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post Aug 16 2012, 03:39 PM, updated 10y ago

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Just got this news from Jaben Network, Beyerdynamic had launched their latest XP series Earphone.
Pretty unexpected on this news, seem they are targeting more affordable market as well.
The pricing of RM199 is pretty crazy, especially they have 3 different sounding models in same price.
Packed with features such as tangle-free, angle fit, L-shape jack which pretty much gathered all the great design in the market, and hit hard!

*Credited from Jaben Malaysia

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Hi Guys,

Beyerdynamic had launched the latest XP earphone series which consist of XP1, XP2, XP3.
How are they actually?
Pretty amazing on the sound on the first impression, the 3 models focus on:

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XP1 the beast Bass focus earphone which suitable for bass head and love punchy tight bass.
XP2 Bass reduced compare with the XP1, good balance between treble and low frequency with great handle.
XP3 the most neutral and detail out of 3, suitable for all kind of musics.

Technical Specification:
Models : Xp1, Xp2, Xp3
Frequency range : 20 – 22000Hz
Impedance : 16 Ohm
Sensitivity : 98dB
Cable length : 1.4m
Connector : 3.5mm jack plug

Feature:
-Versatile Sound option, pick the best sounding out of three
-Superb sound quality guaranteed support by countless years of experience in the industry.
-Perfect angle fit, suitable for outdoor and sport usage, creates a weightless and solid feeling
- Passive Noise isolation feature cancelled out 97% outer sound and ambience
-Smallest Flat tangle-free cable for ultra convenient portability

Beyerdynamic XP series loaded with all the top end features in the market. It has small tangle-free cable available for convenient and light usage. L-shape 3.5mm jack provides a more sturdy connection between the 3.5mm jack and headphone output from phone, it prevents cable twisting due to connection angle.
Angle shape design for more firm fit and comfortable in overall usage. It induced better isolation for outer ambience sound and deeper insertion for better sound effect.

How about the price of the 3 models?
They are cheap & cheerful, reasonable and 3 of them are same price.


Beyerdynamic XP series Q&A


Why they are not showing in Beyer Website and only available in Jaben?
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BEYERDYNAMIC XP SERIES.
beyerdynamic has been launching three new in-ear headphones under the XP series label exclusively for the India/Asia/Pacific region.

The XP series was initiated by the JABEN chain, a renowned headphones specialist and trusted partner, with shops in South East Asia, China and Australia. Jaben also runs an online-store at jaben.net.

3 models will be offered: XP1, XP2 and XP3, all sharing the same design, but featuring different sound images. The sound quality and design of the products were developed in cooperation between beyerdynamic and JABEN. All three are sold at USD 58 through jaben.net.

The XP in-ears are mainly tailored to meet the needs of the Asian markets. Our research has shown that the tastes of Asian consumers are very specific, and quite different from those of our European and American customers, when it comes to sound, design and packaging. For these specific reasons, we decided to introduce these three in-ears exclusively in Asia.

So should you ever run into a review, post or comment about the XP series, please be aware that these are not copycats or anything illegal, but meant exclusively for the Asian markets. Our partner Jaben assured us to deliver only to Asian customer, but if any XP in-ears show up in your market, or in case you receive warranty claims from customers, please let us know immediately.

Source : http://asia-pacific-india.beyerdynamic.com.../xp-series.html


Where to buy in Malaysia?

Jaben Audio Malaysia - KL SS15 Subang Jaya Outlet
Jaben Audio Malaysia - PG Strait Quey Shopping Mall
Jaben Audio Malaysia - PG Gurney Paragon Shopping Mall
Jaben Audio Malaysia - Sarawak Kuching, ONE Jaya Shopping Mall, Sarawak Kuching
AmplifiedHead - JayaOne PJ (Formerly know as WowLoud)
MacCity Apple Premium reseller - One Utama
MacCity Apple Premium reseller - Aeon Cheras Selatan
MacCity Apple Premium reseller - Aeon Melaka
Pantera Apple Authorize reseller - Viva Home Cheras
MacStudio Apple Premium reseller - Plaza Lowyat
MacStudio Apple Premium reseller - BB Park
MacStudio Apple Premium reseller - Bangsar Shopping Mall
MacStudio Apple Premium reseller - Paradigm Mall
I-Store Apple Premium reseller - Publika
I-Store Apple Premium reseller - Digital Mall Section 14
My Bytes Apple Authorize reseller - Tropicana City Mall
HotSpot - Plaza Lowyat
HotSpot - Bangsa Shopping mall
MyFutureWorld Apple Authorize Reseller - Parkson@KL Festival City Mall
MyFutureWorld Apple Authorize Reseller - Parkson@Mahkota Parade (Melaka)
MyFutureWorld Apple Authorize Reseller - Wangsa Walk Mall.
MyFutureWorld Apple Authorize Reseller - Sunway Giza Mall
High Tech Multimedia - Danga City Mall, JB
Music Master Studio - 16, SS2/10, PJ
Lazada.com.my - Online Store
Superbuy.com.my - Online Store


Do you need burn in?
*Yes, according to user Beyerdynamic Xp series starting to shine in around 70+ hours, fully perform in 150+ hours.

What can you tune about the sound?
*I did have a play with the double flange and stock single flange tips, the sound is pretty different between these two.
Double flange provides better staging and more extension on treble & bass spectrum.
Single flange offers better speed and impact, everything moved forward with more aggressive sound enhanced.

Why i don't any bass respond in the earphone? i thought they are strong?
*Most probably the fitting issue, as angel fit requires better fitting due to their natural solid in inner ear canal, twist a little bit around your ear, with noise isolated seal you can get great bass respond.

Do 3 of them just different on bass quantity?
*No they are not, base on my personal experience and customer feedback, 3 of them presented different signature to your taste, try them if you are able to.

Cable microphonic sound?
*The "bup" sound when the cable touched your body. Try to slide up the cable slider to a comfortable zone, it will reduce a lot.



Review Section


InEarMatters Beyer XP review
inearspace.co.uk beyerdynamic XP review
http://springheadphone.blogspot.com/2012/0...series-xp3.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/623923/review-bey...e-budget-market
http://www.wheninmanila.com/beyerdynamic-x...d-tough-design/
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry54474102
http://meganusa.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/b...-series-review/
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2472360/+620
http://soundperfection.blog.com/review-bey...amic-xp-series/
Earmass


Swimsonny Unboxing Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTWxflyLM70...player_embedded



*Proud User of Beyerdynamic XP Series

XP1
-Walabies
-Noobandroid
-fe3doe
-SSlim
-cristiano7mu
-beh0211
-cristiano7mu
-skycrawler
-Azyune
-Secondrate
-peterG

XP2
-Walabies
-SSlim
-c@w^2
-digitalove_70s
-archinkent
-mareno77
-shiki_arc
-Hazmatyre
-JohnAb

XP3
-Windboy
-Wildwestgoh
-Walabies
-Topet
-Discretesound
-Zandara
-Bzz
-SSlim
-Ashburn98
-kennethkee93
-Shimon
-siahkh
-Gamesky
-Eugene88
-ego draconis
-Noobandroid
-Nicotine
-Neozlee
-Ziafang
-Khangsheng1
-Eir
-SomeoneElse
-KingGeo81
-Lesslie
-Maynotbe11

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post Aug 16 2012, 03:46 PM

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post Aug 16 2012, 03:52 PM

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has both features i like, flat cable and the cube F1Pro type IEM design which i adore a lot
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post Aug 16 2012, 04:00 PM

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beyer earphone seem from the past not always a main focus point in their product list, however this time they are paying more attention in their IEM range.
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post Aug 16 2012, 04:05 PM

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Hmmm... interesting...
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post Aug 16 2012, 05:50 PM

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waiting for more impression, it should be amazing in term of price ratio.
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post Aug 16 2012, 06:25 PM

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Can't wait to have my first try...

Great recommandation..xdd
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post Aug 16 2012, 08:01 PM

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Woot Woot!! can I try it?
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post Aug 16 2012, 08:07 PM

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interested man, waiting for your good review
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post Aug 16 2012, 09:30 PM

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I re-verify the news released by windboy, yes it is true that Beyerdynamic going to release this earphone in amass soon. We also provide free testing for three XP series.
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post Aug 16 2012, 11:07 PM

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Beyer's previous attempt at IEMs failed miserably..

hopefully these new wave of models will fare better....

They look very.. OEM-ish.. IMHO.. but this is strictly speculation..
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post Aug 17 2012, 11:52 AM

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not too sure about that though, seem they want to redesign a new product with decent features inside.
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post Aug 17 2012, 10:53 PM

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Has annyone tried this before? How is the XP2 compare to FAD Adagio III?
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post Aug 18 2012, 02:40 AM

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errr..when is the question..
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post Aug 18 2012, 03:03 AM

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i have a thing for flat cables brows.gif

but more interested on how it sounds hmm.gif
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post Aug 18 2012, 03:37 PM

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just got a review up and running thanks to a friend.
Ordered a unit from Jaben =)
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QUOTE(Memories_Fallen @ Aug 17 2012, 10:53 PM)
Has annyone tried this before? How is the XP2 compare to FAD Adagio III?
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Can I say comparable? But FAD is a higher tier IEM while in every FAD there is 'something' special. I couldn't say it in words, unmentionable.

QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 18 2012, 03:03 AM)
i have a thing for flat cables brows.gif

but more interested on how it sounds hmm.gif
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I found spring biscuit wrote some good review on his blog, do give it a read.
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I personally prefer the XP3. thumbup.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 04:50 PM

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XP3 has more solid and warmish of sound presentation.

Latest unboxing video uploaded in first post!.
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post Aug 20 2012, 05:49 PM

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value for money! I tried Beyer XP1,2,3 and found that all of them sound better than Jays!! on the price of A-Jays 1, the sounding can beat A-Jays 3 and 4....! That's amazing!
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QUOTE(GLEwon @ Aug 20 2012, 05:49 PM)
value for money! I tried Beyer XP1,2,3 and found that all of them sound better than Jays!! on the price of A-Jays 1, the sounding can beat A-Jays 3 and 4....! That's amazing!
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That's what an audiophile brand, Beyerdynamic should sounds like... High end sounding... thumbup.gif
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thats really tempting! beyer + flat cable + cheap = mouthwatering
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post Aug 20 2012, 06:57 PM

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How does these compare to BA driver IEM? eg tdk ba 200 tongue.gif
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post Aug 20 2012, 07:01 PM

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pretty different sound i would say, as Dynamic provides better impact, texture and extension while BA offers Detail and separation.

But... it is beyer we are talking about =P
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Aug 20 2012, 06:57 PM)
How does these compare to BA driver IEM? eg tdk ba 200 tongue.gif
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BA and dynamic in general will sounds diff smile.gif
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QUOTE(windboy @ Aug 20 2012, 05:01 PM)
pretty different sound i would say, as Dynamic provides better impact, texture and extension while BA offers Detail and separation.

But... it is beyer we are talking about =P
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Sound cool, me have Dynamics driver earphone from my Sony Ericsson x10 handfree, apple earbud n beats tours.
Impact from bass, for texture n extension not
identify.
Compare to Sony EX1000 Monitor how?

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I just hope Beyer attacks the high end universal IEM market to compete head-2-head with AKG, Senn, Westone, etc. Let Dynamic Driver shine!

Btw, really wonder how would "Tesla" IEM sound like. Haha. Beyer let's make my dream come true!

On topic: It's good. I can't say it's definitely better than something pricier like Jays. But it's just good for customers wanting something special and control the budget below Rm200. Hey, RM199 is still Rm1 below Rm200! Haha.
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yeap the pricing is pretty crazy.
I guess they are targeting entry market, and then moving up to the top.
Maybe it is a new production line for the brand.

It is not an easy task to compete with EX1000, as the price is such a big different.

but im confidently to admit this earphone can compete earphone in RM300 - RM700 range.
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Looks like Beyerdynamic did it right on IEM this time. rclxms.gif

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already got in Jaben Penang?
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post Aug 22 2012, 10:03 AM

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Auditioned the XP1, XP2 (**20+ hours burning) and XP3 (no burning).
** I think somewhere around there...

XP1 is totally out.. LOL I'm not sure anyone here like the Bass but, if you like Beats then it's an OK, the Bass is just... overwhelm, so much that it covers much of the mid and high.
XP2 is balance, but the Bass IMO still high (perhaps more burning needed?), according to Sim (the shop owner), 3 of the units focus on Bass so I guess that's pretty much it.
XP3 is well, better, detail, clarity is in there, has potential and shall do another audition coming Saturday if not Sunday, definitely gonna choose between BeyerDynamic XP3 vs VSonic GR02 (Bass enhance edition).

For most audiophile, XP3 is top choice, XP2 is for most pop song, XP1... umm... I don't know, Beats lover perhaps? haha~

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whoever is looking for more in depth review on all XP mode.

Look at http://www.head-fi.org/t/623923/review-bey...e-budget-market
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QUOTE(Topet @ Aug 21 2012, 10:17 PM)
already got in Jaben Penang?
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Yes Topet...
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QUOTE(walabies @ Aug 22 2012, 11:09 PM)
Yes Topet...
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thanks..will be visiting penang next week...

maybe buy it there
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JVC-HA-FX101 vs Beyer XP1......i wonder which is a better bass monster? hmm.gif
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Oh Jonspark, that I don't know either...
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 23 2012, 01:08 AM)
JVC-HA-FX101 vs Beyer XP1......i wonder which is a better bass monster? hmm.gif
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Well I have the FX101 and I do know that it gives me headache with its thumping bass that hit straight to your heart.
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I think no headphone, earphone able to challenge Monster beats bass. They are just 80% about bass in the songs.
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post Aug 23 2012, 11:42 PM

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Read the review from swimsonny, it basically covers all the major signature in xp series
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I think it should be able to cover everybody's preference of music. Clever Beyerdynamic.
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Yup good idea to have 3 diff type of sounding iem in one series smile.gif
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Do you guys pair any of these iems with amps or u just plug and play?
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Awesome earphone!! Awesome Beyerdynamic!!
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Aug 25 2012, 11:17 AM)
Do you guys pair any of these iems with amps or u just plug and play?
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Plug and play is fine, as this is not a power hunger or low sensitivity earphone.
But you can pair with a portable amp to make it sounds even better.
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What portable amp do you recommend? I might use this on my sgs2 when I do my workouts.
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shit i have been poisoned alrd. Find one day must go Jaben Penang to try it out
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Aug 25 2012, 05:20 PM)
What portable amp do you recommend? I might use this on my sgs2 when I do my workouts.
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If you like portable and workouts, go for Govibe Mini box amplifier, it has light weight and durable aluminium design.
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I personally like XP2.
sounds great! looks cool! flat cable!
and most important, it is Beyerdynamic!!

Beyer finally come out with something great on earphone~
I guess this will be the hottest entry level earphone for the following year.
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demmm....waiting patiently...all sold out...can't wait...
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heard that currently jaben is heavily out of stock, went there yesterday and that is what they told me, even there are a few customers purposely looking for that.
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QUOTE(windboy @ Aug 26 2012, 12:28 PM)
heard that currently jaben is heavily out of stock, went there yesterday and that is what they told me, even there are a few customers purposely looking for that.
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Good things always out of stock biggrin.gif
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hi thre, wonder if jaben pg outlet hv stock on these 3 iem?? if hv stock would like to grab 1 of the series =)
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Why dynamic driver can cost start rm2+- to 2K +-?
The material, design ...
What the different


Added on August 26, 2012, 6:11 pmthis beyer compare to other audiophile brand akg,at, senn how?
Sony?
Same price range


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Anyone from garage sales selling it?
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Just got my beyerdynamic xp1 from jaben penang.. Very good iem for headbass.. Left my a-jays 3 & monster n-ergy aside.. Lol.
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Beyerdynamic XP series are all bass oriented, no doubt, even after 30+ hours of burning of the XP3 still has some bass on it, it's due to the cable design, huge-flat~~ and the microphonic is pretty annoying if you move around much.
Compare XP3 to VSonic GR02 Bass edition, GR02 has much punch to the bass and detail (with the right ear-bud), while XP3 is much neutral across all bands (clarity/detail focus) but still has the muddy bass feels to it (cable design).
Overall Beyerdynamic has make it right (this time I heard?), and the shop (SCLG) here already has few pre-order for XP2 and XP3.

Personally , I might choose the GR02 over XP3 due to the microphonic issue, it's really big thing for me as I sit near my desk fan, it can get really annoying on a hot day. GR02 has smaller, softer cable that reduce the microphonic, for the rest, XP3 is a good choice, looks cool as well if you walk in the street, "hey! it's a BAAEEEYEEERRR~~"
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 27 2012, 01:16 PM)
Beyerdynamic XP series are all bass oriented, no doubt, even after 30+ hours of burning of the XP3 still has some bass on it, it's due to the cable design, huge-flat~~ and the microphonic is pretty annoying if you move around much.
Compare XP3 to VSonic GR02 Bass edition, GR02 has much punch to the bass and detail (with the right ear-bud), while XP3 is much neutral across all bands (clarity/detail focus) but still has the muddy bass feels to it (cable design).
Overall Beyerdynamic has make it right (this time I heard?), and the shop (SCLG) here already has few pre-order for XP2 and XP3.

Personally , I might choose the GR02 over XP3 due to the microphonic issue, it's really big thing for me as I sit near my desk fan, it can get really annoying on a hot day. GR02 has smaller, softer cable that reduce the microphonic, for the rest, XP3 is a good choice, looks cool as well if you walk in the street, "hey! it's a BAAEEEYEEERRR~~"
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The microphonic effect might due to the flat cable, however try to use it with the cable slider near to your bottom part of your face, it will reduce a lot.
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The flat cable could be a plus, could be a minus, it is cool naturally, and it is anti tangle. Meaning no matter how you put it, it can't be tangled. It is also more durable.
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Awesome earphone! Thanks for the Good review! I have been waiting for XP2 for quite some time....anyone waiting for Beyer XP also?
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count me in...... waiting for XP3 to arrive...
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RM199 is not even considered expensive, I've seen people spend over 10k for custom made ones smile.gif
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RM199 is not even considered expensive, I've seen people spend over 10k for custom made ones smile.gif
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I don't know of any 10K CIEMs.

The most expensive CIEM would be the UM's platform pure or FitEars' stuff. but they're closer to 6K than 10K

Final Audio has universals that go up to 10k, yes....
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Quite tempted to try xp3. anyone sellling at garage sale?
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it is pretty new to the market, i don't think anyone is selling as 2nd hand, as it is too good to be sold off =D.

small batch had came into jaben, seem pretty limited, whoever is going to get one, hurry up!!
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high poison area la here~
somemore windboy bro spread the posion everywhere~
controling myself now @@
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Aug 29 2012, 02:34 PM)
high poison area la here~
somemore windboy bro spread the posion everywhere~
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Haha, good item must share share ma, sharing is caring.
Besides, it is Beyerdynamic !

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yerr~ today still havent come o my xp1, y so late.. sadding
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o my, maybe they are busy sorting out the stock, good thing worth to wait =D.

