Seems no Video Pro.

Anyone with current release of FP2 have this app?

Did you pump a lot of clarity?

Under Settings --> Profile
Edit/Personalize the profile, you will find those settings for tones, touch screen vibration, etc.

What happen to One Utama Nokia Care/Service Centre?
Taken over by Samseng?

I guess they forget something important, why should people switch from their current OS which they're already comfortable, and MORE IMPORTANTLY, they already invested their $$$ on the apps. Switching platform means loosing almost everything.
What's a good reason to switch?
Is WP good enough? For simplicity, smoothness, no fancy homescreen, customization, there's iOS.
For cuztomization, flexibility, power, choices, etc. there's Android.
Where will WP8 stand? Current WP7.5 stand more like alongside with iOS, it's no competition for Android.
At least Symbian offers customization, flexibility, but the OS features itself lacking far behind.

Even if WP8 really become successful, there's another BIG Question: Why Nokia?
With it's current state, people are loosing their hope, trust, confidence. You go to any malls, you used to see Nokia here, Nokia there, now it's Samseng here and Samseng there.
Samseng triumphs PaiKia (aka Nokia)
Why Samseng is so successful, all thanks to PaiKia, most of their users are from PaiKia, converted to Samseng.
Choosing WP is their biggest mistake.

Can they climb back up now that they're at the very bottom? As a user/customer, of course I do, it's good to see more competition and also Nokia coming back up. But it seems they're getting worst everyday at fast pace.
You go to the mall, you see Samseng store is crowded and full, and Nokia Store, seems always can even hear mosquito sound... ok, that exaggeration, but you can see the big difference, and many people who visit Nokia Store are those still loyal to Nokia brand that aren't really looking for a smartphone or doesn't really know much about smartphone thing. Some may buy the Lumia, but how many of them will "stay"?
The worst thing that could happen is for them to find out the problem and weakness of Lumia (or WP) and then give up. Now they have a bad impression on Lumia (or WP), and this is not a good thing. Just as how people are disappointed and given up Symbian, will they want to "re-try" or give 2nd chance to Symbian again next time? Take the risk? Why should they?

During S2 era, it was OK already.
In you say Symbian replacement, it's already a great replacement for Symbian since quite long ago.

You can honestly consider Samseng S3 or Note2 (if you don't mind the size). Been using SEX Pro for some time, honestly speaking, Sony's version Android a failure and their older devices lacks of RAM and internal storage, was a horrible experience. For Android, make sure you get a decent spec hardware with enough internal storage for apps, micro-SD support and RAM.
Besides in term of OS, Samseng did much better than Sony, in default stock mode, there's many shortcuts in the drop down menu, there's S-Voice, there's many nice and useful feature I wished it was available on the Sony.
Image quality, it may not be as good as 808 PureView, but in terms of usability, it's actually much better, it's faster and more responsive, image quality is decent and very good for mobile phone category.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 23 2012, 02:40 PM

Actually Nokia have such OS... it's called Maemo, which then become MeeGo after they partner with Intel.
If you have used Maemo, it could easily surpass Android. Don't talk about MeeGo, although it's nice, it's like a more slimmed down or simplified version of Maemo with many features missing.
While some may say, it's not necessary, etc. the key point is let user decide and choose, let them customize what they want. But giving a simplified version with features missing means, the thing is no longer available, you can't have it anymore. BUT, if having the feature, one can turn it off in options and customize to their preference.

I'm still having the N900, sometimes when I use it, I still feel it's better than the S3 especially the web browsing experience, nothing can beat that to date. To think that it's only a A8-600Mhz with 256MB physical memory device, yet it's performing exceptionally well and smooth.

What kind of mobile experience?
If Software Eco, Nokia should work hard and push, bring softwares over, etc.
The one main reason Maemo didn't do well is because the lack of apps/games in market (or Nokia Store), although there's tons of apps actually available.
Plus, it was the first tablet smartphone (previous Maemo has no phone functionality), and it doesn't have capacitive touch screen. If Nokia had work on it and bring in more developers, apps/games, come up with more competitive hardware, I'm sure it will be a success.

Using the N900 back, it was the only smartphone with full flash, it's the only smartphone you can surf Facebook in Desktop mode like a real Desktop, you can activate mouse cursor on web browser and do mouse-required operations, multi-tasking is a breeze and so easy and convenient. In short, using the N900 back then it's like having a mini laptop/netbook in hand. With smartphones today, even the great Galaxy Note, it can't give this similar experience because it's still lacking in terms of multi-tasking, web browsing experience, etc.

