Yes the 408 is here. I was looking to get a used 407, but as soon as I got wind of the 408 and that too at $110k, just couldn't wait to see it in real life. Come launch day I was the early bird googling the 408 as if it was my prise calf.  You know what? I actually got disappointed. The car looked like a pumped up Vios. Man....that was a major setback for me,it was no where near the sleek  looks of the 407. However locked my disappointed emotions and took the turbo for a spin. This is when the smile came back to my face. The power,handling and feel were amazing. The 407 has very good handling, but with this car, Peugeot has raised the bar. The feedback by electro hydraulic steering is so precise, and has been tuned to the right tautness. There's heck of power ready at the tap to kick serious ass! The car is packed with various safety features which is important when you unleash those wild horses. I'm sold, the 407 may be a great looker,but the 408 takes you to another dimension in driving dynamics!Made my booking for the turbo today!

Hi bro, was told I'll get the car in 3 weeks. No price discount. Free Gamin GPS and $400 voucher for windscreen tint. Didn't ask for anything else!
As far as segments go, both these cars are kind of untraditional. . 407 being 2 litre falls in D but has a rather tight interior. The 408 NA also 2 litre falls in C,but has quite a comfortable and large interior. So want criteria sets the segments,especially when these 2 are concern.
Anyway my choice more than comparison was purely made on financial basis. I had looked at and in mind a 09 407 costing $90k. The 408 NA is priced at $110k. In reality the difference is much less than the apparent $20K and this is how it goes.
 Loan on old cars are higher,thus the monthly payments will differ very marginally. The 407 is 3 years on, no warranty and will have maintenance issues that I've got to stick out on top of the 90k!!! The decision was to get the 408 NA as it is brand new,5year warranty, at the end of loan period the margin would be even more narrow by virtue of lower interest on 408 loan. I know it's apple and orange here, but my point is value for money! 
Now all this was decided behind the arm chair. Inreal life and after the test drive, logic flew out of the window. Just got hooked on the turbo

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Added on May 29, 2012, 12:59 pmTks for the warning bro. Yes I did a fair bid of research, am aware of the problems on the former THPs. From that time had decided to bypass the THP and actually go for the NA. I don't think all THPs are problematic and I'm quite surprised with the problem on your 508. 
On the other hand the EW10A engine has been quite reliable and as you know it's been tweaked for the 408 NA.This is the one I had set my eyes on,not the THP. 
However the THP apparently has been give a serious make over and puts out a few more horses than the one in the 508. I understand all the previous issues are successfully addressed, or at least they say! It was the damn test drive of this engine. It was like a bug bit me and I was in a trance,I just wanted it, nothing else made sense! 
Here's my take on the whole story. It's not the same THP. 5 year warranty is comforting.I've taken the plunge,hopefully all goes well. I am prepared for the unexpected! I think if you are not prepared for some pain then a conti is not your game! Plenty of plain Janes in the market! Nevertheless I appreciate your input and hope the same fate does not bestow upon me,touch wood! Hope you plug your leaky fella!

Peugeots are good to drive! You're sooooo damn right on this one!

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I went with the 408 NA firmly in mind. In Seramban they only had the turbo unit,so tested it. The rest of the story you know la. After that I was not interested in the NA at all. Btw bro, the difference in monthly payment is oly $100+ don't forget road tax is $300 cheaper. So do consider the turbo seriously,and you may get tired of the NA due to it's low power.

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Added on May 30, 2012, 11:28 pmBro kenso kena Kau kau on the turbo already, now having nightmares la.....hehehe! Anyway after reading all the reports on 308 THP problems, I too firmly kept away form the turbo. Even after reading this THP as been given a serious make over and all issues settled,I was skecipital. If the problems still persist,then I guess I've made the wrong choice! I'll cross that bridge if I come to it. Hopefully not,touch wood!
The steering feel was one very strong reason for me to get this model. It was so precise and accurate!I'm not one who tears down the road,but good to know you have on the tap when you need it.

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I went with the 408 NA firmly in mind. In Seramban they only had the turbo unit,so tested it. The rest of the story you know la. After that I was not interested in the NA at all. Btw bro, the difference in monthly payment is oly $100+ don't forget road tax is $300 cheaper. So do consider the turbo seriously,and you may get tired of the NA due to it's low power.

Road tax is yearly while loan commitment is monthly. It boils down to the fact whether I need the power and since I'm not the speeding type, I figure that I don't need the turbo and 2.0 should be sufficient since it has the space and comfort that I'm looking for. My hesitation is only on the 4 gears and lack of ESP on the 2.0. Got any advice from sifu here?

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The turbo model is not all about speed only. Leather seats make it much more plush. I've said about the precise streering,which is very important to me. There are many subtle differences. More importantly the turbo model is packed with safety features. You said you are not the speeding type,which means you are cautious and prefer safety.
When you factories savings on road tax and savings from fuel,your monthly payment may be the same, or will differ very little. Don't forget the turbo model comes with 6 speed. Everymile you travel out station will cost less. Now surely that puts a smile on your face!

