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post Dec 28 2005, 01:36 PM, updated 18y ago

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I am not sure wherter I have put this at the right place biggrin.gif but nevermind biggrin.gif lets have a start for Electronic Talks! biggrin.gif wohohoh Please feel free to share your designs or findings here .... thumbup.gif


Electronics-DIY-Designs:
http://www.elecdesign.com/index.cfm?AD=1&
http://www.electronic-circuits-diagrams.co...its_index.shtml
http://www.electronicsinfoline.com/

Electronics-Suppliers(online only):
http://www.elexp.com/
http://www.farnellinone.com/
http://www.rsmalaysia.com/cgi-bin/bv/home/...sp?cacheID=myie
http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/
http://www.omron-ap.com.my/
http://www.national.com/
http://www.atmel.com/

Electronics-Forums:
http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/
http://www.dutchforce.com/~eforum/index.php
http://www.electronicspoint.com/
http://www.eng-tips.com/

Electronics-Tutorials:
http://www.iguanalabs.com/maintut.htm
http://www.opamp-electronics.com/tutorials/index.htm
http://my.integritynet.com.au/purdic/
http://www.electronics-tutorials.com/
http://www.discovercircuits.com/list.htm

Electronics-ROBOTICS:
http://www.eng-tips.com/
http://robotics-design.com/homeselect.htm
http://www.galileo.org/robotics/design.html
http://www.roboticsonline.com/
http://endtas.com/robot/
http://www.astromech.net

Electronics-MicroControllers
http://www.microchip.com

Electronics Simulation Tools
http://www.linear.com/designtools/softwareRegistration.jsp

(some of the designs and articles are copyrighted. Any re-usage should inform the owner before any other action is done. Please respect the originality) thumbup.gif

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whoa..... no one comes in T_T
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post Dec 28 2005, 10:51 PM

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To most of us, electronics means work lol, and not all our designs are good lol
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lol not necessary need to be good mar biggrin.gif as long as it bring some levels of interests ...heheh...^^ something like remote control doorbell will satisfy me lol
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O_O coolness!! too bad I dunno where to get the electronic stuff like Gadget House, etc lolx
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post Dec 29 2005, 05:16 PM

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wow...the link u give is very interesting...may use some of idea for final project..haha
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Microchip
http://www.microchip.com : Can get free IC samples at http://sample.microchip.com/ - microcontrollers can be fun too. Need sufficient free time though.

For beginning, one might directly use designs available. The next step, you will find yourself only taking the concept and atempting to use different parts or trying to simplify sections... haha.. many things to discover in electronics biggrin.gif
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laugh.gif wohoohoh....becareful about the copyright dude wink.gif make sure no one discover it lol


QUOTE(knight @ Dec 29 2005, 05:16 PM)
wow...the link u give is very interesting...may use some of idea for final project..haha
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@faust yea biggrin.gif as long as the interest is there....other things can be easy wink.gif
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great idea.. i think the aquarium board also started by you rite?

anyway nice addition.. thinking about starting into DIY electronics myself..
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@amy test Thanks dude biggrin.gif yea i am in the aqua. thread too biggrin.gif

yeap hope tht more and more ppl will get into DIY work...no matter how big or how small is it smile.gif It is really fun ....
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the last electronic device i designed was a nuclear detonator lol.....hmmm....or was it a crappy power filtration and stabilization circuit.
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QUOTE(chowsc @ Dec 29 2005, 07:34 PM)
laugh.gif wohoohoh....becareful about the copyright dude wink.gif make sure no one discover it lol
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erm...wan ask is the site urs??

juz wan try use some idea la...i think sure can lo....wink.gif
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Anyone know whether Malaysia got PCB manufacturer that accept really low amount (perhaps < 5) order ?
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sweat.gif errrr....may i ask what ur job ar? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(empire23 @ Dec 30 2005, 03:08 PM)
the last electronic device i designed was a nuclear detonator lol.....hmmm....or was it a crappy power filtration and stabilization circuit.
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wahh i m not that geng ...man biggrin.gif

not my site ^^ just some of my favourite in my collection...u may use them at any means...but just haveto show ur respect to them biggrin.gif heheh

QUOTE(knight @ Dec 30 2005, 05:48 PM)
erm...wan ask is the site urs??

juz wan try use some idea la...i think sure can lo....wink.gif
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biggrin.gif u can get from RS malaysia smile.gif but the price would be much higher for non-bulk purchase smile.gif call them .... whistling.gif

QUOTE(yingfan @ Dec 30 2005, 06:07 PM)
Anyone know whether Malaysia got PCB manufacturer that accept really low amount (perhaps < 5) order ?
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QUOTE(chowsc @ Dec 30 2005, 07:13 PM)
biggrin.gif u can get from RS malaysia smile.gif but the price would be much higher for non-bulk purchase smile.gif call them .... whistling.gif
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Errrr ... RS only sells readily-printed PCB right?
What I want is to have a factory to produce some PCBs base on the circuits I provide.
Hate to use those veroboards sometimes. Damn ugly tongue.gif
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post Jan 1 2006, 04:18 AM

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hey..didnt realize this thread is open..hehe..welcome electronics hobbyist..yeah..


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yeahhh!! dude! biggrin.gif lets discuss more ....hermmm anyone has suggestions what to discuss to bring up the interest? biggrin.gif the field is just too wide !! biggrin.gif
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The only design i made is twin led connect to battery. but that one also the led burn out because i put 9V battery. tongue.gif
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Hmm.. wonder how many of you have personal computers with (printer) parallel port and (RS-232) serial port. The future will be without those while I am still relying on parallel port a lot. Programming microcontrollers and flashing Nokia 3310 firmware.

I'm now looking at Microchip's microcontroller with USB support. Thinking of playing with USB. Can anyone tell where to get USB connector? Perhaps I start by making a smart card reader that plugs into USB. Yeah, I'm also looking for smart card connector.
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As what i know, many still now using parellel port coz using usb port must know how to create the driver..serial wor~~
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here got some interesting things to share...spotted a robot site...quite interesting....check it out...

http://www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4573/1/
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laugh.gif lol aiyak....u put there for long huh? biggrin.gif and whats the purpose to put led there? smile.gif torch light ? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(XERNITY @ Jan 1 2006, 04:55 PM)
The only design i made is twin led connect to battery. but that one also the led burn out because i put 9V battery. tongue.gif
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laugh.gif aiks..usb smart card reader....pretty interesting smile.gif its easy to get a smart card reader here..but usb type...havent seen any yet smile.gif laugh.gif

QUOTE(xenon @ Jan 1 2006, 10:14 PM)
Hmm.. wonder how many of you have personal computers with (printer) parallel port and (RS-232) serial port. The future will be without those while I am still relying on parallel port a lot. Programming microcontrollers and flashing Nokia 3310 firmware.

I'm now looking at Microchip's microcontroller with USB support. Thinking of playing with USB. Can anyone tell where to get USB connector? Perhaps I start by making a smart card reader that plugs into USB. Yeah, I'm also looking for smart card connector.
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Easy to get smart card reader? Can talk about it in more details? I want to know how much do I need to pay to get one. Not USB then what? Serial port, not available to some computers.
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hi , ppl out there...I am trying to find an auto gate system to add on with my remote control. i try to find an auto gate system which can apply with this remote but couldn't find any..THis is my remote-control circuit website...Hope ppl out there can help me.

http://www.redcircuits.com/Page55.htm
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QUOTE(xenon @ Jan 3 2006, 09:18 PM)
Easy to get smart card reader? Can talk about it in more details? I want to know how much do I need to pay to get one. Not USB then what? Serial port, not available to some computers.
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http://www.smartcardfocus.com/shop/ilp/se~...6/p/index.shtml (USB or build-in)

http://www.didya.com/

http://www.smartcardfocus.com/shop/ilp/se~...6/p/index.shtml (serial)

http://www.smartcardfocus.com/shop/ilp/se~...6/p/index.shtml (cards only)

^^you can find some other brands like this in Jln Pasar smile.gif but they are all made in China... choose wisely as they don't provide warranty sometimes smile.gif normally around RM80-150, but depends on brand smile.gif Some are over RM200 from what i saw last time

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QUOTE(ldhong @ Jan 4 2006, 12:53 AM)
hi , ppl out there...I am trying to find an auto gate system to add on with my remote control. i try to find an auto gate system which can apply with this remote but couldn't find any..THis is my remote-control circuit website...Hope ppl out there can help me.

http://www.redcircuits.com/Page55.htm
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u mean u want an actual circuit for an auto gate that we use at home? sweat.gif
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MORE circuit MORE robots please biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(xenon @ Jan 1 2006, 10:14 PM)
Hmm.. wonder how many of you have personal computers with (printer) parallel port and (RS-232) serial port. The future will be without those while I am still relying on parallel port a lot. Programming microcontrollers and flashing Nokia 3310 firmware.

I'm now looking at Microchip's microcontroller with USB support. Thinking of playing with USB. Can anyone tell where to get USB connector? Perhaps I start by making a smart card reader that plugs into USB. Yeah, I'm also looking for smart card connector.
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Last time i built a remote control car controlled using computer through parallel port interfacing. I even interface it using normal gaming Steering, wheel and pedal too tongue.gif . I used VB to build its software. It was one of my college assignments.

As for USB interfacing, u can try acquire USB development kit. One of my friends built USB device application using 'Cypress USB development kit'. I don't know much about Microchip USB development kit, i only know how to use PIC 16F84 only laugh.gif . Can someone highlight it here thumbup.gif


P/s: Right now i am in middle of developing a small autonomous robot as my part time hobby. Is there any robot freaks here ? smile.gif
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Resource for free components sample (read: FREE!!)
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laugh.gif huhhuhu samples huh biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Jan 5 2006, 03:17 PM)
Last time i built a remote control car controlled using computer  through parallel port interfacing. I even interface it using normal gaming  Steering, wheel and pedal too tongue.gif . I used VB to build its software. It was one of my college assignments. 

As for USB interfacing, u can try acquire USB development kit. One of my friends built USB device application using 'Cypress USB development kit'. I don't know much about Microchip USB development kit, i only know how to use PIC 16F84 only laugh.gif . Can someone highlight it here  thumbup.gif
P/s: Right now i am in middle of developing a small autonomous robot as my part time hobby. Is there any robot freaks here ?  smile.gif
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laugh.gif cool man............your sharing whistling.gif would be appreciated
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huhuhu samples...

Microchip - deliver using FedEx. good, but don't misuse it.
Analog Devices - not for Malaysia. But if you have an address in USA...
Maxim/Dallas Semiconductor - using normal mail. But I didn't receive my order a month ago.
National Semiconductor - no response. and I didn't bother to email them.
Fairchild Semiconductor - no response
Texas Instruments - using a courier service, comes in a box. Even give you expensive digital signal processors.
Cirrus Logic - didn't try
Linear Technologies - didn't try
Freescale (previously Motorola) -didn't try
ON Semiconductor - no response
Intel - I actually got samples of flash memory chips. But that is only available at that time.


Vishay - call my handphone and ask for purpose. No samples for non-commercial projects. (no money return no talk)

RTI Electronics - I got a few thermistors
Coilcraft - E-mailed to ask about student policy. Seems complicated - leceh
Cooper Electronic Technologies - only ordered printed catalog. and I received it.
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i stumble upon this just now, might intrest some of you
www.astromech.net
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QUOTE(HuonHengChai @ Jan 5 2006, 09:58 PM)
i stumble upon this just now, might intrest some of you
www.astromech.net
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omg! ^^ can build own R2 huh!
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Segway DIY http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html
Anybody up for the job?
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sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif oowww not this again....my uni. is fond to this stuff...~_~ saw a lect. riding on it in front of Siti Hasmah few months back....

QUOTE(fyseng @ Jan 6 2006, 03:38 PM)
Segway DIY http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html
Anybody up for the job?
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Jan 6 2006, 03:38 PM)
Segway DIY http://www.tlb.org/scooter.html
Anybody up for the job?
I read about this some time last year. The total cost is killing, especially here in Malaysia. Still cheaper than a true 'ginger' though.
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hehehe nobody here is going to build that scooter like machine i think...too pricey and no true value ^^ biggrin.gif
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bump bump more robots more electronics more led please! biggrin.gif
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bump bump bump! biggrin.gif
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woohoooo elec....tronic ! biggrin.gif
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Can bump one meh?

How much is the cheapest digital multimeter sold at Jalan Pasar shops? I bought the DT-830D in Kuantan for RM15 last time. Now see Carrefour sells it for RM60. Now thinking of buying a cheap digital multimeter because my probe wires are broken. And sometimes I want to measure voltage and current at the same time.

My DT-830D is really accurate for the 20 volt range. I tested it in the lab of my university. All digits correct.
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DT-830A RM15.00@darson. Voltage & current measurement is quite accurate but resistance has tolerance of 4-5 ohm.
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laugh.gif this is non-post count thread mar biggrin.gif should be ok to bump! biggrin.gif just wanna keep it alive lol


cheapest? If you dont mind to get those yellow type smile.gif imitation...its around 15-30 dude smile.gif

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Can bump one meh?

How much is the cheapest digital multimeter sold at Jalan Pasar shops? I bought the DT-830D in Kuantan for RM15 last time. Now see Carrefour sells it for RM60. Now thinking of buying a cheap digital multimeter because my probe wires are broken. And sometimes I want to measure voltage and current at the same time.

My DT-830D is really accurate for the 20 volt range. I tested it in the lab of my university. All digits correct.
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QUOTE(xenon @ Jan 16 2006, 07:16 AM)
Can bump one meh?

How much is the cheapest digital multimeter sold at Jalan Pasar shops? I bought the DT-830D in Kuantan for RM15 last time. Now see Carrefour sells it for RM60. Now thinking of buying a cheap digital multimeter because my probe wires are broken. And sometimes I want to measure voltage and current at the same time.

My DT-830D is really accurate for the 20 volt range. I tested it in the lab of my university. All digits correct.
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That reminds me, i just got me a 179
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Dead accurate, perfect for my work since my last multimeter exploded violently (I wasn't even mine tongue.gif), plus besides being great for my usual work. It just owns when it comes to comp geekdom, comes with a thermocouple, easy grip probes and a non slip case. Knowing my carelessness, i think the investment was well worth it (Got it for 5 days and blew up the 1000V fuse tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 16 2006, 05:17 PM)
Dead accurate, perfect for my work since my last multimeter exploded violently (I wasn't even mine tongue.gif), plus besides being great for my usual work. It just owns when it comes to comp geekdom, comes with a thermocouple, easy grip probes and a non slip case. Knowing my carelessness, i think the investment was well worth it (Got it for 5 days and blew up the 1000V fuse tongue.gif)
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thumbup.gif nice item u got there smile.gif will go to jln pasar next week to search for this model and see what it is priced at ^^ laugh.gif and going to get some new hobby kits too !
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thumbup.gif  nice item u got there smile.gif will go to jln pasar next week to search for this model and see what it is priced at ^^  laugh.gif and going to get some new hobby kits too !
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Truly worth it if you're hardcore. Anyways, got a book on electronics by hambley. Anyways, anybody here want to build amps, i'm interested in the SOHA and Gainclone amps and would appreciate it if a few of us would post on it's design and improvement.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 16 2006, 05:17 PM)
That reminds me, i just got me a 179
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Dead accurate, perfect for my work since my last multimeter exploded violently (I wasn't even mine tongue.gif), plus besides being great for my usual work. It just owns when it comes to comp geekdom, comes with a thermocouple, easy grip probes and a non slip case. Knowing my carelessness, i think the investment was well worth it (Got it for 5 days and blew up the 1000V fuse tongue.gif)
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That's one sweet Fluke thumbup.gif
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laugh.gif do u have any ebook for that ? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 20 2006, 10:10 PM)
Truly worth it if you're hardcore. Anyways, got a book on electronics by hambley. Anyways, anybody here want to build amps, i'm interested in the SOHA and Gainclone amps and would appreciate it if a few of us would post on it's design and improvement.
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If you need advice on semiconductors I wouldn't mind providing them since I come from a semiconductor backgroud tongue.gif

Anything from the standard group IV semiconductor like silicon to III-V technology, just fire away smile.gif
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what chip to use for handling large amp motors? just asking.. lazy to googling around.. hehe
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anyone using microchip's PIC??
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I got my smart card reader working. Now playing with MyKad. Reverse-engineering, hehe.

Success: reading out the JPEG photo. It's slightly less than 4000 bytes, 150x200 pixels.

Cracking head on the thumbprint format. Found standards specifying 6 bytes per minutia. But what I found on my card looks like 4 bytes per minutia. The data that I'm looking at matches the description "500 bytes per print". The header at the beginning contains the string "R1L1".
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OMG. I love this thread, since I am currently in my first year of E&E engineering.

currently got project (actually a year two project), where we have to create a circuit. my group will do the mosquito repeller (using ultrasonic). but we need to modify the circuit (in order to get good marks). still thinking about how to modify it. actully, none of my group members are good in modifying/designing circuit. neither do i. i bought breadboard etc to do some self-experimentation at home in future ( after i settle all the projects ) sweat.gif

btw, did you guys know where can i get moon shaped LED and other wacky-wakcky shapes LED? been hunting for them a few weeks already. sweat.gif
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anyone here know about tomy brand product ?? they are going to sell new type of control helicopter rite ? biggrin.gif oni cost RM 80.... use infrared one... charge few min can fly 80 second haha its made by paper
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what chip to use for handling large amp motors? just asking.. lazy to googling around.. hehe
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u mean driver? what motor u want to drive? got stepper, dc and ac. Mayb u can use Darlington pair BJT to increase the current.

QUOTE(luvfun @ Jan 26 2006, 11:03 PM)
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QUOTE(den @ Feb 9 2006, 08:50 AM)
OMG. I love this thread, since I am currently in my first year of E&E engineering.

currently got project (actually a year two project), where we have to create a circuit. my group will do the mosquito repeller (using ultrasonic). but we need to modify the circuit (in order to get good marks). still thinking about how to modify it. actully, none of my group members are good in modifying/designing circuit. neither do i. i bought breadboard etc to do some self-experimentation at home in future ( after i settle all the projects ) sweat.gif

btw, did you guys know where can i get moon shaped LED and other wacky-wakcky shapes LED? been hunting for them a few weeks already. sweat.gif
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what kind of modifications u need? nth much can do with the mosquito repeller. Unless u add those features like timers to turn off and on.
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this thread should be pinned!!!
highly recommended!!
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Erm..

Wanna ask, have anyone here like to invent sumthing new, like wut Im doing(refer to the pict)

Well, anything that involve a little wires, chip, rc....anything,

If u do, plzz share ur exp here


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err wats tht dude biggrin.gif its like a tank!:D

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Erm..

Wanna ask, have anyone here like to invent sumthing new, like wut Im doing(refer to the pict)

Well, anything that involve a little wires, chip, rc....anything,

If u do, plzz share ur exp here
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WOW! This thread is like soo cool! I didn't know there were electronic and roboticts enthusiasts in Malaysia.

I am actually interested in robotics and have quite a few robotics books, but i've never actually built a robot before. The main reason being the enourmous amount of money it costs.

By the way, I'm from Sarawak! Not all of us live in trees ( well the ones that do have elevators, LOL)
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Hi guys.Im currently intrested in learning the PIC.Anyone here has a idea what kind of PIC programmer that available that I can easily get.I got one from Jalan Pasar but it is a hobby kit thingy and you have to build it urself, I build it but not working maybe I spoiled it during soldering sad.gif .Also I tried searching the net but not sure which one to buy.Anyway thnx for the time smile.gif

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For PIC programmer, last time I used WinPic http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html
I suggest you to make a second attempt to build yourself.
The basic blocks you need are

1) 5V power supply (built from an AC-DC adapter, connector for DC power jack, 7805 regulator + electrolytic capacitors)

2) Parallel port connector + 4 to 6 wires of 1 meter each

3) Protoboard and the PIC chip

4) Supporting circuit. I can design a simple one for you, after you tell which PIC chip you want to program. Generally there are two solutions. One is using a logic chip that can tri-state eg. 74HC244. The other is using a few NPN transistors and a few resistors. Then recently I tried a third solution, throw away all the supporting circuit stuff and connect directly to the parallel port, utilising the bidirectional data capability. We cannot use WinPic in the third solution but I wrote my own program. In the third solution, the only components needed are three 220pF capacitors.

Since most of the PICs have two programming modes, first one requires 13V but the second mode doesn't require, we don't need to provide 13V. The supporting circuit is really simple. All you need to do now is get the items 1) 2) 3) above ready, then state the part number of your PIC chip. And whether you choose solution one: logic chip; or two: npn transistors, eg C945, C9013, BC547, 2N3904
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Cool...Im thinking of programming the PIC16F84A and I'll choose the NPN transistor solution cause I have few of the 2N3906 around.But before that I got a few dumb question

1) The 5V power supply can I just hook up 4 X 1.5 AA bateries?
2)Protoboard?Project board or the PCB?

Thnx for the trouble smile.gif .

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2N3906 is PNP.

5 volt. Stressing the chip with 6 volt is not good. The datasheet recommends the maximum operating suppy voltage to be 5.5V. Lowest is 4.0V. Three batteries maybe? If you use NiMH batteries, the voltage per cell is about 1.25-1.45. For alkaline, 1.10V for low battery condition to 1.60V fresh from package. As you can see one cell is not 1.5V fixed, using a voltage regulator is almost a must.

When using LM7805 regulator, you need at least 7V input to the regulator to get 5V output.

Breadboard (also called protoboard) - project board.

I'm a bit busy for this few weeks. So I don't have time to test an NPN transistor solution. Probably have to wait for a week or so.
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i recently build a PIC programmer for my PIC16F following the instruction on this website

myke's elcheapo

i havent try the programmer i build yet. anybody tried this circuit before??

it's relatively cheap and easy to built.
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I built a PIC progammer last time but fail..lol..

but it is more simple to build an Atmel AT89S8252 progammer.

For 5V, u can buy those normal adaptor that output 9V or 12V, then cut out their wire and hook to 7805 regulator.
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if ya don't mind me asking, what does a PIC programmer do and what is it used for?

