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The Nokia 808 Pureview 41MP Sensor

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808 =( nokia dont get its old glory anymore. Back then immediately a new thread everyone will be bumping it
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post Oct 11 2012, 11:31 AM

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congrats for new version biggrin.gif

well i thought it was the old thread lol

BTW, FP2 update is online again

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ohh, maybe there are new changes.

Edit: Only Nokia Music update for me. Previously Nokia Music won't open. Let's see after a restart.

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Still SYSTEM ERROR after restart the phone..sad.gif
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QUOTE(pokjak_290 @ Oct 11 2012, 11:46 AM)
Still SYSTEM ERROR after restart the phone..sad.gif
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i have this too, currently digging solutions..
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LOL.
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Using custom firmware for my 808
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swipe to unlock got patented doh.gif

another update from nokia ? brows.gif
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:29 PM

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Seems no Video Pro.

Anyone with current release of FP2 have this app?
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post Oct 11 2012, 02:39 PM

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congratz for this new version...

Nokia 808 - may be the last Symbian phone :sad:
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post Oct 11 2012, 07:25 PM

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still in dilemma whether wanna get this phone anot tongue.gif
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Oct 11 2012, 11:49 AM)
i have this too, currently digging solutions..
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post Oct 11 2012, 11:01 PM

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just updated FP2, soooo cool!! but I don't see any major improvement on the camera so its a little bit sad (the banding issue still there, but ISO blank shot is gone). Loved it, but I have to agree that 808PV is the last Symbian I would ever buy, its time to move on
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Oct 12 2012, 12:01 AM)
just updated FP2, soooo cool!! but I don't see any major improvement on the camera so its a little bit sad (the banding issue still there, but ISO blank shot is gone). Loved it, but I have to agree that 808PV is the last Symbian I would ever buy, its time to move on
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how do you reproduce the blue banding?
so far i have yet to notice it on my unit
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 11 2012, 02:29 PM)
Seems no Video Pro.

Anyone with current release of FP2 have this app?
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Still NO Video Pro sad.gif
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Finally new firmware is release. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif The New QWERTY keyboard is the best improvement on symbian.
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should update or not?
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Some owner found the decreased file size for full resolution image. As discussed in http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/1..._Pack_2_upd.php Mine updated via OTA version 113.010.1507. So far so good smile.gif No Video Pro Apps after update.
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Oct 11 2012, 11:01 PM)
Loved it, but I have to agree that 808PV is the last Symbian I would ever buy, its time to move on
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thats what i said 3yrs ago.
but i still bought a pv.
buy the technology, not the OS tongue.gif
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Nokia Pureview 808 beats 5 year old DSCs rclxms.gif

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/News/DxOM...5-year-old-DSCs

(ie. Canon Powershot G9 vs Nokia 808 Pureview vs Canon Powershot S100 vs Nikon D7000)

but lose to Samsung S3 in taking video ? hmm.gif
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~~~~~ fly by ~~~~ oooooooo.... LOL tongue.gif


Added on October 12, 2012, 5:34 pmdon't have the phone so how/nothing to comment... sad.gif


Added on October 12, 2012, 5:50 pmcongrat on the new thread... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Oct 12 2012, 10:25 AM)
thats what i said 3yrs ago.
but i still bought a pv.
buy the technology, not the OS tongue.gif
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so in conclusion symbian=unlimited technology? while lumia=5 years ago technology? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Left4Dead2 @ Oct 12 2012, 02:16 PM)
Nokia Pureview 808 beats 5 year old DSCs  rclxms.gif

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/News/DxOM...5-year-old-DSCs

(ie. Canon Powershot G9 vs Nokia 808 Pureview vs Canon Powershot S100 vs Nikon D7000)

but lose to Samsung S3 in taking video ?  hmm.gif
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means reviewer fail lor. None of those camera or DSLR have nokia rich recording and loseless zoom so only a noob reviewer will tell you S3 wins. If they do compare 808 with S3
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QUOTE(haley0918 @ Oct 12 2012, 12:36 AM)
how do you reproduce the blue banding?
so far i have yet to notice it on my unit
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If you want to see it clearly try to set yours into ISO 1600, with EV at -4 and try to shot in low light condition

But FP2 is very usable lah due to the blank shot fixed. still, they only play with the shutter speed and capped it at 1/666 (when using higher ISO in sunlight). Still is, I love my 808 PV blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif blush.gif
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Oct 13 2012, 04:32 AM)
If you want to see it clearly try to set yours into ISO 1600, with EV at -4 and try to shot in low light condition

But FP2 is very usable lah due to the blank shot fixed. still, they only play with the shutter speed and capped it at 1/666 (when using higher ISO in sunlight). Still is, I love my 808 PV  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif  blush.gif
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ah..now i see it
and from what i see, it must be electronic interference from neighboring components on the image sensor signal path
cause it could only be seen when the image sensor receives very low light for the signals
and sending those low values along the noisy signal path and coincidentally only affects the blue values
either nokia imaging team has tried to minimize it as much as possible or will require a motherboard redesign to fix it
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Testing... smile.gif

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I regret update to FP2..... my phone battery won't charge when homescreen is lock and idle. cry.gif
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I think it does charge the phone while homescreen is lock and idle, just the battery icon will stay at empty while charging. To confirm, use either battery monitor or simply use sleeping screen (download from nokia store, free) to check.

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Hi to all pureview owner here,

I wonder do you all face below problem that I m facing?

My phone camera function seem got problem. Everytimes, I take few photoes (5-15 or some period of time, say 2 minutes in camera mode), then suddenly my camera FREEZE. I exit the application & reenter camera mode, giving me same situation, FREEZE there.

I wonder what happen here.
any nokia service center to recommended? Is amcorp mall service center good?
I have a Black color Nokia 808 pureview from Zitron.


Added on October 14, 2012, 4:08 pmI have try all below , yet problem not solving.
1. Factory reset
2. Factory reset & data delete
3. hard reset the phone.

Any ideas?

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QUOTE(yorae9 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:07 PM)
Hi to all pureview owner here,

I wonder do you all face below problem that I m facing?

My phone camera function seem got problem. Everytimes, I take few photoes (5-15 or some period of time, say 2 minutes in camera mode), then suddenly my camera FREEZE. I exit the application & reenter camera mode, giving me same situation, FREEZE there.

I wonder what happen here.
any nokia service center to recommended? Is amcorp mall service center good?
I have a Black color Nokia 808 pureview from Zitron.


Added on October 14, 2012, 4:08 pmI have try all below , yet problem not solving.
1. Factory reset
2. Factory reset & data delete
3. hard reset the phone.

Any ideas?
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mine never hang before. I only getting the issue when you capture sometimes the photo become blank. So annoying. What version are u on?
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do you mean software version?
I wonder you all using same version as mine.
just bought it last sat

Release:
Nokia Belle Feature Pack 1

Software version:
112.020.0309

software version date:
2012-05-19

custom version
112.020.0309.C00.01

Custom version date:
2012-05-19

language set
112.020.0309.13.01

Product code
059M9H5

Model:
808 pureview

Type:
RM-807

Latest update:
Not updated

Browser version:
8.2

Flash version:
4.0

Java version:
2.4
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mine exactly same version with yours even product code is identical no issue.
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It could be hardware issue then.
this problem start when I use cross BB tripod which press hard on my camera button. But im not sure real cause yet.
anyway, I will bring to NCC for checking.
any service center recommend?
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Amcorp mall the fastest from my experience
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 14 2012, 05:56 PM)
Amcorp mall the fastest from my experience
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Yesh! totally agreed, same experience.

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last time before sunway NCC move out its the most fastest ever. same day can settle except no stock.
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anyone got same problem?i got this bug in FP1 even FP2.. cry.gif
gallery also hang a long time after restart phone.. vmad.gif

any solution?
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tak paham u mean it keep getting smaller?
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 14 2012, 07:17 PM)
tak paham u mean it keep getting smaller?
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no, not getting smaller i mean..i mean topbar or top right side..
for normal, it should be have shown time there..

shakehead.gif then i notice when you say my pic getting smaller..


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Experience the same camera freeze issue once (on FP2) this morning while pressing hard on camera button. It was running fine but once i take a photo, it freezes (and the photo is not saved). Then i realized i actually downloaded the best screen cap from 808 fan club site yesterday, uninstalled and reinstalled the version in nokia store. So far back to normal again.

eidda: is there a setting to make gallery thumbnail to view this small?
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QUOTE(realjazzcoke @ Oct 14 2012, 08:05 PM)

eidda: is there a setting to make gallery thumbnail to view this small?
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no any setting, this is bug, normal back to big size after restart..
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eidda: thanks for the clarification smile.gif

Although my stay with FP1 is not long (1 week +) before i updated into FP2, never see this gallery problem coming in (and hopefully we all dont have to). But there are some inconvenience in usability, there's no more on screen touch volume control in music/video, and the New T9 keyboard giving performance/problematic issues to old timer. (i think these are the few elements borrowed from N9, even the on/off switch controls in language looks quite identical to N9)


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QUOTE(eidda @ Oct 14 2012, 07:12 PM)
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anyone got same problem?i got this bug in FP1 even FP2.. cry.gif
gallery also hang a long time after restart phone.. vmad.gif

any solution?
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From Nokia Malaysia FB Group? I see u.... rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif


Added on October 14, 2012, 9:45 pm
QUOTE(yorae9 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:07 PM)
Hi to all pureview owner here,

I wonder do you all face below problem that I m facing?

My phone camera function seem got problem. Everytimes, I take few photoes (5-15 or some period of time, say 2 minutes in camera mode), then suddenly my camera FREEZE. I exit the application & reenter camera mode, giving me same situation, FREEZE there.

I wonder what happen here.
any nokia service center to recommended? Is amcorp mall service center good?
I have a Black color Nokia 808 pureview from Zitron.


Added on October 14, 2012, 4:08 pmI have try all below , yet problem not solving.
1. Factory reset
2. Factory reset & data delete
3. hard reset the phone.

Any ideas?
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Try reinstall firmware via Nokia Suite. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(pokjak_290 @ Oct 14 2012, 09:42 PM)
From Nokia Malaysia FB Group? I see u.... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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New Nokia 808 Pureview reporting in finally tongue.gif (Funny story : Bought from lowyat forum, the seller said had sold 3 units and all the buyers also come from Nokia N8 user including me)

First spam picture : Using a mirror and a cheap handphone tripod, captured the phone itself while using my i7 PC rig as background tongue.gif (Notice my rare black casing as well ? Cheap and good stuff !)

HDR photo captured using HDR Pro Camera app and process using its built in software nod.gif
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Non HDR photo at 8MP resolution for comparison (My room is low light)
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Consider myself lucky, I had no problem doing manual flashing to FP2 and so far got no serious hang or crash after install few apps. Though, got some comments and tips after using two days :

a.) Continuous auto focus (CAF) in video mode - Not working very well especially for near object, have to touch focus or draw back a little to work. My N8 in macro mode works very well

b.) Camera sound - Again no option to turn off. My 808 set was flash with European firmware version which got the option to turn off but had to flash to Asia version to get chinese character support. No pervert mode for me cry.gif

c.) Gallery & others - Like all people complaints => No option to multi-select for send via blue-tooth or FB in Gallery. The way the Gallery arrange its picture and video also didn't like (For me). No camera exit button and on screen volume control for music/radio (Fine for me)

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d.) Nokia browser - Don't bother, just go install Opera Mobile 12 with Asian language support. Remember to default it as the main browser application

e.) Camera apps - Just go install Camera Lover Pack. Fun and recommended !

f.) Wireless file transfer - Go install Dukto app (All app mentioned above - go search using google + keyword 'symbian or signed version'). Truly recommended. I transfer over 1 gig of data from my N8 via wifi to my 808 using this app. Also easy transfer between PC.

g.) Torchlight - While N8 got Redlight app, 808 didnt have any. BUT ..... hold the right slide unlock for 3 seconds and the back Xenon flash will light up !!! Very bright and to close it just do the same process

h.) Keyboard - The new keyboard is nice but just go install Swype. Works fine for me unlike other complaints

That's all for now. More to come when got time cool.gif

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a, c, h nod.gif

g...in case if you haven't been informed, 808 is equipped with both xenon and LED flash. in photo mode the LED flash replaces red light in n8 and n82. in video mode, the LED flash works to supplement brightness. so the torchlight function for 808 is actually turning on the LED flash and not xenon. smile.gif
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some disgusting shots. all no edit other than cropped...

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closer look...
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even closer...out of focus cause too close (no zoom/crop). =.=
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if xenon bulb can lit so long i guess you get conned by china phone lol.

no way xenon can lit so long lol.
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QUOTE(pokjak_290 @ Oct 14 2012, 09:42 PM)
From Nokia Malaysia FB Group? I see u.... rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif


Added on October 14, 2012, 9:45 pm
Try reinstall firmware via Nokia Suite. biggrin.gif
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I wonder will that void the warranty? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yorae9 @ Oct 15 2012, 07:46 AM)
I wonder will that void the warranty? sweat.gif
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Reinstall firmware via Nokia Suite tidak rosakkan warranty punya... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 15 2012, 10:58 PM)
Nokia 808

all processed with Lightroom.
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drool.gif cantik berseri-seri.. drool.gif
just using lightroom?look like using HDR mode,bcoz people around also blur..


Added on October 16, 2012, 12:13 amoh wait, or using long exposure..

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drool.gif cantik berseri-seri.. drool.gif
just using lightroom?look like using HDR mode,bcoz people around also blur..


Added on October 16, 2012, 12:13 amoh wait, or using long exposure..
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yup, only using lightroom, and you're right, they're just long exposure shots. biggrin.gif

wait let me upload the original...

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this is original shot of the first one, straight out of camera only cropped using lightroom. biggrin.gif
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My original headset come with 808 already spoil. Is there any good wired headset for 808?
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yup, only using lightroom, and you're right, they're just long exposure shots. biggrin.gif
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How to disable the vibrate when touch the screen?
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Did you pump a lot of clarity?
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can't remember (away from my laptop now), it was a brief pp but I think not too much cause I pump some contrast as well to balance the effect.
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Nokia 808

all processed with Lightroom.
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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Oct 16 2012, 12:46 AM)
My original headset come with 808 already spoil. Is there any good wired headset for 808?
Accessories comes with 6 months warranty @ any NCC. As stated in > http://download.fds-ncom.nokia.com/support...ows_APAC_en.pdf
There are plenty good wired headsets for 808 smile.gif what are your preferred music gerne cool.gif ?


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Reinstall firmware via Nokia Suite tidak rosakkan warranty punya... rclxms.gif
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Could be real nokia devicee lately nobody wants. Even nokia lumia 900 many shop dont accept trade in and even they do they take it very low like rm500 - rm800. Current retail rm1499.

There no more demand for nokia phones
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There are price cuts happening in the US and UK, any news for price cut on our shore? Really tempted to get this but can't afford sad.gif
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Just to update for my 808 phone repair.
It seem my phone 808 is come back alive and no more camera/video freeze problem. What the shop do is their upgrade my firmware to latest Belle 2. Also, my battery change to new one as old battery have heating issue when fully charge.
well, let see if the phone serve me good or not in next few month.
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ffuuuu...i won't want to place the camera bezel on that kind of surface  shakehead.gif
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Anyone here facing video recording drain battery quickly issue?

I record it using lowest setting:360p, 15fps,
yet, it drain my battery in no time.
From fully charges, to 1/4 of the battery bar. Is this normal?
I only do a 40 minutes recording.
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Anyone here facing video recording drain battery quickly issue?

I record it using lowest setting:360p, 15fps,
yet, it drain my battery in no time.
From fully charges, to 1/4 of the battery bar. Is this normal?
I only do a 40 minutes recording.
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thats quite fast.

one thing tho when recharging to 100% is to use nokia battery monitor.
cos i notice even tho its reached 100%, its still charging and still has about 30-40 more mins to go before it actually stops charging.

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Random question from my cousin few days back:

"What would you choose between Nokia 808 vs Sony Nex F3?"

P.S: They're currently priced at RM1699 though.

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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:07 AM)
Random question from my cousin few days back:

"What would you choose between Nokia 808 vs Sony Nex F3?"

P.S: They're currently priced at RM1699 though.

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Nokia has made this pity soul's life tough because of this beast..eh  sweat.gif
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Its not tough to decide because both device is totally different.


If his budget is 1699 for the next 3 years go for the 808 pureview

if his budget is not only 1699 but increase in few months to a year go for nex3


Next consideration is what type of photos he take?


If always fast action shots = NEX

if just simple random shots go for 808
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:58 AM)
Its not tough to decide because both device is totally different.
If his budget is 1699 for the next 3 years go for the 808 pureview

if his budget is not only 1699 but increase in few months to a year go for nex3
Next consideration is what type of photos he take?
If always fast action shots = NEX

if just simple random shots go for 808
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Actually ya, it's like comparing orange and apple :s

May I know why should he opt for Nex f3 if his budget were to increase in following months please? Because needed for maintenance and lenses?

My guess is.. next year will be his sister's wedding, so he might wan to take some good photographs, but at the same time pocketability is important since he will also be busy entertaining guests and relatives, kinda fussy eh :S
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 22 2012, 08:47 AM)
Actually ya, it's like comparing orange and apple :s

May I know why should he opt for Nex f3 if his budget were to increase in following months please? Because needed for maintenance and lenses?

My guess is.. next year will be his sister's wedding, so he might wan to take some good photographs, but at the same time pocketability is important since he will also be busy entertaining guests and relatives, kinda fussy eh :S
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in that case i think NEX better choice, i'm not sure NEX camera can export raw file or not. with more tweak-able setting better la lol.

maintanance? nah wont cost so much i guess. unless he drop camera on floor la. sweat.gif
or room store camera in humit kaw kaw condition then GG liao. unsure.gif
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watch in full hd, listen to the audio recorded. not sure when will other smartphone will have this rich recording


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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 22 2012, 08:47 AM)
Actually ya, it's like comparing orange and apple :s

May I know why should he opt for Nex f3 if his budget were to increase in following months please? Because needed for maintenance and lenses?

My guess is.. next year will be his sister's wedding, so he might wan to take some good photographs, but at the same time pocketability is important since he will also be busy entertaining guests and relatives, kinda fussy eh :S
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For that get nex3. 808 is not suitable for those type of scene or shots
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Basically he's now torn between the factors of "pocketability" and "image quality" and couldn't make up his mind to sacrifice either of them I assume, so.. ended up I can't help him to decide :S
Now asking LYN sellers for best prices of both "cameras", hopefully that could make up his mind derp.
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people are so worried about pocketability of camera, even with camera like Sony rx100, you're not going to fit that in your pants, and will need at least a small bag.

image quality? for serious? no comparison. the only thing Nokia will win is the megapixel war in good light, and a camera thats truely always with you. you won't get the same dynamic range and color depth with 808, and that's before you even talk about flexibity of a proper camera, and FAR more superior ISO performance.

if need absolutely pocketable camera, and dont want typical point and shoot quality, save up for Sony rx100.
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What happen to One Utama Nokia Care/Service Centre?
Taken over by Samseng?
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people are so worried about pocketability of camera, even with camera like Sony rx100, you're not going to fit that in your pants, and will need at least a small bag.

image quality? for serious? no comparison. the only thing Nokia will win is the megapixel war in good light, and a camera thats truely always with you. you won't get the same dynamic range and color depth with 808, and that's before you even talk about flexibity of a proper camera, and FAR more superior ISO performance.

if need absolutely pocketable camera, and dont want typical point and shoot quality, save up for Sony rx100.
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more serious go RX1 thumbup.gif drool.gif

but serious la , mobility cant on par with quality lol... it is like you want get a serious gaming rig but want a laptop do a job.... kinda hard.
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Nokia 808 pureview is an all in on3 awesomeness but unable to replace camera
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What happen to One Utama Nokia Care/Service Centre?
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closed down, not sure why. nokia 1u gave another service center address tho
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closed down, not sure why. nokia 1u gave another service center address tho
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am thinking of selling mine , today with the nokia phone over. Anyone interested, please PM me.


Added on October 22, 2012, 5:22 pmyiks .. too much of typo

am thinking of selling my pureview , comes together with the nokia phone cover. Anyone interested, please PM me.

