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post Feb 4 2006, 04:32 PM, updated 18y ago

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Hi guys,

Anybody been to Shell Recruitment Day (SRD)? Mind share your experiences in this thread.

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I would like to know too. Pls share ur exp.
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What position ?
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Just FYI guys,

If you were to search Jobstreet for jobs under SHELL Cyberjaya, it is possible to key in "Micom" as a keyword in your search, since I believe that is an Agency which is recruiting for SHELL....(possibly one year contract with this agency before SHELL decides to absorb or not)
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What's the difference between Shell Cyberjaya and Shell Damansara Heights? Which one is the HQ?

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damansara is their hq

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Hello,

Anyone went for the first asessment? there was a first assessment at Shell House (the one at Damansara Heights) some time last week, anybody has an information about when roughly the recruitment day would be?
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According to them, the SRD will be held somewhen in March. Exact date isn't define yet and those who passed the first interview assessment will be notified later.

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Ok the Shell Recruitment Day is a day where potential candidates will spend the entire day going through case studies, interviews, team case studies and other activities. After that they will decide on who to hire.

Shell in Cyberjaya is the Data Centre for Shell Globally while the one in Damansara is Shell Malaysia. There is also a Shell Consultancy in KLCC but I think that is the Asia Pacific Region branch. Not very sure about that.
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Shell Cyberjaya, or SITI (Shell Information Techology International) its more on IT line / IT support, as for Shell KL, more to the oil product line...

The Shell Recruitment its for it permanent staff, as for the MICOM mention, its more to the contract side, but most of the opening its on SITI.

Shell Recruitment 1 its tough, but able get throught, its good...
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post Feb 5 2006, 08:09 PM

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Any tips or things that need special care or preparations?

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post Feb 6 2006, 09:11 AM

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Well the case studies that my friends went to the last time was about strategic planning as a group on where to place oil refineries, and how you have to reason your choice of locality and such. During the interviews they can ask about anything under the sun but they like to ask alot of about environmental stuff and space exploration stuff. Maybe you can read about alternate fuel energy which Shell is researching on in Germany.
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Refining and exploration knowledge ... I know nothing about those stuffs.

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That is what Google is for. Do your research, don't expect everything to fall on your lap you know tongue.gif

Trust me, the research will do you good, also read up on the business side as well. Shell will only hire those who are broadminded and have good general knowledge. My friends all got turned downed because Shell told them that they are not broad minded enough and have a very narrow way of thinking. These guys aren't that dumb, first class students with a masters from the UK.

So do yourself a favour and start researching, a lot!

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yup sometimes the person who thinks they know too much are the ones that are shot down. I come from a Shell Family and even grew up the Shell way. So I roughly know what kind of person they are looking for.

I've even seen a Diploma Holder selected over a degree holder. It's all about attitude and please dun lie and also make sure u get ur facts right. They love a good arguement but make sure it's all facts.

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QUOTE(Mavik @ Feb 6 2006, 09:57 AM)
That is what Google is for. Do your research, don't expect everything to fall on your lap you know tongue.gif

Trust me, the research will do you good, also read up on the business side as well. Shell will only hire those who are broadminded and have good general knowledge. My friends all got turned downed because Shell told them that they are not broad minded enough and have a very narrow way of thinking. These guys aren't that dumb, first class students with a masters from the UK.

So do yourself a favour and start researching, a lot!
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Business side? What you meant by this?

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Cover not just the technical side of Oil and Exploration or anything in what Shell is doing but check out their businesses as well.

In terms of case study, don't think from a technical term only but look at it from various views. Try to imagine yourself as a business student answering an engineering case study then try out other roles because all suggestions will be related to the problem.

In short, just practice thinking outside the box.
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About the alternative fuel energy that is being researched in Germany, is that hydrogen fuel?

To think as a business student is extremely difficult for me as an engineering student. sweat.gif

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 6 2006, 12:37 PM)
About the alternative fuel energy that is being researched in Germany, is that hydrogen fuel?

To think as a business student is extremely difficult for me as an engineering student. sweat.gif

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I was an engineering student also but I still managed to get into the mindset of a business student so there aren't any excuses you know wink.gif

Just work hard on researching the company and finding out more about the business they are in. Yes the research is on hydrogen fuel in fuel cell technology smile.gif
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All the information regarding the company is available at their website right?

What are the business mindset they're scouting for? Mind giving some examples ...

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That you have to ask a Shell employee though. Its not really what they want or any specific type. They like to look for people who can think outside the box and I don't mean just business-like. You have to consider other perspectives and views from different sides of the fence.
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Guys, I have a BEng in Electronics. What type of position that I can apply in Shell ? huh.gif
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Feb 6 2006, 04:41 PM)
Guys, I have a BEng in Electronics. What type of position that I can apply in Shell ?  huh.gif
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Good question ... I also want to know about this prospect.

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I know that there will be a series of case study, presentation, interview and group discussion which is something like a made-up conference, could someone please share with us the topics which will be more likely to be covered? Could share in detail the scenario in the case study?? Thank u!!
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Feb 6 2006, 04:41 PM)
Guys, I have a BEng in Electronics. What type of position that I can apply in Shell ?  huh.gif
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Shell's pay and benefit is very good. I heard from friend who works in Shell's SAP, they have lots of free time and resource to learn and explore.
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Hello,

One of the Shell recruiment days is scheduled on 16th of Feb, which is this coming Thursday, any of you guys going?
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QUOTE(montell81 @ Feb 13 2006, 04:46 PM)
Hello,

One of the Shell recruiment days is scheduled on 16th of Feb, which is this coming Thursday, any of you guys going?
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So, are you going for this batch? If so, please share your experience later. Thank you.

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i dunno whether this is the same that i went to last year but basically i went to the process of
1. Answering 5 questions on their website... submitted on dec.. received a reply on feb.
2. went for an interview at damansara. during this process they wont ask u questions like "why do u want to join/work with shell", and they dont wanna know all ur academic qualifications.. it's all non academic..

i can only remember the last bit of the interview...
e.g of questions they will ask
"what is the advantages and disadvantages of a prison?" - their fav question
"what is the advantages and disadvan of tourism?"

and take not that the SRD is the second process of the grad prog...

and if u do all the processes... they wont gurantee a position related to what u have studied or u desire.. they can just throw u into logistic or hr...

so all the best!


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QUOTE(pinkrazr @ Feb 13 2006, 10:30 PM)
i dunno whether this is the same that i went to last year but basically i went to the process of
1. Answering 5 questions on their website... submitted on dec.. received a reply on feb.
2. went for an interview at damansara.  during this process they wont ask u questions like "why do u want to join/work with shell", and they dont wanna know all ur academic qualifications.. it's all non academic..

i can only remember the last bit of the interview...
e.g of questions they will ask
"what is the advantages and disadvantages of a prison?" - their fav question
"what is the advantages and disadvan of tourism?"

and take not that the SRD is the second process of the grad prog...

and if u do all the processes... they wont gurantee a position related to what u have studied or u desire.. they can just throw u into logistic or hr...

so all the best!
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Hello,

First of all, which field are u from? was it the first or the second interview when two of the questions which u mentioned raised to u? During the first interview at Shell House, Damansar Heights, they ask a lot of things about your achievement, they stressed a lot on whether you have taken up leadership responsibities in the achievement that you have obtained. Then they provided questions about general knowledge, the topic was "national park":
1. What do you know about national park?
2. what is the importance?
3. What is the advantages?
4. What is the consequences if we lose the national park?

etc..


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Umm , sorry to bother , but where will the recruitment day be located? It's on 16th Feb correct?
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This thread is focusing more on the SRD; not the initial screening interview. Be focus guys ...

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QUOTE(montell81 @ Feb 13 2006, 04:46 PM)
Hello,

One of the Shell recruiment days is scheduled on 16th of Feb, which is this coming Thursday, any of you guys going?
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mind to tell us the time and location pls? oh yes,mind 2 know wats the shell website address? 10u biggrin.gif
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http://www.shell.com <--- main URL

http://www.shell.com/career <--- for jobs related matters

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from the IT field...

so david83, i assume u passed the initial screening?
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QUOTE(pinkrazr @ Feb 14 2006, 10:40 PM)
from the IT field...

so david83, i assume u passed the initial screening?
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IT department? Will you be assigned to SITI? If you are then I can look you up haha tongue.gif

As for the Shell Recruitment day, for all of those who went for it, would you mind sharing your knowledge on the matter. E.g what did they ask you to do and the case studies that you had to complete, etc..etc..
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Feb 15 2006, 03:56 PM)
IT department? Will you be assigned to SITI? If you are then I can look you up haha tongue.gif

As for the Shell Recruitment day, for all of those who went for it, would you mind sharing your knowledge on the matter. E.g what did they ask you to do and the case studies that you had to complete, etc..etc..
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I have no idea at all. Have to wait till I have attended SRD. Who knows I might not be able to pass the SRD phase. However, if I pass and assign to SITI, I'll find for you. Thanks in advance ... smile.gif

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Anybody back from the 16 February SRD? Please share your experience.

Thank you. notworthy.gif

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anyone been to shell recruitment day?

curious to know what interview questions they ask for this time..

i was wondering, if i hold a degree plus got mcse and ccna this 2 professional cert. but i answer the interview averagely or badly..

so will i still stand a chance to be recruited.



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QUOTE(pinkrazr @ Feb 13 2006, 10:30 PM)
i dunno whether this is the same that i went to last year but basically i went to the process of
1. Answering 5 questions on their website... submitted on dec.. received a reply on feb.
2. went for an interview at damansara.  during this process they wont ask u questions like "why do u want to join/work with shell", and they dont wanna know all ur academic qualifications.. it's all non academic..

i can only remember the last bit of the interview...
e.g of questions they will ask
"what is the advantages and disadvantages of a prison?" - their fav question
"what is the advantages and disadvan of tourism?"

and take not that the SRD is the second process of the grad prog...

and if u do all the processes... they wont gurantee a position related to what u have studied or u desire.. they can just throw u into logistic or hr...

so all the best!
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QUOTE(montell81 @ Feb 14 2006, 08:18 AM)
Hello,

First of all, which field are u from? was it the first or the second interview when two of the questions which u mentioned raised to u? During the first interview at Shell House, Damansar Heights, they ask a lot of things about your achievement, they stressed a lot on whether you have taken up leadership responsibities in the achievement that you have obtained. Then they provided questions about general knowledge, the topic was "national park":
1. What do you know about national park?
2. what is the importance?
3. What is the advantages?
4. What is the consequences if we lose the national park?

etc..
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anyone here can share their thought on how to answer all tis questions..

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QUOTE(Guai Guai Zai @ Feb 21 2006, 05:24 PM)
anyone here can share their thought on how to answer all tis questions..
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Their intervies questions all tight close to the environments.
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Anyone coming to Shell Cyberjaya anytime soon?
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How many recruitment day they have in a year?
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hmm..
i really want to work with e' esp. on the turbine generator site..
although i hv very little experience on that..
In SRD oso got that post vacant or not eh?
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Offer letter?

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  Anyone coming to Shell Cyberjaya anytime soon?


Which team are you in?
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QUOTE(pinkrazr @ Feb 13 2006, 10:30 PM)
i dunno whether this is the same that i went to last year but basically i went to the process of
1. Answering 5 questions on their website... submitted on dec.. received a reply on feb.
2. went for an interview at damansara.  during this process they wont ask u questions like "why do u want to join/work with shell", and they dont wanna know all ur academic qualifications.. it's all non academic..

i can only remember the last bit of the interview...
e.g of questions they will ask
"what is the advantages and disadvantages of a prison?" - their fav question
"what is the advantages and disadvan of tourism?"

and take not that the SRD is the second process of the grad prog...

and if u do all the processes... they wont gurantee a position related to what u have studied or u desire.. they can just throw u into logistic or hr...

so all the best!
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I went through the initial interview last wednesday. I don't know they will call me for SRD or not... sweat.gif

I had the answer the subject same as above..."Tourism"...

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QUOTE(sheeeng @ Feb 27 2006, 02:38 AM)
I went through the initial interview last wednesday. I don't know they will call me for SRD or not... sweat.gif

I had the answer the subject same as above..."Tourism"...
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Why you think that they won't call you for SRD?

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i am picking up my offer letter today after 6pm, ahahahahahaha, after fiasco i put up at SRD, never thought they rolling me in, lol....so anyone working in SITI? Mind sharing the experience?
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Congrat to you, mind to share your experience in the SRD?

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4 advise:

Be confident in anything you do / say in there, remember, there are no wrong or right answer.

Body language is very important, when i got my SRD results, they told me about me sitting like a slouch almost turn me off from enrollment.

Dont be closed mind, everything and i do mean everything, any articles, memos or statements they give to analyze even they seems to be in different issues whatsover can be related to one another.

Show them that you can lead, so them you can be a boss, show them you have what it takes to give example to others. It is ok to ask questions back to them. I did that almost all the time. Heck during the 1st interview, due to some trickiry, they were the one answering the questions im suppose to answer. hahahahaha. Manupulation is the key.

I can say my experiences during SRD, it is something you must feel it yourself, it is fun, it is something to build up your character.
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So the topic that they asked/tested are related to what? Very broad? Related to environment, petrol industry and new form of energy?

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there are no specific topics, period, it could be environment, it could be IT, it could be culture but it will never be related to oild productions unless that SRD session is target for shell oil productions
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So which department will you be based at? GI?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 27 2006, 02:46 AM)
Why you think that they won't call you for SRD?

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Because the interviewer always ask me "THEN?" when I runs out of ideas....
I manage to answer all the questions, but I think I could not make many creative ideas to the questions given...

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4 advise:

Be confident in anything you do / say in there, remember, there are  no wrong or right answer.

Body language is very important, when i got my SRD results, they told me about me sitting like a slouch almost turn me off from enrollment.

Dont be closed mind, everything and i do mean everything, any articles, memos or statements they give to analyze even they seems to be in different issues whatsover can be related to one another.

Show them that you can lead, so them you can be a boss, show them you have what it takes to give example to others. It is ok to ask questions back to them. I did that almost all the time. Heck during the 1st interview, due to some trickiry, they were the one answering the questions im suppose to answer. hahahahaha. Manupulation is the key.

I can say my experiences during SRD, it is something you must feel it yourself, it is fun, it is something to build up your character.
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i will be based at Shell IT, Cyberjaya but with integration program they are doing, hopefully i get to travel around the world, hehehehe, dream on.
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i will be based at Shell IT, Cyberjaya but with integration program they are doing, hopefully i get to travel around the world, hehehehe, dream on.
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Good luck for future undertaking ...

Mind asking after the SRD, when you know the result of either you're succeeded or failed this round?

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You will know your scores about say 2-3 days after the SRD, they will tell you whether you meet their requirements or benchmark, even if you do pass, its not a gurantee a place in shell, i joined the 12th January 2006 SRD series, it was fun, full of knowledge experience. And i got the offer right on the spot, but the process took about a month after that, due to some complications (my SPM results were missing and i had to obtain it from JPM), so yeah, i could have work there sooner and be one of the accessors, since during my SRD, one of the accessor was the previous SRD graduate.
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QUOTE(havenzhiv @ Mar 9 2006, 12:55 AM)
You will know your scores about say 2-3 days after the SRD, they will tell you whether you meet their requirements or benchmark, even if you do pass, its not a gurantee a place in shell, i joined the 12th January 2006 SRD series, it was fun, full of knowledge experience. And i got the offer right on the spot, but the process took about a month after that, due to some complications (my SPM results were missing and i had to obtain it from JPM), so yeah, i could have work there sooner and be one of the accessors, since during my SRD, one of the accessor was the previous SRD graduate.
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mind telling us your SRD experience in details??

from the beginning you enter the room and the process one by one...? and the topics ... perhaps...
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QUOTE(kucingarab @ Mar 13 2006, 08:24 PM)
mind telling us your SRD experience in details??

from the beginning you enter the room and the process one by one...? and the topics ... perhaps...
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as i said before, it is something you have to experience it yourself, be confident and you will be alrite, there is a briefing meeting 1 day before SRd, do go, you'll be more prepared the next day. They will tell you what to do, what to prepare and a reading materials for you to excercise at the end of the meeting and to study at home.

Basically the session starts (for me) from 8 am to 4pm, 1st part, analysist thinking, i assume they test you analytical skill, communication and interpersonal skills.
(1 hour to prepare for about 15 min presentation)

2nd part, they will test and look at (assuming again) thinking skills, how do you work in a team, your drive for your reasons, your ability to lead.
(15 min to prepare for about 15 min presentation)

3rd part, is critical in my opinion, must have a good analytical skills and at the same time provide ad hoc solutions, how you manage your time and what justify your reasons.
(10 min to prepare for 20-30 min presentation)

Topic wise, i cant remember it well, its alot of topics thats for sure (especially the 1st part), bind it all together, look for links.

This is as much as what i will share, cant bocor more, or else no more surprise, trust me, its not a brain damaging session, its fun, i made friends there, the cordinator is very friendly, Mr Ahmad, ask him anything, he is a fun guy to be with.

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one more advise, if you finished your presentations ahead of time, don't look blur, be firm say its done, if they ask thats all, dont go ahhhhhhhhh yeah i think, add more goreng goreng buta buta, firmly say yes

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Thanks a bunch bro... for your 'bocor' information laugh.gif laugh.gif

just one more stupid question, what is the dress code??? suit with tie?? coat perhaps... haha... just tell me what did you wear...

i'll follow the SRD in April, it will be in their office in Miri. Congratulation for you and wish me luck... (I'm sure that I'll need a lot of that... )
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Anyone coming to Shell Cyberjaya anytime soon?
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Why? I think the canteen food sucks... The only good points are three pool tables and Shell shop... biggrin.gif

How do I know? Well, I've been there once or twice... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 16 2006, 12:51 PM)
Why? I think the canteen food sucks... The only good points are three pool tables and Shell shop... biggrin.gif

How do I know? Well, I've been there once or twice... biggrin.gif
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Wow so nice to have all those facilities... drool.gif

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QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 16 2006, 12:51 PM)
Why? I think the canteen food sucks... The only good points are three pool tables and Shell shop... biggrin.gif

How do I know? Well, I've been there once or twice... biggrin.gif
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Hehehe.. the canteen food is not that bad... there are still street malls, or even the food court next to Shell Wisma1 building...

and for the facilities, Shell has a recreation room which has the 2 ping-pong tables, 2 foosball, 4 carrom boards, darts and 3 pool tables... a gym with enuff equipements to sweat it out and a studio if you like jamming...
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Not bad to have such facilities at your work place.
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Do shell susidy parking cost for those who drive to work? I think the shell in damansara heights.. the parking there very limited and expensive....
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QUOTE(Esprit81 @ Mar 17 2006, 08:49 AM)
Do shell susidy parking cost for those who drive to work? I think the shell in damansara heights.. the parking there very limited and expensive....
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u hav quite a lot of parking space in SITI Cyberjaya
but it will still run short....tongue.gif
never expect u can park in basement after 9.30am(u still can get parked....probably back to the end of the basement...u ll hav to walk very far to get to the lift.....remember....veeeeeery far.... biggrin.gif

mavik,

u r in SITI????

btw....i m oso curious about the SRD.....wondering whether can i still go for it?

