basically the Madonna/Whore complex. Google it; it's a real thing. It means that a lot of men are simply not satisfied with one woman in their lives, and they need at least two. One to keep at home, one to have fun with outside. I think you're under the impression that if a man cheats on his partner, he is in danger of leaving his partner for the other woman. But in my experience, this is not the case. He will never leave his partner, because even he's not so stupid to leave the happy home that they've built together. Especially if he's married; he's not going to go through life as a divorcee and all the social stigma that comes with it. But he's not going to give up the other woman either. He's going to keep them both, and he will do everything in his power to have them both.

Which brings us to one crucial difference between men and women that I've learned. To most women, marriage = "I HAVE WON IN LIFE." To most men, marriage = "OMG MY LIFE IS OVER." Women think that being married, being a wife, being a mother and all the respectability that comes with it, is the most important thing in the world and one they could never stand to lose. But notice I didn't say anything about the men they are married to. They love being married more - a lot more - than they actually love their husbands.

Which would be foolish enough on its own, if it weren't for one additional thing - their husbands don't feel the same way. While she's planning the wedding and the table seatings and the decorations and having the time of her life, he's thinking about his last whoring trip to Bangkok and wondering how his life went from there to here. This is what fuels the Madonna/Whore complex. On one level, they know that their status and husband and father is extremely important. But on another level, they still think they're 21 and every pu55y in the world can be theirs. And they will want to have it all.

I know lots of couples like this. And sure, in front of me and the world they seem happy. The wives especially, they're in their element, chattering about facials and preschools and recipes like the perfect non-desperate housewife. But I also know for sure that there'll be nights when they're lying in bed alone, knowing for certain that their man is fcuking another woman at that very moment. I cannot imagine how they feel at times like that.

That's the kind of life I've seen many many couples lead. And if you think you can handle it, all well and fine for you. But it doesn't have to be the only life you'll lead. You don't have to be this kind of woman, who stays married at the cost of her self-respect. And you don't have to pick this kind of man who treats marriage as a prison. You have a choice.

And if you forgive a cheater too easily, then you are making a choice - you are choosing to live that kind of life. Again, I'm not saying that infidelity is never forgivable. But it must be for the right reasons. "I'll lose him if I don't forgive him" is not a good reason. Men only cheat because they can. Because they know they'll get away with it. Because they know it'll cost them nothing. If you, as his partner, let him get away with it at no cost and no disadvantage to himself, he will do it over and over again.

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QUOTE(n00b13 @ Jan 3 2013, 09:06 AM)
And if you forgive a cheater too easily, then you are making a choice - you are choosing to live that kind of life. Again, I'm not saying that infidelity is never forgivable. But it must be for the right reasons. "I'll lose him if I don't forgive him" is not a good reason. Men only cheat because they can. Because they know they'll get away with it. Because they know it'll cost them nothing. If you, as his partner, let him get away with it at no cost and no disadvantage to himself, he will do it over and over again.
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I think you left this out.
He will do it again and again regardless if his partner is NOTHING. There is no cost and no disadvantage to begin with.

This case resembles it. He is not caught. He is not even trying to hide. He admitted that he cheated, he explicits says that "All I'm gonna do is say sorry and you go fly kite if you want anything more".
And yes! She has a card to play and a choice to make. It's called "take it or leave it".

I have every reason to believe that a relationship has been one way traffic for quite sometime to find themselves in such situation.
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You love him but do you trust him>
The condition request by you is more as too 'feel' good or self console.
If you trust him go ahead, if you don't better cut off earlier.

Another thing is whether the issue will repeated or not? This one I can't comment much, if you trust him you can give him another chance if not then just let it go.

If you feel you can't loose him but dun have confident on him, then let it go also. No point.

Repeated case, straight leave him no U turn.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 10:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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How old are you? If you are 24 to 27, you can break up with him and go out with me.
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TS, you have got lots of good analysis and advises from our fellow members here. Well, after reading everyone's sight.. something struck my mind.

TS has dated this bf for 10years and we know they started at very young age where marriage was never a topic. And now she is 26/27 where every normal girl will start asking about wedding plan. And TS said her bf's parents was ok-ed with her all along until recent year .. of a sudden they disagreed her. And the bf now even dare to confess about the affair even knowing it may cause a breakup.

TS, I strongly agree with a member here.. you should call up his parents.. sending regards and try to chat things out. By discussion or communication with his parents, you can sense whether they like you or not.
I maybe wrong, but I do suspect the bf is making this out as he may not want to settle down with TS. And he may wanted a break up but dumping a 10yrs gf will be tough..coz somehow he have to answer to his parents (if he parents actually accepted TS.... but the bf have been telling lies). If TS to dump the bf first, he will say TS giving him up or stuff.. so that he don't feel bad at all. And that make sense why he confess his affair to TS. I mayb wrong, but I do know.. guys have one saying "If saying it out will trigger more trouble, may as well keep quiet".

TS, no matter what decision you make, you will need to be tough and get it through. Following a few possibility:

1) He lies about his parents disagree you + his disloyal to you
--- no matter how much you love him... is not worth to hang on. As he doesn't love you anymore. It just the 10yrs that tight him up.
2) If his parents disagree you + his disloyal (the exact situation you thought)
--- either you take it and be prepare to face any future challenges or you just leave him for good.. coz life will be tough as you do not get support from his parents and you will forever at doubt whether he has the true heart for you.

But if all you want is to retain the relationship (assume you want him so much) and by all mean make him do something to show that he is sincerely seeking forgiveness. I think you shall take a bet... tell him to settle his parents and marry you. If he is telling you that is impossible, you must let go.. he is wasting your time. Marrying a 10yr gf is logic.. but even after he did something so wrong.. yet still reject to marry and provide security to the gf. You shall see his real character already.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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u wanna prove dominance over your bf, as u lost him to another woman and now u wan him to tell the other girl :"hey i own him, hahahah."

and from the way u tell your problem, is all about you, nothing about him on why he cheated

why do he need to cheat by the way?
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QUOTE(zoldane @ Jan 3 2013, 10:32 AM)
u wanna prove dominance over your bf, as u lost him to another woman and now u wan him to tell the other girl :"hey i own him, hahahah."

and from the way u tell your problem, is all about you, nothing about him on why he cheated

why do he need to cheat by the way?
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I never tat has to be a reason to cheat on somebody ok? Cheated is cheated..any reason?He surely can talk to me, but not telling me by cheated on me..I think u r the same type as him...
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If you have a big heart that can accept and forgive, please do.

But I would like to say,
Once is one too many.

You know him the best.
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But TS, to added to my earlier suggestion. Even take the bet to get him marry you.. you still have to make sure it worth the try.
Well, we won't know what happen in future.. all marriage should be built with the strong love bond.. but even that.. ppl do divorce. Basically marriage itself is a bet for everyone.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 3 2013, 10:52 AM)
lolz...u r funny..tats not reasons to cheat on somebody...i hate being cheated..i hate someone to say need reason to cheat..
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So have you found out how many times he had sex with the girl before this?
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So have you found out how many times he had sex with the girl before this?
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dun wan to talk abt tat gal anymore..tat isnt the main problem here...
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Like I said, if he only had sex, then he didn't really cheat on you lah, he's just horny. Just take it as he promised to quit smoking but inhaled a fag behind your back. It's just sex.

If you keep want to say he cheat on you, then break up lor. You also don't know why you stay in the relationship, you don't know what is the main problem also. And you said he is the one who want to break up now.
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How old are you? If you are 24 to 27, you can break up with him and go out with me.
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lolz...how can i simply go out with someone??
Some guys just can't hide their desperation. laugh.gif

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Well I don't think he will be honest with you since he already have another girl who can make him happy.....

Just ask him whether he is ready to marry you or not.....if he said no, then no point having relationship with him again.
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it has nothing to do with the other gal...afterall, it's your bf who wants to have sex witih her also...



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7chai...im jaga-ing his face tats y I ask him to go talk to her...If i go n find tat gal myself...the gal n my bf face will gone to hell...
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Get over him la. Whats the point troubling yourself with a guy who do not loyal to you. If he truly loves you, your request will be granted without hesitation.

and he will even hate you for forcing him? helo, hes the one making mistake and being irresponsible and telling you that he'll hate you?

Leave him ba. No offence. but i thk your bf really stupid and irresponsible boy.. yes i use boy because i thk hes immature.

My advice, leave him before he seek another gal and asking for your forgiveness again. how many time u can forgive?

Leave him, theres plenty good guy out there. Not worth your time ler
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I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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Sure can live happily. Just give yourself some time to cool down. Don't go for rebound relationship.

This is bound to be tough on you for the next few days/weeks/months.

Get more support from family too.

I wonder if Moselle will PM you? hmm.gif

Have a happy new year!







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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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Sure can live happily. Just give yourself some time to cool down. Don't go for rebound relationship.

This is bound to be tough on you for the next few days/weeks/months.

Get more support from family too.

I wonder if Moselle will PM you?  hmm.gif

Have a happy new year!
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

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Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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Dear TS,

The choices are simple. If you want to continue being with him you must be able to forgive him and never speak of this incident ever again even though you will never be able to forget it. If you can't do it then you can't be with him anymore.

Also, just my 2 cents, I think it's fishy that he hangs out with this girl and agrees to bring her to the apartment just for "sightseeing' or "kl viewing". There are many places that can be done outside of the apartment. Also, what reason is there that they go into the bedroom. Plus he obviously didn't mistake this girl for you. I think he is tempted in his heart to have sex with this girl before they ever did it. So it is not an 'accident'.

As for the reason he refuse to do as you request is because the sex was voluntary on both sides and he doesn't want the girl to suffer for his decision. Or he wants to keep this girl on the side as a spare.