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err wats tht dude biggrin.gif its like a tank!:D
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QUOTE(NOS4R2 @ Feb 19 2006, 07:42 PM)
if ya don't mind me asking, what does a PIC programmer do and what is it used for?
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Yeah, ca anyone tell us more bout it? I mean, in a simple explanation.

And, which part of Selangor/Kl that I can find a lot of electronic thingy?

I mean, like transistor, capasitor, NE55 chip, erm...solar panel, gear box..


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Truly worth it if you're hardcore. Anyways, got a book on electronics by hambley. Anyways, anybody here want to build amps, i'm interested in the SOHA and Gainclone amps and would appreciate it if a few of us would post on it's design and improvement.
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i do believe that the DIY Amp thread in Audiophiles is where you should be asking these types of questions. i'll try to answer all questions that you have regarding DIY amps since i've built a few of DIY amps before this. the SOHA is the most recent ones (built a few of these) :
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the SOHA build thread here.
the Gainclone resources here and here.
hope to see you more in the DIY Amp thread if you're really interested in these types of DIY.
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I now searching 2 robot for my referance, line follower robot and wall detector robot, I want to buy from forumer here that got these 2 robot. Offer me your best price. The robot is mainly powered by PIC16F84.

I want:

1. complete line follower robot project + overlall PIC discription language, include the definition of the language process. + complete circuit diagram.

2. Wall follower robot, and complete set of language as above + circuit diagram.
This robot is complete project for ultrasound sensor or similiar, such that will avoid a wall if it near to it, so that it will follow the wall nicely without hit it.

PM me your best price. I take all COD at Lowyat Plaza.

Thank you everyone smile.gif

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OMG. I love this thread, since I am currently in my first year of E&E engineering.

currently got project (actually a year two project), where we have to create a circuit. my group will do the mosquito repeller (using ultrasonic). but we need to modify the circuit (in order to get good marks). still thinking about how to modify it. actully, none of my group members are good in modifying/designing circuit. neither do i. i bought breadboard etc to do some self-experimentation at home in future ( after i settle all the projects ) sweat.gif

btw, did you guys know where can i get moon shaped LED and other wacky-wakcky shapes LED? been hunting for them a few weeks already. sweat.gif
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Generally you can modify the circuit with

- A timer.
- Power saving.
- Solar Cells with a comparator and battery.
- Mabye a boost function laugh.gif for those nyamuk Gajah.

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Erm, anyone there willing to tell me more bout PIC? and, where can I find electronic stuff here in kL or Selangor?
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if ya don't mind me asking, what does a PIC programmer do and what is it used for?
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Erm, anyone there willing to tell me more bout PIC?  and, where can I find electronic stuff here in kL or Selangor?
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PIC programmer is a thing to progamme the firmware u write into PIC microcontroller by Microchip company.

Microcontroller is an IC that can be used to control external hardware.

Go to Pasar Road to find electronics components or u can visit Farnell or RSMalaysia to purchase.
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QUOTE(cafuheva @ Feb 20 2006, 12:32 AM)
I now searching 2 robot for my referance, line follower robot and wall detector robot, I want to buy from forumer here that got these 2 robot. Offer me your best price. The robot is mainly powered by PIC16F84.

I want:

1. complete line follower robot project + overlall PIC discription language, include the definition of the language process. + complete circuit diagram.

2. Wall follower robot, and complete set of language as above + circuit diagram.
This robot is complete project for ultrasound sensor or similiar, such that will avoid a wall if it near to it, so that it will follow the wall nicely without hit it.

PM me your best price. I take all COD at Lowyat Plaza.

Thank you everyone smile.gif
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I guess this is ur FYP. Do it yourself lah, if not u will regret later.

Give u some ideas.

1) The robot mechanical build no need to be so complicated. A remote control car look alike will do.

2) for line follower robot, use infrared sensor. Put it below the robot. For wall detective robot, well, u can use ultrasonic sensor.

For the circuits of those sensors, i think u can find it by googling it. Use ADC to get the sensor input then control the movement of your motor. What so hard about it?

Just put some effort to work out the flowchart of the system then ask some1 to teach u to write the firmware lah.
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Oekh. thanks for the info. Currently, Im trying to make a robot, erm, just a simple one. Like a tank with an arm on it. But, my prob is, where can I get simple mechanicle componet, such as motor to move the arm. Tamiya motor cannot a, coz it spin too fast. I want to find electrical motor with a gear on it, so the output will be strong and steady..heh~

Any suggestion?
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Ok,cool that give me time to gathered the needed componnents and stuff.Thnx Xenon.
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juz solved the PIC programmer circuit problem

thxs to xenon for all the advices!!!

for those who wants to build their own PIC programmer, refer to page 4 for the link

and those who have questions, feel free to PM me biggrin.gif
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Erm, mecha, can u post ur PIC pic? want to find one lo...
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yo mezerwi,

if you want to see how a PIC microcontroller looks like, i think you can goto microchip.com

they give out free samples too
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Hehe got a noob question here.I wanted a steady 5V DC supply...so I dicided to use a LM7805 regultor.The problem is that the 7805 get to hot so quickly and the other thing I tried using the 9V batteries when I connected it to the 7805 input I get only around 2.3V at the output and the 9V batereis got around 8.41V.

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make sure ur amperage is less than the lm rating. in the datasheet, it will say that at this amperage, need heatsink of certain watt.

the output u get might be from a wrong configuration? or the heat..u haf to try them out.
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Wah, after surfing those website, I still cant be on the stream meh.

Still need advice here, well, Im really new to this kind stuff.

Perhaps there will be a person who can instruct me all the way..geez..

Erm, If I wanna grab a piece of PIC, how much would it be?

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laugh.gif its easier to set ur budget first wink.gif then only find which of those that are in your range perhaps ? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(mezerwi @ Feb 24 2006, 11:05 PM)
Wah, after surfing those website, I still cant be on the stream meh.

Still need advice here, well, Im really new to this kind stuff.

Perhaps there will be a person who can instruct me all the way..geez..

Erm, If I wanna grab a piece of PIC, how much would it be?
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Cool thnx...I'll check them out smile.gif
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QUOTE(Wavelength @ Feb 24 2006, 04:54 AM)
Hehe got a noob question here.I wanted a steady 5V DC supply...so I dicided to use a LM7805 regultor.The problem is that the 7805 get to hot so quickly and the other thing I tried using the 9V batteries when I connected it to the 7805 input I get only around 2.3V at the output and the 9V batereis got around 8.41V.
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maybe your circuit draw too much current and make the voltage hot and the regulator become hot. how much current ur circuit draw?

QUOTE(mezerwi @ Feb 24 2006, 11:05 PM)
Wah, after surfing those website, I still cant be on the stream meh.

Still need advice here, well, Im really new to this kind stuff.

Perhaps there will be a person who can instruct me all the way..geez..

Erm, If I wanna grab a piece of PIC, how much would it be?
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i think u can get free sample from microchip
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Free sample only for those who got their own email, (exmpl: mail@mezerwi..)


Erm, bout my budget, max is RM 250 la..
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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Feb 25 2006, 04:08 AM)
maybe your circuit draw too much current and make the voltage hot and the regulator become hot. how much current ur circuit draw?
i think u can get free sample from microchip
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Hmm don't think my circuit draw to much current . I just wanna test that 7805 regulator...so I connected it to a 7 segement display.

Anyway have anyone tried to purchase any stuff online through the link which listed the online suppliers on the 1st post ?If have, how was the service
(delivery time and price)
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Where can i find a mini hand driller in kuala lumpur?? And what is the price range ? i need it to drill holes on the pcb board......
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any1 here know where can i get temperature sensor n pressure sensor? went to jalan pasar but cant find it...
i ned it for my project cansat..
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in PJ go to Farnell warehouse...

use ur student ID to get 5% discount... (no need to pre register)
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in PJ go to Farnell warehouse...

use ur student ID to get 5% discount... (no need to pre register)
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where is farnell? pj near where?
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Farnel warehouse?It looks like an office to me.I went there and they said I need to order first, than I can collect the stuff 4 to 5 working days latter and they said they don't keep any stuff there so that's why they need to order first.

Anyway here is the link for the location.
http://my.farnell.com/images/en_MY/my_site...YCCFE4AVAHAIIV3

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QUOTE(Wavelength @ Feb 28 2006, 03:15 AM)
Hmm don't think my circuit draw to much current . I just wanna test that 7805 regulator...so I connected it  to a 7 segement display.


Anyway have anyone tried to purchase any stuff online through the link which listed the online suppliers on the 1st post ?If have, how was the service
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Try Farnell and RS. They are quite reliable.

Did you connect all the wires properly.. 7 segment display will roughly use only about 0.02 till 0.1 amp provided you connected correctly. Depends on the circuit also. If bigger circuit will use more amp. But usually very little amp only. You can use DC chopper circuits / analog power supply. Analog power supply is mostly using 7805,7809,7812 and 7824. For my final year thesis, I designed DC chopper circuits for use in motor / etc. Quite fun.. Very easy provided you have good books. Buy India books. They provide you with all the revelent calculations so that you don't have to crack your head during the calculation parts.


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Farnell is near jalan 222.... food court/proton edar/bsa wheels road...

most of the product ARE READY STOCK.... but you refer to the website first whether they have it in stock...

total price are all listed, and if your item is ready stock, just go their office (ground floor)/warehouse (2nd floor), and place order there... take about 15 mins to get things ready...

I like their service (although abit xpensive) bcoz you can find datasheet to the product as well they carry most product that you can't find in jalan pasar...


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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Mar 1 2006, 06:54 PM)
Farnell is near jalan 222.... food court/proton edar/bsa wheels road...

most of the product ARE READY STOCK.... but you refer to the website first whether they have it in stock...

total price are all listed, and if your item is ready stock, just go their office (ground floor)/warehouse (2nd floor), and place order there... take about 15 mins to get things ready...

I like their service (although abit xpensive) bcoz you can find datasheet to the product as well they carry most product that you can't find in jalan pasar...
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You mean if stated in their web site it is in stock, means they have them already in their warehouse and I don't need to wait? Why that sales girl didnt even check if my stuff was available and just say that I need to wait 4 to 5 working days to collect any suff if I wanted to buy.Eventhough my stuff was available when I checked through their web sites...Hmm maybe iI'll go check again today.
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QUOTE(kirlcheah @ Mar 1 2006, 04:49 AM)
Try Farnell and RS. They are quite reliable.

Did you connect all the wires properly.. 7 segment display will roughly use only about 0.02 till 0.1 amp provided you connected correctly. Depends on the circuit also. If bigger circuit will use more amp. But usually very little amp only. You can use DC chopper circuits / analog power supply. Analog power supply is mostly using 7805,7809,7812 and 7824. For my final year thesis, I designed DC chopper circuits for use in motor / etc. Quite fun.. Very easy provided you have good books. Buy India books. They provide you with all the revelent calculations so that you don't have to crack your head during the calculation parts.
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Hehe I think I connected the wires the wrong way..Now I manage to get the 5v by supplying 9v bat. Thnx guys smile.gif
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if it says in website that its in stock, 99% it will be there, coz the website are updated realtime with their database...

if the girl simply say wait 4 - 5 days without looking at the screen, then you've been DUPED...


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hi guys just find this post today, not many local forum talk about electronics (this is the first local forum for me)

currently i bought electronic component from jln pasar area, but sometimes component not available. especially the exotic component. so often go back home with empty hand and less petrol in car tank.

just wondering, any local company sell their electronic component online. I cant seems to find any, RS and Farnell only provide online catalogs but you to go to their warehouse to purchased their product.

any ideas,?

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QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 13 2006, 10:17 AM)
hi guys just find this post today, not many local forum talk about electronics (this is the first local forum for me)

currently i bought electronic component from jln pasar area, but sometimes component not available. especially the exotic component. so often go back home with empty hand and less petrol in car tank.

just wondering, any local company sell their electronic component online. I cant seems to find any, RS and Farnell only provide online catalogs but you to go to their warehouse to purchased their product.

any ideas,?
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smile.gif yea dude smile.gif wat kind of components are you looking for ? smile.gif post them here ....some forumers might be able to help wink.gif

QUOTE(lamir_loco @ Mar 13 2006, 10:17 AM)
hi guys just find this post today, not many local forum talk about electronics (this is the first local forum for me)

currently i bought electronic component from jln pasar area, but sometimes component not available. especially the exotic component. so often go back home with empty hand and less petrol in car tank.

just wondering, any local company sell their electronic component online. I cant seems to find any, RS and Farnell only provide online catalogs but you to go to their warehouse to purchased their product.

any ideas,?
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ok will do it soon,

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hi, browsed through a thread and finally got an idea where to get the components from.

but one thing is that i'm not familiar wif KL,
can someone provide more details on where is the so called Jalan Pasar?
or even better, the exact address...
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Apr 23 2006, 05:22 PM)
hi, browsed through a thread and finally got an idea where to get the components from.

but one thing is that i'm not familiar wif KL,
can someone provide more details on where is the so called Jalan Pasar?
or even better, the exact address...
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ermmmmm how to say ermmm.....
1) use google earth biggrin.gif
2) take star LRT, drop at PUDU station. Gets out from the station, go straight until you reach the main road(100 meters away from the station). Turn left and go straight again. You will be walking along the main road (passes a crossroad with traffic light) Do not make any left or right turn along the way, even at the crossroad. You will eventually gets to the place so called Jalan Pasar. You will know tht you are there when you see those electronics shops :)lot of em.


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any freelancers here ?
I have one small electronic project.
I want a counter to count how many times a switch is being used.
My apartment has an autogate system. gate can be opened by card acces. however, guard can open manually via a switch. so, I want to know how many times in a day the guard use the manual swicth to open the gate.

my apart is in ampang. can go to www.okidonline.com for location.

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Robotics hobbyist might be interested here......

ROBOCON Malaysia 2006 will be held at PWTC next weeked (6-7 May).
Competing teams include MMU, UTM (defending champion), Uniten, UKM and others.

Check it out.
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QUOTE(zumaidi @ Apr 26 2006, 12:16 PM)
any freelancers here ?
I have one small electronic project.
I want a counter to count how many times a switch is being used.
My apartment has an autogate system. gate can be opened by card acces. however, guard can open manually via a switch. so, I want to know how many times in a day the guard use the manual swicth to open the gate.

my apart is in ampang. can go to www.okidonline.com for location.

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QUOTE(Ethan @ Apr 27 2006, 09:50 PM)
Robotics hobbyist might be interested here......

ROBOCON Malaysia 2006 will be held at PWTC next weeked (6-7 May).
Competing teams include MMU, UTM (defending champion), Uniten, UKM and others.

Check it out.
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anyone know where i can get a cheap RF remote control switch? i need it to on off a fan.. wink.gif

jalan pasar as well? anyone bought it before..? cos im building a blimp..
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Hai, wan ask where can i get finger reconition device??I'm planning to do it for my FYP..is that a good idea?? Any other good Idea??
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Anyone wish to buy components from Digi-Key? I wish to tumpang so we can share the shipping charge...
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QUOTE(darren.wenshen @ May 5 2006, 10:45 PM)
anyone know where i can get a cheap RF remote control switch? i need it to on off a fan.. wink.gif

jalan pasar as well? anyone bought it before..? cos im building a blimp..
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Hai, wan ask where can i get finger reconition device??I'm planning to do it for my FYP..is that a good idea?? Any other good Idea??
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I think u can get it from jln pasar as well (fingerprint recgonition, brand: NEC)
its like the one u can see in the bank smile.gif

QUOTE(onemilimeter @ May 11 2006, 09:03 AM)
Anyone wish to buy components from Digi-Key? I wish to tumpang so we can share the shipping charge...
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wat do u hope to get dude...the items in digi-key is relatively expensive actually rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(chowsc @ May 12 2006, 10:00 AM)
yeap dude ...jln pasar will do smile.gif
I think u can get it from jln pasar as well (fingerprint recgonition, brand: NEC)
its like the one u can see in the bank smile.gif
wat do u hope to get dude...the items in digi-key is relatively expensive actually  rolleyes.gif
Yes... That's true... But I can't find in local market... but not sure Jalan Pasar got or not... I wish to get the following parts:

VNH2SP30 & VNH3SP30 frm ST Microelectronics

Any chance that you can find them in M'sia? Or, do you help customer to get parts from Digi-Key? Thanks.

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QUOTE(onemilimeter @ May 15 2006, 01:12 PM)
Yes... That's true... But I can't find in local market... but not sure Jalan Pasar got or not... I wish to get the following parts:

VNH2SP30 & VNH3SP30 frm ST Microelectronics

Any chance that you can find them in M'sia? Or, do you help customer to get parts from Digi-Key? Thanks.
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ermm i can help to look for it after my exam smile.gif that will be 2 weeks later ..from now....smile.gif but no gurantee tht i can get it ya smile.gif just try my luck ...just let me know if u still need it by thne
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Dudes...was wondering can u guys assist me on this.

I wanna do the glowing eyes on my Gundam sets. So was looking around for tiny LEDs. Anyone can help me modify ?
It shud be powered by a small batt of 2 V...i dunno electronics much. blush.gif

Was also wondering are there straight line lightings for LEDs ? Coz my NEMO is supposed to have a straight light in the visors.

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QUOTE(Balthasar @ May 15 2006, 06:33 PM)
Dudes...was wondering can u guys assist me on this.

I wanna do the glowing eyes on my Gundam sets. So was looking around for tiny LEDs. Anyone can help me modify ?
It shud be powered by a small batt of 2 V...i dunno electronics much.  blush.gif

Was also wondering are there straight line lightings for LEDs ? Coz my NEMO is supposed to have a straight light in the visors.

Thanks
You can try using SMD type of LEDs...

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QUOTE(chowsc @ May 15 2006, 06:08 PM)
ermm i can help to look for it after my exam smile.gif that will be 2 weeks later ..from now....smile.gif  but no gurantee tht i can get it ya smile.gif just try my luck ...just let me know if u still need it by thne
Sure I will still need it... Thanks in advance...

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Bad thing is that its must be small so tat i can house the system into the body. Was told that i need a resistor of about 10 ohm or i will blow the LED.

What i mean by straight is that when lighted up, u can see a straight line across the head...supposedly the eyes la...its hard to reproduce tat.
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oh man.. congrats for being the thread starter..
wonderfull idea man.. rclxms.gif

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hi guys....newbie here tongue.gif

dunno much bout electronics n been surfing for a while to search for answers..... smile.gif

but fail (< understand) n dunno who to ask.... so here is my Q's....

1) i would like to buy the electronic kit.....the "running light" ( i hope it resembles knight rider's LED )...........n would like it to run using 5v from PSU molex.......can it be done? FYI...the kit runs on 9v battery

2) is there a kit or a simple guide to make a remote contol switch? (like a remote to ON a TV)

hope u guys can help me......smile.gif

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oh man.. congrats for being the thread starter..
wonderfull idea man..  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Cyclone @ May 21 2006, 11:56 PM)
hi guys....newbie here tongue.gif

dunno much bout electronics n been surfing for a while to search for answers..... smile.gif

but fail (< understand) n dunno who to ask.... so here is my Q's....

1) i would like to buy the electronic kit.....the "running light" ( i hope it resembles knight rider's LED )...........n would like it to run using 5v from PSU molex.......can it be done? FYI...the kit runs on 9v battery

2) is there a kit or a simple guide to make a remote contol switch? (like a remote to ON a TV)

hope u guys can help me......smile.gif
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1)psu diagram -->http://pinouts.ru/Power/atxpower_pinout.shtml

use voltage regulator to change ur 5v output to your desired outp lt, like this guy -->http://ideas.4brad.com/node/387

2) http://www.electronic-circuits-diagrams.co.../testckt2.shtml
http://www.electronic-circuits-diagrams.com/testimages/2.gif
(the items are easy to get type smile.gif just tht u need to change the IR receiver of the item such as tv tongue.gif )

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hahahaha.....still dun understand tongue.gif

1) scare to regulate the PSU tongue.gif .............but sure can run a 9v kit (LED running light)?

.........n this kits, can we really "thrust" the quality?

bout the "running light" ....is it like the knight rider scanner? can we control the speed..........?

2)the remote switch is for me to switch on my pc.......so i think the IR receiver that u gave me is not suitable.....correct if im wrong smile.gif

but im gonna read it again....maybe coz tired, lack of oxigen ...........sleepy tongue.gif

thx for helping bro !


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QUOTE(chowsc @ May 12 2006, 10:00 AM)
yeap dude ...jln pasar will do smile.gif
I think u can get it from jln pasar as well (fingerprint recgonition, brand: NEC)
its like the one u can see in the bank smile.gif
wat do u hope to get dude...the items in digi-key is relatively expensive actually  rolleyes.gif
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ohh..haha...u mean jalan pasar sell the component there??or the whole devices??i might wan to do it for my fyp if it's not hard...

