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 Beyerdynamic Latest XP series earphone!, A giant killer!

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wildwestgoh
post Aug 22 2012, 10:03 AM

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Auditioned the XP1, XP2 (**20+ hours burning) and XP3 (no burning).
** I think somewhere around there...

XP1 is totally out.. LOL I'm not sure anyone here like the Bass but, if you like Beats then it's an OK, the Bass is just... overwhelm, so much that it covers much of the mid and high.
XP2 is balance, but the Bass IMO still high (perhaps more burning needed?), according to Sim (the shop owner), 3 of the units focus on Bass so I guess that's pretty much it.
XP3 is well, better, detail, clarity is in there, has potential and shall do another audition coming Saturday if not Sunday, definitely gonna choose between BeyerDynamic XP3 vs VSonic GR02 (Bass enhance edition).

For most audiophile, XP3 is top choice, XP2 is for most pop song, XP1... umm... I don't know, Beats lover perhaps? haha~

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post Aug 27 2012, 01:16 PM

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Beyerdynamic XP series are all bass oriented, no doubt, even after 30+ hours of burning of the XP3 still has some bass on it, it's due to the cable design, huge-flat~~ and the microphonic is pretty annoying if you move around much.
Compare XP3 to VSonic GR02 Bass edition, GR02 has much punch to the bass and detail (with the right ear-bud), while XP3 is much neutral across all bands (clarity/detail focus) but still has the muddy bass feels to it (cable design).
Overall Beyerdynamic has make it right (this time I heard?), and the shop (SCLG) here already has few pre-order for XP2 and XP3.

Personally , I might choose the GR02 over XP3 due to the microphonic issue, it's really big thing for me as I sit near my desk fan, it can get really annoying on a hot day. GR02 has smaller, softer cable that reduce the microphonic, for the rest, XP3 is a good choice, looks cool as well if you walk in the street, "hey! it's a BAAEEEYEEERRR~~"
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post Aug 30 2012, 08:16 PM

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Sorry Windboy, I just auditioned the XP3 but not an owner, apology if I might have confused anyone, but I may (just may) pick up XP3 one day if I have some budget, it's a cool earphone but not suited my taste currently.

Note: Need more audition to poison myself to get it. tongue.gif *Looks cool*
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post Sep 1 2012, 09:33 PM

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True Proud Owner of XP3 (LMAO).
The story goes like this, I reached SCLG, and the boss straight tell me, GR02 all sold out, I was very disappointed, and he tell me to audition again; the XP3 vs the GR02, so I pick it up and have it another go, to my surprise, it beats GR02 hands down, burn-in 70+ hours result, you won't believe how different it is compare to 0 hour.
All the bands comes out, clear, treble, mids, bass, everything sounds so clear after 70+ near 80 hours. The vocal is now much forward, you can clearly hear almost every detail (can't compare to sub RM500+ one) and the muddy bass is reduced to almost Nil, according to him, best sounding will be after 150+ hours burn-in.
So for whoever wants the best out of this Beyer, Patient, you must be very patient, the TRUE quality only comes out after 80+ hours, 150+ hours recommended but 70+ already gave me the shock, "Is this what Beyer want us to hear???"
So I took out my wallet and now looking for burn-in music (or whatever noise) to let it run the whole night, of course with intermittent pause.

Can't wait to reach that 70+ hours burn-in result.... yeah... Beyer~~

Update: Faster burn in using JLABS Burn In Player, already can see some result such as reduce muddy bass and bands all come out but will need more time to get more details out from this unit.
FYI I just played for 7 hours+.
DAC/AMP: Hippo CriCri+
Software: Google Chrome to open the webpage wink.gif

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post Sep 3 2012, 08:54 AM

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Oh and to add to the burn-in, now I'm using movie soundtrack (by John Williams) *ahem* *ahem* from friend, he recommend me to use this as burn-in as it'll enrich some of the part that the JLABS burn-in tool won't do, I'll go straight with the soundtrack for couple more days (maybe just this week) before I start putting my own anime soundtrack (vocal, rock, pop, metal) to further tune-in.