Haha, the SEX Pro was used in SEX Pro thread and also among my colleagues/friends, we prefer to use "alternate" names, haha. e.g. I've just converted/join Samseng "kia", hey, we got new Samseng "poh", etc.

Yea, too bad Nokia didn't emphasize and put in enough effort to bring in the developers for Maemo/MeeGo platform, it's even worst than Symbian. The potential is there.... just too bad...

As for 808 PureView, there are dedicated image processor for it right?
Just too bad for Nokia they didn't choose to adopt Android, else they can go multi-platform, continue offering Symbians for those who are still on Symbian, and they can also work on Maemo/MeeGo. They key point here is to make their Nokia Store app purchase available ACROSS platforms as long as they stay within Nokia devices (e.g. Samsung store for Android). So, their Symbian users can one day switch to their Android platform while maintaining their purchases (based on the apps available), thus this way, they can also maintain their existing users better. A Nokia user can have a Nokia Android Tablet, a Nokia MeeGo smartphone, but the apps are available through Nokia Store. Of course, this is something Nokia have to work on and the apps to be available, but will be an advantage for Nokia.
If they have chosen multi-platform and adopted Android, high chances are they'll still be No. 1 spot and probably doing well.

Anyway, albeit 808 is doing better than previous Symbian series and the camera performance is much faster, but comparing to S3 or even N9, it's not as fast in terms of capture, probably due to the pixel oversampling processing. With N9, I can keep tapping capture and it will capture and save, with slight delay, while on the S3, you can just keep tapping and there's no delay like it's not doing any processing or saving any image, and that's on Power Saving mode on S3. For quick capture and ease of use, S3 is definitely much more responsive and nice to use. Image quality wise 808 is better but then most people won't pixel peep to see the overall details.

Seems Avaxx already hands on Lumia 820 and 920.

I think Nokia Malaysia might do big even for this 2 phone. After all, the've been quiet for some time and this is like their important point.

Still not sure how is WP8, if still tons of restriction and limitations, I have no idea how it want to compete. For such OS, there is already one that's more famous, iOS. People who want flexibility, customization, power, etc. most likely won't even want to look at it. They need to bring the real Windows back onto smartphone.

If WP8 is restricted and limited like WP7.5, then even they sell RM1K for L920, not sure how many people will buy. Maybe those WP fans/lovers will buy it over other brands, or those don't mind those restrictions and limitations (or willing to give up their current more flexible, more customizable OS phone).

Sad to say, I didn't even use the L900 last time. No different than L800, even L800 also use for a short while only for review purpose. Passed around to those people to try, there more negative comments than good comments, other than smooth and fast, what really is there? If people only care about smoothness and fast, there is iOS and it has tons of apps/games and can be JB easily.

The problem is not Nokia but Microsoft's WP.
Not sure how is WP8, just can hope it's good and not like WP7.5, but there's a lot need to change from WP7.5.
They gotta bring the real Windows back into their smartphone, not another Zune Media Player.

Yup, S2 has it's ups an down, I guess that was sort of like the beginning point, or turning point where it started to popular and S3 being very successful, in fact, it's very good. Many iPhone users actually switch to S3, I know some iPhone users which is very particular and supported Apple products all the while, they're impressed by the smoothness and speed, at the same time discovering what they have been missing out when they're been stuck inside Apple's small little world without those flexibilities, customizations, etc.

I think S3 felt much better build and solid than S2. I recall when I first carry S2, it felt really fragile, but S3 felt much more solid on hands.
And it's really light.

Between Note2 and S3?
I like the S-Pen, but I don't want such big phone, I think max for me will be 5".
Even the S3 felt big, but still OK. Just too bad the S3 can't utilize the S-Pen.

True, not to mention the Market have region control. I don't get the reasoning behind this. For some apps, maybe, but seems some common/basic apps also have region control, which is just plain stupid and they will some "smart" need people to maintain this. I guess they didn't have a default availability is available to all region?

The Market also fail, full of rubbish apps and it appear on top somemore. Very badly organize and very messy. Not sure now, but previous during Lumia 800, it's really badly organized.

For Symbian, seems many apps and games missing for 808 PureView and still not yet available to date. It was available on N8 previously.