Any good idea??I'm now mess up on choosing my title for the project..haizz.. sad.gif

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Guys im new here tongue.gif

Wanna know wad can i built using atmel 89s51 micro c. i've made the controller board but cant find any idea to control wad tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Cloudx @ May 23 2006, 02:22 PM)
Guys im new here tongue.gif

Wanna know wad can i built using atmel 89s51 micro c. i've made the controller board but cant find any idea to control wad tongue.gif
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atmel? 8951? biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif mmu was using tht last time ..and 8051 too biggrin.gif

u can use it for many things tongue.gif remote control cars, small robots tongue.gif
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QUOTE(chowsc @ May 23 2006, 07:05 PM)
atmel? 8951? biggrin.gif  rolleyes.gif  mmu was using tht last time ..and 8051 too biggrin.gif

u can use it for many things tongue.gif remote control cars, small robots tongue.gif
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u know any website that can giv guide on that?
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QUOTE(Cloudx @ May 24 2006, 12:47 AM)
u know any website that can giv guide on that?
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ermmm very hard...coz atmel 8951 is pretty rare nowadays..hermmm actually its pretty easy to find some guides or interesting projects, the tough part is to find a programmer for it smile.gif

something tht i found:
mp3 drive laugh.gif http://www.cs.utah.edu/classes/cs3992/JiggawaxFinal.pdf

happy tutorials whistling.gif http://www.iguanalabs.com/8951Kit.htm

digital thermometer http://www.elecdesign.com/Articles/ArticleID/2476/2476.html (gotta mail the author to get full shchemetic)

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Errrr ... RS only sells readily-printed PCB right?
What I want is to have a factory to produce some PCBs base on the circuits I provide.
Hate to use those veroboards sometimes. Damn ugly tongue.gif
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at old klang road, one company can do custom for you also... a few pcs...
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onemillimeter, still want to buy any thing from digikey... if low cost, I can let you piggyback on my order..(not confirmed yet, maybe 1 week's time)



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one soalan sweat.gif , can or do any of member here know how to construct a mouse(for computer) that connect thru firewire? rclxm9.gif
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oh nice thread! this should be the right place to pose my question..

can anyone suggest a good HE dc motor which is small, lightweight, high rpm, preferably not more than 6V supply?

i'm planning to embark on a small project, a flying robot, as small as possible.. i'll be needing 4 motors as rotors to control flight..

or is there any alternative to dc motors?
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CD-ROM drive spindle motor. For example
http://www.angelfire.com/blues/heli_project/brushless.htm

But the motors usually require both 5V and 12V to operate. 5V for controller and 12V for motor drive. It is perfectly ok to supply 5V instead of 12V for motor drive, but you will not get the power you want.
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hei!! about buiding a robotic car which using stepper motor, what type of motor is suiltable??any1 buy it b4?? the speed no need to fast and yet dun1 it to be too slow.. which 1 i should go for?? hope sifu chowsc and other sifu can help me...
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I am planning to installed automatic light and fan in my bath room.

Anybody know where to get those motion sensor switch that can turn on the fan and light when somebody enter the bath room and turn it off after few minute after the person get out from the room.
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hei!! about buiding a robotic car which using stepper motor, what type of motor is suiltable??any1 buy it b4?? the speed no need to fast and yet dun1 it to be too slow.. which 1 i should go for?? hope sifu chowsc and other sifu can help me...
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Ermmm for saving cost..maybe u try it with those tamiya car engine first ? smile.gif should be able to run normal size toy car ^^
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QUOTE(fyseng @ Jul 7 2006, 12:15 PM)
I am planning to installed automatic light and fan in my bath room.

Anybody know where to get those motion sensor switch that can turn on the fan and light when somebody enter the bath room and turn it off after few minute after the person get out from the room.
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ermmm......how bout installing a sensor at your door? smile.gif lit the room when the person opens the door ? smile.gif then u link the cords of light and fan together smile.gif
Both will be on when a person OPENs the door . This would be the cheapest way to do it ...but its more to semi-auto anyway

smile.gif to get it fully automated....u need to get those motion sensors....which is not efficient and costly smile.gif

just my 2 cents
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hi guys.. i need ur help. Im looking for the sensor that being used on cars. yes the reverse sensor. Wad izzit actually called? wanna get it to use on my FYP.

Im planning to do a robotic waiter. The function of the sensor is to prevent the robot frm getting stuck on the wall when its moving. Now im juz planning all the things i needed to get it started. Gonna go shop for a remote controlled car too tongue.gif
Now i need helps on circuit design stuff. Yea im kinda useless in this stuff.. and i call myself an EE student tongue.gif

Well all help are really appreciated. Kindly PM me if u know any good websites or information that can really help me ya notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Cloudx @ Jul 19 2006, 01:11 PM)
hi guys.. i need ur help. Im looking for the sensor that being used on cars. yes the reverse sensor. Wad izzit actually called? wanna get it to use on my FYP.

Im planning to do a robotic waiter. The function of the sensor is to prevent the robot frm getting stuck on the wall when its moving. Now im juz planning all the things i needed to get it started. Gonna go shop for a remote controlled car too tongue.gif
Now i need helps on circuit design stuff. Yea im kinda useless in this stuff.. and i call myself an EE student tongue.gif

Well all help are really appreciated. Kindly PM me if u know any good websites or information that can really help me ya notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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laugh.gif how sensitive should ur robo be? smile.gif if just it is jsut within a short range (we are talking about CM here )...normal infra red sensors will do ^^



p/s: Sorry ya ......There was a dude asking about PLC ? I deleted your PM by mistake......really really sorry ...can u resend your mes to me ?

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Im planning to installed those sensors surrounding the robo with the range around >1m.
The infra red sensors need both receiver and transmitter rite?
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Im planning to installed those sensors surrounding the robo with the range around >1m.
The infra red sensors need both receiver and transmitter rite?
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Cloudx, u have 2 choices, whether using infrared sensor or ultrasonic sensor.

u need both the transmitter and receiver. put it besides each other. correct me if wrong

but infrared is quite prone to noise such as sun light.

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Jul 20 2006, 12:08 PM)
Cloudx, u have 2 choices, whether using infrared sensor or ultrasonic sensor.

u need both the transmitter and receiver. put it besides each other. correct me if wrong

but infrared is quite prone to noise such as sun light.
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SPICE is program that simulates electronic circuits on your PC. You can view any voltage or current waveform in your circuit. SPICE calculates these voltages and currents versus time (Transient Analysis) or versus frequency (AC Analysis). Most SPICE programs also perform other analysis like DC, Sensitivity, Noise and Distortion.

http://www.ecircuitcenter.com/AboutSPICE.htm

Get the free SPICE software from here:
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QUOTE(kckia @ Jul 23 2006, 09:02 PM)
SPICE is program that simulates electronic circuits on your PC. You can view any voltage or current waveform in your circuit. SPICE calculates these voltages and currents versus time (Transient Analysis) or versus frequency (AC Analysis). Most SPICE programs also perform other analysis like DC, Sensitivity, Noise and Distortion.

http://www.ecircuitcenter.com/AboutSPICE.htm

Get the free SPICE software from here:
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Discover Circuits, with its 23,000+ electronic circuits or electronic schematics cross-referenced into 500+ categories, is a vital resource for engineers, hobbyists, inventors & consultants. The site's collection of links will help you find quick solutions for electronic design problems.

Get them at http://www.discovercircuits.com/list.htm

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QUOTE(kckia @ Jul 24 2006, 12:36 PM)
Discover Circuits, with its 23,000+  electronic circuits or electronic schematics  cross-referenced into 500+ categories, is a vital resource for engineers, hobbyists, inventors & consultants. The site's collection of links will help you find quick solutions for electronic design problems.

Get them at http://www.discovercircuits.com/list.htm

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Thanks for sharing. But i still cannot find the circuit i want... cry.gif
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SIfus, i need some help... smile.gif
Bought some tiny LEDs to mod my Gundam kit, lights dun seem to turn on.
Wire and LED with 1.5watt battery(round flat coin like wan)...no other modification besides the soldering of the joints.

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Anybody knows a good website that sells electronic hobby kits?

Im looking for kits for ultrasonic sensors.
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anyone know where can get stepper motor/DC motor/servo with resonable price? i'm doing a stair climbong robot for my fyp.
Jalan Pasar there got sell motors? Went before there but seems too messy til duno where to find what i want...thanks
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Jalan pasar got sell stepper but hardly get a good 1..datasheet somemore are hard to find...sigh...wow..stair climbing??suppose need a larger torque stepper but it cost very high...few hundreds normally...search for farnell or RS..there got..
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QUOTE(knight @ Aug 30 2006, 11:38 PM)
Jalan pasar got sell stepper but hardly get a good 1..datasheet somemore are hard to find...sigh...wow..stair climbing??suppose need a larger torque stepper but it cost very high...few hundreds normally...search for farnell or RS..there got..
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o...thanks ya...actually i'm searching for a cheaper motor...nvm..i'll go pasar there try look it out next week...
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RS makes good steppers, with high res. If i'm not mistaken, they also manufacture some good stepper control modules which can be driven by 5V (PIC), saving you the trouble of building an interface circuit.


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Robotics hobbyist might be interested here......

ROBOCON Malaysia 2006 will be held at PWTC next weeked (6-7 May).
Competing teams include MMU, UTM (defending champion), Uniten, UKM and others.

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I heard that they're gonna have the international one in PWTC too. Anyone knows what time it starts? Or whether its free admission?
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Hi,
I am doing project for college.
Actually, it is a clothes dryer project using light sensor.
whenever there is light, the clothes will come out to be exposed to the sun and whenever it is dark, the clothes will go into the shed.
It is a motorized dryer...
For the project, I intend to classify the light intensity at 6pm as 'dark'.. In another words, i want the clothes to go in automatically at around 6.. In order to do that, i need to know what is the light intensity at 6pm (preferably in lux). Does anybody know what is the light intensity at 6pm or does anybody know where i can get the info..?
Thanks..
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I heard that they're gonna have the international one in PWTC too. Anyone knows what time it starts? Or whether its free admission?
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yes...the ABU level ROBOCON 2006 will be held in PWTC this sunday (10 Sept)...
the preliminary rounds will start from morning 8 or 9sth...then wil go on til evening where there will be live telecast tru TV1 (semifinal & final match only)....
i'm not so sure bout the admission...
below is the official site for this year robocon...

http://www.robofest.org.my/robocon2006/international.html
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Lets go to Robocon everyone! biggrin.gif

For those of you who entered, but did not make it to the internationals, it's ok!

Just put on that yellow robocon t-shirt which is gathering dust in your cupboard and come along! icon_idea.gif

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Hi,
I am doing project for college.
Actually, it is a clothes dryer project using light sensor.
whenever there is light, the clothes will come out to be exposed to the sun and whenever it is dark, the clothes will go into the shed.
It is a motorized dryer...
For the project, I intend to classify the light intensity at 6pm as 'dark'.. In another words, i want the clothes to go in automatically at around 6.. In order to do that, i need to know what is the light intensity at 6pm (preferably in lux). Does anybody know what is the light intensity at 6pm or does anybody know where i can get the info..?
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U doin this for ur final year project or for ur college???

Well, refering to what has Chowsc has posted b4 did u go and check thoes usefull website?? My oppinion was, U should do more homework b4 posting this...the link chowsc posted have it..very similar i think..u juz need to modify
Regarding to the light intensite at 6pm, no one knows coz the light intensity for whole year and not the same..i think u should juz let it detect the sun and the sensor will put it outside...well, it's might be an easy project coz it does not require a PIC but certain ICs..Correct me if i'm wrong..Good Luck dude...
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anyone can recommend me other electronic shop around kl beside at the jalan pasar?
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hi all, got an assignment going on here tat need some idea from you guys...
i need to construct a DC power supply which takes in 240v AC and have 3.3v,5v,12v,15v and 24v output which have max 250mA load...

here is my idea :

1) AC line -> fuse -> transformer (step down to 24v) -> rectifier -> capacitor (filtering) -> resistor to further step down to each lower value

2) AC line -> fuse -> 5 transformer (step down to each of the 5 values) -> capacitor -> output

which one is practical?
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depending on how you want to use it for!

Are you going to use all at the same time?

Anyway, don't use resistor to reduce voltage. better use regulator or at least zener diode.


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5 transformer seems a lil too ridiculous...
since lecturer say there is only one physical output needed, i choosen to use reostat.

anyway, when it says 24v DC output, does it means peak voltage, RMS voltage or average voltage should be 24v?
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24V-0V-24V is rms value. multiply with sqrt2.

use 1 transformer then use few regulators, 78xx series.

or if u got money, get MVR (Multi Voltage Regulator) used in those car audio system
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If only using one concurrent output IMO you're better off with;
15-0-15 txformer
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anyone know where i can get this kind of electronic snap circuits around KL ?

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hi guys..im a total noob wen it comes to electronics but im slowly learning hoping to one day able to design my own circuitries..i must say those are very interesting web links u guys posted on d first page..

hope sumbody cud help me ere..im intending to do a signal modification to my bike ere but as im still in d process of learning i wud need sifoos help ere:)on my bike ther is no hazard light as such on bigger bikes..wat im tryin to do is to fix a circuit for hazard light on my bike using the existing signal lights..anybody care to help?

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wow...where is ChowSC??? this thread like been deserted for month...

here i got a question to ask, any1 know how to amplify 0.1mA to 15mA?? any idea to amplify this?? I tried using UA741 but wonder is there anywrong in the circuitry..
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^^ me here all the time, jsut that some questions i couldnt answer and not many ppl coming in ...sigh ....hope that this thread wont die so soon ^^
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any1 know how to amplify 0.1mA to 15mA?
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Is it that you want to design a linear current amplifier? That is input of 0.01mA will get output of 1.5mA as well. You should tell more about what kind of signal you want to amplify. What range or amplitude is the input signal, what input and output impedance you expect, and range of frequency of the signal.
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nice...make the thread alive..haha...

actually, the 0.1mA comes from a photosensor...and this signal i need to feedback to my PIC to process some information..there for 0.1mA can't switch on a normal transistor..it's too small...so i thought of using an current amplifier using op amp...but wonder y it does not work...
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So, you use ADC of PIC, that should be voltage, not current. Then, can give more details about your photosensor? If it is photodiode or photoresistor (LDR), you might be able to make it simple; it shouldn't need amplification, just use correct resistor value to bias or form voltage divider.

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I dun need ADC coz I dun need to know the distance...^^...my sensor was obp704...come with both Diode and phototransistor...and i just need to feedback voltage of 5v to my PIC...
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Why don't you do something like this?
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By circuit analysis, when the phototransistor is conducting 200uA, Vout is 0.6V. When phototransistor is not conducting, Vout is 5V. You should use ADC, unless you have a PIC with analog comparator. But then using analog comparator still not as straightforward as ADC. So I will definitely use ADC: very simple electronic circuit. Threshold and Schmitt trigger behaviour easily programmed. And simple to program with ADC.
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If not mistaken i tried this before since this is a basic circuit...ermm....I retry again..mayb my brain hang at the moment...report to u guys few days later...^^ thanx

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still cannot larr..using that circuit..no finally trying on using an op-amp...hell, wonder y i can't amplify up the voltage..something is wrong here...
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this is the circuit to amplify a 5v to 12v but wonder why it seems does not work...Anything wrong with my connections?? need assist here..

http://www.us.oup.com/us/pdf/microcircuits...ps/ua741-st.pdf

using a non-inverting amplifier..

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still cannot larr..using that circuit..no finally trying on using an op-amp...hell, wonder y i can't amplify up the voltage..something is wrong here...
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What type of circuit u use?It would be useful for others to comment, if you got some circuit diagram that you are using.
Anyway, are u using 741 for voltage amplification? What configuration are u using?
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using Non-inverting amplifier..is there any wrong with my circuit...duno what is this 'offset null' for..
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using Non-inverting amplifier..is there any wrong with my circuit...duno what is this 'offset null' for..
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Usually, when the difference of V+ and V- is zero, Vo should be zero(ideal). In some cases it is not zero, so you can use offset null (need to input some voltage in that pin) to make sure Vo is zero, when V+ minus V- is zero.

I dun think there is anything wrong with your circuit (just looked through), seem like inverting configuration. Most importantly, you need to get the data sheet of 741 and look for the minimum voltage need to be applied, to get the output. Try that.

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What does this "amplify a 5v to 12v" has to do with the original light sensor? You are using a 5V PIC aren't you?

There is a flaw with my 22kOhm design because that makes input impedance seen by ADC become 22kOhm, while the maximum recommended is 10kOhm. However using 22kOhm won't cause it fail completely, it's just the acquisition time is lengthened. Nevertheless, changing 22kOhm to 10kOhm resistor also works.

If you're using opamp to improve the input impedance seen by ADC, the opamp should be powered by 5V and 0V, voltage follower circuit. But opamp is not necessary. Adding gain here is like nonsense to me.

Can you measure the output voltage of what I've shown? It should be more than 4V for one condition and less than 3V for another condition. Don't forget to power on the LED (IRED actually). And one more thing, did you burn the LED? (because many of my friend did this kind of mistake of not having correct resistor in series with LED; you must not connect LED to a voltage source without a resistor)
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http://www.us.oup.com/us/pdf/microcircuits...ps/ua741-st.pdf

I posted the data sheet...

Yes, I just try 1st to see whether it works o not...then will try amplify the voltage..since the current are so small...erm...till now i still wonder y i can't get the input for the photosensor...

I dun think there's problem with this circuit as well.. wacko.gif

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^ Wrong circuit. Is up there, between resistor and collector, connect to PIC16F877. Measure the voltage, red probe on collector, black probe on ground.
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neh...then means the PIC will always eat 5V even the phototransistor is on...the voltage drop at the resistor is 5v...
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I tried that actually and it dun works..
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neh...then means the PIC will always eat 5V even the phototransistor is on...the voltage drop at the resistor is 5v...
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I am not sure how much current is coming out of ur phototransistor ( you have to check the datasheet).
But what i can suggest is, u can maintain your configuration as shown in the diagram, but reduce the Rc value (resistor at collector) and put a new Re (resistor at emmiter) with higher value. In this way, voltage drop on Re wll go to your IC. Anyway, you can always use multimeter to check on the voltage level, when its bright and dark, and make a threshold value.
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OMG...it's just the resistor problem only...the current input into the PIC is too low and even if it receive 5v but oso cannot work..Luckily I measure the internal resistance and get a bigger resistor for that..now it works...wahh..this getting me insaint...thanx guys... notworthy.gif


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this is the circuit to amplify a 5v to 12v but wonder why it seems does not work...Anything wrong with my connections?? need assist here..

http://www.us.oup.com/us/pdf/microcircuits...ps/ua741-st.pdf

using a non-inverting amplifier..
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Suggest using a DC-DC buckboost is what you only need is voltage alone and not current to push the PIC to detect the signal, saves you power too tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fx_53_xt @ Sep 15 2006, 02:38 AM)
hi all, got an assignment going on here tat need some idea from you guys...
i need to construct a DC power supply which takes in 240v AC and have 3.3v,5v,12v,15v and 24v output which have max 250mA load...

here is my idea :

1) AC line -> fuse -> transformer (step down to 24v)  -> rectifier -> capacitor (filtering) -> resistor to further step down to each lower value

2) AC line -> fuse -> 5 transformer (step down to each of the 5 values) -> capacitor -> output

which one is practical?
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Don't need to use 5 transformers, just use a single one with multiple windings, you can't have 5 windings of course, but less work in one place always helps. Select power levels that are generally the same and then regulate from there. The 12 volt winding/line can be used to supply the 3.3v and 5v lines with high current LDOs (LM1117 or TI's UCC283), the 24v winding can be set to 15v with a trimpotted regulator based on the LM317 (pretty much a simple cap, a 20k trimpot across the control lines and a few resistors)
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same like what I say before larrrr!

LM317 can also supply high current using bypass PNP Txistor. but at lower cost than high current LDO regulator.
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omg...its been a while since this thread been updated..will work more on it ..guys...really sorry for the negligence
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ah.... electronics,
designed and build 2 robotic bugs for my FYP 2 yrs ago,
was fun, so much work for 3mths, result was great...
but had to part 1 of the bug wif my partner.... now left redundant in my house

may revive or build a v2 next !

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Hey guys,

I dont really know where to post this, but i'm currently doing my FYP. My title is Tunable Sound Emission Unit. I have the circuit design ready and the circuit works fien a breadboard as ive already tested with a digital OSK. But i'm having trouble getting it to work on a stripboard. I'm a really poor solderer as i have very little practice with it.

I was wondering if you guys know anyone i can ask to solder the circuit for me. Its a really simple circuit with only 3 IC's. I'd gladly pay good money to anyone who can help me. So if ur interested or u know anyone who wants to make a quick buck, please PM me ASAP. Your assistance is much appreciated. Thanks !

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imma now building amplifiers and other destructive thinggies. Finished my FYP sometime back, it was a simple DAC circuit for compressive audio encoding. Now i'm going back to simple hobbist circuits.
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QUOTE(haflife @ Apr 12 2007, 01:17 AM)
Hey guys,

I dont really know where to post this, but i'm currently doing my FYP. My title is Tunable Sound Emission Unit. I have the circuit design ready and the circuit works fien a breadboard as ive already tested with a digital OSK. But i'm having trouble getting it to work on a stripboard. I'm a really poor solderer as i have very little practice with it.

I was wondering if you guys know anyone i can ask to solder the circuit for me. Its a really simple circuit with only 3 IC's. I'd gladly pay good money to anyone who can help me. So if ur interested or u know anyone who wants to make a quick buck, please PM me ASAP. Your assistance is much appreciated. Thanks !
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http://www.edaboard.com
http://www.hackaday.com

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Hi guys.Im a DIY know-nothing-about-how-it-works electronic fan.Just build electronic circuits for fun.

My next project is a 100W amplifier to replace my current lunch box 20W amplifier.Not to forget some new speakers.
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Hi guys.Im a DIY know-nothing-about-how-it-works electronic fan.Just build electronic circuits for fun.

My next project is a 100W amplifier to replace my current lunch box 20W amplifier.Not to forget some new speakers.
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What type of amplifier you want to build??

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Im planning to build another sound stereo amplifier.
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need advice here.

would it matter to replace the electrostatic capacitor with ceramic type?

and also, replace ceramic type with electrostatic...

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need advice here.

would it matter to replace the electrostatic capacitor with ceramic type?

and also, replace ceramic type with electrostatic...

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I guess you mean Electrolytic capacitor and Ceramic capacitor.
There is only one significant difference between these two capacitors. Electrolytic capacitor should be connected by considering its polarity (the +ve and -ve terminal) but for ceramic polarity is not important (means you can connect which way you want to connect also).

For more info :- Try wiki Electrolytic capacitor
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I guess you mean Electrolytic capacitor and Ceramic capacitor.
There is only one significant difference between these two capacitors. Electrolytic capacitor should be connected by considering its polarity (the +ve and -ve terminal) but for ceramic polarity is not important (means you can connect which way you want to connect also).

For more info :- Try wiki Electrolytic capacitor
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some say ceramic capasitor has better noice filter effect...?
would this affect my amplifier?

