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 Peugeot 408......, Launching Soon ? Now with pics... :D

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post Nov 28 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 28 2012, 07:11 PM)
anione cruising this car at 180km/h to 200km/h for a long time?
like from melaka going to JB...
just wana make sure whether the turbo can handle for this long period?
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How many AES speeding ticket you intend pickup in one journey?

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post Nov 28 2012, 10:49 PM

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Within KL and PJ, which is the better SC?
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QUOTE(zumaidi @ Nov 28 2012, 04:51 PM)
Plan to change fabric to leather for 408 2.0 ?

Newton Leather Industries Sdn. Bhd is offering RM2,450 for 408 model. Promotion until 15th December 2012.

You may call Ms. Loo 016-210 2502

http://www.newtonleather.com/

or is there any better offer ?
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Thanks for the tip but wanted to know if any Pug users had done so without any warranty impact.


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post Nov 29 2012, 12:16 AM

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it's not about how many ticket i get...
It's about sometimes we nid to rush to 1 place...
as my job require me to travel always...
i dun wana end up being towed back to SC...
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true true....in that case you'll need something very reliable and can go very fast. Cost no issue, yes?

QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 29 2012, 12:16 AM)
it's not about how many ticket i get...
It's about sometimes we nid to rush to 1 place...
as my job require me to travel always...
i dun wana end up being towed back to SC...
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post Nov 29 2012, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 28 2012, 09:41 AM)
in singapore, P408 is selling at $151,800  (turbo, don't think the 2.0 NA is available) above Volkswagen Jetta selling from : $143,800 and the popular Toyota Corolla Altis$133,988, Honda Civic from $141,900, Nissan Sylphy from $120,800, Ford Focus from $137,888 and  Mazda 3 from $135,988.... almost the price of Nissan Qashqai from $153,800

Now if you are a Singaporean, and not as lucky as Malaysian in term having such good pricing, what would u do?


Added on November 28, 2012, 9:59 amiN CHINA

Again Pricing see below

http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/peugeot-408/
2013 Peugeot 408 from Dongfeng Peugeot Citroen (DPCA)
   1.6 MT  1.6 AT      2.0 MT  2.0 AT  2.0 MT Deluxe    2.0 AT Deluxe  2.0 AT Premium
Price: MSRP (Chinese Yuan)   126,900 136,900    131,900     143,900     145,900           157,900  171,900

http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/faw-volkswagen-jetta/
2012 FAW-Volkswagen Jetta   1.6 MT 1  1.6 MT 2  1.6 MT 3
Price: MSRP (Chinese Yuan)   75,800  80,800  88,800

http://chinaautoweb.com/car-models/changan-ford-focus-sedan/
2012 Changan Ford Focus Sedan 1.6 MT 1 1.6 AT 1  1.6 MT 2  1.6 AT 2  1.6 AT 3  2.0 AT
MSRP (Chinese Yuan)   119,900 130,900     132,900  143,900  154,900  169,900
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Wow, quite a significant price different. Since I'm on a strict budget control, I would've choose Focus or Mazda 3. If budget is not a constraint, I would've choose a 408 or a Focus(depending on their specs over there). I haven't driven any VW yet but I find it to be too 'mainstream' for my liking. Well, exception goes for the CC (and the new Beetle maybe?).

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QUOTE(joeaggas @ Nov 29 2012, 02:45 AM)
true true....in that case you'll need something very reliable and can go very fast. Cost no issue, yes?
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sounds like need a golf gti nod.gif
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post Nov 29 2012, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(lowpro @ Nov 28 2012, 05:37 PM)
nolah, just want to make sure that we aren't short changed on specs for a malaysian assembled car. but it has been confirmed that it is same already.
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post Nov 29 2012, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Nov 28 2012, 10:49 PM)
Within KL and PJ, which is the better SC?
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I am told there is no difference at any of the branches nation wide. That should be the case as the SCs are set up as Peugeot Blue Box. If a branch is unable to handle a particular issue on a car,then the team of floating experts is called in.

I have tried PJ and will now try Seremban branch for my 10K servive. Having said this,I understand many have been very satisfied at Balakong SC!


Added on November 29, 2012, 11:03 am
QUOTE(Str33tBoY @ Nov 28 2012, 07:11 PM)
anione cruising this car at 180km/h to 200km/h for a long time?
like from melaka going to JB...
just wana make sure whether the turbo can handle for this long period?
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You don't need to worry,this engine is well built to handle those speeds for long spells. However our roads are not safe for those speeds,there's too much traffic. Road conditions are poor that you'll bouncing like a race horse! I did get up to 180km/h on LEKAS hwy for almost the entire stretch, no problems at all. My engine is still ticking away like a Swiss watch!