At my current stage, after 7+ hours of JLABS, 9+ hours of movie soundtrack, the bands sounds smooth now, more mids compare to 7+ hours JLABS, of course I can't compare to the 80+ hours which is so great I want to exchange his with mine (very tempted).
Sound stage wise, still can't compare to my trusted oldie AT-CK300M, yes it was the one that slowly poison me into this world, old yet sound still great (burn until wire also stiff -.-;;)

Will burn-in again the whole day, probably rest 10+ minutes after 1 round (1 hour 50 minutes each round) try not to overheat the diaphragm .

p/s: Was suggested NOT to use JLABS burn-in tool after 20+ hours burn-in as it'll spoil the diaphragm like there's no tomorrow. True? I'm not sure, cause I'm using the movie soundtrack now as highly recommended, soundtrack is also good to enrich the bass, mid, and also detail of the instruments.
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post Sep 3 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 3 2012, 01:48 PM)
So if like the sound of GR02, should I go for XP3 or XP2?
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GR02, can't compare with XP3 or XP2, they're on different signature, the GR02 is slightly on the high side, and the mid isn't as forward as XP3, probably XP2 is the choice but you need to audition them to find out, and you need to find XP2 with at least 50+ hours burn-in to compare wink.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 04:11 PM

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XP3 bass is already quite a lot IMO, perhaps I was gotten used to AT-CK300M (almost neutral with solid deep bass only).
Either way, according to one of the Head-Fi review, all of the series has the same amount of bass, the only different is where the bass reside, XP1 has lots of mid-bass so the mid part can be a bit muddy IMO (need to audition this), XP2 and XP3 different is... erm, almost unnoticeable? Really need to audition all when they're above 70+ hours.
I only have XP3 myself so I can only say, it's great, with more burn-in, it could match my oldie AT-CK300M with just more bass.

For bass head, XP1 all the way, A-Jays? XP1 could replace it at better price point.

As for the double flange, my part it might looks weird as it's hanging mid-air at my ear, it only has 1 size for the double flange. I used one of my Galaxy Note stock ear tips and it fit exactly where I like them. Ear tips also play important parts in the sound, choose wisely.

Comply is also good if you want reduce the bass and it can gives much forward mid and high.

Overall, this baby needs real burn in to reach its true colour, you can't judge it out of the box (0 hour).
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post Sep 6 2012, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(sslim3883 @ Sep 6 2012, 12:24 AM)
Bad News Test unit  oso been Taken,  Kuching - XP3 stock Zero xp


Added on September 6, 2012, 12:26 amTry Foam + Gobive MiniBoxes , you will supprise
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WHAT??!! doh.gif Darn, was going to compare mine when it reaches 70+ hours, guess I'll just trust my ear this time. sweat.gif
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post Sep 10 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 10 2012, 04:28 PM)
totally
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Even the XP3 is quite bassy (by cable design) for me, gotten used to CK300M signature, burned into my brain for the past 4 years lol. cool.gif

Gonna burn in that XP3 to loosen the bass feels... yeap~~ wink.gif

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post Sep 12 2012, 10:32 PM

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Impression of 100+ hours burn in. One sentence, you just can't get rid that bass feels LOL, very rumble and punchy.
Detail wise is where this starts, it gets clearer with burn in.
Currently I'm queueing list of song consist of some classic like Sophie Milman, Louis Amstrong, follow by several of my top picked Anime song, metal, rock, ochestral, mixture with lots of vocal to drive the mid out of this baby, now I'm only goes for 7 hours per day with 5 minutes break between album (uses blank MP3).
XP3 is nice to listen to instruments focus music, vocal wise is a bit lad back, which is why some of the reviews state it gives "V" shape sound.
I'll audition the XP1 which is suppose to be bass heavy, the boss is currently burn in that unit, hopefully can get a good listen to compare them, according to him, he prefer the XP2 (balanced)

Add: But if your DAC can bring out the mid, then the V should sound like U. wink.gif

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post Sep 13 2012, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Sep 12 2012, 10:45 PM)
lol didnt mention xp what?
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Erm... not sure if I understand you correctly or not, maybe I should mention that I'm using XP3 myself?
I only own the XP3 hehe... will save up for something more poisonous... brows.gif
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post Sep 14 2012, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(farisq @ Sep 13 2012, 02:13 PM)
Noooo not this poison  icon_question.gif  Got too many IEM in my collection already and too little  moneyflies.gif to spend.

Btw who's the boss u'r talking about  hmm.gif
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SLCG Boss at OneJaya, Kuching, Sarawak. wink.gif
Btw he's also a forum-er here but less active, sslim3883
He always introduce some poison to me, LOL... yeap I got poisoned as well, by a strong poison that yet to come... need to fill up my wallet first, this month already empty le sweat.gif

QUOTE(zandara @ Sep 13 2012, 03:11 PM)
Just got my unit today. Wonder how strong is XP1 bass....
Even XP3 i feel the bass is strong enough while playing Rihanna - Where have you been
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According to review, the amount of bass is same for these XP series, means it could be just the design of the cable that affects it, and the other factors just could be the housing, very strange that those design can affect the EQ so much. hmm.gif
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post Sep 14 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(bzz @ Sep 14 2012, 02:41 PM)
Got mine yesterday (XP3).

test few songs after open the box. compare to my old EP630 (im not audiophile). Much2 better. Then burn in around 15 hours until this morning. Compare again right now. The sound much2 better and seriously left my old iem behind. makan asap.