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QUOTE(Esprit81 @ Mar 17 2006, 08:49 AM)
Do shell susidy parking cost for those who drive to work? I think the shell in damansara heights.. the parking there very limited and expensive....
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hehehe... so far have not hear SITI does that... but SITI has ample parking space in Wisma 1 and Wisma2.. it just that everybody loves to drive alone and just imagine by noon, there are at least 200++ SITI staff are in the office and sometimes, they created their own parking space... ohmy.gif
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So who actually works for Shell here?

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So who actually works for Shell here?
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I do... but my contract finishes end of April... not to sure whether I want to renew or not... good luck for those who are applying for Shell... its always fun in ere...
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 17 2006, 09:13 AM)
u hav quite a lot of parking space in SITI Cyberjaya
but it will still run short....tongue.gif
never expect u can park in basement after 9.30am(u still can get parked....probably back to the end of the basement...u ll hav to walk very far to get to the lift.....remember....veeeeeery far.... biggrin.gif

mavik,

u r in SITI????

btw....i m oso curious about the SRD.....wondering whether can i still go for it?
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I am in SITI but I am didn't go through the recruitment day. I am a third party contractor there as well.
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of coz la....me too......

which department u r....

use internal code instead....don shout the name here....
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 17 2006, 06:03 PM)
of coz la....me too......

which department u r....

use internal code instead....don shout the name here....
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wah, didnt know that so many TPC from Lowyat forum

Im from SITI-ITIBCP101 also, but I already converted to FTC already...
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I am from SITI-ITIBDE4
still a TPC la....
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this thursday i got a interview in Shell which based on SITI cyberjaya, the pos
that i interview is IT support1,

Job Purpose: To provide a co-ordination point for all incoming and escalation requests as well as IT administration within the scope of Request Management Service Level Agreement and across all supported IT platforms and applications, encompassing network account security administration, application access administration and repository/records maintenance.

anyone know what the case studies, questions and procedure they will test me and ask me that day, please share ur exp to me or anyone in here. thanks
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hope to meet you guys soon next month, if everything goes well, i'll report on the 17th april, so prepare a red carpet for me aight, hahahaha
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wah, didnt know that so many TPC from Lowyat forum

Im from SITI-ITIBCP101 also, but I already converted to FTC already...
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Wow so many people here are located in SITI.

Mine is SITI-ITEPDC
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2 minute internet reaserch revealed:

Shell Recruitment Day

Piece of cake...

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QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 22 2006, 12:54 AM)
2 minute internet reaserch revealed:

Shell Recruitment Day

Piece of cake...
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hahahahhaa

piece of cake.....

hav u been attend it??

for some, it might piece of cake...

for some, its a great challenge...
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piece of cake???? yeahh.. I wish.... biggrin.gif
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What's so difficult in it?

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its really piece of cake if you know what you are doing, hahahaha
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there's another thing required... and it's not everybody has it...

this thing called 'LUCK!!'
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true true....

not jz know what u r doing....

sometimes u jz cant guarantee to win even u know wat u r facing....n wat u r doing.....

u might hav 99.99% expected/predicted
u ll never 100% predicted
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QUOTE(Esprit81 @ Mar 17 2006, 08:49 AM)
Do shell susidy parking cost for those who drive to work? I think the shell in damansara heights.. the parking there very limited and expensive....
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For those working at SITI, what's the parking rates there?
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For those working at SITI, what's the parking rates there?
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Yeah, must come early or your car will get roasted....
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Where is the thread starter???

Have you done your SRD for this March??? any good news???
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Where is the thread starter???

Have you done your SRD for this March??? any good news???
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Sadly to say NO. I didn't receive any calls or emails regarding this matter. It's already end of March.

Should I give them a call?
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hmm...

not sure.....but folks....those who r inside....

heard of any assessment coming soon??
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This is the schedule for 2006 that I have:

21 March
22 March
18 April
19 April
16 May
17 May

One SRD is happening today in KL ..., the April events will take place in Miri

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Wat is SRD ?
is one of SAP module?

beside this , any other vacancy in shell ??












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SRD = Shell Recruitment Day

You may check at their website www.shell.com
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hey i got phone interview appointed next monday OMG!! WHAT CAN I DO!!!

what do i need to prepare!!

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QUOTE(kucingarab @ Mar 24 2006, 10:00 AM)
This is the schedule for 2006 that I have:

21 March
22 March
18 April
19 April
16 May
17 May

One SRD is happening today in KL ..., the April events will take place in Miri
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They still recruit ppl from Miri ? I am from there anyway. I thought Shell is phasing out from Miri sooner or later.
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hey i got phone interview appointed next monday  OMG!! WHAT CAN I DO!!!

what do i need to prepare!!
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read the paper.... LOL
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shell will stay in Miri for the next 100 years ... LOL
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They still recruit ppl from Miri ? I am from there anyway. I thought Shell is phasing out from Miri sooner or later.
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Yeah, must come early or your car will get roasted....
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How early is early?
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I got an invitation to join SRD for the 13th April batch but I couldn't make it and have it rescheduled for the May batch.
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David..when you fill the online quesstionaire at Shell website??
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David..when you fill the online quesstionaire at Shell website??
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Yes, I did. I filled both. One during the submission of the online resume and the other after I have been shortlisted from the first interview where Shell will be donating some money upon completing that survey/questionaire bla bla ...
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how long it takes from the moment you send your online resume to Shell until they invite you to the SRD eh? I just filled the online applications form last 2 weeks
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how long it takes from the moment you send your online resume to Shell until they invite you to the SRD eh? I just filled the online applications form last 2 weeks
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From the online submission, it took roughly 2-3 weeks before I was been called for the first interview.

Within a week, I got the result of the interview and they emailed that I'm qualified for SRD.

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are you sure they give you some money?? how much?? what is the exactly happen during the 1st interview?? just answering a bunch of questionnaires only eh? then you can go home?? no open ended interviews?
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are you sure they give you some money?? how much?? what is the exactly happen during the 1st interview?? just answering a bunch of questionnaires only eh? then you can go home?? no open ended interviews?
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I didn't say that they're giving me money. I said they're going to donate the money to some organizations for charity purpose or environmental awareness organization.

In the first interview which lasted for roughly one hour, they divided the session into 3 parts; administrative, leadership and finally case study.
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QUOTE(mushr00m @ Mar 18 2006, 12:27 PM)
hehehe... how about : SITI-ITIBCP101
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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Mar 18 2006, 12:29 PM)
wah, didnt know that so many TPC from Lowyat forum

Im from SITI-ITIBCP101 also, but I already converted to FTC already...
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 18 2006, 08:05 PM)
I am from SITI-ITIBDE4
still a TPC la....
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Mar 21 2006, 04:58 PM)
Wow so many people here are located in SITI.

Mine is SITI-ITEPDC
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Mine is SITI-ITIBDE4.

Good luck to everyone going for SRD. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(musangpulut @ Mar 28 2006, 03:32 PM)
how long it takes from the moment you send your online resume to Shell until they invite you to the SRD eh? I just filled the online applications form last 2 weeks
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I submitted the online application on 9th of March. So far, I only received an email asking me that whether I did go through their interview before or not.

Does it means my application failed d??

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QUOTE(wyien @ Mar 28 2006, 06:34 PM)
I submitted the online application on 9th of March. So far, I only received an email asking me that whether I did go through their interview before or not.

Does it means my application failed d??
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I guess no, but once you failed, I guess u have to wait another year before u apply. Not too sure about this rule though. Good luck.
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I guess no, but once you failed, I guess u have to wait another year before u apply. Not too sure about this rule though. Good luck.
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6 months or one year? Sorry I also forgotten ...
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6 months or one year? Sorry I also forgotten ...
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so......1 shot per year...... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 28 2006, 02:37 PM)
From the online submission, it took roughly 2-3 weeks before I was been called for the first interview.

Within a week, I got the result of the interview and they emailed that I'm qualified for SRD.
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QUOTE(wyien @ Mar 28 2006, 06:34 PM)
I submitted the online application on 9th of March. So far, I only received an email asking me that whether I did go through their interview before or not.

Does it means my application failed d??
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I submit my application on 4 January 2006.
Called for interview at Damansara on end of Feb.

But when I check on thier website just now, my Application Status still "Shortlisted"...
No email received since the interview at Damansara...

How? What happen?

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QUOTE(sheeeng @ Mar 29 2006, 09:10 AM)
I submit my application on 4 January 2006.
Called for interview at Damansara on end of Feb.

But when I check on thier website just now, my Application Status still "Shortlisted"...
No email received since the interview at Damansara...

How? What happen?
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Did you receive any emails after your interview indicated that you have been shortlisted and they're scheduling you for the upcoming SRD? If you're really curious and wondering, you can give them a call and I guess your first email has the contact numbers attached.
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How early is early?
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It depends which building you will be posted at. Wisma 1, you can come around 9+ and still get a parking in the basement. As for Wisma 2 then you need to come in before 9 to get a good parking in the basement.
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QUOTE(Mavik @ Mar 29 2006, 02:24 PM)
It depends which building you will be posted at. Wisma 1, you can come around 9+ and still get a parking in the basement. As for Wisma 2 then you need to come in before 9 to get a good parking in the basement.
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Kewl. I start on Monday at 9. I'm supposed to report to wisma 1

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Kewl. I start on Monday at 9. I'm supposed to report to wisma 1
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congrats dude biggrin.gif

Wisma 1 parking becoming more pack recently. hard to find parking d. sad.gif
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QUOTE(vyruz @ Mar 29 2006, 05:05 PM)
congrats dude biggrin.gif

Wisma 1 parking becoming more pack recently. hard to find parking d. sad.gif
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Thanks man. I'll be trying to come early to get a good space then. By the way, is there anywhere i can have breakfast near there after i park my car?
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Thanks man. I'll be trying to come early to get a good space then. By the way, is there anywhere i can have breakfast near there after i park my car?
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The only b'fast place surely be in Wisma 2... that is after you have parked your car... not quite sure about the food court next to Wisma 1, whether are they open early in the morning... haven't been to the food court for quite some time...
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QUOTE(icez @ Mar 30 2006, 12:32 AM)
Thanks man. I'll be trying to come early to get a good space then. By the way, is there anywhere i can have breakfast near there after i park my car?
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You're welcome dude.

QUOTE(mushr00m @ Mar 30 2006, 07:30 AM)
The only b'fast place surely be in Wisma 2... that is after you have parked your car... not quite sure about the food court next to Wisma 1, whether are they open early in the morning... haven't been to the food court for quite some time...
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Ya since u are based in Wisma 1, park your car either in B1 or B2, the take a lift to 2nd Floor, the you can walk to the right wing straight till the end, pass the bridge to go over to Wisma 2. Walk down to ground floor, head straight, pass by theatrette 1 & 2, turn left and you'll see the cafe. biggrin.gif

First day report in, you need to go to Wisma 1 ground floor to get a temporary pass, or else you wont be able to come in or even go to the cafe. biggrin.gif
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Add on to vyruz......

Nowadays they r quite strict.....

unless ur team lead had been settled all the card n stuff.....
else....the temporary visitor pass can jz allow u to access the front access onli....not even parking entrance or bridge door access...

therefore....for the first day....i m sorry...u cant park into basement.....u need to get ticket....then chop at counter before u leave...
or risk parking outside for kena saman.....


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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 30 2006, 05:46 PM)
Add on to vyruz......

Nowadays they r quite strict.....

unless ur team lead had been settled all the card n stuff.....
else....the temporary visitor pass can jz allow u to access the front access onli....not even parking entrance or bridge door access...

therefore....for the first day....i m sorry...u cant park into basement.....u need to get ticket....then chop at counter before u leave...
or risk parking outside for kena saman.....
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Thanks for the info guys. Its a bummer i can't use the temp pass to get to wisma 2 for breakfast. Looks like i'll have to find an alternative.
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QUOTE(icez @ Mar 31 2006, 08:02 PM)
Thanks for the info guys. Its a bummer i can't use the temp pass to get to wisma 2 for breakfast. Looks like i'll have to find an alternative.
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Well, it is not that you are not able to go to the cafe for b'fast, is just that you will be handle by a Training Coordinator to undergo some basic training stuff on your first week which they called "Onboarding"... They will eventually provide you with a tour of Wisma 1 and 2.. I have a new staff coming in as well on Monday..

You should be able to go to Wisma 2 for b'fast by the 2nd Day... and you also can bring your own food and in each floors in SITI has its own pantry and free flow of drinks (Milo, Nescafe, Tea)... provided you have to bring your own mug or flask..

There are also a Shell shop in Wisma 2 if you require some crackers, biscuits, canned and bottle drinks, souveniers, t-shirts, engine oil, etc..... but it would only be opened after 8am...

Good luck on your first day... Have fun... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(mushr00m @ Apr 1 2006, 12:34 PM)
Well, it is not that you are not able to go to the cafe for b'fast, is just that you will be handle by a Training Coordinator to undergo some basic training stuff on your first week which they called "Onboarding"... They will eventually provide you with a tour of Wisma 1 and 2.. I have a new staff coming in as well on Monday..

You should be able to go to Wisma 2 for b'fast by the 2nd Day... and you also can bring your own food and in each floors in SITI has its own pantry and free flow of drinks (Milo, Nescafe, Tea)... provided you have to bring your own mug or flask..

There are also a Shell shop in Wisma 2 if you require some crackers, biscuits, canned and bottle drinks, souveniers, t-shirts, engine oil, etc..... but it would only be opened after 8am...

Good luck on your first day... Have fun...  rclxms.gif
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Thanks for correcting. Do you work lar Dino... lol  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 09:00 PM)
I guess this thread has become a Shell Lounge thread. sweat.gif
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Gah, suppose to start work on monday 17th April but still no reply from shell. anyone here is knows what are my job scopes? Operational Assurance Analyst?

Should i just come on the 17th and report for duty?
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I heard that Shell will prepare everything for you. Guess no need to worry. You'll be notified or updated soon I think.
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QUOTE(havenzhiv @ Apr 2 2006, 11:58 PM)
Gah, suppose to start work on monday 17th April but still no reply from shell. anyone here is knows what are my job scopes? Operational Assurance Analyst?

Should i just come on the 17th and report for duty?
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jz report urself on that day.....

ur job ma.......not very sure le.....sound so like QA 1...... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mushr00m @ Apr 1 2006, 12:34 PM)
Well, it is not that you are not able to go to the cafe for b'fast, is just that you will be handle by a Training Coordinator to undergo some basic training stuff on your first week which they called "Onboarding"... They will eventually provide you with a tour of Wisma 1 and 2.. I have a new staff coming in as well on Monday..

You should be able to go to Wisma 2 for b'fast by the 2nd Day... and you also can bring your own food and in each floors in SITI has its own pantry and free flow of drinks (Milo, Nescafe, Tea)... provided you have to bring your own mug or flask..

There are also a Shell shop in Wisma 2 if you require some crackers, biscuits, canned and bottle drinks, souveniers, t-shirts, engine oil, etc..... but it would only be opened after 8am...

Good luck on your first day... Have fun...  rclxms.gif
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To be honest, I see those Shell shirts in the shop every day and I always wonder who would buy them tongue.gif

At least the items in the shop isn't that overpriced.
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i would i guess, ahahaha
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Some shell shirts are given based on events/project etc, but I do know some ppl go buy it from shell shop biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(vyruz @ Apr 4 2006, 06:12 AM)
Some shell shirts are given based on events/project etc, but I do know some ppl go buy it from shell shop biggrin.gif
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ya.....nampak.....hehehe.....

sometimes i wonder wanna buy too.....

but.....nah.......
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seriously i would!!!
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nope....i won...unless i need it.....

em....i was thinkin for getting another sweater/jacket
em....not necessary 1 la....so won rush....
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ahahahahaha!!!!!i will be reporting at wisma 1 on the 17th April 2006, anyone wanna buy me coffee?
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ahahahahaha!!!!!i will be reporting at wisma 1 on the 17th April 2006, anyone wanna buy me coffee?
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i thought newcomer should buy us coffee instead? tongue.gif
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i thought newcomer should buy us coffee instead? tongue.gif
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ummm yeah, belanja me coffee please
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ummm yeah, belanja me coffee please
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so, ummmmm, anyone working the position i am in?Operational Assurance Analyst?
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to all that are working in shell already, whats the atire there?monday need to wear a tie?
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Anything but shorts and singlet hahahah tongue.gif

Although you will see people in those attire especially those coming out from the Gym haha biggrin.gif
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Anyway, coming to the original topic, anyone from here attending SRD on Thursday the 13th?

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good, so i can to work wearing a padini shirt then ekekekekek
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QUOTE(havenzhiv @ Apr 10 2006, 01:50 AM)
to all that are working in shell already, whats the atire there?monday need to wear a tie?
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That's the question I have been seeking an answer.

I am one of the candidates that will attend their interview on 24th of April. Venue: Bangunan Shell at Damansara.

Now, I know that wearing a tie will be the best assurance but I tend not to overdo myself. So, can someone help a brother right here.