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Hahaha to be honest I don't think he knows how to edit photo regardless Nex supported raw or not, so kinda useless to him xD
how to say humid huh? O.o
normal room temperature without air-cond can already? I've seen someone buy a fridge kind of thingy to control the temperature and put their dslr inside, kinda troublesome eh  sweat.gif
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only if you dont use camera for long time, actually my DSLR never put in "drybox". oh wait i dont even have it whistling.gif

nah even my n8 beat my D70s in term of iso noise and lower light condition. tongue.gif

but sharpness (pixel per count?) still DSLR win, 6mp raw vs 12mp JPEG

and got many room to edit for DSLR. because n8 got limited WB to choose so it is headache for wedding dinner shot.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 22 2012, 03:01 PM)
more serious go RX1  thumbup.gif  drool.gif

but serious la , mobility cant on par with quality lol... it is like you want get a serious gaming rig but want a laptop do a job.... kinda hard.
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yeah, but since they can actually stick such big sensor into the phone, if they make the megapixels more sensible I think there'll be a better chance to compete with camera with 1 inch sensor (albeit still apples and oranges).

QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 22 2012, 05:24 PM)
hahaha that's exactly what torn between his mind tongue.gif
808 allows you to capture precious moment anytime at any places but you need to forgo quality, nex is definitely the other way round :s
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i owned 808 for some time now and I can tell you that the best is to have both proper camera and any decent 8mp camera phone. my friend owned galaxy note and the pictures he took floored me, even his reputation being a hopeless camera man. for casual shooting you probably won't need anything better than that. even my other colleague took a shot with his S3 and printed A3 size nobody will actually thought its taken with a camera phone. regarding the xenon flash, there isn't much chance to use it and even if you do use it, it'll look harsh most of the time. yes it's handy to capture something that's impossible without xenon but in my experiences there was only 0.03% chance to use it.

PS: typo on my previous post, last paragraph. should be "portability" instead of "pocketability" because rx100 still not quite small enough to fit into pocket. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 22 2012, 05:47 PM)
only if you dont use camera for long time, actually my DSLR never put in "drybox". oh wait i dont even have it  whistling.gif

nah even my n8 beat my D70s in term of iso noise and lower light condition.  tongue.gif

but sharpness (pixel per count?) still DSLR win, 6mp raw vs 12mp JPEG

and got many room to edit for DSLR. because n8 got limited WB to choose so it is headache for wedding dinner shot.
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I think RX100 does support RAW file right? O.o
Just that they might need to convert it into another format to edit with photoshop (not too sure of that sweat.gif )
I wonder if pureview phase 3 will be raw format, that will be awesome lolololololol

QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 22 2012, 06:18 PM)
yeah, but since they can actually stick such big sensor into the phone, if they make the megapixels more sensible I think there'll be a better chance to compete with camera with 1 inch sensor (albeit still apples and oranges).
i owned 808 for some time now and  I can tell you that the best is to have both proper camera and any decent 8mp camera phone. my friend owned galaxy note and the pictures he took floored me, even his reputation being a hopeless camera man. for casual shooting you probably won't need anything better than that. even my other colleague took a shot with his S3 and printed A3 size nobody will actually thought its taken with a camera phone. regarding the xenon flash, there isn't much chance to use it and even if you do use it, it'll look harsh most of the time. yes it's handy to capture something that's impossible without xenon but in my experiences there was only 0.03% chance to use it.

PS: typo on my previous post, last paragraph. should be "portability" instead of "pocketability" because rx100 still not quite small enough to fit into pocket.  sweat.gif
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True. I got many friends keeping their big gun at home, they only bring it out on big festive season, and collecting dust most of the time sweat.gif
Well.. I guess I might convince him to get Nokia 808 first and only consider about "true camera" later, it's also good to save more and aim for better big gun, and tbh.. he doesn't look like the one that willing to bring big guns all the time -.-
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nokia already hitting the floor loh... most m'sia employment "re-structure" konon...  whistling.gif
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The key word now is Window 8 and its phone OS. Once released only then we can see some life at Nokia store.

Everyone is waiting for that OS. I know I do too (for touch screen laptop and wacom pen).
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Nokia had/had been raped by many stubborn ceo, that's the cause if their downfall
They're like: we don't want to be too mainstream, so we will go the dead ended way, and we shall succeed with our sky high reputation!

That's what tarnished the brand,derp.
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 10:52 AM)
Nokia had/had been raped by many stubborn ceo, that's the cause if their downfall
They're like: we don't want to be too mainstream, so we will go the dead ended way, and we shall succeed with our sky high reputation!

That's what tarnished the brand,derp.
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sadly their CEO have bad management everyone talking about samsung looking forward for samsung. Their reputation now is at the most bottom. Even american today cant even pronounce samsung properly also choose samsung just imagine that.
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Lol now only aware of so many typos from my previous post,i hate typing on phone -.-

I think even IF WP8 turned out being successful, they will still unable to catch back throne of phone industry since samsung also taking wp8 alongside with Android, how to compete lol
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 12:04 PM)
Lol now only aware of so many typos from my previous post,i hate typing on phone -.-

I think even IF WP8 turned out being successful, they will still unable to catch back throne of phone industry since samsung also taking wp8 alongside with Android, how to compete lol
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Do you mean the Menu icon in background should not overlap with the search function?

It is sad that the legacy of Symbian (Nokia Belle) ends with PureView 808 for now. Nokia now are more focused on Hardware OEMs for Windows phone. And Nokia axed most of the Symbian developer's software to Windows Platform in order to add its advantageous over competitors sad.gif Which belongs to Symbian from the start... mad.gif
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QUOTE(realjazzcoke @ Oct 23 2012, 12:28 PM)
Do you mean the Menu icon in background should not overlap with the search function?

It is sad that the legacy of Symbian (Nokia Belle) ends with PureView 808 for now. Nokia now are more focused on Hardware OEMs for Windows phone. And Nokia axed most of the Symbian developer's software to Windows Platform in order to add its advantageous over competitors sad.gif Which belongs to Symbian from the start... mad.gif
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Actually I think its a natural progression of a device. Its better for them to focus on hardware, and let software eco system to grow on their own. The problem is that Nokia chose Win OS instead of others.

While they may have problem with the OS initially, they will let the Microsoft to handle software tweak from now on. it save them time and resources.

My guess is that after the start of this win8, nokia may focus on dedicated tweak on win8 to run their specific hardware resources. So its not impossible for them to introduce winOS that recognise pureview 41MPix camera in due course.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 23 2012, 12:20 PM)
i know how that feels even android so bad NOW on jelly bean they improved alot i am typing this on a galaxy note 2 minmum mistake without correction if i lazy to type i can even write. Still cant beat iphone but can say there are very close to iphone
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Android is quite refined now to be honest, and there comes "lime pie?" (the newest version of android to be announced on 29th oct).. they will get much more better :/
my bro and sis got their s3 and I'm kinda jealous, the games with superb graphics and apps that facilitate daily tasks (symbian and even WP platform still lacking far behind imo) kills me badly >.>

I think we might finally be able to take android as great symbian replacement in current state; some might argue that symbian runs smoothly on single core and having good battery life, etc,. but imo...
does it even matter anymore especially note2 has now proven superb multitasking and great battery life can be done on this power hogger OS?

as a Nokia fan, i can either pray for Nokia to adopt android after contract with microsoft ended or I shouldn't really trapped myself with brand of "nokia" anymore (hard earn money need to spend more wisely eh)

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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 01:20 PM)
Android is quite refined now to be honest, and there comes "lime pie?" (the newest version of android to be announced on 29th oct).. they will get much more better :/
my bro and sis got their s3 and I'm kinda jealous, the games with superb graphics and apps that facilitate daily tasks (symbian and even WP platform still lacking far behind imo) kills me badly >.>

I think we might finally be able to take android as great symbian replacement in current state; some might argue that symbian runs smoothly on single core and having good battery life, etc,. but imo...
does it even matter anymore especially note2 has now proven superb multitasking and great battery life can be done on this power hogger OS?

as a Nokia fan, i can either pray for Nokia to adopt android after contract with microsoft ended or I shouldn't really trapped myself with brand of "nokia" anymore (hard earn money need to spend more wisely eh)
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gaming still cant beat iphone example asphalt 7 on my note 2 abit laggy on my bro ipad 1 asphalt 7 minimum lag.

nokia been delaying and giving excuse too long now others have catch up windows phone 8 wont change the mobile industry it will just be apart of it.

Back then we keep saying how bad is android battery but they seems to change that furthermore 3100MAH is an exchangable battery dude how fast is single core like you said it doesnt matter anymore.

Now note 2 supports up to 64GB SDXC class 10 card. I just bought a 32GB SDHC Class 10 card but windows phone 8 just talking supporting memory cards =.="

Come on imagine this

Light Notification (Windows phone tak ada)
Real Time Notification Screen (windows phone tak ada)
5.5 inch screen
3100mah battery
S-pen features
Quad Core processor
2GB RAM (WP8 1GB only and yea u dont need it)
16GB internal (Expandable up to 64GB)
Real multitasking
TONS of accessories ( 1 week ago many shop i went dont even sell screen protector for lumia)
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Front facing camera
Viber supports voice call and messaging ( windowsphone only got message)
High demand ( I was asking how much to trade in lumia now is about 600-800 for lumia 900)
The phone is heck of light compare to lumia
2.1AMP charger full charge a 3100MAH note 2 battery in 2-3 hours from empty.

S-Voice or Google voice understandings me 60% accurately. Windowsphone voice command understand me 10% only

Wolfson audio chip ( It sound so amazing when i plug my Nokia Monster Headset WH930 on the note 2 it sounds alot better than plug into a lumia =.="

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Actually I think its a natural progression of a device.  Its better for them to focus on hardware, and let software eco system to grow on their own.  The problem is that Nokia chose Win OS instead of others. 

While they may have problem with the OS initially, they will let the Microsoft to handle software tweak from now on.  it save them time and resources. 

My guess is that after the start of this win8, nokia may focus on dedicated tweak on win8 to run their specific hardware resources.  So its not impossible for them to introduce winOS that recognise pureview 41MPix camera in due course.
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I do agree with that, as this is their last chance and also last dance. We ain't want another fruit product which MS tries to rebrand their OS in disguise (restrictions and limitation), but i think they have adopt this nature since they foresee the fruit's revenue. If this don't work out of them... I really doubt that the pureview 41Mpix in win8 might just end up becoming a prototype doh.gif ...hopefully not...

Android is now what "symbian" should have really involve into... surpassing the "freedom" what symbian can offer way back then. And it is from every espect, from hardware specs, market's unlimited software & games (quality), wide multimedia coverage (camera & video shot, video & audio playback) , OS software updates, insane rate of accessories availability. They really got everything covered to make most users cash out their money on their gadgets. smile.gif
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Lol now only aware of so many typos from my previous post,i hate typing on phone -.-

I think even IF WP8 turned out being successful, they will still unable to catch back throne of phone industry since samsung also taking wp8 alongside with Android, how to compete lol
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I guess they forget something important, why should people switch from their current OS which they're already comfortable, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, they already invested their $$$ on the apps. Switching platform means loosing almost everything.
What's a good reason to switch?
Is WP good enough? For simplicity, smoothness, no fancy homescreen, customization, there's iOS.
For cuztomization, flexibility, power, choices, etc. there's Android.
Where will WP8 stand? Current WP7.5 stand more like alongside with iOS, it's no competition for Android.
At least Symbian offers customization, flexibility, but the OS features itself lacking far behind.

Even if WP8 really become successful, there's another BIG Question: Why Nokia?
With it's current state, people are loosing their hope, trust, confidence. You go to any malls, you used to see Nokia here, Nokia there, now it's Samseng here and Samseng there.
Samseng triumphs PaiKia (aka Nokia)
Why Samseng is so successful, all thanks to PaiKia, most of their users are from PaiKia, converted to Samseng.
Choosing WP is their biggest mistake.

Can they climb back up now that they're at the very bottom? As a user/customer, of course I do, it's good to see more competition and also Nokia coming back up. But it seems they're getting worst everyday at fast pace.
You go to the mall, you see Samseng store is crowded and full, and Nokia Store, seems always can even hear mosquito sound... ok, that exaggeration, but you can see the big difference, and many people who visit Nokia Store are those still loyal to Nokia brand that aren't really looking for a smartphone or doesn't really know much about smartphone thing. Some may buy the Lumia, but how many of them will "stay"?
The worst thing that could happen is for them to find out the problem and weakness of Lumia (or WP) and then give up. Now they have a bad impression on Lumia (or WP), and this is not a good thing. Just as how people are disappointed and given up Symbian, will they want to "re-try" or give 2nd chance to Symbian again next time? Take the risk? Why should they?

QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 01:20 PM)
Android is quite refined now to be honest, and there comes "lime pie?" (the newest version of android to be announced on 29th oct).. they will get much more better :/
my bro and sis got their s3 and I'm kinda jealous, the games with superb graphics and apps that facilitate daily tasks (symbian and even WP platform still lacking far behind imo) kills me badly >.>

I think we might finally be able to take android as great symbian replacement in current state; some might argue that symbian runs smoothly on single core and having good battery life, etc,. but imo...
does it even matter anymore especially note2 has now proven superb multitasking and great battery life can be done on this power hogger OS?

as a Nokia fan, i can either pray for Nokia to adopt android after contract with microsoft ended or I shouldn't really trapped myself with brand of "nokia" anymore (hard earn money need to spend more wisely eh)
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During S2 era, it was OK already.
In you say Symbian replacement, it's already a great replacement for Symbian since quite long ago.

You can honestly consider Samseng S3 or Note2 (if you don't mind the size). Been using SEX Pro for some time, honestly speaking, Sony's version Android a failure and their older devices lacks of RAM and internal storage, was a horrible experience. For Android, make sure you get a decent spec hardware with enough internal storage for apps, micro-SD support and RAM.
Besides in term of OS, Samseng did much better than Sony, in default stock mode, there's many shortcuts in the drop down menu, there's S-Voice, there's many nice and useful feature I wished it was available on the Sony.
Image quality, it may not be as good as 808 PureView, but in terms of usability, it's actually much better, it's faster and more responsive, image quality is decent and very good for mobile phone category.

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I guess they forget something important, why should people switch from their current OS which they're already comfortable, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, they already invested their $$$ on the apps. Switching platform means loosing almost everything.
What's a good reason to switch?
Is WP good enough? For simplicity, smoothness, no fancy homescreen, customization, there's iOS.
For cuztomization, flexibility, power, choices, etc. there's Android.
Where will WP8 stand? Current WP7.5 stand more like alongside with iOS, it's no competition for Android.
At least Symbian offers customization, flexibility, but the OS features itself lacking far behind.

Even if WP8 really become successful, there's another BIG Question: Why Nokia?
With it's current state, people are loosing their hope, trust, confidence. You go to any malls, you used to see Nokia here, Nokia there, now it's Samseng here and Samseng there.
Samseng triumphs PaiKia (aka Nokia)
Why Samseng is so successful, all thanks to PaiKia, most of their users are from PaiKia, converted to Samseng.
Choosing WP is their biggest mistake.

Can they climb back up now that they're at the very bottom? As a user/customer, of course I do, it's good to see more competition and also Nokia coming back up. But it seems they're getting worst everyday at fast pace.
You go to the mall, you see Samseng store is crowded and full, and Nokia Store, seems always can even hear mosquito sound... ok, that exaggeration, but you can see the big difference, and many people who visit Nokia Store are those still loyal to Nokia brand that aren't really looking for a smartphone or doesn't really know much about smartphone thing. Some may buy the Lumia, but how many of them will "stay"?
The worst thing that could happen is for them to find out the problem and weakness of Lumia (or WP) and then give up. Now they have a bad impression on Lumia (or WP), and this is not a good thing. Just as how people are disappointed and given up Symbian, will they want to "re-try" or give 2nd chance to  Symbian again next time? Take the risk? Why should they?
During S2 era, it was OK already.
In you say Symbian replacement, it's already a great replacement for Symbian since quite long ago.

You can honestly consider Samseng S3 or Note2 (if you don't mind the size). Been using SEX Pro for some time, honestly speaking, Sony's version Android a failure and their older devices lacks of RAM and internal storage, was a horrible experience. For Android, make sure you get a decent spec hardware with enough internal storage for apps, micro-SD support and RAM.
Besides in term of OS, Samseng did much better than Sony, in default stock mode, there's many shortcuts in the drop down menu, there's S-Voice, there's many nice and useful feature I wished it was available on the Sony.
Image quality, it may not be as good as 808 PureView, but in terms of usability, it's actually much better, it's faster and more responsive, image quality is decent and very good for mobile phone category.
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Android is now what "symbian" should have really involve into... surpassing the "freedom" what symbian can offer way back then. And it is from every espect, from hardware specs, market's unlimited software & games (quality), wide multimedia coverage (camera & video shot, video & audio playback) , OS software updates, insane rate of accessories availability. They really got everything covered to make most users cash out their money on their gadgets. smile.gif
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Actually Nokia have such OS... it's called Maemo, which then become MeeGo after they partner with Intel.
If you have used Maemo, it could easily surpass Android. Don't talk about MeeGo, although it's nice, it's like a more slimmed down or simplified version of Maemo with many features missing.
While some may say, it's not necessary, etc. the key point is let user decide and choose, let them customize what they want. But giving a simplified version with features missing means, the thing is no longer available, you can't have it anymore. BUT, if having the feature, one can turn it off in options and customize to their preference.

I'm still having the N900, sometimes when I use it, I still feel it's better than the S3 especially the web browsing experience, nothing can beat that to date. To think that it's only a A8-600Mhz with 256MB physical memory device, yet it's performing exceptionally well and smooth.

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Actually Nokia have such OS... it's called Maemo, which then become MeeGo after they partner with Intel.
If you have used Maemo, it could easily surpass Android. Don't talk about MeeGo, although it's nice, it's like a more slimmed down or simplified version of Maemo with many features missing.
While some may say, it's not necessary, etc. the key point is let user decide and choose, let them customize what they want. But giving a simplified version with features missing means, the thing is no longer available, you can't have it anymore. BUT, if having the feature, one can turn it off in options and customize to their preference.

I'm still having the N900, sometimes when I use it, I still feel it's better than the S3 especially the web browsing experience, nothing can beat that to date. To think that it's only a A8-600Mhz with 256MB physical memory device, yet it's performing exceptionally well and smooth.
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Yup. I do know Maemo, only advantages on OS doesn't really fill in the gap in modern era, or to say, it is not completing the whole mobile experience. You can only look for developer's limited software eco, and its even makes the market harder to get their accessories to complement the experience when the phone is not going to sell well.

Back then optimization is treated with real respect (Andy214: N900 was one of the good example, well performed phone in limited choice of hardware & technology on its era notworthy.gif ), now, only of hardware components matters most (at least in Android universe, others are catching up, and only the top dogs will get it), making the same principle as modern gaming rig. If you can't play the game well, blame it on the hardware doh.gif

I agree that letting the user to decide on features/options/customization was the right way to go, after all, we are the ones that going to use the phones after all icon_rolleyes.gif

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Yup. I do know Maemo, only advantages on OS doesn't really fill in the gap in modern era, or to say, it is not completing the whole mobile experience. You can only look for developer's limited software eco, and its even makes the market harder to get their accessories to complement the experience when the phone is not going to sell well.

Back then optimization is treated with real respect (Andy214: N900 was one of the good example, well performed phone in limited choice of hardware & technology on its era notworthy.gif ), now, only of hardware components matters most (at least in Android universe, others are catching up, and only the top dogs will get it), making the same principle as modern gaming rig. If you can't play the game well, blame it on the hardware  doh.gif

I agree that letting the user to decide on features/options/customization was the right way to go, after all, we are the ones that going to use the phones after all icon_rolleyes.gif

Andy214: Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro in short was real eyecatching there cool2.gif
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What kind of mobile experience?
If Software Eco, Nokia should work hard and push, bring softwares over, etc.
The one main reason Maemo didn't do well is because the lack of apps/games in market (or Nokia Store), although there's tons of apps actually available.
Plus, it was the first tablet smartphone (previous Maemo has no phone functionality), and it doesn't have capacitive touch screen. If Nokia had work on it and bring in more developers, apps/games, come up with more competitive hardware, I'm sure it will be a success.

Using the N900 back, it was the only smartphone with full flash, it's the only smartphone you can surf Facebook in Desktop mode like a real Desktop, you can activate mouse cursor on web browser and do mouse-required operations, multi-tasking is a breeze and so easy and convenient. In short, using the N900 back then it's like having a mini laptop/netbook in hand. With smartphones today, even the great Galaxy Note, it can't give this similar experience because it's still lacking in terms of multi-tasking, web browsing experience, etc.

