Ask him what is he willing to do to earn your forgiveness. And please let him know what he is asking. He is asking you to live with a splinter at the back of your head for rest of your life without having the right to mention it ever again.

Ask him how much does this sacrifice he is asking you to make worth and if is it too much for him to ask your forgiveness in front of that girl.

Well, if it is. I guess you should know the depth of your relationship with his answer and know what to do.

Agreed. If it's unbearable to live with, I strongly suggest TS to just turn around and walk.

Disagree. What's the point to have a close relationship. What's the meaning of fidelity and faithfulness if everyone were to keep a "back-up" just in case things don't work out?
Might as well explicitly indicate you want an open relationship just to be fair.

You are pissing off at the wrong person here.
Let's face it. She has no obligation to respect you or your relationship.

Your BF on the other hand owe you his loyalty. Even if today you go over to the office and slap the girl will not solve the problem.
It's just a matter of time you will have to slap another girl. When is this gonna end?

Does she really hold the trump cards after he is being honest and confessed not once but twice?

You are suggesting TS to be the best doormat in this world.
I seriously doubt you would give similar advice if the gender is switched making you the real psedo-anti-feminist isnt?

Where is you BF. Please direct your BF here! Introduce him to me.

I'm really curious if you can walk the talk. Because if you do, you are the coolest GF/doormat any dude would want!

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 2 2013, 10:27 AM

If you notice the difference, that relationship involves a legal contract and this doesn't.
You advice there prevent the husband from paying alimony in case of divorce.
You advice here suggesting TS to be door mat or worse object of sexual satisfaction.

Same advice doesn't apply here. There is NO trump card to begin with. What she has left now is her pride & self-respect. She can't drop herself to a level losing that.
Love is a bilateral relationship. It's kinda syok sendiri suggestion you giving there.

What is the intend of the above if it's not dropping TS to an object?
A very insulting level for anyone regardless of gender to find themselves in especially after almost a decade of commitment.

Imagine what a poor soul would be if she/he has to do that all over when he/she is 60.
Your suggestion simply disgust me.

And what good exactly does this victim card does in this case webster.
No good and very insulting.

If she drops to the level you are suggesting, I only see more shit to rubbed on her face.
You are a misogynist anyway. I wouldn't expect you to come up with anything fair for TS.

Lucky you. Remember that he gave you assurance and made you feel how you are feeling now.
But why TS is not getting the similar treatment. That says alot about him and the depth of the relationship isn't it?

On the other hand, would you say the same to him?

Careful with PM s2peMocls sent, he is explicitly said that ONLY SEX matters him. munkeyflo, you got a nice BF there. Don't mess it up.

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 2 2013, 11:22 AM

Why is the attention has changed from the @sshole being unfaithful to TS is the b*tch that causes that @sshole to be unfaithful.

What matters now is if that @sshole deserves forgiveness and if TS can live with this fact forever.

There is literally no justification for infidelity. And if anyone has got any; you must be arguing from a denial ground. Not to mention rewarding infidelities, you must trying to clown yourself.

I think you left this out.
He will do it again and again regardless if his partner is NOTHING. There is no cost and no disadvantage to begin with.

This case resembles it. He is not caught. He is not even trying to hide. He admitted that he cheated, he explicits says that "All I'm gonna do is say sorry and you go fly kite if you want anything more".
And yes! She has a card to play and a choice to make. It's called "take it or leave it".

I have every reason to believe that a relationship has been one way traffic for quite sometime to find themselves in such situation.

Women! here is how to spot a trait of potential cheater!
What determines he is a cheater or not is if he is going to tell you explicitly that your relationship is no different than "it's just sex".

Just not everyone thinks with a d*ck and don't hv the brain to digest the implication of cheating.

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 4 2013, 01:58 PM

What does handsome or rich has to do with anything.
What will on the other hand is his character.

A responsible man will NEVER make such a grave mistake.
And unfortunately, women digs this kinda men ALL THE TIME.

Well, lucky enough that you are the only one in this forum that is daft enough to say that having sex outside a closed relationship is not cheating.
Any responsible & committed man will NOT cheat. They are MAN of their words. Real man. Don't think you are.

So now what, @sshole like you who has the ability to "compartmentalize" and think with your d*ck makes you the man?
No. That makes you a stray dog on the street.

P.S. I separated them very well in my earlier post. A close relationship is a combination of commitment and sex. What make you a cheater is deceiving the other partner into relationship(commitment & sex) for just sex without the commitment. Unless you stated that at the beginning of the relationship that which renders you not a cheater.

Well, @sshole are @sshole and this @sshole probably is gonna say, "Not explicitly stated or written is not cheating" or "I didn't say it's not a closed relationship when we started".
Typical.

No. The ONLY one that is wrong in "stealing" case is the one that LET him/herself stolen. It just matter of this or that spannar.
Technically, if you are not too dumb, you should know yourself that when someone that says "I WANT TO BE STOLEN" renders the other person "stealing" not wrong isn't it?

Oh c'mon, don't flatter yourself believing that you are able to get under those pants without her giving you shit right?

