Are u already work in SHELL now ? Then what department u working for ?

i'm just waiting for SHELL to initialize their outsourcing thingy

hehe..nothing ..

SHELL will adopt outsourcing end of this year ...i just hope SHELL will pick their best outsource company to maintain their business

not just SITI but the whole GITI

SITI = SHELL IT Infrastructure

GITI = Global IT Infrastructure

ok ...*OFFTOPIC*

The reason behind outsoucing is for the company (Shell) to concentrate on their core business and outsource non-core function which would be done more cost effective with higher efficiency. It is expected that some cost savings are realized in the long run and it is easier for the Company to only monitor the performance of the outsourced party through Service Level Agreement (SLA).

In most cases, it is almost like saying that after the outsourcing has been decided, the company do not want to retain the existing staff in the related services and as such would transfer them to the outsourced company. Therefore there would normally be a deal or arrangement that would be made between the outsourced party and the company to take whatever staff involved in the existing operations. Under normal practice, the staff who are required to be transferred should be offered similar terms if not better than the terms currently enjoyed. In many cases there will be few staff who would not want to accept the transfer but it is not known what kind of work they would do if the choose to stay in their existing company.

There are many success stories about outsourcing, i.e both companies, achieve win-win. However in other cases, the service tend to deteriorate and the company decide to terminate the contract and take back all the staff.

Therefore my advise is if you cannot choose to stay in Shell, then get the union to negotiate for a really good deal before signing any offer. It is common that the allowances previously enjoyed in Shell may not be offered by the new company, but in exchange the staff would receive higher salary like, say 25% to 50% or increase depending on which allowance is taken away. In any case it is best to negotiate thoroughly before agreeing to the transfer. Once you accept, then you are no longer Shell staff.


moral = IT is SHELL non-core business even they built infrastructure in SITI SHELL CYBERJAYA.SHELL always remain as oil&gas company, not IT company like Google or HP. Thus we have to accept their decision for outsourcing thingy.

SHELL only give permanent status to management ppl , oil&gas engineer, reservoir engineer , geophysicist engineer , geologist engineer and so forth .

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please gimme some examples.

not IT = management , accounting ?

hehe..no big deal ..

i hope all the helpdesk ppl can go to another team ...i'm ex-helpdesk in SHELL before ..cannot tahan with stupid user ...so i joined engineering team in another company ..i dont want to waste my talent

i agreed with some point u gave.

they are just follow what runbook (manual) says ., then they work on those incident/case.

i'm glad out from SHELL ,because i never love to be helpdesk/CSA , frank from my heart.

CSA = customer service agent

p/s is it same with CSA/CSC company ? wahahahah


my advice : learn the rules , because rules are made to be broken

be mat rempit laa ...ride the bike ...even i'm having more salary nowadays , i'm still travel with my bike

u know why ? there's alot of reason

1. pracktical and efficient
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p/s after i got 5 figure salary ..then i will think to buy car

This post has been edited by kevler: Mar 28 2007, 10:50 AM

yerp ...very near ...but if company want me to be on-site then i will use car..

u know why ...? i can claim mileage from my company

p/s it's a nice day to be alive

haha..u will know and learn more what is COBIT, SOX ,HIPAA , BS7799,ISO17799 , export compliance, yada yada , blabla

trust domain too

please cover yourself with all those what i told u ,

sorry to say ..but i'm not working at SHELL anymore ..

because SHELL not 100% IT company

not quite sure dude , because i'm not in security team .

maybe they do that to prevent any security violation when they do audit , who knows

not even a year


because SHELL have its own business in many field ==> refinery, services, chemical, engineering and so forth .

Like HP and IBM, they concentrate 100% in IT industry and i cleared of what business nature they running now


i left SHELL not because of SHELL itself , it is because i dont like the environment in my department , being call-center guy , some of my friend got f*ck from user whom called ..damned ..some more i'm suprise that in job description, they never mention about helpdesk or call center ...sh*t , they used another word to cover what operation looks like ...e.g technical support , consultant , damned


Bonus is for SHELL permanent , and at time , i'm just a contract staff , furthermore SHELL wanna outsource , i feel sad for those ppl whom wanna convert to permanent but can't get it , UNLESS , they try to join another department to get permanent status , like security computer operation .



it's ok .. no hassle

this incoming June or July , SHELL ppl will be using vista as their desktop ..hope there's more and more excitement not severe

oo...it means they defer the launching of the new desktop laa ...

ok ..thanks for that ...i thought SHELL or GI-NG team wanna deferred their new desktop launch , because of too many head-ache on vista's script

huhu

try apply for EP team (Exploration and Production) in UK , or what we called as SHELL UK EP (SUKEP)

bright future in EP team ...alot of benefits

whole GITI will be fully affected.

gud luck for seeking job @ SHELL

try check with headhunter like micom,hesper,techsap dan so forth.

last but not least

car allowance 1000 per month

later u able to buy Impreza