Haha, the SEX Pro was used in SEX Pro thread and also among my colleagues/friends, we prefer to use "alternate" names, haha. e.g. I've just converted/join Samseng "kia", hey, we got new Samseng "poh", etc.
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What kind of mobile experience?
If Software Eco, Nokia should work hard and push, bring softwares over, etc.
The one main reason Maemo didn't do well is because the lack of apps/games in market (or Nokia Store), although there's tons of apps actually available.
Plus, it was the first tablet smartphone (previous Maemo has no phone functionality), and it doesn't have capacitive touch screen. If Nokia had work on it and bring in more developers, apps/games, come up with more competitive hardware, I'm sure it will be a success.

Using the N900 back, it was the only smartphone with full flash, it's the only smartphone you can surf Facebook in Desktop mode like a real Desktop, you can activate mouse cursor on web browser and do mouse-required operations, multi-tasking is a breeze and so easy and convenient. In short, using the N900 back then it's like having a mini laptop/netbook in hand. With smartphones today, even the great Galaxy Note, it can't give this similar experience because it's still lacking in terms of multi-tasking, web browsing experience, etc.

Haha, the SEX Pro was used in SEX Pro thread and also among my colleagues/friends, we prefer to use "alternate" names, haha. e.g. I've just converted/join Samseng "kia", hey, we got new Samseng "poh", etc.
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Seems you have answered most of the mobile experience that was missing from N900:) From casual to serious user, they wont able to taste the true power of the phone (ex: the phone might able to do OTG for serious gamers to play on real gamepad for gaming, in accessories category, and to enhance the gaming experience) These are the few phones that are DOA from the start as test lab rats,ex: N900 & N9, without proper software market segment and user centric in the first place (Due to both are new platforms, they have to rework the codings & optimization, really time consuming).

Android know about the weakness that you mention, but they are coming real strong on that, from officials and the xda's. I understand the comparison, as on some aspect, ex: android wont able to record full hd video even on single core with GPU, where 808 already excels there (4x lossless zoom somemore^^), but i'm not sure a 41mp photo can be handle in dual/quad core android beast, someone can give a hand here?)

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Seems you have answered most of the mobile experience that was missing from N900:) From casual to serious user, they wont able to taste the true power of the phone (ex: the phone might able to do OTG for serious gamers to play on real gamepad for gaming, in accessories category, and to enhance the gaming experience) These are the few phones that are DOA from the start as test lab rats,ex: N900 & N9, without proper software market segment and user centric in the first place (Due to both are new platforms, they have to rework the codings & optimization, really time consuming).

Android know about the weakness that you mention, but they are coming real strong on that, from officials and the xda's. I understand the comparison, as on some aspect, ex: android wont able to record full hd video even on single core with GPU, where 808 already excels there (4x lossless zoom somemore^^), but i'm not sure a 41mp photo can be handle in dual/quad core android beast, someone can give a hand here?)

Hopefully 808 can stay with me for awhile longer smile.gif

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Yea, too bad Nokia didn't emphasize and put in enough effort to bring in the developers for Maemo/MeeGo platform, it's even worst than Symbian. The potential is there.... just too bad...

As for 808 PureView, there are dedicated image processor for it right?
Just too bad for Nokia they didn't choose to adopt Android, else they can go multi-platform, continue offering Symbians for those who are still on Symbian, and they can also work on Maemo/MeeGo. They key point here is to make their Nokia Store app purchase available ACROSS platforms as long as they stay within Nokia devices (e.g. Samsung store for Android). So, their Symbian users can one day switch to their Android platform while maintaining their purchases (based on the apps available), thus this way, they can also maintain their existing users better. A Nokia user can have a Nokia Android Tablet, a Nokia MeeGo smartphone, but the apps are available through Nokia Store. Of course, this is something Nokia have to work on and the apps to be available, but will be an advantage for Nokia.
If they have chosen multi-platform and adopted Android, high chances are they'll still be No. 1 spot and probably doing well.

Anyway, albeit 808 is doing better than previous Symbian series and the camera performance is much faster, but comparing to S3 or even N9, it's not as fast in terms of capture, probably due to the pixel oversampling processing. With N9, I can keep tapping capture and it will capture and save, with slight delay, while on the S3, you can just keep tapping and there's no delay like it's not doing any processing or saving any image, and that's on Power Saving mode on S3. For quick capture and ease of use, S3 is definitely much more responsive and nice to use. Image quality wise 808 is better but then most people won't pixel peep to see the overall details.


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big wave only happen during 5800xm then N8... now it's fading....
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big wave only happen during 5800xm then N8... now it's fading....
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Seems Avaxx already hands on Lumia 820 and 920.

I think Nokia Malaysia might do big even for this 2 phone. After all, the've been quiet for some time and this is like their important point.

Still not sure how is WP8, if still tons of restriction and limitations, I have no idea how it want to compete. For such OS, there is already one that's more famous, iOS. People who want flexibility, customization, power, etc. most likely won't even want to look at it. They need to bring the real Windows back onto smartphone.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 23 2012, 05:26 PM)
Seems Avaxx already hands on Lumia 820 and 920.

I think Nokia Malaysia might do big even for this 2 phone. After all, the've been quiet for some time and this is like their important point.

Still not sure how is WP8, if still tons of restriction and limitations, I have no idea how it want to compete. For such OS, there is already one that's more famous, iOS. People who want flexibility, customization, power, etc. most likely won't even want to look at it. They need to bring the real Windows back onto smartphone.
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what so difficult to compete??? lower the cost of ownership will do!! rclxms.gif

if it's selling >RM1,800 for the L920 and >RM1,300 for L820 see any monkey will get it or not... whistling.gif

I will rather settle down with GN2 or S3 with plan better... yawn.gif
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what so difficult to compete??? lower the cost of ownership will do!!  rclxms.gif

if it's selling >RM1,800 for the L920 and >RM1,300 for L820 see any monkey will get it or not...  whistling.gif

I will rather settle down with GN2 or S3 with plan better...  yawn.gif
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If WP8 is restricted and limited like WP7.5, then even they sell RM1K for L920, not sure how many people will buy. Maybe those WP fans/lovers will buy it over other brands, or those don't mind those restrictions and limitations (or willing to give up their current more flexible, more customizable OS phone).

Sad to say, I didn't even use the L900 last time. No different than L800, even L800 also use for a short while only for review purpose. Passed around to those people to try, there more negative comments than good comments, other than smooth and fast, what really is there? If people only care about smoothness and fast, there is iOS and it has tons of apps/games and can be JB easily.

The problem is not Nokia but Microsoft's WP.
Not sure how is WP8, just can hope it's good and not like WP7.5, but there's a lot need to change from WP7.5.
They gotta bring the real Windows back into their smartphone, not another Zune Media Player.



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Actually WP7.5 is more restricted than ios but without the apps. There are also lot's of unnecessary restrictions. For example those who register their age as less than 18 in the setup are not allowed to download any apps, even free ones. Why I do not know. To my knowledge there are no content in the app store that <18 y.o. can't handle.

Those using prepaid have a problem with WP7.5 as it cannot handle USSD codes. Nokia support recommends that they swap their SIM to a dumb phone, perform USSD transactions and swap back to their not-so-smart Lumia.

The wi-fi disconnects when the phone sleeps so any background updates, notifications or instant messages will use 3G or stop working. Too bad if you don't have 3G and need push email

There are many, many other usability issues with WP7.5 which show that this OS is still very rough and jagged. WP8 may improve on it but it will still be playing catch up with Symbian, ios and Android. Although Microsoft promise that WP8 will be able to run WP7 apps this remains to be seen as there are major changes in OS kernel, programming language, processor architecture and resolution. Frankly I have my doubts as even minor upgrades of an OS can break some apps.

As for the Lumia 920 it will be priced higher than Galaxy S3 and just under an iphone 5. The 820 will be priced about the same as a Galaxy S3. Good luck to Nokia!
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 06:05 PM)
Indeed, S2 was already enough to be called as symbian replacement, but it's still not as impressive as today's device (sgs3 or sgnote2). My sister had one sgs2 previously, and the battery performance is nightmare (and that's one factor i used to laugh at my sis and boast the efficiency of symbian to her LOL)
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Yup, S2 has it's ups an down, I guess that was sort of like the beginning point, or turning point where it started to popular and S3 being very successful, in fact, it's very good. Many iPhone users actually switch to S3, I know some iPhone users which is very particular and supported Apple products all the while, they're impressed by the smoothness and speed, at the same time discovering what they have been missing out when they're been stuck inside Apple's small little world without those flexibilities, customizations, etc.

QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 23 2012, 06:05 PM)
Samsung is taking android as if it's their own brewed OS, that's why they're so successful.. non-techy consumers wouldn't even know it's running the same core android as other phone manufacturers because it's too much of different, i had to salute them for putting so much of effort into that (but still boo for plasticky phone's built lolololol)
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I think S3 felt much better build and solid than S2. I recall when I first carry S2, it felt really fragile, but S3 felt much more solid on hands.
And it's really light.

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LOL so if you were to choose only one of them, which will you choose? tongue.gif
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Between Note2 and S3?
I like the S-Pen, but I don't want such big phone, I think max for me will be 5".
Even the S3 felt big, but still OK. Just too bad the S3 can't utilize the S-Pen.

QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 24 2012, 12:43 PM)
Actually WP7.5 is more restricted than ios but without the apps. There are also lot's of unnecessary restrictions. For example those who register their age as less than 18 in the setup are not allowed to download any apps, even free ones. Why I do not know. To my knowledge there are no content in the app store that <18 y.o. can't handle.

Those using prepaid have a problem with WP7.5 as it cannot handle USSD codes. Nokia support recommends that they swap their SIM to a dumb phone, perform USSD transactions and swap back to their not-so-smart Lumia.

The wi-fi disconnects when the phone sleeps so any background updates, notifications or instant messages will use 3G or stop working. Too bad if you don't have 3G and need push email

There are many, many other usability issues with WP7.5 which show that this OS is still very rough and jagged. WP8 may improve on it but it will still be playing catch up with Symbian, ios and Android. Although Microsoft promise that WP8 will be able to run WP7 apps this remains to be seen as there are major changes in OS kernel, programming language, processor architecture and resolution. Frankly I have my doubts as even minor upgrades of an OS can break some apps.

As for the Lumia 920 it will be priced higher than Galaxy S3 and just under an iphone 5. The 820 will be priced about the same as a Galaxy S3. Good luck to Nokia!
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For Symbian, seems many apps and games missing for 808 PureView and still not yet available to date. It was available on N8 previously.
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MeeGo has only about 2000 useful apps but you can find all of the above and much more. It's not quantity but quality that counts.


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Continue spam tongue.gif - Window 8's launch and state of the app store doh.gif

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012830/win...ial-review.html

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Why 808 Pureview page becomes Window Phone OS discussion ?  shakehead.gif

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Continue spam  tongue.gif  - Window 8's launch and state of the app store  doh.gif

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2012830/win...ial-review.html

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/news/analys...ndows-8-launch/
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 26 2012, 09:03 PM)
I strongly advise you not to get a 920 or any other WP. Even a Nokia N8 has a better camera than the 920 and runs an OS which is much more usable and feature rich than WP7.5. In fact WP7.5 is so far behind Symbian Belle that I can safely say that WP8 will still be playing catch-up.
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Hahaha, Kenny also come over here. But yeah, here more meriah, N9 thread more quiet tongue.gif
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Hahaha, Kenny also come over here. But yeah, here more meriah, N9 thread more quiet  tongue.gif
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N9 thread sometimes only 1-2 posts a day. The phone still good but community already quiet. Andy also never drop by N9 thread now.
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N9 thread sometimes only 1-2 posts a day. The phone still good but community already quiet. Andy also never drop by N9 thread now.
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Since no topic, they're discussing on Android games on N9. Since already have Android, so didn't bother lo, tongue.gif
zachary seems also got Note2, but he's still energetic to try on N9 thumbup.gif


QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 28 2012, 07:03 PM)
saw sifu andy appear in android forum section
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Hehe, already jump to Android (SEX Pro, Sony Ericsion Xperia Pro) since early of the year... wanted qwerty, but big mistake... too little internal storage for apps, not enough RAM, EPIC fail... Cannot tahan already SEX Pro, no longer sexy and no longer Pro, switch and become a Samseng, a lot better... Samseng more considerate with so many shortcut available through pull down menu, S-Voice, and some other nice-to-have features.
But still find 1GB RAM is not enough... Android is too "smart" decide to load your apps for faster access even though you won't or will not access it wasting your memory and decides to kill your apps while you multi-task, or suddenly your Skype gets closed.

Your also got a Note 2 right? hehe
How's 2GB Ram on Android? Did those apps get closed automatically even with 2GB ram?
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wa andriod sounds so nice...might consider jump after change my important gears =x

because i liek waze lol.
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wa andriod sounds so nice...might consider jump after change my important gears =x

because i liek waze lol.
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but spend on other things as well like printing cost for artworks =x
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 29 2012, 10:46 AM)
Got drop by, but never post only  tongue.gif
Since no topic, they're discussing on Android games on N9. Since already have Android, so didn't bother lo,  tongue.gif
zachary seems also got Note2, but he's still energetic to try on N9  thumbup.gif
Hehe, already jump to Android (SEX Pro, Sony Ericsion Xperia Pro) since early of the year... wanted qwerty, but big mistake... too little internal storage for apps, not enough RAM, EPIC fail... Cannot tahan already SEX Pro, no longer sexy and no longer Pro, switch and become a Samseng, a lot better... Samseng more considerate with so many shortcut available through pull down menu, S-Voice, and some other nice-to-have features.
But still find 1GB RAM is not enough... Android is too "smart" decide to load your apps for faster access even though you won't or will not access it wasting your memory and decides to kill your apps while you multi-task, or suddenly your Skype gets closed. 

Your also got a Note 2 right? hehe
How's 2GB Ram on Android? Did those apps get closed automatically even with 2GB ram?
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Never really like to use android until note 2

S-voice never use i was using the google one quite accurate for asian compare to iOS
S-pen - Love the handwriting and many commands for shortcuts
Screen - 5.5 inch just nice for me not too big not too small lazy to bring my ipad 3 out
Battery - 3100mah this the first phone i use intensively that able to last me 10 hours on 3G network. moderate can last 1 day , seldom use 2 days on a single charge

Wolfson audio chip - When i plug my note 2 to my monster headset WH930 the sound is amazing.
Quad core processor and 2GB ram - experience minimum lag but still cant beat WP and IOS smoothness but its real time multitasking

Light Notification - Can change to all kinds of colour from white, blue, red, orange, yellow, green and etc

Camera - errr you know its the usual answer BADDDDDDDDDD
Choice to open - When you open specifiy link or apps or files it gives u various choice to choose like instagram link i can open with instagram website or instagram app.

Connectivity - The wifi/3G coverage is superb places my other device low signal this device still got average coverage

Dual MIC - last time i talk softly on my lumia ppl cannot hear me but on note 2 surprisingly people can hear

Multi view - able to multi task with two windows



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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 29 2012, 11:17 AM)
wa andriod sounds so nice...might consider jump after change my important gears =x

because i liek waze lol.
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too bad it sux tongue.gif

on my 808, 3 times it locked up the phone...have to remove batt to reboot...after that i got irritated and uninstalled it.
also waze eats battery like nobody's business.


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Wolfson audio chip - When i plug my note 2 to my monster headset WH930 the sound is amazing.
Quad core processor and 2GB ram - experience minimum lag but still cant beat WP and IOS smoothness but its real time multitasking

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Does it sound as good as a N9 or better? Music is a big deal with me and the S3 (which I have an eye on) also has a Wolfson chip.
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But with wolfson audio chip i was amazed of the bass and clarity.



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N9 thread sometimes only 1-2 posts a day. The phone still good but community already quiet. Andy also never drop by N9 thread now.
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Yeah, I also come here more, although I use my N9 far more than my 808. Here got nice2 photos that all these sifus upload. Give me some idea of what setting to use to take what pic  biggrin.gif
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Nokia N9 on monster headset sound average like very creamy feeling. Tested di.

But with wolfson audio chip i was amazed of the bass and clarity.
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Thanks for the sifus comments smile.gif it was on early stage with mind set of taking clean picture with adding abit of wow factor, without needing photoshop for touch up. Agreed that the last pic was over-contrasted tongue.gif Still on learning phase. I will try another sets of shooting without much of the wow factor next time:)

As for audio, aside for n91. Usually all audio output is more or less the same (Nokia set is still good in producing natural audio) . For those on Bass & treble, early stages of SE Walkman series simply blows the competition out of the water with their Mega Bass settings & HPM70 earpiece (the 1st that brought in in-ear type earpiece to mobile business i guess)

Couldn't agree more that wolfson audio chip was that good, if with a nice headset to match:)

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haha nope never seen it reach 2GB. Usually about 1.4GB ram used FREE 600MB
Never really like to use android until note 2

S-voice never use i was using the google one quite accurate for asian compare to iOS
S-pen - Love the handwriting and many commands for shortcuts
Screen - 5.5 inch just nice for me not too big not too small lazy to bring my ipad 3 out
Battery - 3100mah this the first phone i use intensively that able to last me 10 hours on 3G network. moderate can last 1 day , seldom use 2 days on a single charge

Wolfson audio chip - When i plug my note 2 to my monster headset WH930 the sound is amazing.
Quad core processor and 2GB ram - experience minimum lag but still cant beat WP and IOS smoothness but its real time multitasking

Light Notification - Can change to all kinds of colour from white, blue, red, orange, yellow, green and etc

Camera - errr you know its the usual answer BADDDDDDDDDD
Choice to open - When you open specifiy link or apps or files it gives u various choice to choose like instagram link i can open with instagram website or instagram app.

Connectivity - The wifi/3G coverage is superb places my other device low signal this device still got average coverage

Dual MIC - last time i talk softly on my lumia ppl cannot hear me but on note 2 surprisingly people can hear

Multi view - able to multi task with two windows
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That's cool... makes me drool for S3 2GB version now... Current 1GB really not enough, can't really multi-task properly, when you go back to browser, it refreshed and restarted. Well, for one, I prefer browsing Desktop version, but then Maemo was able to handle it well, even with multiple browser window open browsing full desktop sites, and that's only with 256MB physical ram.

For smoothness, it's not a must to be super smooth. For those who use computer, should know that it depends on how you use lo, if you don't install anything and remain stock, little apps, no background service, etc. even sure smooth like butter. If you want to multi-task, the should know that it will affect the performance.
I'm more concern about the ability to multi-task and how well it provide true multi-tasking experience. To date, nothing can beat Maemo and MeeGo yet. Maemo is so convenient, just tap the small button you go to Multi-Task window and you can easily switch between other window.

Oh, did you enjoy the video gallery? brows.gif

Camera part, the quality is OK, can't really compare with 808; but for most people, the S3 or Note2 Camera is very good already, it's very easy and fast, especially the burst, it let's me capture the moment better (plus, in lowlight, with burst, you can get sharp photos without blur due to shake), and also the HDR mode works well.

For image quality and high MP, still sticking back to 808, but I end up use both to capture, LoL, end up spend more time to capture one thing tongue.gif

Yup, the Wi-Fi is better than all other smartphones I used before so far, able to connect when others cannot detect. But Android still not able to connect to ad-hoc connection....

Btw, did you get the S3??? Saw you post something in S3 thread.


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Does it sound as good as a N9 or better? Music is a big deal with me and the S3 (which I have an eye on) also has a Wolfson chip.
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I thought you gotten the S3, saw you post something there.

If you don't mind AP set, suggest you to go for the i9305 (when the price become more reasonable). 1GB Ram isn't really enough if you want to really multi-task.

The audio part, GSMArena gives excellent review.

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Btw, did you get the S3??? Saw you post something in S3 thread.
I thought you gotten the S3, saw you post something there.

If you don't mind AP set, suggest you to go for the i9305 (when the price become more reasonable). 1GB Ram isn't really enough if you want to really multi-task.

The audio part, GSMArena gives excellent review.
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No, I haven't got the S3 yet. Thinking about it but probably won't make a move until next year. I still prefer N9 multitasking and being able to close apps with a swipe or let apps remain open. Closing apps is a pain in Android. Sometimes the back button closes it, sometimes it doesn't. N9 also never give me this restart nonsense when I go back to a background app.