Got drop by, but never post only
Since no topic, they're discussing on Android games on N9. Since already have Android, so didn't bother lo,
zachary seems also got Note2, but he's still energetic to try on N9


Hehe, already jump to Android (SEX Pro, Sony Ericsion Xperia Pro) since early of the year... wanted qwerty, but big mistake... too little internal storage for apps, not enough RAM, EPIC fail... Cannot tahan already SEX Pro, no longer sexy and no longer Pro, switch and become a Samseng, a lot better... Samseng more considerate with so many shortcut available through pull down menu, S-Voice, and some other nice-to-have features.
But still find 1GB RAM is not enough... Android is too "smart" decide to load your apps for faster access even though you won't or will not access it wasting your memory and decides to kill your apps while you multi-task, or suddenly your Skype gets closed.

Your also got a Note 2 right? hehe
How's 2GB Ram on Android? Did those apps get closed automatically even with 2GB ram?

That's cool... makes me drool for S3 2GB version now... Current 1GB really not enough, can't really multi-task properly, when you go back to browser, it refreshed and restarted. Well, for one, I prefer browsing Desktop version, but then Maemo was able to handle it well, even with multiple browser window open browsing full desktop sites, and that's only with 256MB physical ram.

For smoothness, it's not a must to be super smooth. For those who use computer, should know that it depends on how you use lo, if you don't install anything and remain stock, little apps, no background service, etc. even sure smooth like butter. If you want to multi-task, the should know that it will affect the performance.
I'm more concern about the ability to multi-task and how well it provide true multi-tasking experience. To date, nothing can beat Maemo and MeeGo yet. Maemo is so convenient, just tap the small button you go to Multi-Task window and you can easily switch between other window.

Oh, did you enjoy the video gallery?

Camera part, the quality is OK, can't really compare with 808; but for most people, the S3 or Note2 Camera is very good already, it's very easy and fast, especially the burst, it let's me capture the moment better (plus, in lowlight, with burst, you can get sharp photos without blur due to shake), and also the HDR mode works well.

For image quality and high MP, still sticking back to 808, but I end up use both to capture, LoL, end up spend more time to capture one thing

Yup, the Wi-Fi is better than all other smartphones I used before so far, able to connect when others cannot detect. But Android still not able to connect to ad-hoc connection....

Btw, did you get the S3??? Saw you post something in S3 thread.


I thought you gotten the S3, saw you post something there.

If you don't mind AP set, suggest you to go for the i9305 (when the price become more reasonable). 1GB Ram isn't really enough if you want to really multi-task.

The audio part, GSMArena gives excellent review.

This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 30 2012, 10:32 AM

If you're getting Android or S3, try to go for the 2GB ram version. I saw review they comparing S3 US (2GB) and One X, the reviewer practically have the apps open for like 1 week and it seems the app doesn't restart or being killed.
In Android, switching to multi-tasking is not so convenient, you need to press and hold the menu button (well, particularly for Samseng as other brand have different button layout already). Still, it cannot beat Maemo/MeeGo.

Android got many useful APPS which is widely use nowadays and there're many choices of browsers with Full Flash support. Now it only lacks some ability like activating mouse cursor for some special operation. Was able to do that with Maemo and somehow Maemo browser render web page better, more PC like and feel.

Symbian is falling way far behind in this, but for simple mobile web browsing there's not much to complain about.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 30 2012, 11:52 AM

Hornbills

Only AP set, i9305 LTE version. But just available I think last week and the price is very expensive at the moment.

If you want fast update, I think can go for the Nexus 4. But it lacks micro-SD support. If that's not a problem for you, then it's the best choice now? It comes with 2GB Ram.

iOS and WP7 doesn't belong to smartphone category for me, so I won't even want to consider or look at them. How can a mobile computer phone missing mobile computer function in the first place, how does it quality as a mobile computer.
Just like a sports performance car, if it's big like MPV, no power, how can you STILL call it a performance sports car.

Jolla... would have to wait and see.

As of current, only Android "still" able to offer a proper smartphone experience and with all the apps and games.
Windows Mobile has flopped/downgraded into "mediaphone" category, no idea about Windows Phone 8.
Symbian not going anywhere since quite long ago.

I can't imagine if desktop computers also become restricted and lock down one day like Windows Phone. It's just plain dumb.

It can never catch up or compete with Android is it never offer proper smartphone features, as in a proper mobile computer. If it remain restriction, locked on, rely on Zune, limited access to files/format, etc. It'll just remain as another media player category OS. It can never fullfill the needs of people who're used to and looking for a mobile computer phone.

I just can't imagine if our Desktop PC will become like this one day.


Actually this kind of feature can be easily implemented especially on FLEXIBLE and OPEN OS. It's just that they come up with this idea first; just like Driving Mode, they can provide more modes like Kids Mode, etc.
The key point here is, with flexible and open OS, it can be designed to let the user customize their very OWN mode, just like Symbian profiles or Accounts in Windows, so we can restrict what specific account can do (e.g. ability to purchase apps in App Store).