He has done something wrong and it is not unheard of that girlfriends will ask the cheating boyfriends to cut of relations with the other woman in exchange for forgiveness. If he is serious in begging for your forgiveness, he will realize that he cannot hate you for wanting this, because it is his fault that this must happen.

So, if I were you, I will breakup with him. Not often that the guy who cheat won't cheat again. Plus his attitude doesn't suggest he will do anything to gain ur trust and forgiveness back. He just expect you to forgive him without him doing anything. Even if it is 10 years, you deserve better girl. Nobody can bear to share the person they love with other people this way. Find someone who feels having you is more than enough.
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Dear TS,

The choices are simple. If you want to continue being with him you must be able to forgive him and never speak of this incident ever again even though you will never be able to forget it. If you can't do it then you can't be with him anymore.

Also, just my 2 cents, I think it's fishy that he hangs out with this girl and agrees to bring her to the apartment just for "sightseeing' or "kl viewing". There are many places that can be done outside of the apartment. Also, what reason is there that they go into the bedroom. Plus he obviously didn't mistake this girl for you. I think he is tempted in his heart to have sex with this girl before they ever did it. So it is not an 'accident'.

As for the reason he refuse to do as you request is because the sex was voluntary on both sides and he doesn't want the girl to suffer for his decision. Or he wants to keep this girl on the side as a spare.

He has done something wrong and it is not unheard of that girlfriends will ask the cheating boyfriends to cut of relations with the other woman in exchange for forgiveness. If he is serious in begging for your forgiveness, he will realize that he cannot hate you for wanting this, because it is his fault that this must happen.

So, if I were you, I will breakup with him. Not often that the guy who cheat won't cheat again. Plus his attitude doesn't suggest he will do anything to gain ur trust and forgiveness back. He just expect you to forgive him without him doing anything. Even if it is 10 years, you deserve better girl. Nobody can bear to share the person they love with other people this way. Find someone who feels having you is more than enough.
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it is either u still can accept or not for you. even if u forgive him this time. the pain will still stabing in ur heart in future. if in future got some little arguement, u also will bring this topic out and become both of you hate each other. I would say, it is better be end in this relationship and become friends. like every ppl say, more friend better than more enemy. good luck
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can you do us a favor by post your picture and the girl picture... from there we can know your bf feeling and help you.. thank you in advance.
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wat is the purpose?i dun think pic can judge anything...r u trying to tell me the gal might prettier than me?
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wat is the purpose?i dun think pic can judge anything...r u trying to tell me the gal might prettier than me?
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i know it is settle and i didn't read all the pages.. i want to ask why he confess he is cheating on the first place?
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i know it is settle and i didn't read all the pages.. i want to ask why he confess he is cheating on the first place?
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u can ask him lol...myb he wan a break up as others saying...n he dun wan the 'break up' come out from his mouth..
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I also feels he wants to break up
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So hard to alone..my heart pain until i cant sleep. I tot i can get through this, now only i know i was wrong..

Breaking up with him is like took my breath away..I cant breath now, cant sleep now, cant think now, cant eat now...cant stop thinking of him...

Feel like wanna cut my head off..
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So hard to alone..my heart pain until i cant sleep. I tot i can get through this, now only i know i was wrong..

Breaking up with him is like took my breath away..I cant breath now, cant sleep now, cant think now, cant eat now...cant stop thinking of him...

Feel like wanna cut my head off..
By this time next year, you will completely forget this feeling.

You just have to make it through the year.


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By this time next year, you will completely forget this feeling.

You just have to make it through the year.
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Dear TS, the next question to ask is whether you have any joint Loans, Accounts, Properties.

Please settle these ASAP
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 4 2013, 09:00 AM)
So hard to alone..my heart pain until i cant sleep. I tot i can get through this, now only i know i was wrong..

Breaking up with him is like took my breath away..I cant breath now, cant sleep now, cant think now, cant eat now...cant stop thinking of him...

Feel like wanna cut my head off..
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 4 2013, 09:00 AM)
So hard to alone..my heart pain until i cant sleep. I tot i can get through this, now only i know i was wrong..

Breaking up with him is like took my breath away..I cant breath now, cant sleep now, cant think now, cant eat now...cant stop thinking of him...

Feel like wanna cut my head off..
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Yes, break up is painful.. especially when you recall that you have been so closed to each other, used to do all the lovely thing together... and in a sudden both of you become stranger again. This is the ugly truth of being human.. we can cuddle and kiss like mad when we in love but once that change.. whatever we have done before for each other become meaningless. When I was young and broke up with my ex... this question always pops up in my mind "Why we used to be so lovely and why we have to change the status now?".. crying all the way. But time do heal the broken heart especially when you found your new focus (mayb a new guy, a new hobby, or career focus).
And when you overcome all this, you will find.. this 1 time breakup pain is nothing compare the long-term stress in a relationship. Imagine the freedom you gain compare being in a painful relationship.. there stress from partner, from both family, etc.

TS, you are consider very lucky.. although invested 10yrs.. but in relationship.. if it cannot be maintain.. even 30yrs doesn't mean anything. At least you are not married to him yet. Imagine those ppl married for so many years, with school kids at home.. and yet their spouse giving up on their marriage. Your pain is just minor .. coz you are single and 26yrs is still young to have an enjoyable and beautiful life ahead.

Fyi, my sister had just divorce with her husband few mths ago. She dated him for 9years then married for 5yrs. Her ex-hubby found someone new (a bar girl or something) and wanted to divorce my sister eventhough my sis begged him. To cut the pain short, my parents make the decision and force my sis to divorce. She is in healing process now.. though we know she is painful.. but frens around giving her lots of encouragement. Luckily she don't have kids.. although already 35yrs old.. still not too late. She nows have lots of programme.. almost daily have after work activities with frens.. live her own life .. seem to be better than daily went home after work.. waiting for the spouse to come home..and dull.

You will get over it. Your ex-bf is nothing to you in no time.
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Yes, break up is painful.. especially when you recall that you have been so closed to each other, used to do all the lovely thing together... and in a sudden both of you become stranger again. This is the ugly truth of being human.. we can cuddle and kiss like mad when we in love but once that change.. whatever we have done before for each other become meaningless. When I was young and broke up with my ex... this question always pops up in my mind "Why we used to be so lovely and why we have to change the status now?".. crying all the way. But time do heal the broken heart especially when you found your new focus (mayb a new guy, a new hobby, or career focus).
And when you overcome all this, you will find.. this 1 time breakup pain is nothing compare the long-term stress in a relationship. Imagine the freedom you gain compare being in a painful relationship.. there stress from partner, from both family, etc.

TS, you are consider very lucky.. although invested 10yrs.. but in relationship.. if it cannot be maintain.. even 30yrs doesn't mean anything. At least you are not married to him yet. Imagine those ppl married for so many years, with school kids at home.. and yet their spouse giving up on their marriage. Your pain is just minor .. coz you are single and 26yrs is still young to have an enjoyable and beautiful life ahead.

Fyi, my sister had just divorce with her husband few mths ago. She dated him for 9years then married for 5yrs. Her ex-hubby found someone new (a bar girl or something) and wanted to divorce my sister eventhough my sis begged him. To cut the pain short, my parents make the decision and force my sis to divorce. She is in healing process now.. though we know she is painful.. but frens around giving her lots of encouragement. Luckily she don't have kids.. although already 35yrs old.. still not too late. She nows have lots of programme.. almost daily have after work activities with frens.. live her own life .. seem to be better than daily went home after work.. waiting for the spouse to come home..and dull.

You will get over it. Your ex-bf is nothing to you in no time.
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Very well said...This sum up all the encouragement you will need. rclxms.gif

However, we only listen from 1 side of story. I always believe things happen for a reason. Ts, maybe you need to reflect back to find out why? For now it is hard to reflect but eventually it will come to senses. I am not saying your bf is right but something could have triggered the incident.

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Like I said, if he only had sex, then he didn't really cheat on you lah, he's just horny. Just take it as he promised to quit smoking but inhaled a fag behind your back. It's just sex.

If you keep want to say he cheat on you, then break up lor. You also don't know why you stay in the relationship, you don't know what is the main problem also. And you said he is the one who want to break up now.
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Women! here is how to spot a trait of potential cheater!
What determines he is a cheater or not is if he is going to tell you explicitly that your relationship is no different than "it's just sex".

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 3 2013, 11:34 AM)
And some can hide it very well, but they're just equally as desperate.  whistling.gif
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Just not everyone thinks with a d*ck and don't hv the brain to digest the implication of cheating.

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What does handsome or rich has to do with anything.
What will on the other hand is his character.

A responsible man will NEVER make such a grave mistake.
And unfortunately, women digs this kinda men ALL THE TIME.
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Women! here is how to spot a trait of potential cheater!
What determines he is a cheater or not is if he is going to tell you explicitly that your relationship is no different than "it's just sex".

Your inability to compartmentalize shows you are not a man, and you're not qualified to judge what is "responsible man" or "better man".

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 4 2013, 01:55 PM)
Just not everyone thinks with a d*ck and don't hv the brain to digest the implication of cheating.
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You mean the same way someone can't digest stealing another person's partner is wrong right? laugh.gif
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Your inability to compartmentalize shows you are not a man, and you're not qualified to judge what is "responsible man" or "better man".
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Well, lucky enough that you are the only one in this forum that is daft enough to say that having sex outside a closed relationship is not cheating.
Any responsible & committed man will NOT cheat. They are MAN of their words. Real man. Don't think you are.

So now what, @sshole like you who has the ability to "compartmentalize" and think with your d*ck makes you the man? shocking.gif
No. That makes you a stray dog on the street.