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some say ceramic capasitor has better noice filter effect...?
would this affect my amplifier?

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As in mathematically speaking, ceramic or electrolyte capacitor, we are just concerned about its capacitance, thats all.
Usually, in fact most of the time ceramic capacitors are lower capacitance.
So in that case, with low capacitance, high frequency signals can be filtered well (because the impedance of the capacitor will be large).
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QUOTE(ryansxs @ May 26 2007, 09:22 PM)
As in mathematically speaking, ceramic or electrolyte capacitor, we are just concerned about its capacitance, thats all.
Usually, in fact most of the time ceramic capacitors are lower capacitance.
So in that case, with low capacitance, high frequency signals can be filtered well (because the impedance of the capacitor will be large).
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I would caution againts using that line of thought because real capacitors have ESR, DCL, Tangent Angle loss, PPM temp deviation and stability and many other specs such as noise. So it very much depends on where you're using it.
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I tried to build a crystal radio before, it was fun, but kinda hard to get material from here.. I once asked the electronic shop owner about magnet wire, he told me he don't know what is it.. swt sweat.gif My dad have to go out station to buy those stuff for me.. blush.gif

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QUOTE(leewai @ Jun 19 2007, 08:14 PM)
I tried to build a crystal radio before, it was fun, but kinda hard to get material from here.. I once asked the electronic shop owner about magnet wire, he told me he don't know what is it.. swt sweat.gif  My dad have to go out station to buy those stuff for me.. blush.gif

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I would caution againts using that line of thought because real capacitors have ESR, DCL, Tangent Angle loss, PPM temp deviation and stability and many other specs such as noise. So it very much depends on where you're using it.
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As you saying, it is very much depends on where you are using the capacitor.
As for simple audio applications, we do not need to be very particular, as the noise tolerance is limited by the user itself.
Of coz in high precision circuits, other factors such as temperature should be considered.
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As you saying, it is very much depends on where you are using the capacitor.
As for simple audio applications, we do not need to be very particular, as the noise tolerance is limited by the user itself.
Of coz in high precision circuits, other factors such as temperature should be considered.
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Not really, for audio circuits, ESR can combine with Series resistance to form an LP filter of sorts and having a knee too early isn't exactly good, you might cut out or attenuate higher order frequencies. Plus electrolytics aren't linear enough for anyone's liking in audiorange when placed in the signal path, and they tend to skew frequency response, especially cheaper ones.

Plus there is a chance of miscalculating feedback depending due to cap constraints.
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Not really, for audio circuits, ESR can combine with Series resistance to form an LP filter of sorts and having a knee too early isn't exactly good, you might cut out or attenuate higher order frequencies. Plus electrolytics aren't linear enough for anyone's liking in audiorange when placed in the signal path, and they tend to skew frequency response, especially cheaper ones.

Plus there is a chance of miscalculating feedback depending due to cap constraints.
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What type of capacitors you usually use in your design (i mean amplifiers)?
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What type of capacitors you usually use in your design (i mean amplifiers)?
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For filters, i prefer Silver Mica, i also like it for ground decoupling due to it's somewhat better characteristics in the stability domain. I also use Ceramics when decoupling ground to V+, i use values depending on the frequency of the noise i want to hammer out, but i like .1 uF as my standard.

For the power supply, i use Electrolytics as the main filter and capacitance tanks. For bypassing and snubberizing, i use high voltage self healing films since they work well with high frequency pulses and can help stop EMI and RFI from penetrating the design. And last if not least, tantalums for regulator stability.
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I have developing a line following robot. The schematic can be found in this page.

http://www.james.vroman.com/javbot1a.htm

I didn't not build the exact circuit but some parts of it i left it out. I did not include the multiplexer 74HCT138 and comparator LM311. What i did is only using a IR sensor a H-bridge and a motor.

I have tested the IR with a LED replacing the motor and it works. Whenever i replaced the motor back, it won't turn. The battery i am using is that square sized 9V battery. The MicroC i am using is 16F84A. The motor i am using is slightly larger than ordinary tamiya motor; a round shaped motor.

I even tried using a smaller motor(i think they call it micromotor and the size is smaller than ordinary tamiya motor) but the same thing turns out. I also tried using op-am 741 to amplify the output voltage but nothing happen.

I tried operating the op-am on a separate circuit using whatever kind of configurations. Without load, the amplification works perfectly but when i connected it with the motor, it screwed up. Anyone can give me ideas to deal with the problems?
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guys....
i need help with my project. doing some electronic locator thingy. something like a wireless doorbell but more like a key locator o sometin like tat. to locate some misplace items. can anyone help me where to find info abt tis project? o mb u guys can share wit me some idea?
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locator? smile.gif put RFID tags on all items...hehehe then when u misplaced any of them, use a scanner to locate it ...but not for long range tho.
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i tot o using RFID. but RFID needs a reader rite?
plus RFID usually needs a pc to decode the thing rite? i just wan to use a normal RF la....i tot o using say...5 frequency to lacate 5 items. but i need help in designing the transmitter reciever. can help me where i can find info on tis?
o if u haf a circuit design on it d...can share wit me? hehe
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Why use RFID as key locater while u can use it as a key.

How about RFID door opener?

You need a simple microcontroller,Rfid reader and card, selenoid and a little bit programming. Everyone of your family members can have different ID onthe RFID card to open the door.

Cost about RM500.


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i'm planning to build robot for my FYP...th ename of my robot is intelligent autonomous rover robot...the robot can elak obstacle when doing exploration..rite now still doing the design..dunno what design should i use...anyone can give opinion bout my project...
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i just wonder is it possible for a laymen like me who doesn't even have the basic knowledge on circuits (i can say i even fail the theory questions in kemahiran hidup tingkatan 3) to move into this hobby?

is it hard to learn about eletronic stuffs (as hobby)?

before i even drown myself in pools of information, can somebody kind enuf to throw in some links to tutorials/ fundamental info on this hobby that is comprehensive even to newcomers?

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why the higher input impedance is better in amplifer?
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so that the all signal voltage will drop in the input of the amplifier. therefore no voltage is lost elsewhere.
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so that the all signal voltage will drop in the input of the amplifier. therefore no voltage is lost elsewhere.
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noob questions

when I look at the internal component of an omamp, I saw that the input and output are not connected, why is it so?how are you going to amplify the signal?

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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Aug 16 2007, 12:43 PM)
noob questions

when I look at the internal component of an omamp, I saw that the input and output are not connected, why is it so?how are you going to amplify the signal?

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Good question.
Well the diagram that you are referring is just the model representation of an op-amp circuit. That is not the real internal circuit of an op amp. You may look at the link here, to see the internal circuit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OpAmpTr...red_Labeled.svg

To make our calculations easier, we tend to use the model of op-amp circuit.
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how to prove Ib3=Ie3/1 +beta?

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Hi...currently im doing IR transmitter and receiver circuit,well basically..transmitter had oredi done,jus tat my receiver got a bit problem,whenver my receiver detect IR signal from my transmitter,it only detected for 1 or 2 seconds,wonder wut going wrong??izzit frequency not correct??i use modulated receiver..which the output shud be either 1 or 0,i had changed several receiver but still get the same result..help pls!!
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whats ur application ? r u sure u got the right pair of transmitter and receiver as there are different of wavelength for IR
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QUOTE(sooyewguan @ Sep 11 2007, 10:22 PM)
whats ur application ? r u sure u got the right pair of transmitter and receiver as there are different of wavelength for IR
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yaya...tats confusing me actually..cos most of the shop don provide datasheet for the IR transmitter and receiver..can u shwo some list??basically im building a robot to avoid obstacles..then if the IR signal detected any object in front,it will reflect back to my receiver...

i need a proper datasheet of the transmitter and receiver as i don kno much bout it...and those shop selling in jalan pasar don provide them doh.gif
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yaya...tats confusing me actually..cos most of the shop don provide datasheet for the IR transmitter and receiver..can u shwo some list??basically im building a robot to avoid obstacles..then if the IR signal detected any object in front,it will reflect back to my receiver...

i need a proper datasheet of the transmitter and receiver as i don kno much bout it...and those shop selling in jalan pasar don provide them doh.gif
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Normal shop does not provide you datasheets, you have to search for it.
Just google for it or register to www.farnell.com or www.rscomponents.com, and try searching in their database for datasheets.
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QUOTE(ryansxs @ Sep 14 2007, 09:35 AM)
Normal shop does not provide you datasheets, you have to search for it.
Just google for it or register to www.farnell.com or www.rscomponents.com, and try searching in their database for datasheets.
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Alright..thxs for the info,ill try to search the correct sensor for my project
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if money is not a problem, just buy the sharp IR module and all your problem will be solved, good luck.
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Anybody know where I can source for these potentiometers:
- 25k log (25k A)
- 250k linear (250k B)
- 100k reverse log (100k C)

I went to Jalan Pasar already but still couldn't find the 25k A and 100k C. They only have 250k B.

Where can I get this Triple pole Double throw (3pdt) footswitch? Need this for true bypass switching purpose smile.gif

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jun 26 2007, 02:30 AM)
For capacitors in the signal path, i'll stick with metallized film polyprolene or polyphenyl sulphate caps, although i will go to Polyester and if forced to, then ultra high quality electrolytics. If possible, and if i can keep the offset low enough by properly tuning the power supply, i won't even use caps at all. But then again, they're like condoms, they give you that extra safety net if shit happens, but it's always not as good as just sticking it without one.

For filters, i prefer Silver Mica, i also like it for ground decoupling due to it's somewhat better characteristics in the stability domain. I also use Ceramics when decoupling ground to V+, i use values depending on the frequency of the noise i want to hammer out, but i like .1 uF as my standard.

For the power supply, i use Electrolytics as the main filter and capacitance tanks. For bypassing and snubberizing, i use high voltage self healing films since they work well with high frequency pulses and can help stop EMI and RFI from penetrating the design. And last if not least, tantalums for regulator stability.
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Do you know which shop in Jalan Pasar got sell flim type of capasitor? Asked most of the shops there already and they only have electrolytic type.
I want to use the flim type capasitors for my signal path. What is the best capasitor type for signal path?

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QUOTE(Calcool77 @ Sep 10 2007, 07:23 PM)
Hi...currently im doing IR transmitter and receiver circuit,well basically..transmitter had oredi done,jus tat my receiver got a bit problem,whenver my receiver detect IR signal from my transmitter,it only detected for 1 or 2 seconds,wonder wut going wrong??izzit frequency not correct??i use modulated receiver..which the output shud be either 1 or 0,i had changed several receiver but still get the same result..help pls!!
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Wat's ur frequency on ur 555 of ur transmitter? Try use 37-39
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tomy i-sobot to be realeased soon...about RM1k... resonably priced for a dozen or so servos..


Added on October 27, 2007, 12:31 pm17 servos to be exact (with 220 degress turn), comes with 3 rechargeble AA bateries for the bot and a charger that would take AA bateries as well.. The remotes uses 3 AA bateries

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Hello guy any1 have any idea where I can buy a biometric fingerprint reader tried the Farnell and RS Components.I also call their customer hot line seem they don't have them.Any1 know a place that I can buy them from and how to contact them thnx... smile.gif
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I saw two fingerprint reader at Tmn Melawati Buy, Sell & Trade. Maybe you could look at used items shop.
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http://www.buyselltrade.com.my

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both have their respective location map
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i never knew that this thread existed..
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q1 anyone know who has a pulse transformer or interested in helping me build one?
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why the higher input impedance is better in amplifer?
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Because a high input Z means that it wont load the source behind it.


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lol, simple, just multitap the thing.
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QUOTE(spx @ Sep 19 2007, 04:36 PM)
Anybody know where I can source for these potentiometers:
- 25k log (25k A)
- 250k linear (250k B)
- 100k reverse log (100k C)

I went to Jalan Pasar already but still couldn't find the 25k A and 100k C. They only have 250k B.

Where can I get this Triple pole Double throw (3pdt) footswitch? Need this for true bypass switching purpose smile.gif

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Do you know which shop in Jalan Pasar got sell flim type of capasitor? Asked most of the shops there already and they only have electrolytic type.
I want to use the flim type capasitors for my signal path. What is the best capasitor type for signal path?
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try finding them in RS or farnell..or even from USA = www.digikey.com



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QUOTE(ryansxs @ May 26 2007, 11:54 AM)
I guess you mean Electrolytic capacitor and Ceramic capacitor.
There is only one significant difference between these two capacitors. Electrolytic capacitor should be connected by considering its polarity (the +ve and -ve terminal) but for ceramic polarity is not important (means you can connect which way you want to connect also).

For more info :- Try wiki Electrolytic capacitor
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actually there is some different .. well it's a about ESR,ESL.

http://powerelectronics.com/mag/power_gett...mic_capacitors/

Although tantalum and electrolytic cap is much much more expensive than a ceramic, but it do have it pros.

just 2 cents
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^^ go for branded ones like Sanwa (from Japan, and it will cost ya about +-RM250)

but this is for analog type tho... Digital ones might cost more...^^

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not an active thread,sad..not many hobbyist in msia i think..
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Actually I want to buy a 145mA, 2V dc motor..... i don't have transport to go to Jalan Pasar.

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QUOTE(intanying91 @ Jun 13 2008, 10:07 PM)
tongue.gif And one more----www.escol.com.my
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Actually I want to buy a 145mA, 2V dc motor..... i don't have transport to go to Jalan Pasar.
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cytron.com.my

i think its best u can get to jln pasar... u won know wat suits u if u dun see it for urself... wat r u planning to build anyway?

oh by the way, anyone here has experience in radio frequency transmission? i would need some help for my project... tongue.gif

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well anybody can recommend which PIC development and debugger kit is nice to use?
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ya a programmer that can debug and test also. but nvm d i get it from my lecturer
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jacklsw86, you from mmu melaka ?
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yep im from mmu melaka. just got microchip's ICD2 from my lecturer. somehow still need to set up my own lcd display cause that demo board don't have lcd.
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u taking mini project ?

lcd display quite straight forward. interfacing that ciruit is the tricky part
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not mini project le. for my fyp. got rfid reader sumore. hmm do you know any electronics shop in penang? i'm going back there for break.
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HI im looking for usb ISP programmer for Atmel That support AT89S8285 , AT89S8285 OR most of 89S family thanks
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all AT89S family mcus isp can be activated via atmel isp software and the cable. i diy-ed the cable but for now still under testing cos not reliable. I canot find the model of mcu that you mentioned.
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a part of my project is to control electrical appliances using pc.

parallel port<mcu<electrical appliances ie: lamps,fans etc

a friend did almost the same project only that he uses led to demonstrate the appliances part where he needn't to consider 240V ac supply from ac mains. here is where i got it all confused.

1)how do we isolate the high voltage from mcu and pc?
-i googled around and found this. http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/control_...&select=1286423
It says opto coupler isolate the pc from ac power supply. How about the relay?i only heard about these two components over a year ago. so, complete noob here.

2) i want to add a dimmer circuit connected to my lamp/bulb.

pc>mcu>dimmer>lamp>ac mains

i should add an opto coupler between mcu and dimmer, no?


my primary concern is safety.So i need some assurance that this will not blow up on me. *Hee*


Added on September 10, 2008, 8:44 pmhelp, anyone?

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Buying microchip online? Just go to http://www.farnellinone.com/ << can buy 1 unit and student get 10%discount
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Thanks for the list of companies..really helpful.. rclxms.gif

Just got 1 electronics kit from escol...want to try after raya biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(sshlady @ Sep 9 2008, 03:39 PM)
a part of my project is to control electrical appliances using pc.

parallel port<mcu<electrical appliances ie: lamps,fans etc

a friend did almost the same project only that he uses led to demonstrate the appliances part where he needn't to consider 240V ac supply from ac mains. here is where i got it all confused.

1)how do we isolate the high voltage from mcu and pc?
-i googled around and found this. http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/control_...&select=1286423
It says opto coupler isolate the pc from ac power supply. How about the relay?i only heard about these two components over a year ago. so, complete noob here.

2) i want to add a dimmer circuit connected to my lamp/bulb.

pc>mcu>dimmer>lamp>ac mains

i should add an opto coupler between mcu and dimmer, no?
my primary concern is safety.So i need some assurance that this will not blow up on me. *Hee*


Added on September 10, 2008, 8:44 pmhelp, anyone?
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i'm going less technical with the explaination. What youre planning to to do is actually quite easy. On a parallel port (That LPT1), each 'ON' state supply 5v on the each of the 8 output pins.

so what you should do is pretty much use that 5v to flick a wall switch. That where the relay comes in. the 5v will drive the relay which will to turn on another circuit, in this case the AC 240 main switch for the appliance. Your friend on the other hand uses that 5v directly to light up an LED.

How to achive the ON state on the pins, is by programmatically duping the PC into believing it's talking to a printer/etc thru the parallel port.

the guide above pretty much explains that, and it comes with the DLL that simplifies the process. But you still need to be handy with VB.NET/C# to make any good use of it. write a code that call the DLL and use the HEX addressing to trigger the ON state on the pin u choose. each pin will have one relay, tht switch one circuit, that will turn ON one appliance.

The opto coupler are there to protect your PC's motherboard from back EMF coming from the parallel port. It's good to have if you love your PC, but not a nessessity to get it to work.


And finally, do you want to control the dimming from the PC as well? If yes, then thereare two approach to that, mechanical approach or by using a controller. Well go to that once you've experimented with the above guide and understands the "idea" first.


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Hi guys. I'm thinking of getting the ICD2 LE, programmer with in-circuit debugger capability. Microchip is having a 60% discount. The price after discount is about RM200+ including delivery. The usual price is RM400+.

Anyone interested to get one so that we could share the delivery cost?

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Dear all Electronics Enthusiasts rclxms.gif
I m not qualified for this category coz I m total blurr in electronics....but i need advice from you expert out there and I hope you can help me thumbup.gif

I m thinking of getting an electrical appliance from US which states 110v.
In order for me to use in Msia with 220v, I need to get a transformer rite?
My questions :-

1. If i use this item with transformer for long term, will it affect the performance? In other word, will the item (the appliance) become not long lasting?
2. What kind of transformer to get if the item is 575 watt? Is there a difference voltage of transformer to get?
3. Any particular brand that you experts out there can recommend?
4. PPl tell me that with higher wattage, the transformer has to be 'stronger' and higher risk of the electrical appliance get 'burnt'. Is it true?

All and all, can you advise me whether is advisable to get the item from US with 110v? (price is a factor as it is 3 or close to 4 times cheaper ;-)

thanks so much and appreciate your advise soon....thanks!
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Dear all Electronics Enthusiasts  rclxms.gif
I m not qualified for this category coz I m total blurr in electronics....but i need advice from you expert out there and I hope you can help me  thumbup.gif

I m thinking of getting an electrical appliance from US which states 110v.
In order for me to use in Msia with 220v(230V), I need to get a transformer rite?(Yes)
My questions :-

1. If i use this item with transformer for long term, will it affect the performance? In other word, will the item (the appliance) become not long lasting? (Depends - see my comment below)
2. What kind of transformer to get if the item is 575 watt? (Can use one rated 1KW)Is there a difference voltage of transformer to get?(Look for the right spec)
3. Any particular brand that you experts out there can recommend?(Depends on spec and $$$)
4. PPl tell me that with higher wattage, the transformer has to be 'stronger' and higher risk of the electrical appliance get 'burnt'. Is it true?(Yes, under-rated transformer will burnt - don't risk your house)

All and all, can you advise me whether is advisable to get the item from US with 110v? (price is a factor as it is 3 or close to 4 times cheaper ;-) (Personal preference)

thanks so much and appreciate your advise soon....thanks!
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Refer to my comment in bold. And take note these.

1) Mains voltage and 2) Mains frequency.

What is the recommended operating voltage and the tolerance (e.g. 110V +/-10% 50Hz) as indicated in the user manual or printed on appliance? If you can provide more details (specs and what appliance) then we may provide more accurate assistance to you.

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QUOTE(rad200 @ Dec 16 2008, 08:48 PM)
Refer to my comment in bold. And take note these.

1) Mains voltage and 2) Mains frequency.

What is the recommended operating voltage and the tolerance (e.g. 110V +/-10% 50Hz) as indicated in the user manual or printed on appliance? If you can provide more details (specs and what appliance) then we may provide more accurate assistance to you.
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Hi Rad200, I don't hv the full specs but it's running (correct phrase?) at 110v and 575 watt. It's a electrical mixer. Can you provide me some of the brands for transformer? As I have no idea where and what to look out for and also to purchase... rclxub.gif

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Hi Rad200, I don't hv the full specs but it's running (correct phrase?) at 110v and 575 watt. It's a electrical mixer. Can you provide me some of the brands for transformer? As I have no idea where and what to look out for and also to purchase... rclxub.gif
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I am assuming you refer to electrical food mixer. If it uses AC induction motor then you need to know this. In M'sia the main frequency is 50Hz, US uses 60Hz. Some AC induction motors are sensitive to that. When you use it here the motor may turn slower or may even oscillate and overheat (worst case). I suggest you check with the supplier to get their opinion too.

If you are in Penang you may go to shops like Thye Huat as I hv seen them carrying 1 or 2 brands. EKK brand can be commonly found (since it is made locally).
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I've been looking for a community of electronics/robotics enthusiasts in Malaysia for quite some time (other then the ones in the IPTs). Does anyone out there know where, if it exists, can I find these communities. Or is this as close it gets hmm.gif ?
I've been looking forward to continue on building electronic gadgets and robots. Previously, I get do it in the uni. Now, no more sad.gif . It's just no fun if u'r building something on u'r own. Cannot discuss or compare or compete. Really want to find a community that would like to build these things together or compete with each other or go and participate other competitions outside....

Anyone???
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tomy i-sobot to be realeased soon...about RM1k... resonably priced for a dozen or so servos..