Cheers.
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during SRd, wear a tie but dont overdo it with a coat and stuff, be relax, working shirt, tie, long pants will do it
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Wearing a tie to an interview or something similar doesn't portray that you're overdoing your appearance and self-presentation.
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i've submitted my application online on the 8th of april...
and my status now is shortlisted...

still waiting for their call for interview...

have to wait how long ler... if i ever get called, anyone has any pointers for me?

thanks.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(cywings @ Apr 14 2006, 03:01 AM)
i've submitted my application online on the 8th of april...
and my status now is shortlisted...

still waiting for their call for interview...

have to wait how long ler... if i ever get called, anyone has any pointers for me?

thanks..  notworthy.gif
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It depends ... it may be fast and it may goes the other way round. Should be within a week.
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just got a call from them...my interview is next week...
damn i'm excited bout it yet a lil bit nervous.. how!!!??

any advise?
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HI guys

Im already secured a job at Perodua and just now got call from Shell to come to damansara this monday...uuughhhhh..should I go??This is a 1st stage interview rite?? just fill up the question papers and dat all??
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can someone here show me how to go to the Shell hq at damansara?? I looked in their website but cant found any map..Im from Shah Alam..how to go there from federal highway eh?? tq
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just got a call from them...my interview is next week...
damn i'm excited bout it yet a lil bit nervous.. how!!!??

any advise?
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QUOTE(musangpulut @ Apr 14 2006, 04:51 PM)
HI guys

Im already secured a job at Perodua and just now got call from Shell to come to damansara this monday...uuughhhhh..should I go??This is a 1st stage interview rite?? just fill up the question papers and dat all??
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Good luck to you too. Go for it. Don't worry as there's no question papers for your to answer. It's purely interview to know you better in term of your values, skills and capabilities.
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QUOTE(musangpulut @ Apr 14 2006, 05:14 PM)
can someone here show me how to go to the Shell hq at damansara?? I looked in their website but cant found any map..Im from Shah Alam..how to go there from federal highway eh??  tq
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you know pusat bandar damansara?its there
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you know pusat bandar damansara?its there
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Also known as Damansara Heights. There have a plenty number of government buildings.
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wah so many views in this thread. havent read all but from the geist of it...i can say if anyone of u wud is going for SRD, you can find out about the info here
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- advantage n disadvantage of transportation (thru phone)
- adv n disadvantage of prison
n yup..they wanna see how u think..not just locally but from global pov
so wish u all the best wink.gif
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How come all of you got phone interviews but i didnt?Seems strange, in my opinion of coz but what the heck, i'm reporting in this coming monday.

Anyway, to the rest of you, good luck and wish to meet you when you finally join in.
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QUOTE(havenzhiv @ Apr 16 2006, 02:44 AM)
How come all of you got phone interviews but i didnt?Seems strange, in my opinion of coz but what the heck, i'm reporting in this coming monday.

Anyway, to the rest of you, good luck and wish to meet you when you finally join in.
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Well, I don't have phone interview. I only received a call to schedule for a face-to-face interview.
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Shell Recruitment Day is meant to be final selection of HIGH POTENTIAL graduates. If successful the candidates are offered a permanent position in Shell and their career is carefully managed during their first years of employment.

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QUOTE(Polishman @ Apr 16 2006, 12:42 PM)
Shell Recruitment Day is meant to be final selection of HIGH POTENTIAL graduates. If successful the candidates are offered a permanent position in Shell and their career is carefully managed during their first years of employment.
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That is always the case. Don't argue - I know better.


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chicken and waffle!!!!!!!!
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LOL... So nice to have chicken and waffles wink.gif
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Why suddenly have food?
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I wanted to ask too, I thought here suppose to be SRD related or at least SHELL related question/discussion??? Makes me hungry...
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The discussion has been diverted to other stuffs ... such as life at Shell, SITI and etc.
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just attended a 1st interview at shell dis morning...fuhh a full 45 minutes...questions among others:

1) tell me a lil about your background

2)what is your highest non-acedemic achiement?? can you elaborate it in detail?

3)do u ever encounter a person who resist to change??how do u overcome them??

4) all regarding prison

te result will be known in 5 workings day....


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so, anyone here from application hosting?

by the way?what time is the shuttle bus departs from kj lrt station and which is the bus?

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guys.. i went for interview at shell house damansara last month.. i've been waiting but no reply from them.. until last week i got their email saying i fail the interview.. but today they call me..said i pass the interview and invite me to the SRD this coming 11th may.. I'm a little blur of this now.. dunno should feel happy or sad.. hahah... any1 hav any comment on this? ::blur::
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You should be thrilled and be prepared for SRD. I might be meeting on that day; not so sure since I have rescheduled my SRD to May.
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david83.. u going?
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david83.. u going?
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its definitely worth the effort to excel in the SRD. i am glad i was the lucky one.
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Which area in SRD?
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hey guys..actually i oledi accept another offer..
should i go for SRD as well le? maybe jz gain experience
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Why not?You'll gain experience and if you manage to get into Shell, all i can say is,job well done. Its the job that you will feel you wont be working anywhere else, i'm just a lil over a week here, eventhough i work until sometimes 8 pm, i like it. The pay you get, the diversity you'll get as a someone from Graduate Programme, the benefits, the career path, the learning curves, the experience and much more is extrodinaire.

In shell even if you are IT base, doesnt mean IT is the only path for you, i maybe based in SITI now but i'll never know where will i be in 5 or maybe 2 years time.

One of the IT team leader here doesnt even have a degree in IT. He was actually from Shell EP (if you must know, its the company that explore and find hydrocarbon deposits in the earth where the money is) with a degree in geology but his passion in IT put him here after 5 years.

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I'm applying for a postition in SITI.
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Message sent to me by Shell SITI people;
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Dear Fiecks84,

Could you please remove (or edit) the content of your message related to Shell Recruitment Day? Shell is doing whatever it can to get the candidates assessed fair and square - treat everyone equal.

Giving so much information is unfair to the new candidates that are being recruited and also unfair to you, as I'm sure you weren't given any unfair help before you attended Shell Recruitment Day. Now for these who found your information the process wouldn't be objective anymore.

I'm one of the assessors and take a significant role in the final selection. It is making my and my collegues work very difficult.

Again, at this stage it is just a friendly request.

I would really appreciate your cooperation on this matter... Please give everyone an equal chance.

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People in Shell ask me 2 clear all d info...
I guess, it is a limited time info... that I can provide....
n it's expired already...
So, I think, that's d only time available 4 u guyz ...
If U guyz need/require info, do Y!M me or PM me...
I think that way is better...
It is their top level info... (may be)
They monitor this forum!
Ok, see u guyz!
I wish u guys a good luck

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Shell look at the perfect candidate, but what if
the candidate act so good in the SRD day?
Will they get the best candidate after all?
Sometimes, mistake is normal, but
if we can learn from the mistake and
improve it, they should not take / recruit
a perferct candidate but
a candidate that willing to learn and stand by thier own
n flexible! Yeah... philosophy!
aha, why do not they recruit... xxxxx?
Am I give d opportunity to d future candidate
be a good actor? in their SRD?
by writing the details inside this forum?
Yeah.... may be!

OK... it is my intrepretation!
Again, life must be go on... Never give up! Continue learning
n look at d positive side!

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jz back from SRD today..
is great to have such an opp from SHELL..
anyway.. even if i didn get thru it.. i wont regret for attending SRD..
great experience there..
(although i was wondering b4 should i go for it tongue.gif)
good luck for those being invited for next month SRD
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There's another batch at the end of this Month (30th May).
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ahahaha that was funny
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What was that funny?

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Excuse me, what's the hilarious topic being discussed?
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this...but not to offend the poster...nor in a mean way...its just funny.......
hope to see you guys soon at SITI

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Wondering why this thread is being monitored ... it's just a little thread in an open forum. sleep.gif
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well probably because shell has their own business principles
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Don't say that those information (posted) are considered as trade/business secrets ...
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but Shell is an "equal opportunity employers". and since this is an open forum, not everyone attending SRD reading this. Thus some ppl have preparation and some not. IMO, its just unfair to those who did not know bout this forum & this thread.


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Just wondering.. does this recruitment day apply to interns as well?

Also, has anyone interned at Shell before and how were their experiences?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(David83 @ May 17 2006, 11:52 PM)
Don't say that those information (posted) are considered as trade/business secrets ...
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It's no good if instead of high potentials you would get the averages that learnt stuff from the web.

Anyway - good luck on Tuesday...




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I'm Back...
Anyway, for those have the opportunity to attend the SRD,
do ur best... and, based on my experience and
others (which still keep in touch with me),
the format n the material is still SAME...
That's why, the info that I posted earlier
consider as sensitive... It's not a business info
Juz the recruitment day info...
U guys can talk to me (Y!M or MSN)... at least, this make us different
from other candidate, we do search the info
n get prepared, not just stay at the home n relax
For those who put on effort, so, u get extra info!
I believe in it! U have the effort, U get it...

Smart People Don't Stop At The Middle
They Walk or Run Till The End
Towards The Success! gOOd luck guyz!

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I hope you keep that information to yourself. Sharing your experience is ok but the knowledge of it (procedures and material) is not. Anyway, that's what briefing are for. I hope you understand this fieck84.

It is not fair for others. I didnt get help, and i made it fair and square. So i believe that others should be the same as me.

SRD is a phase to test whether are you a shell person or not. Preparing ONLY for SRD does not make you a shell person. It is a challenge by itself being in shell.

To pass SRD you need to be a shell person(i'm repeating this). I can show you the path to be a shell person but not more.

Anyway, peace out

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ok... i share my experience, not the materials
easy rite! so, not too worry!
Sit back n relax! I delete all the info
previously rite. I dunno if u still worry

Hope U understand also!
Nice to know u! smile.gif
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Hi all,

I pass my first interview in January and received an email saying that i'm shortlisted for SRD, however, untill now, i haven't heard anything from Shell yet.

Do you guys know who should i contact to check with this matter?

I tried to call the person who interviewed me during the first interview, she promised to check for me but still I haven't received any news T_T.

Anyone can help?

thanks in advance
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if you are shortlisted then you are shortlisted, dont worry about it, shell will definitely call you

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if you are shortlisted then you are shortlisted, dont worry about it, shell will definitely call you
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do you have any idea who should i check with regarding this?
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A little off topic here, just wondering if theres anyone from shell house damansara here?Ill be starting work there soon, im worried about parking..Any tips where to park cheap?
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Woah tough man, the parking there is friggin expensive. Well consider yourself lucky that you are not trying to park in KLCC instead tongue.gif
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Got vacancies for Bachelor Of IT (Hons) Communication and Networking?
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go to http://www.shell.com/careers to see if any job opening suitable for you.

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May i know, how many interview stages a candidate have to pass to be successfully recruite by shell?

I thought Shell Recruitment Day is the Final selection process, but I heard my friend said there is about 4 stages...


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Hmm once youve passed the SRD probably there will be a get to know you sort of interview by your potential future employer.Basically to tell you about the job you will be offered and to answer any questions you might have..and if all goes well
Thats it, your in! rclxms.gif
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As far as I know, it's only 3 stages. The SRD is the crucial stage ...
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I am just wondering if there's anyone here who got called for the F2F interview straight away without having to go through Phone interview?

I received an email (after applying through the website), which the title is : "Appointment Invitation for Employment".

And I called the person up (the one they specify on the email), asking why I have the option of either phone OR F2F interview. She said phone interview is for people who can't take a leave from their current job. While those who can, it's advisable to go through F2F.

When I apply, I was also requested (via a follow-up email) to send them my Degree Cert and other stuff.

FYI, I have 1 year working in the UK (graduated in UK too) and I recently came back (two weeks ago).

Anyone has been through this (weird) process before? From what I read here, it seems that Shell has an organized way of doing the recruitment?

Have they change this recently? (due to LYN? tongue.gif )
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My guess is those are just preliminary stage to determine if you possess the CAR thing. If you have them, you might be called for the Recruitment Day.

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QUOTE(duffifie @ Sep 9 2006, 08:48 AM)
I am just wondering if there's anyone here who got called for the F2F interview straight away without having to go through Phone interview?

I received an email (after applying through the website), which the title is : "Appointment Invitation for Employment".

And I called the person up (the one they specify on the email), asking why I have the option of either phone OR F2F interview. She said phone interview is for people who can't take a leave from their current job. While those who can, it's advisable to go through F2F.

When I apply, I was also requested (via a follow-up email) to send them my Degree Cert and other stuff.

FYI, I have 1 year working in the UK (graduated in UK too) and I recently came back (two weeks ago).

Anyone has been through this (weird) process before? From what I read here, it seems that Shell has an organized way of doing the recruitment?

Have they change this recently? (due to LYN?  tongue.gif )
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For the first interview, its EITHER a phone or F2F interview, you are undergoing the normal process, nothing special.

If you pass this interview then only SRD, you didn't get SRD straight away, I think you are confused about SRD and 1st interview.
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After you have passed the one-to-one interview (either F2F or phone) you will proceed to the SRD.

In the SRD, if you pass - you will be shortlisted for employment smile.gif
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A little off topic here, just wondering if theres anyone from shell house damansara here?Ill be starting work there soon, im worried about parking..Any tips where to park cheap?
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Is it covered by Shell, or it isn't?
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Don't just ask like this. Do some research/study
go to http://www.shell.com/careers to see if any job opening suitable for you.

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if u dun mind working outstation, and are accounting/finance student.. sarawak shell in miri is recruiting lots of ppl for both accounting/finance.. not sure bout other departments
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Sep 12 2006, 09:42 PM)
After you have passed the one-to-one interview (either F2F or phone) you will proceed to the SRD.

In the SRD, if you pass - you will be shortlisted for employment smile.gif
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Even you succeeded in SRD, you will not be offered for employment immediately. They will look for suitable position that meets your criteria and it may take two to three months.

QUOTE(Blurmarine @ Sep 12 2006, 10:31 PM)
SRD if not an easy 1.. challenging
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I'm totally agreed with this.

QUOTE(icez @ Sep 12 2006, 10:52 PM)
I'm also looking for cheap parking in the area...anyone knows any?
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I'm not sure if they got reimburse you on the parking fee.

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 12 2006, 11:59 PM)
Even you succeeded in SRD, you will not be offered for employment immediately. They will look for suitable position that meets your criteria and it may take two to three months.
I'm totally agreed with this.
I'm not sure if they got reimburse you on the parking fee.
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They don't reimburse for toll and parking fees. My friend got through SRD, but there seem to be no opening in Electrical Engineering, so he has to wait la. They say may be until next year. rclxub.gif shocking.gif
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shucks...I just got a call for 1st interview. It's tomorrow morning.
But, I was offered phone interview eventually since I can't take a day off...

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Hey a phone interview is just as good as any other interview as well. A lot of my bosses conduct phone interviews here especially if they are interviewing a person based overseas.
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hi all,

it seems that after reading the forum, still im not clear on what is going to be asked on shell recruitment day ? Care to tell what will happen or asked on shell recruitment day ?

is it the same as the phone interview or more harder ? also have a contemporary topic that will be ask as well ? thanks.

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It's not same as the phone interview; I'm referring to the questions asked.
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alrite, but if not that question, what kind of questions can be expected ? maybe anyone here who has already been through SRD, please do share with us the scenarios given or any questions that has been given.....thanks
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I don't people are dare to dislose openly what're in the SRD; more specifically on the questions asked.

SRD has three portions; individual presentation, group presentation and business case scenario.
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i agree with you,

but the thing is do you think that by giving an example question will means that person will pass SRD ? Even if you tell me the exact questions, it all depends on the interviewer to judge a person(they have all the time in the world to challenge your answers...which is the part whereby tips or resources cant be found) It only helps one to say or plan what they should say, but when they go to real situations, a lot of unforseen things can happen !

besides, HR can always come out with new questions that exposes
others areas of skills in a person...that is their job

it also depends on the other candidate who are attending that SRD. Doesnt mean that once a person have tips or resources, they will pass. I doubt that shell will be giving out same questions...it's all very dynamic, not stagnant...i mean if any of those leadership team sees this, they will agree.

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The marking criteria is very subjective and depends on the accessor.

Regarding the questions, I'm not sure if they revamp the questions.
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anyone here who goes for the shell geaduate programme, if given 3 fileds under the shell group, which field(example : IT, Procurement, HR, Business Analysis, Finance, Sales & Marketing) would you choose and why ? Thanks for the feedback
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I have apply the SHELL Internship program few days ago.

Today just get an e-mail frm SHELL.

They ask me provide detail of my curricular activities during high school and university.

Should i describe it in essay form or point form ?
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anyone here who goes for the shell geaduate programme, if given 3 fileds under the shell group, which field(example : IT, Procurement, HR, Business Analysis, Finance, Sales & Marketing)  would you choose and why ? Thanks for the feedback
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What kind of programme is this?
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ooppss, shell graduate programme...
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QUOTE(howeijie @ Oct 21 2006, 05:22 PM)
I have apply the SHELL Internship program few days ago.

Today just get an e-mail frm SHELL.

They ask me provide detail of my curricular activities during high school and university.

Should i describe it in essay form or point form ?
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of course shud b in point form. Just the way u wrote ur resume.

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Thank for you info

I just submit my extra info for my resume to SHELL
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Hello to all the brother and sister who work for SHELL rite now :

I just receive the e-mail to confirm my internship program interview in SHELL.

They are doing phone call interview, do i need to prepare anything before i start my interview with the interviewer using phone call ?
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QUOTE(howeijie @ Oct 26 2006, 04:49 PM)
Hello to all the brother and sister who work for SHELL rite now :

I just receive the e-mail to confirm my internship program interview in SHELL.

They are doing phone call interview, do i need to prepare anything before i start my interview with the interviewer using phone call ?
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Can give me more details after your interview, i also looking for intership with shell. You apply online ? When is your intership period ? ERm, if you dont mind can i know your cgpa range... hehe.
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I will going on next year March until July.

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How was the pay / allowance for internship student at SHELL
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My friend did his ITP at Shell PD. He got RM500 per month.
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Wonder is it tought to secure an intership with shell. sigh
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My friend did his ITP at Shell PD. He got RM500 per month.
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Opps ... sorry. To used with my university acronyms.

Yes, it means internship.
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Quite good pay compare with other company.
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good future too. high pay
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Today i get the interview question just same as the question post here previously
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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 27 2006, 11:45 PM)
My friend did his ITP at Shell PD. He got RM500 per month.
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RM500 is average in the market today. Some companies pay by day. RM25 per day biggrin.gif
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anyone here is waiting fir the next SRD ????? anyone ??? when is the next SRD...hmmmm....
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U are doing internship, this is allowance only NOT your salary.

Some company have the right no need to pay for any allowance for internship student.
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U are doing internship, this is allowance only  NOT your salary.