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 4 2013, 05:49 PM

My point is easy. This term "steal" is NOT applicable for relationship which means the above is NONSENSE.
I'm gonna prove your stupidity for one last time.
1) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that's free to begin with. In this sense, she/he decides his or her availability which the other partner has no control over. The ONLY wrong part is he/she shouldn't be available if he/she is already in relationship.
2) You can't accuse someone for stealing something that you can't claim property. In this sense, you don't own him or her.

I'm sure any mentally deficient retard can grasp that.
But you, I'm lost of adjective.

You fail to acknowledge that the cheater KNOWINGLY put the other partner into emotional torture by having sex outside relationship. That intention is nothing less than emotional cheating.

No. Cheating in any form doesn't imply anything to some retards. Especially to some retards when they already have the relationship so "compartmentalized" when all they care about is sex.

Now, I tell you why you ARE THE stupid hamster.
referring to 1) If he/she is already unavailable, why the f*ck he/she still layan the other fella. The ONLY wrong here.
and which make the following question a stupid one. 2) Since he/she is already humping someone outside the relationship, why not you ask him/her if she is still consider him/herself belong the the existing partner?

You know the answer. You insist on denying it. You choose to be the ostrich and burrow you brain somewhere.

If you are suspect of a crime, you got bunch of police on your tail.
If you are a suspect of a cheat, what can she do but feel crap? You know this ostrich.

So this ostrich is gonna say, "I'm innocent until proven guilty. You as my GF obliged to f*ck me until i'm proven cheating".

You are just lame.

There is no moral obligation on the other fellas part. How is that morally wrong?
She on the other has that moral obligation not to layan.

This is entertaining.

Literally and technically, you are both right.

So you are saying that as long as a con victim doesn't know that he/she is conned makes the conman not a conman/guilty.
And the con victim should reward a conman for admitting his con?

I kinda like this ostrich logic.

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 6 2013, 01:26 AM

Likewise mentioned gazillion times. Boundaries are just limited for those in the relationship. If he/she respect that boundaries, a 3rd party will have NO play at all. Cannot do anything but to give up. Comprehendes?

Do you f*cking think that the woman involved in TS relationship can actually get onto her bed without that @sshole opening that door. You seriously think that she can? She might be just a woman that wants sex like you do. Doesn't give a damm what happens to TS relationship. No moral obligation on her part nor any moral obligation like how you run your relationship.

But on the other hand, if that @sshole BF respect these boundaries and TS hard work; he would hv just turn her down and send her home. Which is ultimately the ONLY wrong here.

Go on with your ostrich reason. Say it's not. Very entertaining.

This is exactly the wrong belief that gives men the bad name and should avoided.
THE belief that as long as "ultimately the attachment and loyalty is to the partner". You f*ck any girl that comes along, the partner should reward you for being honest, and also because you are in the relationship STILL. You only an @sshole when you leave.

Terrible belief. You are an @sshole the moment you turn against your words. The part when you lied about agreeing on closed relationship (unless stated otherwise). The part when you wasn't true to your words nor yourself when you started the relationship. That's already unfaithful to begin with. Its not about STD, it's not about getting someone else pregnant.

Question that follow from your "fact" would be, can someone live with an unfaithful partner?

This post has been edited by RUI: Jan 6 2013, 05:39 PM

It's chicken and egg ONLY if you deliberately try to ignore moral obligation part he/she has to his/her partner in a relationship.

One rule that's universal. Everyone has the right to fight for their own happiness and it's entirely defined by that individual itself as long it it's within books of law. He has no moral obligation for this matter.
Your explanation here refrain people from the right from undoing the screw contradicts the right for the other person to fight for his/her happiness.

Mine on the other hand doesn't. Spannar can always try to undo (fighting for his/her happiness) while those in relationship is free consolidate their existing position(Fighting for their own happiness). Bear in mind, for those in relationship has the moral obligation to keep their words in which poses a direct disadvantage to any spannar which is why spannaring is not a smart choice.

Nonetheless, it's a fair competition. It's either one of the existing partner or the spannar is gonna get frustrated. Remember, those in relationship has the advantage of the other partner owing them their loyalty. As long as the existing partner doesn't do anything foolish enough to negates this advantage, I see no reason he/she will lose.

The part anyone will hate a spannar to this level is the part he/she is unable to consolidate his/her existing position. He/she is losing out and refuse admitting defeat. That's all.


I triple dare this ostrich that I said the betterman is permanent.
No, I didn't. All the while that I have emphasized here is that, it's up to the individual to decide what's betterman. If she thinks that if he is. Then he is. If she thinks that he is not, she is just gonna say she cheated and she moving on with another guy. You just pointed out your stupidity. Thank you.

I take that as you will pass any promotion opportunity to any of your senior and it's wrong for you to leapfrog them despite your merits. Yeah, right!

What's your problem with spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?
There is only one possibility. You dated a hypergamous b*tch and she think your just not good enough.
Is this so hard to admit?

"What's your problem with the spannar if your ex is a hypergamous person and YOU FAIL to meet her expectation while on the other hand she think he does?"
is a very sound reasoning that you know yourself and you know you are unable to respond.

As result, you resort to ostrich method of burrowing your brain somewhere by responding with cheap distasteful remarks saying "Basically, you're just saying "Yeah I can't argue against your logic, but I have a louder voice and a more vulgar vocabulary so I winRAR!". Fail. LOL."

Apparently, and obviously you are NOT doing a good job with talking nonsense with extremely skewed assumptions.