Added on October 27, 2007, 12:31 pm17 servos to be exact (with 220 degress turn), comes with 3 rechargeble AA bateries for the bot and a charger that would take AA bateries as well.. The remotes uses 3 AA bateries

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Hiya,
I've been looking for a community of electronics/robotics enthusiasts in Malaysia for quite some time (other then the ones in the IPTs). Does anyone out there know where, if it exists, can I find these communities. Or is this as close it gets  hmm.gif ?
I've been looking forward to continue on building electronic gadgets and robots. Previously, I get do it in the uni. Now, no more  sad.gif . It's just no fun if u'r building something on u'r own. Cannot discuss or compare or compete. Really want to find a community that would like to build these things together or compete with each other or go and participate other competitions outside....

Anyone???
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yeah, me 2. where are you from?
i m from robotics background. also looking for ppl can doing this thing together also:)
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yeah, me 2. where are you from?
i m from robotics background. also looking for ppl can doing this thing together also:)


I'm from PeeJay...
I thought that nobody would reply. I'm from Electronics background but been doin a few robots previously in the Uni. Like automation and control.
Anything up or any project u r thinking of?

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anyone knows where can i find ET51??? http://www.dzdev.com/et51.html
It is a DIY programmer for Atmel IC.


Added on February 3, 2009, 5:56 pmAnyone knows where can i get ET51? http://www.dzdev.com/et51.html
It is a programmer for Atmel IC

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hi, everyone, i am a newbie here..
i am a electrical student but taing some course about electronic but my result on electronic really weak...
so i think i need to work harder on this part n recently i have go to several web page and find some electrnic project to enchance my knowledge and try to do, but i found that i really cant i understand the thing.

so can anybody give me some advise how to start from zero and beginner...tq...i really hope can learnt a lot of thing fromu all..for me u all really very profesional....
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channan,

what IC do you wanna program ?

talk to fritzlist. he should be able to direct you.


hanskoh,

what kind of electronics are you interested in ? There are many types of hobbyists out there. Some play only audio, some are into robotics, some are into gadgets.

Try to see what kind of electronics make you tick. That should get you started in the right direction.

And remember, don't be afraid to ASK ! As long as you try, there will be people willing to help you out. It also helps if you use google for a bit first smile.gif

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Hi guys. Not much thread count since the last time I visited. Out of blue, it appears on first page of hobbies forum laugh.gif

I am an electronic enthusiast here, a humble hobbyist though tongue.gif Don't know much about electronics actually, my background is mechanical. Did a robotic project back in my final year, and screw up the electronics part. tongue.gif

My main interest is in microcontroller and robotic. Currently relearning the microchip PIC programming (not at atmel fan here). Just started recently. Got a few lame LED running doh.gif . Now working on RGB LED, typical control like fading, etc. and LCD control.

Nothing much in mind. Probably will try to do a simple calculator via the LCD, then move on the GLCD for graph plotting thumbup.gif

Once got a hand on those then will only try get back into robotics.
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anyone know where can I get these wheels in KL?? or malaysia on9 stores besides cytron? http://www.solarbotics.com/products/gm10w_deal/ I tried to look in jalan pasar but they didn't sell it.
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It's quite difficult to obtain items like this in Malaysia. If you want exactly like that, you'll have a hard time. Try looking at Nixie. The outlet is located just in front of Pudu Plaza. The Jalan Landak wan. But still, the robotic kits they have are from cytron oso.
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hi sakaic

i am actually more interest in audio since u told me tat have so many category..
may i know hoe to start exploring?
i really dun noe how to start...
izzit need to start soldering some example project?
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I have a schematic diagram here.. i was wondering if some of the experienced guys over here could help me verify if this circuit would work if i were to build it. Its a rather simple circuit, here is the part list for the circuit and also the diagram... hope someone could give me some comments... thanks alot

C1 10nF ceramic disc capacitor

C2 100nF ceramic disc capacitor

C3 1000uF electrolytic capacitor

D1 1N4148 signal diode

D2 LED

Q1 BC327 TO-92 transistor

R1 10K 0.25W variable resistor

R2 1K 0.25W variable resistor

R3, R4 470R 0.5W resistor

U1 TL072 Op-amp

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This circuit basically consists of P1 and P2 which are measurement rods driven into soil.. and a voltage will be indicated at the voltmeter attached at P3 and P4, potentiometer R1 is to adjust the range of the voltage so that it will be between the 15 v voltmeter. The op amp basically compares the value.. R2 is adjusted till the motor starts ( motor outputs are P6 and P5) the transistor amplifies the current to the motor, while the diode avoids the circuit from getting burnt from the motors inductance while the capacitors help smoother the circuits output
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dello,
What is the actual purpose of this circuit?
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Its a soil resistance sensor... P1 and P2 are the sensing rods
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Have you tried to measure the soil resistance using a multimeter? Just to see if the specimen or the system using resistance works.

Btw, has anyone here tried to make closed loop speed controller from a normal DC motor and self made parts? Meaning that we can run the DC motor at specific speeds even with variable load (within tolerable limit). I've always been fascinated by the Micromouse. But I've always stuct at that part. Never had enough motivation to go around doing that these days.... sad.gif

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That part I know.. whats the motor for?

QUOTE(dello @ Mar 5 2009, 01:44 PM)
Its a soil resistance sensor... P1 and P2 are the sensing rods
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this is the idea of the project... this is how it basically work's

Basically there will be a grounding electrode between the measuring rods.. My objective is to lower the soil resistivity in order to maintain the resistance between the grounding electrode to soil.. This is important in order to maintain grounding electrodes resistance at an acceptable range.
So the measuring rods gives me an indication of the soil resistance (this is not a valid measurement since its not the 4 pole testing arrangement) but it gives me an indication.. Meaning that at this point the grounding resistance is at an acceptable value. So when ever the resistance between the rods goes above this value.. my valve need to be open and sprinkle the solution on the test area.. And it should close when the resistance between the rods decreases to the earlier acceptable value. So my control circuit only powers the valve to open and close.. Meaning the water pump is powered by a separate power supply.



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oo..interesting stuff. hav u got it patented? =p
sounds something useful for d agriculture stuff
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dello,

what is the U1 opamp doing?

i think it is better to separate the motor control circuit and the resistivity sensing circuit.

make ur U2 opamp into an upper bounded comparator that output on or off signal into the motor control circuit.

as u asked why the voltmeter didn't work, i couldn't see a problem with the voltmeter part of the schematic. try to make a measurement to make sure the voltmeter is fine, and proceed to verify ur component one by one.

if you're building the prototype using breadboard, make sure all components is inserted properly that they are completely a closed circuit.
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I have a better version of the circuit... wat do u guys think about this..are the components easy to obtain? where should i put the voltmeter in between the probes would be fine right?

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Added on March 6, 2009, 5:00 pmuser posted image

I tried making this circuit on multisim... can someone verify that its similar to the original circuit above... icon_question.gif

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/LM%2FLM311.pdf here is the data sheet for the comparator.. are they way i connected the pins right? im unsure coz im still a newbie in electronics hmm.gif

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Yeah.... It is the same.

Why do you draw it out on Multisim? I assume that you can't test the circuit using software since you cannot input the soil into Multisim.

Why don't you just build the circuit and test it?
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i tested it in multisim..it works.. the soil can be assumed as just a resistance.. so can realize this using a resistor.. thats how i tested it
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Then start building it. Tell me if it is working.

If you can't get LM311(which i don't know if it is hard to get), you can always use other voltage comparator like LM339 or LM393 (which is easier to get)
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i hv done it already.. it works... the output are also working.. biggrin.gif


Added on March 8, 2009, 11:47 pmnow need to build the circuit in real... and need to do some measuring for the soil.. how long will it take me to interface the reading to a pc? is it complicated? any comments

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Hi all....please let me know if i am in the wrong forum....hope you guys can help me out

I am building a space craft and wanted to add a couple of led lights to it. Its a simple circuit connecting the led lights to 2 AA batteries. I need help on how to make the led blink with an interval like those on commercial airline...

Thanks in advance
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QUOTE(mywii @ Mar 10 2009, 04:23 PM)
Hi all....please let me know if i am in the wrong forum....hope you guys can help me out

I am building a space craft and wanted to add a couple of led lights to it. Its a simple circuit connecting the led lights to 2 AA batteries. I need help on how to make the led blink with an interval like those on commercial airline...

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You can build a spacecraft but dont know how to build a blinking circuit? jk tongue.gif

Try google for "RC circuit LED", or "555 Timer LED".
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You can build a spacecraft but dont know how to build a blinking circuit? jk tongue.gif

Try google for "RC circuit LED", or "555 Timer LED".
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engineer and electrician different mah.... tongue.gif
hey bro thanks ...hope this things can get at jalan pudu
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QUOTE(mywii @ Mar 13 2009, 08:54 AM)
engineer and electrician different mah.... tongue.gif
hey bro thanks ...hope this things can get at jalan pudu
Or you can rip the RM3 to RM5 led torch lights... some which have intermitent functions
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hey guys, just to ask some questions....i'm trying to make a SMS controlled application which i'll b able to turn on/off home appliances by SMS, if i wan to write it in assembly language (.asm) which software is recommended and have any source of downloading it? thx, FYI i'm doing it with PIC16F873A, GSM modem, controlled by RS232 interface. If u guys happen to have the source code of it, mind to share?Thanks
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QUOTE(louyit @ Mar 13 2009, 01:42 PM)
hey guys, just to ask some questions....i'm trying to make a SMS controlled application which i'll b able to turn on/off home appliances by SMS, if i wan to write it in assembly language (.asm) which software is recommended and have any source of downloading it? thx, FYI i'm doing it with PIC16F873A, GSM modem, controlled by RS232 interface. If u guys happen to have the source code of it, mind to share?Thanks
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This is a typical final year project. I know there are people who are willing to get paid to do this project for you.

PIC16F873A is a microchip product, try download MPLAB from microchip website. It’s a free assembly software and compiler.

You should be doing your research, and generate your own source code…. No offense, but this is as much as I can help (unless I get paid if you want free info biggrin.gif )

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QUOTE(Aurora @ Mar 13 2009, 02:36 PM)
This is a typical final year project. I know there are people who are willing to get paid to do this project for you.

PIC16F873A is a microchip product, try download MPLAB from microchip website. It’s a free assembly software and compiler.

You should be doing your research, and generate your own source code…. No offense, but this is as much as I can help (unless I get paid if you want free info biggrin.gif )
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Haha,thx for the info bro,yup it's a final year project, and i guess i'll be taking ppl's source code to do editing, due to the fact dat engineering students (not all, but most) suck at programming sad.gif ....anyway, MPLAB huh?ok will try 2 dl it, how about MikroC does it supports ASM?if yes...can teach me?thx rclxms.gif
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mikroC is a C compiler, using C language, not assembly. I am not familiar with mikroC codes, but generally it should be identical as other C compiler. I am using PIC C Compiler.

C is easier than assembly, why not use C?

I assume that your uni use mikroC product and programmer?
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Hi guys,

I'm in need of a Gogo Board in my project.

I get to know tis board thru my friends and online : http://www.gogoboard.org

But I can't find it in electronic stores.

Does anyone know where I can buy the board in kl or selangor?

Plz guide me...thx a lot ^^ tongue.gif
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Anybody done batteries management before?
I'm working on a wireless handheld controller, still looking for suitable battery solution and charger. Would prefer to build my own charger but it's too risky for this project, maybe next one.

Anybody know where can I get suitable battery & charger at reasonable prices? I need at least 7.2v 2000mAh. Those RC hobby shop mostly don't provide any datasheet, don't know how long they'll last.
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Huhu, im making research on fighter robot right now. weight less than 1kilo.

Fully autonomous, and using pic. Any idea on what material should i use for the body? before this im using arcylic, but that for sumo and maze competition. Now robo fight, should be stronger body right?
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Apr 10 2009, 02:01 PM)
Anybody done batteries management before?
I'm working on a wireless handheld controller, still looking for suitable battery solution and charger. Would prefer to build my own charger but it's too risky for this project, maybe next one.

Anybody know where can I get suitable battery & charger at reasonable prices? I need at least 7.2v 2000mAh. Those RC hobby shop mostly don't provide any datasheet, don't know how long they'll last.
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Have you found the answer you are looking for? There are a few types of battery available in the market, the most popular one are namely the Lipo and NiMH. Lipo are more expensive than NiMH, however they are lighter and provide better current output. Retail charger for Lipo are also much more expensive than NiMH. If you are looking for cheaper battery, I suggest you try the typical rechargeable battery (GP, Sanyo, Energizer). You would need 6 cells, 1 NiMH charger, which come to about RM100++.

There aren't any datasheet for battery (I have yet to come across any tongue.gif ) Unless you application is drawing high current, it should do fine. Estimation for rechargable battery duration = (mAh rating) / (mA drawed by circuit).

With 2000mAh battery, it would last you 1 hour for 2000mA circuit, or 2 hours for 1000mA circuit, and etc.

Actually, I am (just started) planning to build my own Lipo charger. Still doing some reading here and there.

Anyway, I am also looking for a suitable high current (10-15A) voltage regulator, from 7.2VDC to 6.0VDC. I have yet to find the right chip, or circuit. Any recommendation? icon_question.gif Anyone? icon_question.gif

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QUOTE(Aurora @ May 8 2009, 11:14 PM)
Have you found the answer you are looking for? There are a few types of battery available in the market, the most popular one are namely the Lipo and NiMH. Lipo are more expensive than NiMH, however they are lighter and provide better current output. Retail charger for Lipo are also much more expensive than NiMH. If you are looking for cheaper battery, I suggest you try the typical rechargeable battery (GP, Sanyo, Energizer). You would need 6 cells, 1 NiMH charger, which come to about RM100++.

There aren't any datasheet for battery (I have yet to come across any tongue.gif ) Unless you application is drawing high current, it should do fine. Estimation for rechargable battery duration = (mAh rating) / (mA drawed by circuit).

With 2000mAh battery, it would last you 1 hour for 2000mA circuit, or 2 hours for 1000mA circuit, and etc.

Actually, I am (just started) planning to build my own Lipo charger. Still doing some reading here and there.

Anyway, I am also looking for a suitable high current (10-15A) voltage regulator, from 7.2VDC to 6.0VDC. I have yet to find the right chip, or circuit. Any recommendation?  icon_question.gif Anyone?  icon_question.gif
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Hehe didn't expect any answer from here..

Anyway I've settled on either Li-ion or NiMH battery, Lithium based preferred after reading Battery University. Lot's of good information about batteries there including battery charging graphs.
I'm getting both the battery and charger from Farnell. I can't really trust those from hobbyist shop, only info I found is they are made for high current discharge, 10C, 20C and upwards, while their lifecycle is only like 30 to 50.
My current requirement is much lower, ~300mA peak, average is probably less than 50mA. Battery needs to last at least 8 hours before recharging and I need to make sure the battery can last for at least 1 year of usage.

I'm not building the charging circuit this time, but from what I gather, accurate voltage sensing, and current control is very important to have maximum battery lifetime. I'm not sure why you need the 10A requirement, but a linear voltage regulator with 10A output will be very large (needs lot of heat sink) and inefficient. Building a switching regulator on the other hand is like a project on it's own already (another project I've always wanted to do biggrin.gif)


Added on May 9, 2009, 12:27 pmOh yeah, you'll need temperature monitoring, and maybe separate cell balancing for a really complete charger biggrin.gif

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Hehe didn't expect any answer from here..

Anyway I've settled on either Li-ion or NiMH battery, Lithium based preferred after reading Battery University. Lot's of good information about batteries there including battery charging graphs.
I'm getting both the battery and charger from Farnell. I can't really trust those from hobbyist shop, only info I found is they are made for high current discharge, 10C, 20C and upwards, while their lifecycle is only like 30 to 50.
My current requirement is much lower, ~300mA peak, average is probably less than 50mA. Battery needs to last at least 8 hours before recharging and I need to make sure the battery can last for at least 1 year of usage.

I'm not building the charging circuit this time, but from what I gather, accurate voltage sensing, and current control is very important to have maximum battery lifetime. I'm not sure why you need the 10A requirement, but a linear voltage regulator with 10A output will be very large (needs lot of heat sink) and inefficient. Building a switching regulator on the other hand is like a project on it's own already (another project I've always wanted to do biggrin.gif)


Added on May 9, 2009, 12:27 pmOh yeah, you'll need temperature monitoring, and maybe separate cell balancing for a really complete charger biggrin.gif
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Where did you get the information that the RC rechargeable liftcycle is 30 to 50? Those are Li-ion/NiMH, shouldn't all their lifecycle standard? Which is 500-1000? Care to share the link? notworthy.gif

I'm trying some linear regulator now, the low dropout type. With that, I'm still throwing some 12W of heat. Not that practical. I need those 10A to drive few motors tongue.gif I found this link High Current Regulator Supply using LM317.

I'm new to electric power, not aware of switching regulator, I'll start looking and see what I can get wink.gif
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Um.. I don't have the link, but I was searching through foreign website that sells R/C stuffs (looking for datasheet or more information), and I recall they mention the current output capability together with the number of cycles (maybe guaranteed to work?).
Well my opinion is, at 10C to 20C, they are draining a 2000mAh battery at 20A to 40A. That kind of usage might perhaps be the reason of the low number of cycles, which means perhaps moderate usage won't have any issue.

The High Current Regulator Supply is only 2 A. Anyway for ~3A, there are some single regulator choices, LM307 or something like that, in TP03 or T03 package (looks like a big metal transistor with 2 legs, the body is ground). The key with linear regulator is heat dissipation, so with adequate heat sinking, maybe can go up to 5A. And another big consideration is the transformer, it'll be huge to be able to supply 10A. Make sure the secondary winding can sustain 10A of current! smile.gif

Switching is dangerous, as it plays with high DC voltage, and requires active control by uC. That means feedback isolation is required.
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Probably right. RC motor draws high Amp. But battery technology is pacing. The battery university link was written few years back. (No wonder I can't find any info on Lipo). Lipo technology has advanced since it was first introduced few years ago.

I have the LM317 (max 1A), and LM338 (max 5A) continuous application. The LM338 is in TO3 form as you described. I have not try it, my circuit is still not ready smile.gif

I plan to use Lipo 7.2 VDC (at least 4000mAh) for my application, and would last me about 20-30 mins. A fully charge Lipo has 8.4V, which drop to 7.2V in 5-10 mins and stabilize. All I need is to stepdown the voltage to 6V for my motors, and another 5V for circuit and control.

Since my supply voltage is considerably low and stable, switching regulator looks pretty promising.

The circuit would draw about 100-200mA only, I'm using LM317 for that. Worst case I'll be using 2x LM338.

You have good link/resource for switching? I reading a few here and there smile.gif
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Oh I thought the 10A is for battery charger, so it's to drive some motors, another project? smile.gif

Hmm.. 8.4v-7.2v to 6v is not much difference. Wait, you sure it goes to 8.4v first? I thought rechargeable batteries output when loaded is pretty much constant, until it's charges fell below certain level, then it dips sharply. I was thinking a simple resistor might be enough. Then again there maybe other things to consider like motor EMF backlash, so using a pass transistor might be better like your high current regulator up there might be a good choice. Reason is, not much voltage drop so low heat dissipation required.

Well I remember I was reading these links some months ago biggrin.gif SMPS and this SMPStech. Switching is nice, because can control the output voltage using a uC biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ May 9 2009, 05:06 PM)
Oh I thought the 10A is for battery charger, so it's to drive some motors, another project? smile.gif

Hmm.. 8.4v-7.2v to 6v is not much difference. Wait, you sure it goes to 8.4v first? I thought rechargeable batteries output when loaded is pretty much constant, until it's charges fell below certain level, then it dips sharply. I was thinking a simple resistor might be enough. Then again there maybe other things to consider like motor EMF backlash, so using a pass transistor might be better like your high current regulator up there might be a good choice. Reason is, not much voltage drop so low heat dissipation required.

Well I remember I was reading these links some months ago biggrin.gif SMPS and this SMPStech. Switching is nice, because can control the output voltage using a uC biggrin.gif
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Typical lipo output voltage during operation is 3.7V per cell. For complete charging, it require 4.2V, and usually a complete charge would give 4.25V. Off the charger, it would generally gives 4.2V. Upon load, it would drop gradually to 3.7V on the first 10% of discharge/usage. Thereafter, it would maintain at 3.7V until it reach 30% before it start dipping.

For NiMH, 1.2V is typical output voltage, while complete charge is usually 1.25V.

I'm using 2 Lipo cells in series, so that is would give typical 7.4V and 8.4V off charger. I have take care of all major motor related issue icon_rolleyes.gif I have consider pass transistor, but isn't that the result same as regulator? A lot of power and heat dissipation?

I'm digging into buck converter and SMPS. I notice that it is normally use for regulating 24V to 12V, mostly more than 50%. My application of 8.4V to 6.0V looks like peanuts only sweat.gif Hopefully it can handle.

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Ah don't take everything I said to be correct, I just fired them off the top of my head tongue.gif

8.4v to 6v sounds very simple until you factor in the 10-15A current requirements sweat.gif
But I think that's where the fun is biggrin.gif And I might need some advice in motor control from you later on smile.gif
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guys,how strong is the motor i need to make a electric go-kart??

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guys,how strong is the motor i need to make a electric go-kart??
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It depends how fast and how powerful you want your go kart to be. For faster acceleration, you'll need a stronger motor. Seems like you will need a motor rated for few hp to be competitive enough. 1 hp = 745.7 watt. You will need motor with rating of several thousand watts. Try ask in go-kart thread (if any hmm.gif )


Added on June 10, 2009, 10:45 pmI have reach the final stage of circuit prototyping, and will be moving on the the next step, which is PCB fabrication. Currently stuck on trace sizing. icon_question.gif icon_question.gif How wide should it be, for a 6v, 6A (typical) and 8A (peak) current? icon_question.gif I googled around, and there are several version. I like to hear from someone who has experience it, if any.