P.S. I separated them very well in my earlier post. A close relationship is a combination of commitment and sex. What make you a cheater is deceiving the other partner into relationship(commitment & sex) for just sex without the commitment. Unless you stated that at the beginning of the relationship that which renders you not a cheater.

Well, @sshole are @sshole and this @sshole probably is gonna say, "Not explicitly stated or written is not cheating" or "I didn't say it's not a closed relationship when we started".
Typical. yawn.gif

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You mean the same way someone can't digest stealing another person's partner is wrong right? laugh.gif
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No. The ONLY one that is wrong in "stealing" case is the one that LET him/herself stolen. It just matter of this or that spannar.
Technically, if you are not too dumb, you should know yourself that when someone that says "I WANT TO BE STOLEN" renders the other person "stealing" not wrong isn't it?

Oh c'mon, don't flatter yourself believing that you are able to get under those pants without her giving you shit right?

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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 4 2013, 05:34 PM)
Well, lucky enough that you are the only one in this forum that is daft enough to say that having sex outside a closed relationship is not cheating.
Any responsible & committed man will NOT cheat. They are MAN of their words. Real man. Don't think you are.

So now what, @sshole like you who has the ability to "compartmentalize" and think with your d*ck makes you the man?  shocking.gif
No. That makes you a stray dog on the street.

P.S. I separated them very well in my earlier post. A close relationship is a combination of commitment and sex. What make you a cheater is deceiving the other partner into relationship(commitment & sex) for just sex without the commitment. Unless you stated that at the beginning of the relationship that which renders you not a cheater.

Well, @sshole are @sshole and this @sshole probably is gonna say, "Not explicitly stated or written is not cheating" or "I didn't say it's not a closed relationship when we started".
Typical.  yawn.gif
No. The ONLY one that is wrong in "stealing" case is the one that LET him/herself stolen. It just matter of this or that spannar.
Technically, if you are not too dumb, you should know yourself that when someone that says "I WANT TO BE STOLEN" renders the other person "stealing" not wrong isn't it?

Oh c'mon, don't flatter yourself believing that you are able to get under those pants without her giving you shit right?
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Hahah, oh man there goes your crazy rationalization hamster going in overdrive mode again "I want to steal" is not wrong laugh.gif

Cheating is wrong, no doubt about it, never said it is right, but what's done is done, at the end of the day, it's just sex, the relationship doesn't end unless he gets someone pregnant or contract some incurable STD. Emotional cheating on the other hand, can kill the relationship.

Look, if you're incompetent when it comes to understanding such things, just admit it instead of contradicting yourself with your nonsensical arbitrary rules.
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Hahah, oh man there goes your crazy rationalization hamster going in overdrive mode again "I want to steal" is not wrong laugh.gif
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My point is easy. This term "steal" is NOT applicable for relationship which means the above is NONSENSE.
I'm gonna prove your stupidity for one last time.
1) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that's free to begin with. In this sense, she/he decides his or her availability which the other partner has no control over. The ONLY wrong part is he/she shouldn't be available if he/she is already in relationship.
2) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that you can't claim property. In this sense, you don't own him or her.

I'm sure any mentally deficient retard can grasp that.
But you, I'm lost of adjective.

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 4 2013, 09:35 PM)
Cheating is wrong, no doubt about it, never said it is right, but what's done is done, at the end of the day, it's just sex, the relationship doesn't end unless he gets someone pregnant or contract some incurable STD. Emotional cheating on the other hand, can kill the relationship.
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You fail to acknowledge that the cheater KNOWINGLY put the other partner into emotional torture by having sex outside relationship. That intention is nothing less than emotional cheating.

No. Cheating in any form doesn't imply anything to some retards. Especially to some retards when they already have the relationship so "compartmentalized" when all they care about is sex.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 4 2013, 09:35 PM)
Cheating is wrong, no doubt about it, never said it is right, but what's done is done, at the end of the day, it's just sex, the relationship doesn't end unless he gets someone pregnant or contract some incurable STD. Emotional cheating on the other hand, can kill the relationship.
"Cheating is wrong when women/my partner does it, but it's not wrong when men/I do it."

Do you honestly think you're fooling anyone? rolleyes.gif

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"Cheating is wrong when women/my partner does it, but it's not wrong when men/I do it."

Do you honestly think you're fooling anyone?  rolleyes.gif
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Depends on what kind of cheating. If my woman cheated on my sexually I'd be pissed, but I'll get over it eventually as long as she doesn't get preggy or STD. Like what the fudge, she could've just told me she wanted to bang another guy and we could've discussed how to execute it. I've always told all the women I date that they're not the last woman I'm going to have sex with.

If she tells me she loves him however, I'd tell her to take a hike.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

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Gosh... what you and ya bf has been doing for 9 years ???
No plan to get married???

Anyway, an affair is very unacceptable and I guess you and ya bf spark has dim a lot
Since ya bf does not know how to treat you, then what's the point of continue the relationship.... just think for a while, would it be more painful if the incident repeat after marriage???

Btw, care to let us know how old are you?
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 4 2013, 10:31 PM)
My point is easy. This term "steal" is NOT applicable for relationship which means the above is NONSENSE.
I'm gonna prove your stupidity for one last time.
1) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that's free to begin with. In this sense, she/he decides his or her availability which the other partner has no control over. The ONLY wrong part is he/she shouldn't be available if he/she is already in relationship.
2) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that you can't claim property. In this sense, you don't own him or her.

I'm sure any mentally deficient retard can grasp that.
But you, I'm lost of adjective.

Man, I already told you that you are rationalizing (poorly) on the stealing part, yet you plow on with that stupid crazy rationalization hamster.
1) She is SOMEONE's gf/wife, he is SOMEONE's bf/husband, so yes it DOES mean she/he is unavailable ya moron.
2) See (1), it stakes ownership, she/he is not property, but it sure does imply ownership. Go ahead and ask anyone in a relationship and say "do you consider yourself to belong to him/her?"

You can't even get your own points right, which shows you are just spinning the rationalization web out of control, solely for the reason that you don't want to take responsibility for your actions. If anyone fits the bill of a mental retard, it's you. Sucks to be you, ya narcissist laugh.gif

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 4 2013, 10:31 PM)
You fail to acknowledge that the cheater KNOWINGLY put the other partner into emotional torture by having sex outside relationship. That intention is nothing less than emotional cheating.

No. Cheating in any form doesn't imply anything to some retards. Especially to some retards when they already have the relationship so "compartmentalized" when all they care about is sex.
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There you go with stupid rationalization hamster again, simply because you are unable to compartmentalize, you come up with all this crazy lame "reasons". The emotional torture is the revelation of "cheating", not the act itself. There's no "emotional torture" if you don't get caught. Different behaviors warrant different reactions. What... so you get traumatized through psychic powers when your gf fvcks another guy behind your back is it? By that stupid "emotional torture" rationalization, you're pretty much free to justify anything as cheating.

Can't blame you though, you are unable to distinguish right from wrong, you just decide what's right and wrong when it suits you. What a stupid joker.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 5 2013, 08:25 AM)
Man, I already told you that you are rationalizing (poorly) on the stealing part, yet you plow on with that stupid crazy rationalization hamster.
1) She is SOMEONE's gf/wife, he is SOMEONE's bf/husband, so yes it DOES mean she/he is unavailable ya moron.
2) See (1), it stakes ownership, she/he is not property, but it sure does imply ownership. Go ahead and ask anyone in a relationship and say "do you consider yourself to belong to him/her?"
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Now, I tell you why you ARE THE stupid hamster.
referring to 1) If he/she is already unavailable, why the f*ck he/she still layan the other fella. The ONLY wrong here.
and which make the following question a stupid one. 2) Since he/she is already humping someone outside the relationship, why not you ask him/her if she is still consider him/herself belong the the existing partner?

You know the answer. You insist on denying it. You choose to be the ostrich and burrow you brain somewhere. laugh.gif

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 5 2013, 08:25 AM)
You can't even get your own points right, which shows you are just spinning the rationalization web out of control, solely for the reason that you don't want to take responsibility for your actions. If anyone fits the bill of a mental retard, it's you. Sucks to be you, ya narcissist laugh.gif
There you go with stupid rationalization hamster again, simply because you are unable to compartmentalize, you come up with all this crazy lame "reasons". The emotional torture is the revelation of "cheating", not the act itself. There's no "emotional torture" if you don't get caught. Different behaviors warrant different reactions. What... so you get traumatized through psychic powers when your gf fvcks another guy behind your back is it? By that stupid "emotional torture" rationalization, you're pretty much free to justify anything as cheating.

Can't blame you though, you are unable to distinguish right from wrong, you just decide what's right and wrong when it suits you. What a stupid joker.
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If you are suspect of a crime, you got bunch of police on your tail.
If you are a suspect of a cheat, what can she do but feel crap? You know this ostrich.

So this ostrich is gonna say, "I'm innocent until proven guilty. You as my GF obliged to f*ck me until i'm proven cheating".

You are just lame. yawn.gif

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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"If I force him to do it, he will hate me...."

Conditional love laaaa. Simple as that.

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lolz...how can i simply go out with someone??
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I am cassanova Alvin

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Undeniable , the heart sure pains like hell.

And I bet a lot will tell you life goes on.
Unfortunately, life goes on.
There might be time you feel like you can't go on.
Always find someone to talk to / something to do that add values to yourself when you feel like it.

Song from Pink

Where there is desire, there is gonna be flame,
Where there is flame, someone's bound to get burned
But just because it burns, doesn't mean you are gonna die
You gotta get up & try & try & try.