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Sorry to keep all the people waiting... Everyone has been waiting for it, even me. smile.gif I think it will arrive within this week.
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XP1 has arrived thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
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Sorry Windboy, I just auditioned the XP3 but not an owner, apology if I might have confused anyone, but I may (just may) pick up XP3 one day if I have some budget, it's a cool earphone but not suited my taste currently.

Note: Need more audition to poison myself to get it. tongue.gif *Looks cool*
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xp1 really shows the bass power of metal songs / satanic songs
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Aug 30 2012, 08:16 PM)
Sorry Windboy, I just auditioned the XP3 but not an owner, apology if I might have confused anyone, but I may (just may) pick up XP3 one day if I have some budget, it's a cool earphone but not suited my taste currently.

Note: Need more audition to poison myself to get it. tongue.gif *Looks cool*
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Sure bro, no problem for that =D

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xp3 is gooding...

that's all i can say...

tenkiu walabies..
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 30 2012, 08:22 PM)
xp1 really shows the bass power of metal songs / satanic songs
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so i can hear clearer cookie monster growl from the devil? hmm.gif

cool biggrin.gif
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According to Beyerdynamic, this model only available in Asia!!! We get all the goodies!
WOOTZ, Luckily it is not available only is US.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/623923/review-bey...15#post_8657098
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maybe in the US they got or getting something better leh
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i think they are not targeting the XP range in US market, as USD60 and Rm199 are pretty different price concept in different region.
I believe they wan to price Beyer in more premium price range in US while XP series RM199 in asia region stand in a reasonable price point compare with RM10 earphone.
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Bad news for all... our 50 biji Beyer XP finish again tongue.gif In two days.

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True Proud Owner of XP3 (LMAO).
The story goes like this, I reached SCLG, and the boss straight tell me, GR02 all sold out, I was very disappointed, and he tell me to audition again; the XP3 vs the GR02, so I pick it up and have it another go, to my surprise, it beats GR02 hands down, burn-in 70+ hours result, you won't believe how different it is compare to 0 hour.
All the bands comes out, clear, treble, mids, bass, everything sounds so clear after 70+ near 80 hours. The vocal is now much forward, you can clearly hear almost every detail (can't compare to sub RM500+ one) and the muddy bass is reduced to almost Nil, according to him, best sounding will be after 150+ hours burn-in.
So for whoever wants the best out of this Beyer, Patient, you must be very patient, the TRUE quality only comes out after 80+ hours, 150+ hours recommended but 70+ already gave me the shock, "Is this what Beyer want us to hear???"
So I took out my wallet and now looking for burn-in music (or whatever noise) to let it run the whole night, of course with intermittent pause.

Can't wait to reach that 70+ hours burn-in result.... yeah... Beyer~~

Update: Faster burn in using JLABS Burn In Player, already can see some result such as reduce muddy bass and bands all come out but will need more time to get more details out from this unit.
FYI I just played for 7 hours+.
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This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Sep 2 2012, 06:23 AM
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Can I pre order it walabies? Maybe with a Govibe mini box amp tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 1 2012, 09:33 PM)
True Proud Owner of XP3 (LMAO).
The story goes like this, I reached SCLG, and the boss straight tell me, GR02 all sold out, I was very disappointed, and he tell me to audition again; the XP3 vs the GR02, so I pick it up and have it another go, to my surprise, it beats GR02 hands down, burn-in 70+ hours result, you won't believe how different it is compare to 0 hour.
All the bands comes out, clear, treble, mids, bass, everything sounds so clear after 70+ near 80 hours. The vocal is now much forward, you can clearly hear almost every detail (can't compare to sub RM500+ one) and the muddy bass is reduced to almost Nil, according to him, best sounding will be after 150+ hours burn-in.
So for whoever wants the best out of this Beyer, Patient, you must be very patient, the TRUE quality only comes out after 80+ hours, 150+ hours recommended but 70+ already gave me the shock, "Is this what Beyer want us to hear???"
So I took out my wallet and now looking for burn-in music (or whatever noise) to let it run the whole night, of course with intermittent pause.

Can't wait to reach that 70+ hours burn-in result.... yeah... Beyer~~

Update: Faster burn in using JLABS Burn In Player, already can see some result such as reduce muddy bass and bands all come out but will need more time to get more details out from this unit.
FYI I just played for 7 hours+.
DAC/AMP: Hippo CriCri+
Software: Google Chrome to open the webpage wink.gif
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Haha, that's great!

Now my using time is about 50Hours, didnt go for intensive burn in for that, as open box unit sounded pretty well.
Will add this as a tips for new users in the first page, thanks a lot for your contribution =).

*Officially added you inside the user list.


Added on September 2, 2012, 8:15 pmadded Q & A Section in the first post

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Oh and to add to the burn-in, now I'm using movie soundtrack (by John Williams) *ahem* *ahem* from friend, he recommend me to use this as burn-in as it'll enrich some of the part that the JLABS burn-in tool won't do, I'll go straight with the soundtrack for couple more days (maybe just this week) before I start putting my own anime soundtrack (vocal, rock, pop, metal) to further tune-in.

At my current stage, after 7+ hours of JLABS, 9+ hours of movie soundtrack, the bands sounds smooth now, more mids compare to 7+ hours JLABS, of course I can't compare to the 80+ hours which is so great I want to exchange his with mine (very tempted).
Sound stage wise, still can't compare to my trusted oldie AT-CK300M, yes it was the one that slowly poison me into this world, old yet sound still great (burn until wire also stiff -.-;;)

Will burn-in again the whole day, probably rest 10+ minutes after 1 round (1 hour 50 minutes each round) try not to overheat the diaphragm .

p/s: Was suggested NOT to use JLABS burn-in tool after 20+ hours burn-in as it'll spoil the diaphragm like there's no tomorrow. True? I'm not sure, cause I'm using the movie soundtrack now as highly recommended, soundtrack is also good to enrich the bass, mid, and also detail of the instruments.
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So if like the sound of GR02, should I go for XP3 or XP2?
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 3 2012, 01:48 PM)
So if like the sound of GR02, should I go for XP3 or XP2?
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GR02, can't compare with XP3 or XP2, they're on different signature, the GR02 is slightly on the high side, and the mid isn't as forward as XP3, probably XP2 is the choice but you need to audition them to find out, and you need to find XP2 with at least 50+ hours burn-in to compare wink.gif
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If you like GR02, i might recommend XP3.

The different between this two, bass of XP3 is definite stronger then GR02, while GR02 provides more balance sound.

In term of dynamic, fun and forward sound, i will recommend in XP3 as well.

Using the double flange in XP3 can provide more open sound as well.
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tough choice there, coz I like balance and forward sound. Bass also need to be there but not overwhelming
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 3 2012, 10:58 PM)
tough choice there, coz I like balance and forward sound. Bass also need to be there but not overwhelming
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XP2 then smile.gif
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XP3 bass is already quite a lot IMO, perhaps I was gotten used to AT-CK300M (almost neutral with solid deep bass only).
Either way, according to one of the Head-Fi review, all of the series has the same amount of bass, the only different is where the bass reside, XP1 has lots of mid-bass so the mid part can be a bit muddy IMO (need to audition this), XP2 and XP3 different is... erm, almost unnoticeable? Really need to audition all when they're above 70+ hours.
I only have XP3 myself so I can only say, it's great, with more burn-in, it could match my oldie AT-CK300M with just more bass.

For bass head, XP1 all the way, A-Jays? XP1 could replace it at better price point.

As for the double flange, my part it might looks weird as it's hanging mid-air at my ear, it only has 1 size for the double flange. I used one of my Galaxy Note stock ear tips and it fit exactly where I like them. Ear tips also play important parts in the sound, choose wisely.

Comply is also good if you want reduce the bass and it can gives much forward mid and high.

Overall, this baby needs real burn in to reach its true colour, you can't judge it out of the box (0 hour).
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QUOTE(Boomeraangkid @ Sep 2 2012, 07:10 PM)
Can I pre order it walabies? Maybe with a Govibe mini box amp tongue.gif
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Definitely you can preorder. Which model?

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 3 2012, 08:54 AM)
Oh and to add to the burn-in, now I'm using movie soundtrack (by John Williams) *ahem* *ahem* from friend, he recommend me to use this as burn-in as it'll enrich some of the part that the JLABS burn-in tool won't do, I'll go straight with the soundtrack for couple more days (maybe just this week) before I start putting my own anime soundtrack (vocal, rock, pop, metal) to further tune-in.

At my current stage, after 7+ hours of JLABS, 9+ hours of movie soundtrack, the bands sounds smooth now, more mids compare to 7+ hours JLABS, of course I can't compare to the 80+ hours which is so great I want to exchange his with mine (very tempted).
Sound stage wise, still can't compare to my trusted oldie AT-CK300M, yes it was the one that slowly poison me into this world, old yet sound still great (burn until wire also stiff -.-;;)

Will burn-in again the whole day, probably rest 10+ minutes after 1 round (1 hour 50 minutes each round) try not to overheat the diaphragm .

p/s: Was suggested NOT to use JLABS burn-in tool after 20+ hours burn-in as it'll spoil the diaphragm like there's no tomorrow. True? I'm not sure, cause I'm using the movie soundtrack now as highly recommended, soundtrack is also good to enrich the bass, mid, and also detail of the instruments.
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Never heard of this issue. Just dont slam it with loud volume and let it rest for some time later is enough.

QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 3 2012, 10:58 PM)
tough choice there, coz I like balance and forward sound. Bass also need to be there but not overwhelming
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XP3 I guess, XP2 if you like more ohmp... icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 3 2012, 10:58 PM)
tough choice there, coz I like balance and forward sound. Bass also need to be there but not overwhelming
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Use the single flange, it provides more forward/aggressive sound.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 1 2012, 09:33 PM)
True Proud Owner of XP3 (LMAO).
The story goes like this, I reached SCLG, and the boss straight tell me, GR02 all sold out, I was very disappointed, and he tell me to audition again; the XP3 vs the GR02, so I pick it up and have it another go, to my surprise, it beats GR02 hands down, burn-in 70+ hours result, you won't believe how different it is compare to 0 hour.
All the bands comes out, clear, treble, mids, bass, everything sounds so clear after 70+ near 80 hours. The vocal is now much forward, you can clearly hear almost every detail (can't compare to sub RM500+ one) and the muddy bass is reduced to almost Nil, according to him, best sounding will be after 150+ hours burn-in.
So for whoever wants the best out of this Beyer, Patient, you must be very patient, the TRUE quality only comes out after 80+ hours, 150+ hours recommended but 70+ already gave me the shock, "Is this what Beyer want us to hear???"
So I took out my wallet and now looking for burn-in music (or whatever noise) to let it run the whole night, of course with intermittent pause.

Can't wait to reach that 70+ hours burn-in result.... yeah... Beyer~~

Update: Faster burn in using JLABS Burn In Player, already can see some result such as reduce muddy bass and bands all come out but will need more time to get more details out from this unit.
FYI I just played for 7 hours+.
DAC/AMP: Hippo CriCri+
Software: Google Chrome to open the webpage wink.gif
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Bad News Test unit oso been Taken, Kuching - XP3 stock Zero xp


Added on September 6, 2012, 12:26 amTry Foam + Gobive MiniBoxes , you will supprise

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QUOTE(sslim3883 @ Sep 6 2012, 12:24 AM)
Bad News Test unit  oso been Taken,  Kuching - XP3 stock Zero xp


Added on September 6, 2012, 12:26 amTry Foam + Gobive MiniBoxes , you will supprise
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WHAT??!! doh.gif Darn, was going to compare mine when it reaches 70+ hours, guess I'll just trust my ear this time. sweat.gif
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this earphone is getting more and more popular!
Whoever is looking for an entry range earphone, this is definitely my best recommendation.



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whoever wish to get a chance to win a new beyerdynamic earphone.
Join the lucky draw offering by jaben!!

http://www.facebook.com/JabenMY
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A lot people chose 2: 88 years in audio professional, guaranteed with excellent sound quality
I guess Beyerdynamic promised a good sound to be reproduced.
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 6 2012, 10:02 PM)
A lot people chose 2: 88 years in audio professional, guaranteed with excellent sound quality
I guess Beyerdynamic promised a good sound to be reproduced.
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Hi Walabies. Can you confirm that jaben Hong Kong also got this XP.
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Wow, I can't answer you that... maybe you can write email to them? I am not in charge of Jaben HK.
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Hi Walabies, when the next XP3 shipment about to arrive, can you PM me? Want to drop by subang there one fine day to visit your place biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 7 2012, 02:00 PM)
Wow, I can't answer you that... maybe you can write email to them? I am not in charge of Jaben HK.
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Haha looks like u r surprise by the question biggrin.gif Actually I've sent them email but no reply
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A huge batch of something just arrived smile.gif

http://www.headjam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1308
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 8 2012, 10:03 AM)
A huge batch of something just arrived smile.gif

http://www.headjam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1308
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wow hippo foam. Is it good, I wanna try!
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xp3 user and proud of it...
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 8 2012, 08:51 AM)
wow hippo foam. Is it good, I wanna try!
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could be how much? what the tip size? 100,400?
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come all the XP users, post your impression =D
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Sep 8 2012, 11:19 AM)
could be how much? what the tip size? 100,400?
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The size resembles Comply T400
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 8 2012, 09:59 PM)
The size resembles Comply T400
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I need 100 yawn.gif



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there are small batch came in for XP series, hurry up and grab them!

http://www.headjam.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1309
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Yo everyone, been enjoying the Beyerdynamic XP3 from the day I started purchase through Jaben online store. Was pretty skeptical in the first place “Beyer earphone?” “RM199?” “you gotta be kidding me right?”.
There hasn’t been many information on the internet, mainly got the information and some review from springheadphone blogspot, head-fi review, and heavily recommend by them, so I finally take the plunge and ordered an unit of XP3 from them, never been happy before!

This is my first review, hope I’m able to cover all the necessary points to make everyone love it!

My first impression of the product from the website :
XP1 : Bass signature
XP2 : Balance signature
XP3 : Clear signature

According to reviews, XP3 should have the most balance sounding, so hey! XP3 ordered…

When I received the parcel, first impression…. What… the packaging…. After 5 mins of sadness, I finally realize it is “Beyerdynamic” (If you know what I mean, their headphone packaging is having the similar “awkward” design).

Ditch away the package, got the earphone, the accessories are pretty normal, sleeves, pouch and nothing else…

So… Let’s get into sound review shall we?

The Soundstage is on the average side, it presents in more forward and aggressive signature as I was using the single flange. However what i mean is XP3 still preserve a decent quality of staging, not a totally on your face type, XP3 does not sound stuffy or compressed.

Detail separation surprisingly quite good, as before I’m expecting a messy grainy lump up for massive instruments. However XP3 manage to keep most instruments apart and still present a transparent and fast impact to the body.
I tried with heavy metal such as Iron maiden “Invader” to slow smooth song such as Michael buble “song for you”, I’m still able to spot instruments and decent extension speed.


XP3 has good mid-bass, it is tender and smooth, not too much emphasis to it, especially the quantity, just nice, sufficient, tight and well controlled.
However it’s not as accurate as BA driver, a little bit of mid bass hump will be spotted if you pay close attention, but I’m enjoying the dynamic of the bass.
Low Bass has nice extension and rumbling, overly flow sometimes caused overlay on Mid bass, which makes slightly excessive on the bass side. But I didn’t expect a “clear” version has this amount of bass, a big bonus to me…
XP3 has airy vocal and mid range, it is natural and smooth, slightly laidback which out of my expectation, presented in a minor V-shape frequency respond, but great extension on both ends.
The treble is really great and precise. Slight treble sparking can be spotted on, presented in a bright environment but not sharp to your ear.

Conclusion? For RM199, it is a great steal man!!

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Cheers for a new Beyer XP earphone user.
This earphone really builds like so sturdy, clapping them together produce is metal hitting metal sound, while the packaging resembles the old DT231, if you recall, the headphone is d@mn unappealing while providing you so bang for buck sound. And they are build like tanks.

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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Sep 9 2012, 08:14 PM)
The beyer iem poison is spreading everywhere biggrin.gif
i can see so many happy buyer smile.gif
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hhuu~ me no happy, xp1 tak ngam saya sad.gif
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post Sep 9 2012, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 9 2012, 08:26 PM)
hhuu~ me no happy, xp1 tak ngam saya sad.gif
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lagi pun you get it for free smile.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 9 2012, 08:26 PM)
hhuu~ me no happy, xp1 tak ngam saya sad.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 10 2012, 12:55 PM)
U must be want xp3? Sell it off and get a xp3
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 10 2012, 01:01 PM)
haha, you read my mind
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too bassy for you?
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Sep 10 2012, 04:22 PM)
too bassy for you?
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 10 2012, 04:28 PM)
totally
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Even the XP3 is quite bassy (by cable design) for me, gotten used to CK300M signature, burned into my brain for the past 4 years lol. cool.gif

Gonna burn in that XP3 to loosen the bass feels... yeap~~ wink.gif

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post Sep 12 2012, 03:30 PM

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Yes, XP3 can be considered "quite bass" if you expect it is a pure detail and clean sound with very less impact and extension.
I was shocked too when i first got the product.
But hey, it is actually become a bonus for me, as i can get the fun punch when i need it.
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QUOTE(discretesound @ Sep 12 2012, 06:01 PM)
Ordered XP3! can't wait for mine to arrive smile.gif
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QUOTE(discretesound @ Sep 12 2012, 06:01 PM)
Ordered XP3! can't wait for mine to arrive smile.gif
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From the shopping website? smile.gif
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Impression of 100+ hours burn in. One sentence, you just can't get rid that bass feels LOL, very rumble and punchy.
Detail wise is where this starts, it gets clearer with burn in.
Currently I'm queueing list of song consist of some classic like Sophie Milman, Louis Amstrong, follow by several of my top picked Anime song, metal, rock, ochestral, mixture with lots of vocal to drive the mid out of this baby, now I'm only goes for 7 hours per day with 5 minutes break between album (uses blank MP3).
XP3 is nice to listen to instruments focus music, vocal wise is a bit lad back, which is why some of the reviews state it gives "V" shape sound.
I'll audition the XP1 which is suppose to be bass heavy, the boss is currently burn in that unit, hopefully can get a good listen to compare them, according to him, he prefer the XP2 (balanced)

Add: But if your DAC can bring out the mid, then the V should sound like U. wink.gif

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 12 2012, 10:32 PM)
Impression  of 100+ hours burn in. One sentence, you just can't get rid that bass feels LOL, very rumble and punchy.
Detail wise is where this starts, it gets clearer with burn in.
Currently I'm queueing list of song consist of some classic like Sophie Milman, Louis Amstrong, follow by several of my top picked Anime song, metal, rock, ochestral, mixture with lots of vocal to drive the mid out of this baby, now I'm only goes for 7 hours per day with 5 minutes break between album (uses blank MP3).
XP3 is nice to listen to instruments focus music, vocal wise is a bit lad back, which is why some of the reviews state it gives "V" shape sound.
I'll audition the XP1 which is suppose to be bass heavy, the boss is currently burn in that unit, hopefully can get a good listen to compare them, according to him, he prefer the XP2 (balanced)

Add: But if your DAC can bring out the mid, then the V should sound like U. wink.gif
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lol didnt mention xp what?
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 12 2012, 10:45 PM)
lol didnt mention xp what?
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Erm... not sure if I understand you correctly or not, maybe I should mention that I'm using XP3 myself?
I only own the XP3 hehe... will save up for something more poisonous... brows.gif
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Sep 12 2012, 08:05 PM)
Lol bro. Kena poison ? Haha anyway you can update ur signature aldy smile.gif
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Too strong la this poison. Cannot tahan tongue.gif

QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 12 2012, 08:54 PM)
From the shopping website? smile.gif
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Buy it online thru sg site since i am currently overseas. Will sapu xp2 when im back tongue.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 12 2012, 10:32 PM)
Impression  of 100+ hours burn in. One sentence, you just can't get rid that bass feels LOL, very rumble and punchy.
Detail wise is where this starts, it gets clearer with burn in.
Currently I'm queueing list of song consist of some classic like Sophie Milman, Louis Amstrong, follow by several of my top picked Anime song, metal, rock, ochestral, mixture with lots of vocal to drive the mid out of this baby, now I'm only goes for 7 hours per day with 5 minutes break between album (uses blank MP3).
XP3 is nice to listen to instruments focus music, vocal wise is a bit lad back, which is why some of the reviews state it gives "V" shape sound.
I'll audition the XP1 which is suppose to be bass heavy, the boss is currently burn in that unit, hopefully can get a good listen to compare them, according to him, he prefer the XP2 (balanced)

Add: But if your DAC can bring out the mid, then the V should sound like U. wink.gif
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Noooo not this poison icon_question.gif Got too many IEM in my collection already and too little moneyflies.gif to spend.