Some company have the right no need to pay for any allowance for internship student.
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SITI will not be recruiting any grads this year since they have fullfill their quota, next recruitment is next year.
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I guess that SITI is one the companies of shell group....I believe shell recruitment day(SRD) will still be on going....no SITI, also got Shell Global Solutions, Exploration & Production, Shell Trading, Shell People Services...and so on.

anyone here got any news that they are invited to SRD ???? icon_rolleyes.gif
please do tell, alrite ? smile.gif

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I guess that SITI is one the companies of shell group....I believe shell recruitment day(SRD) will still be on going....no SITI, also got Shell Global Solutions, Exploration & Production, Shell Trading, Shell People Services...and so on.

anyone here got any news that they are invited to SRD ????  icon_rolleyes.gif
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If I am not wrong the downstream section of Shell is trying to lay back staff so I guess that SRD for those groups may not occur too often. Only the E&P side is hiring.
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Nov 3 2006, 02:24 PM)
I guess that SITI is one the companies of shell group....I believe shell recruitment day(SRD) will still be on going....no SITI, also got Shell Global Solutions, Exploration & Production, Shell Trading, Shell People Services...and so on.

anyone here got any news that they are invited to SRD ????  icon_rolleyes.gif
please do tell, alrite ? smile.gif
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SITI is their IT arm.. providing support for the IT stuff etc..

E&P is in miri .. if u r willing to travel, the pay there is quite good and the work there quite laid back smile.gif
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hi Hikari,

how's the pay in E&P in Miri ? are u working in shell ? hhmmmm, seems that nobody here apply srd ?
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hi all,

nice reading this thread as got lotsa info on shell, well, Shell always a nice place to work, heard their benefits is good. but how come no one mention the salary range of shell.

basically, i am a IT degree grad with 5 year experience. now looking for other job. got a few question to ask about Shell. hope anyone can help me on this, thanks.

1. What is the salary range for a person like me? Prefer IT job with 5 year exp?

2. How many months of bonus does shell offer, (min to max). does it based on performance?

3. Is working a IT job in shell have prospect? as Shell is a oil company?

4. The Data center was located in cyberjaya right? how is the enviroment there?

5. What is the other benefit shell offer to the employees? (days of AL, medical, allowance...)

6. Does Shell recruit thru Job agency only? does shell do the normal recruiting ?

thank you everyone !!!
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Hello

Does anybody know when will be the next SRD?

I got shorlisted for the SRD, but they haven't told me when will that be, just wondering if anybody in Shell knows about the SRD schedule.

Another question's also wondering me.I m Malaysian and currently working in Singapore .I applied for the graduate position through Singapore Shell website.isn't it supposingly I will be interviewed by Shell Singapore?How come the person who interviewed me is from kl? Would that mean that the SRD I'll be attending will be held in Malaysia?


Appreciate for your answers.
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hi bonebonebone,

KL is the HR processing for Asia. The are in charge for all of asia...and yes, you need to attend srd in KL, are you a fresh grad ?
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QUOTE(Dern @ Nov 13 2006, 05:19 AM)
hi bonebonebone,

    KL is the HR processing for Asia. The are in charge for all of asia...and yes, you need to attend srd in KL, are you a fresh grad ?
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Ic.Thanks for the info.It's normally a 3 days event for the SRD rite?It would be great if you can roughly tell me when will the SRD happen excalty in kl. Coz it's better for me to plan for taking leave.

Not really a fresh, I have around one year working experience in IT.


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QUOTE(bonebonebone @ Nov 13 2006, 07:22 AM)
Hi Dern

Ic.Thanks for the info.It's normally a 3 days event for the SRD rite?It would be great if you can roughly tell me when will the SRD happen excalty in kl. Coz it's better for me to plan for taking leave.

Not really a fresh, I have around one year working experience in IT.
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Hi bonebonebone

Its seems you past the first interview. Could you share your experience?
I will have first interview next week. I have no idea about for the interview, except information from this forum. Could you email me: bbloemann@yahoo.com, or any body willing help? please email me.
I wanna ask some question.
have you succses with the SRD? Could you share?

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QUOTE(sinner @ Nov 6 2006, 10:49 AM)
hi all,

nice reading this thread as got lotsa info on shell, well, Shell always a nice place to work, heard their benefits is good. but how come no one mention the salary range of shell.

basically, i am a IT degree grad with 5 year experience. now looking for other job. got a few question to ask about Shell. hope anyone can help me on this, thanks.

1. What is the salary range for a person like me? Prefer IT job with 5 year exp?

2. How many months of bonus does shell offer, (min to max). does it based on performance?

3. Is working a IT job in shell have prospect? as Shell is a oil company?

4. The Data center was located in cyberjaya right? how is the enviroment there?

5. What is the other benefit shell offer to the employees? (days of AL, medical, allowance...)

6. Does Shell recruit thru Job agency only? does shell do the normal recruiting ?

thank you everyone !!!
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Note the below description is for permanent staff only. Shell IT is currently recruiting majority as third party contractors only.

1. Depends what you're currently getting and the position you're applying for. They will normally only top up 200-500 from your current basic but throw in lots of allowances.

2. 2 months contract + performance (about another 1-2 months).

3. Beware the outsourcing study.....

4. There's a gym, foosball, and billiards.....

5. 15 days AL, 3% extra EPF (4% next year), 100% subsidy for medical claims, shift allowance, pager allowance, housing allowance. Can come to > 1k.

6. Yes to normal recruiting, but that's normally for managerial positions.

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ANY ONE KNOW fiecks84 email address?
would you share to me please


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Message sent to me by Shell SITI people;
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Dear Fiecks84,

Could you please remove (or edit) the content of your message related to Shell Recruitment Day? Shell is doing whatever it can to get the candidates assessed fair and square - treat everyone equal.

Giving so much information is unfair to the new candidates that are being recruited and also unfair to you, as I'm sure you weren't given any unfair help before you attended Shell Recruitment Day. Now for these who found your information the process wouldn't be objective anymore.

I'm one of the assessors and take a significant role in the final selection. It is making my and my collegues work very difficult.

Again, at this stage it is just a friendly request.

I would really appreciate your cooperation on this matter... Please give everyone an equal chance.

Best Regards,
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People in Shell ask me 2 clear all d info...
I guess, it is a limited time info... that I can provide....
n it's expired already...
So, I think, that's d only time available 4 u guyz ...
If U guyz need/require info, do Y!M me or PM me...
I think that way is better...
It is their top level info... (may be)
They monitor this forum!
Ok, see u guyz!
I wish u guys a good luck

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Shell look at the perfect candidate, but what if
the candidate act so good in the SRD day?
Will they get the best candidate after all?
Sometimes, mistake is normal, but
if we can learn from the mistake and
improve it, they should not take / recruit
a perferct candidate but
a candidate that willing to learn and stand by thier own
n flexible! Yeah... philosophy!
aha, why do not they recruit... xxxxx?
Am I give d opportunity to d future candidate
be a good actor? in their SRD?
by writing the details inside this forum?
Yeah.... may be!

OK... it is my intrepretation!
Again, life must be go on... Never give up! Continue learning
n look at d positive side!
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those who working in shell, mind to share your point of view? is it worth to work as contractor in shell for a period of time (say 12/18 months) then see if they want to convert you to permenent or looking for another job?

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I'm getting a phone interview very very soon, is there any advise? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(vicfirth @ Dec 14 2006, 11:28 PM)
those who working in shell, mind to share your point of view? is it worth to work as contractor in shell for a period of time (say 12/18 months) then see if they want to convert you to permenent or looking for another job?
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Worthy of work is a very subjective term, and must be compared in relative to other companies. I have not worked for another company out there and hence my analysis may be incredible - please take it with a pinch of salt.

Based on my observation, Shell generally takes care of their staff correctly irregardless whether you're a contractor or permanent staff, but obviously there'll be additional development perks for permanent staffs. This is perfectly normal, as the philosophy of staff development should depends on your principal company - only Malaysia labour contracting companies tends to get this wrong most of the time.

Most of my friends are contractors in Shell, and yes they do complain - but the complaints are usually on a smaller scale as compared to their previous companies. Here again it becomes relative...

Work culture here is challenging but rewarding. The trend may encourage you to work hard, overtime and under stress often, but there's at least a corporate will to ensure your work life balance is achieved.

SRD, just do your best! The structure of SRD can be found on Shell/Career websites. Don't prepare yourself for anything besides a phychological workout, and the tips provided on the website. You can't achieve anything in the SRD by burning overnight and it's best that you get rest and focus that's required for this day.
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Just finish the 1st interview thru phone.

Supposed to last for like 45mins but mine finish in 37mins.

Is this good or bad?
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I just join in SHELL this month. rcv my first month salary. and what i can only say is, working with SHELL is damn super nice!!!!
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QUOTE(Chester @ Jan 5 2007, 06:07 PM)
Just finish the 1st interview thru phone.

Supposed to last for like 45mins but mine finish in 37mins.

Is this good or bad?
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Judgement by finished time isn't a good comparison. What does matter will be the content of the interview ... good luck for you.
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just apply on shell..but not sure lor....coz i got 2 years exp...only some not related to tht field at all....cpga not good.
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 28 2007, 12:42 PM)
just apply on shell..but not sure lor....coz i got 2 years exp...only some not related to tht field at all....cpga not good.
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Don't worry ... as long as you have the CAR-T criteria that they're looking at, then you'll be given a chance in the SRD. Even you're not technicially qualified, I'm sure training will be provided in order to fit you in their organization.
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can i know what is 'CAR-T criteria' that you mentioned?
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can i know what is 'CAR-T criteria' that you mentioned?
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I cannot remember much on the details but CAR-T stands for:

C- capacity
A- achievement
R- -relationship
T- technical

Sorry ... just got this from their website

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Capacity: You'll need to bring the intellectual, analytical and creative ability to learn quickly, identify issues, make judgements and propose solutions

Achievement: We'll expect plenty of enthusiasm, resilience and confidence - you'll be someone who can always get things done

Relationship skills: You should have the character and ability to work effectively with others in a diverse team

Technical skills: Understanding and approaching technical issues coupled with an enthusiasm for technical challenge.


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Anyone know when is the SRD for this year 2007?
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smile.gif Hi, anyone been through the SRD recently? How did it go?
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anyone had any SRD lately ???? please do share....
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It's nothing to share about SRD. The format is still the same ... perhaps the contents might change since we have a lot of leakages here. biggrin.gif
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watever changed, core is still there....
jz work ur best out....and don jz stick to the wall....

Over the hedge..... ;-)
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i already done F2F interview at Shell Cyberjaya last week on 21 feb..
now watting for the result...
how long we have to wait for the result??
damn cuak sia.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
i all the way from singapore come there for the sick of interview...
hope i hv the LUCK rolleyes.gif
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I flunked their phone interview last month. Keep drifting off topic, end up 37mins already finish the conversation. Still hoping they'll call me up else im gonna give it a try again next year.
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QUOTE(didie @ Feb 27 2007, 05:38 PM)
i already done F2F interview at Shell Cyberjaya last week on 21 feb..
now watting for the result...
how long we have to wait for the result??
damn cuak sia.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
i all the way from singapore come there for the sick of interview...
hope i hv the LUCK  rolleyes.gif
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From Singapore? SGD dont make, wanna make MYR? You sure ah?
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From Singapore? SGD dont make, wanna make MYR? You sure ah?
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here cost of living very high sia..
cannot effort at all.. cry.gif
hv to thing twise..(rent+transport+food) sweat.gif
my salary below 1500 where can tahan mah!! sad.gif
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to working in shell, must thinking from outside box. cannot be deadpan (seisei panpan)

i always telling my junior thats.
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rule of thumb.....

think out of the rules.....

although u need to obey them... biggrin.gif

key here is.....

current rules or procedure might not be the best 1....

if u could think out of it...and challenge with a better idea...

then u had proven urself there
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Hi everyone, may I know if there are different payscales for different job functions in Shell?

Some positions may be paying much more than the rests after five years.
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if u offered 3rd party contract job in shell, but then u turn down. then few month down to road, u want to go back to shell cz the position still available, u think shell still want u ar?
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hi everyone, can anyone comfirm that shell is in the middle of outsourcing the entire operation of SITI?

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 6 2007, 06:07 PM)
hi everyone, can anyone comfirm that shell is in the middle of outsourcing the entire operation of SITI?
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why???
does it has anything to do with u??
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Maybe sukhoi35mk is trying to apply to SITI.
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Maybe sukhoi35mk is trying to apply to SITI.
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hahaa....just wondering shall i join SITI or their vendor... tongue.gif tongue.gif ...

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 7 2007, 09:20 AM)
hahaa....just wondering shall i join SITI or their vendor... tongue.gif  tongue.gif ...
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either case,

u still work for Shell tongue.gif

jz be as their staff or vendor's staff.... biggrin.gif

and no worries as well....

as not many vendor out there would hav the ability to manage such a huge chunk

so....if outsource, the vendor must be some major company....

u won feel disappointed to be as part of them i believe....
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Reporting to shell soon... anyone living in cyberia?
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nope... not in cyberia.....
i don even know any SITI staff stay in cyberia....(those i know)
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 12 2006, 11:59 PM)
Even you succeeded in SRD, you will not be offered for employment immediately. They will look for suitable position that meets your criteria and it may take two to three months.
I'm totally agreed with this.
I'm not sure if they got reimburse you on the parking fee.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 7 2007, 10:22 PM)
nope... not in cyberia.....
i don even know any SITI staff stay in cyberia....(those i know)
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Then where does SITI staff normally stay at? I currently at Cyberia.. This place is hell..
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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 8 2007, 02:51 PM)
Then where does SITI staff normally stay at? I currently at Cyberia.. This place is hell..
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we stay at home ..... tongue.gif

haha no la.....depends.....
from everywhere.....
klang, PJ, Puchong, Balakong, Sungai Long, Cheras, KL, Ampang, Seremban, Serdang....etc....

but almost all driving....i mean not all...but a lot la....

so car park always full if u come late....

btw....welcome to Shell IT Cyberjaya.....

hope u going to enjoy here.... biggrin.gif
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hhhmmmm, wonder which dept in SITI got outsource hor ? all all together of SITI will be outsourced ?
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i wonder where this outsource thing u all heard from.......
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ddint you read the postings before this page ??? blink.gif

QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 9 2007, 08:05 AM)
i wonder where this outsource thing u all heard from.......
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Mar 6 2007, 06:07 PM)
hi everyone, can anyone comfirm that shell is in the middle of outsourcing the entire operation of SITI?
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Mar 9 2007, 08:22 AM)
ddint you read the postings before this page ???  blink.gif
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so....sukhoi saying it....u listen it.....

any source to prove it????
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that's why i put "i wonder" whistling.gif and i think there's not just sukhoi...the beginning page also got i think, anyway, what's your point ??? blink.gif

QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 9 2007, 11:11 AM)
so....sukhoi saying it....u listen it.....

any source to prove it????
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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 8 2007, 02:51 PM)
Then where does SITI staff normally stay at? I currently at Cyberia.. This place is hell..
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Are u already work in SHELL now ? Then what department u working for ?


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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Mar 9 2007, 11:40 AM)
that's why i put "i wonder"  whistling.gif  and i think there's not just sukhoi...the beginning page also got i think, anyway, what's your point ???  blink.gif
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my point.......

we don't have official source supporting it....that's all....
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I'm wondering, in the Shell online application form, if I selected "yes" for "Willing to relocate?", is there a high probability they'll assign me outside Peninsula Malaysia?

Rite now I'm still waiting for any signs of interview.
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upstream work like engineer normally base in Miri (Sarawak) or Sabah. Downstream can be base peninsular like PD, IT mostly serve in SITI. What u can do is job search from shell website to check the vacancy and availability. They will ask you in the interview as well.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 8 2007, 07:02 PM)
we stay at home .....   tongue.gif

haha no la.....depends.....
from everywhere.....
klang, PJ, Puchong, Balakong, Sungai Long, Cheras, KL, Ampang, Seremban, Serdang....etc....

but almost all driving....i mean not all...but a lot la....

so car park always full if u come late....

btw....welcome to Shell IT Cyberjaya.....

hope u going to enjoy here....  biggrin.gif
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Thanks ya... I hope to enjoy here too.... heeee.... biggrin.gif

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Are u already work in SHELL now ? Then what department u working for ?
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Still not yet.. Going to join you guys on 19... at GI'NG.. please guide me ya... blush.gif


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GI'NG? smile.gif

It's probably one of the more interesting places in SITI, and challenging as well. Most importantly, have fun! smile.gif
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GI-NG.....welcome....
wonder u know which scope u r in yet....
but anyway....still u ll see us......
on the same wing ma.... tongue.gif

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Outsourcing - yea, there are thoughts of it and its an ongoing process now but nevertheless, the number of ppl applying to work for Shell IT did not decrease.

dinozilla - From H/ware Eng?? Hehe...


GI-NG ah? Well, there's a GI-NG girl sitting near me... I will ask her if she knows that the team is expecting anyone on the 19th

Got, got one IMG girl from Phillipines who lives in Cyberia with her friends

I travel daily to work though. Yes, many people from all places, travel to work there, Bangi, Sg Buloh, Klang, Seremban, KJ, PJ, SJ, Shah Alam, etc.
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but i heard from my fren who working in shell saying, some of the team are having difficulties hiring ppl due to this outsourcing process... is that true?
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does GI-NG affected by the outsourcing ?
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Mar 13 2007, 12:23 AM)
Outsourcing - yea, there are thoughts of it and its an ongoing process now but nevertheless, the number of ppl applying to work for Shell IT did not decrease.

dinozilla - From H/ware Eng?? Hehe...
GI-NG ah? Well, there's a GI-NG girl sitting near me... I will ask her if she knows that the team is expecting anyone on the 19th

Got, got one IMG girl from Phillipines who lives in Cyberia with her friends

I travel daily to work though. Yes, many people from all places, travel to work there, Bangi, Sg Buloh, Klang, Seremban, KJ, PJ, SJ, Shah Alam, etc.
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this dino is not that Deno..... biggrin.gif but still somewhere close to him.....hahaha.....