Gambateh TS - I'm going through something similar.
Take the new year as a stepping stone to motivate yourself.
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I am not someone

I am cassanova Alvin

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I saw alot of ppl tell me tats plenty good guy out there le..i dun think i spotted one or two around me..lolz

So, for update...we are officially break lo. Yup, I'm single now! There's no point I still crawling(I really think I'm crawling...lol) here as he didnt love me anymore.

After so many years, he left me with no return back. So, guys wish me luck..hope I will live happily after this?haha....very funny..
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 5 2013, 12:50 PM)
Now, I tell you why you ARE THE stupid hamster.
referring to 1) If he/she is already unavailable, why the f*ck he/she still layan the other fella. The ONLY wrong here.
and which make the following question a stupid one. 2) Since he/she is already humping someone outside the relationship, why not you ask him/her if she is still consider him/herself belong the the existing partner?

You know the answer. You insist on denying it. You choose to be the ostrich and burrow you brain somewhere.  laugh.gif

There's that projection problem of yours again.

Your rationalization hamster is hard at work, turning a linear event into circular chicken-or-the-egg logic laugh.gif

1) Regardless of whether she layan the other fella or not, the other fella still made the morally (and sometimes legally) wrong decision to steal
2) She might if she can still get benefits, doesn't make your point any stronger nor my point any weaker.

Look, your comebacks are downright illogical, fallacious and more often than not, stupid. Take your rationalization hamster to the backyard and shoot it already.

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 5 2013, 12:50 PM)
If you are suspect of a crime, you got bunch of police on your tail.
If you are a suspect of a cheat, what can she do but feel crap? You know this ostrich.

So this ostrich is gonna say, "I'm innocent until proven guilty. You as my GF obliged to f*ck me until i'm proven cheating".

You are just lame.  yawn.gif
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Ok who's shifting the goalpost here now? I thought someone wanted to bring up "emotional torture". Does the act of cheating itself results in emotional torture? Address it, knave.
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There's that projection problem of yours again.

Your rationalization hamster is hard at work, turning a linear event into circular chicken-or-the-egg logic laugh.gif

1) Regardless of whether she layan the other fella or not, the other fella still made the morally (and sometimes legally) wrong decision to steal
2) She might if she can still get benefits, doesn't make your point any stronger nor my point any weaker.

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There is no moral obligation on the other fellas part. How is that morally wrong?
She on the other has that moral obligation not to layan.

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 01:07 AM)
Look, your comebacks are downright illogical, fallacious and more often than not, stupid. Take your rationalization hamster to the backyard and shoot it already.
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This is entertaining. laugh.gif

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 01:07 AM)
Ok who's shifting the goalpost here now? I thought someone wanted to bring up "emotional torture". Does the act of cheating itself results in emotional torture? Address it, knave.
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Literally and technically, you are both right. nod.gif

So you are saying that as long as a con victim doesn't know that he/she is conned makes the conman not a conman/guilty.
And the con victim should reward a conman for admitting his con? hmm.gif laugh.gif

I kinda like this ostrich logic. nod.gif

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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 6 2013, 01:23 AM)
There is no moral obligation on the other fellas part. How is that morally wrong?
She on the other has that moral obligation not to layan.

He has the moral obligation of respecting the hard work others have put into their relationships, as well as those boundaries henceforth. Already said that a gazillion times.

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 6 2013, 01:23 AM)
Literally and technically, you are both right. nod.gif

So you are saying that as long as a con victim doesn't know that he/she is conned makes the conman not a conman/guilty.
And the con victim should reward a conman for admitting his con?  hmm.gif laugh.gif

I kinda like this ostrich logic.  nod.gif
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I never said cheating is right, I said it's wrong, but if the cheating is purely sexual, it's not such a big deal, because ultimately the attachment and loyalty is to the partner.

But you decided to say say the cheater is inflicting emotional torture by cheating, which is not so, the emotional torture comes from the revelation of cheating. If she remains ignorant, and he remains STD free and his treatment to her remains the same, nothing changes.

Is it really that difficult for you to understand? It's just facts, I'm just laying it out for you, I'm not trying to convince you of anything other than your belief is wrong.

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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 01:31 AM)
He has the moral obligation of respecting the hard work others have put into their relationships, as well as those boundaries henceforth. Already said that a gazillion times.
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Likewise mentioned gazillion times. Boundaries are just limited for those in the relationship. If he/she respect that boundaries, a 3rd party will have NO play at all. Cannot do anything but to give up. Comprehendes?

Do you f*cking think that the woman involved in TS relationship can actually get onto her bed without that @sshole opening that door. You seriously think that she can? She might be just a woman that wants sex like you do. Doesn't give a damm what happens to TS relationship. No moral obligation on her part nor any moral obligation like how you run your relationship.

But on the other hand, if that @sshole BF respect these boundaries and TS hard work; he would hv just turn her down and send her home. Which is ultimately the ONLY wrong here.

Go on with your ostrich reason. Say it's not. Very entertaining. laugh.gif

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 01:31 AM)
I never said cheating is right, I said it's wrong, but if the cheating is purely sexual, it's not such a big deal, because ultimately the attachment and loyalty is to the partner.
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This is exactly the wrong belief that gives men the bad name and should avoided.
THE belief that as long as "ultimately the attachment and loyalty is to the partner". You f*ck any girl that comes along, the partner should reward you for being honest, and also because you are in the relationship STILL. You only an @sshole when you leave.

Terrible belief. You are an @sshole the moment you turn against your words. The part when you lied about agreeing on closed relationship (unless stated otherwise). The part when you wasn't true to your words nor yourself when you started the relationship. That's already unfaithful to begin with. Its not about STD, it's not about getting someone else pregnant.

Question that follow from your "fact" would be, can someone live with an unfaithful partner?

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get over it...

he want both of you, seriously.
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get over it...

he want both of you, seriously.
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yeah, he just prolly wants the best of both worlds...
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Make it hard for him, if you forgive him that easily, chances are he'll repeat doing it because to him you're too "easy"

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He's lying and there's no "colleague" it's just an excuse to tell you that he is sexually deprive and well... he overdid it

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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 4 2013, 02:02 PM)
What does handsome or rich has to do with anything.
What will on the other hand is his character.

A responsible man will NEVER make such a grave mistake.
And unfortunately, women digs this kinda men ALL THE TIME.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 2 2013, 09:07 AM)
Hi all,

Me n my bf has been together for 9 years, coming 10 years. During our dating, we do have some arguments, but we manage to get back together after 1 or 2 days. Last week, we have a 3 days 'cold war' period. And yesterday he told me he has an affair with his colleague. How's that happen? He went for a drink with this girl, and the girl wanna see the kl view from my bf apartment. There's end up they sex on our bed...YA!!!IS ME and MY BF BED!!!

I said he has changed...n he told he will change it back to my old bf, he is asking me for forgiveness. I told him in 1 condition, I need him to say it clear in front of me n that girl. <------ May I know is this request over? He told he can't do it...n the reason? If I force him to do it, he will hate me.

Guys and girls,
Can anyone tell me what shd I do to comfort myself? I'm totally lost.....

Thanks.
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it is very obvious he don't want to tell the girl to go back friendzone.
maybe got return feeling

well i guess much more better you leave him before you are pregnant with his baby and seeing him still have unsettle business with that girl



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I think I'll just slap the bf and then proceed punch the hell out of the girl. I'm violent like that.

I can't see the point of staying together anymore.
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 6 2013, 05:25 PM)
Likewise mentioned gazillion times. Boundaries are just limited for those in the relationship. If he/she respect that boundaries, a 3rd party will have NO play at all. Cannot do anything but to give up. Comprehendes?

Do you f*cking think that the woman involved in TS relationship can actually get onto her bed without that @sshole opening that door. You seriously think that she can? She might be just a woman that wants sex like you do. Doesn't give a damm what happens to TS relationship. No moral obligation on her part nor any moral obligation like how you run your relationship.

But on the other hand, if that @sshole BF respect these boundaries and TS hard work; he would hv just turn her down and send her home. Which is ultimately the ONLY wrong here.

Go on with your ostrich reason. Say it's not. Very entertaining. laugh.gif

Stupid circular reasoning again, chicken and egg crap.

If a bolt on a screw isn't tight, it will eventually fall out after a lot of rumble and tumble, regardless of whether a spanner exist. If a spanner comes along, the bolt then comes undone from the screw. Even if it isn't undone, it will not be as tight as before, and it is the fault of the spanner isn't it?

Don't keep putting up crap like "oh the bolt should change size to avoid the spanner" Bottomline is you suck at understanding linear logic, and your narcissistic ego is constantly trying to warp it such that there is no fault on you.

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 6 2013, 05:25 PM)
This is exactly the wrong belief that gives men the bad name and should avoided.
THE belief that as long as "ultimately the attachment and loyalty is to the partner". You f*ck any girl that comes along, the partner should reward you for being honest, and also because you are in the relationship STILL. You only an @sshole when you leave.

Terrible belief. You are an @sshole the moment you turn against your words. The part when you lied about agreeing on closed relationship (unless stated otherwise). The part when you wasn't true to your words nor yourself when you started the relationship. That's already unfaithful to begin with. Its not about STD, it's not about getting someone else pregnant.

Question that follow from your "fact" would be, can someone live with an unfaithful partner?
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Extrapolation fallacy. The partner who got sexually cheated on is free to end the relationship. If the partner doesn't want to end it, then learn how to deal with it.

Imagine this, a woman f*cks another man, no emotional attachment whatsoever, comes back confesses, and the guy says "That's a bad thing you did, but as long as you're loyal and honest about it, I'll let it slide" so she stays. WOW guess what? The guy now fits the bill of the "betterman" in your ridiculous stealing scenario, you just shot yourself in the foot.