Btw who's the boss u'r talking about hmm.gif
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post Sep 13 2012, 02:25 PM

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the mid is slight laid back in XP3, but still quite revealing in overall presentation, as it is not towards bell shape mid forward signature.
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the V, U, Bell shape all those are talking about the low, mid and high (like a equalizer setting)?
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yeap, E.g
V = good treble, good bass
Bell shape = Good mid, average slope down treble and bass.
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Just got my unit today. Wonder how strong is XP1 bass....
Even XP3 i feel the bass is strong enough while playing Rihanna - Where have you been
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 13 2012, 02:13 PM)
Noooo not this poison  icon_question.gif  Got too many IEM in my collection already and too little  moneyflies.gif to spend.

Btw who's the boss u'r talking about  hmm.gif
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SLCG Boss at OneJaya, Kuching, Sarawak. wink.gif
Btw he's also a forum-er here but less active, sslim3883
He always introduce some poison to me, LOL... yeap I got poisoned as well, by a strong poison that yet to come... need to fill up my wallet first, this month already empty le sweat.gif

QUOTE(zandara @ Sep 13 2012, 03:11 PM)
Just got my unit today. Wonder how strong is XP1 bass....
Even XP3 i feel the bass is strong enough while playing Rihanna - Where have you been
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According to review, the amount of bass is same for these XP series, means it could be just the design of the cable that affects it, and the other factors just could be the housing, very strange that those design can affect the EQ so much. hmm.gif
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the bass is somehow felt different for me

XP1 - strong mid bass and low bass.
XP2- reduce the mid bass and low bass, but main a very strong mid bass punch.
XP3- reduce the mid bass even more, and maintain the low bass like XP2.

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Got mine yesterday (XP3).

test few songs after open the box. compare to my old EP630 (im not audiophile). Much2 better. Then burn in around 15 hours until this morning. Compare again right now. The sound much2 better and seriously left my old iem behind. makan asap.

I cant explain if its fast, warm, whatever. But to me. xp3 suitable to all songs and the best thing. compare to other rm400-500 iem. This one is a steal...
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QUOTE(bzz @ Sep 14 2012, 02:41 PM)
Got mine yesterday (XP3).

test few songs after open the box. compare to my old EP630 (im not audiophile). Much2 better. Then burn in around 15 hours until this morning. Compare again right now. The sound much2 better and seriously left my old iem behind. makan asap.

I cant explain if its fast, warm, whatever. But to me. xp3 suitable to all songs and the best thing. compare to other rm400-500 iem. This one is a steal...
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EP630, reminds me of my first ever IEM that I gave away~
Have you auditioned Yamaha EPH-100? You'll be surprised. Anyway that's totally different league.
XP3 is good at its price range, better than the A-JAY for the bass head (Beats aside).
15 hours of burning is still too early to tell, 70+ hours is the where it starts, almost 180 degree different from 0 hour. sweat.gif
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Yeap, Xp series can be a great fight in the range of RM300 - RM450, and it sometimes do outperform them surprisingly.
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QUOTE(zandara @ Sep 13 2012, 03:11 PM)
Just got my unit today. Wonder how strong is XP1 bass....
Even XP3 i feel the bass is strong enough while playing Rihanna - Where have you been
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There never is enough for people who quench for bass smile.gif

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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 5 2012, 03:20 PM)
Definitely you can preorder. Which model?
Never heard of this issue. Just dont slam it with loud volume and let it rest for some time later is enough.
XP3 I guess, XP2 if you like more ohmp... icon_idea.gif
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Xp3? Haha I can bank in the money ASAP if needed. Or do I have to order it thru the jaben Web?
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yesterday went there for warranty claiming, still saw a few XP series left,
and they are still selling in their online store

http://jaben.com.my/shopping2/Beyerdynamic...-Clear-Edition/

Grab it before it out of stock =)
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Windboy a promoter of jaben? Alway spreading the poison here. Haha.
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haha, no la, as i got few items for me and my brothers from them, like the way how they sell their product, to let you demo everything possible.
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Just got back from Jaben Subang. Wallet lighter by RM200 tongue.gif

Looking forward to Wednesday poslaju for my XP3 biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 14 2012, 03:31 PM)
EP630, reminds me of my first ever IEM that I gave away~
Have you auditioned Yamaha EPH-100? You'll be surprised. Anyway that's totally different league.
XP3 is good at its price range, better than the A-JAY for the bass head (Beats aside).
15 hours of burning is still too early to tell, 70+ hours is the where it starts, almost 180 degree different from 0 hour. sweat.gif
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Jaben selling EPH100?
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Just took my XP3 unit from Jaben Penang today, auditioned XP1 and XP3, still XP3 sounds best to me. Love the solid built btw.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 15 2012, 09:47 PM)
Just took my XP3 unit from Jaben Penang today, auditioned XP1 and XP3, still XP3 sounds best to me. Love the solid built btw.
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Looks like Jaben Penang is the only one with XP3 in stock. My XP3 also is incoming from Penang branch.

Didn't try XP1 as XP2 already too bassy for me.
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Xp3
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QUOTE(windboy @ Sep 15 2012, 02:48 PM)
haha, no la, as i got few items for me and my brothers from them, like the way how they sell their product, to let you demo everything possible.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 15 2012, 05:56 PM)
Jaben selling EPH100?
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er... nop
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added more users on front page, if you have some question on XP series, visit first page first post =).
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 16 2012, 01:15 AM)
Looks like Jaben Penang is the only one with XP3 in stock. My XP3 also is incoming from Penang branch.

Didn't try XP1 as XP2 already too bassy for me.
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I did make my reservation from them when they announce that XP3 left 1 unit on their facebook..So, I'm just lucky able to get that last unit. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 16 2012, 06:06 PM)
I did make my reservation from them when they announce that XP3 left 1 unit on their facebook..So, I'm just lucky able to get that last unit.  tongue.gif
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Lucky you. tongue.gif Around what time was then? 4-5pm?


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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 16 2012, 06:14 PM)
Lucky you.  tongue.gif  Around what time was then? 4-5pm?
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If I'm not mistaken, it's around afternoon 3pm when they announce it, then straight away I pm Jaben penang.. tongue.gif
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XP3 users, wanna ask if after burn in, does the highs still stay strong? The female vocals sounds sharp to me.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 02:44 PM)
XP3 users, wanna ask if after burn in, does the highs still stay strong? The female vocals sounds sharp to me.
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Took me a while to reply (always Gateway timed out)... ok, time to reply.
XP3 has a V shape band so the bass and high sounded high, tune down the volume should help a bit, otherwise you'll just need to tune the EQ with less treble.
XP2 is rather flat (balance) so the high won't be so sharp.
I, myself also got slightly irritated by the extreme high but I guess I got used to my AT-CK300M which has very flat treble responds, but the clarity and detail really good on the XP3, should be the reason of the high that pushes some of the detail that you usually won't notice.
I'll try to audition the XP2 again to compare it with my XP3 after 150 hour burn-in.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 18 2012, 05:27 PM)
Took me a while to reply (always Gateway timed out)... ok, time to reply.
XP3 has a V shape band so the bass and high sounded high, tune down the volume should help a bit, otherwise you'll just need to tune the EQ with less treble.
XP2 is rather flat (balance) so the high won't be so sharp.
I, myself also got slightly irritated by the extreme high but I guess I got used to my AT-CK300M which has very flat treble responds, but the clarity and detail really good on the XP3, should be the reason of the high that pushes some of the detail that you usually won't notice.
I'll try to audition the XP2 again to compare it with my XP3 after 150 hour burn-in.
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So I guess that XP3's high still will stay high even after long hours of burn in?
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 05:37 PM)
So I guess that XP3's high still will stay high even after long hours of burn in?
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You can try with 200 hours burn in and try it but my ear just itch to try out after several hours lol, but after 80+ hours the audio isn't so significant already so if it's still too high to you then I'm not sure what way to reduce it (burn in).
Anyway there're few AMP out there that you can try out to reduce the high, some did that (need to audition) if I remember correctly it's a small white box, from Hippo unsure.gif ... well you can use that as pass-through to reduce the high.
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anyone up for a trade for my xp1, really not my thing, maybe xp3 can suit
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getting dizzy listening david guetta on xp1, the bass is bombarding me like an ac-130, death from above~
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 18 2012, 10:27 PM)
getting dizzy listening david guetta on xp1, the bass is bombarding me like an ac-130, death from above~
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mainstream song has massive bass that would blow up your mind !!
if you are not that kind of person tat like massive bass~
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QUOTE(Alex05187 @ Sep 18 2012, 10:31 PM)
mainstream song has massive bass that would blow up your mind !!
if you are not that kind of person tat like massive bass~
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this totally dont fit me, so i asking sincerely for anyone up for an exchange.. xp3 or final audio perhaps
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 18 2012, 05:49 PM)
You can try with 200 hours burn in and try it but my ear just itch to try out after several hours lol, but after 80+ hours the audio isn't so significant already so if it's still too high to you then I'm not sure what way to reduce it (burn in).
Anyway there're few AMP out there that you can try out to reduce the high, some did that (need to audition) if I remember correctly it's a small white box, from Hippo unsure.gif ... well you can use that as pass-through to reduce the high.
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White hippo box? Hippo box+, hippo cricri? Btw, still burning in, hope the highs won't stay that way..like the Beyer DT231, at first the high are very high, but after using it for a year, it getting more neutral.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 10:55 PM)
White hippo box? Hippo box+, hippo cricri? Btw, still burning in, hope the highs won't stay that way..like the Beyer DT231, at first the high are very high, but after using it for a year, it getting more neutral.
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Let it settle down for a longer time. Beyer products tends to have longer burn in time.
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QUOTE(walabies @ Sep 19 2012, 01:15 AM)
Let it settle down for a longer time. Beyer products tends to have longer burn in time.
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Ok, will use it more often and see if there's improvement.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 19 2012, 06:41 AM)
Ok, will use it more often and see if there's improvement.
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Searching for more classic 24-96... *ahem* whistling.gif


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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 10:55 PM)
White hippo box? Hippo box+, hippo cricri? Btw, still burning in, hope the highs won't stay that way..like the Beyer DT231, at first the high are very high, but after using it for a year, it getting more neutral.
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http://jaben.com.my/shopping2/Hippo-Pipe-Mini-Amplifier/
It's Hippo Pipe Mini, found the image at Jaben Malaysia, the demo unit at SCLG is way too plain, just know it's a white stuff, you can try to audition it and see if it can helps you, or take boss walabies advice, he's experienced afterall brows.gif

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 19 2012, 06:59 AM)
wink.gif Yeap~ That's the spirit, patient... well, I'm currently queueing more songs (vocal) for extended burn-in.
Searching for more classic 24-96... *ahem* whistling.gif


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http://jaben.com.my/shopping2/Hippo-Pipe-Mini-Amplifier/
It's Hippo Pipe Mini, found the image at Jaben Malaysia, the demo unit at SCLG is way too plain, just know it's a white stuff, you can try to audition it and see if it can helps you, or take boss walabies advice, he's experienced afterall  brows.gif
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Tried it before, it extends the bass if I heard it correctly, not sure if the mids does too.
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My XP3 arrrived rclxm9.gif
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Is it available at Jaben Penang for testing?
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try with different tips, the tips can actually tame the high slightly down by going for better seal and deeper insertion.

Personally i'm using third party tips now instead of the stock beyery xp.

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QUOTE(windboy @ Sep 19 2012, 01:13 PM)
try with different tips, the tips can actually tame the high slightly down by going for better seal and deeper insertion.

Personally i'm using third party tips now instead of the stock beyery xp.
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Which 3rd party tip u r using? I'm still looking for the perfect silicon tip. For now I settle for tips that come with my Adagio II.
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Was just wondering, I was bundled in with a pair of foam tips by Hippo, when i purchased by XP2, hence i'm curious about the performance of Comply foam tips.

Anyone with experience with these 2 and is it worth it to fork out the cash for the Comply foam tips, or just stick to these hippos? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 19 2012, 03:25 PM)
Which 3rd party tip u r using? I'm still looking for the perfect silicon tip. For now I settle for tips that come with my Adagio II.
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Not too sure on that, a free tips i get from Jaben, it fits better in my ear and better seal, and i can get much warmer sound.


QUOTE(melvin93 @ Sep 19 2012, 03:47 PM)
Was just wondering, I was bundled with a pair of foam tips by Hippo, when i purchased by XP2, hence i'm curious about the performance of Comply foam tips.

Anyone with experience with these 2 and is it worth it to fork out the cash for the Comply foam tips, or just stick to these hippos?  tongue.gif
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Tried both, although the material seem different, but both same feel in my ears, sounding wise i couldnt differentiate much. However Hippo Foam is so much cheaper compare with comply, so i stick with hippos =P.
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QUOTE(windboy @ Sep 19 2012, 04:00 PM)
Not too sure on that, a free tips i get from Jaben, it fits better in my ear and better seal, and i can get much warmer sound.
Tried both, although the material seem different, but both same feel in my ears, sounding wise i couldnt differentiate much. However Hippo Foam is so much cheaper compare with comply, so i stick with hippos =P.
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Ok thanks for the quick reply, I guess the sound cannot get any better anymore blush.gif .

And I lost my silicone tips.. sad.gif . Albeit, these foams are generally much nicer to the ears.
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who sell this earphone? i want it smile.gif reply asap
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QUOTE(AsTheCreatorZ @ Sep 19 2012, 07:17 PM)
who sell this earphone? i want it smile.gif reply asap
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er Jaben
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So far in world wide only Jaben is their exclusive distributor of XP series, contact them or you can purchase through their online store.

http://jaben.com.my/shopping2/Beyerdynamic-Earphone.html
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The exclusive is for 6 months if not mistaken.
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QUOTE(manypplwan @ Sep 19 2012, 11:05 AM)
Is it available at Jaben Penang for testing?
I wanna try it smile.gif
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Yes..

QUOTE(AsTheCreatorZ @ Sep 19 2012, 07:17 PM)
who sell this earphone? i want it smile.gif reply asap
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 19 2012, 08:48 PM)
The exclusive is for 6 months if not mistaken.
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I guess US wont be selling this, luckily malaysia yes!
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160-hour+ impression, just a quick one on this, not much changes.
Highs, now this one is a good improvement, the ear piercing highs now feels great, it seems to settle down.
Mid, same, slightly U (might due to Hippo Cri Cri+), anyway the voice now feels great as well with the highs settle down.
Bass, there's certainly lots, hey, it's XP series... so if you don't like Bass, sorry boss go for AT or FAD.
Sound stage, wonder if it's me or the stage just widen by slightly, not much until you really notice it. Anyway I didn't use the stock tips, I use one of the Galaxy Note IEM stock tips (white one) that fits my ear perfectly. Have not yet try double-flange tips.

Good luck to all XP3 owners out there, keep up the burning, will report in again after 200-hour+.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 20 2012, 07:35 PM)
160-hour+ impression, just a quick one on this, not much changes.
Highs, now this one is a good improvement, the ear piercing highs now feels great, it seems to settle down.
Mid, same, slightly U (might due to Hippo Cri Cri+), anyway the voice now feels great as well with the highs settle down.
Bass, there's certainly lots, hey, it's XP series... so if you don't like Bass, sorry boss go for AT or FAD.
Sound stage, wonder if it's me or the stage just widen by slightly, not much until you really notice it. Anyway I didn't use the stock tips, I use one of the Galaxy Note IEM stock tips (white one) that fits my ear perfectly. Have not yet try double-flange tips.

Good luck to all XP3 owners out there, keep up the burning, will report in again after 200-hour+.
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i believe the tips do make a lot of effects on the bright side, previously i was getting bad fit with bright sound, after that with 3rd party tips exchanged, everything went fine until now.

Currently 100 hours+ burn in, not too sure on the change as i didnt compare ^^, enjoy it non stop.


*Update on Jaben Facebook, once again a small batch came in, grab them if you are following this thread =D.
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Wonder if any comply foam tips can fit on XP series..wish to get 1 unit to try.


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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Sep 20 2012, 07:35 PM)
160-hour+ impression, just a quick one on this, not much changes.
Highs, now this one is a good improvement, the ear piercing highs now feels great, it seems to settle down.
Mid, same, slightly U (might due to Hippo Cri Cri+), anyway the voice now feels great as well with the highs settle down.
Bass, there's certainly lots, hey, it's XP series... so if you don't like Bass, sorry boss go for AT or FAD.
Sound stage, wonder if it's me or the stage just widen by slightly, not much until you really notice it. Anyway I didn't use the stock tips, I use one of the Galaxy Note IEM stock tips (white one) that fits my ear perfectly. Have not yet try double-flange tips.

Good luck to all XP3 owners out there, keep up the burning, will report in again after 200-hour+.
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May I ask how do you track the hours of burn-in? biggrin.gif

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About 30 hours of burn in and still quite V shape sound compared to my main gear. Sure hope it gets to a flatter U after 200 hours. But IEM doesn't need as long to fully burn in as headphones right?
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there is slight V for XP series, but not extremely, i'm still able to identify Mid freq pretty easily, however there is slight slope on the mid high and mid low, but they are forgiving =)
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Yes, please let us know your impressions after this...
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I know I might get flake for saying this but currently the 30 hours burn-in xp3 doesn't sound comparatively near to Jaben's demo unit, very far from it actually.

It has been mentioned longer burn-in is needed but can longer burn-in result in 50% SQ improvement for xp3?
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 21 2012, 09:52 PM)
I know I might get flake for saying this but currently the 30 hours burn-in xp3 doesn't sound comparatively near to Jaben's demo unit, very far from it actually.