But S3 has a bigger screen and more APPS. For MeeGo I think the store will be more or less stagnant from now on. Unwilling to move but also forced to move unless want to be stuck with in a dead end OS.



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No, I haven't got the S3 yet. Thinking about it but probably won't make a move until next year. I still prefer N9 multitasking and being able to close apps with a swipe or let apps remain open. Closing apps is a pain in Android. Sometimes the back button closes it, sometimes it doesn't. N9 also never give me this restart nonsense when I go back to a background app.

But S3 has a bigger screen and more APPS. For MeeGo I think the store will be more or less stagnant from now on. Unwilling to move but also forced to move unless want to be stuck with in a dead end OS.
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If you're getting Android or S3, try to go for the 2GB ram version. I saw review they comparing S3 US (2GB) and One X, the reviewer practically have the apps open for like 1 week and it seems the app doesn't restart or being killed.
In Android, switching to multi-tasking is not so convenient, you need to press and hold the menu button (well, particularly for Samseng as other brand have different button layout already). Still, it cannot beat Maemo/MeeGo.

Android got many useful APPS which is widely use nowadays and there're many choices of browsers with Full Flash support. Now it only lacks some ability like activating mouse cursor for some special operation. Was able to do that with Maemo and somehow Maemo browser render web page better, more PC like and feel.

Symbian is falling way far behind in this, but for simple mobile web browsing there's not much to complain about.


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If you're getting Android or S3, try to go for the 2GB ram version. I saw review they comparing S3 US (2GB) and One X, the reviewer practically have the apps open for like 1 week and it seems the app doesn't restart or being killed.
In Android, switching to multi-tasking is not so convenient, you need to press and hold the menu button (well, particularly for Samseng as other brand have different button layout already). Still, it cannot beat Maemo/MeeGo.

Android got many useful APPS which is widely use nowadays and there're many choices of browsers with Full Flash support. Now it only lacks some ability like activating mouse cursor for some special operation. Was able to do that with Maemo and somehow Maemo browser render web page better, more PC like and feel.

Symbian is falling way far behind in this, but for simple mobile web browsing there's not much to complain about.
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If you're getting Android or S3, try to go for the 2GB ram version. I saw review they comparing S3 US (2GB) and One X, the reviewer practically have the apps open for like 1 week and it seems the app doesn't restart or being killed.
In Android, switching to multi-tasking is not so convenient, you need to press and hold the menu button (well, particularly for Samseng as other brand have different button layout already). Still, it cannot beat Maemo/MeeGo.

Android got many useful APPS which is widely use nowadays and there're many choices of browsers with Full Flash support. Now it only lacks some ability like activating mouse cursor for some special operation. Was able to do that with Maemo and somehow Maemo browser render web page better, more PC like and feel.

Symbian is falling way far behind in this, but for simple mobile web browsing there's not much to complain about.
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2GB RAM version of S3? Got here meh?

Android is improving all the time. Android 2.1.2 has multisplit screen to run different apps in each screen. Android 4.2 has just been announced. But MeeGo's multitasking still cannot be beaten.

One problem with Android is the lateness of getting OS updates from manufacturer. It can take 9 months for a major version change and 6 months for a version upgrade like 4.0 to 4.1.1.

Symbian like MeeGo is already dead end and won't be improved anymore. Resolution is stuck at 640x480. App store is stagnant as developers have run away. Like Bada it is a sunset OS.

Ios too many restrictions. Don't even get me started on WP7. Tizen, BB10 and Jolla too risky. I'm not going to buy into another new OS and wait hopefully for apps. Bitten once by Bada and again by MeeGo. Twice is enough!

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2GB RAM version of S3? Got here meh?

Android is improving all the time. Android 2.1.2 has multisplit screen to run different apps in each screen. Android 4.2 has just been announced. But MeeGo's multitasking still cannot be beaten.

One problem with Android is the lateness of getting OS updates from manufacturer. It can take 9 months for a major version change and 6 months for a version upgrade like 4.0 to 4.1.1.

Symbian like MeeGo is already dead end and won't be improved anymore. Resolution is stuck at 640x480.  App store is stagnant as developers have run away. Like Bada it is a sunset OS.

Ios too many restrictions. Don't even get me started on WP7. Tizen, BB10 and Jolla too risky. I'm not going to buy into another new OS and wait hopefully for apps. Bitten once by Bada and again by MeeGo. Twice is enough!
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Only AP set, i9305 LTE version. But just available I think last week and the price is very expensive at the moment.

If you want fast update, I think can go for the Nexus 4. But it lacks micro-SD support. If that's not a problem for you, then it's the best choice now? It comes with 2GB Ram.

iOS and WP7 doesn't belong to smartphone category for me, so I won't even want to consider or look at them. How can a mobile computer phone missing mobile computer function in the first place, how does it quality as a mobile computer.
Just like a sports performance car, if it's big like MPV, no power, how can you STILL call it a performance sports car.

Jolla... would have to wait and see.

As of current, only Android "still" able to offer a proper smartphone experience and with all the apps and games.
Windows Mobile has flopped/downgraded into "mediaphone" category, no idea about Windows Phone 8.
Symbian not going anywhere since quite long ago.

I can't imagine if desktop computers also become restricted and lock down one day like Windows Phone. It's just plain dumb.


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Only AP set, i9305 LTE version. But just available I think last week and the price is very expensive at the moment.

If you want fast update, I think can go for the Nexus 4. But it lacks micro-SD support. If that's not a problem for you, then it's the best choice now? It comes with 2GB Ram.
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.


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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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Kids corner is a God sent feature. I have exactly the same problem with handphone being used by my kid and they keep calling up people by mistake. And the next thing the apps icons are all over the place. They need a safe corner to play their own thing.

This WP8 is not bad I gotta admit. Now it depends on the available apps to make it work.
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Kids corner is a God sent feature.  I have exactly the same problem with handphone being used by my kid and they keep calling up people by mistake.  And the next thing the apps icons are all over the place.  They need a safe corner to play their own thing. 

This WP8 is not bad I gotta admit.  Now it depends on the available apps to make it work.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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Haha they are funny. Some forumer said blue tooth transfer with nfc. Nothing much new. Not worth to make 920 my next phone except if its 1.5k below

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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It has bluetooth file transfer, pay a visit on blogjack (HK based nokia fan blog), they posted two articles pertaining bluetooth file transfer smile.gif
they basically demonstrated files transfer between android and WP, including contact, website and picture i guess
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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It can never catch up or compete with Android is it never offer proper smartphone features, as in a proper mobile computer. If it remain restriction, locked on, rely on Zune, limited access to files/format, etc. It'll just remain as another media player category OS. It can never fullfill the needs of people who're used to and looking for a mobile computer phone.

I just can't imagine if our Desktop PC will become like this one day.


QUOTE(peter32 @ Oct 30 2012, 02:19 PM)
Kids corner is a God sent feature.  I have exactly the same problem with handphone being used by my kid and they keep calling up people by mistake.  And the next thing the apps icons are all over the place.  They need a safe corner to play their own thing. 

This WP8 is not bad I gotta admit.  Now it depends on the available apps to make it work.
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Actually this kind of feature can be easily implemented especially on FLEXIBLE and OPEN OS. It's just that they come up with this idea first; just like Driving Mode, they can provide more modes like Kids Mode, etc.
The key point here is, with flexible and open OS, it can be designed to let the user customize their very OWN mode, just like Symbian profiles or Accounts in Windows, so we can restrict what specific account can do (e.g. ability to purchase apps in App Store).

App icons all over the place is not much of a big deal... my daugther actually go and uninstall my apps on iPod Touch, gone are not just the apps but also the game saves. Another problem is, they like to press physical button, so they will press the HOME button, or Windows Button, thus jumps out of the game.


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It has bluetooth file transfer, pay a visit on blogjack (HK based nokia fan blog), they posted two articles pertaining bluetooth file transfer smile.gif
they basically demonstrated files transfer between android and WP, including contact, website and picture i guess
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GSMArena also did mentioned File Transfer is finally available.

But not really clear if there is restriction on specific file format allow for transfer since there is no File Explorer? There seems to have mass-storage mode, but does it allow user to store any file types they want?

And as I've mentioned before:
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_phone_8-review-839p9.php

Au contraire - Windows Phone 8 is only now able to start matching up against iOS, and it's still got a lot of ground to cover to reach Android levels of functionality and customization options. So it seems that the Nokia Lumias, the Samsung Ativs and the HTC WPs will first try and steal market share from iOS, before looking at the Google-powered army (though some might be tempted to give up some functionality for the cool looks).

So, the Lumia 820 and 920, will be good for those who doesn't bother much about flexibility, functionalities and cutomizations of Android. Personally, WP is better than iOS, in terms of OS comparison as it offer deep and nice SNS integration, and now having support bluetooth file transfer, sd-card and mass-storage mode.
If only they offer a true Windows on mobile phone, let user decide to keep it simple or utilize the OS to the fullest, not lock the user down.
If done right, Nokia may have better chance and N8 or 808 PureView users can truly look forward for a Lumia PureView.




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BGR has a review of HTC's Windows Phone 8X. The review is not a must read but the concluding comments hit the mark. To quote some passages:

It’s the same old story… apps.

High-quality Windows Phone apps are still incredibly scarce compared to the leading mobile platforms and momentum is not in Microsoft’s favor. It has been more than two and a half years since “Windows Phone Series 7″ was first announced and more than two years since the first round of devices launched. And still, apps are a huge issue.

For one thing, the platform is missing hundreds of popular apps that have been available on other platforms for quite some time. For another, many popular developers that do decide to bring their apps over to Windows Phone have done a very poor job, either due to inexperience with the platform and available tools, limitations and performance issues in Windows Phone itself, or a combination of both.

Users can’t switch from Android or iOS to Windows Phone if they don’t have access to their favorite apps. And users won’t switch if the apps they do have access to don’t perform well.


At the end of the day Windows Phone 8 is a tough sell just like Windows Phone 7.5, which was a tough sell just like Windows Phone 7. It’s not for lack of trying, and it certainly doesn’t speak to the quality of the software or the devices that carry it. HTC’s Windows Phone 8X is a gorgeous, elegant smartphone with a unique design and solid performance.

The sad truth is that there is still no compelling argument for Windows Phone over one of the market leaders.

The optimist in me wants to tell you that can change. The app situation will improve now that Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 share code, the third-party app performance situation will improve now that Windows Phone has a new core and new options for developers, and the visibility situation will improve now that Microsoft and Nokia are both dumping serious dollars into marketing. But the pessimist in me isn’t quite convinced. There are still too many ifs.

Compounding matters is the fact that as it stands today, there is no real differentiation that presents clear and important advantages over the competition. Nothing jumps out as a significant benefit over Android and the iPhone. Sure there are things Windows Phone has that its rivals do not, but they are not a big enough draw to really sway buyers.

If you’re willing to make do with Windows Phone in its current state and play the waiting game, I wholeheartedly recommend the Windows Phone 8X. This phone is awesome. The hardware is outstanding and the operating system is unique and smooth. But there are unavoidable compromises you’ll have to make in jumping over to the Windows Phone camp and now, more than two years since the platform first launched, people still seem unwilling to make those compromises.

P.S. Sorry about hijacking this thread...kekekeke

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GSMArena also did mentioned File Transfer is finally available.

But not really clear if there is restriction on specific file format allow for transfer since there is no File Explorer? There seems to have mass-storage mode, but does it allow user to store any file types they want?

And as I've mentioned before:
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_phone_8-review-839p9.php

Au contraire - Windows Phone 8 is only now able to start matching up against iOS, and it's still got a lot of ground to cover to reach Android levels of functionality and customization options. So it seems that the Nokia Lumias, the Samsung Ativs and the HTC WPs will first try and steal market share from iOS, before looking at the Google-powered army (though some might be tempted to give up some functionality for the cool looks).

So, the Lumia 820 and 920, will be good for those who doesn't bother much about flexibility, functionalities and cutomizations of Android. Personally, WP is better than iOS, in terms of OS comparison as it offer deep and nice SNS integration, and now having support bluetooth file transfer, sd-card and mass-storage mode.
If only they offer a true Windows on mobile phone, let user decide to keep it simple or utilize the OS to the fullest, not lock the user down.
If done right, Nokia may have better chance and N8 or 808 PureView users can truly look forward for a Lumia PureView.
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Hmmm this is weird, some review sites say photos (picture) are not able to transfer via bluetooth..
but wouldn't it redundant to make such restriction since they allowed users to transfer music (via xbox or bla bla bla? effing microsoft making things so confuse)._.?

WP seem like a good iOS replacement, but just for those non-apps-zombies i guess,most ios users doesn't care about flexibility or being closed source, what they care are "able to show off their newest latest apps" to the others, so WP couldn't even fill up their teeth's gap lol sweat.gif
I guess for now, WP's target market are those pre-blackberry users/corporates (that can't wait for BB10), diehard nokians (how many of them left we wouldn't know lol), and stalkers (ftw!) lololololol
Apps redefined smartphone industry, so WP is nothing without them regardless it's well refurbished "iOS" yawn.gif
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Brothers and sisters, my 808 got washed in the washing machine. now the phone cannot on. but now I am study in Jordan, still under warranty but didn't bring any receipt. I sent my phone into local store only, pray for the phone to be well soon please. So so so so so so so sad sad.gif
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Haha they are funny. Some forumer said blue tooth transfer  with nfc. Nothing much new. Not worth to make 920 my next phone except if its 1.5k below
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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Indeed i see that same thing it should been in WP7.5 in the first place


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Brothers and sisters, my 808 got washed in the washing machine. now the phone cannot on. but now I am study in Jordan, still under warranty but didn't bring any receipt. I sent my phone into local store only, pray for the phone to be well soon please. So so so so so so so sad sad.gif
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bro

Once your phone enter water the warranty will be void.

2nd if you immediately take out and remove tbe battery there a higher probability it can be saved but if more than 30mins i believe the internal have been already short circuit already. Wish u luck bro


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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 30 2012, 09:51 PM)
Hmmm this is weird, some review sites say photos (picture) are not able to transfer via bluetooth..
but wouldn't it redundant to make such restriction since they allowed users to transfer music (via xbox or bla bla bla? effing microsoft making things so confuse)._.?

WP seem like a good iOS replacement, but just for those non-apps-zombies i guess,most ios users doesn't care about flexibility or being closed source, what they care are "able to show off their newest latest apps" to the others, so WP couldn't even fill up their teeth's gap lol  sweat.gif
I guess for now, WP's target market are those pre-blackberry users/corporates (that can't wait for BB10), diehard nokians (how many of them left we wouldn't know lol), and stalkers (ftw!) lololololol
Apps redefined smartphone industry, so WP is nothing without them regardless it's well refurbished "iOS"  yawn.gif
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Not all Symbian users can accept WP restrictions and limitations, if you have been using something more flexible and open, going into a more restricted and limited OS feels plain dumb and stupid, going backwards. Even many Windows Mobile users are disappointed and sticking back to Android.

WP8 now supporting micro-SD, bluetooth file transfer, mass-storage, seems moving forward but still BEHIND their own predecessor, Windows Mobile, in terms of OS functionality/feature and flexibility. I'm not sure what sort of restrictions are there for these newly added feature, I read in GSMArena, you can transfer "unsupported" file format into the micro-SD when connected as mass-storage mode, but you will not be able to attach those file in emails or even see those files from the OS because it's "unsupported". If we're talking about a computer, how stupid is that? Imagine your Windows PC can only see media files.
But then, not everyone bothers about this, or they can imagine this... some people they need to experience it then only they will realize and complain about it (e.g. when one day there's a urgent request, they need to send specific files when they're outside, but their "smartphone" can't even do such simple task)... Just like bluetooth file transfer, some people said, I don't need it. But having it wont' harm, not having it, it's another story; imagine after taken an amazing photos of a pretty girl (or hot guys for girl), the person ask for the photo to be send to his/her phone and you "smartphone" can't do it. At least this issue, supposedly been solved in WP8, else imagine having to boast about the Lumia PureView technology, but then you can't send the photo via bluetooth... Epic!!!

The best joke I see about WP8 is the video where the presenter said WP8 is personalized and unique unlike Android and hard to differentiate or recognize because they're all the same??? WP8 is all tiles, nothing much to personalized, no customization, no wallpaper... Android, you have homescreen with "live" widgets, wallpaper, customizations. It's more unique and personalized, it can also simulate WP8 live tiles via widgets (except not scrollable and not able to fill the entire homescreen). Even Symbian is more personalized and much much more customizable than WP8.
The best homescreen is still Maemo's Panorama Desktop. It's the most flexible and customizable homescreen with FREE placement of icons, widgets, you can even overlap them, set transparancy, etc. There's even very powerful custom widgets you can customize yourself. In short, it's very much like your Windows Desktop.
Too bad Nokia already abandon this.


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Brothers and sisters, my 808 got washed in the washing machine. now the phone cannot on. but now I am study in Jordan, still under warranty but didn't bring any receipt. I sent my phone into local store only, pray for the phone to be well soon please. So so so so so so so sad sad.gif
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No warranty coverage for water damage.

Did you try to turn on your phone many times? Try to wipe clean your phone, dry it up, and soaked it inside uncooked rice for few days or longer? Then try your luck...

http://www.wikihow.com/Save-a-Wet-Cell-Phone
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After reading the WP8 specs I think Microsoft has listened to many of the users' complaints and removed some of the major restrictions. Now WP8 has mass storage mode, bluetooth file transfer, micro-SD card, can use any MP3 file as ringtone and not tied to Zune anymore. Previously they try to ape Apple thinking that if iphone can do it then so can they. This is erroneous logic as iphone and WP8 have different target markets. For example no iphone user complains about no bluetooth file transfer but this is the most requested feature in WP7.5.

However it may be too little, too late now for WP8. If those features including re-sizable tiles had been in WP7.5 they won't be suffering with less than 3.5% share now. WP8 is still far behind Android and only a little less restricted than ios. Those who don't like ios restrictions will go for Android. Iphone fans can live with ios restrictions or they can jailbreak. MS will just have a fringe market for those who don't like ios and Android.

As for Nokia it cannot survive even if WP8 is moderately successful. It has to share the cake with Samsung, HTC and Microsoft who will be making their own phones next year. Efforts to convert Symbian users to WP7.5 failed with only 2 out of 10 converting. Nokia isn't nimble enough to compete with Samsung and HTC and Microsoft will clobber all of them. Here's an interesting article which hits the mark.

"Game over for Nokia," says ex-Microsoft exec
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That's because most people buy ios for apps not to bluetooth transfer and restriction.

But wp they are not the highest nor the lowest.

To say most simplify not really to say they are the best in social integration not likely because its mostly for facebook and twitter only.

To say connectivity alot limitation from wp7 and wp7.5 can't bluetooth transfer, can't do drag and drop mass storage, no internet sharing out of the box,
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QUOTE(ulwan25 @ Oct 31 2012, 01:48 AM)
Brothers and sisters, my 808 got washed in the washing machine. now the phone cannot on. but now I am study in Jordan, still under warranty but didn't bring any receipt. I sent my phone into local store only, pray for the phone to be well soon please. So so so so so so so sad sad.gif
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Open up, take out battery, case.Put in rice or silicon gel for 1 week. If the rice/silicon gel become wet due to absorbing the water, change it. My E6 rendam in laundry before, for 1 hr. I tot sure gone case. After 2 weeks in silicone gel, it can still work, touchscreen part still responsive. Just the battery kaput. So, dont underestimate our Nokias. Good luck with your 808, hope it survive.

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no warranty for water damage? how bad is water damage? I don't know much.
up until now still no answer from the local store. OMG
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i dont think electronic got cover water damage because they gonna lose the profit if everyone claim after accident drop into longkang, washing machine, mud, fridge bla bla tongue.gif
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no warranty for water damage? how bad is water damage? I don't know much.
up until now still no answer from the local store. OMG
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Sorry to break it to you, it means Bad. As in the phone cannot work anymore. I hope the local store there dry it up, then maybe can still work. That was why I didnt send my E6 to NCC or Nokia Store. Straight dry it with silicon gel.

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no warranty for water damage? how bad is water damage? I don't know much.
up until now still no answer from the local store. OMG
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u can try your luck say dunno why phone like tat. But once u tell them water damage immediately void without checking.
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i dont think electronic got cover water damage because they gonna lose the profit if everyone claim after accident drop into longkang, washing machine, mud, fridge bla bla tongue.gif
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How to drop inside fridge leh? tongue.gif
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leave inside fridge lor overtime frozen when dry become water tada short circuit.