Here's few sneak peek of the electronics:
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The 2nd picture maybe familiar to some RC fan. laugh.gif

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guys..wanna ask..where can I get Solar Panel here in KL/Selangor? A specific shop. Any suggestion? Tq
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How big of a sonal panel? There are shops at Jalan Pasar selling solar panel about the size of a wallet, I saw it last month. Not sure how much it cost. There are also some super big solar panel.
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just a friendly reminder for those tinkering with lipos, make sure your device has a voltage cutoff or something similar to monitor and possibly cutoff your lipo once your pack reaches critical min voltage. You wouldn't want to burn down your home/office/car/friend's house etc etc sweat.gif

similarly, do not continue using damaged lipo packs (those that starts to bulge) and not to keep those damaged in-doors/near combustible items either.
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Good point.. Actually charging is more dangerous than draining. Never leave Lipo charging unattended, while draining from Lipo, not encourage to overdrain. As soon as there is sign that battery is running flat, charge it immediately.

Those ppl is RC forum knows better in Lipo handling, because they use it on expensive equipment! heli and plane bah...
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Reed (magnetic) switch? Is this part commonly available in jalan pasar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reed_switch_(aka).jpg
I need couple of this for replacement.
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Hi,

I need to save my hardisk with a cytron PIC18F4580 learner board wich it have a RS232 port to connect to PC.

I'm just okay in electronic so i need some of you guy's help.

This is the link showing how its done:
http://sites.google.com/site/seagatefix/Home

So what i'm thinking of doing is to plug the TX from HDD to the RX and RX to TX.

So about the program part i'm not sure how to actually tell the PIC to take what it gets and send it to hyperterminal and receive from hyperterminal and send to the HDD.

This is roughly the programming that i can do in C:

#include <p18f4580>
#pragma config OSC=HS
#pragma config WDT=OFF
#pragma config LVP=OFF

void main ()
{
TRISCbits.TRISC6=1; \\output TX
TRISCbits.TRISC7=0; \\input RX these two is the TX and RX of the chip (from book, can i use any port if i wanted to?)

TXSTAbits.TXEN=1;
RCSTAbits.SPEN=1;

RCSTA=0x90; \\enable serial port and receiver
TXSTA=0x20; \\8 bit, low baudrate
SPBRG=7 \\xtal=20M, 38400

while(1)
{

if(PIR1bits.RCIF==0) \\i put this to seperate receiving and transmiting (tell me if its not nesssasary or its wrong)
{
while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0);
PORTBbits.RB6=RCREG;
}

if(PIR1bits.TXIF==0)
{
while(PIR1bits.TXIF==0);
TXREG=PORTBbits.RB7;
}

}
}

Argh its hard to type here when you can't tab!

If there's anything wrong or can be improved pls tell me.

Thanks in advance.


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From the link all you need is a level translator to convert TTL to RS232 signal. You're attempting to use PIC because of some reason or for fun? And even if you use a PIC, you still need a level shifter.

Anyway I think you are trying to use the built-in hardware UART module plus a software UART. The problem is your software UART is non-existence.
Like this piece of code,
while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0);
PORTBbits.RB6=RCREG;


RCREG should contains a full byte of data received from the hardware UART.
You can't just assign them to pin6 of portb like that. You have to send out the individual bits in them one by one, AND watch the timing as you send them out or it'll end up as unreadable junk on the other end.
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Don't you need to set U1BRG register in relation with your oscillator frequency as to get the correct baud rate?

When BRGH = 1 for High baud rate then U1BRG = (Fosc/4 * Buad Rate) - 1
When BRGH = 0 for Low Baud rate then U1BRG = (Fosc/16 * Buad Rate) - 1

Could be wrong. Better check up the datasheet.

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Aug 7 2009, 05:13 PM)
From the link all you need is a level translator to convert TTL to RS232 signal. You're attempting to use PIC because of some reason or for fun? And even if you use a PIC, you still need a level shifter.

Anyway I think you are trying to use the built-in hardware UART module plus a software UART. The problem is your software UART is non-existence.
Like this piece of code,
while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0);
PORTBbits.RB6=RCREG;


RCREG should contains a full byte of data received from the hardware UART.
You can't just assign them to pin6 of portb like that. You have to send out the individual bits in them one by one, AND watch the timing as you send them out or it'll end up as unreadable junk on the other end.
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The reason is i can't get my hands on the converter.

If you have one pls sell it to me.
Or can you lend it to me?
I'll pay for the postage fees for you.
Will definately return it to you.

By level shifter you mean changing the voltage?

the while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0); is to wait until the interupt flag is one. Much like waiting for an input.

Isn't it anything you type in HyperTerminal bput into RCREG?
So in short the program doesn't work does it... T_T


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QUOTE(Cerita Dongeng @ Aug 7 2009, 05:28 PM)
Don't you need to set U1BRG register in relation with your oscillator frequency as to get the correct baud rate?

When BRGH = 1 for High baud rate then U1BRG = (Fosc/4 * Buad Rate) - 1
When BRGH = 0 for Low Baud rate then U1BRG = (Fosc/16 * Buad Rate) - 1

Could be wrong. Better check up the datasheet.
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From what i learnt is we are using SPBRG for the baudrate register (PIC18F4580)

so its SPBRG = (Fosc/(64 * Buad Rate)) - 1

so what i get is 7

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QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 7 2009, 06:46 PM)
The reason is i can't get my hands on the converter.
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RS232-TTL level converter is easy to make. If you don't mind transistors oriented shifter, search google.


Added on August 7, 2009, 7:01 pm
QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 7 2009, 06:46 PM)
The reason is i can't get my hands on the converter.

If you have one pls sell it to me.
Or can you lend it to me?
I'll pay for the postage fees for you.
Will definately return it to you.

By level shifter you mean changing the voltage?

the while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0); is to wait until the interupt flag is one. Much like waiting for an input.

Isn't it anything you type in HyperTerminal bput into RCREG?
So in short the program doesn't work does it... T_T


Added on August 7, 2009, 6:50 pm
From what i learnt is we are using SPBRG for the baudrate register (PIC18F4580)

so its SPBRG = (Fosc/(64 * Buad Rate)) - 1

so what i get is 7
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QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 7 2009, 06:46 PM)
The reason is i can't get my hands on the converter.

If you have one pls sell it to me.
Or can you lend it to me?
I'll pay for the postage fees for you.
Will definately return it to you.

By level shifter you mean changing the voltage?
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Level shifter you can simply grab one from jalan pasar or get from farnell, they are pretty common IC. Search for MAX232. This way takes the least amount of effort.
Or as Cerita Dongeng suggested, you can try building one using transistor or other basic component, this will be ok if you're comfortable with electronics.

Note you need a level translator (also called level shifter) EVEN if you have PIC. The reason is the output from your hdd is TTL (0 to 3.3v/5v) whereas the pc com port is RS232 (usually around +9 to -9v). Connecting +9v or -9v to any pin of your hdd is probably going to kill it.
And take note TTL can mean 3.3v or 5v, and they are mostly but not always interchangeable e.g. if your hdd UART is 3.3v tolerant only and you connect it to your PIC that pumps out 5v, something bad can happen.


QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 7 2009, 06:46 PM)
the while(PIR1bits.RCIF==0); is to wait until the interupt flag is one. Much like waiting for an input.

Isn't it anything you type in HyperTerminal bput into RCREG?
So in short the program doesn't work does it... T_T
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Whatever you type in HyperTerminal get's send out by pc as a string of bits, and the PIC hardware UART detects the start bit, collects all the data bits, pack them into a byte, place them in the RCREG AND set the flag telling you it's received a byte.
PIC only has one hardware UART. Since you need another UART, you need to handle all of these in the software yourself!

And there are other problems with your code. I just highlighted one of the problem because I think writing software UART is not very easy and I don't know if you can handle it or are willing to try, especially since you don't really need it. But if you still want to try a software UART it's up to you.
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I think the intention of the guide is to establish direct communication between hdd and PC only with a TTL-RS232 converter. nod.gif

Anyway, you can connect the tx/rx directly to the hdd, provided you step down the voltage. This can be easily done with simple transistor circuit.

As for the communication between PIC and PC, you can use the circuit in your book, how to connect a MAX232 to your PIC. The circuit is common, you can't go wrong with that. You can get MAX232 chip in jalan pasar.

For starter, I think best if you leave out the hdd first. Try work on the communication between PC and PIC. Connect a few LED to your PIC, and try to send command via hyperterminal. Just relay the bits to the LED. Next try with few push buttons, and test if the PC received the signal from the PIC. One step at a time, it's easier to troubleshoot this way, especially when you are writing the software UART code. wink.gif

To insert your code, used the {code}{/code} (Replace {} with [])

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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 7 2009, 11:42 PM)
I think the intention of the guide is to establish direct communication between hdd and PC only with a TTL-RS232 converter. nod.gif

Anyway, you can connect the tx/rx directly to the hdd, provided you step down the voltage. This can be easily done with simple transistor circuit.

As for the communication between PIC and PC, you can use the circuit in your book, how to connect a MAX232 to your PIC. The circuit is common, you can't go wrong with that. You can get MAX232 chip in jalan pasar.

For starter, I think best if you leave out the hdd first. Try work on the communication between PC and PIC. Connect a few LED to your PIC, and try to send command via hyperterminal. Just relay the bits to the LED. Next try with few push buttons, and test if the PC received the signal from the PIC. One step at a time, it's easier to troubleshoot this way, especially when you are writing the software UART code.  wink.gif
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QUOTE(Cerita Dongeng @ Aug 7 2009, 06:51 PM)
RS232-TTL level converter is easy to make. If you don't mind transistors oriented shifter, search google.


Added on August 7, 2009, 7:01 pm
7 as in Hex (not Dec).
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Dude 7 in Hex= 7 in Dec la


Added on August 12, 2009, 1:04 pm
QUOTE(tgrrr @ Aug 7 2009, 10:06 PM)
Level shifter you can simply grab one from jalan pasar or get from farnell, they are pretty common IC. Search for MAX232. This way takes the least amount of effort.
Or as Cerita Dongeng suggested, you can try building one using transistor or other basic component, this will be ok if you're comfortable with electronics.

Note you need a level translator (also called level shifter) EVEN if you have PIC. The reason is the output from your hdd is TTL (0 to 3.3v/5v) whereas the pc com port is RS232 (usually around +9 to -9v). Connecting +9v or -9v to any pin of your hdd is probably going to kill it.
And take note TTL can mean 3.3v or 5v, and they are mostly but not always interchangeable e.g. if your hdd UART is 3.3v tolerant only and you connect it to your PIC that pumps out 5v, something bad can happen.
Whatever you type in HyperTerminal get's send out by pc as a string of bits, and the PIC hardware UART detects the start bit, collects all the data bits, pack them into a byte, place them in the RCREG AND set the flag telling you it's received a byte.
PIC only has one hardware UART. Since you need another UART, you need to handle all of these in the software yourself!

And there are other problems with your code. I just highlighted one of the problem because I think writing software UART is not very easy and I don't know if you can handle it or are willing to try, especially since you don't really need it. But if you still want to try a software UART it's up to you.
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So that means its easiest to get the converter straight rather than writing a UART prog in PIC?

The problem is i'm from Perlis and its hard to get these kinda stuff....


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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 7 2009, 11:42 PM)
I think the intention of the guide is to establish direct communication between hdd and PC only with a TTL-RS232 converter. nod.gif

Anyway, you can connect the tx/rx directly to the hdd, provided you step down the voltage. This can be easily done with simple transistor circuit.

As for the communication between PIC and PC, you can use the circuit in your book, how to connect a MAX232 to your PIC. The circuit is common, you can't go wrong with that. You can get MAX232 chip in jalan pasar.

For starter, I think best if you leave out the hdd first. Try work on the communication between PC and PIC. Connect a few LED to your PIC, and try to send command via hyperterminal. Just relay the bits to the LED. Next try with few push buttons, and test if the PC received the signal from the PIC. One step at a time, it's easier to troubleshoot this way, especially when you are writing the software UART code.  wink.gif

To insert your code, used the {code}{/code} (Replace {} with [])

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can anyone teach me how to control stepper motor with using parallel port? newbie for electronics ..need for my final year project ...=)

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I would like to make something like a birthday song card, but the birthday song is replaced by the song of my choice.

Does anybody knows where can I get such a programmable IC and how to program it? Besides, I would like a guide on how to make that circuit.

Thank you.
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The problem is i'm from Perlis and its hard to get these kinda stuff....
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 12 2009, 01:06 PM)
can anyone teach me how to control stepper motor with using parallel port? newbie for electronics ..need for my final year project ...=)

thanks
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I think parallel port is all but dead. Why do you want to use parallel port? Do you already have some tools to control the parallel port with?


QUOTE(jiaxun @ Aug 12 2009, 03:40 PM)
Hi,

I would like to make something like a birthday song card, but the birthday song is replaced by the song of my choice.

Does anybody knows where can I get such a programmable IC and how to program it? Besides, I would like a guide on how to make that circuit.

Thank you.
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I don't know if the kind of programmable IC you're looking for exists.
You can make your own simple audio player using micro-controllers like PIC, but you'll need to write the whole program, not just the song you wanted to play.

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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Aug 12 2009, 06:20 PM)
Buy online from Farnell, they'll ship to your doorstep. Pay through maybank cash deposit or maybank2u online.
See here -->Max232 @ Farnell


Added on August 12, 2009, 6:33 pmI think parallel port is all but dead. Why do you want to use parallel port? Do you already have some tools to control the parallel port with?
I don't know if the kind of programmable IC you're looking for exists.
You can make your own simple audio player using micro-controllers like PIC, but you'll need to write the whole program, not just the song you wanted to play.
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my project is using computer to control stepper motor ...via parallel port ...any sample program? ..i wanna make it like door OPEN n CLOSE (slide)
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I don't know if the kind of programmable IC you're looking for exists.
You can make your own simple audio player using micro-controllers like PIC, but you'll need to write the whole program, not just the song you wanted to play.
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It exist, example: http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/
This one can only program for monophonic ringtone.

But I wonder where can I find it in Malaysia. Especially those that can record full song.
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QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 12 2009, 01:02 PM)
So that means its easiest to get the converter straight rather than writing a UART prog in PIC?

The problem is i'm from Perlis and its hard to get these kinda stuff....


Added on August 12, 2009, 1:05 pm

Yeah i'm learning it through LED, sensors and Motors. Last sem we used assembly but now we're learning in C.
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Yup, as the guide suggested, it was meant to connect directly from hdd to com port. Rewriting the entire code is just messy. sweat.gif Since com port can communicate directly via hyperterminal on XP, (which is sweet), just follow the guide and you won't be wrong. The only thing you need to figure out is to either buy the same converter (recommended), or you need to figure out the right chip and circuit. Try to look around for the circuit (check the chip datasheet in used for the said converter, and look for the application note). Try look around Perlis first. Just let me know if you can't find the chip there, I can buy for you, provided it's not urgent. wink.gif (I usually go there once a month to pick up some component for my project)


QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 12 2009, 01:06 PM)
can anyone teach me how to control stepper motor with using parallel port? newbie for electronics ..need for my final year project ...=)

thanks
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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 12 2009, 07:53 PM)
my project is using computer to control stepper motor ...via parallel port ...any sample program? ..i wanna make it like door OPEN n CLOSE (slide)
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Erm, aren't you suppose to do some research first before asking? sweat.gif laugh.gif Since it's FYP, some people are willing to do it for you, at a price of course. brows.gif brows.gif jk laugh.gif

Anyway, which stepper motor are you using? i.e. the rating, spec, etc. I think parallel port is phasing out slowly, not sure if the new motherboard still got or not. I trust that your PC still have it. There are abundance of for communicating using parallel port. Cause we don't know what is your level and application, I think best if you google first, find a nice guide that really suit your need, and try to read first. If you still can't understand, post here and we are glad to help.

QUOTE(jiaxun @ Aug 12 2009, 03:40 PM)
Hi,

I would like to make something like a birthday song card, but the birthday song is replaced by the song of my choice.

Does anybody knows where can I get such a programmable IC and how to program it? Besides, I would like a guide on how to make that circuit.

Thank you.
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Depends on your audio quality, a very simple song (i.e. bepper type, sound quality is like dinosour-age nokia 3310 ringtone) can be produce with just a programmable micro-controller, the smallest and cheapest one is probably around RM10 (check lelong.com.my), not much component require. But the chip is quite big la, you can't really get those small circuit like they sell in bookstore. If you want better quality, like MP3 (i.e. instrument with you singing the song).... sweat.gif That one more expensive, you need to get a MP3 encoder/decoder chip. Even I haven't play with that before. You can try google DIY MP3 circuit. This idea is best if you want to make a customize music box, cause the circuit+battery itself is just no sense to put onto a card... laugh.gif laugh.gif

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i need help...
i want to make a pic program that use PIC16F873...
for tracking maximum power point tracker (MPPT)..
the input is PV (solar)..
so the program should can compare the voltage and current so that
it can delivered the maximum power point..
anybody can help me
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 12 2009, 10:35 PM)
Depends on your audio quality, a very simple song (i.e. bepper type, sound quality is like dinosour-age nokia 3310 ringtone) can be produce with just a programmable micro-controller, the smallest and cheapest one is probably around RM10 (check lelong.com.my), not much component require. But the chip is quite big la, you can't really get those small circuit like they sell in bookstore. If you want better quality, like MP3 (i.e. instrument with you singing the song)....  sweat.gif That one more expensive, you need to get a MP3 encoder/decoder chip. Even I haven't play with that before. You can try google DIY MP3 circuit. This idea is best if you want to make a customize music box, cause the circuit+battery itself is just no sense to put onto a card...  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Yes this is what I'm talking about. I searched lelong but only got 1 type which is 18-pins. I think 8 or 16 pints will be enough?
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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Aug 12 2009, 09:33 PM)
It exist, example: http://www.rev-ed.co.uk/picaxe/
This one can only program for monophonic ringtone.

But I wonder where can I find it in Malaysia. Especially those that can record full song.
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I can't open the picaxe website. But anyway, those are using PIC controllers. You can achieve the same thing by building your own controller board and writing your own code, provided you know how to do that. I've never tried them but the higher end 16-bit PIC has DSP for advance sound processing.

Or are you looking for a finished product? A quick google search shows this -->Some stuff. Looks like something you're looking for but I've no idea on the cost.


Added on August 13, 2009, 11:00 am
QUOTE(epit3036 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:17 AM)
i need help...
i want to make a pic program that use PIC16F873...
for tracking maximum power point tracker (MPPT)..
the input is PV (solar)..
so the program should can compare the voltage and current so that
it can delivered the maximum power point..
anybody can help me
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that really sounds like a FYP.


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QUOTE(jiaxun @ Aug 13 2009, 07:11 AM)
Yes this is what I'm talking about. I searched lelong but only got 1 type which is 18-pins. I think 8 or 16 pints will be enough?
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Oh I didn't know you just want some beeping music. I'm thinking using PIC to generate PWMs at the frequency of music "note" will do the job. Then you just need some driver circuit for the speaker.

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QUOTE(epit3036 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:17 AM)
i need help...
i want to make a pic program that use PIC16F873...
for tracking maximum power point tracker (MPPT)..
the input is PV (solar)..
so the program should can compare the voltage and current so that
it can delivered the maximum power point..
anybody can help me
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QUOTE(epit3036 @ Aug 13 2009, 12:50 PM)
yup.. this is my FYP
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Bro, FYP is meant to work by yourself le.... We can help on trouble-shooting, i.e. share with you which ingredient is the best to prepare the meal, but don't come and ask us to feed you le... shakehead.gif sweat.gif Seriously, I'm also dead lazy to search for the literature on how to do it. laugh.gif Go google, and if you find some link that you can't understand, post here and we will guide you. wink.gif


QUOTE(jiaxun @ Aug 13 2009, 07:11 AM)
Yes this is what I'm talking about. I searched lelong but only got 1 type which is 18-pins. I think 8 or 16 pints will be enough?
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Any pin count will do, you don't need all the pins. But need to check the internal memory. I haven't write a music program file before, my guess is even the smallest size will do. biggrin.gif Like tgrrr said, just engage the PWM, then change the duty factor and you can get your music already. See if I'm free to do a simple demo or not this weekend. biggrin.gif First need to get a beeper/speaker, maybe steal from my PC casing.
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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Aug 13 2009, 10:58 AM)
Oh I didn't know you just want some beeping music. I'm thinking using PIC to generate PWMs at the frequency of music "note" will do the job. Then you just need some driver circuit for the speaker.
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 13 2009, 09:46 PM)
Any pin count will do, you don't need all the pins. But need to check the internal memory. I haven't write a music program file before, my guess is even the smallest size will do.  biggrin.gif Like tgrrr said, just engage the PWM, then change the duty factor and you can get your music already. See if I'm free to do a simple demo or not this weekend.  biggrin.gif First need to get a beeper/speaker, maybe steal from my PC casing.
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Actually, what is/are the difference(s) between IC and PIC

Sorry I am totally not related to this E&E field but only know some basics, hope you guys can help me out on this. Thanks.
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There are types of IC. Many have specialized functions like the Max232 converter or some audio encoder/decoder.
Other are basic building blocks to allow the forming of larger circuitry i.e. logic IC or opamps.

PIC is a brand of microcontrollers which in turn is a type of IC.
Microcontrollers contain a tiny cpu (similar but generally much weaker to the one in a pc), and allows user to program it for a variety of tasks.
Thus you'll need some programming knowledge, and some hardware to 'program' it.


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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Aug 12 2009, 07:53 PM)
my project is using computer to control stepper motor ...via parallel port ...any sample program? ..i wanna make it like door OPEN n CLOSE (slide)
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QUOTE(epit3036 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:17 AM)
i need help...
i want to make a pic program that use PIC16F873...
for tracking maximum power point tracker (MPPT)..
the input is PV (solar)..
so the program should can compare the voltage and current so that
it can delivered the maximum power point..
anybody can help me
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It would be far more helpful if you guys first list out,
1. Your level of skills and experiences in programming and electronics -> e.g. if you've build a 5vdc power supply before...
2. Your project overall design architecture -> simple but concise descriptions with or without diagrams. Schematics and code snippets if you had one.
3. Your project current general status -> what's working, what's not working yet...
4. What you're stuck with -> Give as much details as possible of what you've tried and the results.