It has been mentioned longer burn-in is needed but can longer burn-in result in 50% SQ improvement for xp3?
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I do agree with you somehow and I believe that Jaben's unit frequently used for demo thus burn-in process is much longer..
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 21 2012, 09:52 PM)
I know I might get flake for saying this but currently the 30 hours burn-in xp3 doesn't sound comparatively near to Jaben's demo unit, very far from it actually.

It has been mentioned longer burn-in is needed but can longer burn-in result in 50% SQ improvement for xp3?
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the percentage of SQ improved will be judged by you my friend biggrin.gif
some one might think it improve 100% but some might think only 20%
depends on how your ears like it smile.gif
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how big is the different compare with Jaben 1?
continue burn in is the only way eh.

Wonder will beyer come out even more awesome IEM in this price range in future.

They have their existing line of MX series, but seem not famous enough as a great recommendation in worldwide.
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Finally received my unit!

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The build quality is outstanding! I didn't expect a metal constructed shell for the price.
However I have a love/hate relationship with the kway teow inspired cable. It is absolutely tangle free but it has a very bad microphonics.

Sound wise, this definitely has boosted bass. The sub bass rumble is actually quite enjoyable for me and it sounds clean without any noticeable distortion.
The mids however sound slightly muted for my liking and the treble can sound peaky at times. hopefully this will sound better with time.
The price to performance ratio however is really good. I much prefer the sound of this to the beats studio which have an artificial sounding highs with bloated treble.
Definitely a good buy thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(discretesound @ Sep 22 2012, 05:51 PM)
Finally received my unit!

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The build quality is outstanding! I didn't expect a metal constructed shell for the price.
However I have a love/hate relationship with the kway teow inspired cable. It is absolutely tangle free but it has a very bad microphonics.

Sound wise, this definitely has boosted bass. The sub bass rumble is actually quite enjoyable for me and it sounds clean without any noticeable distortion.
The mids however sound slightly muted for my liking and the treble can sound peaky at times. hopefully this will sound better with time.
The price to performance ratio however is really good. I much prefer the sound of this to the beats studio which have an artificial sounding highs with bloated treble.
Definitely a good buy  thumbup.gif
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Going to be the user of xp2 soon smile.gif won it from jaben lucky draw. wonder if there's still any stock in Jaben Penang, would like to claim it this few days.
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QUOTE(beh0211 @ Sep 23 2012, 12:07 AM)
Going to be the user of xp2 soon smile.gif won it from jaben lucky draw. wonder if there's still any stock in Jaben Penang, would like to claim it this few days.
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haha, congratz, i was the xp1 winner @ jaben MY lucky draw, we winners sure get a lot of "yerr~~"
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congratz for the winner, hope you enjoy the product =D
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Hi guys, is it comfortable and lightweight like fa eterna and phonak pfe?
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Hehehe. I can go later to claim it. Is there any stock left in Jaben Penang ? wink.gif


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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 23 2012, 09:48 AM)
haha, congratz, i was the xp1 winner @ jaben MY lucky draw, we winners sure get a lot of "yerr~~"
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How's the xp1? biggrin.gif

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Hehehe. I can go later to claim it. Is there any stock left in Jaben Penang ? wink.gif


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How's the xp1? biggrin.gif
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bass is strong till my head rclxub.gif
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bass is strong till my head  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 21 20152 PM)
I know I might get flake for saying this but currently the 30 hours burn-in xp3 doesn't sound comparatively near to Jaben's demo unit, very far from i
It has been mentioned longer burn-in is needed but can longer burn-in result in 50% SQ improvement for xp3?
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If you want it to have the signature you want, then burn in with your own song, and try to avoid heavy bass, cause mine right now has so much bass it can rival XP1, anyway I'm now focus on the vocal and try to loosen the driver so the detail won't sound too analytical, want some slight trail on those details so the mid would sound relax.
That's all, after 150-hour, there's not much to improve except to get the frequency response to settle down wink.gif

Add: After auditioned the XP2, I found I prefer that much forward mid, but all others is slight laid back so the instruments won't sound nice, well, those are just something that I have to compensate. At least I still have my old trustee AT-CK300M "bell" sound that I like.

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just got my XP1 few days ago.

just noticed left side when i press into my ear i can hear a weird sound. even if it is not playing song. tried to switch flanges from right to left, the sound still there.

is it earbud problem or it is normal?
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Sep 24 2012, 02:18 PM)
just got my XP1 few days ago.

just noticed left side when i press into my ear i can hear a weird sound. even if it is not playing song. tried to switch flanges from right to left, the sound still there.

is it earbud problem or it is normal?
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might be a loose connection inside, try returning it for a check up
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 23 2012, 04:20 PM)
bass is strong till my head  rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 24 2012, 02:47 PM)
might be a loose connection inside, try returning it for a check up
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but even if i unplug and try to press it into my ear also got that sound.

problem is i bought it at sg last friday and accidentally threw the receipt.

dont know Jaben here will entertain or not.
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Sep 24 2012, 03:05 PM)
but even if i unplug and try to press it into my ear also got that sound.

problem is i bought it at sg last friday and accidentally threw the receipt.

dont know Jaben here will entertain or not.
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they should have the record still
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 24 2012, 03:18 PM)
they should have the record still
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but i am in msia now and bought at singapore last week.

anybody tried before bought at sg claim at msia. Sg Jaben told me maybe can.
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QUOTE(cristiano7mu @ Sep 24 2012, 03:49 PM)
but i am in msia now and bought at singapore last week.

anybody tried before bought at sg claim at msia. Sg Jaben told me maybe can.
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maybe ask jabenMY to communicate with them and ask for help
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i think you need the receipt only they will proceed for warranty.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Sep 23 2012, 01:50 PM)
Hi guys, is it comfortable and lightweight like fa eterna and phonak pfe?
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But do keep in mind they are different category.
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tried it just just now at Jaben. i personally like the XP2. but no stock at the moment :'(
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My XP3 got channel imbalance..sighhh..but thankfully 8.A is on its way
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QUOTE(discretesound @ Sep 25 2012, 06:03 PM)
My XP3 got channel imbalance..sighhh..but thankfully 8.A is on its way
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you mean one side is normal and the other side sound is too soft?
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you mean one side is normal and the other side sound is too soft?
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Yes. One side bass and highs rolled off. The other side normal.
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QUOTE(discretesound @ Sep 25 2012, 06:03 PM)
My XP3 got channel imbalance..sighhh..but thankfully 8.A is on its way
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No worries you can do 1 to 1 exchange with us.
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Announcement from Beyerdynamic website, XP series exclusive only for Asia market.

http://asia-pacific-india.beyerdynamic.com.../xp-series.html
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Yup, Beyerdynamic has officially announce what this XP series is about.
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Our partner Jaben assured us to deliver only to Asian customer, but if any XP in-ears show up in your market, or in case you receive warranty claims from customers, please let us know immediately.

Quote from http://asia-pacific-india.beyerdynamic.com.../xp-series.html

What does that direct to? Reseller? Jaben? hmm.gif
So this also means US and EU consumer won't be able to get this? sweat.gif
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Not really. U can buy online. It is only more suitable for Asia taste.
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purchase online is the only way.
But i'm amazed by how Beyerdynamic cater their product to different region.

they specifically design a new product for different segment, put their afford and passion into audio industry.
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haha yea, i believe they are the first one who's doing this idea, good job beyer!!
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88 YEAR headphone company , beyer also need alot of time to burn in ... T 1 after 450 hour i still feel it can go futher
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Good product and good company,
thumbs up for whoever looking an entry range earphone =D.

you can check out my review in my blog too.
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I guess by now my XP3 should have clocked 200 hours of burn-in with mostly vocals and classical music. Volume on normal listening, with 5 min of blank mp3 for every hour of music.

The mid and high settled in better, which is a good sign for chance for improvement with more burn-in.

The bass however I think it wouldn't change. Bass notes that are normally brief still sound like they are lengthen by 0.2 - 0.3 sec.

If I change the burn-in to bass heavy music, will it make the bass tighter?
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 30 2012, 11:30 AM)
I guess by now my XP3 should have clocked 200 hours of burn-in with mostly vocals and classical music. Volume on normal listening, with 5 min of blank mp3 for every hour of music.

The mid and high settled in better, which is a good sign for chance for improvement with more burn-in.

The bass however I think it wouldn't change. Bass notes that are normally brief still sound like they are lengthen by 0.2 - 0.3 sec.

If I change the burn-in to bass heavy music, will it make the bass tighter?
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I doubt it'll change the structure and tuning of the drivers. If it has already reached it's maximum bass potential, it can no longer provide any more bass or any tighter and faster, even if you feed it with tracks bloated by bass. It'll present the music the way it is able to. If you switch back to normal music, then it'll most probably sound just like it was bass wise (and overall). To make a more accurate assessment, listen to your IEM with your usual music, and burn it in with heavy bass music but DO NOT listen to it. So any change you hear will not be because you have conditioned to that particular type of sound.

Any bass enhancements would purely be coincidental, most probably because it hadn't reach its fullest potential before you treated it with bass heavy music.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Sep 30 2012, 01:26 PM)
I doubt it'll change the structure and tuning of the drivers. If it has already reached it's maximum bass potential, it can no longer provide any more bass or any tighter and faster, even if you feed it with tracks bloated by bass. It'll present the music the way it is able to. If you switch back to normal music, then it'll most probably sound just like it was bass wise (and overall). To make a more accurate assessment, listen to your IEM with your usual music, and burn it in with heavy bass music but DO NOT listen to it. So any change you hear will not be because you have conditioned to that particular type of sound.

Any bass enhancements would purely be coincidental, most probably because it hadn't reach its fullest potential before you treated it with bass heavy music.
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not really sure on that, it still in an argument stage, some says yes some says no.
But from my personal experience, burn in does affect the sound a lot, but burn in different genre of music able to make the earphone sounded better in that, i wouldnt really go for that.
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Sep 30 2012, 02:51 PM)
not really sure on that, it still in an argument stage, some says yes some says no.
But from my personal experience, burn in does affect the sound a lot, but burn in different genre of music able to make the earphone sounded better in that, i wouldnt really go for that.
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Yeah burn in definitely does have an effect, but burning it in with an emphasis on a certain frequency range I'd say from logic and experience wouldn't work in making it better at that frequency range, agree with you there.
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Yeah, I'm aware also that if the maximum potential of any range have been fully gained from burning in, there's nothing else left to bring out from further burning in sessions.

Personally I have no idea how much bass gain left or how much potential gain XP3 has to start with in terms of bass. That is why I wanted to ask the other owners on their after burn-in bass response.
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Do the XP series have ear piercing highs like the Hippo VB?
Wanna try it out in jaben but kinda difficult to travel from my hometown
Looking at the XP3 cuz im not really into bass...having a tight bass will just do instead of rumbling

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Do the XP series have ear piercing highs like the Hippo VB?
Wanna try it out in jaben but kinda difficult to travel from my hometown
Looking at the XP3 cuz im not really into bass...having a tight bass will just do instead of rumbling
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from all our fellow audiophiles conversation, my assumption is no, not likely the character of beyer to do piercing highs also
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My XP3 does has the ear-piercing highs period, that's called the break-in period, just ~30 hours and it'll settle down, after that, the changes is not so significant anymore.
My 250+ hours has been reached yesterday, didn't notice anything much right now, and the details still quite analytical, not sure why though, compare to my AT-CK300M which has good detail trailing such as the clinging sound has some tiny good amount of trails, XP3 still lack of that, if that's because of the V shape sounding then I guess I'll have to live with that.
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I'm going for the long shot. After more than a week burning in using the laptop, I decided to hook up the XP3 to an old cassette player and tune in to the radio. Going to leave it on normal listening level for 2 weeks. After that, then I'll think what to do with it.

Anyone else thinks XP3 could use a volume amplifier? When I plugged it into the cassette player and was adjusting the volume, I found it can easily output at way higher volume than my laptop and handphone.


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i'm still in the phase of burn in.. but i must say that i tried different size of the silicon sleeves provided, but i personally feel they don't fit my ears.. T.T have to find 3rd party one..
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Oct 2 2012, 11:12 AM)
I'm going for the long shot. After more than a week burning in using the laptop, I decided to hook up the XP3 to an old cassette player and tune in to the radio. Going to leave it on normal listening level for 2 weeks. After that, then I'll think what to do with it.

Anyone else thinks XP3 could use a volume amplifier? When I plugged it into the cassette player and was adjusting the volume, I found it can easily output at way higher volume than my laptop and handphone.
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Maybe your cassette player has higher output power? When I reached the 180-hour mark, I auditioned the XP2 and feels the XP2 has higher volume than my XP3, not too sure what happen but it does, good luck with your burn-in.

QUOTE(shimon @ Oct 2 2012, 09:33 PM)
i'm still in the phase of burn in.. but i must say that i tried different size of the silicon sleeves provided, but i personally feel they don't fit my ears.. T.T have to find 3rd party one..
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Not all factory ear-bud suits all people, I use one of my Galaxy Note's stock ear-bud and it fit perfectly but the metal housing does hurt my ear if I tend to use it more than an hour, probably will try the double-flange and see if helps (reduce bass and increase mid-treble).
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double flange able to expand the staging, extend the decay of the bass, not too sure on mid and treble.
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today is a very sad day for me...

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wah, putus like that shocking.gif
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Stuck at the box opener and my friend push the box and snap...im so sad...
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Oct 3 2012, 04:09 PM)
double flange able to expand the staging, extend the decay of the bass, not too sure on mid and treble.
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Yes, the mid and treble sounded better to me by using the double-flange IMHO, though I'm not sure how others feels.

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OH MY GOAT!! A friend has deceased (mourning), a sad... cry.gif very sad day indeed.
Well, it's time to move on, how about this time you try the XP2? cool.gif

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It happens on my birthday...so sad
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Stuck at the box opener and my friend push the box and snap...im so sad...
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You mean it didn't even got out of the box? sad.gif
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Oct 4 2012, 04:03 PM)
You mean it didn't even got out of the box?  sad.gif
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Not its box...its around my neck at that time...i said to my friend just wait i want to pull out the earphone..he did not listened...instead he push the box forward and then you know what happen next...
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As im more into RnB and modern rock,i found that the XP2 suits my taste as the bass is not as punchy as XP1 and not too light as the XP3; perfect balance of clarity and bass thumping

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QUOTE(Topet @ Oct 4 2012, 07:13 PM)
Not its box...its around my neck at that time...i said to my friend just wait i want to pull out the earphone..he did not listened...instead he push the box forward and then you know what happen next...
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Hi Topet, bring the earphone in and we try do you some trade in... at least not a total lost. We will make the day for you.
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QUOTE(walabies @ Oct 4 2012, 11:47 PM)
Hi Topet, bring the earphone in and we try do you some trade in... at least not a total lost. We will make the day for you.
(This only applicable to Topet)
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I'll try bro...fortunately I'm in kl rite now...
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Hey guys, anybody compared the xp series with VSonic GR02 Bass Ed? Just wondering if the XP series is a significant upgrade, since the GR02 was already a fantastic IEM for its price. smile.gif


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Are this headset will be available till next year..?

Really interested to get one..
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haha, not too sure on the stock for jaben until next year, try to ask them, but they frequent out of stock due to hot product.
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haha, not too sure on the stock for jaben until next year, try to ask them, but they frequent out of stock due to hot product.
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Hope still available next year..

Want to buy now, don't have money..huhu..
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QUOTE(Darkchaser @ Oct 5 2012, 04:43 PM)
Hey guys, anybody compared the xp series with VSonic GR02 Bass Ed? Just wondering if the XP series is a significant upgrade, since the GR02 was already a fantastic IEM for its price. smile.gif
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I had auditioned the GR02 and took the XP3 instead, the bass is strong on the GR02 but I like something more on the mid and detail so I chose XP3, GR02 is great, but the bass is similar to XP1, way too much unless you're one that like Beats that kind of Bass.
Anyway, XP3 is great (almost 300-hour, yeah babe!) but it seems my ear can't accustom to the huge driver build housing, hurts my ear every time I wear for more than half-an-hour, I have found a way to minimize the stress but it'll still hurts my ear, at least I can now wear longer, probably an hour or slightly more. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 5 2012, 10:48 PM)
I had auditioned the GR02 and took the XP3 instead, the bass is strong on the GR02 but I like something more on the mid and detail so I chose XP3, GR02 is great, but the bass is similar to XP1, way too much unless you're one that like Beats that kind of Bass.
Anyway, XP3 is great (almost 300-hour, yeah babe!) but it seems my ear can't accustom to the huge driver build housing, hurts my ear every time I wear for more than half-an-hour, I have found a way to minimize the stress but it'll still hurts my ear, at least I can now wear longer, probably an hour or slightly more. sweat.gif
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I burnt in for 50 hours only hehe. 300 hours any improvements ? biggrin.gif
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GR02 sounded more warm compare with XP series.
V-sonic always product earphone sounds "Correct", you get detail suppose at here, balance in there etc...

But lacking fun is the draw back.
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Oct 6 2012, 03:19 PM)
GR02 sounded more warm compare with XP series.
V-sonic always product earphone sounds "Correct", you get detail suppose at here, balance in there etc...

But lacking fun is the draw back.
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i normally call that type of pattern sounding "surgical", like a surgery, everything needs to be precise and exact, no more no less

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i normally call that type of pattern sounding "surgical", like a surgery, everything needs to be precise and exact, no more no less
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hahaha, you get the best description.
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http://webstore.wowloud.com/webshaper/stor...ProductItem=324
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Oct 7 2012, 02:31 AM)
who is this wowloud anyways.. recently only appear in lyn community.. store reliable?
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is it? not too sure about that as this is my first time saw them.
I only know Jaben in Malaysia.

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Oct 7 2012, 10:04 AM)
who is this wowloud anyways.. recently only appear in lyn community.. store reliable?
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I knew Wowload for its free music streaming software, never know they started to sell products too.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Oct 7 2012, 02:14 PM)
I knew Wowload for its free music streaming software, never know they started to sell products too.
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it has free shipping!!

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I guess Wowload take stock from E1 and Jaben
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=263...&type=1&theater

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So that means you can ask E1 and Jaben to see if the store's legit.
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E1 bro always helped them to promote smile.gif
i think its legit biggrin.gif
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i remeber WOWLOUD now, the fanny wang girls in the expo~ yep, they are wowloud
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lol it is kind of out of topic, but yea it seem jaben do supply them XP series.
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Yes, Jaben do supply to wowloud. This I can verify.