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QUOTE(alexng2208 @ Jan 2 2013, 09:20 AM)
10 years and still bf?

get over him, there are other men out there who would give an arm and a leg for you and will not cheat on you, just don't friendzone them smile.gif

cheer up, bf-gf things are not the end of the world. treasure your family, stay close to them, and then consult them.

i am not saying you should not give him a chance, if he is worth it, why not
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Go to JPN register your marriage, pay about RM 20 only.
Forget about those wedding photo, wedding dinner is the other thing.
You can do it later. If he argument is cost to setup wedding dinner then now he got no more excuse.
if he say -- wait, then ask him: when would you like to marry?
if he still say --- wait, then ask him: this valentine day or chinese new year?
if he still say ---wait, time to let go.
You are not young, 10 years wasting with him is enough.



2. You don't have to force him to say that in front of the "3rd party".
If you forgive him, then forgive.
Also, don't remind him about this incident after this. He will really angry with you. (although he is wrong at first)



3. Remind him how beautiful it is when you and him first dating. That means 10 years ago... 2002 or 2003...wow


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Hey hey...can u 2 (s2peMocls & RUI) stop arguing in my topic ar?LOL...n honestly didnt really understand wat u 2 trying to say (my english is bad)...

After an weekend on genting (after the funny talkshow)..is getting better la..thank you all of the advises...n opinion..

Think in another way..now i no need curi-curi to look for handsome boy lo...straightly my fb profile pic changed to my handsome idol pic...

Get over it...get over it...finally can get over it...but haiz...actually he is the one pity..lol for some reason i think he is pathetic...i wont say i will deserve better but i would im a tough gal...YEAH!!
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 09:26 AM)
Hey hey...can u 2 (s2peMocls & RUI) stop arguing in my topic ar?LOL...n honestly didnt really understand wat u 2 trying to say (my english is bad)...

After an weekend on genting (after the funny talkshow)..is getting better la..thank you all of the advises...n opinion..

Think in another way..now i no need curi-curi to look for handsome boy lo...straightly my fb profile pic changed to my handsome idol pic...

Get over it...get over it...finally can get over it...but haiz...actually he is the one pity..lol for some reason i think he is pathetic...i wont say i will deserve better but i would im a tough gal...YEAH!!
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Not all guys are bad. Wish you happiness in life, you sure can find it!~~

Be tough and never give up no matter how hard life challenge ahead.
Stay strong, keep improving and learning.
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I am not someone

I am cassanova Alvin

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QUOTE(Ketchum @ Jan 7 2013, 09:40 AM)
Never give up. If one rot fish in the sea only... There are many other handsome fishes for you to find.
Not all guys are bad. Wish you happiness in life, you sure can find it!~~

Be tough and never give up no matter how hard life challenge ahead.
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wahaha...handsome fishes...so exciting to heard about handsome lo...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 09:26 AM)
Hey hey...can u 2 (s2peMocls & RUI) stop arguing in my topic ar?LOL...n honestly didnt really understand wat u 2 trying to say (my english is bad)...

After an weekend on genting (after the funny talkshow)..is getting better la..thank you all of the advises...n opinion..

Think in another way..now i no need curi-curi to look for handsome boy lo...straightly my fb profile pic changed to my handsome idol pic...

Get over it...get over it...finally can get over it...but haiz...actually he is the one pity..lol for some reason i think he is pathetic...i wont say i will deserve better but i would im a tough gal...YEAH!!
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wariaooehh...u go dayo wong talk show never invite me tongue.gif
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wahaha...handsome fishes...so exciting to heard about handsome lo...
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The important thing is the person heart. No matter how good the temptation, he or she should be able to stay away.

1) Do not want misunderstanding? Do not create situation where misunderstanding can happen.

2) Do not want bed action happen? Do not alone with another person.

And there are many more. Prevention is better than cure
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 7 2013, 09:45 AM)
wariaooehh...u go dayo wong talk show never invite me  tongue.gif
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How i know u ar? I got post in my fb ma..i said i got 1 extra ticket (free de!!!coz he paid one)..but nobody choi me wor...
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How i know u ar? I got post in my fb ma..i said i got 1 extra ticket (free de!!!coz he paid one)..but nobody choi me wor...
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u post in FB cannot geh, must direct PM geh ma laugh.gif
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zzz...u wan me pm my frens all one by one ar?u tot i really so free meh?but the show really nice lo...love him sososo much!! next time if he come..sure i will go again!!
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Enjoy life already. Good Good.

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 09:26 AM)
Hey hey...can u 2 (s2peMocls & RUI) stop arguing in my topic ar?LOL...n honestly didnt really understand wat u 2 trying to say (my english is bad)...

After an weekend on genting (after the funny talkshow)..is getting better la..thank you all of the advises...n opinion..

Think in another way..now i no need curi-curi to look for handsome boy lo...straightly my fb profile pic changed to my handsome idol pic...

Get over it...get over it...finally can get over it...but haiz...actually he is the one pity..lol for some reason i think he is pathetic...i wont say i will deserve better but i would im a tough gal...YEAH!!
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I was at Genting during the weekend too. Didn't see you there also.
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I was at Genting during the weekend too. Didn't see you there also.
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I dun think u know who m i....zzz u go watch the talk show ma?u shd tell me earlier ma...then we can go yam cha..
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 10:38 AM)
I dun think u know who m i....zzz u go watch the talk show ma?u shd tell me earlier ma...then we can go yam cha..
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Didn't go to the talk show, usually I go genting to win money, but last weekend went over there to enjoy scenery. Next time we go again can yumcha in casino. Free, no need pay, lol.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 7 2013, 10:43 AM)
Didn't go to the talk show, usually I go genting to win money, but last weekend went over there to enjoy scenery. Next time we go again can yumcha in casino. Free, no need pay, lol.
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I will block by the guard if i go casino le...my look is so young...lolz..
u so kedekut la...invite a gal go casino yum cha bcoz is free..at least starbuck or coffee bean la..if got a slice of cake much more better...
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I will block by the guard if i go casino le...my look is so young...lolz..
u so kedekut la...invite a gal go casino yum cha bcoz is free..at least starbuck or coffee bean la..if got a slice of cake much more better...
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 10:45 AM)
I will block by the guard if i go casino le...my look is so young...lolz..
u so kedekut la...invite a gal go casino yum cha bcoz is free..at least starbuck or coffee bean la..if got a slice of cake much more better...
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I thought you said somewhere in the post you're 47 or something, sked what guard? Show I.C only la.

Yumcha need to see how much it cost one meh? I thought important thing is the person you yumcha with? Fail test liao like that.

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shud go ah yat abalone, if yes, then i shall tag along  tongue.gif
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ah yat abalone is dinner lo...not yum cha le...
i wan cake la...cake is better...sweet..^^
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I thought you said somewhere in the post you're 46 or something, sked what guard? Show I.C only la.

Yumcha need to see how much it cost one meh? I thought important thing is the person you yumcha with? Fail test liao like that.
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sei zai...wat 46 ar?zzz....27 ok? IS 27 LA!!!

of coz can show IC la...but is fun to play with tat...

hm...if the person yum cha with me is ngam oh...i treat oso can la...no problem de..i willing to..but u sure u r the one ar?
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I thought you said somewhere in the post you're 47 or something, sked what guard? Show I.C only la.

Yumcha need to see how much it cost one meh? I thought important thing is the person you yumcha with? Fail test liao like that.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 10:52 AM)
ah yat abalone is dinner lo...not yum cha le...
i wan cake la...cake is better...sweet..^^
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 10:54 AM)
sei zai...wat 46 ar?zzz....27 ok? IS 27 LA!!!

of coz can show IC la...but is fun to play with tat...

hm...if the person yum cha with me is ngam oh...i treat oso can la...no problem de..i willing to..but u sure u r the one ar?
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I know your age, just want to see your reaction. Okay, at least you know I'm pulling your leg, lol.

Want to know ngam or not need to meet up and see liao, don't care the one or not lah, not like i'm looking for a relationship also.
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ah yat abalone is dinner lo...not yum cha le...
i wan cake la...cake is better...sweet..^^
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Which cake do you like ? rclxms.gif
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I know your age, just want to see your reaction. Okay, at least you know I'm pulling your leg, lol.

Want to know ngam or not need to meet up and see liao, don't care the one or not lah, not like i'm looking for a relationship also.
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..........very funny.....can talk then ok la...ngam not mean in a relationship la ok? as long as we can chat with each other then ok lo...
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Which cake do you like ?  rclxms.gif
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Basically...all kind of cake!!!cheese cake, fresh cream cake, etc...etc...

but not banana cake or red velvet(forgot how to spell) cake...
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= =" suddenly this thread become chit chat thread....
so, conclusion u guys walking own path?
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:09 AM)
= =" suddenly this thread become chit chat thread....
so, conclusion u guys walking own path?
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Everyone is trying to help me ma....if u wan join..u r welcome too...^^
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:09 AM)
= =" suddenly this thread become chit chat thread....
so, conclusion u guys walking own path?
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I have a fren dating with her bf for 10 years.
End up my fren went to oversea for 3 months business trip. When she came back to Singapore, her bf already dating with another girl and the girl was pregnant already.

Her bf's parent said that "Their son" already changed and no longer the same. Yet the parents were so excited with the wedding. doh.gif

That's it for 10 years relationship.
TS, don't waste ur time, ur bf is not a good man, one day u both will break up or divorce again u will see..