This will save us a lot of time figuring out what's your problem and how to help you.
Note we do expect a significant amount of effort and responsibility from your side.

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Hi all,

I'm new to this forum. Seems to me the popular MCU around is PIC and Atmel . I'm doing NXP ARM7 now. Previously involved in Zilog and AMD. Would like to know if there's any ARM buddies there. smile.gif

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Hi all,

Are home-made SMT PCBs feasible and recommended? Experience wise i have managed to make a few simple circuits on through hole PCB. Also, are common surface mount components (resistor/caps/555 timer/common ICs) easily available at Jalan Pasar or anywhere around KL? How much would they differ from the normal components?

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QUOTE(sarcastizer @ Aug 14 2009, 03:44 PM)
Hi all,

I'm new to this forum. Seems to me the popular MCU around is PIC and Atmel . I'm doing NXP ARM7 now. Previously involved in Zilog and AMD. Would like to know if there's any ARM buddies there.  smile.gif
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Hi there,

I think PIC and Atmel are the most popular 8bit MCU worldwide.
Anyway I just started using PIC about 1 year ago when I started doing some freelance jobs and my primary concern then is functionality, availability and pricing which I think PIC did better than Atmel in Malaysia. I've only used the 16F family so far, been wanting to try the 18F family, had couple of those with USB lying around. Now I'm porting my code from assembly to C, using SourceBoost C compiler which seems to be pretty good and surprisingly cheap.

I've no experience or knowledge of ARM. Using ARC600 in my current full-time job but I've really no idea on the different between ARM and ARC. Previous job uses 8051 based MCU and before that in Zilog.


QUOTE(jubz @ Aug 14 2009, 11:10 PM)
Hi all,

Are home-made SMT PCBs feasible and recommended? Experience wise i have managed to make a few simple circuits on through hole PCB. Also, are common surface mount components (resistor/caps/555 timer/common ICs) easily available at Jalan Pasar or anywhere around KL? How much would they differ from the normal components?
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Erm.. what's the reason you wanted to use SMT over through-hole components?
I'm no expert in layout and PCB making, but I think for home-made PCB the minimum track clearance you can create are the main issue, which in turn creates a minimum pcb size you need to make. And making vias for double-sided pcb are very troublesome and unreliable.
Ain't sure about parts availability in Jalan Pasar, but I see from Farnell many SMT are cheaper than their through-hole counterparts.
I'm lazy to build pcb manually too smile.gif
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 12 2009, 10:35 PM)
Yup, as the guide suggested, it was meant to connect directly from hdd to com port. Rewriting the entire code is just messy.  sweat.gif Since com port can communicate directly via hyperterminal on XP, (which is sweet), just follow the guide and you won't be wrong. The only thing you need to figure out is to either buy the same converter (recommended), or you need to figure out the right chip and circuit. Try to look around for the circuit (check the chip datasheet in used for the said converter, and look for the application note). Try look around Perlis first. Just let me know if you can't find the chip there, I can buy for you, provided it's not urgent. wink.gif (I usually go there once a month to pick up some component for my project)
Yup i've been searching for it in here in any sales, all around Perlis and even Penang but still can't find it. Pls give me a pm if you're going and around how much would it cost. Thanks a lot.
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Not familiar with ARM or ARC, not exactly a popular chip for hobbyist. tongue.gif How does it compare with other uC? Maybe will do a little google if had time. smile.gif Sure like to play around with it, if the chip can be purchase over the counter.

QUOTE(jubz @ Aug 14 2009, 11:10 PM)
Hi all,

Are home-made SMT PCBs feasible and recommended? Experience wise i have managed to make a few simple circuits on through hole PCB. Also, are common surface mount components (resistor/caps/555 timer/common ICs) easily available at Jalan Pasar or anywhere around KL? How much would they differ from the normal components?
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QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 16 2009, 10:14 AM)
Yup i've been searching for it in here in any sales, all around Perlis and even Penang but still can't find it. Pls give me a pm if you're going and around how much would it cost. Thanks a lot.
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I haven't make my trip yet since my last post, been quite busy recently. If it is not urgent, I can check out for you. But you need to tell me exactly what chip are you looking for ah... How much is your budget? If it happen to be within your budget, you want me to quick grab for you?
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just want 2 ask..does jalan pasar d only place to get electronics components around kl/selangor area? the more the merrier rite? im a 2nd year student of E&E so better grab some info on where to get parts now cz gonna be doin my project soon
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Aurora, I think ARC is only for custom made IC, they buy the license and embed the ARC core inside their chip together with other stuffs. ARM I'm not sure.

Jalan Pasar is the most popular places in Kl, the whole road there is full of shops selling electric and electronics components.

Penang Island is Hondai (near Sg. Nibong Bus Stations), and Destiny (Near the Bayan Lepas KWSP office).
I know there's a Hondai in Penang Mainland, but ain't sure where is it.
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Aurora, I think ARC is only for custom made IC, they buy the license and embed the ARC core inside their chip together with other stuffs. ARM I'm not sure.

Jalan Pasar is the most popular places in Kl, the whole road there is full of shops selling electric and electronics components.

Penang Island is Hondai (near Sg. Nibong Bus Stations), and Destiny (Near the Bayan Lepas KWSP office).
I know there's a Hondai in Penang Mainland, but ain't sure where is it.
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tongue.gif Thanks for pointing out. I think ARM are quite high end chip, like use in mobile device. Anyway, you have any idea what IC/uC used to read camera module? I saw a cheap camera module in Sparkfun, and seems like 40mHz just barely able to read the camera module. I like to do something like wifi camera. Any suggestion? Maybe will get a cheap 2nd hand handphone with VGA camera, hack and see what they use inside. tongue.gif

e-fatty, nicotyne: I just saw this thread This guy has a lot of components for sale, maybe you can try ask him.
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ARM MCU certainly will be an overkill if used for simple hobbyist project. ARM refers to the architecture layout inside the MCU itself. Various manufacturer are providing ARM microcontroller. NXP,Atmel and Freescale are providing it to name a few. I used ARM7 in my current work. I will be using PIC16F series for my future project.
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Erm.. what's the reason you wanted to use SMT over through-hole components?
I'm no expert in layout and PCB making, but I think for home-made PCB the minimum track clearance you can create are the main issue, which in turn creates a minimum pcb size you need to make. And making vias for double-sided pcb are very troublesome and unreliable.
Ain't sure about parts availability in Jalan Pasar, but I see from Farnell many SMT are cheaper than their through-hole counterparts.
I'm lazy to build pcb manually too smile.gif
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I tried before DIY PCB etching up to 0.012", which turns out to be quite good, but that is for through-hole PCB. 0.010" should be achievable. Like what tgrrr say, aligning the pattern for the via can be a pain, well, unless you make the via thicker, so you have some tolerance in case it slips.
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Am doing some schoolwork, would be interesting if we (me & my group mate) actually manage to make one. Plus we get to learn something additional. tongue.gif For our previous DIY PCBs, we used 0.015". We started with 0.010" but soon learnt that etching the board properly got difficult. Alignment problems were be reduced by concentrating most tracks on one side and using the other side for major tracks (ground,power,etc).

I was thinking if we used SMDs, the area occupied by components reduces and therefore we might be able to go single sided. Do correct me if i'm wrong.. smile.gif
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Hi There, anyone can teach me how to make dc motor spin 2 direction? clockwise and anticlockwise 12vdc motor spin clockwise then spin anti closewise back
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 16 2009, 04:18 PM)
I haven't make my trip yet since my last post, been quite busy recently. If it is not urgent, I can check out for you. But you need to tell me exactly what chip are you looking for ah... How much is your budget? If it happen to be within your budget, you want me to quick grab for you?
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What i want is just any RS232-to-TTL Adapter to comm with my HyperTerminal.

According to some site that thing cost something around 5 dollar.

So Around RM 30 would be okay for me.

Its not that urgent and i'm in the middle of my sem so i don't think i'll be repairing it till hari raya or so cuz got a week for me to do it then.

So pls do buy it for me just when you stop by there.

QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 16 2009, 07:26 PM)
e-fatty, nicotyne: I just saw this thread This guy has a lot of components for sale, maybe you can try ask him.
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Asked the fellow and he don't have it.


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QUOTE(tgrrr @ Aug 16 2009, 05:24 PM)
Aurora, I think ARC is only for custom made IC, they buy the license and embed the ARC core inside their chip together with other stuffs. ARM I'm not sure.

Jalan Pasar is the most popular places in Kl, the whole road there is full of shops selling electric and electronics components.

Penang Island is Hondai (near Sg. Nibong Bus Stations), and Destiny (Near the Bayan Lepas KWSP office).
I know there's a Hondai in Penang Mainland, but ain't sure where is it.
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Hondai? What's Hondai. Sg.Nibong is not in penang island right?

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tongue.gif Thanks for pointing out. I think ARM are quite high end chip, like use in mobile device. Anyway, you have any idea what IC/uC used to read camera module? I saw a cheap camera module in Sparkfun, and seems like 40mHz just barely able to read the camera module. I like to do something like wifi camera. Any suggestion? Maybe will get a cheap 2nd hand handphone with VGA camera, hack and see what they use inside.  tongue.gif
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Err.. never tried anything with video yet. How do you interface to the camera? Some high-speed serial or er.. analog AV signal?
I suppose it depends on how much information you're going to stream through your uC and whether your uC can handle it. Sounds like a lot of work tongue.gif I think you'll need a uC with DMA or multiple DMAs to help with the streaming, and maybe DSP for encoding/decoding. First thing I'd check is how much bandwidth is needed i.e. is 1Mbps transfer rate sufficient for your video quality?


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I was thinking if we used SMDs, the area occupied by components reduces and therefore we might be able to go single sided. Do correct me if i'm wrong.. smile.gif
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Else I'd rather use double-sided, the extra dimension can really makes your life much easier.


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Hi There, anyone can teach me how to make dc motor spin 2 direction? clockwise and anticlockwise 12vdc motor spin clockwise then spin anti closewise back
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I think you need a H-bridge. Try google for it. Aurora probably can assist you in this better than me smile.gif


QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 17 2009, 08:40 PM)
What i want is just any RS232-to-TTL Adapter to comm with my HyperTerminal.

According to some site that thing cost something around 5 dollar.

So Around RM 30 would be okay for me.

Its not that urgent and i'm in the middle of my sem so i don't think i'll be repairing it till hari raya or so cuz got a week for me to do it then.

So pls do buy it for me just when you stop by there.
Asked the fellow and he don't have it.


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Hondai? What's Hondai. Sg.Nibong is not in penang island right?
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You should have a circuitry drawn out first. Then you'll be able to tell what components you need. Like the Max232 usually needs some 1uF eCaps to work. And maybe a couple of pull up resistors to your hdd tx/rx line. Plus a vreg to power your max232.

Er, not the Nibong Tebal or something like that in the southern Pg area. Sg. Nibong Bus Station is the only bus station on Pg. Island.
I know there's a Hondai in mainlang Pg., will try to check with my friend.
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e-fatty: it was mention in the link that hdd Vss is only +3.3v, max232 chip is rated for 4.5-5.5v (typ. 5v). You need to take a look at max3221, and the application note, usually it will show you few circuit example to how to connect the chip.

tgrrr: Honestly, I don't know what I'm looking for. tongue.gif Camera module usually transmit in i2c, with other information available by the reading the rest of the pins. I read the datasheet, seems like need to write down a lot of code if I were to use uC. In case there is already a better solution... like a specific chip or module smile.gif My target is to at least able to read, say 50x50 line out of the entire resolution (VGA or higher). I'm working on a project similar to line-following robot, but can't use the typical close-range IR to scan the line, due to terrain constraint. VGA would worth a try. Let me know if you have other ideas biggrin.gif

fantasy1989: to spin a motor the other way, just reverse the polarity (+ve connect to -ve, and -ve connect to +ve). If you want better control, can try H-bridge circuit. H-bridge has the advantage of speed control and brake. To design H-bridge circuit, first need to know what motor you use, and what is the motor load (what the motor is use for). You can read up in wikipedia to understand the basic of H-bridge. Let us know what the motor is used for, we'll suggest a better way to that. Cheers biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 19 2009, 01:11 AM)
e-fatty: it was mention in the link that hdd Vss is only +3.3v, max232 chip is rated for 4.5-5.5v (typ. 5v). You need to take a look at max3221, and the application note, usually it will show you few circuit example to how to connect the chip.

tgrrr: Honestly, I don't know what I'm looking for. tongue.gif Camera module usually transmit in i2c, with other information available by the reading the rest of the pins. I read the datasheet, seems like need to write down a lot of code if I were to use uC. In case there is already a better solution... like a specific chip or module smile.gif My target is to at least able to read, say 50x50 line out of the entire resolution (VGA or higher). I'm working on a project similar to line-following robot, but can't use the typical close-range IR to scan the line, due to terrain constraint. VGA would worth a try. Let me know if you have other ideas biggrin.gif

fantasy1989: to spin a motor the other way, just reverse the polarity (+ve connect to -ve, and -ve connect to +ve). If you want better control, can try H-bridge circuit. H-bridge has the advantage of speed control and brake. To design H-bridge circuit, first need to know what motor you use, and what is the motor load (what the motor is use for). You can read up in wikipedia to understand the basic of H-bridge. Let us know what the motor is used for, we'll suggest a better way to that. Cheers biggrin.gif
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ok ..thank you for the motor icon_rolleyes.gif


anyone can tell me ...where to find this sensor doh.gif i search some component shop ..tak ada ><! ...this call micro optical sensor right?

and anyone can teach me how to use HB2E relay? newbie on electronic
HB2E-DC5V

thank a lot ><

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ok ..thank you for the motor  icon_rolleyes.gif
anyone can tell me ...where to find this sensor  doh.gif  i search some component shop ..tak ada ><! ...this call micro optical sensor right?

and anyone can teach me how to use HB2E relay? newbie on electronic
HB2E-DC5V

thank a lot ><
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This sensor look kinda expensive, got water-prove somemore, want to install outdoor is it? Maybe you can try Jalan Pasar, try those shop that sell light, alarm. They may not have the specific model, but if you tell them what is your application, usually they can recommend you the alternative. But this only apply for manufactured parts smile.gif

HB2E-DC5V, pin 3 and 14 are your input, give it a 5v supply and the relay will engage.
When engage, pin 8 and 2 will short, (aka connected), and pin 9 and 15 will short also.
When disengage, pin 8 and 1 will short, and pin 9 and 16 will short.
Usually this type of relay are used when you have 3 different circuit that run on different voltage supply. i.e., your switching supply run on 5v, and you need to use it to switch on a 12v circuit (pin 8 and 2, or 1) and another 24v circuit (pin 9 and 15, or 16).
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tgrrr: Honestly, I don't know what I'm looking for. tongue.gif Camera module usually transmit in i2c, with other information available by the reading the rest of the pins. I read the datasheet, seems like need to write down a lot of code if I were to use uC. In case there is already a better solution... like a specific chip or module smile.gif My target is to at least able to read, say 50x50 line out of the entire resolution (VGA or higher). I'm working on a project similar to line-following robot, but can't use the typical close-range IR to scan the line, due to terrain constraint. VGA would worth a try. Let me know if you have other ideas biggrin.gif
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Well 50x50 line x 1 char (assuming 7x11 size char) == 192500 pixels per image. I'm assuming it's a black&white only image.
Multiply by say 15fps, you'll need to stream through 2887500 pixels per second.
The raw data transfer would be ~360kbps which is sufficient for I2C (usually limited @ 400kbps).
With some encoder chip with good compression, maybe you can achieve higher video quality using the same amount of bandwidth, though I'm just purely guessing about this part and your uC need to decode the data.

Now the question is, are you going to do image processing in your uC, or just stream these data out wirelessly?
Processing data @ 360kbps is a lot of work. You'll probably need some hardware support i.e. some DSP engine.
Wireless transfer @ 400kbps is also rather high.
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You should have a circuitry drawn out first. Then you'll be able to tell what components you need. Like the Max232 usually needs some 1uF eCaps to work. And maybe a couple of pull up resistors to your hdd tx/rx line. Plus a vreg to power your max232.

Er, not the Nibong Tebal or something like that in the southern Pg area. Sg. Nibong Bus Station is the only bus station on Pg. Island.
I know there's a Hondai in mainlang Pg., will try to check with my friend.
I don't really know well in building my own circuit.
What I wanted is the whole chip as in the guide or something similar to it that can get the job done.

Well if you know the address of electronic shops in penang pls do tell ne,


QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 19 2009, 01:11 AM)
e-fatty: it was mention in the link that hdd Vss is only +3.3v, max232 chip is rated for 4.5-5.5v (typ. 5v). You need to take a look at max3221, and the application note, usually it will show you few circuit example to how to connect the chip.
Won't the MAX232 work with 3.3V?
Cuz i can get 3.3V from the power supply of my PC.

And according to the guide it doesn't say anything about building any circuit.
isn't it just as simple as get the RS232 to TTL chip and connect all the wires?

Pls explain.
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Does anyone know what kinda chip is / equivalents for MAXIM C78091? Tried googling but I can't seem to find the datasheet for it.
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Aug 20 2009, 08:38 PM)
This sensor look kinda expensive, got water-prove somemore, want to install outdoor is it? Maybe you can try Jalan Pasar, try those shop that sell light, alarm. They may not have the specific model, but if you tell them what is your application, usually they can recommend you the alternative. But this only apply for manufactured parts smile.gif

HB2E-DC5V, pin 3 and 14 are your input, give it a 5v supply and the relay will engage.
When engage, pin 8 and 2 will short, (aka connected), and pin 9 and 15 will short also.
When disengage, pin 8 and 1 will short, and pin 9 and 16 will short.
Usually this type of relay are used when you have 3 different circuit that run on different voltage supply. i.e., your switching supply run on 5v, and you need to use it to switch on a 12v circuit (pin 8 and 2, or 1) and another 24v circuit (pin 9 and 15, or 16).
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i just require one sensor to connect with pc and sent signal to pc ..like door open and close ..just for my project ..any sensor recommend?


thank for the info about relay notworthy.gif
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guys,i hv a sistem elektronik test on monday and i need better notes for me to understand(poli notes is still in malay although they already starting to migrate to english teaching)
i need more info on linear dc power supply process
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QUOTE(e-fatty @ Aug 21 2009, 02:06 PM)
I don't really know well in building my own circuit.
What I wanted is the whole chip as in the guide or something similar to it that can get the job done.

Well if you know the address of electronic shops in penang pls do tell ne,
Won't the MAX232 work with 3.3V?
Cuz i can get 3.3V from the power supply of my PC.

And according to the guide it doesn't say anything about building any circuit.
isn't it just as simple as get the RS232 to TTL chip and connect all the wires?

Pls explain.
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I haven't been there, but I think this is the location of Hondai Butterworth --> Wikimapia - Hondai Butterworth. The Hondai on Pg Island is correct.

There's tons of circuit on the net. Like this one --> MAX232 Serial level converter. And double check with the datasheet!
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can i ask what sensor can link with parallel port? IR sensor can?

any sample?
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What type of IR sensor? For what application?
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What type of IR sensor? For what application?
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ic.. Sensing between one IR transmitter transmitting and one IR receiver. Yup, parallel port should be able to do that.
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ic.. Sensing between one IR transmitter transmitting and one IR receiver. Yup, parallel port should be able to do that.
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Which circuit? The IR sensor or the communication with PC? Frankly, I have neither. laugh.gif it depends on which IR sensor, environment, controller.... Assuming fantasy1989 already had the circuit, I'm just stating the possibility of interfacing it with PC via parallel port. smile.gif


Added on August 31, 2009, 11:00 pmNot it the mood of googling... I'm sure there are tons of example smile.gif

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Which circuit? The IR sensor or the communication with PC? Frankly, I have neither. laugh.gif it depends on which IR sensor, environment, controller.... Assuming fantasy1989 already had the circuit, I'm just stating the possibility of interfacing it with PC via parallel port.  smile.gif


Added on August 31, 2009, 11:00 pmNot it the mood of googling... I'm sure there are tons of example smile.gif
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found few circuit ..but not sure can use or not

can provide some sample diagram? notworthy.gif
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Which infrared sensor you plan to use? Mind to post the datasheet so I can have a look?
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hi guys,

where can i purchase electronics stuff online? had the link last time but lost it. Malaysian site that is.
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What do you mean by Malaysian site?
The easiest and with widest choices for electronics components would be Farnell and RS online. Both has sales and support office in Malaysia.
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hi guys,

where can i purchase electronics stuff online? had the link last time but lost it. Malaysian site that is.
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Man, Farnell .......

I ordered my stuff nearly 10 days ago and it's still not here ... supposed to be 3-5 days according to their website. Gave them a call yesterday and they said it's still being processed =_=;;
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Err you can check farnell online on the status of your order, including whether payment has been received, or item has been shipped, or still in transit from it's global warehouses.

So far my experience is those local stuffs will arrive within 5 days, UK stuffs will be next week if you ordered on Monday, and US will take 2 to 3 weeks.
RS is actually faster for local stuff, arrive in 3 days.
Note all these are business days.

And don't order those items that says 'please call'. Those can take up to 3 months to arrive.
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Err you can check farnell online on the status of your order, including whether payment has been received, or item has been shipped, or still in transit from it's global warehouses.

So far my experience is those local stuffs will arrive within 5 days, UK stuffs will be next week if you ordered on Monday, and US will take 2 to 3 weeks.
RS is actually faster for local stuff, arrive in 3 days.
Note all these are business days.

And don't order those items that says 'please call'. Those can take up to 3 months to arrive.
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Thanks for the advise.

Most of the components i ordered are from SG, a few from UK. And yes, been waiting for around 10 working days. (Mon-Fri + 2 Monday holidays)

I did check my status regularly and it's been tagged as "Received" ... However when i called them yesterday (and earlier today), the operator said that they have no record of my order confirmation. doh.gif Forwarded the order confirmation back to them; gonna call them again later.
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If status is "received", I think they haven't confirmed received your payment, and the working days don't start counting until they have payment confirmation.
To speed things up, I usually email my transaction ref # right after making payment.
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Hurrrrrrrrr finally solved the problem.