Well, let's get back to the topic and discuss how great the XP series is thumbup.gif
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they are great indeed, jaben should come out with more pro and event for XP series~
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they are great indeed, jaben should come out with more pro and event for XP series~
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yeah, and with a bit of jaben's trade secret in my hands, i roughly know how much range they are profiting, and can evaluate whether they are profiteering or just regular profit cool2.gif , but thats just me, dont bug me for the secrets, i aint gonna speak, rest assure, wowloud is okay for me

actually not a secret also la.. just i managed to compare their prices with interational ones, deduct this % deduct that rate, based on own calculations, find out rough costs they are at

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haha, not too sure on that, as RM199 is a price steal for this product, i believe it should price at RM300+.
and international price is around 60USD? seem everywhere is selling the same.
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anyone pls suggest me..

i am using Audio Technica CKM-55 about more than 2 years and now it's rosak already.. sad.gif really love its clarity, balance and not too deep bass. now, i am thinking to try to other brands which is same or better than my old IEM..

and in my mind now is, FAD Adagio 2 (OR) Bayerdynamics XP2

which is good? tq sifussss notworthy.gif cool.gif notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(aloy5415 @ Oct 9 2012, 01:45 PM)
anyone pls suggest me..

i am using Audio Technica CKM-55 about more than 2 years and now it's rosak already..  sad.gif  really love its clarity, balance and not too deep bass. now, i am thinking to try to other brands which is same or better than my old IEM..

and in my mind now is, FAD Adagio 2 (OR) Bayerdynamics XP2

which is good? tq sifussss  notworthy.gif  cool.gif  notworthy.gif
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Umm, if you does not like deep bass perhaps this is not for you, I have AT-CK300M and the bass is on totally different level, btw I'm using XP3.
FAD Adagio 2 is probably your best bet, but I would really suggest you to audition it yourself, probably seek for unit that's already more than 100-hour+ for much precise and settled sound signature of its true nature. wink.gif

My 300-hour+ still has room for improvement, 600-hour perhaps? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 9 2012, 03:00 PM)
Umm, if you does not like deep bass perhaps this is not for you, I have AT-CK300M and the bass is on totally different level, btw I'm using XP3.
FAD Adagio 2 is probably your best bet, but I would really suggest you to audition it yourself, probably seek for unit that's already more than 100-hour+ for much precise and settled sound signature of its true nature. wink.gif

My 300-hour+ still has room for improvement, 600-hour perhaps?  thumbup.gif
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whoa more than 100+hours.. isn't hard to find? guessing who can let me try his 'already burned-in' FAD Adagio 2/Bayer XP IEM hehe sweat.gif
btw i'm not prefer using AMP as my pocket is always full with 2 smartphone. hhaha.. so FAD or Bayer XP series is ok without amp?

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CKM55 can still consider a strong bass earphone, my best bet will be Beyer XP2
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CKM55 can still consider a strong bass earphone, my best bet will be Beyer XP2
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QUOTE(aloy5415 @ Oct 9 2012, 04:29 PM)
hmm i should consider XP2. tq for ur advise fren  nod.gif
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If you are considering an 'upgrade of your whole music experience'. Try the Adagio 3. rclxms.gif
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feel like selling of beats for a beyerdynamic iem . starting to hate headphone ;(.

xp2 will be great i think for me.
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regret~ should have tested it first before buying~

too bassy, smaller soundstage and lost of details compare with RE0

now can only hope the burn in will help it

got XP3 btw
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regret~ should have tested it first before buying~

too bassy, smaller soundstage and lost of details compare with RE0

now can only hope the burn in will help it

got XP3 btw
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RE0 and XP3 totally different league, cant be equalized
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Oct 9 2012, 09:58 PM)
RE0 and XP3 totally different league, cant be equalized
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In the budget segment, the RE0 is practically the king of detail and treble.
They're not even priced close enough.
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how much does RE0 cost usually?
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how much does RE0 cost usually?
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In the budget segment, the RE0 is practically the king of detail and treble.
They're not even priced close enough.
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well didn't expect it sound this bad sweat.gif


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which amp is more suitable for xp3 ? hippo cricri or govibe martini?
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Oct 10 2012, 12:09 AM)
RE0 design sux... took XP3 it becos of the design laugh.gif

well didn't expect it sound this bad sweat.gif
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If you had flip few pages to read those posts then you will notice why Beyerdynamic is making good drivers, and it's so hard to loosen it, a good 300-hour is just the beginning, first 70-hour can't even consider a listening pleasure.
The IEM is bassy at 0-hour, almost spoiled the fun of "virgin" but as you burn-in that sensation will disappear. Which is why I chose XP3 over GR-02.
But if you don't like bassy IEM then like I said again previous page, this IEM might not suits you.

My XP3 is currently settled down quite a few, bass is still remain but way better than the first 70~100-hour. With the included double-flange ear-bud, the bass is much relaxed.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 10 2012, 07:47 AM)
If you had flip few pages to read those posts then you will notice why Beyerdynamic is making good drivers, and it's so hard to loosen it, a good 300-hour is just the beginning, first 70-hour can't even consider a listening pleasure.
The IEM is bassy at 0-hour, almost spoiled the fun of "virgin" but as you burn-in that sensation will disappear. Which is why I chose XP3 over GR-02.
But if you don't like bassy IEM then like I said again previous page, this IEM might not suits you.

My XP3 is currently settled down quite a few, bass is still remain but way better than the first 70~100-hour. With the included double-flange ear-bud, the bass is much relaxed.
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Back couple of weeks when I received my XP3 I was worried how bad it sound compared to Jaben XP3 demo unit. Burn in is a necessity.

Still, isn't 300 hours burn-in more than enough for an IEM? The physical driver is only that small. *2cm thumb finger gap*
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How is the beyerdynamic XP compare with Shure SE215? in term of sound quality and isolation.

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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:53 AM)
Back couple of weeks when I received my XP3 I was worried how bad it sound compared to Jaben XP3 demo unit. Burn in is a necessity.

Still, isn't 300 hours burn-in more than enough for an IEM? The physical driver is only that small. *2cm thumb finger gap*
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Lots of the Beyerdynamic has very long burn-in, just the improvement isn't that noticeable any more after 100-hour+, only if you really notice it using different song/music after few days of burn-in. Need even longer period of gap to really notice the changes.
And the driver is not that huge (2cm), IMO it could be only 11.5 mm at best, could be 8.5 mm?
It's the housing that actually alter how the sounds like, XP3 has the colder metal ticking sound, slightly on the analytical.
SCLG boss also told me that cable also require burn-in, and it'll affect the overall sound stage, well, I won't know until I can reach that level. He did let me audition his 600-hour++ DT231Pro, the sound stage is just so amazing, and it's only RM2xx headphone. shocking.gif

Now I'm going to let it burn-in around 3 days before I have another listen (~9-hour per day)
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 10 2012, 01:43 PM)
Lots of the Beyerdynamic has very long burn-in, just the improvement isn't that noticeable any more after 100-hour+, only if you really notice it using different song/music after few days of burn-in. Need even longer period of gap to really notice the changes.
And the driver is not that huge (2cm), IMO it could be only 11.5 mm at best, could be 8.5 mm?
It's the housing that actually alter how the sounds like, XP3 has the colder metal ticking sound, slightly on the analytical.
SCLG boss also told me that cable also require burn-in, and it'll affect the overall sound stage, well, I won't know until I can reach that level. He did let me audition his 600-hour++ DT231Pro, the sound stage is just so amazing, and it's only RM2xx headphone. shocking.gif

Now I'm going to let it burn-in around 3 days before I have another listen (~9-hour per day)
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same with their headphone, burn in required =D
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Guys which one is a better amp for xp3 ? Hippo cricri and govibe martini ?
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QUOTE(beh0211 @ Oct 10 2012, 03:18 PM)
Guys which one is a better amp for xp3 ? Hippo cricri and govibe martini ?
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I myself is using Hippo Cri Cri+, suit my taste as the mid is much forward, not too sure about Govibe Martini but SLCG boss recommend Govibe Minibox AMP for such IEM, I haven really auditioned it for long using that AMP though.
Either way it's all up to you, you'll have to audition them both if you plan to buy.
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Beyerdynamic XP2 is just amazing! give a big thumb up for Beyerdynamic which come out with such a good earphone!
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Yes, If you using a double flange ear tips the sound will be a big different. Everyone should try to use it with your Beyer XP earphone. or you could try the Hippo foam tips.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 10 2012, 05:19 PM)
I myself is using Hippo Cri Cri+, suit my taste as the mid is much forward, not too sure about Govibe Martini but SLCG boss recommend Govibe Minibox AMP for such IEM, I haven really auditioned it for long using that AMP though.
Either way it's all up to you, you'll have to audition them both if you plan to buy.
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Okay ! Btw whats the difference between hippo cricri and hippo cricri+?
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QUOTE(beh0211 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:17 PM)
Okay ! Btw whats the difference between hippo cricri and hippo cricri+?
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Hippo CriCri only up to 16/44(48?) while Hippo Cri Cri+ up to 24/96.
If you on the budget then Cri Cri is enough, CriCri+ can delivery better detail for those seeking higher quality in their audio listening.
Hippo does has some features that CriCri+ does not, such as the Gain switch and Bass switch.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 11 2012, 07:48 AM)
Hippo CriCri only up to 16/44(48?) while Hippo Cri Cri+ up to 24/96.
If you on the budget then Cri Cri is enough, CriCri+ can delivery better detail for those seeking higher quality in their audio listening.
Hippo does has some features that CriCri+ does not, such as the Gain switch and Bass switch.
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CriCri is only an amp while CriCri+ is an amp+DAC.
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Oct 11 2012, 08:22 AM)
CriCri is only an amp while CriCri+ is an amp+DAC.
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I have yet to try Govibe Martini+, but I feels the output might be too high for IEM.
You can also try Govibe Minibox, great little AMP for IEM.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 11 2012, 11:08 AM)
Oh darn, sorry for the mistake. I thought it has the USB in (That's charging unit) sweat.gif
I have yet to try Govibe Martini+, but I feels the output might be too high for IEM.
You can also try Govibe Minibox, great little AMP for IEM.
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The Martini+ is awesome. biggrin.gif Currently using the Govibe MBA MK2 with my PFE022 and KSC75. It's a very super portable amp, but then, you'll appreciate a more powerful amp even though it's only PFE022.
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QUOTE(Iqbal_kakashi @ Oct 11 2012, 12:29 PM)
The Martini+ is awesome. biggrin.gif Currently using the Govibe MBA MK2 with my PFE022 and KSC75. It's a very super portable amp, but then, you'll appreciate a more powerful amp even though it's only PFE022.
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MBA MK2 is a clear, detailed amp
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tried all of XP series just now. i hate the 'crack' sound.
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tried all of XP series just now. i hate the 'crack' sound.
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QUOTE(farisq @ Oct 12 2012, 09:13 AM)
How do you compare it to other IEM?
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previously im using ATH-CKM55

i dunno how to say. non all of XP series can suits me well. or maybe my player/ear quite choosy.
haha.. finally i bought Fischer Audio - Consonance near to my previous IEM.. both is special for me.. no need to burn-in hundred hours to perform.. 0 hours only i can feel so fun.. really love its soundstage/detail and booming sound. it also shines with electronic music. i like dubstep cool.gif
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QUOTE(aloy5415 @ Oct 12 2012, 11:57 AM)
previously im using ATH-CKM55

i dunno how to say. non all of XP series can suits me well. or maybe my player/ear quite choosy.
haha.. finally i bought Fischer Audio - Consonance near to my previous IEM.. both is special for me.. no need to burn-in hundred hours to perform.. 0 hours only i can feel so fun.. really love its soundstage/detail and booming sound. it also shines with electronic music. i like dubstep  cool.gif
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Wow that is also in my wishlist for quite some time. Only that the price is out of my range. Does it have forward sound?
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CKM55 has the laid back of treble and bass, with excessive mid forward presentation, overall is has unique signature.

While XP series mostly focus on balance and linear effect, with aggressive and fast speed in overall presentation.
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Oct 12 2012, 12:51 PM)
CKM55 has the laid back of treble and bass, with excessive mid forward presentation, overall is has unique signature.

While XP series mostly focus on balance and linear effect, with aggressive and fast speed in overall presentation.
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Out topic but I want to know if the CKM55 has same signature and/or quality as the older sibling CKM50?
From many review the CKM55 seems to have degraded in terms of quality from CKM50.
Was looking for the CKM50 but the housing might not suits me, same construction as XP series, bad for my ear on long-hour listening. sad.gif

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So I just order from him?
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Order from him better or from the Wowstore?
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Order from him better or from the Wowstore?
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The Jaben website says it is out of stock
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try again by contacting them, or neosh of jaben penang
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My XP3's right driver seems like having problem now, left side is louder then right side. sad.gif

Edit: Confirmed after my friend tested it, driver is having imbalance output.

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Tried the xp series 2 days ago and among all those three I'd say I prefer the XP2 instead! The mids are so good to my ears with that price range wub.gif
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Can i know what can the govibe minibox improves on xp3?
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Hey guys, how does the sound quality of the beyerdynamic xp3 compare with the klipsch s3 or s4?

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QUOTE(Hitman66 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:14 PM)
Tried the xp series 2 days ago and among all those three I'd say I prefer the XP2 instead! The mids are so good to my ears with that price range wub.gif
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Yeah, somehow after I auditioned the burn-in XP2, I was slightly regret that I bought XP3... *sigh* oh well~
At least XP3 has good presentation on the instruments sounds stage.
Going to burn-in more to see what will it become. wink.gif

Add: Found another way to wear comfortably for long hours for this huge housing.
Solution is wear it over-ear, yes there's no mistake here, over-ear, it's even easier to wear over those normal over-ear type.
How? While normally the wire is straight down, now you turn it ~120 degree to the front, then put the wire over-ear, that's it.
The huge housing will face down instead of up, better insertion for those with small ear (like me blush.gif ) especially wearing the double-flange.
Now, it's even better at handling the annoying microphonics problem, minimize it even further, now I can wear it up to 3 hours and still no pain around the ears.

As requested by Walabies boss~ wink.gif
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Oct 13 2012, 06:16 PM)
My XP3's right driver seems like having problem now, left side is louder then right side. sad.gif

Edit: Confirmed after my friend tested it, driver is having imbalance output.
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Nvm, you can send back to us for RMA.

QUOTE(beh0211 @ Oct 13 2012, 10:21 PM)
Can i know what can the govibe minibox improves on xp3?
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It improves the transparency, the extension and detail.

QUOTE(firewater476 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hey guys, how does the sound quality of the beyerdynamic xp3 compare with the klipsch s3 or s4?
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Erm, comparable I guess? The price tag is so much difference btw.

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 14 2012, 03:15 PM)
Yeah, somehow after I auditioned the burn-in XP2, I was slightly regret that I bought XP3... *sigh* oh well~
At least XP3 has good presentation on the instruments sounds stage.
Going to burn-in more to see what will it become. wink.gif

Add: Found another way to wear comfortably for long hours for this huge housing.
Solution is wear it over-ear, yes there's no mistake here, over-ear, it's even easier to wear over those normal over-ear type.
How? While normally the wire is straight down, now you turn it ~120 degree to the front, then put the wire over-ear, that's it.
The huge housing will face down instead of up, better insertion for those with small ear (like me blush.gif ) especially wearing the double-flange.
Now, it's even better at handling the annoying microphonics problem, minimize it even further, now I can wear it up to 3 hours and still no pain around the ears.

p/s: Do I need to post a picture of how it looks like over-ear?
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I think u can post it as a educational reference.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 14 2012, 03:15 PM)
Yeah, somehow after I auditioned the burn-in XP2, I was slightly regret that I bought XP3... *sigh* oh well~
At least XP3 has good presentation on the instruments sounds stage.
Going to burn-in more to see what will it become. wink.gif

Add: Found another way to wear comfortably for long hours for this huge housing.
Solution is wear it over-ear, yes there's no mistake here, over-ear, it's even easier to wear over those normal over-ear type.
How? While normally the wire is straight down, now you turn it ~120 degree to the front, then put the wire over-ear, that's it.
The huge housing will face down instead of up, better insertion for those with small ear (like me blush.gif ) especially wearing the double-flange.
Now, it's even better at handling the annoying microphonics problem, minimize it even further, now I can wear it up to 3 hours and still no pain around the ears.

As requested by Walabies boss~ wink.gif
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I tried this before biggrin.gif

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Nvm, you can send back to us for RMA.
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It's alright, currently I'm not sure if there's really an imbalance doh.gif , the difference wasn't that significant now. Will listen it throughout. Warranty still got 11 months thumbup.gif
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XP2 has more bass?
Instruments sounds stage?
Sorry for being a noob here
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Oct 15 2012, 12:01 AM)
XP2 has more bass?
Instruments sounds stage?
Sorry for being a noob here
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XP2 compared with XP3? If that's the case then probably it's a yes? I wouldn't say it has more bass but rather the focus on which part, XP3 has V shape sounding, while XP2 is much balanced so the amount of bass is slightly on the mid so you feels more bass, XP1 is exceptional case (bass all the way).
Instruments sounds stage is better at XP3, great at differentiate the instruments apart due to its detail nature, slightly analytical due to its housing sounding I guess, more "ting ting" than "ding ding". But because of this the mid sounds laid back, vocal song with lots of heavy instruments will pushes the vocal back but full instruments orchestra will definitely sound really nice. wink.gif cool.gif
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QUOTE(firewater476 @ Oct 14 2012, 02:48 PM)
Hey guys, how does the sound quality of the beyerdynamic xp3 compare with the klipsch s3 or s4?
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Comparable, Klipsch S3 has thinner and flatter on bottom end compare with XP, while Xp series is comparable/better then Klipsch S4.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 15 2012, 07:29 AM)
XP2 compared with XP3? If that's the case then probably it's a yes? I wouldn't say it has more bass but rather the focus on which part, XP3 has V shape sounding, while XP2 is much balanced so the amount of bass is slightly on the mid so you feels more bass, XP1 is exceptional case (bass all the way).
Instruments sounds stage is better at XP3, great at differentiate the instruments apart due to its detail nature, slightly analytical due to its housing sounding I guess, more "ting ting" than "ding ding". But because of this the mid sounds laid back, vocal song with lots of heavy instruments will pushes the vocal back but full instruments orchestra will definitely sound really nice. wink.gif  cool.gif
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Then I'll get the XP3 since I also listen to classical music
Thanks for the explaination nod.gif

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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Oct 14 2012, 04:11 PM)
I tried this before  biggrin.gif
It's alright, currently I'm not sure if there's really an imbalance  doh.gif , the difference wasn't that significant now. Will listen it throughout. Warranty still got 11 months  thumbup.gif
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Hmmm, maybe the driver is stiff at the beginning. How it has lossen a bit after burn in.
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Hmmm, maybe the driver is stiff at the beginning. How it has lossen a bit after burn in.
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I think is because of incorrect way of wearing eartips. Too much pressure inside, the sound will fade.
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Hey guys I have a 2 year old sennheiser CX200 which I feel like upgrading ... XP2/3 big improvement from my old earphone?
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QUOTE(SomeoneElse @ Oct 15 2012, 09:11 PM)
Hey guys I have a 2 year old sennheiser CX200 which I feel like upgrading ... XP2/3 big improvement from my old earphone?
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Still depends on your taste though, some people doesn't like the sound signature of Beyerdynamic.
You'll have to audition it yourself to find out if it's a worth while upgrade, price wise? Definitely, a value for money icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 16 2012, 07:07 AM)
Still depends on your taste though, some people doesn't like the sound signature of Beyerdynamic.
You'll have to audition it yourself to find out if it's a worth while upgrade, price wise? Definitely, a value for money icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SomeoneElse @ Oct 15 2012, 09:11 PM)
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there's definitely an improvement from CX200 to XP series, however how big is the improvement will be depend on your taste.
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just bought the xp2. very comfortable and sounds great. i also like that for its price, it comes with tons of other stuff. very happy with it.
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QUOTE(archinkent @ Oct 17 2012, 02:27 PM)
just bought the xp2. very comfortable and sounds great. i also like that for its price, it comes with tons of other stuff. very happy with it.
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influenced a fren to buy xp2, this shit is poison even for non audiophile
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they are awesome for non audiophile who wish to get an entry earphone which doesn't sound disappointing
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Do you guys use the hippo form included?
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the hippo foam gives better isolation?
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yes it provides better isolation.
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Cause Hippo foam is not included as free gift in the shop I'm going to purchase
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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Oct 18 2012, 08:10 PM)
Too bad then
Cause Hippo foam is not included as free gift in the shop I'm going to purchase
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Hi Eugene88. If you buy the XP, give me a beep. I try make an exception for you.