QUOTE(vicfirth @ Mar 13 2007, 12:31 AM)
but i heard from my fren who working in shell saying, some of the team are having difficulties hiring ppl due to this  outsourcing process... is that true?
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already a lot MNC either outsource a whole bunch of their IT dept, or outsource part of it...there is nothing new on this...it is the culture in malaysia that drive ppl wanna join in or not....some ppl tend to worry....for nothing.... tongue.gif
to me....Shell or vendor....as long as the environment still the same....doesn't matter much to me....

QUOTE(Dern @ Mar 13 2007, 01:54 AM)
does GI-NG affected by the outsourcing ?
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this 1 ma......i dunno....
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for me i dun worry lar, that's y i apply job in shell ma... hehe...
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QUOTE(KeNNy @ Mar 12 2007, 10:13 PM)
GI'NG? smile.gif

It's probably one of the more interesting places in SITI, and challenging as well. Most importantly, have fun! smile.gif
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Hmmm.. Expecting some fun and challenges there.. rclxm9.gif

QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 12 2007, 11:39 PM)
GI-NG.....welcome....
wonder u know which scope u r in yet....
but anyway....still u ll see us......
on the same wing ma.... tongue.gif
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Got some brief idea about what I am going to do only.. tongue.gif

Hoping to see you guys there soon... icon_rolleyes.gif

About the outsourcing, whats the difference with the current one if the pay and benefits remains? For me, I don't affected at all coz I am contract staff.. cry.gif
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I have some questions/ need advice:

1) Does anyone know when the SRD will be held this year?

2) Another thing, I'm thinking of changing jobs so I applied for Shell. I'd also like to apply to other companies, but I'm just afraid I won't be able to attend SRD if I've already landed other jobs.

Should I wait for Shell to contact me or should I simply get another job first while waiting?

3) If I've already started at a new job, let's say the salary is like RM4500, will Shell be willing to pay RM4500 for a new hire coming through SRD/graduate recruitment?

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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 13 2007, 01:30 PM)
Hmmm.. Expecting some fun and challenges there..  rclxm9.gif
Got some brief idea about what I am going to do only.. tongue.gif

Hoping to see you guys there soon...  icon_rolleyes.gif

About the outsourcing, whats the difference with the current one if the pay and benefits remains? For me, I don't affected at all coz I am contract staff..  cry.gif
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Yeap, I dont understand why people are too worried about outsourcing. Totally overreacting. The most important is its environment... t-shirt, jeans, slack... linient timing, HSSE and WLB rocks!!

Littleway, may I know who interviewed you and who is your hiring manager / boss / team leade?
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Mar 13 2007, 09:45 PM)
Yeap, I dont understand why people are too worried about outsourcing. Totally overreacting. The most important is its environment... t-shirt, jeans, slack... linient timing, HSSE and WLB rocks!!

Littleway, may I know who interviewed you and who is your hiring manager / boss / team leade?
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Why? I tot GI-NG only have one manager? I haven't join yet.. So there are still many things I not really clear about it... If you really want to know, then I PM you their names.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 13 2007, 10:08 PM)
Why? I tot GI-NG only have one manager? I haven't join yet.. So there are still many things I not really clear about it... If you really want to know, then I PM you their names.. wink.gif
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Sure PM me then... =) See if I know them or not..
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Mar 13 2007, 09:45 PM)
Yeap, I dont understand why people are too worried about outsourcing. Totally overreacting. The most important is its environment... t-shirt, jeans, slack... linient timing, HSSE and WLB rocks!!

Littleway, may I know who interviewed you and who is your hiring manager / boss / team leade?
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true true....good environment produce happy worker...then great performance....

QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 13 2007, 10:08 PM)
Why? I tot GI-NG only have one manager? I haven't join yet.. So there are still many things I not really clear about it... If you really want to know, then I PM you their names.. wink.gif
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Mar 13 2007, 10:57 PM)
Sure PM me then... =) See if I know them or not..
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I have some questions/ need advice:

1) Does anyone know when the SRD will be held this year?

2) Another thing, I'm thinking of changing jobs so I applied for Shell. I'd also like to apply to other companies, but I'm just afraid I won't be able to attend SRD if I've already landed other jobs.

Should I wait for Shell to contact me or should I simply get another job first while waiting?

3) If I've already started at a new job, let's say the salary is like RM4500, will Shell be willing to pay RM4500 for a new hire coming through SRD/graduate recruitment?
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I'm not sure about the SRD date but would you mind telling me what background do you have before I can answer your 3rd question?
As for 2nd question, you may check the status of your application from Shell website if you are applyin via the website. It is pretty update about whether you are being considered for the job or otherwise.
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QUOTE(naziaf @ Mar 13 2007, 03:37 PM)
I have some questions/ need advice:

1) Does anyone know when the SRD will be held this year?

2) Another thing, I'm thinking of changing jobs so I applied for Shell. I'd also like to apply to other companies, but I'm just afraid I won't be able to attend SRD if I've already landed other jobs.

Should I wait for Shell to contact me or should I simply get another job first while waiting?

3) If I've already started at a new job, let's say the salary is like RM4500, will Shell be willing to pay RM4500 for a new hire coming through SRD/graduate recruitment?
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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 14 2007, 08:56 AM)
I'm not sure about the SRD date but would you mind telling me what background do you have before I can answer your 3rd question?
As for 2nd question, you may check the status of your application from Shell website if you are applyin via the website. It is pretty update about whether you are being considered for the job or otherwise.
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My background is in computer engineering. I've been working in software development for the past 3 years, but am thinking of doing something else by joining Shell, as I heard they offer various career paths that does not necessarily be related to my current background.

I tried applying for the vacancies in SITI, but my app. was turned down. sad.gif I believe mainly because SITI deals with Windows-based development, and my current work deals more with networks and UNIX.

Thanks in advance!
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QUOTE(naziaf @ Mar 14 2007, 10:16 AM)
My background is in computer engineering. I've been working in software development for the past 3 years, but am thinking of doing something else by joining Shell, as I heard they offer various career paths that does not necessarily be related to my current background.

I tried applying for the vacancies in SITI, but my app. was turned down. sad.gif I believe mainly because SITI deals with Windows-based development, and my current work deals more with networks and UNIX.

Thanks in advance!
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Sorry Naziaf, I'm not from IT field and I believe most of the people here can answer your question easily about how much you will be getting if you join Shell.
For 3 yrs experience, I think Shell can easily match the salary of RM 4500
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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 14 2007, 08:56 AM)
I'm not sure about the SRD date but would you mind telling me what background do you have before I can answer your 3rd question?
As for 2nd question, you may check the status of your application from Shell website if you are applyin via the website. It is pretty update about whether you are being considered for the job or otherwise.
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I've applied for Internship in Shell and have gone through the phone interview, yet I didn't receive any email indicating whether my interview success or fail for about a month, do you mind to tell me how can i check my current status?

Thanks
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i'm just waiting for SHELL to initialize their outsourcing thingy


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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 14 2007, 02:43 PM)
i'm just waiting for SHELL to initialize their outsourcing thingy
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why?? what's ur intention here...
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I've applied for Internship in Shell and have gone through the phone interview, yet I didn't receive any email indicating whether my interview success or fail for about a month, do you mind to tell me how can i check my current status?

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If you have applied the Internship through the website itself (www.shell.com), you may find out about the status of your application through the website itself by logging in with the username & password that you used while you filled up the application for this Internship. Then goto the "Application Status" and you will see the actual status of your application there.

If you have applied the Internship through other method (eg. career fair), you will have to wait for them to call you in order to find out about the actual status. I had a bad experience with them last time before(they forgot to contact me although I had been shortlisted for 2nd interview until I called them up). If you can't wait any longer, you may send them a friendly reminder through email or you may call them up to check the status.

Good luck
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why?? what's ur intention here...
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hehe..nothing ..

SHELL will adopt outsourcing end of this year ...i just hope SHELL will pick their best outsource company to maintain their business
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hehe..nothing ..

SHELL will adopt outsourcing end of this year ...i just hope SHELL will pick their best outsource company to maintain their business
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Which division are they going to adopt the outsourcing?
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Which division are they going to adopt the outsourcing?
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Hi guys,

Thank you very much for all the advise but I just got an email about my application being rejected.

Looks like I'll just have to try again 1 year from now. Better start setting a reminder in my phone...now where's that phone...oh crap, I forgot I just threw it at the wall (just kidding).
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QUOTE(naziaf @ Mar 14 2007, 11:56 PM)
Hi guys,

Thank you very much for all the advise but I just got an email about my application being rejected.

Looks like I'll just have to try again 1 year from now. Better start setting a reminder in my phone...now where's that phone...oh crap, I forgot I just threw it at the wall (just kidding).
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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 14 2007, 06:33 PM)
If you have applied the Internship through the website itself (www.shell.com), you may find out about the status of your application through the website itself by logging in with the username & password that you used while you filled up the application for this Internship. Then goto the "Application Status" and you will see the actual status of your application there.

If you have applied the Internship through other method (eg. career fair), you will have to wait for them to call you in order to find out about the actual status. I had a bad experience with them last time before(they forgot to contact me although I had been shortlisted for 2nd interview until I called them up). If you can't wait any longer, you may send them a friendly reminder through email or you may call them up to check the status.

Good luck
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I applied through Internet and my application status still showing shortlisted. I think they forgot to called me though. Do you have any idea what email should I send them, cause I've sent quite a few yet still no reply.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Mar 15 2007, 01:49 AM)
I applied through Internet and my application status still showing shortlisted. I think they forgot to called me though. Do you have any idea what email should I send them, cause I've sent quite a few yet still no reply.
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If you have sent them emails and receive no reply from them, I think you have to wait.
I extracted this FAQ from Shell website. If your status is still showing "shortlisted", I think it's still OK.

Q. How do I find out the status of my application?
A. As a first point of call, please check the 'Application status' page. To do this, log on to 'My Application' and click on 'Application Status'. Please see below an explanation of the statuses you will see throughout the application and hire process.


New Application - We have successfully received your application.
Application Under Review - Your application is currently being considered by a member of our team.
Application Incomplete - This status is only applicable for our Graduate & Early Careers candidates - if you are viewing this status after having submitted an application for an experienced vacancy, this unfortunately indicates that your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
Shortlisted - You have been selected to attend an interview.
Final Assessment - Following a successful interview, we are further considering your application.
Offer - Your application is being considered for an offer of employment.
Hired - You have successfully passed all offer conditions and are awaiting start date.
Reject - Unfortunately, your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.


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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 15 2007, 03:11 AM)
If you have sent them emails and receive no reply from them, I think you have to wait.
I extracted this FAQ from Shell website. If your status is still showing "shortlisted", I think it's still OK.

Q. How do I find out the status of my application?
A. As a first point of call, please check the 'Application status' page. To do this, log on to 'My Application' and click on 'Application Status'. Please see below an explanation of the statuses you will see throughout the application and hire process.
New Application - We have successfully received your application.
Application Under Review - Your application is currently being considered by a member of our team.
Application Incomplete - This status is only applicable for our Graduate & Early Careers candidates - if you are viewing this status after having submitted an application for an experienced vacancy, this unfortunately indicates that your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
Shortlisted - You have been selected to attend an interview.
Final Assessment - Following a successful interview, we are further considering your application.
Offer - Your application is being considered for an offer of employment.
Hired - You have successfully passed all offer conditions and are awaiting start date.
Reject - Unfortunately, your application has been unsuccessful on this occasion.
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QUOTE(naziaf @ Mar 13 2007, 03:37 PM)
I have some questions/ need advice:

3) If I've already started at a new job, let's say the salary is like RM4500, will Shell be willing to pay RM4500 for a new hire coming through SRD/graduate recruitment?
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Check my PM out. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Check my PM out.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Just joined yesterday, till today still no pc use... Hohoho.. anyone work at Wisma 1, 2nd floor here?
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LoL tongue.gif I've just realised there're more SITI people in lowyat that meets the eye.

Dino, which Dino if it's not Deno from H/W Eng? blink.gif

Pennywise, are you Penny - the one we working together from RCO? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 20 2007, 09:13 PM)
Just joined yesterday, till today still no pc use... Hohoho.. anyone work at Wisma 1, 2nd floor here?
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mana u.....show urself infadel....hahahaha.....my team is right after entering the gate 1.....hehehee.....

QUOTE(KeNNy @ Mar 21 2007, 12:11 AM)
LoL tongue.gif I've just realised there're more SITI people in lowyat that meets the eye.

Dino, which Dino if it's not Deno from H/W Eng?  blink.gif

Pennywise, are you Penny - the one we working together from RCO?  rolleyes.gif
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this dino....use dino at everywhere online....but not in real life....
huge dif in the real life....hahaha.....hint.....still close to that deno's seat...biggrin.gif
another hint......not same team as deno....tongue.gif

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Nope, I am not from RCO. I am actually quite near littleway here and dinozilla I think but then no intentions to find out who they are or let them find out who I am.

Hahaha... I know a lot of Shell ppl visit lowyat forum frequently.
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QUOTE(JMFranklin @ Mar 14 2007, 06:43 PM)
Which division are they going to adopt the outsourcing?
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not just SITI but the whole GITI

SITI = SHELL IT Infrastructure

GITI = Global IT Infrastructure



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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 21 2007, 12:27 AM)
mana u.....show urself infadel....hahahaha.....my team is right after entering the gate 1.....hehehee.....
this dino....use dino at everywhere online....but not in real life....
huge dif in the real life....hahaha.....hint.....still close to that deno's seat...biggrin.gif
another hint......not same team as deno....tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 21 2007, 01:53 AM)
not just SITI but the whole GITI

SITI = SHELL IT Infrastructure

GITI = Global IT Infrastructure
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That's partially correct - SITI is Shell IT International and is a registered company. GITI is a global organisation as far as I know.

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hahaha....
hard to say de....
the scope will be more of definition term than group term...
u ll need to see the chart to understand (P&C applied?)
anyway.....this outsource topic kinda OOT here......
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By the way there is 4 SITI companies. Ltd in UK, BV in NL, Inc in US and Sdn Bhd in MY.


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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 22 2007, 11:51 PM)
hahaha....
hard to say de....
the scope will be more of definition term than group term...
u ll need to see the chart to understand (P&C applied?)
anyway.....this outsource topic kinda OOT here......
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ok ...*OFFTOPIC*

The reason behind outsoucing is for the company (Shell) to concentrate on their core business and outsource non-core function which would be done more cost effective with higher efficiency. It is expected that some cost savings are realized in the long run and it is easier for the Company to only monitor the performance of the outsourced party through Service Level Agreement (SLA).

In most cases, it is almost like saying that after the outsourcing has been decided, the company do not want to retain the existing staff in the related services and as such would transfer them to the outsourced company. Therefore there would normally be a deal or arrangement that would be made between the outsourced party and the company to take whatever staff involved in the existing operations. Under normal practice, the staff who are required to be transferred should be offered similar terms if not better than the terms currently enjoyed. In many cases there will be few staff who would not want to accept the transfer but it is not known what kind of work they would do if the choose to stay in their existing company.

There are many success stories about outsourcing, i.e both companies, achieve win-win. However in other cases, the service tend to deteriorate and the company decide to terminate the contract and take back all the staff.

Therefore my advise is if you cannot choose to stay in Shell, then get the union to negotiate for a really good deal before signing any offer. It is common that the allowances previously enjoyed in Shell may not be offered by the new company, but in exchange the staff would receive higher salary like, say 25% to 50% or increase depending on which allowance is taken away. In any case it is best to negotiate thoroughly before agreeing to the transfer. Once you accept, then you are no longer Shell staff.


moral = IT is SHELL non-core business even they built infrastructure in SITI SHELL CYBERJAYA.SHELL always remain as oil&gas company, not IT company like Google or HP. Thus we have to accept their decision for outsourcing thingy.

SHELL only give permanent status to management ppl , oil&gas engineer, reservoir engineer , geophysicist engineer , geologist engineer and so forth .

EOF


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What is interesting to me is that from reading and asking around, Shell seems to be the first big energy company that is going this route. ExxonMobil, BP, etc have not done IT outsourcing in a big way and are probably looking at Shell to see how good/bad this turns out to be.

IT is huge in oil and gas, no question about it. From trading to exploration to downstream. Screwing up is not an option, Shell already has problems recently in Sakhalin, Nigeria and with their reserves. I'm sure this outsourcing thing is going to be looked at very carefully.

Still, there's no way to know how it'll be on the individual level.

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I believe outsourcing will be here to stay as it is a good reason for cost saving...Imagine, the company just need to pay a sum of amount and vendors will take care of everything. So, the company doesn't need to worry about staff union lah, staff benefits lah, staff turn around lah, and etc. If the appointed vendors cannot perform just appoint another vendors for the job..Petronas too already outsourced its IT department to iPerintis and the result seems quite promising
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Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.


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QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 26 2007, 06:48 PM)
Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.
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this is just like.....

Proton is making car.....

does it makes it own aircond....
no....sub to other......
samething here wat.....
Shell main business is O&G
IT....not core stuff.....if some1 else can handle well with Q
y not.....
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i think if not mistaken, BP's IT hub is in Singapore....

QUOTE(Polishman @ Mar 26 2007, 06:48 PM)
Well actually BP has most of it's IT already oursourced.

And I don't belive lower cost is a main factor - especially seeing the net profits of Shell.
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 26 2007, 11:43 AM)
SHELL only give permanent status to management ppl , oil&gas engineer, reservoir engineer , geophysicist engineer , geologist engineer and so forth .
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now this is not true, now IT in SITI also able to get, more likely have permanent staff...

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QUOTE(KidsCode @ Mar 27 2007, 12:54 PM)
now this is not true, not IT in SITI also able to get, more likely have permanent staff...
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please gimme some examples.

not IT = management , accounting ?
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 27 2007, 01:18 PM)
please gimme some examples.

not IT = management , accounting ?
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helpdesk analyst / 1st level support also now at permanents. i mean able to be convert to, not directly too, but still permanents...