I even left my nokia n8 in the car until overheat the phone auto turn off due to the aluminum body the phone so hot it burns when u touch it. I took it and leave it until cool down turn on no issue.

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i duno but 808 so big a$$ phone also can accident drop into washing machine so i assume anything is possible  tongue.gif
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funny waa i want take my ice limau and vegetables to cook tiba tiba telephone ring bla bla bla. then aiya not enough hand put phone in fridge take vegetables and drinks out. Then accidentally close fridge?
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i duno but 808 so big a$$ phone also can accident drop into washing machine so i assume anything is possible  tongue.gif
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wakaka, mana got accidentally drop inside, you ask ulwan25. laugh.gif
In laundry is common. My case was phone in pants pocket. Take out wallet, didnt take out phone cos feel the pants it's light, tot already take out phone. Then...taulah, put in the pail to rendam before washing. Then... think weird, where did I put my phone...look here, there, everywhere. Then, Oh oh, pail cry.gif

Sifu aspire, I mean the fridge so big, open from side not from top, how to drop a phone inside,hhahaha

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Oct 31 2012, 09:13 PM)
wakaka, mana got accidentally drop inside, you ask ulwan25.  laugh.gif
In laundry is common. My case was phone in pants pocket. Take out wallet, didnt take out phone cos feel the pants it's light, tot already take out phone. Then...taulah, put in the pail to rendam before washing. Then... think weird, where did I put my phone...look here, there, everywhere. Then, Oh oh, pail  cry.gif

Sifu aspire, I mean the fridge so big, open from side not from top, how to drop a phone inside,hhahaha
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haha i mean leave it there la not drop la. When i take out everything from my pockets first thing i make sure my phones are there. Money lost or wallet not there also dont care yet hahaha

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haha i mean leave it there la not drop la. When i take out everything from my pockets first thing i make sure my phones are there. Money lost or wallet not there also dont care yet hahaha
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Now I learn lesson already of course. Now, both pants/jeans pockets MUST check and take out contents, cannot assume. Haha, your phone more important than wallet/IC then

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Now I learn lesson already of course. Now, both pants/jeans pockets MUST check and take out contents, cannot assume. Haha, your phone more important than wallet/IC then
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hahaha something like tat lar. In a way money and credit cards soak in water still can use.

Electronic stuff like phone cant.
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Oct 31 2012, 08:24 PM)
Sorry to break it to you, it means Bad. As in the phone cannot work anymore. I hope the local store there dry it up, then maybe can still work. That was why I didnt send my E6 to NCC or Nokia Store. Straight dry it with silicon gel.
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I did put it straight into dry rice and put it around 3-4hours. still, there is still un-evaporated water especially on the screen side (also in the camera), I hope the phone is oke, especially the camera aspect. I have my N8 but I don't want to use it no more. I can't focus on my study while my handset is on the 'hospital' cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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I did put it straight into dry rice and put it around 3-4hours. still, there is still un-evaporated water especially on the screen side (also in the camera), I hope the phone is oke, especially the camera aspect. I have my N8 but I don't want to use it no more. I can't focus on my study while my handset is on the 'hospital'  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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The water on my E6 screen only dried up after 1 whole week in silicon gel
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I did put it straight into dry rice and put it around 3-4hours. still, there is still un-evaporated water especially on the screen side (also in the camera), I hope the phone is oke, especially the camera aspect. I have my N8 but I don't want to use it no more. I can't focus on my study while my handset is on the 'hospital'  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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Hi guys, I just finally update my 808 to FP2. Got a question need to ask you guys. Did anyone found the new voice search feature in Nokia maps? I heard that there should be a mic button next to the search bar but mine don't have. Any idea? Thanks.
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I'm not sure what sort of restrictions are there for these newly added feature, I read in GSMArena, you can transfer "unsupported" file format into the micro-SD when connected as mass-storage mode, but you will not be able to attach those file in emails or even see those files from the OS because it's "unsupported". If we're talking about a computer, how stupid is that? Imagine your Windows PC can only see media files.
But then, not everyone bothers about this, or they can imagine this... some people they need to experience it then only they will realize and complain about it (e.g. when one day there's a urgent request, they need to send specific files when they're outside, but their "smartphone" can't even do such simple task)... Just like bluetooth file transfer, some people said, I don't need it. But having it wont' harm, not having it, it's another story; imagine after taken an amazing photos of a pretty girl (or hot guys for girl), the person ask for the photo to be send to his/her phone and you "smartphone" can't do it. At least this issue, supposedly been solved in WP8, else imagine having to boast about the Lumia PureView technology, but then you can't send the photo via bluetooth... Epic!!!

True, many people will try to argue that some features are not mandatory/ this and that, but they couldn't deny the fact that something useless for them might be useful for others,they're like "ok i'm ur dad, when i say useless, then just no and shut your pomegranate up cuz it's useless". We need some features that are practical and useful when needed, not that we gonna lost piece of meat for using it. But on the other hand, feature like so called wireless charging from Nokia is kind of useless to me or dare I say to majority of buyers, cuz who the heck will plug in the wireless charging stand and on it for 24/7? manyak energy waste weii :s
I wouldn't mind if they take this feature away and keep the phone slightly slimmer or lighter, until they enable true wireless charging that you need not to "bound" your phone on top of the charging pad to charge; at this point, charging via usb cable still more practical to me cuz we can pick it up while cable is attached, but it's stupid if we need now to carry along the charging pad just to play with the phone while it charge ._.

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The best homescreen is still Maemo's Panorama Desktop. It's the most flexible and customizable homescreen with FREE placement of icons, widgets, you can even overlap them, set transparancy, etc. There's even very powerful custom widgets you can customize yourself. In short, it's very much like your Windows Desktop.
Too bad Nokia already abandon this.

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"What if" Nokia went Maemo full heartedly? they must still being top dog in smatphone industry..
Maemo is piece of combination from art, sceience, future (and whatever you can name it), it's just too.. legendary. Stupid Nokia is stupid, highe management should responsible for this.. bunch of worthless braindead zombies :/

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my 808 went to nokia clinic ...its been 3 days ever since.

i had "system error" message on OS startup
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 1 2012, 10:01 AM)
my 808 went to nokia clinic ...its been 3 days ever since.

i had "system error" message on OS startup
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Sifu seem not not so good earlier your lumia 900 screen crack now 808 also?
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hey guise, any way to re-download the carried mobile data settings ? Or rediscover them via the 808 ? I deleted them from my phone (using Celcom btw). The methods on the Celcom website don't work ( i get a sms saying settings received but were not saved. could not be authenticated etc or something like that).
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The water on my E6 screen only dried up after 1 whole week in silicon gel
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is yours functional when it got into the water? after dry baru oke? ohmy.gif
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Of course after dry. After in the water cannot even on. After 1 week put in silicone gel ie like thirsty hippo, I tried to on. Tak boleh. Put another week in silicone gel, still tak boleh. Then went buy new battery try, viola. Touchscreen can still detect, I was so happy, haha. E6 is qwerty+ touchscreen, I tot if touch tak boleh I can use the keypad,both can, so happy. Its still alive today, the incident happened last year.

For your case, suggest you go the shop ask what have they done with it. If just sitting there, better you dry it yourself than let the water spoil the electronics.

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i wonder beside nokia AMOLED screen la, got the sleeping screen saver...duno other OS AMOLED got this similar apps or not?
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an update of my 808 : motherboard got problem lol. i have no efin idea how this could happen
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Nov 1 2012, 05:08 PM)
an update of my 808 : motherboard got problem lol. i have no efin idea how this could happen
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I lost my laptop the same way, ie. rain dripped on the keyboard, soaked up the hardisk etc without me knowing. By the time I came back from holidays, I tried to turn on the laptop. No response. And gone forever. When I opened up the back cover, I managed to drip out water from the hardisk !

The key problem was that I tried to turn on the laptop after soaking. Apparently if you know that its been soaked, you can left it to dry by various method shared by our bro above, after a week, then you may try to turn it on. Once its on with water in it, it will damage the circuitry the moment you try to turn it on.

I guess the motherboard will need to be changed.
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Ulwan25, this is how my watermarked(literally) E6 look like :

You can see the white markings on the left & right side of the screen. 2nd pic, the 808 flash too strong, I put it too close I guess

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 1 2012, 08:38 PM)
Ulwan25, this is how my watermarked(literally) E6 look like :

You can see the white markings on the left & right side of the screen. 2nd pic, the 808 flash too strong, I put it too close I guess
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I am guessing that your phone drips into water like a matter of seconds, right?
My phone got into washing machine (which I had put soaps in it) and spin it like 10 minutes or so.

and I just got my phone back, it cannot be fix. I didn't speak Jordanian really well, but their services is kind of bad, my mechanical shutter also got crack now (stupid Arabs shakehead.gif ) and I think the phone is dried now only I don't know what is damaged inside mad.gif

I hope for the best for my phone cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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I am guessing that your phone drips into water like a matter of seconds, right?
My phone got into washing machine (which I had put soaps in it) and spin it like 10 minutes or so.

and I just got my phone back, it cannot be fix. I didn't speak Jordanian really well, but their services is kind of bad, my mechanical shutter also got crack now (stupid Arabs  shakehead.gif ) and I think the phone is dried now only I don't know what is damaged inside  mad.gif

I hope for the best for my phone  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I think you were too worried about your phone to see my earlier post. I accidentally rendam my pants together with my phone(it was in my pants pocket) in the pail with detergent for at least half hour. A few seconds the screen wouldnt be filled with water.

Since nothing else can do, try put the phone in silicone gel for 1 week. Open up case,etc. Change the silicone every day/every two days. The water dry from your screen already? After 1 week, then only you try put in new battery or borrow a functioning battery from your friend & try to on. I also lost hope in my E6 that time but the fella refuse to die on me wink.gif



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an update of my 808 : motherboard got problem lol. i have no efin idea how this could happen
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SYSTEM ERROR coz motherboard problem? Habis aku... cry.gif
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 1 2012, 11:23 PM)
I think you were too worried about your phone to see my earlier post. I accidentally rendam my pants together with my phone(it was in my pants pocket) in the pail with detergent for at least half hour. A few seconds the screen wouldnt be filled with water.

Since nothing else can do, try put the phone in silicone gel for 1 week. Open up case,etc. Change the silicone every day/every two days. The water dry from your screen already? After 1 week, then only you try put in new battery or borrow a functioning battery from your friend & try to on. I also lost hope in my E6 that time but the fella refuse to die on me wink.gif
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I only balut it with lots of tissue and tight it with rubber band now. But after the local store try to repair my phone, the mechanical shutter got crack STUPID ARAB ARGHHHHHHHH vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

I will try to leave the phone with battery out, but I assert to sell it if it manage to turn on (mechanical shutter damage, sloppy care from them damn damn damn damn, and maybe my phone won't last long) or else, I won't be using any smartphone for one year or so. Perhaps I needed to retire from buying phones wub.gif
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an update of my 808 : motherboard got problem lol. i have no efin idea how this could happen
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when they dunno how to fix they will just replace the entire motherboard.
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QUOTE(peter32 @ Nov 1 2012, 06:54 PM)
I lost my laptop the same way, ie. rain dripped on the keyboard, soaked up the hardisk etc without me knowing. By the time I came back from holidays, I tried to turn on the laptop.  No response. And gone forever.  When I opened up the back cover, I managed to drip out water from the hardisk !

The key problem was that I tried to turn on the laptop after soaking.  Apparently if you know that its been soaked, you can left it to dry by various method shared by our bro above, after a week, then you may try to turn it on.  Once its on with water in it, it will damage the circuitry the moment you try to turn it on. 

I guess the motherboard will need to be changed.
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got your point, but i never left my 808 soaked..the "system error" message happened after i updated to FP2

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SYSTEM ERROR coz motherboard problem? Habis aku... cry.gif
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I do not know if it is really motherboard problem sweat.gif

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when they dunno how to fix they will just replace the entire motherboard.
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aaaaaahhh..this make sense alot!! lol
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QUOTE(AlOnE89 @ Oct 31 2012, 11:42 PM)
True, many people will try to argue that some features are not mandatory/ this and that, but they couldn't deny the fact that something useless for them might be useful for others,they're like "ok i'm ur dad, when i say useless, then just no and shut your pomegranate up cuz it's useless". We need some features that are practical and useful when needed, not that we gonna lost piece of meat for using it. But on the other hand, feature like so called wireless charging from Nokia is kind of useless to me or dare I say to majority of buyers, cuz who the heck will plug in the wireless charging stand and on it for 24/7? manyak energy waste weii :s

I wouldn't mind if they take this feature away and keep the phone slightly slimmer or lighter, until they enable true wireless charging that you need not to "bound" your phone on top of the charging pad to charge; at this point, charging via usb cable still more practical to me cuz we can pick it up while cable is attached, but it's stupid if we need now to carry along the charging pad just to play with the phone while it charge ._.

Sigh, even though we discussed this many times already, I still couldn't help but feel depress on this.
"What if" Nokia went Maemo full heartedly? they must still being top dog in smatphone industry..
Maemo is piece of combination from art, sceience, future (and whatever you can name it), it's just too.. legendary. Stupid Nokia is stupid, highe management should responsible for this.. bunch of worthless braindead zombies :/
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True true, very sad. I still use my N900 once in a while, good for TV Out and the browser and browsing experience is still better than the Android phones, somehow it renders more like a PC. It's just lacking the processing power and ram. cry.gif


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when they dunno how to fix they will just replace the entire motherboard.
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Haha, this is like a general rule or practice. Just like computer, got virus? go spyware? Don't know how to fix (or lazy)? FORMAT.


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May the force is strong to all 808 gang~ Hopefully ulwan25's & pikacu's 808 will back in safe hands. And lessons learned that must double or triple checked every pocket before the washing machine dump!

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i just noticed i cannot see the name of the person in sms...only phone number...either via sending or receiving...zzz.

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I only balut it with lots of tissue and tight it with rubber band now. But after the local store try to repair my phone, the mechanical shutter got crack STUPID ARAB ARGHHHHHHHH  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I will try to leave the phone with battery out, but I assert to sell it if it manage to turn on (mechanical shutter damage, sloppy care from them damn damn damn damn, and maybe my phone won't last long) or else, I won't be using any smartphone for one year or so. Perhaps I needed to retire from buying phones  wub.gif
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Just balut with tissue wouldnt do. Silicone gel is better, to suck out all the water. Silicone gel not expensive, your 808 cost RM1,800++. Cover the phone full of the silicone gel
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i just noticed i cannot see the name of the person in sms...only phone number...either via sending or receiving...zzz.
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That means there are duplicate contact in your phone.
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First proper review of the new Nokia 920, with link to fabulous photo comparison between various handphone (but not in full resolution): HERE.
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That means there are duplicate contact in your phone.
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no la, i can see with my own eyes got no duplicate contacts...zzz.

anyway, the solution was to switch to show sim contacts, and then back to phone contacts...or vice versa depending where you store the contacts.
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Anyone using stoppola on 808 PV? any review?
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One thing about the 808 PureView, the 38MP resolution @ 4:3 and lossless zoom.
Last week there was heavy flood near my office, I was able to capture full resolution and crop with amazing detail, and when using 3MP, I was able to zoom really far and the image capture detail is still very good.
When I share it among my colleagues, they were amazed and those that didn't know I have the PureView, actually asked whether I brought my camera to capture it.

I tried taking it with the S3, without zoom, when crop, it looks like CCTV low res video footage. That's not so bad yet, when I use digital zoom, that's when it gets REALLY bad...

So, I must say, the 808 PureView is very a unique camera smartphone! Really appreciate the high megapixel with good detail captured and the amazing lossless zoom (if you compared with another phone camera digital zoom, Gosh, the difference is just,... too far apart!)

Not an exact comparison, but see how bad the S3 when using Digital Zoom...

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Nov 5 2012, 02:27 PM)
One thing about the 808 PureView, the 38MP resolution @ 4:3 and lossless zoom.
Last week there was heavy flood near my office, I was able to capture full resolution and crop with amazing detail, and when using 3MP, I was able to zoom really far and the image capture detail is still very good.
When I share it among my colleagues, they were amazed and those that didn't know I have the PureView, actually asked whether I brought my camera to capture it.

I tried taking it with the S3, without zoom, when crop, it looks like CCTV low res video footage. That's not so bad yet, when I use digital zoom, that's when it gets REALLY bad...

So, I must say, the 808 PureView is very a unique camera smartphone!  Really appreciate the high megapixel with good detail captured and the amazing lossless zoom (if you compared with another phone camera digital zoom, Gosh, the difference is just,... too far apart!)

Not an exact comparison, but see how bad the S3 when using Digital Zoom...

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lets wait till that fatty lop get sacked, then maybe nokia will turn their head to focus back on symbian...  whistling.gif
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Just imagine if they were able to actually introduce a real Phase 2 (which means Phase 1 + Optical Stabilizastion) instead of a NEW Phase.......
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lets wait till that fatty lop get sacked, then maybe nokia will turn their head to focus back on symbian...  whistling.gif
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On side note, I doubt they can focus back on Symbian after what they done to the entire team.
Also can Symbian catch up.
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Symbian is gone, thats a fact. It has been decided by the Nokia board before elop joined nokia. Only he accelerate the pace on dumping symbian.

I guess 808 PV will be my last symbian phone, hope it can last me another 2-3 years.
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Nov 5 2012, 06:16 PM)
Symbian is gone, thats a fact. It has been decided by the Nokia board before elop joined nokia. Only he accelerate the pace on dumping symbian.

I guess 808 PV will be my last symbian phone, hope it can last me another 2-3 years.
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apps haha it will be challenging
Updates also will be changing.
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The sad fact is Nokia spent so much money to purchase Navtaq company and further develop Nokia maps exclusively just for Nokia. With Windows phone, now people are able to hack Nokia map and make it available to all windows phone.


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camera yes more than that it will take awhile for others to chase up to 41MP.

apps haha it will be challenging
Updates also will be changing.
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For the lates Belle refresh updates, the Accenture team make the updates available for everyone through Nokia suites update instead of waiting for the telecommunication company lengthy process to approve it.

Based on the interview with them, it will be the last updates for Symbian, so long for elop promise they will maintain symbian to 2016.

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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Nov 5 2012, 10:16 PM)
The sad fact is Nokia spent so much money to purchase Navtaq company and further develop Nokia maps exclusively just for Nokia. With Windows phone, now people are able to hack Nokia map and make it available to all windows phone.


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For the lates Belle refresh updates, the Accenture team make the updates available for everyone through Nokia suites update instead of waiting for the telecommunication company lengthy process to approve it.

Based on the interview with them, it will be the last updates for Symbian, so long for elop promise they will maintain symbian to 2016.
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lets hope so it last till 2016.
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what is the most popular color for 808 PV? white? black? or red?

I am using black color 808 PV at the moment.
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The sad fact is Nokia spent so much money to purchase Navtaq company and further develop Nokia maps exclusively just for Nokia. With Windows phone, now people are able to hack Nokia map and make it available to all windows phone.


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For the lates Belle refresh updates, the Accenture team make the updates available for everyone through Nokia suites update instead of waiting for the telecommunication company lengthy process to approve it.

Based on the interview with them, it will be the last updates for Symbian, so long for elop promise they will maintain symbian to 2016.
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QUOTE(kinabalu @ Nov 6 2012, 09:03 AM)
what is the most popular color for 808 PV? white? black? or red?

I am using black color 808 PV at the moment.
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camera yes more than that it will take awhile for others to chase up to 41MP.

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definitely! 41mp is a long way to go for other company to achieve it. Nokia is the best in imagery, and that everyone can't even deny even an ounce from it!  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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Symbian Belle is still a much better OS than WP7.5 or WP8 with more power and more features. Even if it is not improved any more it will still take years for WP to catch up if ever. But the snag is that developers are no longer interested in developing for Symbian so you have to be satisfied with a stagnant app store.
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But only good one feature wont save nokia
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I can't imagine a successor for this beast. perhaps 100MP is possible for Nokia? I'm sure they can do it thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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I can't imagine a successor for this beast. perhaps 100MP is possible for Nokia?  I'm sure they can do it thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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They can do it but not WinMo.. if u know what i mean
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how much does nokia 808 sell now in Malaysia? nokia 808 is very rare and expensive in singapore singapore dollar 700. any trusted Malaysia website selling the phone?
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how much does nokia 808 sell now in Malaysia? nokia 808 is very rare and expensive in singapore singapore dollar 700. any trusted Malaysia website selling the phone?
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how much does nokia 808 sell now in Malaysia? nokia 808 is very rare and expensive in singapore singapore dollar 700. any trusted Malaysia website selling the phone?
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i think the price now around 1699 - rm1899
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Enough of Note and Window phone shit tongue.gif this is for Pureview only discussion rclxm9.gif

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Hi there everyone. I just got a Nokia 808. however there is this envelope that keep flashing as if there are messages/sms but when I open the messages, the envelope keeps flashing still. Any idea what is the envelope for?