Added on October 18, 2012, 9:47 pmFor those who still wondering which Beyer XP to pick. Here is a general guide.

Bass cravers: XP1

Fun but not over the top bass: XP2

Balanced, but non fatiguing: XP3

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1 month after using XP3... I can say... worth every single cents that I've paid.
1st 10 hours is so so... Then burn for around 50hrs. Now, I can hear sounds that i missed before. Even 10 years old 128bit mp3 feel different.
If you're on a budget. go for it. if still not enough, save a bit, then buy this one. No need to puasa 2-3 months for student. cheers...
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QUOTE(bzz @ Oct 20 2012, 02:27 AM)
1 month after using XP3... I can say... worth every single cents that I've paid.
1st 10 hours is so so... Then burn for around 50hrs. Now, I can hear sounds that i missed before. Even 10 years old 128bit mp3 feel different.
If you're on a budget. go for it. if still not enough, save a bit, then buy this one. No need to puasa 2-3 months for student. cheers...
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any1 use them for sport? hehe
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any1 use them for sport? hehe
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I thought wala bro use that as his sport " must take " item....
Hmm....flat cable...I guess its prefer useful for sport tools .....because.of. the flat cable look.... hmmm.....
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i thought it'll be super microphonic?
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You can wear them over-ear and then pull the "cable slider" up to reduce those annoying microphonic.
And they're comfortable that way cause of the reduced weight of wearing them straight down. wink.gif
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just bought myself the xp3, love it
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I'm a non audiophile and I got XP3 too, loving it as well
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amp-ing isnt necessary right for the xp series?
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amp-ing isnt necessary right for the xp series?
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Yeah... low impedance not really need. Just an easy going IEM.
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trying to get a XP series club signature bar up, but my design sense is damn poor, anyone could help design on that? thanks a lot =D
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Has Jaben restocked the XP3? went there last week, left my name and contact.. they promised will still give me the hippo form...
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trying to get a XP series club signature bar up, but my design sense is damn poor, anyone could help design on that? thanks a lot =D
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Hi, Im currently using a cheap rm1++ dac ,i usually tune 75% of max volume for my hd668B, but for my xp3, the max volume still small , isit due to 98db low sensitivity? This issue even worst when put on Hippo foam which has longer "foam canal"...But hippo biscuit can give me sufficient volume when plug in xp3.

anybody can help solve this issue?..im newbie..thx


Added on October 30, 2012, 9:54 pm1)Im notice the sound is better when in low volume in Hippo biscuit compare to high volume. is this due to xp3 or biscuit factor?

2) for burn in, must use good dac? can use handphone? small kbps song can do?(no time download higher definition in short term)

hopefully audiophiles here can teach me...thx alot

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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM)
Hi, Im currently using a cheap rm1++ dac ,i usually tune 75% of max volume for my hd668B, but for my xp3, the max volume still small , isit due to 98db low sensitivity? This issue even worst when put on Hippo foam which has longer "foam canal"...But hippo biscuit can give me sufficient volume when plug in xp3.

anybody can help solve this issue?..im newbie..thx


Added on October 30, 2012, 9:54 pm1)Im notice the sound is better when in low volume in Hippo biscuit compare to high volume. is this due to xp3 or biscuit factor?

2) for burn in, must use good dac? can use handphone? small kbps song can do?(no time download higher definition in short term)

hopefully audiophiles here can teach me...thx alot
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Burn in u need goodsource with dac . Better Source N dac u get better playback every frequency . xp series after150 hour u can feel better image .settle down on 250 hour
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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM)
Hi, Im currently using a cheap rm1++ dac ,i usually tune 75% of max volume for my hd668B, but for my xp3, the max volume still small , isit due to 98db low sensitivity? This issue even worst when put on Hippo foam which has longer "foam canal"...But hippo biscuit can give me sufficient volume when plug in xp3.

anybody can help solve this issue?..im newbie..thx


Added on October 30, 2012, 9:54 pm1)Im notice the sound is better when in low volume in Hippo biscuit compare to high volume. is this due to xp3 or biscuit factor?

2) for burn in, must use good dac? can use handphone? small kbps song can do?(no time download higher definition in short term)

hopefully audiophiles here can teach me...thx alot
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while for 1, it might due to the source problem. (music file, kbps, recording)
while in soft volume, you might not really heard the cracking sound from earphone, but while putting in greater volume, it amplify the weakness of the source..
i do notice that a good pair of earphone with good source don`t really blast out the volume to enjoy. even with soft volume you still able to get all the things you wanna get from the music!

the plug problem either from player or earphone.
as for me i don`t really face your problem there, so it might either one is faulty?

the volume that you listen to music must be quite loud hmm.gif hmm.gif cos if i use my earphone to watch movie from pc, i normally put about 20-30% rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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Hi, anybody know which xp more close to this sound signature, im still learning


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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM)
Hi, Im currently using a cheap rm1++ dac ,i usually tune 75% of max volume for my hd668B, but for my xp3, the max volume still small , isit due to 98db low sensitivity? This issue even worst when put on Hippo foam which has longer "foam canal"...But hippo biscuit can give me sufficient volume when plug in xp3.

anybody can help solve this issue?..im newbie..thx


Added on October 30, 2012, 9:54 pm1)Im notice the sound is better when in low volume in Hippo biscuit compare to high volume. is this due to xp3 or biscuit factor?

2) for burn in, must use good dac? can use handphone? small kbps song can do?(no time download higher definition in short term)

hopefully audiophiles here can teach me...thx alot
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Yea, low sensitivity offer you to tune out more volume compare with higher sensitivity, as the lower sens able to provide you less hiss and hump if you plug into bad source.

1) May i know how low or high? what is the mean of sound is better, is it when you on lounder, there is huge cracking or hissing sound? it might happen due to your music file source problem.

2) Any song and source will do =).
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QUOTE(ego draconis @ Oct 30 2012, 09:42 PM)
Hi, Im currently using a cheap rm1++ dac ,i usually tune 75% of max volume for my hd668B, but for my xp3, the max volume still small , isit due to 98db low sensitivity? This issue even worst when put on Hippo foam which has longer "foam canal"...But hippo biscuit can give me sufficient volume when plug in xp3.

anybody can help solve this issue?..im newbie..thx


Added on October 30, 2012, 9:54 pm1)Im notice the sound is better when in low volume in Hippo biscuit compare to high volume. is this due to xp3 or biscuit factor?

2) for burn in, must use good dac? can use handphone? small kbps song can do?(no time download higher definition in short term)

hopefully audiophiles here can teach me...thx alot
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For the first question. The problem lies in your music file that you use. As good IEM is able to pick up details, the bad recordings with cracks and shrieks are picked up.
It is not necessary to use good DAC or songs to burn in. But no cracking is preferable.
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I also heard a dot dot dot noise when the music ends but the file is still playing at almost all my songs (320kpbs or lower MP3, M4A)
So an amplifier is basically increasing the volume and some tones?
Then what is the difference between a cheapo amplifier and an expensive one?
XP3+Hippo Foam+Amplifier = Best sound heard for a non audiophile like me rclxm9.gif

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An amplifier should do the job of "increase volume level" (technically yes there are), and the most important part will be enhance sound quality.

If your source is good, they will enhance the good part and make them even more amazing.

If your source is bad, you will know what will they do...
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I'm using my phone only and some equalizers, do I have to get something like the Hippo Biscuit?
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depend on which phone and what music file source you are getting.

Hippo Biscuit is an audiophile player, if you really into great music portable music player, that is a good choice.
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I'm using a Nokia N8 and most of my songs are 320kpbs or M4A
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Tip of the day.
If you are using an amplifier, please do not on your equalizer or else it will distort the original music that you suppose to hear.
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Tip of the day.
If you are using an amplifier, please do not on your equalizer or else it will distort the original music that you suppose to hear.
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+1 Definitely!! Try not to add EQ as it drives away the original intention of the music/song itself. nod.gif
Nokia N8, not sure about the SQ of the DAC but you can try to compare against Hippo Biscuit at Jaben. wink.gif
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I use equalizer to get more bass but disable it when listening to classical music
Thanks for the tip! notworthy.gif
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If you are using an amplifier, please do not on your equalizer or else it will distort the original music that you suppose to hear.
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I cant use equalizer cuz my DAC bypass windows volume control laugh.gif
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I cant use equalizer cuz my DAC bypass windows volume control laugh.gif
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Oh~~ you can, Foobar can do EQ as well, and bypassing windows volume control, but I don't use EQ myself.
Unless you're talking about those EQ provided by those Realtek? Or Windows built-in so called "enhance" (bass boost, loud, etc.).
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Got my XP1 this evening , grab silver instead of black . black out of stock doh.gif

loving the bass XD rclxm9.gif

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there are massive demand over head-fi.org as well, people in asia region is helping those outside of asia to purchase.

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Hi , my right earphone have 'scritt' sound . Is this normal ?
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This iem is a great hit.....

So ...this product is so in demand for the audio lover....

Need to go jaben again to grab one of these can but....I still got many thing in my want to buy list yet...
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Hi , my right earphone have 'scritt' sound . Is this normal ?
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Try:
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2. change the device of listening
3. change songs
4. check is the any blockage in the nozzle
5. change side listen

see if it still exist.
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Hi , my right earphone have 'scritt' sound . Is this normal ?
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Sometime IEM users can hear a background electrical noise from their source when the volume is low; it is know as 'hissing'. Most IEMs are very sensitive therefore it is easy for them to pick up electrical noise that generally other headphones would ignore. There is no actual fix for this issue, but sometime adding an in-line resistor (to increase the impedance and lowering the sensitivity) seems to work. Also, certain sources (such as one type of HDD based iPod) are known to produce more electrical noise.

Sometime, IEMs with highlighted 1KHz ~ 10kHz region in sound frequency are also referred to as being 'sibilant' or 'harsh'. The problem is, these kinds of IEMs produce very sharp sounding treble that can often be very irritating and uncomfortable during long term listening. This kind of sound is most commonly noticed in female vocal presentation. Due to the fact that everybody has a different hearing freq. resp., some IEMs will sound sibilant to some while completely fine to others. There is no real fix for this issue; however, EQing is perhaps one of the most effective solution, followed by modification of the IEM itself (mostly of the filter and nozzle).
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Sony MH1 compare to this XP series? How, SQ
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Sony MH1 compare to this XP series? How, SQ
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No comment on that, as i havent try the Sony MH1 before, but reading some users comment on that, still pretty much balance between negative and positive comments from user.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 8 2012, 08:14 AM)
Oh~~ you can, Foobar can do EQ as well, and bypassing windows volume control, but I don't use EQ myself.
Unless you're talking about those EQ provided by those Realtek? Or Windows built-in so called "enhance" (bass boost, loud, etc.).
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on that Realtek EQ, which one you use? Or you also don't set to any? Coz when i set to non, it's kinda dark. Vocal goes too deep. Currently setting it to rock with a slight adjustment on treble to bright up the vocal and treble. Not using any dac+amp, btw. The source comes directly from the laptop.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 8 2012, 08:14 AM)
Oh~~ you can, Foobar can do EQ as well, and bypassing windows volume control, but I don't use EQ myself.
Unless you're talking about those EQ provided by those Realtek? Or Windows built-in so called "enhance" (bass boost, loud, etc.).
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QUOTE(screwedpeep @ Nov 11 2012, 04:18 PM)
on that Realtek EQ, which one you use? Or you also don't set to any? Coz when i set to non, it's kinda dark. Vocal goes too deep. Currently setting it to rock with a slight adjustment on treble to bright up the vocal and treble. Not using any dac+amp, btw. The source comes directly from the laptop.
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Directly... from... laptop... eww... shakehead.gif
You should get yourself a Hippo CriCri+ or for a starter the Acoustic UD100 (sold here in garage sales), these are recommended DAC for ultimate listening, those SQ produced by those cheap Realtek chips + electrical interference is not good for your IEM. nod.gif

QUOTE(sslim3883 @ Nov 11 2012, 05:53 PM)
Your XP3 is Poison , Wait i free  i continue the burn in for xp
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brows.gif XP3 after 600 hours, cable burn-in as well. rclxm9.gif
Now this XP3 is my daily IEM companion.

Next stop probably save up for EPH-100, this one even more poisonous, like Taipan. sweat.gif
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Hi, just one question from me. I'm enjoying more on rock, punk, and guitar-driven song so which beyer xp should suit me the most?
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Hi, just one question from me. I'm enjoying more on rock, punk, and guitar-driven song so which beyer xp should suit me the most?
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You want focus on the vocal or the instruments? If you just need the volume on the instruments then XP3 (V shape), if you focus on all aspect then XP2 (balanced), or if you want those head-shaking-full-range-bass then XP1 (full bass; low to mid bass).
Still unsure? Then you had better take your own source (DAP, Laptop??, DAC, etc.) then test it at Jaben or any Retail (Jaben partners) and pick your choice.
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The price for one amplifier is already so expensive..
And the hippo biscuit can only play MP3 and WAV with no screen to select songs sweat.gif
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The price for one amplifier is already so expensive..
And the hippo biscuit can only play MP3 and WAV with no screen to select songs sweat.gif
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There're few cheaper AMP out there, FiiO E6, E3, Govibe Minibox, Hippo Pipe Mini, etc?
Hippo built has always not amazing but the SQ is killing, just like the Hippo CriCri+, I was like WTH? So simple but the SQ is poisoning.
Anyway for those whom want AMP for their XP series, Govibe Minibox is recommended, though I have yet to really audition the combination, need to schedule my visit to audition more.... and more... cool.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 12 2012, 04:26 PM)
There're few cheaper AMP out there, FiiO E6, E3, Govibe Minibox, Hippo Pipe Mini, etc?
Hippo built has always not amazing but the SQ is killing, just like the Hippo CriCri+, I was like WTH? So simple but the SQ is poisoning.
Anyway for those whom want AMP for their XP series, Govibe Minibox is recommended, though I have yet to really audition the combination, need to schedule my visit to audition more.... and more...  cool.gif
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i was skeptical about how the cricri+ will pair with beyerbynamic house sound, turns out after a while of listening, i find it quite synergized with cricir+ so i will recommend it too
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Directly... from... laptop... eww...  shakehead.gif
You should get yourself a Hippo CriCri+ or for a starter the Acoustic UD100 (sold here in garage sales), these are recommended DAC for ultimate listening, those SQ produced by those cheap Realtek chips + electrical interference is not good for your IEM. nod.gif
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i searched for Acoustic UD100 but didnt find any at garage sale. sweat.gif

thanks bro. Will consider that. I actually was eyeing dr150+vero150+cricri+ bundle from jaben but then i found someone selling dr150 at a cheaper price. so i ended buying it without cricri+ and vero150. to buy all these three combo separately seems shocking.gif but seriously i'm not satisfied with the sound of my laptop. even the speaker sound also doh.gif so might still end up with cricri+ very very soon. blush.gif
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QUOTE(screwedpeep @ Nov 12 2012, 07:08 PM)
i searched for Acoustic UD100 but didnt find any at garage salesweat.gif

thanks bro. Will consider that. I actually was eyeing dr150+vero150+cricri+ bundle from jaben but then i found someone selling dr150 at a cheaper price. so i ended buying it without cricri+ and vero150. to buy all these three combo separately seems  shocking.gif but seriously i'm not satisfied with the sound of my laptop. even the speaker sound also  doh.gif so might still end up with cricri+ very very soon.  blush.gif
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2452730

There are some info about it
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QUOTE(zandara @ Nov 12 2012, 07:14 PM)
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2452730

There are some info about it
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thanks boss. Very helpful. smile.gif
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I might getting one of these soon.. how I wish I could have a chance to audition each one, still not sure which to pick as based only some reviews sad.gif
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juz received xp3 yesterday.. how do u guys burn in the iem?

btw, thanks to walabies for make the xp3 deal.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(hanaxxaru @ Nov 16 2012, 12:14 AM)
juz received xp3 yesterday.. how do u guys burn in the iem?

btw, thanks to walabies for make the xp3 deal.. smile.gif
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For XP3 I started with pink, static, white noise for couple of hours, that immediately remove the muddy sounding from 0-hour.
Next I got suggestion to burn-in using great movie OST such as few from John Williams.
After 200 hours I started to hunt for Vocal centric song, some bass-head, and different other genre, but focus on vocal more.
After 600 hours, well.. I think that's enough, good for everyday use already. blush.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 16 2012, 08:07 AM)
For XP3 I started with pink, static, white noise for couple of hours, that immediately remove the muddy sounding from 0-hour.
Next I got suggestion to burn-in using great movie OST such as few from John Williams.
After 200 hours I started to hunt for Vocal centric song, some bass-head, and different other genre, but focus on vocal more.
After 600 hours, well.. I think that's enough, good for everyday use already. blush.gif
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wow.. there's a lot of hours.. haha.. thanks for your suggestion.. appreciate it.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(azyune @ Nov 15 2012, 11:12 PM)
nice iem.  thumbup.gif

I might getting one of these soon.. how I wish I could have a chance to audition each one, still not sure which to pick as based only some reviews sad.gif
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ahah, all of them are great, depend on which you like the most.
If you going for bass, XP1 will be my recommendation, if you prefer balance and dynamic, go for XP2 =)
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Nov 16 2012, 05:20 PM)
ahah, all of them are great, depend on which you like the most.
If you going for bass, XP1 will be my recommendation, if you prefer balance and dynamic, go for XP2 =)
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Nov 16 2012, 05:20 PM)
ahah, all of them are great, depend on which you like the most.
If you going for bass, XP1 will be my recommendation, if you prefer balance and dynamic, go for XP2 =)
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I always love bases but not a fan of techno or similars. As far as I understand the bass amount is same for all 3 models. The different is the mid-high part.

So I guess I'll play safe and take the best of both world. hmm.gif

QUOTE(noobandroid @ Nov 16 2012, 05:43 PM)
still trying to shake off my xp1, but apparently not very "selling" sad.gif
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err.. your review on xp1 is one of the reason that made me reconsider. I was about to aim for xp1 initially.
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actually all of them bass are different.