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hehe..no big deal ..

i hope all the helpdesk ppl can go to another team ...i'm ex-helpdesk in SHELL before ..cannot tahan with stupid user ...so i joined engineering team in another company ..i dont want to waste my talent
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 27 2007, 04:35 PM)
hehe..no big deal ..

i hope all the helpdesk ppl can go to another team ...i'm ex-helpdesk in SHELL before ..cannot tahan with stupid user ...so i joined engineering team in another company ..i dont want to waste my talent
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haha....this is funny man.....guess wat...
u r fed up wit user
while i m crack with the 2nd level support.....
they jz simply do their work(i would say not up to par)
end up i hav to do the work(which should done by them earlier)
from my point, 2nd lvl sup in SITI is not up to par (for certain region)
a little bit of like....wasted resource from shell for hiring them...
jz my 2c......they should have been able to do more well.....
they jz really disappointing in certain incidents.....
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Mar 27 2007, 06:04 PM)
haha....this is funny man.....guess wat...
u r fed up wit user
while i m crack with the 2nd level support.....
they jz simply do their work(i would say not up to par)
end up i hav to do the work(which should done by them earlier)
from my point, 2nd lvl sup in SITI is not up to par (for certain region)
a little bit of like....wasted resource from shell for hiring them...
jz my 2c......they should have been able to do more well.....
they jz really disappointing in certain incidents.....
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i agreed with some point u gave.

they are just follow what runbook (manual) says ., then they work on those incident/case.

i'm glad out from SHELL ,because i never love to be helpdesk/CSA , frank from my heart.

CSA = customer service agent

p/s is it same with CSA/CSC company ? wahahahah laugh.gif


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does anyone know of any cheaper parking spots for shell damansara other than menara chase perdana? went there for 3 hrs+ today n the parking cost me RM10.50!!! tmw goin there whole day...if were to park there again gonna die la...pokai liao!!! cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
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QUOTE(babana @ Mar 27 2007, 10:31 PM)
does anyone know of any cheaper parking spots for shell damansara other than menara  chase perdana? went there for 3 hrs+ today n the parking cost me RM10.50!!! tmw goin there whole day...if were to park there again gonna die la...pokai liao!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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I assumed you are going there for SRD or interview. The parking is reimbursable if I'm not mistaken. Please check with HR
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QUOTE(babana @ Mar 27 2007, 10:31 PM)
does anyone know of any cheaper parking spots for shell damansara other than menara  chase perdana? went there for 3 hrs+ today n the parking cost me RM10.50!!! tmw goin there whole day...if were to park there again gonna die la...pokai liao!!!  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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be mat rempit laa ...ride the bike ...even i'm having more salary nowadays , i'm still travel with my bike

u know why ? there's alot of reason

1. pracktical and efficient
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p/s after i got 5 figure salary ..then i will think to buy car laugh.gif

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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 28 2007, 10:49 AM)
be mat rempit laa ...ride the bike ...even i'm having more salary nowadays , i'm still travel with my bike

u know why ? there's alot of reason

1. pracktical and efficient
2. pracktical and efficient
3. pracktical and efficient
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n. pracktical and efficient

p/s after i got 5 figure salary ..then i will think to buy car  laugh.gif
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You live near your working place? hehe

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yerp ...very near ...but if company want me to be on-site then i will use car..

u know why ...? i can claim mileage from my company

p/s it's a nice day to be alive
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yerp ...very near ...but if company want me to be on-site then i will use car..

u know why ...? i can claim mileage from my company

p/s it's a nice day to be alive
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I saw the intranet today and Shell House is actually providing the free shuttle bus service to Shell House everyday..... May be you don't have to ride your bike anymore....
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Hi everyone,

I'm going to start a job at Shell soon. The position is Security Operation Administrator. Dealing with linux/unix server kernel. Anyone have any idea how is the job environment there? Is it a good department to work for? What do i need to take note of? Thanks in advance.

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Hi everyone,

I'm going to start a job at Shell soon. The position is Security Operation Administrator. Dealing with linux/unix server kernel. Anyone have any idea how is the job environment there? Is it a good department to work for? What do i need to take note of? Thanks in advance.

Jackoz
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haha..u will know and learn more what is COBIT, SOX ,HIPAA , BS7799,ISO17799 , export compliance, yada yada , blabla

trust domain too

please cover yourself with all those what i told u , smile.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 29 2007, 01:33 PM)
haha..u will know and learn more what is COBIT, SOX ,HIPAA , BS7799,ISO17799 , export compliance, yada yada , blabla

trust domain too

please cover yourself with all those what i told u ,  smile.gif
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Hey thanks. Btw, r u working in this department as well? smile.gif
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sorry to say ..but i'm not working at SHELL anymore ..

because SHELL not 100% IT company biggrin.gif
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sorry to say ..but i'm not working at SHELL anymore ..

because SHELL not 100% IT company biggrin.gif
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ic... is it tru dat this dept sometimes have to work till late nite during financial year end or audit time?
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ic... is it tru dat this dept sometimes have to work till late nite during financial year end or audit time?
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not quite sure dude , because i'm not in security team .

maybe they do that to prevent any security violation when they do audit , who knows rclxms.gif
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not quite sure dude , because i'm not in security team .

maybe they do that to prevent any security violation when they do audit , who knows  rclxms.gif
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u r with Shell for how long? wat's wrong with Shell being not an IT company? y do u leave Shell? i tot they have good benefit n bonus? u r working for wat company now? sorry for asking so many question. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(jackoz @ Mar 29 2007, 04:37 PM)
u r with Shell for how long? wat's wrong with Shell being not an IT company? y do u leave  Shell? i tot they have good benefit n bonus? u r working for wat company now? sorry for asking so many question. biggrin.gif
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u r with Shell for how long?

not even a year

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wat's wrong with Shell being not an IT company?

because SHELL have its own business in many field ==> refinery, services, chemical, engineering and so forth .

Like HP and IBM, they concentrate 100% in IT industry and i cleared of what business nature they running now

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y do u leave Shell?

i left SHELL not because of SHELL itself , it is because i dont like the environment in my department , being call-center guy , some of my friend got f*ck from user whom called ..damned ..some more i'm suprise that in job description, they never mention about helpdesk or call center ...sh*t , they used another word to cover what operation looks like ...e.g technical support , consultant , damned

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i tot they have good benefit n bonus? u r working for wat company now?

Bonus is for SHELL permanent , and at time , i'm just a contract staff , furthermore SHELL wanna outsource , i feel sad for those ppl whom wanna convert to permanent but can't get it , UNLESS , they try to join another department to get permanent status , like security computer operation .

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it's ok .. no hassle wink.gif
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haha....this is funny man.....guess wat...
u r fed up wit user
while i m crack with the 2nd level support.....
they jz simply do their work(i would say not up to par)
end up i hav to do the work(which should done by them earlier)
from my point, 2nd lvl sup in SITI is not up to par (for certain region)
a little bit of like....wasted resource from shell for hiring them...
jz my 2c......they should have been able to do more well.....
they jz really disappointing in certain incidents.....
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I am joining the force at 2nd level support for scripted apps.. biggrin.gif The support team you working on right now, is it GI-D Client team?
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QUOTE(littleway @ Mar 30 2007, 12:49 AM)
I am joining the force at 2nd level support for scripted apps.. biggrin.gif The support team you working on right now, is it GI-D Client team?
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nope....
2nd level support???? IMG????
if u r....lets pray i wont "Bang" with you someday....biggrin.gif
i m not sure if helpdesk or img is trained or jz follow the guidebook
a lot of them jz don make use of common sense....
and some...even pretend they know a lot technical than u...
even they should be able to know that u r from a engineering team... doh.gif
yday i made call/email to helpdesk/support
and got myself some of the freakiest answer ever heard.... rclxub.gif
i couldn't continue the call then.....jz tell him its 6pm and i wanna leave...follow up next week.... sweat.gif

to be honest....some should understand the dif between a staff and a contractor....
staff is some1 considered as employee for the corporate....and they must be treated as good as the labour law...if not better....

contractor is in term, should be some1 hired temporary...with already required skill set...no further...

of coz this definition is exactly right in western, but in eastern...not all can accept such an idea...that's why there is ppl who ignoring...

don ask Shell y hire u as contractor....instead...ask urself wat core u hav that worth Shell to hire u as employee....
its the fact...they r employer...they decide wat kind of ppl they want....
if u do not hav the skill/attitude they ok wit, y would they get u in....
n there will be no point for SRD to be exists....

as in shell, u should be feel more better....as other than the benefits/opportunity, they treat u the same as other staff in term of team, event, outing
not like other place where contractor is not welcome for any company dinner...
coz they r not staff.....

good luck to u littleway.....
u r from???? Client/IMG?
PM better.....
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this incoming June or July , SHELL ppl will be using vista as their desktop ..hope there's more and more excitement not severe wink.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Mar 30 2007, 10:11 AM)
this incoming June or July , SHELL ppl will be using vista as their desktop ..hope there's more and more excitement not severe wink.gif
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dude.....not this year la.....

QUOTE(bebee @ Mar 30 2007, 11:34 AM)
i wonder how 2 apply for shell admin job?
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this incoming June or July , SHELL ppl will be using vista as their desktop ..hope there's more and more excitement not severe wink.gif
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They will do it next year or so.
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dude.....not this year la.....
admin>>> sys admin? net admin? manager? hmm.gif
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oo...it means they defer the launching of the new desktop laa ...
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oo...it means they defer the launching of the new desktop  laa ...
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nothing of defer la....
its the current schedule....

last time everyone deferred becoz microsoft deferred....remember?
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nothing of defer la....
its the current schedule....

last time everyone deferred becoz microsoft deferred....remember?
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ok ..thanks for that ...i thought SHELL or GI-NG team wanna deferred their new desktop launch , because of too many head-ache on vista's script laugh.gif
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i'm now studying in uk and gonna graduate this july.. is is possible for me to apply internship in malaysia instead of apply a job in shell ? u know lar.. no job experience at all.. hard for me to get a permenant job after graduate.. i am studying mechcanical engineering now.. BEng..

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QUOTE(gniliap @ Apr 3 2007, 08:13 AM)
i'm now studying in uk and gonna graduate this july.. is is possible for me to apply internship in malaysia instead of apply a job in shell ? u know lar.. no job experience at all.. hard for me to get a permenant job after graduate.. i am studying mechcanical engineering now.. BEng..
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I will suggest you to apply Shell in UK, either do internship/job or even offer yourself to volunteering job in Shell. Just to open the door of Oil & Gas industry. I regretted that I did not do that during my stay in UK. If you are a fresh grad, they will not bother too much as they recruit fresh grad ALL the time. So, apply now before it is too late. Malaysia job market is dissappointing.... My piece of advice is to work in UK professionally but spend in Malaysia, you are 'employee King' then.
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huhu

try apply for EP team (Exploration and Production) in UK , or what we called as SHELL UK EP (SUKEP)

bright future in EP team ...alot of benefits


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i'm planning to apply for a job in shell later this yr (still got some things to take care of). hoping to look for a permanent non-helpdesk/non-support role. basically, hoping to move up to mgmt level, or something like a project mgr or infrastructure planning etc... still haven't decided yet.

what possible positions or job roles should i look out for in shell? anyone knows anyone in shell that i might approach directly to make the application more effective? (that's because MNCs prefer to hire staff-referred ppl than scan thru resumes)

as for qualifications, i'm an RHCE, has MCSE skills, but has not taken the exams. been with dell 2 yrs plus. very experienced in all their enterprise hw n sw, including EMC etc. mainly aiming to make an advance in my career to get into either mgmt or a large-scale IT infrastructure planning/consulting role.

btw, the outsourcing part is really confirmed for end of this yr? what jobs and level of staff are affected most by this?

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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 4 2007, 12:11 PM)
i'm planning to apply for a job in shell later this yr (still got some things to take care of). hoping to look for a permanent non-helpdesk/non-support role. basically, hoping to move up to mgmt level, or something like a project mgr or infrastructure planning etc... still haven't decided yet.

what possible positions or job roles should i look out for in shell? anyone knows anyone in shell that i might approach directly to make the application more effective? (that's because MNCs prefer to hire staff-referred ppl than scan thru resumes)

as for qualifications, i'm an RHCE, has MCSE skills, but has not taken the exams. been with dell 2 yrs plus. very experienced in all their enterprise hw n sw, including EMC etc. mainly aiming to make an advance in my career to get into either mgmt or a large-scale IT infrastructure planning/consulting role.

btw, the outsourcing part is really confirmed for end of this yr? what jobs and level of staff are affected most by this?
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whole GITI will be fully affected.

gud luck for seeking job @ SHELL

try check with headhunter like micom,hesper,techsap dan so forth.


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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 4 2007, 12:11 PM)
i'm planning to apply for a job in shell later this yr (still got some things to take care of). hoping to look for a permanent non-helpdesk/non-support role. basically, hoping to move up to mgmt level, or something like a project mgr or infrastructure planning etc... still haven't decided yet.
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Not to discourage you or anything but I asked a friend who's part of the project team in Shell. Their project team there has pretty high standards, the entry level is the infrastructure consultant I believe and that requires > 10 years working experience.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif

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for project and planning stuff...y would a MNC or such a mega corporation gonna play play wit the kind of staff they gonna hire....
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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 4 2007, 12:11 PM)
i'm planning to apply for a job in shell later this yr (still got some things to take care of). hoping to look for a permanent non-helpdesk/non-support role. basically, hoping to move up to mgmt level, or something like a project mgr or infrastructure planning etc... still haven't decided yet.

what possible positions or job roles should i look out for in shell? anyone knows anyone in shell that i might approach directly to make the application more effective? (that's because MNCs prefer to hire staff-referred ppl than scan thru resumes)

as for qualifications, i'm an RHCE, has MCSE skills, but has not taken the exams. been with dell 2 yrs plus. very experienced in all their enterprise hw n sw, including EMC etc. mainly aiming to make an advance in my career to get into either mgmt or a large-scale IT infrastructure planning/consulting role.

btw, the outsourcing part is really confirmed for end of this yr? what jobs and level of staff are affected most by this?
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Well check www.shell.com/careers - I can see Shell has about 35 IT related jobs on offer in Malaysia. Some are definitely in the area of your interest.


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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 4 2007, 05:31 PM)
Not to discourage you or anything but I asked a friend who's part of the project team in Shell. Their project team there has pretty high standards, the entry level is the infrastructure consultant I believe and that requires > 10 years working experience.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong biggrin.gif
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i know that, but it's not always the case. if u have the qualifications n manage to impress the interviewer, paper-requirements can be waived. i have a colleague who got in earlier this yr like that.

QUOTE(Polishman @ Apr 5 2007, 01:55 AM)
Well check www.shell.com/careers - I can see Shell has about 35 IT related jobs on offer in Malaysia. Some are definitely in the area of your interest.
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i've been thru the site already. i hate the idea of just sending in resumes online/offline. usually the returns for that is less than 10% statistically. plus, from the roughly 10 of my colleagues that moved over this yr, it took around 3-4 mths before they received a reply after submitting online.
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Actually some of the SHELL staff is already using Vista. A lot of those in GI-NG and some in GI-D are the pilot users for Vista. I am one of them. The rollout wont be so soon, think ~2008?

Outsourcing will affect most of SHELL IT operations staff but somehow it wont affect us or any of you who plan on getting a job in SHELL. Let me explain why.

If you join SHELL as a contract staff (Third Party Contractor - TPC), then you wont have benefits. You pay will be high but you have no benefits and when you dont work, you dont get paid. Later on, when you finish your contract, your team lead will decide whether to renew your contract, let you go or absord you as permanent staff.

So from the views of contract staff, you become permanent staff - enjoying all the benefits like RM800 for optical medication (I think some of them buy Oakley's with this), unlimited medical coverage, not sure how much dental coverage, 5% off petrol, etc.

So when outsourcing comes, how does it affect us? Lets just put it real simple - IBM and HP are probably the only ones who can support SHELL worldwide operations, dont tell me they would give it to some CSA company right cause CSA is local, SHELL is worldwide.

So, when you are absorb, you become SHELL staff. You are promised a safe position in the new company that you are being outsourced to. Let's just say IBM, then you become IBM permanent staff and enjoy IBM benefits - so what the hell is so bad about outsourcing? Either way you still become some permanent staff and no, they wont fire you, retrench you in any way because SHELL protects their staff and guaranteed you are safe from firing for 24 months! How cool is that? If you get fired, you are compensated immediately, unless you sendiri commit a big dufus mistake at work la.

So why is everyone so afraid of outsourcing? It is not new people that is affect, not those who has worked there 1 year that is being affected but rather those old-timers who has been there a long time. Every few year, I think SHELL contribution to their staff EPF increases, as well as other benefits - being outsourced means not being to enjoy those benefits anymore. For example: you contribute you EPF of 11%, SHELL contribute 16% from their end. Next year, they are supposed to contribute 20% to your EPF due to your long year of service, lets say 6 years. So suddenly, next year, you are being outsourced, then you wont get that 20% EPF benefit but rather IBM's very normal 11% EPF. That leaves you somewhat dissatisfied. Something like that. Not to mention if you work there for several years and been performing very well, being outsourced means going to somewhere where you have to rebuild your career again, thus a loss of opportunity for career development - promotion.

SHELL operations are quite sensitive and our GI-D is different from what others have out there so there is NO WAY that SHELL will close any team or discard anyone. The process of being outsourced will be a long one, decisions on who gets the deal also we dont know yet. We are updated from time to time and the wait-to-sign-the-agreement-because-SHELL-usually-wont-sign-immeidately will be another time frame. Then moving the technology from SHELL-to-the-outsourcing-counterparts will possibly take another 6 - 12 months... So what's there to worry about?

By the time everything come to past, its already 2009. Trust me.



LittleWay,
You are seated in the room way in the back of 2nd Floor, Wisma 1, Left Wing - correct? Same team with Sarah, Jason but they moved because they start shift in Right Wing. Now you are with the girl got braces one and etc... Yes?



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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 4 2007, 12:11 PM)
i'm planning to apply for a job in shell later this yr (still got some things to take care of). hoping to look for a permanent non-helpdesk/non-support role. basically, hoping to move up to mgmt level, or something like a project mgr or infrastructure planning etc... still haven't decided yet.

what possible positions or job roles should i look out for in shell? anyone knows anyone in shell that i might approach directly to make the application more effective? (that's because MNCs prefer to hire staff-referred ppl than scan thru resumes)

as for qualifications, i'm an RHCE, has MCSE skills, but has not taken the exams. been with dell 2 yrs plus. very experienced in all their enterprise hw n sw, including EMC etc. mainly aiming to make an advance in my career to get into either mgmt or a large-scale IT infrastructure planning/consulting role.

btw, the outsourcing part is really confirmed for end of this yr? what jobs and level of staff are affected most by this?
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My team people moving to DELL, you wanna come to SHELL? Lolx... I suggest you better stay there. If you are still in DELL, did your Client Engineering team just hired a new manager and was just sent to USA for training?