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Hi there everyone. I just got a Nokia 808. however there is this envelope that keep flashing as if there are messages/sms but when I open the messages, the envelope keeps flashing still. Any idea what is the envelope for?
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either your simcard inbox is full or your phone memory is full.
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Hi sifus, can recommend a good car charger ? Other than the official Nokia one of course (or is that the only choice ?). I tried using some of the universal chargers but no go on my 808.
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either your simcard inbox is full or your phone memory is full.
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Thank you. Yes under notifications it says Sim Memory Full. But how to clear it? I got no sms messages in it. Full with what?
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my 808 still in nokia care...still pending for motherboard to come... :rage:

QUOTE(michaeltan1943 @ Nov 11 2012, 10:33 PM)
Thank you. Yes under notifications it says Sim Memory Full. But how to clear it? I got no sms messages in it. Full with what?
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 11 2012, 10:23 PM)
Hi sifus, can recommend a good car charger ? Other than the official Nokia one of course (or is that the only choice ?). I tried using some of the universal chargers but no go on my 808.
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Look at the power output u should get one same output your 808. Like 1amps or 2amps.
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Thank you. Yes under notifications it says Sim Memory Full. But how to clear it? I got no sms messages in it. Full with what?
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Look at the power output u should get one same output your 808. Like 1amps or 2amps.
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The 1A ones no go. Will look at 2A or the Nokia ones.
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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 12 2012, 02:51 PM)
The 1A ones no go. Will look at 2A or the Nokia ones.
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Does the 808 freeze when we install a few applications? Not sure which is the culprit. I think once I put Nokia Maps 2.0 into it, it started freezing.

All I installed from fresh was Opera, Skype, Whatsapp, Viber. Anybody experienced any freeze?


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QUOTE(Eoma @ Nov 11 2012, 10:23 PM)
Hi sifus, can recommend a good car charger ? Other than the official Nokia one of course (or is that the only choice ?). I tried using some of the universal chargers but no go on my 808.
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Very good one is the Huntkey Xman Car charger. Its has a USB charger as well as another slot to charge most notebooks. It is not an Inverter that drains your battery but a real notebook charger for the car. So you get BOTH, a USB charger plus a notebook charger. Very small size. Can get in ALL IT for RM109.

see http://www.huntkeydiy.com/en/news/n504.html

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Eoma: Using Belken Micro USB Car Charger 1Amp no problem charging 808 (but no go for n97 mini)

michaeltan1973: nice intro on the product!
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thx guys, that huntskey looks good. Will look out for it.
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QUOTE(realjazzcoke @ Nov 12 2012, 10:39 PM)
Eoma: Using Belken Micro USB Car Charger 1Amp no problem charging 808 (but no go for n97 mini)

michaeltan1973: nice intro on the product!
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I have been using it for 6 months now. Its really good cause it can charge my Samsung notebook in the car fully in 1 and half hours. Unlike the AC/DC Inverters that get really hot and scarry and can drain your car battery unless the engine is running, this does not get hot at all. The 2Amp USB charger is more than enough for any ipad or pureview.
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got the huntkey from All IT. Works as advertised. Thx micheal for the recommendation.
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The 808Pv camera "scene mode" picture taken all just 5.3mp only?
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Hi sifu, i found that i cant use Lumia stock earphone on 808/n9, but when i use Ad-63 adapter by nokia..i use the earphone without any issue n 808/n9, any idea why???
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Hi sifu, i found that i cant use Lumia stock earphone on 808/n9, but when i use Ad-63 adapter by nokia..i use the earphone without any issue n 808/n9, any idea why???
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My monster headset got two cables

With remote i use with lumia/S3/Note 2

without remote i use with Nokia 808 and Nokia N8
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Nov 15 2012, 10:48 PM)
yea u cant i am having that problem with the monster headset too. It can work but the audio is not right too soft.

My monster headset got two cables

With remote i use with lumia/S3/Note 2

without remote i use with Nokia 808 and Nokia N8
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so..what makes the difference between those two audio jacks? I noticed Lumia earphone's audio jack albeit shorter than 808 stock earphone
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so..what makes the difference between those two audio jacks? I noticed Lumia earphone's audio jack albeit shorter than 808 stock earphone
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Waiting for OIS version.
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sifus, i wanna buy cheap2 steadicam...any recommendation?

dont think OIS will come.
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sifus, i wanna buy cheap2 steadicam...any recommendation?

dont think OIS will come.
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yup i also thinking buy steadycam also.how much?
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yup i also thinking buy steadycam also.how much?
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Anyone here letting go their 808, aiming for one soon drool.gif
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Nov 22 2012, 01:21 AM)
Anyone here letting go their 808, aiming for one soon drool.gif
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many months back,,,there is massive 808 sales few days after the release date laugh.gif u should not have missed it...it was sold out like hot cakes in garage sales doh.gif
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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 14 2012, 04:17 PM)
Anyway to remove the yellow?

Anybody else have experience with white phone?
What about current 808 users?
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You can actually google up some solution. I have some ideas i read last time. coca cola can help? you can give it a try.


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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 12 2012, 10:54 PM)
means reviewer fail lor. None of those camera or DSLR have nokia rich recording and loseless zoom so only a noob reviewer will tell you S3 wins. If they do compare 808 with S3
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sifu,

most of the reviews i see only focus on photo and video quality.

May I know the apps they have in there?

whatsapp..

any other android's apps available in nokia apps?

Or is it possible to do some rooting or so call jail break through xda developer to install the android apk in it?

It would be nice to have screenshot over the apps you are using in your app drawer.

Kinda curious. icon_rolleyes.gif


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many months back,,,there is massive 808 sales few days after the release date laugh.gif u should not have missed it...it was sold out like hot cakes in garage sales doh.gif
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One thing about the 808 PureView, the 38MP resolution @ 4:3 and lossless zoom.
Last week there was heavy flood near my office, I was able to capture full resolution and crop with amazing detail, and when using 3MP, I was able to zoom really far and the image capture detail is still very good.
When I share it among my colleagues, they were amazed and those that didn't know I have the PureView, actually asked whether I brought my camera to capture it.

I tried taking it with the S3, without zoom, when crop, it looks like CCTV low res video footage. That's not so bad yet, when I use digital zoom, that's when it gets REALLY bad...

So, I must say, the 808 PureView is very a unique camera smartphone!  Really appreciate the high megapixel with good detail captured and the amazing lossless zoom (if you compared with another phone camera digital zoom, Gosh, the difference is just,... too far apart!)

Not an exact comparison, but see how bad the S3 when using Digital Zoom...

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Hi guys. Im planning to get 808pv. The lowest price i can get from garage sales is RM1610 (original).
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Any apps that enable me to sync Google contact?
Any app similary to airdroid?
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Sad damian leaving nokia i guess nokia pureview technology will be gone along with him
http://www.gsmarena.com/damian_dinning_lea...0-news-5120.php . Lets congratulate nokia for this amazing milestone the only company in the world that achieve so much and then head straight down

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hi guys,

anybody that having 3.5G hang issue have send your 808 to nokia care?

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/1...ction_issue.php


http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Nseries-an...1479724/page/20

I read at above url this issue related to the capacitor at the motherboard. So far i also have this issue however i unable to send to nokia care due to i'm unable to find where i put my warranty card.

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Sad damian leaving nokia i guess nokia pureview technology will be gone along with him
http://www.gsmarena.com/damian_dinning_lea...0-news-5120.php . Lets congratulate nokia for this amazing milestone the only company in the world that achieve so much and then head straight down
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sifu,

most of the reviews i see only focus on photo and video quality.

May I know the apps they have in there?

whatsapp..

any other android's apps available in nokia apps?

Or is it possible to do some rooting or so call jail break through xda developer to install the android apk in it?

It would be nice to have screenshot over the apps you are using in your app drawer.

Kinda curious.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Sadly, there isn't much apps, actually there's very little especially some older Symbian Apps and Games still not available for 808 PureView.

So, if you're into Apps & Games, 808 will not be a good choice.
It's my second phone, so I mainly use it for the camera purpose only (and sometimes GPS backup Nokia Maps/Waze and also CuteTube =P).

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Now gps also they abandon the map last update is april 2012 so I guess beside the camera and fm transmitter the phone is practically useless compare to competition
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got my 808 back last week. everything now works fine biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(abgabas @ Nov 26 2012, 10:29 AM)
I read at above url this issue related to the capacitor at the motherboard. So far i also have this issue however i unable to send to nokia care due to i'm unable to find where i put my warranty card.
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last time send my c6 nokia care center, they dont need warranty card even receipt, just check your emei no from their pc.
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last time send my c6 nokia care center, they dont need warranty card even receipt, just check your emei no from their pc.
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that good....now waiting for feedback if anybody replace it...so far i only know Nokia Ukraine have done it..dunno if that capacitor exist in malaysia or not..even battery also hard to get except using lower spec BL-4D
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any sifu here. I would like to know how to sync my google contacts into this phone.

I found exchange activesync. It seems that not connected. I have no idea how.


Added on November 26, 2012, 6:44 pmwell I solve the problem myself. I found that this thread here kinda quiet due to less Nokia PV user.

heres the solution I found with this video




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^ ah, late on that..haha. i always sync contact from google

anyway gfor 808 users. Skype (Urgh the ugly keyboard) and ClockSync (urgh the ugly keyboard too) are available now for Belle Fp2 (not sure since when)

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^ ah, late on that..haha. i always sync contact from google

anyway gfor 808 users. Skype (Urgh the ugly keyboard) and ClockSync (urgh the ugly keyboard too) are available now for Belle Fp2 (not sure since when)
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somehow, if I change my phone to L920, I won't be satisfied much with its still picture. dah biase sangat dgn N8 and 808, both got big sensor, big sensors and camera features.. I'm still going to wait the next 808, which will never gonna be the L920 itself mad.gif

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not a proper review/comparison...but this is old news.. tongue.gif
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somehow, if I change my phone to L920, I won't be satisfied much with its still picture. dah biase sangat dgn N8 and 808, both got big sensor, big sensors and camera features.. I'm still going to wait the next 808, which will never gonna be the L920 itself  mad.gif
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L920 depends what photo you take, if foods, or those still subject, you should feel and see big improvements, but if you're taking your kids or moving subjects, Don't matter what SUPER OIS, it's not gonna help. But for Video, it'll be a plus, but then if you use OIS during video and you shake, you may notice wobble effect on the video and also distortion or some sort.

Next 808? Now sure what will happen since Damian Dining already left. Plus, it also depend highly on what Windows Phone can offer.
If PureView Phase 2 is actually running on Symbian, most likely it will have Phase 1 included.
If it's running on Android, maybe it's possible as well, or at least something better than Windows Phone.
If they just had kept Maemo/MeeGo, it would've gone much further. Just look at what N900 can do FCam, despite it having a 5MP sensor.

ADDED:
Here's a comparison done for L920 against SIII and iPhone5, although not really a proper comparison but think of it as regular user taking these shots. Just as I predicted, actions shot it's practically useless, but in lowlight/dark areas, is where it excels.

http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-920-p...s-iii-01255193/

http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-920-p...one-5-05255660/

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L920 depends what photo you take, if foods, or those still subject, you should feel and see big improvements, but if you're taking your kids or moving subjects, Don't matter what SUPER OIS, it's not gonna help. But for Video, it'll be a plus, but then if you use OIS during video and you shake, you may notice wobble effect on the video and also distortion or some sort.

Next 808? Now sure what will happen since Damian Dining already left. Plus, it also depend highly on what Windows Phone can offer.
If PureView Phase 2 is actually running on Symbian, most likely it will have Phase 1 included.
If it's running on Android, maybe it's possible as well, or at least something better than Windows Phone.
If they just had kept Maemo/MeeGo, it would've gone much further. Just look at what N900 can do FCam, despite it having a 5MP sensor.

ADDED:
Here's a comparison done for L920 against SIII and iPhone5, although not really a  proper comparison but think of it as regular user taking these shots. Just as I predicted, actions shot it's practically useless, but in lowlight/dark areas, is where it excels.

http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-920-p...s-iii-01255193/

http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-lumia-920-p...one-5-05255660/
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Fcam very superb! Couldn't argue with that! thumbup.gif

I think I needed to use back my N8.. So far I am deeply satisfied with its camera's output.. my 808 PureView now jahanam, I will buy new one if they fix the damn banding issue and ISO shutter speed shakehead.gif
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Fcam very superb! Couldn't argue with that!  thumbup.gif

I think I needed to use back my N8.. So far I am deeply satisfied with its camera's output.. my 808 PureView now jahanam, I will buy new one if they fix the damn banding issue and ISO shutter speed  shakehead.gif
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And we have FCam....

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Some light reading on how Lumia 920 takes up on 808 PureView, Lumia 900, HTC One X and lastly N8 in photography department icon_idea.gif

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...okia_808_vs.php

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...o_head_Noki.php

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Some light reading on how Lumia 920 takes up on 808 PureView, Lumia 900, HTC One X and lastly N8 in photography department icon_idea.gif

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...okia_808_vs.php

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...o_head_Noki.php
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Some light reading on how Lumia 920 takes up on 808 PureView, Lumia 900, HTC One X and lastly N8 in photography department icon_idea.gif

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...okia_808_vs.php

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...o_head_Noki.php
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LoL, N8 blows L920 out of water.

As for 808 comparison, they forgot the main strength of 808, the 38MP file or the lossless zoom.
They compare lowlight with static object which is the strength of L920 due to it's Optical Stabilizer, so of course it will be better than 808 because it's able to use slow shutter hand held. If 808 is on tripod and able to use similar exposure, then we'll see which can actually take better overall quality picture.
The main strength of 808 is the extremely high megapixel picture (38MP) or we can use lossless zoom, when you use PureView 3MP mode, you can zoom in quite a lot and yet getting true 3MP with amazing detail, try that with other phone cameras and see, you'll be shocked by the BIG difference.

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LoL, N8 blows L920 out of water.

As for 808 comparison, they forgot the main strength of 808, the 38MP file or the lossless zoom.
They compare lowlight with static object which is the strength of L920 due to it's Optical Stabilizer, so of course it will be better than 808 because it's able to use slow shutter hand held. If 808 is on tripod and able to use similar exposure, then we'll see which can actually take better overall quality picture.
The main strength of 808 is the extremely high megapixel picture (38MP) or we can use lossless zoom, when you use PureView 3MP mode, you can zoom in quite a lot and yet getting true 3MP with amazing detail, try that with other phone cameras and see, you'll be shocked by the BIG difference.
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Couldn't Agree more on how the second best camera phone is still holding up strong:) let alone low light comparison (still N8 got proper Xenon to freeze the scene, not some fancy name "LED" flash)

PureView does initially improved over the standard 8MP shooter and sets a new benchmark in low light condition, but they still need more that what they have to take down even the second best camera phone down in daylight detailed resolution, N8 does not even have the PureView tech back then. (That is why "rumor" says every new firmware upgrades of N8 recently, is to turn down N8 imaging department, some users reported that image quality is lesser than previous firmware, yet to confirm this statement though)

Sadly, this is how they want to segment these 2 different PureView phones in different camera category (Marketing PR), as Nokia has past the point of no return by alliance with M$ for their future sad.gif

Nokia can work phase 1 + 2 or even 3 (unknown) in the initial 808 or future symbian (if there is going to be any), but then this definitely will steal the light of Lumia series camera phone feature and that M$ & Nokia CEO wont be so happy about it:D since they have already rip every bits of symbian development to M$ private use...

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LoL, N8 blows L920 out of water.

As for 808 comparison, they forgot the main strength of 808, the 38MP file or the lossless zoom.
They compare lowlight with static object which is the strength of L920 due to it's Optical Stabilizer, so of course it will be better than 808 because it's able to use slow shutter hand held. If 808 is on tripod and able to use similar exposure, then we'll see which can actually take better overall quality picture.
The main strength of 808 is the extremely high megapixel picture (38MP) or we can use lossless zoom, when you use PureView 3MP mode, you can zoom in quite a lot and yet getting true 3MP with amazing detail, try that with other phone cameras and see, you'll be shocked by the BIG difference.
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Nicely said he focus on l920 strength sure it wins.

808 pureview have lossless zoom and 38mp max resolution shot.sure imagine if he shake on 808 pureview or other camera will look bad even he shake on l920 still looks good.
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QUOTE(realjazzcoke @ Dec 1 2012, 10:02 AM)
Some light reading on how Lumia 920 takes up on 808 PureView, Lumia 900, HTC One X and lastly N8 in photography department icon_idea.gif

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...okia_808_vs.php

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...o_head_Noki.php
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For lumia 920, as long as it's better than all the other phones except Nokia....it's ok edi.

1) 808 pureview
2) N8
3) Lumia 920

Top 3 best camera phones still Nokia. smile.gif
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For lumia 920, as long as it's better than all the other phones except Nokia....it's ok edi.

1) 808 pureview
2) N8
3) Lumia 920

Top 3 best camera phones still Nokia. smile.gif
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u sure? Nokia already selling their castle to gain $$... whistling.gif

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_sells_its_he...e-news-5158.php
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For lumia 920, as long as it's better than all the other phones except Nokia....it's ok edi.

1) 808 pureview
2) N8
3) Lumia 920

Top 3 best camera phones still Nokia. smile.gif
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tomorrow i test for you

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 5 2012, 06:08 PM)
u sure? Nokia already selling their castle to gain $$...  whistling.gif

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_sells_its_he...e-news-5158.php
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 5 2012, 07:45 PM)
tomorrow i test for you

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For lumia 920, as long as it's better than all the other phones except Nokia....it's ok edi.

1) 808 pureview
2) N8
3) Lumia 920

Top 3 best camera phones still Nokia. smile.gif
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Nah, it's not bad, just not as expected from the "next" PureView.

As for the phone, it depends on the users; Most people main concern are apps/games, the eco-system, then the OS stability and speed (it doesn't have to be the fastest, although some people can be very particular like open contacts took 0.2 seconds longer than XXX OS sweat.gif )

As long Windows Phone brings in most of the important demanding apps, and with good price, it will start gain more users; but then, they forgot that some people purchase and spend a lot of money on Apple Store or Google Playstore. Switching platform may not be a good choice, imagine they have to repurchase all again? Unless MS or Nokia can do something about it, this can be also one major key point.
Nokia itself already done something bad, those who actually purchase apps/games in their Symbian devices especially, all burned... (ooohhh, burning platform)


QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Dec 5 2012, 07:45 PM)
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 5 2012, 06:08 PM)
u sure? Nokia already selling their castle to gain $$...  whistling.gif

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_sells_its_he...e-news-5158.php
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nokia sell and lease their castle, which is good, many shops/tenders can resides inside nokia castle, rather than nokia stuffs related alone
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nokia sell and lease their castle, which is good, many shops/tenders can resides inside nokia castle, rather than nokia stuffs related alone
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hohoho...

L820 - RRP RM1599
L920 - RRP RM1999

wow!!! what an impressive price tag... doh.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 3:03 pmRM1599 is the price i paid for my note2... LOL laugh.gif

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 6 2012, 03:03 PM)
hohoho...

L820 - RRP RM1599
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wow!!! what an impressive price tag... doh.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 3:03 pmRM1599 is the price i paid for my note2... LOL laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 6 2012, 03:03 PM)
hohoho...

L820 - RRP RM1599
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wow!!! what an impressive price tag... doh.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 3:03 pmRM1599 is the price i paid for my note2... LOL laugh.gif
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lol, nokia malaysia slowly wants to get back to charge premium for their device..rm2.5k mark
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good loh... nice pricing range... thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 6 2012, 04:03 PM)
hohoho...