XP1 will be the strongest without a doubt, personally i prefer 2 and 3 =)
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I like XP2 overally but when it comes to classical music XP3 is better
So I choose XP3 in the end..
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XP2 will suit well in pop or even rock songs ...jazz like vocal jazz , XP3 will perform better...
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XP2 will suit well in pop or even rock songs ...jazz like vocal jazz , XP3 will perform better...
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XP2 is better for vocals imo. The XP3 is described to have a 'V' shaped sound signature. This means recessed mids and boosted trebles and bass. The XP2 is more fun and dynamic comparing it to the XP3 by all means. You might want to refer to midwestgoh's posts on the 600 hour burn-ed in XP3 of his. laugh.gif

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Oct 15 2012, 07:29 AM)
XP2 compared with XP3? If that's the case then probably it's a yes? I wouldn't say it has more bass but rather the focus on which part, XP3 has V shape sounding, while XP2 is much balanced so the amount of bass is slightly on the mid so you feels more bass, XP1 is exceptional case (bass all the way).
Instruments sounds stage is better at XP3, great at differentiate the instruments apart due to its detail nature, slightly analytical due to its housing sounding I guess, more "ting ting" than "ding ding". But because of this the mid sounds laid back, vocal song with lots of heavy instruments will pushes the vocal back but full instruments orchestra will definitely sound really nice. wink.gif  cool.gif
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Yeah, somehow after I auditioned the burn-in XP2, I was slightly regret that I bought XP3... *sigh* oh well~
At least XP3 has good presentation on the instruments sounds stage.
Going to burn-in more to see what will it become. wink.gif

Add: Found another way to wear comfortably for long hours for this huge housing.
Solution is wear it over-ear, yes there's no mistake here, over-ear, it's even easier to wear over those normal over-ear type.
How? While normally the wire is straight down, now you turn it ~120 degree to the front, then put the wire over-ear, that's it.
The huge housing will face down instead of up, better insertion for those with small ear (like me blush.gif ) especially wearing the double-flange.
Now, it's even better at handling the annoying microphonics problem, minimize it even further, now I can wear it up to 3 hours and still no pain around the ears.

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XP3 might sound slightly flatter, it is more concentrated sound
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my xp3 earbud really not comfortable (tried all sizes).. recommend me a solution, please? will 3rd party ones eg hippo foam help?
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QUOTE(shimon @ Nov 21 2012, 11:31 AM)
my xp3 earbud really not comfortable (tried all sizes).. recommend me a solution, please? will 3rd party ones eg hippo foam help?
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Have you tried wear it over-ear?
Hippo foam is recommended by few but not sure if that will help solve your uncomfortable issue, especially if your ear is small like mine, I have tried many methods and settled with over-ear while need to adjust the insertion slightly.
Btw I'm using the double-flange ear-tips.
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my xp3 earbud really not comfortable (tried all sizes).. recommend me a solution, please? will 3rd party ones eg hippo foam help?
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Yes you can try comply foam without problem, technically it is more comfortable compare with rubber sleeve.
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 21 2012, 04:54 PM)
Have you tried wear it over-ear?
Hippo foam is recommended by few but not sure if that will help solve your uncomfortable issue, especially if your ear is small like mine, I have tried many methods and settled with over-ear while need to adjust the insertion slightly.
Btw I'm using the double-flange ear-tips.
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tried wearing it over ear... but i guess because i'm wearing glasses, it becomes abit awkward sweat.gif

QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Nov 21 2012, 04:58 PM)
Yes you can try comply foam without problem, technically it is more comfortable compare with rubber sleeve.
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any chance where i can buy only 1 pair for testing? afraid if buy 1 set also din fit... hmm
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Hi unfortunately my hippo shroom died on me sigh. Xp3 caught my attention! But how does this earphone sound compared to the shroom and etymotic hf5? Interested to hear some opinions hehe. Will the hf5 sound colder than xp3?
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tried wearing it over ear... but i guess because i'm wearing glasses, it becomes abit awkward  sweat.gif
any chance where i can buy only 1 pair for testing? afraid if buy 1 set also din fit... hmm
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LOL.. I'm also a spec guy so yeah, it's slight awkward but you'll get use to it.
Trying is.. erm, I'm not too sure about this, but SLCG did want to give me a try but I bit reluctant due to my ear wax, lol... anyway now I'm all good with double-flange, it keeps a distance of the housing from my ear so it's all good.
The housing finish is not the rounded one so it can be quite hurt when wear it for very long.
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QUOTE(nicholostan @ Nov 17 2012, 01:50 AM)
XP2 will suit well in pop or even rock songs ...jazz like vocal jazz , XP3 will perform better...
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Nov 17 2012, 03:11 AM)
XP2 is better for vocals imo. The XP3 is described to have a 'V' shaped sound signature. This means recessed mids and boosted trebles and bass. The XP2 is more fun and dynamic comparing it to the XP3 by all means. You might want to refer to midwestgoh's posts on the 600 hour burn-ed in XP3 of his.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Nov 18 2012, 03:40 PM)
XP3 might sound slightly flatter, it is more concentrated sound
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alright.. which is which horr. each one opinion contradict to each other rclxub.gif

ok I like pop and metal songs, I always set my equalizer to V-shape so....XP2 or XP3 hmm.gif sweat.gif

**btw what is dynamic sound meaning? I dont get the term. And how these two model translate in EQ graph?
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QUOTE(azyune @ Nov 22 2012, 08:49 PM)
alright.. which is which horr. each one opinion contradict to each other  rclxub.gif

ok I like pop and metal songs, I always set my equalizer to V-shape so....XP2 or XP3  hmm.gif  sweat.gif

**btw what is dynamic sound meaning? I dont get the term. And how these two model translate in EQ graph?
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Erm, well different people has different opinion, but XP3 is definitely V shape, but after 600-hour of vocal burn-in it seems to have flatten out.. LOL (IMO), I have not really compared with XP2 with equivalent burn-in hour yet so I can't yet gives thorough comparison.
But according to reviews, and my experience, XP3 is V, XP2 is flat, means flat la... whistling.gif , that's the EQ representation, if you like different genre of song/music then XP2 but might need to tweak the EQ to your liking, XP3 might suits you without the EQ according to your EQ tweaks/taste.
All downs to your own ear, you have to audition them to find out which is really suits you, and bring your own source, DAP, DAC, AMP and compare them yourself.
Good luck finding one.
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QUOTE(azyune @ Nov 16 2012, 07:15 PM)
I always love bases but not a fan of techno or similars. As far as I understand the bass amount is same for all 3 models. The different is the mid-high part.

So I guess I'll play safe and take the best of both world.  hmm.gif
err.. your review on xp1 is one of the reason that made me reconsider. I was about to aim for xp1 initially.
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What review is this? smile.gif I have XP1, using with my 3GS and laptop for portable usage. I aimed for XP1, went Jaben tried XP2, wanted XP2 but no more stock so took the last black XP1 biggrin.gif now using with Hippo Foam. The foam gives a real good seal.

I think I still prefer XP2, sometimes the bass just pounds my ears but still enjoy the XP1. Better than my old Sony earbuds plus it has the anti-tangle cable. I already have a pair of fully broken in Grado SR80i if I want more detail smile.gif Using lossless or higher bitrate mp3s with both my Beyerdynamic and Grado.
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It is something like, in the first impression, xp2 will sounds flatter, more bass... xp3 has a slight v shape, more details. I would categorize xp3 is for more patient people as they require more burn in time.

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 16 2012, 08:07 AM)
For XP3 I started with pink, static, white noise for couple of hours, that immediately remove the muddy sounding from 0-hour.
Next I got suggestion to burn-in using great movie OST such as few from John Williams.
After 200 hours I started to hunt for Vocal centric song, some bass-head, and different other genre, but focus on vocal more.
After 600 hours, well.. I think that's enough, good for everyday use already. blush.gif
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hanz jimmer sound track no bad too but beware of the low freq
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It is something like, in the first impression, xp2 will sounds flatter, more bass... xp3 has a slight v shape, more details. I would categorize xp3 is for more patient people as they require more burn in time.
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What about XP1? Is XP1 comparable to Hippo White and Hippo VB?
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Just received my XP3 last night! TS, please add me in user list for XP3 please. smile.gif
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 22 2012, 07:47 AM)
LOL.. I'm also a spec guy so yeah, it's slight awkward but you'll get use to it.
Trying is.. erm, I'm not too sure about this, but SLCG did want to give me a try but I bit reluctant due to my ear wax, lol... anyway now I'm all good with double-flange, it keeps a distance of the housing from my ear so it's all good.
The housing finish is not the rounded one so it can be quite hurt when wear it for very long.
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i guess i'll get used to it with time... but really, i think my two ears are not the same size, lol
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Hi everyone,
I would like to ask do you guys do "burn-in" for your XP3? I have read some articles online supporting "burn-in" while others don't. Anyone willing to guide me here? If yes, what tracks are being used to "burn-in"? Pink noise or just normal tracks that you listen everyday? smile.gif
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QUOTE(ziafang @ Nov 25 2012, 07:43 PM)
Hi everyone,
I would like to ask do you guys do "burn-in" for your XP3? I have read some articles online supporting "burn-in" while others don't. Anyone willing to guide me here? If yes, what tracks are being used to "burn-in"? Pink noise or just normal tracks that you listen everyday? smile.gif
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just do regular listening and you are good to go, listen more often to learn the sound of the IEM
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Nov 25 2012, 09:08 PM)
just do regular listening and you are good to go, listen more often to learn the sound of the IEM
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Nov 24 2012, 02:12 PM)
What about XP1? Is XP1 comparable to Hippo White and Hippo VB?
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XP1 vs Hippo white yes it is better, in terms of bass.

XP1 vs VB, VB is better...
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my xp3 earbud really not comfortable (tried all sizes).. recommend me a solution, please? will 3rd party ones eg hippo foam help?
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Try not to stick in it in your ears too deeply. To get a good fit, just put it in and adjust the pressure until it feels right. When it's too deep, it creates much pressure. You know if you're sticking in too deep when your world goes a little too 'silent' I guess. It kind of mutes the sound with the pressure in your ear canal. So, adjust the span of reach to get the right fit. If it still wouldn't work, get the hippo foam. It's comfortable, and with a great seal too. icon_rolleyes.gif

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anyone here want the xp3? just used it for a week.
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I get the feeling XP1 is so underrated.. ohwai sad.gif

walabies, so I guessed XP3 is always the fastest one got out of stock, no? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azyune @ Nov 27 2012, 08:04 PM)
I get the feeling XP1 is so underrated.. ohwai  sad.gif

walabies, so I guessed XP3 is always the fastest one got out of stock, no?  biggrin.gif
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Be frank all of them are good actually, just that which one you like more.
If bass is your cup of tea, XP1 will be your baby, if you prefer more on detail, XP3 can be a greater choice.
Everything is about personal preference.
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QUOTE(Vincy8925 @ Nov 25 2012, 10:29 PM)
Try not to stick in it in your ears too deeply. To get a good fit, just put it in and adjust the pressure until it feels right. When it's too deep, it creates much pressure. You know if you're sticking in too deep when your world goes a little too 'silent' I guess. It kind of mutes the sound with the pressure in your ear canal. So, adjust the span of reach to get the right fit. If it still wouldn't work, get the hippo foam. It's comfortable, and  with a great seal too. icon_rolleyes.gif
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thanks for the tips. i think i will get the hippo foam sooner or later... i feel bad that i rarely use such a great sounding IEM because of this issue sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(azyune @ Nov 27 2012, 08:04 PM)
I get the feeling XP1 is so underrated.. ohwai  sad.gif

walabies, so I guessed XP3 is always the fastest one got out of stock, no?  biggrin.gif
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Yeah, xp3 finishes fastest.
The reason is that in this sub RM200 region, people love to listen to more audiophile music, some has more details to be dug.
XP1 is a fun IEM, I can listen for it with the intention of entertaining myself.
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i believe it is the sleeve sucks-ion effect, so the deeper you push in, it sounded more imbalance.


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how does this compare with senn cx215 series ?
I'm abit annoyed with the tangling with the cx215... flat cable type should solve my problem tongue.gif

listen vocal, ambient stuff mostly.
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QUOTE(walabies @ Nov 28 2012, 07:47 PM)
Yeah, xp3 finishes fastest.
The reason is that in this sub RM200 region, people love to listen to more audiophile music, some has more details to be dug.
XP1 is a fun IEM, I can listen for it with the intention of entertaining myself.
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How much XP1 bass amount compare to beats solo/tour?
Does XP1 lose quite noticeable details compared to the other two models?

I've been thinking since this XP series emphasize on bass strength, why not go all out with XP1. biggrin.gif If want details I might opt for something else that good in that aspect. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Dec 1 2012, 01:14 AM)
how does this compare with senn cx215 series ?
I'm abit annoyed with the tangling with the cx215... flat cable type should solve my problem tongue.gif

listen vocal, ambient stuff mostly.
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You might have the solution.

QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 1 2012, 09:19 PM)
How much XP1 bass amount compare to beats solo/tour?
Does XP1 lose quite noticeable details compared to the other two models?

I've been thinking since this XP series emphasize on bass strength, why not go all out with XP1.  biggrin.gif If want details I might opt for something else that good in that aspect.  hmm.gif
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XP1 bass is different from the beats one. Beats bass are rather uncontrolled, dispersed while xp1 focus more on mid bass but still tight.
Quantity wise to be frank beats wins all out but their frequency are all tainted with bass.
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XP1 bass is different from the beats one. Beats bass are rather uncontrolled, dispersed while xp1 focus more on mid bass but still tight.
Quantity wise to be frank beats wins all out but their frequency are all tainted with bass.
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In the midst of planning to buy XP3


Added on December 3, 2012, 10:59 pmanyone wanna sell their xp2 and xp3 can contact me ya, i buy one of each

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You might have the solution.
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got a xp3 from slgc something @ kuching. Tangle problem solve, but the thud sound from cable quite annoying. smile.gif

review from a audio noob.

gear: foobar, realtek hd chip, fiio11. All EQ/ enhancement disable on sound card and foobar. Fiio11 on volume on 3.5, low gain, eq gain 0.

0 hour direct out from box.
first impression = feel conned, 200 for a piece of crap. shakehead.gif
treble, ear piercing and harsh doh.gif
bass muddy, overpowered vocal, just like those pasar malam rm 10 beat tour shakehead.gif
vocal ? somewhat laid back/ recessed.


after 2 hour pink burnin using app on my hp + another additional 22 hours of normal use.
Treble sounds good.
bass, getting much solid.
vocal, still get overshadowed by bass easily, required slight tuning of foobar eq to get it forward. (220hz until 622hz)
Instrument details very good, can hear load of unheard before instrument sound.
final thought ?
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QUOTE(nicotine @ Dec 4 2012, 02:08 AM)
got a xp3 from slgc something @ kuching.  Tangle problem solve, but the thud sound from cable quite annoying. smile.gif

review from a audio noob.

gear:  foobar, realtek hd chip, fiio11. All EQ/ enhancement disable on sound card and foobar. Fiio11 on volume on 3.5, low gain, eq gain 0.

0 hour direct out from box.
first impression = feel conned, 200 for a piece of crap.  shakehead.gif 
treble, ear piercing and harsh  doh.gif
bass muddy, overpowered vocal, just like those pasar malam rm 10 beat tour  shakehead.gif
vocal ? somewhat laid back/ recessed.
after 2 hour pink burnin using app on my hp + another additional 22 hours of normal use.
Treble sounds good.
bass, getting much solid.
vocal, still get overshadowed by bass easily, required slight tuning of foobar eq to get it forward.  (220hz until 622hz)
Instrument details very good, can hear load of unheard before instrument sound.
final thought ?
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Try to slide the cable slider few notch higher to minimize the microphonic, or wear it over-ear like what I do and it reduce the micrphonic even further and it'll stay much comfortable on the ear.
As for the mid, if you really wants it to forward, burn-in with more vocal centric song, you can ask SLCG taukeh to give you more advice on that.
Mine over 600-hour and the frequency band are now almost flat with the mid slightly forward than first 200-hour, still can be over-powered by heavy instruments but not that obvious compared to 200-hour.
Good luck with it.

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In the midst of planning to buy XP3


Added on December 3, 2012, 10:59 pmanyone wanna sell their xp2 and xp3 can contact me ya, i buy one of each
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Anyway I wanted XP2 but whenever I decided to put order, my curiosity always strikes me in last minutes.. wondering how much XP1 able to pound my ear with its bass compared to XP2. I realized Im actually enjoy looking for those long thunder sound and super low humming noises effect whenever i listen to any song. But then again I scare it would give me too much till it put off entire song experience, while XP2 might give it just nice amount of that.. this is quite a decision to make.. and has been dragging for too long already as I dont want regret and end up like you later on lol laugh.gif
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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 4 2012, 01:05 PM)
What will happen to your XP1?
Anyway I wanted XP2 but whenever I decided to put order, my curiosity always strikes me in last minutes.. wondering how much XP1 able to pound my ear with its bass compared to XP2. I realized Im actually enjoy looking for those long thunder sound and super low humming noises effect whenever i listen to any song. But then again I scare it would give me too much till it put off entire song experience, while XP2 might give it just nice amount of that.. this is quite a decision to make.. and has been dragging for too long already as I dont want regret and end up like you later on lol  laugh.gif
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Anyone did a comparison between xp3 and sony xba1?

I have an xba1 right now, it is worth changing to xp3?

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i bought xp3 new sone d, now waiting for money for another xp2, then i can compare all 3
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I have an xba1 right now, it is worth changing to xp3?

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wah..want collect full set that's nice. no more dilemma choosing what. later can open audition service already  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(toytoy @ Dec 4 2012, 05:45 PM)
Anyone did a comparison between xp3 and sony xba1?

I have an xba1 right now, it is worth changing to xp3?

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If you prefer sound like XBA-1 then this series might not suits you, XBA-1 is very neutral, sounded flat, very little bass and very recessed.
XP series draw them all out, XP2 being balanced but the bass is still a lot compared to XBA-1.
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I find xba-1 soundstage not very wide and treble and bass not enough.

I listen to vocals alot, somehow the voices are not 'open' enough.

I m thinking if xp3 will be better in this sense?
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I find xba-1 soundstage not very wide and treble and bass not enough.

I listen to vocals alot, somehow the voices are not 'open' enough.

I m thinking if xp3 will be better in this sense?
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Take XP2, much flat sounding and the mid will not as laid back as XP3, XP3 is detail, clear.
XP3 is great for instruments, if heavy instruments present in the song, you'll feels the instruments will over-power the vocal.
Soundstage wise, all are about the same IMO, you can however use the double-flange to increase the soundstage slightly (further away from ear), but the depth are still about the same XBA-1. Some said XBA-1 has better soundstage. Well, you just need to audition them yourself to find out, different ear different preference make the difference in words. wink.gif
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Just stick to your XBA 1. It's an all-rounder for a single balanced armature.  sweat.gif
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okok i will try out first, thanks all for your replies biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(toytoy @ Dec 4 2012, 05:45 PM)
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I have an xba1 right now, it is worth changing to xp3?