App icons all over the place is not much of a big deal... my daugther actually go and uninstall my apps on iPod Touch, gone are not just the apps but also the game saves. Another problem is, they like to press physical button, so they will press the HOME button, or Windows Button, thus jumps out of the game.

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Added on October 30, 2012, 5:20 pmGSMArena also did mentioned File Transfer is finally available.

But not really clear if there is restriction on specific file format allow for transfer since there is no File Explorer? There seems to have mass-storage mode, but does it allow user to store any file types they want?

And as I've mentioned before:
http://www.gsmarena.com/windows_phone_8-review-839p9.php

Au contraire - Windows Phone 8 is only now able to start matching up against iOS, and it's still got a lot of ground to cover to reach Android levels of functionality and customization options. So it seems that the Nokia Lumias, the Samsung Ativs and the HTC WPs will first try and steal market share from iOS, before looking at the Google-powered army (though some might be tempted to give up some functionality for the cool looks).

So, the Lumia 820 and 920, will be good for those who doesn't bother much about flexibility, functionalities and cutomizations of Android. Personally, WP is better than iOS, in terms of OS comparison as it offer deep and nice SNS integration, and now having support bluetooth file transfer, sd-card and mass-storage mode.
If only they offer a true Windows on mobile phone, let user decide to keep it simple or utilize the OS to the fullest, not lock the user down.
If done right, Nokia may have better chance and N8 or 808 PureView users can truly look forward for a Lumia PureView.




This post has been edited by Andy214: Oct 30 2012, 05:20 PM

Not all Symbian users can accept WP restrictions and limitations, if you have been using something more flexible and open, going into a more restricted and limited OS feels plain dumb and stupid, going backwards. Even many Windows Mobile users are disappointed and sticking back to Android.

WP8 now supporting micro-SD, bluetooth file transfer, mass-storage, seems moving forward but still BEHIND their own predecessor, Windows Mobile, in terms of OS functionality/feature and flexibility. I'm not sure what sort of restrictions are there for these newly added feature, I read in GSMArena, you can transfer "unsupported" file format into the micro-SD when connected as mass-storage mode, but you will not be able to attach those file in emails or even see those files from the OS because it's "unsupported". If we're talking about a computer, how stupid is that? Imagine your Windows PC can only see media files.
But then, not everyone bothers about this, or they can imagine this... some people they need to experience it then only they will realize and complain about it (e.g. when one day there's a urgent request, they need to send specific files when they're outside, but their "smartphone" can't even do such simple task)... Just like bluetooth file transfer, some people said, I don't need it. But having it wont' harm, not having it, it's another story; imagine after taken an amazing photos of a pretty girl (or hot guys for girl), the person ask for the photo to be send to his/her phone and you "smartphone" can't do it. At least this issue, supposedly been solved in WP8, else imagine having to boast about the Lumia PureView technology, but then you can't send the photo via bluetooth... Epic!!!

The best joke I see about WP8 is the video where the presenter said WP8 is personalized and unique unlike Android and hard to differentiate or recognize because they're all the same??? WP8 is all tiles, nothing much to personalized, no customization, no wallpaper... Android, you have homescreen with "live" widgets, wallpaper, customizations. It's more unique and personalized, it can also simulate WP8 live tiles via widgets (except not scrollable and not able to fill the entire homescreen). Even Symbian is more personalized and much much more customizable than WP8.
The best homescreen is still Maemo's Panorama Desktop. It's the most flexible and customizable homescreen with FREE placement of icons, widgets, you can even overlap them, set transparancy, etc. There's even very powerful custom widgets you can customize yourself. In short, it's very much like your Windows Desktop.
Too bad Nokia already abandon this.


No warranty coverage for water damage.

Did you try to turn on your phone many times? Try to wipe clean your phone, dry it up, and soaked it inside uncooked rice for few days or longer? Then try your luck...

http://www.wikihow.com/Save-a-Wet-Cell-Phone

True true, very sad. I still use my N900 once in a while, good for TV Out and the browser and browsing experience is still better than the Android phones, somehow it renders more like a PC. It's just lacking the processing power and ram.

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Added on November 2, 2012, 11:17 amHaha, this is like a general rule or practice. Just like computer, got virus? go spyware? Don't know how to fix (or lazy)? FORMAT.


This post has been edited by Andy214: Nov 2 2012, 11:17 AM