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SKYjack, why the distance? PJ and Seremban? unless you work or stay within the area.
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Nov 29 2012, 11:04 AM)
SKYjack, why the distance? PJ and Seremban? unless you work or stay within the area.
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You nailed it, bro!
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post Nov 29 2012, 12:17 PM

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Hi All,
I have been following this particular thread since June 2012 after I had first glimpse on the Pug 408 Turbo back then. I have driven the Pug 408 Turbo for already 4 times in 2 diff Sales office as part of my survey. And not forgotten other C segment cars during this 5 month survey too. But my eyes never leave this car since the first day I saw it. I started to read this thread and discuss with my peers and also compare with other C segment cars. I would say it is really beneficial to have this kind of thread for a person who really want to buy this car or get knowledge of this particular car. I didnt follow up much with other thread opened for other C-segment cars in lowyat forum but I did some basic findings on other cars.Thanks to all of you guys for indirectly help me to finally book this car. I am waiting for the approval of the loan currently.
I hope I will more active after this to give my inputs or get feedback too
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 29 2012, 10:39 AM)
I am told there is no difference at any of the branches nation wide. That should be the case as the SCs are set up as Peugeot Blue Box. If a branch is unable to handle a particular issue on a car,then the team of floating experts is called in.

I have tried PJ and will now try Seremban branch for my 10K servive. Having said this,I understand many have been very satisfied at Balakong SC!


Added on November 29, 2012, 11:03 am
You don't need to worry,this engine is well built to handle those speeds for long spells. However our roads are not safe for those speeds,there's too much traffic. Road conditions are poor that you'll bouncing like a race horse!  I did get up to 180km/h on LEKAS hwy for almost the entire stretch, no problems at all. My engine is still ticking away like a Swiss watch!
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With any turbo engine, the cooling down is extremely important. Idling the car for a few minutes is not a good cooling down after such prolonged high speed run. What you need to do is not go into boost and have air flow to the radiator, engine and turbo.

What you need to do is simply cruise at around 80 - 100 kph about 5 minutes . Usually that means after you got off the highway just drive sedately. The problem is if after the toll you encounter traffic jam where the traffic isn't moving. In such situation you are getting air flow merely from the radiator fan. And it is hot air coming from the exhaust of the traffic in front of you.
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QUOTE(kejusan @ Nov 29 2012, 08:10 AM)
Wow, quite a significant price different. Since I'm on a strict budget control, I would've choose Focus or Mazda 3. If budget is not a constraint, I would've choose a 408 or a Focus(depending on their specs over there). I haven't driven any VW yet but I find it to be too 'mainstream' for my liking. Well, exception goes for the CC (and the new Beetle maybe?).
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Most Malaysian gets very excited over owning a VW ( and now increasingly Ford) but overlook the fact that both brands are actually not that big a deal elsewhere in the world. They are like you say mainstream. The above pricing perhaps can explain why VW is popular in china because at 76~89k RMB/Yuan... VW Jetta 1.6 MT is so affordable even then Japanese cars <a Nissan sylphy 1.6 MT @100k min while Honda Civic 1.8 MT/ToyotaCorolla is 124k to 130 k min there . If I am a Chinese - a China Chinese, I will buy a VW at any given day. So I disagree with others claiming popularity is not a function of pricing but rather branding. I challenge them to give concrete evidence of their claim. For start I put forth another case this time out neighbour Thailand p408 is selling at THB 1080,000 (2.0NA) and THB1,250,000 (1.6 turbo) compare to ford focus selling at THB549,000 to THB689,000 for 4 door Sport and THB759,000 to THB1,079,000 for 5 door sedan which is comparable to Japs Nissan New Sylphy/ Honda Civic and Toyota Altis. I believe it is about positioning. VW position them self very differently in the rest of Asia and SEA compare to China And USA and Europe. They position themselves as premium brand here and sell them with such approach and reflect that in pricing ...smart Germans !
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 29 2012, 01:01 PM)
Most Malaysian gets very excited over owning a VW ( and now increasingly Ford) but overlook the fact that both brands are actually not that big a deal elsewhere in the world. They are like you say mainstream. The above pricing perhaps can explain why VW is popular in china because at 76~89k RMB/Yuan... VW Jetta 1.6 MT is so affordable even then Japanese cars <a Nissan sylphy 1.6 MT @100k min while Honda Civic 1.8 MT/ToyotaCorolla is 124k to 130 k min  there . If I am a Chinese - a China Chinese, I will buy a VW at any given day. So I disagree with others claiming popularity is not a function of pricing but rather branding. I challenge them to give concrete evidence of their claim. For start I put forth another case this time out neighbour Thailand p408 is selling at THB 1080,000 (2.0NA) and THB1,250,000 (1.6 turbo) compare to ford focus selling at THB549,000 to THB689,000 for 4 door Sport and THB759,000 to THB1,079,000 for 5 door sedan which is comparable to Japs Nissan New Sylphy/ Honda Civic and Toyota Altis.  I  believe it is about positioning. VW position them self very differently in the rest of Asia and SEA compare to China And USA and Europe. They position themselves as premium brand here and sell them with such approach and reflect that in pricing ...smart Germans !
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Meaning to say, Peugeot is accepted as a premium brand elsewhere in SEA?