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If you are looking for bass improvement xp3 has more ohmp.

xba1 focuses more on the details.
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just got my XP3 from jaben at KLCC Pikom PC fair today..
cost only RM180 now...
it is a real deal and the sound quality compared to feels pro 900 and XBA-1 is much more superior (from my point of view)..
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out of the box preview

the sound is all over the place, bass is weak, no wonder they say this needs serious burn in, i will think so and agree, it cant be that this IEM sounds this bad

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2nd day look out

bass has regrouped, mid still needs some training, treble also, soundstage sounds less narrow
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My xp3 ended inside drawer after those long hours of burning in. No device to pair it with.
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Dec 8 2012, 04:04 PM)
My xp3 ended inside drawer after those long hours of burning in. No device to pair it with.
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any normal players should be good, even phone
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I am looking at those budget players like c30, teclast x19hd and Sansa. More I read more the more I'll likely to avoid the earlier 2.

How do you guys think the SQ from Sansa Clip/Clip+ goes with xp3?
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Dec 8 2012, 07:00 PM)
I am looking at those budget players like c30, teclast x19hd and Sansa. More I read more the more I'll likely to avoid the earlier 2.

How do you guys think the SQ from Sansa Clip/Clip+ goes with xp3?
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Dec 8 2012, 07:00 PM)
I am looking at those budget players like c30, teclast x19hd and Sansa. More I read more the more I'll likely to avoid the earlier 2.

How do you guys think the SQ from Sansa Clip/Clip+ goes with xp3?
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Finally got my XP1 - rclxm9.gif thanks walabies.

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Before anything, this is my first audiophile-branded-quite-decent-iem so it's hard to describe the SQ and also kinda unfair to make comparison based on my old trusty and battered Sony MW600 headset and a rarely used ATH-SJ33 headphones (not a fan of on-ear headphones after all btw tongue.gif ).

Out of box:

Very nice build quality. I chose silver to give more impression of solid metal-built driver chamber plus with the gooding 'marble' sound when they strike each other. gotta love that. Also the size fit nicely in my ear. Doesn't feel heavy despite the big metal stuff there.

Microphonics noise! yes its kinda annoying but acceptable since I'm used to flat cable already. Just minimize movements will do. Owned a knockoff beats tour before so yea..adapted from it. sweat.gif Anyway the cables really soft and flexible despite the massive size it look.

But nothing more annoying than the cracking sound on whenever I tried to re-adjust the buds or pushing deeper inside. mad.gif Is this common thing with large driver unit? I guessed there is nothing I could do about this? For now I use smaller tips than the pre-fitted one to minimize cracking but will sacrificing abit of isolation. sad.gif

Sound:

The bass just WOW~. Its everywhere blink.gif lol. Obviously the first thing I noticed is the overall SQ is already much better without any EQ bass boost compare to MW600 (its wired btw). Turn on the EQ, and its going overwhelming but initially the bass kinda stiff abit and wont spread much. mid as everyone said, recessed way bottom. same also with treble.

So did a 1 hour++ of pink noise burn-in at 50-60% volume to loosen up abit. Don't want too long scare would damage the driver. Then just continuously play everyday songlist to let it mature normally.

After about 10 hours++, the sound more open at much wider spectrum. I can hear more mid and treble. The bass also better as getting more in place, punchy and I can now feel those very subtle low bass note which were unheard before. Its fun noticing here and there, feel like listening to new song. So for more details, while waiting for mid and high to fully surface later on, I just tweak EQ abit to bring it up till then, when reaching hundreds hours of usage I hope it become much better.

Overall Im happy with the full range of bass sound and its amount are satisfying to me. Listening to rap metal and bassy songs became more enjoyable. And how funny that I'm now starting to appreciate those ridiculous dubstep and similar stuffs. I guess Im a basshead after all. laugh.gif

Glad that I chose XP1. Very good sound quality in very stylish and classy design yet affordable enough to attract newbie like me.

~And this probably marks the point where I might or might not started venturing deeper into audiophile world. cool.gif
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QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Dec 8 2012, 10:21 PM)
You can consider hippo biscuit, in term of sound quality it wont lose out to any you mentioned.
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No doubt the sound quality from hippo biscuit will be better than those listed. But I would prefer an all rounder DAP for now, so I 'll see if I can chance on a cheap Santa Clip+ and rockbox it.
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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 9 2012, 12:47 AM)

But nothing more annoying than the cracking sound on whenever I tried to re-adjust the buds or pushing deeper inside.  mad.gif Is this common thing with large driver unit? I guessed there is nothing I could do about this? For now I use smaller tips than the pre-fitted one to minimize cracking but will sacrificing abit of isolation.  sad.gif

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Yay another XP1 owner biggrin.gif ! Anyway, I haven't encountered any cracking noise but I upgraded the tips to Hippo Foam not long after I got the XP1. Much better seal from the foam tips.
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QUOTE(secondrate @ Dec 10 2012, 08:41 AM)
Yay another XP1 owner  biggrin.gif ! Anyway, I haven't encountered any cracking noise but I upgraded the tips to Hippo Foam  not long after I got the XP1. Much better seal from the foam tips.
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hurray for XP1 fella tongue.gif .Aiks,, just started now need to upgrade already.. ohmy.gif Whats the size of the pre-fitted tips? also foam tip got shorter lifespan isnt it? How long can wear until spoiled?

Regarding cracking, it always in L bud than the R one. so at first I thought maybe due to my left earcanal shape that caused the early seal of the flange but then now even I swap the bud to R also it happen. Here I think the L one got weaker diaphragm? or has already spoiled.. sound still ok for now but worry of continuous cracking will shorten the life span in long run.. never wanted the imbalance sound sad.gif


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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 10 2012, 05:13 PM)
hurray for XP1 fella  tongue.gif .Aiks,, just started now need to upgrade already..  ohmy.gif Whats the size of the pre-fitted tips? also foam tip got shorter lifespan isnt it? How long can wear until spoiled?

Regarding cracking, it always in L bud than the R one. so at first I thought maybe due to my left earcanal shape that caused the early seal of the flange but then now even I swap the bud to R also it happen. Here I think the L one got weaker diaphragm? or has already spoiled.. sound still ok for now but worry of continuous cracking will shorten the life span in long run.. never wanted the imbalance sound  sad.gif
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I got this as well for couple of my IEM, probably due to their closed nature and the air pressure from the ear, so you might need to insert slowly and not too deep, try to use the double-flange or else save up and buy the foam type, 5 pairs RM40 from Jaben. 1 pair can probably last you 2~3 months depends.
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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 10 2012, 05:13 PM)
hurray for XP1 fella  tongue.gif .Aiks,, just started now need to upgrade already..  ohmy.gif Whats the size of the pre-fitted tips? also foam tip got shorter lifespan isnt it? How long can wear until spoiled?

Regarding cracking, it always in L bud than the R one. so at first I thought maybe due to my left earcanal shape that caused the early seal of the flange but then now even I swap the bud to R also it happen. Here I think the L one got weaker diaphragm? or has already spoiled.. sound still ok for now but worry of continuous cracking will shorten the life span in long run.. never wanted the imbalance sound  sad.gif
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It is caused by the air pressure inside your ears, the reason as human are not balance for left and right side, hence it happens only at one side of your ear.
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Added users list and some new place to purchase it =D.

Enjoy your XP series my fellow buddies!!
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 10 2012, 05:44 PM)
I got this as well for couple of my IEM, probably due to their closed nature and the air pressure from the ear, so you might need to insert slowly and not too deep, try to use the double-flange or else save up and buy the foam type, 5 pairs RM40 from Jaben. 1 pair can probably last you 2~3 months depends.
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Yeah I did some reading, looks like these particular IEM characteristics are the main cause. Now I tried inserting slowly while open my mouth to give more room to air to compress laugh.gif
Tried double flange but didnt like losing the bass intensity and also the insecure feeling of the buds hanging too far worrying it might come off anytime soon.

QUOTE(SpringBiscuit @ Dec 10 2012, 06:43 PM)
It is caused by the air pressure inside your ears, the reason as human are not balance for left and right side, hence it happens only at one side of your ear.
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So its safe to assume this is normal case. Sometimes I did feel the balance is off by ~5%-10% more to R. I hope the driver itself is not at fault. While at it I tried few other tip sizes and some of them give more balanced output at certain position means good isolation is another factor here..

Looks like have to consider Hippo Foam after all hmm.gif

QUOTE(windboy @ Dec 10 2012, 06:49 PM)
Added users list and some new place to purchase it =D.

Enjoy your XP series my fellow buddies!!
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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 10 2012, 07:26 PM)
Yeah I did some reading, looks like these particular IEM characteristics are the main cause. Now I tried inserting slowly while open my mouth to give more room to air to compress  laugh.gif
Tried double flange but didnt like losing the bass intensity and also the insecure feeling of the buds hanging too far worrying it might come off anytime soon.
So its safe to assume this is normal case. Sometimes I did feel the balance is off by ~5%-10% more to R. I hope the driver itself is not at fault. While at it I tried few other tip sizes and some of them give more balanced output at certain position means good isolation is another factor here..

Looks like have to consider Hippo Foam after all hmm.gif
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Yes that is correct, as our ears canal are not parallel same size, you can try smaller/bigger size eartip in one ear, it doesnt need to be both ears same size eartip, as long it fits and provide great isolation.
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5 pairs RM40 from Jaben. 1 pair can probably last you 2~3 months depends.
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Yes this! Different sizes available. My friend went to redeem the RM 88 voucher for me and got me 1 pack of M size. Fits great!
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QUOTE(azyune @ Dec 10 2012, 07:26 PM)
Yeah I did some reading, looks like these particular IEM characteristics are the main cause. Now I tried inserting slowly while open my mouth to give more room to air to compress  laugh.gif
Tried double flange but didnt like losing the bass intensity and also the insecure feeling of the buds hanging too far worrying it might come off anytime soon.
So its safe to assume this is normal case. Sometimes I did feel the balance is off by ~5%-10% more to R. I hope the driver itself is not at fault. While at it I tried few other tip sizes and some of them give more balanced output at certain position means good isolation is another factor here..

Looks like have to consider Hippo Foam after all hmm.gif
Thanks~ Im enjoying it much wub.gif
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Does it happen to all the songs?
Actually some of the songs are recorded left right not balanced. It is quite normal. Some is due to player etc... many factors...
If it really a very huge difference do give us a beep.
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QUOTE(windboy @ Dec 10 2012, 06:49 PM)
Added users list and some new place to purchase it =D.

Enjoy your XP series my fellow buddies!!
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Thanks. I saw u listed Wowloud. Anyone here bought from them before? How's their service?

They currently have Xmas promotion for the XP series. Only RM 179. Im thinking of getting the XP3. Is it safe to get from them or should i just go Jaben?
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Regarding the cracking noise when you insert the xp inside your ears,it might because of the ear tip,and XP1 and XP2 has this problem as XP3 dont have this kind of sound,if you are away,XP3 ear tip's nozzle hole(the silicon) is smaller than those from xp1 and xp2,so the ear tip might not squeeze as much as xp1/2,hence no cracking sound.

That is what I observed. The cracking sound is only exist when you push it inside the ears right?


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QUOTE(mrsu @ Dec 17 2012, 06:47 AM)
Regarding the cracking noise when you insert the xp inside your ears,it might because of the ear tip,and XP1 and XP2 has this problem as XP3 dont have this kind of sound,if you are away,XP3 ear tip's nozzle hole(the silicon) is smaller than those from xp1 and xp2,so the ear tip might not squeeze as much as xp1/2,hence no cracking sound.

That is what I observed. The cracking sound is only exist when you push it inside the ears right?
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I did experienced the cracking sound on the left side only of the XP3 with higher volume. Maybe a third party tips will help?

From the soundtrack i always played as below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sphOi1zN300

starting from 0:36-0:39, the cracking sound appeared.

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I did experienced the cracking sound on the left side only of the XP3 with higher volume. Maybe a third party tips will help?

From the soundtrack i always played as below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sphOi1zN300

starting from 0:36-0:39, the cracking sound appeared.
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If you use speaker or other earphone/headphone,will the sound appear again?

It might because of the recording. Or do you encountered this problem with other song before?
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QUOTE(mrsu @ Dec 17 2012, 07:14 AM)
If you use speaker or other earphone/headphone,will the sound appear again?

It might because of the recording. Or do you encountered this problem with other song before?
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Yes. I did tried on my DT770, DR150, and speaker. They didn't produce the cracking sound on that particular area. Only XP3 did.

Some songs did produce this cracking song but I can't remember which. Some work great on XP3

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Yes. I did tried on my DT770, DR150, and speaker. They didn't produce the cracking sound on that particular area. Only XP3 did.

Some songs did produce this cracking song but I can't remember which. Some work great on XP3
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it might be the possibility of the audio file has clipping in it, just that the other hardware are not as sensitive as the IEM, so you cant hear it from the headphones and speakers, xp3 can easily pick up the flaws
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QUOTE(zandara @ Dec 17 2012, 07:22 AM)
Yes. I did tried on my DT770, DR150, and speaker. They didn't produce the cracking sound on that particular area. Only XP3 did.

Some songs did produce this cracking song but I can't remember which. Some work great on XP3
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QUOTE(zandara @ Dec 17 2012, 07:22 AM)
Yes. I did tried on my DT770, DR150, and speaker. They didn't produce the cracking sound on that particular area. Only XP3 did.

Some songs did produce this cracking song but I can't remember which. Some work great on XP3
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hmm.gif Can you reproduce it on the right side? Like switch the left to right channel.
From my side here, I'm using UD100 DAC to test it on my XP3, and no such incident, possibly the diaphragm is already crack, or should it has a diaphragm? ( sweat.gif Didn't open any IEM before.)
Anyway if you have problem of cracking with sub-bass song (very deep bass) then possible it's already spoilt, you can go for warranty if they do accept it, good luck. icon_rolleyes.gif

Note: This little IEM can goes really deep, and it rumbles really hard, vibrate till your ear can fatigue for long hours so it shouldn't produce cracking noise when it hit low. nod.gif Unless it's been driven really hard on high volume. hmm.gif
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Thanks for all the replies.
Just tried again with my S3 plug and play with poweramp apps.

Volume : at 3 oclock ( donno how many percent)
Song played nice until the end( from the soundtrack i provided on previous post)

When the volume over 3 oclock until the max. The cracking sound on left side appear.

I did tried to send back for warranty(by postage) with Jaben. But they send back the same unit to me and said the SG side tested no problem.

Maybe I need to drive down to Subang and let them check lol.
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how does XP2 compared to klipsch S4 or Sony MH1C? still deciding between these 3.

and yeah my playlist is rock song n dubstep all the way biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2012, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Dec 17 2012, 12:44 AM)
Thanks. I saw u listed Wowloud. Anyone here bought from them before? How's their service?

They currently have Xmas promotion for the XP series. Only RM 179. Im thinking of getting the XP3. Is it safe to get from them or should i just go Jaben?
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QUOTE(mrsu @ Dec 17 2012, 06:47 AM)
Regarding the cracking noise when you insert the xp inside your ears,it might because of the ear tip,and XP1 and XP2 has this problem as XP3 dont have this kind of sound,if you are away,XP3 ear tip's nozzle hole(the silicon) is smaller than those from xp1 and xp2,so the ear tip might not squeeze as much as xp1/2,hence no cracking sound.

That is what I observed. The cracking sound is only exist when you push it inside the ears right?
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There are a lot of factors causing the cracking sound, especially IEMs. It might be even your physical, you ear canel shape causing the vibrations etc. Anyway, you can switch left and right see it is your ear causing the problems.



QUOTE(trisx @ Dec 17 2012, 03:43 PM)
how does XP2 compared to klipsch S4 or Sony MH1C?  still deciding between these 3.

and yeah my playlist is rock song n dubstep all the way biggrin.gif
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You definitely should try XP2, cos... it is cheaper, no harm to try...
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post Dec 21 2012, 09:51 PM

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Looks like i'm in the club as well. You guys are the worst poison-ners! biggrin.gif
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post Dec 21 2012, 10:25 PM

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i am one of those who will collect them all, now i have xp1 and xp3, just wait next month i will have xp2
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Dec 21 2012, 10:25 PM)
i am one of those who will collect them all, now i have xp1 and xp3, just wait next month i will have xp2
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I went auditioned them all yesterday and the best sounding (to my ears at least) is the XP2. You must get it to complete your collection. Too bad i've ordered the XP3 but i love it nonetheless. icon_rolleyes.gif

What sound files do you guys use to burn in?

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QUOTE(lerijiso @ Dec 21 2012, 10:37 PM)
I went auditioned them all yesterday and the best sounding (to my ears at least) is the XP2. You must get it to complete your collection. Too bad i've ordered the XP3 but i love it nonetheless. icon_rolleyes.gif

What sound files do you guys use to burn in?
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i just listen as normal, i am a believer in burn ins, but i dont believe in using some type of noise to do so
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Dec 21 2012, 10:39 PM)
i just listen as normal, i am a believer in burn ins, but i dont believe in using some type of noise to do so
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Thanx for the reassurance. Im currently letting it play movie scores.
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add me in xp3 user list. Juz got it yesterday from Jaben.
I love it. I using it ipod and EQ set to boost bass and it sounds perfectly. biggrin.gif
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Hi guys, I have a trouble with my xp3.
My right sided earpiece seems softer and sometimes I heard there is a bleeding sound.
Never encountered such problem before though. Need some advice thanks.
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QUOTE(weingseen @ Dec 23 2012, 10:22 PM)
Hi guys, I have a trouble with my xp3.
My right sided earpiece seems softer and sometimes I heard there is a bleeding sound.
Never encountered such problem before though. Need some advice thanks.
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Me too. I've returned mine for a replacement. The replacement unit is definitely better than the first one i got and confirmed that the first one is indeed a defect. I still feel there is a difference in signature though. Maybe my hearing is damaged. Need more opinions from xp3 users here.

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post Dec 25 2012, 03:14 PM

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Hi, try switching sides and see if it still happens. If not you can send back for checking and RMA.
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just bought it from wowloud store. on sale!!!

but will only come minimum one week. sad.gif
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QUOTE(walabies @ Dec 25 2012, 03:14 PM)
Hi, try switching sides and see if it still happens. If not you can send back for checking and RMA.
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Yeap I included of changing sides and it seems the left sided earpiece is still louder.
I think I'll drop by jaben somedays.
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QUOTE(weingseen @ Dec 25 2012, 10:33 PM)
Yeap I included of changing sides and it seems the left sided earpiece is still louder.
I think I'll drop by jaben somedays.
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Yup. I can confirm that i have the same issue. You should go back and get a replacement.

I got mine from Wowloud webstore. For my case, the L-R difference was small but very noticeable. To confirm I tried many songs (stereo & mono recording) and all yielded the same result. I tried switching sides as well as listening to both sides of the earphone on one ear. The volume is smaller and less full on the right side making the whole experience of music listening less satisfying and lopsided.

Details that are supposed to come from the right side is muffled. I have to crank up the volume to compensate the right side and as a result the left side is overcompensated and it makes my left ear hurts. Its bearable but considering the money spent on a mid range IEM, its understandable that i do not expect this manufacturer defect.

I tested my other cheap iem's and headphone and they are all balance left and right. Hence I'm sure its not me, my music players or my song collections that are problematic.

So, i emailed them later that night and they shipped my replacement the next day. So i got my replacement in less than 48 hours (including courier time to Kuching Sarawak). The guys at wowloud were very helpful and efficient and they respond to all my complains. LOL.

So, go back and get them checked. Its easier for you because you can go directly to Jaben in your physical form. biggrin.gif

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