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Just a quick one... TPC need to pay for their parking there right (in CJ)?
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Just a quick one... TPC need to pay for their parking there right (in CJ)?
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No need.
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Outsourcing is a worry for people in general because there is the a possibility that they would

- lose jobs
- lose money
- lose benefits
- get more work

I've never been outsourced before, my experience is from the Motorola/Freescale staff who were. Since the typical contracts don't state numbers of people etc. and instead concentrate on SLAs (eg. 4-hour response time for any urgent incidents), the outsourced company will have leeway in deciding whether they need 10 people or 100 people to do the job.

Let's say they do hire the 100 people, then decided that over time Shell isn't calling enough to justify 100 people, instead of firing those 100 people, they just dump EDS or BP or whatever else workload on that group instead.

And you're absolutely wrong, CSA is a subsidiary of CSC which is a global Fortune 500 company with stocks trading in the NYSE. They are very active in outsourcing, along with the Indian giants Wipro and Tata Consultancy. Good luck biggrin.gif


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pennywise,
i'm not with engineering in dell. smile.gif which teams are ur ppl moving to in dell?
most of my people are moving over as contract, just for the better pay. some of them are getting more than double their pay in dell already.

QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 5 2007, 10:22 AM)
Let's say they do hire the 100 people, then decided that over time Shell isn't calling enough to justify 100 people, instead of firing those 100 people, they just dump EDS or BP or whatever else workload on that group instead.

And you're absolutely wrong, CSA is a subsidiary of CSC which is a global Fortune 500 company with stocks trading in the NYSE. They are very active in outsourcing, along with the Indian giants Wipro and Tata Consultancy. Good luck biggrin.gif
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that's what i'm worried abt. smile.gif
i've worked with my couterparts from wipro before n seriously, i dun like working with them. maybe it's because of the extremely diff culture, we usually have very different expectations of the same situation.
i kinda think CSA n HP might be the main ppl to take up this outsource plan from shell for our region, altho that's just my speculation at this point.
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i've been thru the site already. i hate the idea of just sending in resumes online/offline. usually the returns for that is less than 10% statistically. plus, from the roughly 10 of my colleagues that moved over this yr, it took around 3-4 mths before they received a reply after submitting online.
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 5 2007, 10:22 AM)
Outsourcing is a worry for people in general because there is the a possibility that they would

- lose jobs
- lose money
- lose benefits
- get more work

I've never been outsourced before, my experience is from the Motorola/Freescale staff who were. Since the typical contracts don't state numbers of people etc. and instead concentrate on SLAs (eg. 4-hour response time for any urgent incidents), the outsourced company will have leeway in deciding whether they need 10 people or 100 people to do the job.

Let's say they do hire the 100 people, then decided that over time Shell isn't calling enough to justify 100 people, instead of firing those 100 people, they just dump EDS or BP or whatever else workload on that group instead.

And you're absolutely wrong, CSA is a subsidiary of CSC which is a global Fortune 500 company with stocks trading in the NYSE. They are very active in outsourcing, along with the Indian giants Wipro and Tata Consultancy. Good luck biggrin.gif
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As for CSC and etc, thanks for educating me on that part. Appreciated but I still dont see how outsourcing can affect me negatively considering I am still TPC now.

QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 5 2007, 10:52 AM)
pennywise,
i'm not with engineering in dell. smile.gif which teams are ur ppl moving to in dell?
most of my people are moving over as contract, just for the better pay. some of them are getting more than double their pay in dell already.
that's what i'm worried abt. smile.gif
i've worked with my couterparts from wipro before n seriously, i dun like working with them. maybe it's because of the extremely diff culture, we usually have very different expectations of the same situation.
i kinda think CSA n HP might be the main ppl to take up this outsource plan from shell for our region, altho that's just my speculation at this point.
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I have no idea which team though. I never ask but I know so far a few is going over. It is a new team formed at DELL, a team of 10 but 5 are from SHELL.
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TPC in shell will be affected la....they can fire you anytime if they decided you are not worthy to the company....In another words outsourcing is the time they clean up all those ppl who can;t work..
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 5 2007, 03:09 AM)

So from the views of contract staff, you become permanent staff - enjoying all the benefits like RM800 for optical medication (I think some of them buy Oakley's with this), unlimited medical coverage, not sure how much dental coverage, 5% off petrol, etc.
Working with Shell got 5% off petrol a?
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Working with Shell got 5% off petrol a?
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Yes you get RM1000 for petrol n housing allowance + 5% off petrol if u use Shell card...

BUT all these will be gone after outsource.....sad case
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^ with all those benefits, if i'm able to get in as a permanent staff, i'd better get in fast before they outsource. haha.
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They only give 5% off Shell minyak when you're a Shell staff? That's only like RM25-30 savings per month for me. I thought it'd be more....

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TPC in shell will be affected la....they can fire you anytime if they decided you are not worthy to the company....In another words outsourcing is the time they clean up all those ppl who can;t work..
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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 5 2007, 03:08 PM)
^ with all those benefits, if i'm able to get in as a permanent staff, i'd better get in fast before they outsource. haha.
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Yes, that's what many TPC is thinking.

QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 5 2007, 03:58 PM)
They only give 5% off Shell minyak when you're a Shell staff? That's only like RM25-30 savings per month for me. I thought it'd be more....
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Damn kedekut these oil & gas companies. Shell profit for 2006 was > US$25 billion. Exxon Mobil profit for 2006 was > US$30+ billion....

5% and 3% discount je? meh.... biggrin.gif

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5% i dun mind lor, furthermore not every company give this type of benefit... it's just another type of benefit for their staff...
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Apr 5 2007, 02:06 PM)
Yes you get RM1000 for petrol n housing allowance + 5% off petrol if u use Shell card...

BUT all these will be gone after outsource.....sad case
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dude....the offer to vendor and condition in it haven finalise yet....u really cant sure of what could happen yet.....who knows u might still can keep ur shell card....

QUOTE(kevler @ Apr 5 2007, 02:58 PM)
last but not least

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later u able to buy Impreza wink.gif
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this is jz valid for SITI staff....and its rips off from 2009 onwards....

QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 5 2007, 03:08 PM)
^ with all those benefits, if i'm able to get in as a permanent staff, i'd better get in fast before they outsource. haha.
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currently the timeline for outsource transition is somewhere next year....not sure if gonna change....
bad news for u is....there is rule of minimum time frame to be meet before a TPC can be converted to staff...HR rulez!!!! go through SRD is the best way u could hav...

QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 5 2007, 09:24 PM)
Damn kedekut these oil & gas companies. Shell profit for 2006 was > US$25 billion. Exxon Mobil profit for 2006 was > US$30+ billion....

5% and 3% discount je? meh.... biggrin.gif
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its jz a corporate benefits for staff.....for dif company of coz dif sort of benefits....
jz like if u HP staff...buy HP product cheaper....see?
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I dont think that the outsource transition will be somewhere next year. I think we are all secured till 2009. Transfering team, dept, technology over to the new place will not be that easy.

TPC nowadays wanna convert is damn easy unless those in GI-NG because when Vista rollout, all those GI-NG will merge with GI-D and GI-NG I believe will disperse. SHELL also know that all their good staff is running out, so when a TPC can perform, they will absorb them.

After all, even if our salary is 7k, its just 1k Euro for them so what the heck... Cheap labour la us.
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so what happen to those whose depts are not being outsource ? the RM1K also abolished ? wah, then rugi loh for those not affected by the outsourcing thing....is there any salary adjustment for this ??? cool2.gif

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 6 2007, 03:00 AM)
I dont think that the outsource transition will be somewhere next year. I think we are all secured till 2009. Transfering team, dept, technology over to the new place will not be that easy.

TPC nowadays wanna convert is damn easy unless those in GI-NG because when Vista rollout, all those GI-NG will merge with GI-D and GI-NG I believe will disperse. SHELL also know that all their good staff is running out, so when a TPC can perform, they will absorb them.

After all, even if our salary is 7k, its just 1k Euro for them so what the heck... Cheap labour la us.
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Since it's an allowance - it's discretionary. The company make take it away any time...

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QUOTE(kevler @ Apr 3 2007, 10:59 AM)
huhu

try apply for EP team (Exploration and Production) in UK , or what we called as SHELL UK EP (SUKEP)

bright future in EP team ...alot of benefits
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working at the company "Core Business" sure will have more benefits...

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Apr 5 2007, 01:52 PM)
TPC in shell will be affected la....they can fire you anytime if they decided you are not worthy to the company....In another words outsourcing is the time they clean up all those ppl who can;t work..
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now Shell in a transitions to convert every1 to permanents as easier for outsourcing

QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Apr 5 2007, 02:06 PM)
Yes you get RM1000 for petrol n housing allowance + 5% off petrol if u use Shell card...

BUT all these will be gone after outsource.....sad case
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the allowance at the mean time fix will continue until end of 2008, outsource or not...

QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 5 2007, 03:58 PM)
They only give 5% off Shell minyak when you're a Shell staff? That's only like RM25-30 savings per month for me. I thought it'd be more....
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still good, as base on how much you used... you also can sub out the Shell car for other family members...

QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 6 2007, 03:00 AM)
I dont think that the outsource transition will be somewhere next year. I think we are all secured till 2009. Transfering team, dept, technology over to the new place will not be that easy.

TPC nowadays wanna convert is damn easy unless those in GI-NG because when Vista rollout, all those GI-NG will merge with GI-D and GI-NG I believe will disperse. SHELL also know that all their good staff is running out, so when a TPC can perform, they will absorb them.

After all, even if our salary is 7k, its just 1k Euro for them so what the heck... Cheap labour la us.
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if according to plan, by the time starting of Q4, the short list for any1 staying will start and give the rest about 3 months to able to apply to other Shell group...
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but i tot the allowance is to top up the basic which is quite low if compare to other company basic salary... cry.gif

QUOTE(Polishman @ Apr 6 2007, 03:27 PM)
Since it's an allowance - it's discretionary. The company make take it away any time...
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That's exactly what it is not. Allowance is "discretionary extra". Basic salary is the "guaranteed pay".

The fact that people do agree to low basic salary is their problem. They should have been smarter when signing the contract.

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shell card? SITI and downstream people only got that right? wow, 1k housing allowance. if ur basic is 2.6k, +1k = 3.6k. nice lo.
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what i can say is SITI offer is not that attractive anymore...HP and other company can offer more...
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since when 1 euro = rm7 ?...haha tongue.gif
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so what happen to those whose depts are not being outsource ? the RM1K also abolished ? wah, then rugi loh for those not affected by the outsourcing thing....is there any salary adjustment for this ???  cool2.gif
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by the way, i'm wondering how much is the increament for each individual? It is more than 10% or less than that?

I was offer the job but now i'm considering whether i want join the company.
i was told that by 2009 the allowance will transfer to Car & house allowance.
In order for the staff to enjoy the benefits they required to purchase a new house or a new car?
If someone who really can't afford for both of the item is there anywhere the individual able to enjoy the RM 1000 benefits?


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QUOTE(Frenly @ Apr 6 2007, 07:22 PM)
by the way, i'm wondering how much is the increament for each individual? It is more than 10% or less than that?

I was offer the job but now i'm considering whether i want join the company.
i was told that by 2009 the allowance will transfer to Car & house allowance.
In order for the staff to enjoy the benefits they required to purchase a new house or a new car?
If someone who really can't afford for both of the item is there anywhere the individual able to enjoy the RM 1000 benefits?
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the allowance is intended to assist u in instalment for your car or house
the current switch is to move from allowance to loan
instead of paying u even u r not getting any house or car...
making the current loan plan much wise and cost saving...
only support those who really buying
there is no other Shell subsidiries enjoy such benefits except SITI
they are just streamline it as for One Shell....
it will removes for staff in dept which r not outsource as well....no exception...

u might heard a lot company try to bid for it....
its jz like Proton case......
Volkswagen, Naza, Hicom, etc
Gov jz look for better 1.....
same to GITI, the infrastructure will only hand to a capable one....
u might say LCMG and CSA are potential....bare in mind too....
wat they outsource is IT infrastructure....an IT company always has an advantage...
more over if they do hav experience on outsourcing...
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Thanks for the tips.
So i believe you are one of the invidual who are working in shell? May i know how long u had been with this comp?
how the working life there? are u doing support?


you can pm me if u want to answer my question personally

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the allowance is intended to assist u in instalment for your car or house
the current switch is to move from allowance to loan
instead of paying u even u r not getting any house or car...
making the current loan plan much wise and cost saving...
only support those who really buying
there is no other Shell subsidiries enjoy such benefits except SITI
they are just streamline it as for One Shell....
it will removes for staff in dept which r not outsource as well....no exception...

u might heard a lot company try to bid for it....
its jz like Proton case......
Volkswagen, Naza, Hicom, etc
Gov jz look for better 1.....
same to GITI, the infrastructure will only hand to a capable one....
u might say LCMG and CSA are potential....bare in mind too....
wat they outsource is IT infrastructure....an IT company always has an advantage...
more over if they do hav experience on outsourcing...
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 5 2007, 03:09 AM)
Actually some of the SHELL staff is already using Vista. A lot of those in GI-NG and some in GI-D are the pilot users for Vista. I am one of them. The rollout wont be so soon, think ~2008?

Outsourcing will affect most of SHELL IT operations staff but somehow it wont affect us or any of you who plan on getting a job in SHELL. Let me explain why.

If you join SHELL as a contract staff (Third Party Contractor - TPC), then you wont have benefits. You pay will be high but you have no benefits and when you dont work, you dont get paid. Later on, when you finish your contract, your team lead will decide whether to renew your contract, let you go or absord you as permanent staff.

So from the views of contract staff, you become permanent staff - enjoying all the benefits like RM800 for optical medication (I think some of them buy Oakley's with this), unlimited medical coverage, not sure how much dental coverage, 5% off petrol, etc.

So when outsourcing comes, how does it affect us? Lets just put it real simple - IBM and HP are probably the only ones who can support SHELL worldwide operations, dont tell me they would give it to some CSA company right cause CSA is local, SHELL is worldwide.

So, when you are absorb, you become SHELL staff. You are promised a safe position in the new company that you are being outsourced to. Let's just say IBM, then you become IBM permanent staff and enjoy IBM benefits - so what the hell is so bad about outsourcing? Either way you still become some permanent staff and no, they wont fire you, retrench you in any way because SHELL protects their staff and guaranteed you are safe from firing for 24 months! How cool is that? If you get fired, you are compensated immediately, unless you sendiri commit a big dufus mistake at work la.

So why is everyone so afraid of outsourcing? It is not new people that is affect, not those who has worked there 1 year that is being affected but rather those old-timers who has been there a long time. Every few year, I think SHELL contribution to their staff EPF increases, as well as other benefits - being outsourced means not being to enjoy those benefits anymore. For example: you contribute you EPF of 11%, SHELL contribute 16% from their end. Next year, they are supposed to contribute 20% to your EPF due to your long year of service, lets say 6 years. So suddenly, next year, you are being outsourced, then you wont get that 20% EPF benefit but rather IBM's very normal 11% EPF. That leaves you somewhat dissatisfied. Something like that. Not to mention if you work there for several years and been performing very well, being outsourced means going to somewhere where you have to rebuild your career again, thus a loss of opportunity for career development - promotion.

SHELL operations are quite sensitive and our GI-D is different from what others have out there so there is NO WAY that SHELL will close any team or discard anyone. The process of being outsourced will be a long one, decisions on who gets the deal also we dont know yet. We are updated from time to time and the wait-to-sign-the-agreement-because-SHELL-usually-wont-sign-immeidately will be another time frame. Then moving the technology from SHELL-to-the-outsourcing-counterparts will possibly take another 6 - 12 months... So what's there to worry about?

By the time everything come to past, its already 2009. Trust me.
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Added on April 5, 2007, 3:15 am

My team people moving to DELL, you wanna come to SHELL? Lolx... I suggest you better stay there. If you are still in DELL, did your Client Engineering team just hired a new manager and was just sent to USA for training?
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Added on April 8, 2007, 2:49 amBTW, why worry about outsource as no matter what company gets it, you are still doing the same thing just that different boss isn't it? Coz the company which wins the outsource thingy, still needs people to maintain the GITI.

For me, I don't care la.. As long as I get to learn new things and experience... Somemore fresh grads no burden.. Go where also can.. tongue.gif

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there is always the business and epbp. there is a trend in the graduate community as well...they are move out of GITI as well. They are really taking advantage of the rotation.


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OMG.. I'm spotted...  sweat.gif


Added on April 8, 2007, 2:49 amBTW, why worry about outsource as no matter what company gets it, you are still doing the same thing just that different boss isn't it? Coz the company which wins the outsource thingy, still needs people to maintain the GITI.

For me, I don't care la.. As long as I get to learn new things and experience... Somemore fresh grads no burden.. Go where also can.. tongue.gif
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Yes, no matter where we are outsourced, they will still need ppl to maintain the current work and its not easy to just transfer technology and dept among companies. Nothing to worry about indeed.

GI-NG all hiring fresh graduates, by the dozen, always in the meeting room. When Vista is launched, all of GI-NG staff will merge with GI-D and GI-NG will disperse, I think.
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 8 2007, 05:59 PM)
Yes, no matter where we are outsourced, they will still need ppl to maintain the current work and its not easy to just transfer technology and dept among companies. Nothing to worry about indeed.

GI-NG all hiring fresh graduates, by the dozen, always in the meeting room. When Vista is launched, all of GI-NG staff will merge with GI-D and GI-NG will disperse, I think.
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yup....that should be the most likely case....i suppose....
but don think all can merge....
probably some will be offer to go somewhere else...
or else....u leave as u wish....
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QUOTE(Pennywise @ Apr 8 2007, 05:59 PM)
Yes, no matter where we are outsourced, they will still need ppl to maintain the current work and its not easy to just transfer technology and dept among companies. Nothing to worry about indeed.