Well, I'm not sure about public perception on Pug but most of my colleagues was suprised when they know that 408 2.0 only cost 110k. They expect the price to be more expensive than its Japanese rival.
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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Nov 29 2012, 01:01 PM)
Most Malaysian gets very excited over owning a VW ( and now increasingly Ford) but overlook the fact that both brands are actually not that big a deal elsewhere in the world. They are like you say mainstream. The above pricing perhaps can explain why VW is popular in china because at 76~89k RMB/Yuan... VW Jetta 1.6 MT is so affordable even then Japanese cars <a Nissan sylphy 1.6 MT @100k min while Honda Civic 1.8 MT/ToyotaCorolla is 124k to 130 k min  there . If I am a Chinese - a China Chinese, I will buy a VW at any given day. So I disagree with others claiming popularity is not a function of pricing but rather branding. I challenge them to give concrete evidence of their claim. For start I put forth another case this time out neighbour Thailand p408 is selling at THB 1080,000 (2.0NA) and THB1,250,000 (1.6 turbo) compare to ford focus selling at THB549,000 to THB689,000 for 4 door Sport and THB759,000 to THB1,079,000 for 5 door sedan which is comparable to Japs Nissan New Sylphy/ Honda Civic and Toyota Altis.  I  believe it is about positioning. VW position them self very differently in the rest of Asia and SEA compare to China And USA and Europe. They position themselves as premium brand here and sell them with such approach and reflect that in pricing ...smart Germans !
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I agree that one of the reasons why Peugeot isn't exactly doing well in the ASEAN region such as Thailand or Indonesia has a lot to do their pricing but it's a different story in Europe. Peugeots are priced cheaper than VW and to a certain extend Ford. So based on both pricing and quality offered, they should easily be the no.1 selling brand in the whole of Europe but they aren't.

It's a given that VW is sold more expensive in UK so let's look at Ford. With the exception of the new Fiesta, everything from the Focus to the Mondeo is easily more expensive than what Peugeot is offering. The 308T is to Focus as is the 508 is to the Mondeo.

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2012/11/20/...back-in-top-10/

The chart itself is self explanatory, the only Peugeot car that sells well in the top 10 category is the model 208 and that's actually more expensive than the VW Polo and the new Ford Fiesta. But the 308T isn't a bad car either, so why isn't it on the top 10 list and yet the more expensive Ford Focus is?

Looking at the local market, the 408 is definitely selling well thanks to its awesome price. The same can't be said for the Jetta where it is priced in a very D-segment region. But in Singapore, the pricing of a VW Jetta and the 408 is very close to each other, almost to the point of negligible, but yet it's the Jetta that's selling well compared to the 408. Surely it has to do with the pricing to some extent but it's not realistic to entirely nail the fault down to pricing.

I don't know what it is, but for some reason, Peugeots have never had the sort of image that people would call appealing. Maybe its the brand, maybe it's positioning or something else entirely. Even if you look at online UK car reviews, reviewers have also stated Peugeots as having lesser resale value despite being well featured and cheaper. Perhaps, it's just reasonable to say that Peugeot suffer from a perception problem.
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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Nov 29 2012, 11:09 AM)
You nailed it, bro!
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stay in pj and work in seremban or the other way round?
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thx bro SKY for the constructive input...
good to hear that as i heard turbo will blow or burn after long period of using...
maybe that was the old turbo...
if dis turbo reali can last for a long journey drive...
den it is good to be in my consideration...
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For those not in a hurry to buy a new car, the upcoming Kia Forte K3 might be a good choice. I hope they bring in the 2.0L version. Quite a powerful engine from the specs. 173Hp, 209Nm torque for a normal petrol engine.
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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Nov 29 2012, 04:49 PM)
I agree that one of the reasons why Peugeot isn't exactly doing well in the ASEAN region such as Thailand or Indonesia has a lot to do their pricing but it's a different story in Europe. Peugeots are priced cheaper than VW and to a certain extend Ford. So based on both pricing and quality offered, they should easily be the no.1 selling brand in the whole of Europe but they aren't.

