we consumers just want all to innovate. that includes saling copy mengopy antara satu sama lain. patents are anti competitive and to me should be abolished. i copy u, then innovate, followed by u copy me, then innovate. the old fashion competition. consumers benefit what.

im amazed that this thread can last till 51 pages...tremendously long...if it just a matter of choice, then pls close it. It sucks when is going to nowhere and the thread seem diverting to its main title....wtf samsung iphone battle got to do with this...???

im amazed that this thread can last till 51 pages...tremendously long...if it just a matter of choice, then pls close it. It sucks when is going to nowhere and the thread seem diverting to its main title....wtf samsung iphone battle got to do with this...???

Haha, it had become so kind of of iOS VS Android as title

we consumers just want all to innovate. that includes saling copy mengopy antara satu sama lain. patents are anti competitive and to me should be abolished. i copy u, then innovate, followed by u copy me, then innovate. the old fashion competition. consumers benefit what.

i don't have an iphone, but i have a ipad. maybe those iphone users can list what iphone 4s can DO that a....., lets say take the most popular brand now,.... samsung s3 cannot. i not really looking for features, but what it can really do. for example if u say retina display, ok that's good, but retina display doens't make u do anything. or if u say "less lag". ok that's good, but less lag doesn't make u do anything.

btw, this is a geniune question (i really want to know - ok maybe i already know coz an ipad is nearly like an iphone, but i don't claim to know everything). but i know it will heat things up. but what the hell.

i don't have an iphone, but i have a ipad. maybe those iphone users can list what iphone 4s can DO that a....., lets say take the most popular brand now,.... samsung s3 cannot. i not really looking for features, but what it can really do. for example if u say retina display, ok that's good, but retina display doens't make u do anything. or if u say "less lag". ok that's good, but less lag doesn't make u do anything.

btw, this is a geniune question (i really want to know - ok maybe i already know coz an ipad is nearly like an iphone, but i don't claim to know everything). but i know it will heat things up. but what the hell.

I don't think it's fair to compare the 4s and S3 because one is based on last year's technology, one was manufactured this year.

Maybe the unique thing about Apple iPhone is, they have lesser buttons on the device. Take the shortcut keys from Samsung or Android device for example, the two 'touch sensitive' button beside the home button. Yeah, Apple don't have those, makes it unique in a way that a simple home button on the surface is good enough because our home buttons are multifunctional. Just my two cents.

Android fans have this idea that great innovations and ideas from Apple should be shared with android for the good of the consumers! They think that copying is good for the consumers as it make the product cheaper.

But when is copycat ever good for the consumers? Copying kills innovation as it results in nothing new.  Innovations happens when you are force to make something different and better.

Duh.  Wasn't it Jobs who said, "We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."?

Steve Jobs said, “Good artists copy great artists steal"


When Picasso and later SJ said it, they meant that every artist is influenced by what has been done before their time. If not by direct exposure, the information the artist is exposed to through other people, media, etc. influences them. We are all a product of our times and have the benefit of those who have walked similar paths we are now on.

We all borrow because it has all been done before and we are not the originators. To merely copy is to take an existing interpretation and not run away with it. To steal an idea is to take something of value and make it yours. To make an artistic element yours you have to interpret it your way with your own approach.

This cannot be done when you are merely copying the idea. When copying the idea you are just doing everything exactly like it was previously done. When you have done it your way you have used the element and not simply duplicated it.

It is not required that you advance the element. You can go sideways and even backwards with the idea and you can be stealing the element and not copying it. On the contrary, when merely copying the element you have failed if you do not match the original

Sometimes I really cant under these Americans writing all these crap. They rather a foreign company copy an American idea just so that they can play with their little Samsungs......

ya know what, get both . Best of both world    

ok use iphone 5 then. but it will be more theory coz its not out yet. or use ios 6 since the beta is out. the point is use the latest.

lesser buttons are good, but i am looking at a result oriented perspective. coz we sometimes use our phones to get results.

let me give u one, but is for ipad. when i want to display the multitask panel, i can do it faster with the ipad. coz i just take 4 fingers and push it up to display the multitask panel. on my s3, i have to press the home button for about 1 - 2 seconds to make that happen. of course i have installed some third party tools so that now i just need to double tap a spot at the extreme side of the screen to display multitask screen, but that feature is not on stock s3. so the results is , on stock ipad it allows me to do a faster switch to another running app than s3.

2 most important patents that Apple hold against Android.  Pinch to zoom and Double tap to zoom. 

This little things that Apple created is the main reasons phones becomes so useful today and android fans took it for granted and assume it is theirs to use freely.

Take away this features from Android and S3 or Note 2 or Nexus will be useless.