L820 - RRP RM1599
L920 - RRP RM1999

wow!!! what an impressive price tag... doh.gif


Added on December 6, 2012, 3:03 pmRM1599 is the price i paid for my note2... LOL laugh.gif
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the pricing is out? where you get it??
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Cannot really find the proper app to upload the [full size] of the photo, especially when it is 38mp [12mb]

any apps in nokia store can help?

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hey bro. I kinda noob in this nokia app. Now i seriously struggling apps that can upload to blogger.. tumblr etc.
Cannot really find the proper app to upload the [full size] of the photo, especially when it is 38mp [12mb]

any apps in nokia store can help?

icon_question.gif need your guide bro!
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i use pixelpipe to upload to flickr.com direct or u can just email to a flickr link given by flickr i will be uploaded.
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i use pixelpipe to upload to flickr.com direct or u can just email to a flickr link given by flickr i will be uploaded.
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will the photo size compressed?
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i dont notice any compression when uploaded.
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cool. flickr the best so far. yet i still like instagram ...

well, I think i move my photoalbum site to tumblr instead of blogger. lol.
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cool. flickr the best so far. yet i still like instagram  ...

well, I think i move my photoalbum site to tumblr instead of blogger. lol.
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instagram da worse it crop the photo then reduce the image quality.
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instagram da worse it crop the photo then reduce the image quality.
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i dont like that because i prefer more control over my photos before upload to instagram.
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Not bad? You can buy a Galaxy S3 for the price of L820!
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Dec 12 2012, 11:31 AM)
Not bad? You can buy a Galaxy S3 for the price of L820!
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Galaxy S3 seems more or less equal with L820, so why can't L820 be that price? It's still a bit cheaper than S3.
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Dec 12 2012, 03:16 PM)
Galaxy S3 seems more or less equal with L820, so why can't L820 be that price? It's still a bit cheaper than S3.
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Huh? Less or equal? L820? How you compare less or equal? Hardware?
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Those days single core WP7 is as fast as a dual core Android. So I guess it applies here as well, dual core WP8 as fast as quad core Android. sweat.gif Dual core krait somemore.
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Dec 13 2012, 02:16 PM)
Those days single core WP7 is as fast as a dual core Android. So I guess it applies here as well, dual core WP8 as fast as quad core Android. sweat.gif Dual core krait somemore.
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Well, both OS are very different, one is a locked down simple OS, another is a flexible, customizable OS; it's not really fair to compare.
Comparing both OS, in terms of stability, smoothness, speed, WP surely wins, but it's restricted, little customization, etc. Both are very different in fact, WP is more toward iOS style but less restricted, more flexible and more customizable, more lively.

If comparing price, all OS have it's own value, and it also depends on the user. So, to Mr. A maybe they feel all OS are the same, and which one is faster means better, but to Mr. B, he maybe looking for a proper smartphone, a true mobile computer OS, in this case, it will be different story.

But anyway, there's no right or wrong, as long as the person is satisfied with the device. In terms of hardware and classification of the device though, the L820 should be mid-range which should be below S3, L920 should be the more proper competitor against S3.
Just like cars, there is different category and classifications, like B Segment, C Segment, D Segment. New generation cars are bigger, but it's still the same category/segment.



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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 13 2012, 02:34 PM)
Well, both OS are very different, one is a locked down simple OS, another is a flexible, customizable OS; it's not really  fair to compare.
Comparing both OS, in terms of stability, smoothness, speed, WP surely wins, but it's restricted, little customization, etc. Both are very different in fact, WP is more toward iOS style but less restricted, more flexible and more customizable, more lively.

If comparing price, all OS have it's own value, and it also depends on the user. So, to Mr. A maybe they feel all OS are the same, and which one is faster means better, but to Mr. B, he maybe looking for a proper smartphone, a true mobile computer OS, in this case, it will be different story.

But anyway, there's no right or wrong, as long as the person is satisfied with the device. In terms of hardware and classification of the device though, the L820 should be mid-range which should be below S3, L920 should be the more proper competitor against S3.
Just like cars, there is different category and classifications, like B Segment, C Segment, D Segment. New generation cars are bigger, but it's still the same category/segment.
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Oh ya u are right. But it's also not very fair to compare the price since S3 RM16xx is dealer price. If compare retail price, S3 RM1999 vs L820 RM1599 edi. But for dealer price, I believe it will take some time for L820 price to drop drastically.
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Oh ya u are right. But it's also not very fair to compare the price since S3 RM16xx is dealer price. If compare retail price, S3 RM1999 vs L820 RM1599 edi. But for dealer price, I believe it will take some time for L820 price to drop drastically.
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Yes, should be RRP price, and RRP for S3 when launch is RM2199?

As long as it's popular, the price should be able to maintain and won't drop like crazy like the previous Lumias. The previous Lumia mainly due to WP7 and also the announcement that it cannot be upgraded to WP8.
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QUOTE(danielcmugen @ Dec 13 2012, 02:16 PM)
Those days single core WP7 is as fast as a dual core Android. So I guess it applies here as well, dual core WP8 as fast as quad core Android. sweat.gif Dual core krait somemore.
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How do you define fast? Scrolling flat 2D menu with simple 2 colour tiles up and down?
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This is a real error message from Lumia 920. I'm not sure how you are supposed to insert a Windows installation disk into a phone.






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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Dec 16 2012, 01:09 PM)
This is a real error message from Lumia 920. I'm not sure how you are supposed to insert a Windows installation disk into a phone.
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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Dec 16 2012, 01:01 PM)
How do you define fast? Scrolling flat 2D menu with simple 2 colour tiles up and down?
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Web browsing smoothness also I think. I mean high end single core Android vs high end single core WP7.
Or just overall usage. Dual core Android just play with it in the shop also can feel some lag on the animation and all that.

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This is a real error message from Lumia 920. I'm not sure how you are supposed to insert a Windows installation disk into a phone.
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Web browsing smoothness also I think. I mean high end single core Android vs high end single core WP7.
Or just overall usage. Dual core Android just play with it in the shop also can feel some lag on the animation and all that.
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sometimes i just wonder is it the andriod use some custom skin or what make it laggish ?

how about try both in vanilla one tongue.gif


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im so surprise symbian thread still active.
anyway,i would like to voice out my user review after few months usage.
the camera capabilities are simply awesome and unbeatable in phone territory.Rich sound recording are another add value feature as well.other than that,the video recording capabilities makes me proud of owning 808 when show it to my friend.Ovi Maps(symbian) used to be 1 of the top in mapping navigation but now ovi maps in symbian isn't competitive enough as compare to other platform like ovi maps in windows phone 8,waze in the android etc.

other that the advantages i stated as above,the others are disadvantages....
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sometimes i just wonder is it the andriod use some custom skin or what make it laggish ?

how about try both in vanilla one tongue.gif
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There're many factors, but technicals aside, to make it simple.
If you create something SIMPLE, it will surely be easy to manage, smooth, fast, etc.
Imagine if there is a BIG concert, but there is ONLY ONE entrance, in terms of security and controls, it's very easy to control and you don't to hire many people (manpower and resources). If you open MANY doors, you need to have more security, more manpower and resources, you need to control and manage, update the list, sooo many more things and it's much more harder to coordinate and communicate.

In terms of OS, to make it simple, we use Windows as sample and imagine you're in IT department which controls user's priviledge, accounts, networks, etc. If you control strictly the each user account, means give them a very restricted and limited account priviledge so they cannot install software, they only allow to run and use "allowed" applications, they can only access certain folders/drives, they can only see certain file types, etc. The more strict and limitations you provide, the easier to control your user and less problems.
But would you want to use such computer as your personal computer at home???

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Dec 17 2012, 09:48 AM)
There're many factors, but technicals aside, to make it simple.
If you create something SIMPLE, it will surely be easy to manage, smooth, fast, etc.
Imagine if there is a BIG concert, but there is ONLY ONE entrance, in terms of security and controls, it's very easy to control and you don't to hire many people (manpower and resources). If you open MANY doors, you need to have more security, more manpower and resources, you need to control and manage, update the list, sooo many more things and it's much more harder to coordinate and communicate.

In terms of OS, to make it simple, we use Windows as sample and imagine you're in IT department which controls user's priviledge, accounts, networks, etc. If you control strictly the each user account, means give them a very restricted and limited account priviledge so they cannot install software, they only allow to run and use "allowed" applications, they can only access certain folders/drives, they can only see certain file types, etc. The more strict and limitations you provide, the easier to control your user and less problems.
But would you want to use such computer as your personal computer at home???
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ya i mean this, window mobile now still so far dont have custom skin yet right?

about my personal computer, i dont install much rubbish also, only some 2-3 useful apps in chrome browser and i also disabled AERO theme, useless lol. nearly want to switch window 95 theme.
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ya i mean this, window mobile now still so far dont have custom skin yet right?

about my personal computer, i dont install much rubbish also, only some 2-3 useful apps in chrome browser and i also disabled AERO theme, useless lol. nearly want to switch window 95 theme.
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Not sure, but those skin also don't do much because Windows Phone is using tiles which is controlled and restricted, unlike Widgets on Symbian, Android.
Windows Mobile is different from Windows Phone, Windows Mobile have proper homescreen and more flexible and less restricted.

As for your personal computer, it's depends on how each person use, understanding, RESPONSIBILITY, etc. A proper smartphone, which suppose to work like a mobile computer, will give flexibility, customizations, and this is important for the user to know, understand and be responsible.
Of course, nowadays PC are fast, powerful; Imagine those old days, how many user will complain the PC are slow and laggy, crash, etc, worst when many user are NEW to computer, and very impatience, they will bang the mouse, bang the keyboard, kick the CPU, etc. Imagine those days without even Streamyx, using dial-ups only, how those people bear with the internet speed? I used to play online games with dial-ups, Strategy Games still OK, imagine racing games, the cars will dissapear and reappear, etc. For those people who don't understand, impatience and just don't care, will complain to the max, which won't help or fix anything.

We have many choices now, go for the device/OS which suit your needs.
As example, don't get a "fuel-saving car" and try to race/speed like sports performance car, then complain the car has no power and not fuel saving. Similarly, if one gets a performance sports car, no point complain the car fuel consumption is higher than normal car.

For me, I don't need super smooth/fast smartphone. That's not the important thing for smartphone, smartphone is about mobile computing in a phone. smooth/fast is GOOD to have, but most important it it's able to provide me the flexibility, customization or like a mini computer. It's not a must to have like 0.5 seconds faster when opening Contacts, it's a NICE to have, but not a must. I would prefer to have the flexibility and customization, instead of being controlled and restricted. Imagine buying a entry level DSLR, but you cannot access manual mode.....

It depends on each user/customer, some don't need those flexibility/customization, hence there're different OS choice to suit different user needs; The problem here is, these flexiblity/customization is not something the OS cannot give/provide, is the company decides NOT to give to the customers/users, so in short, we're being short-changed, just like I said, imagine a entry level DSLR, and they remove the manual mode because they want to restrict and control the users. Imagine they come out with different versions of Windows OS for PC/Laptop, and default version they give with limitations and restrictions, you cannot see all files, you cannot simply install applications, etc. so now they can reduce "user issues".


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haha

for me, i need minimal waiting time to start an apps/ open apps/program.
customize or not, as long as clean enough is okay.
and my PC is core 2 duo only sweat.gif
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haha

for me, i need minimal waiting time to start an apps/ open apps/program.
customize or not, as long as clean enough is okay.
and my PC is core 2 duo only  sweat.gif
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Yup, minimal is normal, or like acceptable performance/speed at least. As a user, the user should also know how to utilize and be responsible, it's the same theory to any products, if the person upgrades to a sports car, the person needs to know how to handle and utilize it, accept the harder ride (less comfort) to sacrifice for better handling, higher fuel consumption, etc. In terms of camera example, if one upgrade to a DSLR with bigger sensor, one needs to understand the changes in DOF, using and framing with the viewfinder, difference in auto-focus, lens, apertures, etc.

Let's say iOS, it's very restricted and limited, no homescreen, no file manager, not allowed to view other files types, everything goes through iTunes, no flexibility/customization and very simple/straightforward for the user. It's good for users to pickup and learn, but there's no room for them to improve and they will forever stuck and rely on these features and never thought they can actually do this or that with a real smartphone. With this mindset, when they see other smartphone which is more capable, flexible and customizable, it looks "complicated", "scary", "hard to learn and use". If a user use a simple camera without much buttons or dial, just point and shoot, it's simple and easy to use right? Pass them a DSLR with all buttons, modes, multiple dials, complex menu, lenses, etc. It "complicated" ,"scary", "hard to learn and use". But... actually, both can still use AUTO mode.
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yet again andy u r dam right rclxms.gif i must agree with all your points rclxms.gif

since "complicated/scary/hard 2 learn n use" is not in my vocabulary,,,i going 2 use windows 8 soon laugh.gif that is another new thing i going 2 use bsides android haha laugh.gif

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Dec 17 2012, 11:47 PM)
yet again andy u r dam right rclxms.gif i must agree with all your points rclxms.gif

since "complicated/scary/hard 2 learn n use" is not in my vocabulary,,,i going 2 use windows 8 soon laugh.gif that is another new thing i going 2 use bsides android haha laugh.gif
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RM999
izzit worth to buy?

http://www.becazo.com/dealDetail.htm?id=1e...0f-8a22fffb603c

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QUOTE(quezone @ Dec 21 2012, 12:12 PM)
Still waiting for Zitron to reply my email. 1K for its camera is quite worthy.

Called Zitron twice but no one can confirm its validity since the person in charge has not come in for work.
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yes, can use as pure camera, lol
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yes, can use as pure camera, lol
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Can you proceed?

Got stuck at Your transaction is being processed and status will be displayed on another Pop-up window.

Then nothing happened.

Tried IE also stuck... but since no need key in payment info, reserved first la...

My browser blocked the pop up payment page earlier... thus I will correct my statement.

You'll need to pay when you place the order.

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999 for pureview 808 is a heck of a good deal.
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Can you proceed?

Got stuck at Your transaction is being processed and status will be displayed on another Pop-up window.

Then nothing happened.

Tried IE also stuck... but since no need key in payment info, reserved first la...
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i have not decided to go for it yet, stil have 11 days to consider smile.gif

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Finally OK... need to unblock pop up...
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u wait 11 days if suddenly everyone buy suddenly become not available you will regret.

999 for a 41MP is heck of a good deal.
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Update:

Zitron has confirmed with me that it is a valid deal. RM999 plus RM25 (delivery for Peninsular) for a brand new Nokia Pureview 808. Its part of their deal with Bacazo and Mastercard. I believe that would require payment by locally issued Mastercard.

The bad news... well, the earliest shipping date would be on 16th January 2013. Those who have always wanted a cheap 808, there you go. No need to beg 2nd seller to sell it to you at RM1k. I believe this promotion will eventually make those who bought not too long ago weep like a baby.
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cool, great deal indeed
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Update:

Zitron has confirmed with me that it is a valid deal. RM999 plus RM25 (delivery for Peninsular) for a brand new Nokia Pureview 808. Its part of their deal with Bacazo and Mastercard. I believe that would require payment by locally issued Mastercard.

The bad news... well, the earliest shipping date would be on 16th January 2013. Those who have always wanted a cheap 808, there you go. No need to beg 2nd seller to sell it to you at RM1k. I believe this promotion will eventually make those who bought not too long ago weep like a baby.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 21 2012, 03:26 PM)
Update:

Zitron has confirmed with me that it is a valid deal. RM999 plus RM25 (delivery for Peninsular) for a brand new Nokia Pureview 808. Its part of their deal with Bacazo and Mastercard. I believe that would require payment by locally issued Mastercard.

The bad news... well, the earliest shipping date would be on 16th January 2013. Those who have always wanted a cheap 808, there you go. No need to beg 2nd seller to sell it to you at RM1k. I believe this promotion will eventually make those who bought not too long ago weep like a baby.
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Any info on the payment date? after u place the booking, does it tell you when to make the payment?
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Any info on the payment date? after u place the booking, does it tell you when to make the payment?
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Just to update.

Earlier, my browser blocked the pop up window which result in the payment page not loading. So I will correct my earlier statement. Your card will be charged when you place the order.


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Bro,

So hard to understand? See the website for yourself.

There's no COD, just shipping.

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808 works with garmin but just the software is very outdated
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fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

rm999????? what??????? if i am at malaysia rite now i would buy it once again!!!!
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rm999????? what??????? if i am at malaysia rite now i would buy it once again!!!!
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wah so syok 808 same price with lumia 800 laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif !!!!!!!! NEW???
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shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  !!!!!!!! NEW???
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Wipe your tears now... whistling.gif
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i need to cry.gif can i have the white one for xmas present? cry.gif

gosh.
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i need to  cry.gif  can i have the white one for xmas present?  cry.gif

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How's the functioning of 808's keyboard ? Will it be too small for a medium size finger ?
Scare I can hardly type on the keyboard like the one on nokia 5800 xm. Any lagging with this phone when typing or scrolling up and down on the menu ?
Thanks for the feedback !
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typing sms on a symbian is always been challenging. So if u plan to get this phone for typing you will have a hell of a fun time to get it right haha
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Ok then. Better save back the 1k and n9's(digi is free) money for L920.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 22 2012, 09:13 AM)
Buy lor... Enter your house address and get your parents to send it over to you.
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QUOTE(foxxy @ Dec 25 2012, 01:01 AM)
Ok then. Better save back the 1k and n9's(digi is free) money for L920.
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L920 has some interesting stuffs. Perhaps useful for taking pics in karaoke and pubs or disco.
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anyone ordered from becazo? Thinking on whether should get it or not..
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Going to order soon. Just need to top up RM250 after giving up my Nexus7.

Saw my friend's white unit and quite nice. Wonder if it will turns yellowish.

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I would think compared to Digi Nokia 920 offer of RM1099 and this Nokia 808 RM999, 920 could well be a better option considering its software longevity. Unless you just want to use 808 as mobile photo/video shooter only.


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QUOTE(foxxy @ Dec 25 2012, 01:01 AM)
Ok then. Better save back the 1k and n9's(digi is free) money for L920.
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for your info, N9 is out of stock in digi store too..
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I don't think out of stock more like no more taking stock
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I don't think out of stock more like no more taking stock
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anyone is running at FP 2 now? Any issue discovered? whats is the difference between FP2 and FP1?
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anyone is running at FP 2 now? Any issue discovered? whats is the difference between FP2 and FP1?
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What's your unit color? Any discoloration ?
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black, no discoloration found. jz wana know what is the difference between FP1 & FP2 only
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black, no discoloration found. jz wana know what is the difference between FP1 & FP2 only
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Argh, dammit, anyone with a Malaysia issued Mastercard here can help me with the Becazo offer? I'll transfer the required money to you, and you buy it for me.

In b4 this going to attract scammer.
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Argh, dammit, anyone with a Malaysia issued Mastercard here can help me with the Becazo offer? I'll transfer the required money to you, and you buy it for me.

In b4 this going to attract scammer.
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I already confirm can buy it COD at Nokia authorized shop but with RM 500 deposit n only can collect it after 1month.
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I already confirm can buy it COD at Nokia authorized shop but with RM 500 deposit n only can collect it after 1month.
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with the price of 1k too??
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QUOTE(tattchye @ Dec 28 2012, 06:02 AM)
I already confirm can buy it COD at Nokia authorized shop but with RM 500 deposit n only can collect it after 1month.
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Wow... great find buddy... can check kao kao somemore unlike me who will wait for the shipment. Should be cheaper too as we paid RM20 more (after deduct RM5 opening account rebate) for shipping.

Update: Black and White only... no Red... sigh... Was aiming red since was going to use as a camera.


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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 28 2012, 09:14 AM)
Wow... great find buddy... can check kao kao somemore unlike me who will wait for the shipment. Should be cheaper too as we paid RM20 more (after deduct RM5 opening account rebate) for shipping.

Update: Black and White only... no Red... sigh... Was aiming red since was going to use as a camera.
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I also love the red colour too, too bad it don't have
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QUOTE(tattchye @ Dec 28 2012, 06:02 AM)
I already confirm can buy it COD at Nokia authorized shop but with RM 500 deposit n only can collect it after 1month.
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You mean to buy it from Nokia at the price of RM999 too ?
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You mean to buy it from Nokia at the price of RM999 too ?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 25 2012, 10:42 AM)
L920 has some interesting stuffs. Perhaps useful for taking pics in karaoke and pubs or disco.
Good for Mr. Chua Soi Lek with his sex education disc...
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QUOTE(tattchye @ Dec 28 2012, 01:43 PM)
Yes, last X'mas went to Queen's Bay Mall Penang Nokia authorized shop explain to me.
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Thats very cheap ! Everyone should get one ! Just treat it as handphone, camera cum GPS, no need Data plan at all, and it works wonder !