GI-NG all hiring fresh graduates, by the dozen, always in the meeting room. When Vista is launched, all of GI-NG staff will merge with GI-D and GI-NG will disperse, I think.
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I think not all GI-NG members would switch to another team after handover as GI-NG staff has many TPC new joiner... Perhaps will get filtered during outsourcing... That would be few more months to go.. Anyway, Faster reveal yourself... since you know who am I already.. biggrin.gif
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i bet its a hide n seek now....hahahaha....
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ah.. ah.. ah..
u ll nvr catch me....
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ah.. ah.. ah..
u ll nvr catch me....
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o sht.....got me dy......
littleway....found out his identity?
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o sht.....got me dy......
littleway....found out his identity?
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oh ya.....Mr tan......
hmm....not many Tan going to out station recently woh.....
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oh ya.....Mr tan......
hmm....not many Tan going to out station recently woh.....
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tongue.gif Wow, hunting game. I'm glad I left already tongue.gif

You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy. Always talk about alignment. Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7.

Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7. In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set.

Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia.

I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%). And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left tongue.gif Much happier now. icon_rolleyes.gif thumbup.gif

P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment.

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What's a fishtank team? Are they into fishing?
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 11 2007, 04:55 PM)
tongue.gif Wow, hunting game. I'm glad I left already tongue.gif

You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy.  Always talk about alignment.  Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7.

Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7.  In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set.

Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia.

I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%).  And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left tongue.gif Much happier now.  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif

P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment.
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yerp.. i saw many of ex-SHELL left SITI ..and they went to HP , which concentrate on IT 100%

in malay , we called it "bersepah"

bersepah = disperse .


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QUOTE(Polishman @ Apr 12 2007, 12:15 PM)
What's a fishtank team? Are they into fishing?
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They're all grouped/isolated in a glass environment, hence the word 'fishtank'. Or you can call it 'aquarium'. tongue.gif
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we hav such a environment?????? where?
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we hav such a environment?????? where?
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They left for CBJ-TO half a year ago. Rumours have it TO stands for 'Temporary Occupancy' biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Aquarium, right? What do they do? Swimming with sharks?

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huh....they r more danger than shark.....hahhahahaa
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 11 2007, 04:55 PM)
tongue.gif Wow, hunting game. I'm glad I left already tongue.gif

You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy.  Always talk about alignment.  Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7.

Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7.  In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set.

Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia.

I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%).  And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left tongue.gif Much happier now.  icon_rolleyes.gif  thumbup.gif

P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment.
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had no idea the increment is that bad. what's it evaluated based on?
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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 15 2007, 12:38 PM)
had no idea the increment is that bad. what's it evaluated based on?
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2 things, your performance and your salary. They have a maximum salary level for a job grade, and the further up your salary is, the lower your increment.

Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%).

You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck.
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Apr 14 2007, 10:05 PM)
huh....they r more danger than shark.....hahhahahaa
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 15 2007, 10:31 PM)
Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%).

You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck.
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That's fair though - if you are in the same type of job and you perform similarily you should be earning roughly the same amount.

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 15 2007, 10:31 PM)
Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%).

You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck.
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What about those people who have been stating that the make 15k or 20k or whatever per month working on oil platforms abroad and stuff? Do they still get the same increment? Although I suppose many people here wouldn't mind a 3% increment on a 20k salary biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 16 2007, 12:24 PM)
What about those people who have been stating that the make 15k or 20k or whatever per month working on oil platforms abroad and stuff? Do they still get the same increment? Although I suppose  many people here wouldn't mind a 3% increment on a 20k salary biggrin.gif
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I am only specifically talking about SITI. I have no idea at what rate the platform people are in, but they are paid in US dollars and have allowances, so actually in USD terms the amount may be small (or comparable to what their compatriots are getting in US).

Bottom line, I don't know tongue.gif Anyway here can enlighten?

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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 15 2007, 10:31 PM)
2 things, your performance and your salary.  They have a maximum salary level for a job grade, and the further up your salary is, the lower your increment.

Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%).

You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck.
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so what constitutes to your performance then?
is it based on very clear-cut evaluation schemes? or project-based?
if it's project-based, how do they judge on long-term projects that might spand years?

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so what constitutes to your performance then?
is it based on very clear-cut evaluation schemes? or project-based?
if it's project-based, how do they judge on long-term projects that might span years?
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I don't know about project since I was in Operations. You basically try to meet ops KPIs and/or SLAs. Higher rating if you exceed expectations. SITI uses Gaussian (I think) distribution and tries to have a mean distribution of average.
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mean average.....
the higher u r from the mean....the better ur increament....
the lower u r....u know....;-)

as compared to some other scheme i heard....
where the bottom one wont get increament at all....
the scheme here ensure everyone is taken care of....
but....also.....in return.....
too comfort = slower progression......
ppl will improve better if they facing tough challenge right?
so i believe for certain group of ppl in shell....
they don really mind of working too hard.....

i could heard of some like "work hard, play hard"
but i think for some, it might be...."work soft, play hard"
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I though "work hard play hard" for Shell is an event? When it comes to friday afternoon, all the employee are required to go for sports activity. you can go for golf, yatch, tennis, bowling, pingpong......watever u like. Sometimes they even organize Mega WHPH, competition for the employees to play hard and win prizes. this is to balance their work and life, isn't that wonderful benefit?
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its a nice benefit.....
but i would say......
to some extent....

u know....there will be many kinds of ppl....
some will make good use of it....
some....will abuse it.....its human habits..... :-)
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Apr 19 2007, 12:19 AM)
its a nice benefit.....
but i would say......
to some extent....

u know....there will be many kinds of ppl....
some will make good use of it....
some....will abuse it.....its human habits..... :-)
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Agreed. But i just want to point out that benefit if compare to other company. Guess those who in KL that don't have their own Shell club, they will get conpensate for it? Coz, so far in Miri, almost all of them participate in it. Anyway, to optimize and maximize work performance, do work hard play hard. tongue.gif
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Work hard play hard....
work smart play smart.....

borrow sentences from Just Follow Law

More work more play
little work little play
no work no play.... tongue.gif
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Long time didn't drop by here and it ends up as Shell Lounge already.
Haha.
Anyway, I have some questions for Shell people about the job application status. I applied for Graduate program last year September 2006 and I didn't follow up after my phone interview cos I got another offer. Now I just went back there and checked to see that my status was in "Final Assessment". What does that mean? Next step is SRD already?

Is there any email or phone number where I can use to follow up with my application status? tongue.gif

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Hi everyone,

I will start work at Shell soon. I stay at Setapak... (the land far far away... ) but i don't plan to shift to cyberjaya or somewhere near dere... nor drive to cyberjaya... so i plan to take a bus... i heard dere is a Dedicated Transport System to Cyberjaya bus service...

Does anyone knows how good is their service? Is it reliable? Is there any other better transport? Tq...

Jackoz
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i think there got bus in Cyberjaya ..

near terminal ...try seek more information from your colleagues in Cyberjaya ..they know the bus ...some kind like express bus
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Jackoz: DTS requires monthly pass for about RMxxx, not sure 100++ or 200++. You have to check the route they pass by to know where to wait. I know lotsa HSBC staffs are taking that...

Else, you have bus from KL sentral to Putrajaya for RM4 and Putrajaya -> CBJ for RM 1. Both are 1 day unlimited rides pass.

Anyway, may I know if you applied for your post through Shell Career website? or agenciess? If it's the previous, how long did it take for them to contact you after your status turns "Final Assessment"?

Really curious ler.. I think mine was a mistake..it's kind of hopeless already.
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QUOTE(jackoz @ Apr 25 2007, 01:37 PM)
Hi everyone,

I will start work at Shell soon. I stay at Setapak... (the land far far away... ) but i don't plan to shift to cyberjaya or somewhere near dere... nor drive to cyberjaya... so i plan to take a bus... i heard dere is a Dedicated Transport System to Cyberjaya bus service...

Does anyone knows how good is their service? Is it reliable? Is there any other better transport? Tq...

Jackoz
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http://www.msc.com.my/xtras/misc/dts/index.asp

Don't be surprise that only about 5 - 9 from Shell IT is using this service. Majority are from HSBC, Motorola and E2P.

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Hi everyone,
need opinion and ur experience here.

i applied under grad scheme and went for the interview at damansara
after 3 days.. got an email.. told that i was shortlisted to SRD.
it was on Jan 07
but until now there is no reply.. sad.gif
Is it normal thing to wait this long for SRD?
should i email them asking or just wait?
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usually u guys who are in the "final assessment", will need to wait until there's a business requirements from any shell's entity(SITI, SPS, Trading, Global solutions...). Yes, sometimes, u will need to wait until 6 months before they call you up to go to SRD.
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hi all,

i want to ask your opinion here. what happens if a person gets graduate programme role(which she applied 6 months ago) and being offered to one of shell subsidiaries, and at the moment of offer, she already works as a contractor in another shell subsidiaries ?

Can she terminate the contract in the current role(with notices) and go to the grad role ?

need advise...quite sad if cant go to the grad programme because of this contract job. any pls ? or even the management person who reads this post earlier on ? sweat.gif

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from my experience ...ppl whom already worked in SHELL as contract staff ..u couldn't be transfer to other team ..unless u are already resigned from SHELL ..and apply the job in SHELL again .

if u are already permanent (not contract staff) , u can transfer to another team , using MYOR scheme ..try check with SHELL ppl

any SHELL ppl,
correct me if i'm wrong ..
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it's not transfer, it's like this : grad programme i apply and the process takes 7 months before i was invited to SRD...so half way while before reaching the 7 months ( wait too long liao ) i go into another contract job(under a agency), which was assigned to a shell subsidiaries. So while working under the contract job, suddenly they call me to go to SRD. So i go la. Then i got the grad thing....sigh. If i cant go into the grad programme because of this contract thing, i really rugi besar....GOD ar, help me...cry, cry, cry
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Why don't you try to talk with your interviewer or HR in SHELL? smile.gif
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u hav to check your contract with ur agency....

i recalled that my contract was restricting me from joining any other Shell subsidiries even if I resign or contract is terminated within 6/12 months. If that case happens, i think they hav the agreement to sue us and get compensate.........
look back ur contract and see how....
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Apr 30 2007, 07:33 AM)
u hav to check your contract with ur agency....

i recalled that my contract was restricting me from joining any other Shell subsidiries even if I resign or contract is terminated within 6/12 months. If that case happens, i think they hav the agreement to sue us and get compensate.........
look back ur contract and see how....
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thanks for the point ...and because of your point ...i resigned from SHELL after i know their way of treating their staff ...
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QUOTE(kevler @ Apr 30 2007, 09:42 AM)
thanks for the point ...and because of your point ...i resigned from SHELL after i know their way of treating their staff ...
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duh......its a point to protect the mutual of agency.....

jz imagine if the agency is doing the hard work to scout....spot....recruit the ppl.....then the ppl turn to the new company in short.....

example, u r FC manager, u spend dollars to get Euro permit for your player....
after the player got it, he jump to another club for free....would u happy wit that??
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well, in this case my fren is having problem with the shell entity rather than the agency...the agency is flexible.
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ok then......u cant do anything.....
big corporate.....
and so...u know....
the rules is set and hard to change.....
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hi kevler,

can you try to elaborate more ? please do enlighten things which we dont know yet....

QUOTE(kevler @ Apr 30 2007, 09:42 AM)
thanks for the point ...and because of your point ...i resigned from SHELL after i know their way of treating their staff ...
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kevler don like how shell treat him....so he left lo.....tongue.gif

anyway, my view is....every corporate is more or less the same....
that's employer....
hiring the best with lowest possible budget of coz save company a lot....
of coz...they still hav to provide adequate benefits to keep the ppl....
that point....i don see shell doing badly....
but flexibility....its another matter....
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QUOTE(shaquenator @ Apr 30 2007, 05:04 PM)
hi kevler,

   can you try to elaborate more ? please do enlighten things which we dont know yet....
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huhu..sorry for late reply..alot of job i need to be done before holiday ..hehehe

for your information , SHELL gives alot of opportunity for their staff in career development , but ....u need to be in the right team to get those chances to be promoted ... It means , u need to be in a team which give chance to be promoted to be permanent, earlier than we expected.

at my previous time in SHELL , i'm worked as a helpdesk which is annoying me . from the time i worked there , i never satisfy and i felt down ..because serving dumb-a s s user .

then i wanna try to be in Level 2 team , which is more into installation and deployment server . i know i could get the chance to go Level 2 . But i'm too impatient...and i left SHELL to expand my career . And now ..i love my team .i love my company which gives me freedom to handle machine.

the moral is = if u are technical person and love to touch hardware and deployment in server , please dont take the job as helpdesk ...later u will look down onto yourself .




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ghee.......kevler......
luckily u didn't......
coz u might become 1 of those i tembak everyday......at level 2... tongue.gif
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hahahah...because level 2 ppl get chance to have training in Netherland and US ...

p/s dinozilla .. are u UNIX/LINUX helpdesk ? Level 2 team also tembak helpdesk team if escalate wrong ticket ...wahahaha
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aiya.....u heard i said i tembak level 2 right....
how would helpdesk go tembak level 2......
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ May 1 2007, 10:15 PM)
aiya.....u heard i said i tembak level 2 right....
how would helpdesk go tembak level 2......
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hahah..u get me wrong already laugh.gif

Level 2 will shoot helpdesk when helpdesk escalated wrong ticket to Level 2 team ...unless helpdesk are too brilliant to solve it by themselves. nod.gif
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thanks kevler....maybe that helpdesk department is really not that good i guess....
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QUOTE(kevler @ May 1 2007, 11:46 PM)
hahah..u get me wrong already  laugh.gif

Level 2 will shoot helpdesk when helpdesk escalated wrong ticket to Level 2 team ...unless helpdesk are too brilliant to solve it by themselves.  nod.gif
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so u got me wrong too..... biggrin.gif

level 2 shoot helpdesk when they wrongly escalate
so same logic.....who shoot level 2 if lvl2 wrongly escalate.... tongue.gif
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dinozilla,
I probably know you. I shot Lvl 2 people b4 also biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dinozilla @ May 2 2007, 02:03 PM)
so u got me wrong too..... biggrin.gif

level 2 shoot helpdesk when they wrongly escalate
so same logic.....who shoot level 2 if lvl2 wrongly escalate.... tongue.gif
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i am working there haha, although i dont work directly with level 2 people i work with service management team.

I shoot them when they simply pass ticket to me biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kevler @ Apr 30 2007, 08:26 PM)
huhu..sorry for late reply..alot of job i need to be done before holiday ..hehehe

for your information , SHELL gives alot of opportunity for their staff in career development , but ....u need to be in the right team to get those chances to be promoted ... It means , u need to be in a team which give chance to be promoted to be permanent, earlier than we expected.

at my previous time in SHELL , i'm worked as a helpdesk which is annoying me . from the time i worked there , i never satisfy and i felt down ..because serving dumb-a s s user .

then i wanna try to be in Level 2 team , which is more into installation and deployment server . i know i could get the chance to go Level 2 . But i'm too impatient...and i left SHELL to expand my career . And now ..i love my team .i love my company which gives me freedom to handle machine.

the moral is = if u are technical person and love to touch hardware and deployment in server , please dont take the job as helpdesk ...later u will look down onto yourself .
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You have explained your own decision process very well. You chose the wrong job for you and you were impatient. Well, you can blame the employer for that can you? And what's wrong serving "dumb a s s users"? Remember - in the area of their expertise - you're about just as "dumb a s s" if not worse as they are to you from the IT perspective.
Actually helpdesk experience helps enormously later on in the career. This is when you know how to deal with non technical people and explain different technical aspects in "layman's terms". You also know how to deal with angry people correctly. You may not see the benefit right now, but give it another 5 or 10 years and that knowledge always comes back as very useful and valuable.

Of course Shell and any other big employer has to require some time committment from the staff. Ususally helpdesk staff has to commit for a relatively short periods. On the other hand - 2nd and 3rd line support positions are generally quite well filled, so unless someone moves away - they don't have a spare position to "promote" the helpdesk analyst.

You have to think outside of your own cubicle and take a lot of aspects into the perspective.

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QUOTE(Polishman @ May 5 2007, 12:14 AM)
You have explained your own decision process very well. You chose the wrong job for you and you were impatient. Well, you can blame the employer for that can you? And what's wrong serving "dumb a s s users"? Remember - in the area of their expertise - you're about just as "dumb a s s" if not worse as they are to you from the IT perspective.
Actually helpdesk experience helps enormously later on in the career. This is when you know how to deal with non technical people and explain different technical aspects in "layman's terms". You also know how to deal with angry people correctly. You may not see the benefit right now, but give it another 5 or 10 years and that knowledge always comes back as very useful and valuable.

Of course Shell and any other big employer has to require some time committment from the staff. Ususally helpdesk staff has to commit for a relatively short periods. On the other hand - 2nd and 3rd line support positions are generally quite well filled, so unless someone moves away - they don't have a spare position to "promote" the helpdesk analyst.

You have to think outside of your own cubicle and take a lot of aspects into the perspective.
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right now , i know my own career path ......i never love to be helpdesk and serving dumbass user ...i'm used to be in technical field before, and that's why i never wannabe helpdesk ...

i'm more understanding machines language rather than understanding annoying user.

machines never bragging me ...machine will give error msg in /var/log/messages or syslog.log , and i know how to fix it ...not fixing other ppl problemo .

do you know why i'm working as helpdesk in SHELL before ..? this is because they never stated the word "helpdesk" in job description in order to make it vague , and they also never clear about job scope when i went to the interview.

Maybe other ppl might get the same situation like me ..but life goes on ..and now i know where i'm standing now .

FYI, i got promoted for Full Time Contract but i declined it , because SHELL wants me to be in the helpdesk team for 2 years ...damned ...for the moment i realized the fact , i try to go away from helpdesk department .

p/s i dont know whether u are in helpdesk department in SHELL or not ..but for me , i never love helpdesk field ... and it keeps me down everytime the calls come in .damned

for those who dont wanna serve whining user like call-center in Tmnet , just stay away from it ...
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post May 5 2007, 02:47 AM

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dun lar say ppl dumbass... bcuz of them many ppl can hav their rice bowl (to helpdesk at least)... i was in helpdesk (not in shell), sometime might pissed off, because some users are very rude and too demanding. but i would say not many ppl have the 'gift' (the nicest word i can think of) to become helpdesk though... at least EQ must high nuf... biggrin.gif

may be for those who going for interview in shell, gotta ask in detail and make sure the position is what u want.... hmm.gif

This post has been edited by vicfirth: May 5 2007, 02:49 AM

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