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ah? not yet solve meh?
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Solved...but trying to help me enjoy my life???

hm...so should I close this thread?
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7chai bring her come out drink this friday~ wakakaakka!
need more kaki =_=
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Solved...but trying to help me enjoy my life???

hm...so should I close this thread?
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:14 AM)
7chai bring her come out drink this friday~ wakakaakka!
need more kaki =_=
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jan 7 2013, 11:13 AM)
I have a fren dating with her bf for 10 years.
End up my fren went to oversea for 3 months business trip. When she came back to Singapore, her bf already dating with another girl and the girl was pregnant already.

Her bf's parent said that "Their son" already changed and no longer the same. Yet the parents were so excited with the wedding. doh.gif

That's it for 10 years relationship.
TS, don't waste ur time, ur bf is not a good man, one day u both will break up or divorce again u will see..
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U know wat? No offense at all....sometimes I think some parents are way too protect their children nowadays...they didnt teach them wat is responsibility...if im the wife of this guy...next time when his parents getting older...i will just tell them ur son has changed..please go somewhere else...wanna see wats their react...
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 7 2013, 11:15 AM)
need more kaki or need more lui
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u stay mana?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:17 AM)
U know wat? No offense at all....sometimes I think some parents are way too protect their children nowadays...they didnt teach them wat is responsibility...if im the wife of this guy...next time when his parents getting older...i will just tell them ur son has changed..please go somewhere else...wanna see wats their react...
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Ya true. Totally agreed with you. They are not the one that hurt.
Pity my friend, leave a deep-hard-scar, until now no new bf. cry.gif
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Basically...all kind of cake!!!cheese cake, fresh cream cake, etc...etc...

but not banana cake or red velvet(forgot how to spell) cake...
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You have a sweet tooth.
Anyway, catch up laters - got to start working

Have a great Monday. Try by thinking about happy stuffs smile.gif
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:18 AM)
dude! dun so direct.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:18 AM)
This is privacy le...u shouldnt ask me here la!! LOL....
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:17 AM)
U know wat? No offense at all....sometimes I think some parents are way too protect their children nowadays...they didnt teach them wat is responsibility...if im the wife of this guy...next time when his parents getting older...i will just tell them ur son has changed..please go somewhere else...wanna see wats their react...
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qinetics, what happen already is a past. just move on, people change.
look in the bright side, this break up maybe u help u find a better boyfriend?
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 7 2013, 11:20 AM)
your intention so obvious
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:20 AM)
qinetics, what happen already is a past. just move on, people change.
look in the bright side, this break up maybe u help u find a better boyfriend?
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I was thinking to find a better looking bf le...ur gang got or not?

And...dun call me qinetics..lol..this actually my company name, this acc was created to do some company stuff de...
Call me waiwai please...^^
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:22 AM)
I was thinking to find a better looking bf le...ur gang got or not?

And...dun call me qinetics..lol..this actually my company name, this acc was created to do some company stuff de...
Call me waiwai please...^^
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u mean good looking? so so looking?
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jan 7 2013, 11:19 AM)
Ya true. Totally agreed with you. They are not the one that hurt.
Pity my friend, leave a deep-hard-scar, until now no new bf. cry.gif
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hm...sad to hear this..wish ur fren the best la...!!

QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:25 AM)
u mean good looking? so so looking?
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err...got good looking ofcoz the best la..if no..then oso bo bian ar...
but i scare later im the one without good looking...lol
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:29 AM)
hm...sad to hear this..wish ur fren the best la...!!
err...got good looking ofcoz the best la..if no..then oso bo bian ar...
but i scare later im the one without good looking...lol
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brows.gif my good looking friend all occupied jor.
biasa la.. im not good looking so foreveralone.jpg

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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:17 AM)
U know wat? No offense at all....sometimes I think some parents are way too protect their children nowadays...they didnt teach them wat is responsibility...if im the wife of this guy...next time when his parents getting older...i will just tell them ur son has changed..please go somewhere else...wanna see wats their react...
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I agree, some parents always tell their daughters super scary story like "it's dangerous to talk to strangers", end up when the child grows up always scared of this and that.

Last weekend this lady I was with wanted to look at some greenery, but it was already dusk, so I brought her to a fairly famous park, it wasn't well lit, so she said "it doesn't look safe lah", I'm like fine whatever, brought her to another park, not as famous but fairly well lit she was like "eh why so quiet around here one? not safe lah". Fed up mang... end up making out in the car instead. doh.gif
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 7 2013, 11:34 AM)
I agree, some parents always tell their daughters super scary story like "it's dangerous to talk to strangers", end up when the child grows up always scared of this and that.

Last weekend this lady I was with wanted to look at some greenery, but it was already dusk, so I brought her to a fairly famous park, it wasn't well lit, so she said "it doesn't look safe lah", I'm like fine whatever, brought her to another park, not as famous but fairly well lit she was like "eh why so quiet around here one? not safe lah". Fed up mang... end up making out in the car instead. doh.gif
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What do u mean by "end up making out in the car instead"?????
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:32 AM)
brows.gif  my good looking friend all occupied jor.
biasa la.. im not good looking so foreveralone.jpg
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aiyo...wanna say like this meh?so sad....foreveralone but still got frens ma...where got alone?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:17 AM)
U know wat? No offense at all....sometimes I think some parents are way too protect their children nowadays...they didnt teach them wat is responsibility...if im the wife of this guy...next time when his parents getting older...i will just tell them ur son has changed..please go somewhere else...wanna see wats their react...
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not only didn't teach them wat is responsibility.. in fact, some parents are selfish too.
My MIL used to tell me not to give pocket money to popo (her own mother) coz she said popo won't be using money (she worry those money will goes to her SIL's hand). So now, shall I said to my MIL that we won't give her any more money coz she is way richer than us. She had just got big inheritance from FIL and also another uncle.

And MIL told me that she was scare of taking care her dying MIL (FIL's mother).. so should I wait til the day she fall sick and tell her that I am being her DIL.. now my turn to scare of taking care of her.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:42 AM)
aiyo...wanna say like this meh?so sad....foreveralone but still got frens ma...where got alone?
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laugh.gif where got sad, time change, people change.
go with the flow, not letting the flow take over you.
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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 7 2013, 11:43 AM)
not only didn't teach them wat is responsibility.. in fact, some parents are selfish too.
My MIL used to tell me not to give pocket money to popo (her own mother) coz she said popo won't be using money (she worry those money will goes to her SIL's hand). So now, shall I said to my MIL that we won't give her any more money coz she is way richer than us. She had just got big inheritance from FIL and also another uncle.

And MIL told me that she was scare of taking care her dying MIL (FIL's mother).. so should I wait til the day she fall sick and tell her that I am being her DIL.. now my turn to scare of taking care of her..  hmm.gif
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u shd record wat ur MIL said...then replay to her in future...LOL n record her face react...
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:45 AM)
laugh.gif  where got sad, time change, people change.
go with the flow, not letting the flow take over you.
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So..u r happy to be forever alone la?
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What do u mean by "end up making out in the car instead"?????
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What do you think it means? Aiseh mang.
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What do you think it means? Aiseh mang.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:46 AM)
So..u r happy to be forever alone la?
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foreveralone nevermind de.. as long i earn more now... then enjoy all the $.
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:48 AM)
laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
foreveralone nevermind de.. as long i earn more now... then enjoy all the $.
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Wa...sounds like a rich guy here lo...hm...rich guy is better than good looking guy!!
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:49 AM)
Wa...sounds like a rich guy here lo...hm...rich guy is better than good looking guy!!
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rich? nope, 7chai much better then me. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:50 AM)
rich? nope, 7chai much better then me.  laugh.gif
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rich? nope, 7chai much better then me.  laugh.gif
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Earn more but not rich...zz wats tat mean???huh...so boring..
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 7 2013, 11:53 AM)
wariao, no such things
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u got ur SLK! i got my no. 11 bus.
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 11:53 AM)
Earn more but not rich...zz wats tat mean???huh...so boring..
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earn more = rich? LOL! i don't want give opinion.. i'll just keep the opinion for myself.
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QUOTE(Damian @ Jan 7 2013, 11:53 AM)
u got ur SLK! i got my no. 11 bus.
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Both of u sure or not? one got SLK...another one got a bus le!!! Both oso rich lo...
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Both of u sure or not? one got SLK...another one got a bus le!!! Both oso rich lo...
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LOL! u very funny waiwai...
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LOL! u very funny waiwai...
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jan 7 2013, 11:19 AM)
Ya true. Totally agreed with you. They are not the one that hurt.
Pity my friend, leave a deep-hard-scar, until now no new bf. cry.gif
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because she just like the old bf. then she is the one that is not so smart. 10 years also cannot get pregant with the bf. but the bf with another girl straight get pregnant.

if u want to catch a men got to be smart la. ur fren not so smart.

do not love the men more...women should love themselves more

just find a new one. so many single guys out there but she dunwan

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Good to know you're doing well waiwai.  smile.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 09:26 AM)
Think in another way..now i no need curi-curi to look for handsome boy lo...straightly my fb profile pic changed to my handsome idol pic...
...and baidewei, ur doin it rong. You don't look for handsome boy by putting handsome idol as your FB profile pic. Must put pretty pic of yourself. biggrin.gif

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lol...who the hell is cassanova Alvin?!?!?!? Am I suppose to know?
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Who the hell are you? The message was not meant for you. So why the hell you want to know when its none of your biz?
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...and baidewei, ur doin it rong. You don't look for handsome boy by putting handsome idol as your FB profile pic. Must put pretty pic of yourself.  biggrin.gif
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i dun have pretty pic...
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Wah, problem solve ar... Suddenly all leng zhai come date qinetics tongue.gif rclxms.gif
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i dun have pretty pic...
Take some photos of yourself laa. Or ask a friend to take for you. You're single again, you need to get into self-promo mode. smile.gif

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Wah, problem solve ar... Suddenly all leng zhai come date qinetics  tongue.gif  rclxms.gif
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lol...nobody date me la...not yet..^^

Still waititng..
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Dear Wai Wai, please exercise extra caution when meeting up with anyone over the Internet, even if its with nice guys from this forum. You can google on the steps to be taken such as don't leave your food / drinks unattended when going to the washroom, etc.