Recently we use its GPS to drive all the way from Penang to Krabi, works wonder ! And we have no data plan in that phone. I tested the GPS function, even works in the middle of the sea during our boat ride to islands off Krabi too. It has very good GPS sensor on board, much better than my Iphone 3GS.
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QUOTE(peter32 @ Dec 28 2012, 04:11 PM)
Thats very cheap !  Everyone should get one !  Just treat it as handphone, camera cum GPS, no need Data plan at all, and it works wonder !

Recently we use its GPS to drive all the way from Penang to Krabi, works wonder !  And we have no data plan in that phone.  I tested the GPS function, even works in the middle of the sea during our boat ride to islands off Krabi too.  It has very good GPS sensor on board, much better than my Iphone 3GS.
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just a "little" bit too late... yawn.gif
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damn it..rm999 only..really tempted to get 1 now..argh
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damn it..rm999 only..really tempted to get 1 now..argh
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QUOTE(sklchan @ Dec 28 2012, 05:18 PM)
just a "little" bit too late...  yawn.gif
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1K only... sap sap water for you lar...

Even my foreign worker is interested after I sold him my N8... kept asking me installment can aa, LOL
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Seems like i shd go Nokia Store to book 1~ XD
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QUOTE(peter32 @ Dec 28 2012, 04:11 PM)
Thats very cheap !  Everyone should get one !  Just treat it as handphone, camera cum GPS, no need Data plan at all, and it works wonder !

Recently we use its GPS to drive all the way from Penang to Krabi, works wonder !  And we have no data plan in that phone.  I tested the GPS function, even works in the middle of the sea during our boat ride to islands off Krabi too.  It has very good GPS sensor on board, much better than my Iphone 3GS.
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looks like i got the reason not 2 burn my N8 away after i get new upgrade laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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looks like i got the reason not 2 burn my N8 away after i get new upgrade laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(tattchye @ Dec 28 2012, 06:02 AM)
I already confirm can buy it COD at Nokia authorized shop but with RM 500 deposit n only can collect it after 1month.
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Anymore details on it? Thx

I saw the offer but I am too skeptical/paranoid to purchase through some random site I never heard of b4.

What/How to tell/ask those shopkeeper? Why the RM500 deposit? What do it means by after 1month?


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Yes, last X'mas went to Queen's Bay Mall Penang Nokia authorized shop explain to me.
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Also need MasterCard? Can cash deal?

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 29 2012, 01:43 AM)
Anymore details on it? Thx

I saw the offer but I am too skeptical/paranoid to purchase through some random site I never heard of b4.

What/How to tell/ask those shopkeeper? Why the RM500 deposit? What do it means by after 1month?


Added on December 29, 2012, 1:48 am
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Bro,

Dont worry. This is a valid deal. I already confirmed with Zitron marketting manager that it is indeed valild. I did not snapshot the email because the manager has removed his email from Becazo site and instead direct all email enquiries to his assistant already. You can still email or call Ivy Tung of Zitron to confirm but she's on leave. She does reply her emails though.


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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 29 2012, 09:25 AM)
Bro,

Dont worry. This is a valid deal. I already confirmed with Zitron marketting manager that it is indeed valild. I did not snapshot the email because the manager has removed his email from Becazo site and instead direct all email enquiries to his assistant already. You can still email or call Ivy Tung of Zitron to confirm but she's on leave. She does reply her emails though.
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hmm, then the process of it is like below?

1. Order and pay for a coupon at RM999
2. Register the coupon at the google.docs for shipping details
3. Wait for the shipping when the time come?


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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 29 2012, 12:16 PM)
hmm, then the process of it is like below?

1. Order and pay for a coupon at RM999
2. Register the coupon at the google.docs for shipping details
3. Wait for the shipping when the time come?
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It seem to be the case. I only ask for shipping date and was told starts on 16th January.
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It seem to be the case. I only ask for shipping date and was told starts on 16th January.
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hmm, very much thanks for the info

I still left 2days to made up my decision, lol...
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Just made payment.. hope its ok.

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QUOTE(zero_kbom @ Dec 28 2012, 04:27 AM)
Argh, dammit, anyone with a Malaysia issued Mastercard here can help me with the Becazo offer? I'll transfer the required money to you, and you buy it for me.

In b4 this going to attract scammer.
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Hmm, anyone faced problem like this when buying from becazo? About an hour after my transaction been approved, they send me another email telling me that its been rejected... Strange...
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Hmm, anyone faced problem like this when buying from becazo? About an hour after my transaction been approved, they send me another email telling me that its been rejected... Strange...
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No wonder I seen the numbers sold decrease from 47 to 46.

Have you tried calling your banks? It has to be a locally issued Mastercard.
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No wonder I seen the numbers sold decrease from 47 to 46.

Have you tried calling your banks? It has to be a locally issued Mastercard.
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Hmm, seems like a rm 38 is tried to charge on my credit card after the first transaction, do you get this? And since i didnt bring that phone out with me, i didnt noticed until now. but i still got the voucher on my account on becazo tho...
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Hmm, anyone faced problem like this when buying from becazo? About an hour after my transaction been approved, they send me another email telling me that its been rejected... Strange...
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Ya...same with me. After i receive the e-mail(preAuthRejected) ,i call to bank(me use debit master card),he say my payment is susceed and nothing wrong. Afterthat i received 2 e-mail from Becazo about teaching how to download the voucher.

You can try to call your bank to conform...

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QUOTE(Biotherm8 @ Jan 1 2013, 08:46 PM)
Ya...same with me. After i receive the e-mail(preAuthRejected) ,i call to bank(me use debit master card),he say my payment is susceed and nothing wrong. Afterthat i received 2 e-mail from Becazo about teaching how to download the voucher.

You try to call your bank to conform...
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Thanks, i think mine is okay then, i get preAuth Approved, then voucher downloading mail, then preAuth Rejected.. Did you get a rm 38 charges or something? Because i get a secure code msg for a rm 38 items, but i didnt do any online shopping...
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QUOTE(noobs @ Jan 1 2013, 08:56 PM)
Thanks, i think mine is okay then, i get preAuth Approved, then voucher downloading mail, then preAuth Rejected.. Did you get a rm 38 charges or something? Because i get a secure code msg for a rm 38 items, but i didnt do any online shopping...
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I didn't receive another charges after the first transaction.
The RedemptionForm you submit first and tomorrow try to asking Credit Card or Bank.
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I didn't receive another charges after the first transaction.
The  RedemptionForm you submit first and tomorrow try to asking Credit Card or Bank.
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Well, becazo just replied my email and says that its ok.. hopefully can get it soon.. thanks for your help...
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Spam test video

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love the 808 pureview audio quality always
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Sifu, in my original file, can see the lyrics and the visual is sharper. Oh, the drums also clearer, clearer than when I heards it live, lol
There's another one from the same function with Miss Msia Universe 2013 talking, looks too overexposed(white), I think that one was auto mode.

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Sifu, in my original file, can see the lyrics and the visual is sharper. Oh, the drums also clearer, clearer than when I heards it live, lol
There's another one from the same function with Miss Msia Universe 2013 talking, looks too overexposed(white), I think that one was auto mode.
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Can see the lyrics what... even on iPad2 1024x768
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Can see the lyrics what... even on iPad2 1024x768
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Dunno, maybe my eyes sepet, when I play it on the youtube, the lyrics and humans blur, drum beat not so distinct. Original clear, I thought due to the auto conversion to flv by youtube
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http://mynokiablog.com/2013/01/02/firmware...a-808-pureview/

new firmware released! try it out, I want to know your comments about it biggrin.gif
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http://mynokiablog.com/2013/01/02/firmware...a-808-pureview/

new firmware released! try it out, I want to know your comments about it  biggrin.gif
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Still no update on my phone. Still 1507
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Hmmm I was keen to upgrade my phone to 808 and hard reset my current n8 so to get back the good old camera performance. Any idea how much to pay for new unlocked unit in KL?

I am currently in Australia but the mobile co that i was in does not have 808 phone plan.
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malaysia promo can get RM999
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http://www.becazo.com/dealDetail.htm?id=1e...f-8a22fffb603c#

Offer already closed.
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some article that worth to share
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Rubbish article... basically says nothing new...
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Rubbish article... basically says nothing new...
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Dude, if you look for something NEW in "Symbian" man you going to be disappoint a lot.. lol whistling.gif
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Dude, if you look for something NEW in "Symbian" man you going to be disappoint a lot.. lol  whistling.gif
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There's reason why Nokia is popular, and just look at Lumia vs other WP. Nokia just need to give in sometimes and give the fans what they want. HD, FHD, Dual Core, 4.5inches, whatever. They are giving in now.


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QUOTE(minizian @ Jan 6 2013, 09:50 PM)
Hmmm I was keen to upgrade my phone to 808 and hard reset my current n8 so to get back the good old camera performance. Any idea how much to pay for new unlocked unit in KL?

I am currently in Australia but the mobile co that i was in does not have 808 phone plan.
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if you buy @ the nokia centre rm1599

QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 7 2013, 06:19 PM)
NEW? Are you kidding me? I dont want to debate anything about Symbian already. I dont look back.

There's reason why Nokia is popular, and just look at Lumia vs other WP. Nokia just need to give in sometimes and give the fans what they want. HD, FHD, Dual Core, 4.5inches, whatever. They are giving in now.
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they caved in too late already ..
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New Nokia 808 Pureview reporting in finally  tongue.gif  (Funny story : Bought from lowyat forum, the seller said had sold 3 units and all the buyers also come from Nokia N8 user including me)

First spam picture : Using a mirror and a cheap handphone tripod, captured the phone itself while using my i7 PC rig as background  tongue.gif  (Notice my rare black casing as well ? Cheap and good stuff !)

HDR photo captured using HDR Pro Camera app and process using its built in software  nod.gif
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Non HDR photo at 8MP resolution for comparison (My room is low light)
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Consider myself lucky, I had no problem doing manual flashing to FP2 and so far got no serious hang or crash after install few apps. Though, got some comments and tips after using two days :

a.) Continuous auto focus (CAF) in video mode - Not working very well especially for near object, have to touch focus or draw back a little to work. My N8 in macro mode works very well

b.) Camera sound - Again no option to turn off. My 808 set was flash with European firmware version which got the option to turn off but had to flash to Asia version to get chinese character support. No pervert mode for me  cry.gif

c.) Gallery & others - Like all people complaints => No option to multi-select for send via blue-tooth or FB in Gallery. The way the Gallery arrange its picture and video also didn't like (For me). No camera exit button and on screen volume control for music/radio (Fine for me)

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d.) Nokia browser - Don't bother, just go install Opera Mobile 12 with Asian language support. Remember to default it as the main browser application

e.) Camera apps - Just go install Camera Lover Pack. Fun and recommended !

f.) Wireless file transfer - Go install Dukto app (All app mentioned above - go search using google + keyword 'symbian or signed version'). Truly recommended. I transfer over 1 gig of data from my N8 via wifi to my 808 using this app. Also easy transfer between PC.

g.) Torchlight - While N8 got Redlight app, 808 didnt have any. BUT ..... hold the right slide unlock for 3 seconds and the back Xenon flash will light up !!! Very bright and to close it just do the same process

h.) Keyboard - The new keyboard is nice but just go install Swype. Works fine for me unlike other complaints

That's all for now. More to come when got time  cool.gif
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QUOTE(eligible @ Jan 7 2013, 10:57 PM)
bro, may i know where you buy the phone stand?
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How about this seller? biggrin.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1676651
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NEW? Are you kidding me? I dont want to debate anything about Symbian already. I dont look back.

There's reason why Nokia is popular, and just look at Lumia vs other WP. Nokia just need to give in sometimes and give the fans what they want. HD, FHD, Dual Core, 4.5inches, whatever. They are giving in now.
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How about this seller?  biggrin.gif
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1676651
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it seems not for nokiapv808 size..
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QUOTE(eligible @ Jan 8 2013, 01:36 PM)
it seems not for nokiapv808 size..
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My friend beli from this seller. Boleh punya. Beli version 2, get 2 holder rclxms.gif
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Becazo sent email confirmation regarding the order. Seem like shipment will be ontrack for 16/1/2013.
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My friend beli from this seller. Boleh punya. Beli version 2, get 2 holder  rclxms.gif
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lol thank you. i found one in ebay ald biggrin.gif
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Becazo sent email confirmation regarding the order. Seem like shipment will be ontrack for 16/1/2013.
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Btw, have anyone took a look at there website, nobody buy from they except the 808...
Cant wait to get mine..
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lol thank you. i found one in ebay ald biggrin.gif
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Another tripod? Link please tongue.gif
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Another tripod? Link please  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(eligible @ Jan 9 2013, 01:14 AM)
SAME biggrin.gif but more cheap rclxms.gif with 1 holder
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SAME  biggrin.gif but more cheap  rclxms.gif with 1 holder
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so sad... miss the RM999 deal... >.<
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From my experience eBay always cheap but you have to invest time for distance postage to arrive thumbup.gif
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Similar to the tripod we bought from physical shop. Shop one cost RM40 if I remember correctly.
The one you got from ebay is cheaper but postage cost?
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mostly for small item is cover by free postage already
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anyone can recommend the tripod from ebay?? =) Gonna jump from n8 to 808... //(^0^)//
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anyone tried mugen power 3000mah battery for nokia 808??

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/ite..._Extended_B.php

looks pretty nice making the 808 two-toned...
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anyone tried mugen power 3000mah battery for nokia 808??

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/ite..._Extended_B.php

looks pretty nice making the 808 two-toned...
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oh ok... thanks for replying... i'm getting the transformer yoobao instead already since it cheaper than USD$100...
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Mugen batteries is well known as ripoff battery maker based on HK. Their battery is not up to discharge level as advertise and they make fragile plastic with high price too.

Yea, buy external backup charger is way more cheaper.
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should i get tripod? >.< dunno whether will use it frequent or not...
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Tripod with camera holder is very cheap. Not durable though. So if you don't use it, it will be just nice.

I don't think that stuff can last for frequent use.

PS: I bought one like the one above. Used it a few times, the plastic broke, for two types of adaptors. So I ended up bought another one during KL photographic exhibition last year. That one I learn to be careful.
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oh... it should be expensive for you to be careful...

I want a tripod which is durable... >.< I dont like things which are easily spoilt... more like tahan lasak should be the word...
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Me too, I was looking for something durable, but its just not available in the market.

The mechanism of camera holder is just too fragile. If Nokia 808 come back with a Tripod hole on one side will be excellent ! Since this camera does come with timelapse photography feature (and I love it).
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haiz... I guess I'll wait till there's a durable tripod available to purchase it...
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ouch laugh.gif doh.gif anyway goodbye symbian...i m offically off 2 android soon hahahaha
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ouch laugh.gif doh.gif anyway goodbye symbian...i m offically off 2 android soon hahahaha
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ouch laugh.gif doh.gif anyway goodbye symbian...i m offically off 2 android soon hahahaha
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No offence but when you took some picture using the android phone you gona be miss high quality photo which symbian can offer smile.gif

mostly i see how android (IOS too) cover up picture noise by using apps effect. Ah... i miss those day without apps, Photoshop but only original picture~~~ blush.gif

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well i'm getting 808 because of the camera and symbian... because I already have an android tablet ( enough for gaming since it's 7" ) Well... dunno how to play with apps and photoshop anyway so it's just PUREVIEW picturesssss...
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No offence but when you took some picture using the android phone you gona be miss high quality photo which symbian can offer    smile.gif

mostly i see how android (IOS too) cover up picture noise by using apps effect. Ah... i miss those day without apps, Photoshop but only original picture~~~  blush.gif
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Low light bsi sensor roxxx. Day light it sux . 808 pureview at night without tripod its pratically useless
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anyway... TS pls add me to the owner list... (black color here... )
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I got a problem with my whatsapp on 808... cant seem able to type my messages as keyboard refuse to pop out... can send emoji and receive messages from others...

any solutions?
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congrats rclxms.gif n sowwee 2 hear the whatsapp problems right on day 1 ohmy.gif rclxub.gif did u update 2 the latest version

QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 11 2013, 10:45 AM)
can think of lumia 620 also wat... heard that it's around RM650 (lowest price around so far..)
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i m not grabbing this grandmother phone laugh.gif i m looking at 2k above phone minus ipone

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some crazy customization Juha did with our dear 808!! DAYMN HOT!! drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif drool.gif

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Jan 12 2013, 04:48 AM)
congrats rclxms.gif n sowwee 2 hear the whatsapp problems right on day 1 ohmy.gif rclxub.gif did u update 2 the latest version
i m not grabbing this grandmother phone laugh.gif i m looking at 2k above phone minus ipone
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I'm just wondering if anyone has yoobao transformer yb-651? because it can't charge my 808...
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I'm just wondering if anyone has yoobao transformer yb-651? because it can't charge my 808...
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Are you using the original cable that Yoobao supplied?

I bought a powerbank when I was in Taiwan and to my surprise, when using Nokia very own cable and successfully charge all kinds of phone like Note, S2, Incredible S, but unable to charge Nokia very own N8. Have to use the stock cable which only has 2 pin (IIRC) then only the N8 will charge.
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 12 2013, 08:37 AM)
Are you using the original cable that Yoobao supplied?

I bought a powerbank when I was in Taiwan and to my surprise, when using Nokia very own cable and successfully charge all kinds of phone like Note, S2, Incredible S, but unable to charge Nokia very own N8. Have to use the stock cable which only has 2 pin (IIRC) then only the N8 will charge.
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yep I tried using the stock cable by Yoobao... also doesnt seem to work... now feeling very "sien" coz I purposely get the yoobao to charge my 808 for future picture taking...

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yep I tried using the stock cable by Yoobao... also doesnt seem to work... now feeling very "sien" coz I purposely get the yoobao to charge my 808 for future picture taking...
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Is it when you first plug it in, it will display charging and almost immediately display cable disconnected or some error message like that?

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Is it when you first plug it in, it will display charging and almost immediately display cable disconnected or some error message like that?
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well... nothing happen at all when i plug in... >.< no error message / display charging...

i had other external charger but less power compared to yoobao but it can charge my 808... I got the yoobao since it's 13000mah ( intend to bring it to overseas trip instead of my several smaller powered but heavy ext.chargers... )
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 12 2013, 09:38 AM)
well... nothing happen at all when i plug in... >.< no error message / display charging...

i had other external charger but less power compared to yoobao but it can charge my 808... I got the yoobao since it's 13000mah ( intend to bring it to overseas trip instead of my several smaller powered but heavy ext.chargers... )
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Tried using the other charger's cable? Maybe you have a faulty unit? Does it charge other phone fine?
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jan 12 2013, 10:08 AM)
Tried using the other charger's cable? Maybe you have a faulty unit? Does it charge other phone fine?
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yeah.. tried using other charger cable as well... doesnt seem to work...

yet it can charge my nook & kindle 3 ( but my kindle fire also having the same problem as my 808... )
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just asking whether can 808 support 64gb??? quite tempted to get the memory card...

another question is the front camera... how come I can't use the front camera via the camera option???? is there a way for me to take pictures via front camera?

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some crazy customization Juha did with our dear 808!! DAYMN HOT!!  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif  drool.gif

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that looks like a stack of close up filters.
maybe his macro powerhouse tongue.gif
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found the solution to front camera... just download the Scam Free App from nokia store... to able to take picture using the front camera 640x320 is the size...

hope this would help others who would face the same problem with me...

I really wonder if anyone tried using 64gb memory card on 808? pls let me know the result?? I'm really hoping to know soon... notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 12 2013, 10:48 PM)
found the solution to front camera... just download the Scam Free App from nokia store... to able to take picture using the front camera 640x320 is the size...

hope this would help others who would face the same problem with me...

I really wonder if anyone tried using 64gb memory card on 808? pls let me know the result?? I'm really hoping to know soon...  notworthy.gif
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I use 64Gb Class 10 on my wife's 808, no problem.
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QUOTE(moniqee @ Jan 12 2013, 11:33 PM)
thank u thank u for replying...  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  I was still wondering whether to splurge on the memory card or not since it's only written on GSMarena up till 32GB...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Jan 13 2013, 12:06 AM)
mine always having the error appearing when using the 32gb card .. dunno is card prob or not .. lol
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