Hehehe........I guess you have set your mind on the NA, in which case,go ahead you'll love the car. Good luck bro!

I give you a very simple scenario and you tell me. You are crusing 110kmh on the highway on your 408. Would you use less fuel on 4th gear or 6th gear.

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I'm not sure.
Some apparently say there's no difference!

Maybe.......what goes around comes around!

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Added on June 1, 2012, 9:05 amDilivery in 3 weeks. Interest at 2.44% Maybank,loan already approved,did not really shop around but understand all banks are about the same. Tried for www, prices are mad! If anything my delay will be in trying to secure a nice number.


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If you are asking about 408 spare parts, it will all from NASA at the moment. It should be reasonable as they will be made in China. Then again as only NASA is supplier,I don't know the pricing. Anyway the car carries 5 year warranty. By this time there will be sufficient volume for independent spare parts shops to appear. Then for sure price of parts will be reasonable. This car is being priced very affordable. Will not be surprised if it sells well.

True it's just a battery,would cost 35% cheaper at least outside.

Congrats, what color you going for? Yeah don't worry too much about the ESP. It's a good safety feature to have, if you don't, it's not the end of the world. I'm sure you'll enjoy the car. I can't wait for my turbo charged bab!

To your question if Peugeot parts made in China will be reliable. The answer is yes ,if it is  manufactured under the control of Peugeot,which it is. 
Many well established brands have their products made in China. Don't go too far,iPad is made in China. Is it unreliable cos made in China. If any thing demand outstrips supply. Parts are made under the same quality control as in the parent company. That is not to say everything made in China is good. There will always be imitation.
Will Independent spare parts shops come up,I don't see why not. Look at BMW,  there are so many spare parts and workshops in the last few years. As a result parts are reasonable. Peugeot is really investing good money to establish itself here in ASEAN. 36 new service centres are to opened nation wide. With this Peugeot is going to establish itself as a strong brand in Malaysia. 
When there's money to be made,business with thrive!

Glove compartments are not meant for large things. It's really meant for small items like house keys & stuff. Volume control is on a lever behind the steering wheel. This does not spoil the sporty look of the steering wheel.

I'm very keen on the GPS. Infact was very disapointed the Premium did not come with it. Peugeot could have easily done this and factor the cost. Understand it will cost $3k. It is not an option but an after market choice. So am concerned if it will affect warranty and what mods are needed to the electrical system to fit the unit. Will go for it after a year if it will not void warranty and only if it is a plug and play system. French electric systems are quirky,don't want to mess with them!

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Yes don't fit stuff at random. Check with HQ on warranty contracts first. It will be a shame to loose 5 year warranty. Don't forget to let's us know.

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Added on June 4, 2012, 5:52 pmI did not realise the glove cmpt was that small. Looks like I too have to get a smaller torch......hehehe!

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Added on June 4, 2012, 6:02 pmI'd say use a portable GPS. After a while I'm quite sure GPS and some other goodie will come as an upgrade. Then your warranty will not void. NASA milks this cash cow.Why do you think the price is very reasonable,more money on the way! Exactly how it happened on the 407!

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My 2nd choice is the K5. The is a D segment car and does cost a bit more. Don't look down on the Kimchi brand, they have walked over the Japs and are closing the Conti gap. I was very impressed!
My only hesitation was the loud engine roar upon hard acceleration, infact this was rather uncomfortable. The 408t is silky smooth which convenced me to sign on the dotted line!

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Added on June 4, 2012, 6:37 pmRumour has it the blue and gold may be discontinued due to low demand. Better get your order in, just in case the grey faces the same fate!

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Don't understand what you mean by 308t being more comfortable. 408 is a much larger car with much larger cabin and boot! However if you are set on the 308t,better get it now. I understand this model will be discontinued.

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Added on June 4, 2012, 7:53 pm

Really? nasim salesman telling me that facelift version of 308 will be launching soon

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Not sure you can call it a face lift. It's a 308 sedan and a completely different face. Must admit it looks more sleek than the 408. The present 308t is on it's way out.you may only be able to get existing stock, no new production. I'll be seeing my agent next week for signing of loan docs,will ask him about the 308t.

NA uses hydraulics to steer the wheels. This eliminates the heaviness,however tends to loose feel,ie the steering is light.
The turbo model uses electro-hydraulic system. The muscle to move the heavy wheel is hydraulics. The command and feedback signals are electronically transmitted. The feedback can be tuned to provide an accurate feel. As such the steering feel is much more precise as to exactly what the car is doing.

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Added on June 4, 2012, 8:49 pmIt's going to be very interesting to see how Naza slots this model with price and engine choice. It is of smaller cabin size than the 408.

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