But congrats, your single again. There is always a tendency to get into a rebound but its better you rediscover who you are. After being with someone for so long, you tend to forget who you are, so take time.


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Dear Wai Wai, please exercise extra caution when meeting up with anyone over the Internet, even if its with nice guys from this forum.  You can google on the steps to be taken such as don't leave your food / drinks unattended when going to the washroom, etc.
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Yes yes, I'm sure all men on the internet are dangerous serial rapists who carry around date rape drugs in their pockets whenever they are in the presence of women, and women are incompetent imbeciles who can't tell what's good for them.

It's really condescending when people posts crap like this, it insults BOTH men and women.
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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 7 2013, 01:33 PM)
Dear Wai Wai, please exercise extra caution when meeting up with anyone over the Internet, even if its with nice guys from this forum.  You can google on the steps to be taken such as don't leave your food / drinks unattended when going to the washroom, etc.

But congrats, your single again. There is always a tendency to get into a rebound but its better you rediscover who you are. After being with someone for so long, you tend to forget who you are, so take time.
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well, im going to meet a girls from this forum. what shud i do to protect myself unsure.gif
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 10:07 PM)
Stupid circular reasoning again, chicken and egg crap.

If a bolt on a screw isn't tight, it will eventually fall out after a lot of rumble and tumble, regardless of whether a spanner exist. If a spanner comes along, the bolt then comes undone from the screw. Even if it isn't undone, it will not be as tight as before, and it is the fault of the spanner isn't it?

Don't keep putting up crap like "oh the bolt should change size to avoid the spanner" Bottomline is you suck at understanding linear logic, and your narcissistic ego is constantly trying to warp it such that there is no fault on you.
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It's chicken and egg ONLY if you deliberately try to ignore moral obligation part he/she has to his/her partner in a relationship.

One rule that's universal. Everyone has the right to fight for their own happiness and it's entirely defined by that individual itself as long it it's within books of law. He has no moral obligation for this matter.
Your explanation here refrain people from the right from undoing the screw contradicts the right for the other person to fight for his/her happiness.

Mine on the other hand doesn't. Spannar can always try to undo (fighting for his/her happiness) while those in relationship is free consolidate their existing position(Fighting for their own happiness). Bear in mind, for those in relationship has the moral obligation to keep their words in which poses a direct disadvantage to any spannar which is why spannaring is not a smart choice.

Nonetheless, it's a fair competition. It's either one of the existing partner or the spannar is gonna get frustrated. Remember, those in relationship has the advantage of the other partner owing them their loyalty. As long as the existing partner doesn't do anything foolish enough to negates this advantage, I see no reason he/she will lose.

The part anyone will hate a spannar to this level is the part he/she is unable to consolidate his/her existing position. He/she is losing out and refuse admitting defeat. That's all.


QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 6 2013, 10:07 PM)
Extrapolation fallacy. The partner who got sexually cheated on is free to end the relationship. If the partner doesn't want to end it, then learn how to deal with it.

Imagine this, a woman f*cks another man, no emotional attachment whatsoever, comes back confesses, and the guy says "That's a bad thing you did, but as long as you're loyal and honest about it, I'll let it slide" so she stays. WOW guess what? The guy now fits the bill of the "betterman" in your ridiculous stealing scenario, you just shot yourself in the foot.
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I triple dare this ostrich that I said the betterman is permanent.
No, I didn't. All the while that I have emphasized here is that, it's up to the individual to decide what's betterman. If she thinks that if he is. Then he is. If she thinks that he is not, she is just gonna say she cheated and she moving on with another guy. You just pointed out your stupidity. Thank you.
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QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 7 2013, 02:59 PM)
well, im going to meet a girls from this forum. what shud i do to protect myself  unsure.gif
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bring along pepper spray la... thumbup.gif
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well, im going to meet a girls from this forum. what shud i do to protect myself  unsure.gif
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same thing bro, the precautions applies to both men and women meeting strangers especially for the first time and moreover over the internet. Same precaution also applies to ppl who like clubbing, etc. Don't leave yr drinks unattended.
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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 7 2013, 03:07 PM)
It's chicken and egg ONLY if you deliberately try to ignore moral obligation part he/she has to his/her partner in a relationship.

No, it's chicken and egg because you refuse to take responsibility for your actions of sabotaging someone else's relationship.

QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 7 2013, 03:07 PM)
I triple dare this ostrich that I said the betterman is permanent.
No, I didn't. All the while that I have emphasized here is that, it's up to the individual to decide what's betterman. If she thinks that if he is. Then he is. If she thinks that he is not, she is just gonna say she cheated and she moving on with another guy. You just pointed out your stupidity. Thank you.
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You can tell that a person who came up with a contradictory theory is an idiot. The hypergamous person who no moral obligations has the prerogative of deciding who is better. It's like saying a criminal can decide whether he is innocent or not. LOL! Guess we know who's the stupid one now. You're welcome laugh.gif
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if he loves you, he will try hard to convince his family to accept you, but he didn't and ended up wasting ur 9years time.
if I was you, I will make him confess his fault infront of me and the girl, lastly i will dump him off infront of the girl.
You seems like a clever and successful woman, why would you scare to lose a man?! i think he's the one should scare to lose you.

just because of 9years relationship doesn't mean that you cannot lose that guy, think about it, he has no promise done on you -a steady marriage-
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Go and talk to the girl instead of asking your bf to lose his face.

Maybe you really not good enough for him enough that why he dare to challenge you to let you know, you not the only girl.

With 10 year relationship, lower down your pride and get over it with your pride instead. In city life, lust seduction is hard to resist. Office lust is easy and quick to get it.

So you may want to change and improve your behaviour too. It take two hand to clap...

If u love him enough - i m sure you can forgive him, likewise vice versa.


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QUOTE(topy6230 @ Jan 7 2013, 04:58 PM)
Go and talk to the girl instead of asking your bf to lose his face.

Maybe you really not good enough for him enough that why he dare to challenge you to let you know, you not the only girl.

With 10 year relationship, lower down your pride and get over it with your pride instead. In city life, lust seduction is hard to resist. Office lust is easy and quick to get it.

So you may want to change and improve your behaviour too. It take two hand to clap...

If u love him enough - i m sure you can forgive him, likewise vice versa.
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QUOTE(topy6230 @ Jan 7 2013, 04:58 PM)
Go and talk to the girl instead of asking your bf to lose his face.

Maybe you really not good enough for him enough that why he dare to challenge you to let you know, you not the only girl.

With 10 year relationship, lower down your pride and get over it with your pride instead. In city life, lust seduction is hard to resist. Office lust is easy and quick to get it.

So you may want to change and improve your behaviour too. It take two hand to clap...

If u love him enough - i m sure you can forgive him, likewise vice versa.
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Lol....please at least try to think before u write a statement like this...u can just tell me im not the only gal but not after 'office lust' ok?

But anyway...i did wat u suggested..but..hm..now im not the one who is asking for break up..samor..after we talked and talked and talked..tat gal is not the main problem for us to break up...guys please dun ask...the reason for us to break up is quite privacy...LOL..

I loved him...but is adi past tense, i cant say who is the lost...but i do hope he can carry on with a better life.. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 05:12 PM)
Lol....please at least try to think before u write a statement like this...u can just tell me im not the only gal but not after 'office lust' ok?

But anyway...i did wat u suggested..but..hm..now im not the one who is asking for break up..samor..after we talked and talked and talked..tat gal is not the main problem for us to break up...guys please dun ask...the reason for us to break up is quite privacy...LOL..

I loved him...but is adi past tense, i cant say who is the lost...but i do hope he can carry on with a better life.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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colin y, quite the advice giver! didn't know you started fishing in forums. lol.
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 7 2013, 03:24 PM)
No, it's chicken and egg because you refuse to take responsibility for your actions of sabotaging someone else's relationship.
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I take that as you will pass any promotion opportunity to any of your senior and it's wrong for you to leapfrog them despite your merits. Yeah, right!

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 7 2013, 03:24 PM)
You can tell that a person who came up with a contradictory theory is an idiot. The hypergamous person who no moral obligations has the prerogative of deciding who is better. It's like saying a criminal can decide whether he is innocent or not. LOL! Guess we know who's the stupid one now. You're welcome laugh.gif
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What's your problem with spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?
There is only one possibility. You dated a hypergamous b*tch and she think your just not good enough.
Is this so hard to admit? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 8 2013, 12:59 PM)
I take that as you will pass any promotion opportunity to any of your senior and it's wrong for you to leapfrog them despite your merits. Yeah, right!
What's your problem with spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?
There is only one possibility. You dated a hypergamous b*tch and she think your just not good enough.
Is this so hard to admit?  hmm.gif
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How, look who's reaching beyond pluto now. Resorting to stalker extrapolation arguments instead of sound reasoning. Your stalking facts aren't even close to being accurate.

Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL.
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How, look who's reaching beyond pluto now. Resorting to stalker extrapolation arguments instead of sound reasoning. Your stalking facts aren't even close to being accurate.

Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL.
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can i follow you? I love the way you bambu people. smile.gif

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can i follow you? I love the way you bambu people. smile.gif
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Why you want to bambu people? Better not lah, it's not attractive to the ladies yo.
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Why you want to bambu people? Better not lah, it's not attractive to the ladies yo.
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then you mean you bomb everyone in every threads make you attractive to ladies?
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then you mean you bomb everyone in every threads make you attractive to ladies?
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I don't bomb everyone in every thread, and I'm not looking to attract any ladies. Just knocking some sense into people.
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How, look who's reaching beyond pluto now. Resorting to stalker extrapolation arguments instead of sound reasoning. Your stalking facts aren't even close to being accurate.

Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL.
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"What's your problem with the spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?"
is a very sound reasoning that you know yourself and you know you are unable to respond.

As result, you resort to ostrich method of burrowing your brain somewhere by responding with cheap distasteful remarks saying "Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL."

QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 8 2013, 11:41 PM)
I don't bomb everyone in every thread, and I'm not looking to attract any ladies. Just knocking some sense into people.
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Apparently, and obviously you are NOT doing a good job with talking nonsense with extremely skewed assumptions. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 8 2013, 09:01 PM)
Why you want to bambu people? Better not lah, it's not attractive to the ladies yo.
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"What's your problem with the spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?"
is a very sound reasoning that you know yourself and you know you are unable to respond.

Actually, I have responded very thoroughly in many ways, which in your denial refused to see. I will summarize again:

1) Covetousness is a sin (to help you out with your lousy grammar, it is only applicable to the stealer) and adultery is punishable by law in many countries (for both the cheating parties).
2) Your "better man" theory is not only flawed, but stupid, in that you allow qualities that is universally defined as worse (such as subterfuge and infidelity) as a measurement of "better".
3) Your "freedom of choice" theory is not only flawed, not only stupid, but shows you have no understanding on the concept of freedom of choice. You basically want to apply responsibility on the freedom to choose on the cheating party, but deny the responsibility of freedom of choice of the stealing party. Therefore, it shows you lack of understanding on both the meaning of responsibility and the meaning of freedom of choice.
4) The entire foundation of your argument is based on the premise that there is no wrong doing on the stealer's part, I have exhaustively PROVEN that your premise is flawed, which means your entire argument is flawed. But you kept plowing on, which means you are intentionally avoiding responsibility on your part, indicating denial, which leads to your projection problems.

Knowing you, you will refuse to address those points, but instead choose to go around in circles injecting personal insults because you have NO SUBSTANCE. Case in point, see below of your remaining quote.
QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 9 2013, 12:13 PM)
As result, you resort to ostrich method of burrowing your brain somewhere by responding with cheap distasteful remarks saying "Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL."
Apparently, and obviously you are NOT doing a good job with talking nonsense with extremely skewed assumptions.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(s2peMocls @ Jan 9 2013, 02:44 PM)
Actually, I have responded very thoroughly in many ways, which in your denial refused to see. I will summarize again:

1) Covetousness is a sin (to help you out with your lousy grammar, it is only applicable to the stealer) and adultery is punishable by law in many countries (for both the cheating parties).
2) Your "better man" theory is not only flawed, but stupid, in that you allow qualities that is universally defined as worse (such as subterfuge and infidelity) as a measurement of "better".
3) Your "freedom of choice" theory is not only flawed, not only stupid, but shows you have no understanding on the concept of freedom of choice. You basically want to apply responsibility on the freedom to choose on the cheating party, but deny the responsibility of freedom of choice of the stealing party. Therefore, it shows you lack of understanding on both the meaning of responsibility and the meaning of freedom of choice.
4) The entire foundation of your argument is based on the premise that there is no wrong doing on the stealer's part, I have exhaustively PROVEN that your premise is flawed, which means your entire argument is flawed. But you kept plowing on, which means you are intentionally avoiding responsibility on your part, indicating denial, which leads to your projection problems.

Knowing you, you will refuse to address those points, but instead choose to go around in circles injecting personal insults because you have NO SUBSTANCE. Case in point, see below of your remaining quote.
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1) Please state clearly who and what's the condition and limitation for the law to be applicable. laugh.gif
2) Please do tell who is the one unfaithful in a relationship that involves 3 party. The spannar or the person that owes his/her partner his/her loyaly.
3) THE cheating party is responsible on the action of giving the approval for the 3rd party. Besides, everyone is responsible for their own happiness. I dare you to say it's not. Hence, the intend of fighting for what will make 3rd party happy is not wrong. But with only one condition that 3rd party has the approval for the other person which THE cheating party that shouldn't gave that approval in the first place. Don't bullshit me a spannar can be successful without this approval. You must be ostrich to believe so.
4) I did not specifically says all methods of spannaring action are not wrong. However, your argument only targets specific few action e.g. sabotaging, defaming, bla bla bla with foul intend but blatantly ignored the good intend by showing a better universally defined good attributes, e.g. loving, caring, etc etc. Now, is that' not a terrible projection of yours? Even this term you used "subterfuge" is based on THE projection of foul intend.

I addressed your question with question that you know your answer will have you cornered by your own stupidity.
Perhaps, you are right that I'm wrong to overestimate you stupidity. You are just ostrich to bury your brain somewhere.

My point is easy. Everybody is fighting for their happiness. How they choose to fight, alongside with you or against you, is entirely up to the individual choice. A universal choice that you refuse to admit.
If ever you really got dumped by a hypergamous b*tch and be with another guy, it's obvious that she is fighting against you which a choice she made. Just you choose to be oblivious about the approval that she gave other person and her choice to be unfaithful to you. Which actually render the other from any fault isn't it?
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QUOTE(qinetics @ Jan 7 2013, 05:12 PM)
Lol....please at least try to think before u write a statement like this...u can just tell me im not the only gal but not after 'office lust' ok?

But anyway...i did wat u suggested..but..hm..now im not the one who is asking for break up..samor..after we talked and talked and talked..tat gal is not the main problem for us to break up...guys please dun ask...the reason for us to break up is quite privacy...LOL..

I loved him...but is adi past tense, i cant say who is the lost...but i do hope he can carry on with a better life.. thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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yeah thn just make it a end . clear up your mind and decide it .
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post Jan 9 2013, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(RUI @ Jan 9 2013, 05:35 PM)
1) Please state clearly who and what's the condition and limitation for the law to be applicable.  laugh.gif
2) Please do tell who is the one unfaithful in a relationship that involves 3 party. The spannar or the person that owes his/her partner his/her loyaly.
3) THE cheating party is responsible on the action of giving the approval for the 3rd party. Besides, everyone is responsible for their own happiness. I dare you to say it's not. Hence, the intend of fighting for what will make 3rd party happy is not wrong. But with only one condition that 3rd party has the approval for the other person which THE cheating party that shouldn't gave that approval in the first place. Don't bullshit me a spannar can be successful without this approval. You must be ostrich to believe so.
4) I did not specifically says all methods of spannaring action are not wrong. However, your argument only targets specific few action e.g. sabotaging, defaming, bla bla bla with foul intend but blatantly ignored the good intend by showing a better universally defined good attributes, e.g. loving, caring, etc etc. Now, is that' not a terrible projection of yours? Even this term you used "subterfuge" is based on THE projection of foul intend.

I addressed your question with question that you know your answer will have you cornered by your own stupidity.
Perhaps, you are right that I'm wrong to overestimate you stupidity. You are just ostrich to bury your brain somewhere.

My point is easy. Everybody is fighting for their happiness. How they choose to fight, alongside with you or against you, is entirely up to the individual choice. A universal choice that you refuse to admit.
If ever you really got dumped by a hypergamous b*tch and be with another guy, it's obvious that she is fighting against you which a choice she made. Just you choose to be oblivious about the approval that she gave other person and her choice to be  unfaithful to you. Which actually render the other from any fault isn't it?
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1) Already stated this in the spanner thread. If you've forgotten, go pop some ginkgo pills
2) Irrelevant to the statement I made about your ridiculous "better man" crap, thus this is a red herring response. Nonetheless, already addressed in my point 1, covetousness is a sin. You are basically pulling the red herring away to the party guilty of infidelity, hoping that by process of elimination, people overlook covetousness as a sin. Already pointed this out also, but you keep repeating the same crap.
3) Chicken and egg argument (again... sigh so boring). I can easily say "the stealer shouldn't interfere in the relationship in the first place". Like I had said before, you just love going in circles.
4) Doesn't matter the whatever methods is used to steal, the fact is that the ACT of stealing itself is wrong, which I have proven over and over again. Everything else you say is just to justify a rejection of an already established moral and legal definition.

Speaking of hypergamy, a hypergamous woman will proactively seek a better status man. Now this is where your "better man" theory and "shouldn't have" nonsense gets shot to tell. The better man (no arguments from me here, since that guy clearly is a better man to a hypergamous woman) responds and she dumps the guy, in this situation, obviously the better man is at fault since he "shouldn't have given his approval in the first place", and even he rejects her, it would make the first guy the "better man" which he obviously isn't. Two bullcrap shot down with one stone.

The remainder of your hogwash is further shaming (which I had already predicted, thank you very much), and further demonstration of your denial and projection. So I will not bother with it.

This post has been edited by s2peMocls: Jan 9 2013, 10:18 PM
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post Jan 9 2013, 08:42 PM

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TS, i think you should close this thread... a new year a new beginning . forget pass and go on with living. let the wounds heal within 1 or 2 years.. i starting to smell bullshitting in here ald.
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post Jan 9 2013, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(The_Rock @ Jan 9 2013, 08:42 PM)
TS, i think you should close this thread... a new year a new beginning . forget pass and go on with living. let the wounds heal within 1 or 2 years.. i starting to smell bullshitting in here ald.
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Will it be too long to get the wound heal?zzz.....lol...it wont be...i will only give it maximum 1 month, as it adi heal 90%

Ok....thread is close!!

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