I cant explain if its fast, warm, whatever. But to me. xp3 suitable to all songs and the best thing. compare to other rm400-500 iem. This one is a steal...
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EP630, reminds me of my first ever IEM that I gave away~
Have you auditioned Yamaha EPH-100? You'll be surprised. Anyway that's totally different league.
XP3 is good at its price range, better than the A-JAY for the bass head (Beats aside).
15 hours of burning is still too early to tell, 70+ hours is the where it starts, almost 180 degree different from 0 hour. sweat.gif
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post Sep 18 2012, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 02:44 PM)
XP3 users, wanna ask if after burn in, does the highs still stay strong? The female vocals sounds sharp to me.
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Took me a while to reply (always Gateway timed out)... ok, time to reply.
XP3 has a V shape band so the bass and high sounded high, tune down the volume should help a bit, otherwise you'll just need to tune the EQ with less treble.
XP2 is rather flat (balance) so the high won't be so sharp.
I, myself also got slightly irritated by the extreme high but I guess I got used to my AT-CK300M which has very flat treble responds, but the clarity and detail really good on the XP3, should be the reason of the high that pushes some of the detail that you usually won't notice.
I'll try to audition the XP2 again to compare it with my XP3 after 150 hour burn-in.
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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 05:37 PM)
So I guess that XP3's high still will stay high even after long hours of burn in?
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You can try with 200 hours burn in and try it but my ear just itch to try out after several hours lol, but after 80+ hours the audio isn't so significant already so if it's still too high to you then I'm not sure what way to reduce it (burn in).
Anyway there're few AMP out there that you can try out to reduce the high, some did that (need to audition) if I remember correctly it's a small white box, from Hippo unsure.gif ... well you can use that as pass-through to reduce the high.
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post Sep 19 2012, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 19 2012, 06:41 AM)
Ok, will use it more often and see if there's improvement.
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wink.gif Yeap~ That's the spirit, patient... well, I'm currently queueing more songs (vocal) for extended burn-in.
Searching for more classic 24-96... *ahem* whistling.gif


Added on September 19, 2012, 7:04 am
QUOTE(kennethkee93 @ Sep 18 2012, 10:55 PM)
White hippo box? Hippo box+, hippo cricri? Btw, still burning in, hope the highs won't stay that way..like the Beyer DT231, at first the high are very high, but after using it for a year, it getting more neutral.
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http://jaben.com.my/shopping2/Hippo-Pipe-Mini-Amplifier/
It's Hippo Pipe Mini, found the image at Jaben Malaysia, the demo unit at SCLG is way too plain, just know it's a white stuff, you can try to audition it and see if it can helps you, or take boss walabies advice, he's experienced afterall brows.gif

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post Sep 20 2012, 07:35 PM

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160-hour+ impression, just a quick one on this, not much changes.
Highs, now this one is a good improvement, the ear piercing highs now feels great, it seems to settle down.
Mid, same, slightly U (might due to Hippo Cri Cri+), anyway the voice now feels great as well with the highs settle down.
Bass, there's certainly lots, hey, it's XP series... so if you don't like Bass, sorry boss go for AT or FAD.
Sound stage, wonder if it's me or the stage just widen by slightly, not much until you really notice it. Anyway I didn't use the stock tips, I use one of the Galaxy Note IEM stock tips (white one) that fits my ear perfectly. Have not yet try double-flange tips.

Good luck to all XP3 owners out there, keep up the burning, will report in again after 200-hour+.

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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Sep 21 20152 PM)
I know I might get flake for saying this but currently the 30 hours burn-in xp3 doesn't sound comparatively near to Jaben's demo unit, very far from i
It has been mentioned longer burn-in is needed but can longer burn-in result in 50% SQ improvement for xp3?
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If you want it to have the signature you want, then burn in with your own song, and try to avoid heavy bass, cause mine right now has so much bass it can rival XP1, anyway I'm now focus on the vocal and try to loosen the driver so the detail won't sound too analytical, want some slight trail on those details so the mid would sound relax.
That's all, after 150-hour, there's not much to improve except to get the frequency response to settle down wink.gif

Add: After auditioned the XP2, I found I prefer that much forward mid, but all others is slight laid back so the instruments won't sound nice, well, those are just something that I have to compensate. At least I still have my old trustee AT-CK300M "bell" sound that I like.

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Our partner Jaben assured us to deliver only to Asian customer, but if any XP in-ears show up in your market, or in case you receive warranty claims from customers, please let us know immediately.

Quote from http://asia-pacific-india.beyerdynamic.com.../xp-series.html

What does that direct to? Reseller? Jaben? hmm.gif
So this also means US and EU consumer won't be able to get this? sweat.gif
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