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 Nokia 808 - V03 - [The King of Camera Phones], the legendary 41mp phone cam hidden gem

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AlOnE89
post Oct 22 2012, 12:07 AM

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Random question from my cousin few days back:

"What would you choose between Nokia 808 vs Sony Nex F3?"

P.S: They're currently priced at RM1699 though.

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Nokia has made this pity soul's life tough because of this beast..eh sweat.gif
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post Oct 22 2012, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:58 AM)
Its not tough to decide because both device is totally different.
If his budget is 1699 for the next 3 years go for the 808 pureview

if his budget is not only 1699 but increase in few months to a year go for nex3
Next consideration is what type of photos he take?
If always fast action shots = NEX

if just simple random shots go for 808
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Actually ya, it's like comparing orange and apple :s

May I know why should he opt for Nex f3 if his budget were to increase in following months please? Because needed for maintenance and lenses?

My guess is.. next year will be his sister's wedding, so he might wan to take some good photographs, but at the same time pocketability is important since he will also be busy entertaining guests and relatives, kinda fussy eh :S
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post Oct 22 2012, 05:24 PM

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post Oct 22 2012, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Oct 22 2012, 05:47 PM)
only if you dont use camera for long time, actually my DSLR never put in "drybox". oh wait i dont even have it  whistling.gif

nah even my n8 beat my D70s in term of iso noise and lower light condition.  tongue.gif

but sharpness (pixel per count?) still DSLR win, 6mp raw vs 12mp JPEG

and got many room to edit for DSLR. because n8 got limited WB to choose so it is headache for wedding dinner shot.
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I think RX100 does support RAW file right? O.o
Just that they might need to convert it into another format to edit with photoshop (not too sure of that sweat.gif )
I wonder if pureview phase 3 will be raw format, that will be awesome lolololololol

QUOTE(little ice @ Oct 22 2012, 06:18 PM)
yeah, but since they can actually stick such big sensor into the phone, if they make the megapixels more sensible I think there'll be a better chance to compete with camera with 1 inch sensor (albeit still apples and oranges).
i owned 808 for some time now and  I can tell you that the best is to have both proper camera and any decent 8mp camera phone. my friend owned galaxy note and the pictures he took floored me, even his reputation being a hopeless camera man. for casual shooting you probably won't need anything better than that. even my other colleague took a shot with his S3 and printed A3 size nobody will actually thought its taken with a camera phone. regarding the xenon flash, there isn't much chance to use it and even if you do use it, it'll look harsh most of the time. yes it's handy to capture something that's impossible without xenon but in my experiences there was only 0.03% chance to use it.

PS: typo on my previous post, last paragraph. should be "portability" instead of "pocketability" because rx100 still not quite small enough to fit into pocket.  sweat.gif
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True. I got many friends keeping their big gun at home, they only bring it out on big festive season, and collecting dust most of the time sweat.gif
Well.. I guess I might convince him to get Nokia 808 first and only consider about "true camera" later, it's also good to save more and aim for better big gun, and tbh.. he doesn't look like the one that willing to bring big guns all the time -.-
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:52 AM

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Nokia had/had been raped by many stubborn ceo, that's the cause if their downfall
They're like: we don't want to be too mainstream, so we will go the dead ended way, and we shall succeed with our sky high reputation!

That's what tarnished the brand,derp.
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post Oct 23 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 23 2012, 10:58 AM)
sadly their CEO have bad management everyone talking about samsung looking forward for samsung. Their reputation now is at the most bottom. Even american today cant even pronounce samsung properly also choose samsung just imagine that.
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Lol now only aware of so many typos from my previous post,i hate typing on phone -.-

I think even IF WP8 turned out being successful, they will still unable to catch back throne of phone industry since samsung also taking wp8 alongside with Android, how to compete lol
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post Oct 23 2012, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 23 2012, 12:20 PM)
i know how that feels even android so bad NOW on jelly bean they improved alot i am typing this on a galaxy note 2 minmum mistake without correction if i lazy to type i can even write. Still cant beat iphone but can say there are very close to iphone
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Android is quite refined now to be honest, and there comes "lime pie?" (the newest version of android to be announced on 29th oct).. they will get much more better :/
my bro and sis got their s3 and I'm kinda jealous, the games with superb graphics and apps that facilitate daily tasks (symbian and even WP platform still lacking far behind imo) kills me badly >.>

I think we might finally be able to take android as great symbian replacement in current state; some might argue that symbian runs smoothly on single core and having good battery life, etc,. but imo...
does it even matter anymore especially note2 has now proven superb multitasking and great battery life can be done on this power hogger OS?

as a Nokia fan, i can either pray for Nokia to adopt android after contract with microsoft ended or I shouldn't really trapped myself with brand of "nokia" anymore (hard earn money need to spend more wisely eh)

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post Oct 23 2012, 06:05 PM

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post Oct 30 2012, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(KennyKB @ Oct 30 2012, 01:29 PM)
16GB non-expandable storage not enough for me. My music already occupy 15GB.