It's a given that VW is sold more expensive in UK so let's look at Ford. With the exception of the new Fiesta, everything from the Focus to the Mondeo is easily more expensive than what Peugeot is offering. The 308T is to Focus as is the 508 is to the Mondeo.

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2012/11/20/...back-in-top-10/

The chart itself is self explanatory, the only Peugeot car that sells well in the top 10 category is the model 208 and that's actually more expensive than the VW Polo and the new Ford Fiesta. But the 308T isn't a bad car either, so why isn't it on the top 10 list and yet the more expensive Ford Focus is?

Looking at the local market, the 408 is definitely selling well thanks to its awesome price. The same can't be said for the Jetta where it is priced in a very D-segment region. But in Singapore, the pricing of a VW Jetta and the 408 is very close to each other, almost to the point of negligible, but yet it's the Jetta that's selling well compared to the 408. Surely it has to do with the pricing to some extent but it's not realistic to entirely nail the fault down to pricing.

I don't know what it is, but for some reason, Peugeots have never had the sort of image that people would call appealing. Maybe its the brand, maybe it's positioning or something else entirely. Even if you look at online UK car reviews, reviewers have also stated Peugeots as having lesser resale value despite being well featured and cheaper. Perhaps, it's just reasonable to say that Peugeot suffer from a perception problem.
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Checking your statements....It's a given that VW is sold more expensive in UK so let's look at Ford. (first it is not right to use UK as representation of the whole europe...for one Germany has a population of 81.8 m compare to France of 65.35m and UK of 62.26m, ok?)

With the exception of the new Fiesta, everything from the Focus to the Mondeo is easily more expensive than what Peugeot is offering. The 308T is to Focus as is the 508 is to the Mondeo.

( oops.gif is it now? nope not true , see below
Ford Fiesta 1.25 starts from €11.500,-
Focus 1.4 starts from €15.500,
Focus 1.6 starts from €16.500
Focus 1.8 starts from €18.000,
Focus 2.0 starts from €20.000,-

I would actually call it cheaper than ...
Peugeot 208 1.2 VTi from €11.600,
Peugeot 308 1.4 VTi from €15.700,
Peugeot 308 1.4 VTi 70 (95) 1397 3,5 Premium €15.700,-
Peugeot 308 1.6 VTi 88 (120) from €19.450, other variances from €22,250 to €25,850 ,



http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/2012/11/20/...back-in-top-10/

The chart itself is self explanatory, the only Peugeot car that sells well in the top 10 category is the model 208 (because selling price of Peugeot 208 1.2 VTi starts from ... only €11.600) and that's actually more expensive than the VW Polo ( oops.gif nope VW Polo 1.2 starts from €12.450 and the new Ford Fiesta -Fiesta 1.25 from € 11.500) But the 308T isn't a bad car either, so why isn't it on the top 10 list and yet the more expensive Ford Focus is?

(308t is selling at 308 150 THP 110 (150) 1598 3,5 Premium €22.250, Ford focus? Focus 1.6 Ti-VCT 85 (115) 1596 3,5 Premium €18.750,-
Focus 1.8 92 (125) 1796 3,5 Premium €18.000 , again, which is more expensive?)

Looking at the local market, the 408 is definitely selling well thanks to its awesome price. (agree nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif) The same can't be said for the Jetta where it is priced in a very D-segment region. (agree nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif) But in Singapore, the pricing of a VW Jetta and the 408 is very close to each other , almost to the point of negligible, but yet it's the Jetta that's selling well compared to the 408. (I Would not call SGD 151.8k P408 is close to SGD143.8k Jetta , and SGD 8k difference is neglible, after all it is 5.5% difference oops.gif )

Surely it has to do with the pricing to some extent but it's not realistic to entirely nail the fault down to pricing.

source: http://www.cars-of-europe.com/

Perception? French have it tough really you can ask any Englishman, British, Aussies, and the rest of the former Bristish colony people (M'sia and Singapore included), chances are well older generation may be not the gen Y , what is a familiar expression from Brits when it comes to French car? they always gives it a thumbs down (well english and French never really get along that well, they fought a 100 year battle before, but i would not want to give history lesson today...so as a result we have some pre-conceived idea about French cars being ex-british colony and all)

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