WP8 was launched yesterday. Gsmarena has a review on it. I don't see any cutting edge features there. Some of them should have been in WP7.5 like re-sizable tiles and data monitor. Still no bluetooth file transfer. It is still far behind Android and trying to catch up with ios. One weird feature is Kid's Corner to let kids play with your phone safely. I say, do many users want their mobile phones to double up as toys for their kids? Microsoft is funny.
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It has bluetooth file transfer, pay a visit on blogjack (HK based nokia fan blog), they posted two articles pertaining bluetooth file transfer smile.gif
they basically demonstrated files transfer between android and WP, including contact, website and picture i guess
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post Oct 30 2012, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 30 2012, 04:30 PM)

GSMArena also did mentioned File Transfer is finally available.

But not really clear if there is restriction on specific file format allow for transfer since there is no File Explorer? There seems to have mass-storage mode, but does it allow user to store any file types they want?

And as I've mentioned before:
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_phone_8-review-839p9.php

Au contraire - Windows Phone 8 is only now able to start matching up against iOS, and it's still got a lot of ground to cover to reach Android levels of functionality and customization options. So it seems that the Nokia Lumias, the Samsung Ativs and the HTC WPs will first try and steal market share from iOS, before looking at the Google-powered army (though some might be tempted to give up some functionality for the cool looks).

So, the Lumia 820 and 920, will be good for those who doesn't bother much about flexibility, functionalities and cutomizations of Android. Personally, WP is better than iOS, in terms of OS comparison as it offer deep and nice SNS integration, and now having support bluetooth file transfer, sd-card and mass-storage mode.
If only they offer a true Windows on mobile phone, let user decide to keep it simple or utilize the OS to the fullest, not lock the user down.
If done right, Nokia may have better chance and N8 or 808 PureView users can truly look forward for a Lumia PureView.
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Hmmm this is weird, some review sites say photos (picture) are not able to transfer via bluetooth..
but wouldn't it redundant to make such restriction since they allowed users to transfer music (via xbox or bla bla bla? effing microsoft making things so confuse)._.?

WP seem like a good iOS replacement, but just for those non-apps-zombies i guess,most ios users doesn't care about flexibility or being closed source, what they care are "able to show off their newest latest apps" to the others, so WP couldn't even fill up their teeth's gap lol sweat.gif
I guess for now, WP's target market are those pre-blackberry users/corporates (that can't wait for BB10), diehard nokians (how many of them left we wouldn't know lol), and stalkers (ftw!) lololololol
Apps redefined smartphone industry, so WP is nothing without them regardless it's well refurbished "iOS" yawn.gif
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post Oct 31 2012, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 31 2012, 09:51 AM)
I'm not sure what sort of restrictions are there for these newly added feature, I read in GSMArena, you can transfer "unsupported" file format into the micro-SD when connected as mass-storage mode, but you will not be able to attach those file in emails or even see those files from the OS because it's "unsupported". If we're talking about a computer, how stupid is that? Imagine your Windows PC can only see media files.
But then, not everyone bothers about this, or they can imagine this... some people they need to experience it then only they will realize and complain about it (e.g. when one day there's a urgent request, they need to send specific files when they're outside, but their "smartphone" can't even do such simple task)... Just like bluetooth file transfer, some people said, I don't need it. But having it wont' harm, not having it, it's another story; imagine after taken an amazing photos of a pretty girl (or hot guys for girl), the person ask for the photo to be send to his/her phone and you "smartphone" can't do it. At least this issue, supposedly been solved in WP8, else imagine having to boast about the Lumia PureView technology, but then you can't send the photo via bluetooth... Epic!!!

True, many people will try to argue that some features are not mandatory/ this and that, but they couldn't deny the fact that something useless for them might be useful for others,they're like "ok i'm ur dad, when i say useless, then just no and shut your pomegranate up cuz it's useless". We need some features that are practical and useful when needed, not that we gonna lost piece of meat for using it. But on the other hand, feature like so called wireless charging from Nokia is kind of useless to me or dare I say to majority of buyers, cuz who the heck will plug in the wireless charging stand and on it for 24/7? manyak energy waste weii :s
I wouldn't mind if they take this feature away and keep the phone slightly slimmer or lighter, until they enable true wireless charging that you need not to "bound" your phone on top of the charging pad to charge; at this point, charging via usb cable still more practical to me cuz we can pick it up while cable is attached, but it's stupid if we need now to carry along the charging pad just to play with the phone while it charge ._.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Oct 31 2012, 09:51 AM)
The best homescreen is still Maemo's Panorama Desktop. It's the most flexible and customizable homescreen with FREE placement of icons, widgets, you can even overlap them, set transparancy, etc. There's even very powerful custom widgets you can customize yourself. In short, it's very much like your Windows Desktop.
Too bad Nokia already abandon this.

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Sigh, even though we discussed this many times already, I still couldn't help but feel depress on this.
"What if" Nokia went Maemo full heartedly? they must still being top dog in smatphone industry..
Maemo is piece of combination from art, sceience, future (and whatever you can name it), it's just too.. legendary. Stupid Nokia is stupid, highe management should responsible for this.. bunch of worthless braindead zombies :/

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yellow 808? such variant exist? O.o

 

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