Turns out it's their side and they gave me an invalid reference number. The best part ? Correct number is the next one. My order was never processed until i called them up again yesterday.

I had to cancel a few components as they will only arrive the day after my presentation =.=. Had to swap a RM5 IC for a RM20 one for the same reason too. ;_;


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azmax100, check your inbox. I sent you a PM about trading arduino with ICD2 LE. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks. smile.gif
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hey guys....i wanted to ask...where do i find a basic led circuit...i dont need any flashing type or watsoever....just a plain led circuit...got 2 criteria

1. the led must remain lit without blinking or anything else
2. i'm using alot of leds...nearly 100 of em...so is there any way to connect to
a 240v power supply cause i think battery not enough to keep it lit for long ...its something like christmas lights


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Hi gurus, I need help in getting battery. I have a portable memory card reader with an internal battery that is dying. THe dealer that i got it from says they dont import the replacement battery. I am contacting the manufacturer but i highly doubt they will sell it to me personally. So I am trying to source it here in KL.

Product Website: Nexto M1

Picture of the Battery in question attached.

On the website the battery suppose to be: Internal battery : Li-Poly (3.7V, 1550mAh)

Dimension of the battery is 6mm x 40mm (wide) x 60mm (long)

There is no other marking on the battery as to the voltage or capacity which is usually suppose to be there.

Is there any place to get these kind of battery? Jalan Pasar got? Know roughly what is the price? thanks icon_rolleyes.gif



Edit: Figured out that the code PL-654060 is actually the dimensions of 6.5 x 40 x60mm previously i measured with ruler

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1550mAH-Battery-For-...915136003r26115
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wow a really need to hack it if i am going to use that... is that a battery for the nokia E90?
I see some chinese(china) manufacturers making the exact same one as in the picture i attached. I am hoping to get the exact same that looks the same. somehting like this
Li-Poly Battery

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Hi gurus, I need help in getting battery. I have a portable memory card reader with an internal battery that is dying. THe dealer that i got it from says they dont import the replacement battery. I am contacting the manufacturer but i highly doubt they will sell it to me personally. So I am trying to source it here in KL.

Product Website: Nexto M1

Picture of the Battery in question attached.

On the website the battery suppose to be: Internal battery : Li-Poly (3.7V, 1550mAh)

Dimension of the battery is 6mm x 40mm (wide) x 60mm (long)

There is no other marking on the battery as to the voltage or capacity which is usually suppose to be there.

Is there any place to get these kind of battery? Jalan Pasar got? Know roughly what is the price? thanks icon_rolleyes.gif
Edit: Figured out that the code PL-654060 is actually the dimensions of 6.5 x 40 x60mm previously i measured with ruler
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You can use any Lipo battery in the market, provided that it is rated for 3.7v. Lipo single cell voltage is 3.7v, that means there is only a handful of lipo battery with voltage of 3.7v, 7.4v, 11.1v etc, so don't worry if you get an off-spec battery. wink.gif

The mAh is the capacity, the higher the number, the longer it can be put in service and vice-versa. You application probably drain only a few mA, other lipo specification is not important. If you can't find 1550mAh, you can use any rating, it won't affect your device.

So, you can just go to any handphone or camera shop, and show them the battery and say you want the battery which has the exact same size. thumbup.gif

One last thing, all single cell lipo after fully charge is rated at 4.2v, therefore you may find certain lipo battery rated at 4.2v, instead of 3.7v. Don't worry, you can use it. Your device would automatically cut-off the charging when it reach the appropriate voltage.

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You can use any Lipo battery in the market, provided that it is rated for 3.7v. Lipo single cell voltage is 3.7v, that means there is only a handful of lipo battery with voltage of 3.7v, 7.4v, 11.1v etc, so don't worry if you get an off-spec battery.  wink.gif

The mAh is the capacity, the higher the number, the longer it can be put in service and vice-versa. You application probably drain only a few mA, other lipo specification is not important. If you can't find 1550mAh, you can use any rating, it won't affect your device.

So, you can just go to any handphone or camera shop, and show them the battery and say you want the battery which has the exact same size.  thumbup.gif

One last thing, all single cell lipo after fully charge is rated at 4.2v, therefore you may find certain lipo battery rated at 4.2v, instead of 3.7v. Don't worry, you can use it. Your device would automatically cut-off the charging when it reach the appropriate voltage.
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Hi thanks for the reply. I already know the requirements for the battery actually. I am looking for specifically the battery with the wire leads as installed in the unit right now. I also know that a normal handphone or camera shop while they have Li-Poly batteries are not as the one I have posted. Actually I just need to know where I can buy the Li-Poly cells like the one I posted. I will try Jln Pasar this coming week but would appreciate any recommendation to anywhere else which I buy them from. Thanks thumbup.gif

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Last I checked RS online got sell several Li-Ion battery. Not sure about Li-Po.

Or try those Radio Control hobbyist shops. Like this ->RC Battery. Generally RC use larger size battery 7.2v and above, but this shop seems to have a couple of 3.7v choices albeit with smaller current capacity.

Actually I'd advise you to only replace with similar size battery (both voltage and current capacity), and to only get them from reputable sources. I'm somewhat concerned about replacing the battery pack with a smaller or larger unit, as I don't know how your battery charger circuitry works.
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Last I checked RS online got sell several Li-Ion battery. Not sure about Li-Po.

Or try those Radio Control hobbyist shops. Like this ->RC Battery. Generally RC use larger size battery 7.2v and above, but this shop seems to have a couple of 3.7v choices albeit with smaller current capacity.

Actually I'd advise you to only replace with similar size battery (both voltage and current capacity), and to only get them from reputable sources. I'm somewhat concerned about replacing the battery pack with a smaller or larger unit, as I don't know how your battery charger circuitry works.
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Noted with thanks. I am actually limited in space in the casing anyway and from what i have seen Li-Poly capacity are very size dependent. The larger they are the higher the capacity. That said, I have also been reading some datasheets for some IC chips for Li-Ion and Li-Poly recharging they all are charged by monitoring the voltage across the batts. Have not heard any concerns regarding charging rates though. Any thoughts?
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I believe the really good chargers use a combination of timing, voltage and current monitoring, as well as over voltage and over heat protection.

Since your equipment is not a battery charger, it's most probably designed to suit a particular battery capacity only. E.g. it's timer may be hard-coded to charge a 1550mAh battery. In this case, if you try to charge a larger battery it won't ever be fully charged as it would timeout first.

And some "cheaper" product might get away by using very simple solution with very little or no protection. These would be very dangerous to use on a smaller battery.

BUT, these are all just my views only, I'm certainly no expert in battery and charger design sweat.gif
If you're good and careful enough, you'll survive la tongue.gif
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Want to ask, anyone knows if any simple room temperature sensor that connect to PC USB or DB-9 ? Also comes with simple software that interface with it to provide room temperature.

Range: 0-60 Celsius
Incremental in 0.5-1.0 is enough

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Noted with thanks. I am actually limited in space in the casing anyway and from what i have seen Li-Poly capacity are very size dependent. The larger they are the higher the capacity. That said, I have also been reading some datasheets for some IC chips for Li-Ion and Li-Poly recharging they all are charged by monitoring the voltage across the batts. Have not heard any concerns regarding charging rates though. Any thoughts?
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To properly charge a Lipo, it need a built-in charger circuit, which monitor the peak voltage. Charging lipo without proper monitoring is extremely dangerous, it may cause fire and explosion. And because it monitor peak voltage, they automatically cutoff when it reach peak voltage. It's safe to say that you may charge any mAh lipo, provided they have the same voltage rating. Normally the only concern for Lipo charging of the same voltage is its charging ampere. For your device, it should be relatively low, USB support relatively small current. USB devices with battery are normally smart charging circuit, not time-counter circuit. This is due to reason that the design take into account of frequent and inconsistent plug and play of USB device, hence the circuit need to be smart.

I forget to mention that you can get it from any RC store (as tgrrr point out). You can try asking in RC forum. As far I know, lipo can be custom made, rcsmart do offer custom made size and capacity, but with condition of minimum order of 5, I think. Not that I encourage you to customize ur battery laugh.gif, but they have more selection and you can get it from them. Another great site is HobbyKing. HK-base company, relatively cheap courier delivery cost.

QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Oct 1 2009, 06:24 PM)
Want to ask, anyone knows if any simple room temperature sensor that connect to PC USB or DB-9 ? Also comes with simple software that interface with it to provide room temperature.

Range: 0-60 Celsius
Incremental in 0.5-1.0 is enough
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You can try instructables, or try Jalan Pasar, I think I saw a kit or something similar, with LCD, temperature sensor, cooling fan. It's either by cytron or bizchip. With a bit tweak, you can interface with PC via DB-9 (or RS232). If you want a complete solution, I can do it for you, with a small price. laugh.gif

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Want to ask, anyone knows if any simple room temperature sensor that connect to PC USB or DB-9 ? Also comes with simple software that interface with it to provide room temperature.

Range: 0-60 Celsius
Incremental in 0.5-1.0 is enough
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You can do it with PIC or Arduino. Do And learn at the same time.

It's so simple. Using temp sensor connect to analog port. A little bit programming then you have it.

The best part you can be proud of yourself.

BTW you can look at the data from serial monitor if you are using Arduino.

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here is non-technical ques

how many of u are enthusiasts here? rather jz bcoz to develop ur sch/uni projects?
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I'm a bit enthusiasts. Not for uni/school. Is for my own personal project. No monetary/reward/certificate/returns.
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My main job of firmware programming is also related.
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Hobby,enthusiast and try helping others too.

For me this is a challenging hobby where you have to combine your skill and knowledge.

The results?

It may be frustrating sometime but the success story worth more.

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Shall we organise a TT? rclxms.gif
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TT?

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Tools Time.

Tik Tok.


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how u all get inspiration to create a project?

mind to share what projects u all hv done b4?

I start 1st,
1) telerobot with robot arm (the look similar to bomb disposal robot)
2) AGV (same as line following robot)
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TT?

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"Teh Tarik" session biggrin.gif Meaning a social gathering. laugh.gif

QUOTE(yokatasan @ Oct 7 2009, 10:03 PM)
how u all get inspiration to create a project?

mind to share what projects u all hv done b4?

I start 1st,
1) telerobot with robot arm (the look similar to bomb disposal robot)
2) AGV (same as line following robot)
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1) My inspiration mostly come from walking robot..
2) mostly microcontroller-base project. Currently working on legged robot brows.gif

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"Teh Tarik" session biggrin.gif Meaning a social gathering. laugh.gif
1) My inspiration mostly come from walking robot..
2) mostly microcontroller-base project. Currently working on legged robot brows.gif
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bi-pedal robot? hmm.gif goin to develop ur own asimo?hehe
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Bipedal?

Not building but Hack an Isobot using Basic Stamp2 but the Ram is limit to 2K.You can watch the video on my blog.
Not many people doing it yet. I have tried with Pic but theres some issue with the serial protocol.
If many people have same interest we can form an Isobot hackers group.
To make it walk it's a tough pain job doing it alone. For Isobot owner I have to say that to make Isobot is not as easy as you play with it.

Yokatasan any video of your robot?




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I'm working on a multi-leg robot, not biped. Biped has limited room for creative motion, mainly due to stability issue. Commercialize/hobbyist unit is not up to the standard yet (at least not mine tongue.gif).
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QUOTE(azmax100 @ Oct 8 2009, 11:54 AM)
Bipedal?

Not building but Hack an Isobot using Basic Stamp2 but the Ram is limit to 2K.You can watch the video on my blog.
Not many people doing it yet. I have  tried with Pic but theres some issue with the serial protocol.
If many people have same interest we can form an Isobot hackers group.
To make it walk it's a tough pain job doing it alone.  For Isobot owner I have to say that to make Isobot is not as easy as you play with it.

Yokatasan any video of your robot?
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i got the video but not clear n oso i'm lazy to post it in youtube

how much it cost for Isobot? where can buy it?
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i got the video but not clear n oso i'm lazy to post it in youtube

how much it cost for Isobot? where can buy it?
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You can make a Robot but lazy to post the video??????

Hmmm
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You can make a Robot but lazy to post the video??????

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Well to be honest, most of the basic electronic stuffs you're selling are more expensive than I can obtain normally.
Why don't you build the RS232 kit and sell it instead?
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weuwww didnt know this thread exist smile.gif
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gonna continue sometme soon..hopefully smile.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1203190

hey guy check it out......wireless controller via parallel port
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hi, i'm a mechanical student n doin final year project.
due to the lack of electronic background, my supervisor allow me to ask ppl 2 build or buy the electronic circuit.

my project is an x,y,z axis linear movement pick n place.
i will be using stepper motor n i need a driver to control it.
may i noe izzit jalan pasar got ppl help me build n design circuit board for me?
or other eletronic expert willing to help me?

tq
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QUOTE(Devilhpk @ Oct 27 2009, 11:32 AM)
hi, i'm a mechanical student n doin final year project.
due to the lack of electronic background, my supervisor allow me to ask ppl 2 build or buy the electronic circuit.

my project is an x,y,z axis linear movement pick n place.
i will be using stepper motor n i need a driver to control it.
may i noe izzit jalan pasar got ppl help me build n design circuit board for me?
or other eletronic expert willing to help me?
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I've never heard anyone selling a CNC controller being sold at Jln Pasar (Btw, linear movement pick n place should be similar to the CNC system, just different actuator). If there were someone selling, that would be OWESOME drool.gif ...!!!
But there are multiple sites selling CNC controllers. Unfortunately they are not in located in Malaysia. Depending on your budget, I think it might be kinda affordable. MAYBE. I'll reopen my old links and update soon.

[UPDATE]
It seems there are a lot of sites selling DIY CNC machine parts now. Just search for it. Maybe there are someone selling or being the distributor of the controller in Malaysia. Who knows. Btw this is the old link that I was talking about: http://buildyourcnc.com. There was a guy in Malaysia building it and he has a blog up (I think...) but I don't remember and can't find it. Well its up to you though on how you're going to proceed.

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QUOTE(Devilhpk @ Oct 27 2009, 11:32 AM)
hi, i'm a mechanical student n doin final year project.
due to the lack of electronic background, my supervisor allow me to ask ppl 2 build or buy the electronic circuit.

my project is an x,y,z axis linear movement pick n place.
i will be using stepper motor n i need a driver to control it.
may i noe izzit jalan pasar got ppl help me build n design circuit board for me?
or other eletronic expert willing to help me?

tq
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Jalan Pasar sell items only, never heard of them provide any design service.
What's your budget and timeline?
A motor driver is kinda vague. We need to know the input and output. What about motor power ratings?
And no mentioned of controlling software, I assume that's outside of this job scope.
I think this is right up Aurora's alley. PM him and see if he's interested.
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sry for not putting the clear description about my project.
i really stupid come 2 electronic, that'y i choose mechanical XD

elm383:
yah, i copied the concept of CNC into my project. i wanted 2 buy the driver, but most of them is oversea so the price will be expensive. Since most of them is applicable for powerful stepper motor. Mine is little project only.
my supervisor advised us that the best will be order within malaysia or ask expert 2 help wor.

tgrr:
i heard from my friends that some shop in jalan pasar got help ppl 2 build circuit after noted down our needs. We just explained wat we want n them will settle the board for us. We just need 2 pay only.
My budget for driver depends on all in 1 or modular lo. The best not exceed rm300-400.
for ur info, i will controlling using vb.net by sending pwm signal.
since vb.net got more simple language n interfacing (GUI) for newbie like me 2 use. The motor will be >5v (cytron) depending on budget also.

i founded a website http://pminmo.com/ that got free source circuit. Now i wondering either Tachus42 3 Aixs Board (all in 1) suitable for me?

tq for the help.

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Can't tell without seeing your motor specification if it matches with the 3axis board. I don't want to assume all stepper motor works the same way.

Why would you need PWM?
The 3axis board input signal comes from parallel port. You have the right code/software to output PWM through parallel port?
See here on the basics of driving stepper motors->Stepper motors drivers

5v is just the voltage. The motor draws how much current? You do have a power supply that is sufficient enough to drive all your motors right?
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i will consider mainly unipolar stepper motor since many people say it more easy 2 control. In other hand, i noe bipolar got better holding torque which is important for my z-axis (a bit heavy).

from my research, I need 2 use PWM signal rather that input signal from parallel port becoz i need 2 hold some position like (z-axis) when picking items. If use input signal from parallel port, izzit it only for on n off mechanism? it will slide down, i guesss.
correct me if i'm wrong.

hope 2 heard ur advice again.

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For CNC-base design, have you already figure out the mechanism to transfer the rotation motion to linear motion? CNC machine normally use wormgear and rack, has high torque output, but at the expense of low speed. And depends on your load, you maybe able to use Tachus42 3 Axis Board, with some modification on the IC to suit your motor.

pminmo has several link to free software. These software has already pre-scripted communicate protocol with the board via parallel port. If you want to write your own program, maybe you need to get it from the author how the protocol works, or maybe reverse engineer yourself. tongue.gif

We (myself and tgrrr) are actually looking for small project for pasttime and some side income. Depends on your requirement, urgency, and to what extend, we could help you, at a reasonable price. laugh.gif
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tgrrr:
i will consider mainly unipolar stepper motor since many people say it more easy 2 control. In other hand, i noe bipolar got better holding torque which is important for my z-axis (a bit heavy).

from my research, I need 2 use PWM signal rather that input signal from parallel port becoz i need 2 hold some position like (z-axis) when picking items. If use input signal from parallel port, izzit it only for on n off mechanism? it will slide down, i guesss.
correct me if i'm wrong.

hope 2 heard ur advice again.
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That's what I don't get. PWM is a series of pulse sent at a fixed frequency. What's being changed is the duty cycle of the pulse.
This is what I used to control my servos long time ago.
Stepper motor on the other hand runs on steps. Give it the right signal, it should take one step forward or backward. If you don't change the signal, it should hold still and not move. As long as power is applied, it shouldn't move.

Perhaps what you're talking in regards to PWM is there's another controller board that translate the PWM signal to the necessary driving signals. In this case, it'll will be more complex than the 3axis board, and I think may not be necessary for you.

I think we should get your project outline straight. Since this is your fyp, which area is your actual focus, and which area is allowed by your lecturer to be outsourced? Then we can suggest the best method for you to move forward.

Since I'm in Penang, i can only assist in giving suggestions so if you're looking for more hands-on assistance, Aurora is your best choice. I think based on your budget, you can only do handmade board or simply go for stripboard. If you're really interested in our service, we should discuss further in PMs or personal emails only.
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tq for all the info.
then i try seek help aurora since he is more nearer.


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hey can anybody share some information regarding pickit2 here? thx
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hey can anybody share some information regarding pickit2 here? thx
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i would like to know the price and is it hard to use?
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There are 2 or 3 different Pickit2 starter kits, some development kits also comes with Pickit2.
Price for starter kit is upwards of RM200 last I checked.
Starter kits comes with basic hardware (some LEDs, buttons) for basic testing usage.
Development kits are more advanced (LCD, I2C, prototyping area, etc...), and some has specific functions e.g. USB.

Ease of use is a very subjective question though I'd say for most people with engineering background, it's easy to use.
The question is, when you hook it up to a new piece of hardware and nothing works, is the issue with the Pickit2 or the hardware?
If you're concerned or a beginner to electronics/firmware, I'd advise to take a Pickit2 with a suitable hardware. This way you'll always have a stable working hardware to test with.
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thanks for the information.
if i have further question i will post it here
thanks again

er normal hardware shops got sell the pickit2?

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I'd suggest get them from Farnell or RS online.
Most electronic component shops (selling resistors, capacitors, etc...) doesn't carry much (if any) choices.
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I have a question and hope some forumer can help to provide some suggestion...

I'm a noob in Electronics with science background (SPM & STPM), and currently working. I'm interested to pick up Electronics, but not sure how.
And I've tried to find some books, but most of the book talk about theory only with zero practical rclxub.gif

Can anybody suggest a book that is meant for noob people with workable practical guide? icon_question.gif
It would be best if the book comes with the electronic devices.

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Haha you're right, most electronics books only talk about theories. Almost like they are copied from each others.
The biggest problems are,
1. They are heavily focused on the calculations, as if getting correct values up to several decimal points is worth a lot of marks.
2. They give no consideration at all to the selection of components, as if in real life you can get any size resistors you wanted.
3. They often drop standard parameters/information considered to be general knowledge and not related to the calculations, as if students are already expert in electronics.

I've read one book that does it IMO the "right" way, but I've forgotten the title and author. Borrowed it from my ex-boss. It gives practical examples right from the start completes with components part #, values and alternative choices in case they are not available locally. Also, it gives very practical method of selecting component values, instead of using lots of theories and formulas. Maybe someone knows the title, would love to buy it for past time reading.
Haven't seen any books that comes with electronic components though. Why don't you just find some projects online and follow them?


p.s. I learned 90% of my electronics knowledge AFTER I graduated, so imagine the time wasted in university trying to make sense of all those theories and useless non-practical calculations doh.gif
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i need some help for my project ==

how i have a sensor which ON = 1.6v OFF = 1.3V

i want link to parallel port(status register) ..got any idea?

thanks in advance
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anyone can suggest how I can use external power to increase the loudness of a speaker? nod.gif


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It depends how fast and how powerful you want your go kart to be. For faster acceleration, you'll need a stronger motor. Seems like you will need a motor rated for few hp to be competitive enough. 1 hp = 745.7 watt. You will need motor with rating of several thousand watts. Try ask in go-kart thread (if any hmm.gif )


Added on June 10, 2009, 10:45 pmI have reach the final stage of circuit prototyping, and will be moving on the the next step, which is PCB fabrication. Currently stuck on trace sizing.  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif How wide should it be, for a 6v, 6A (typical) and 8A (peak) current? icon_question.gif  I googled around, and there are several version. I like to hear from someone who has experience it, if any.

Here's few sneak peek of the electronics:
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The 2nd picture maybe familiar to some RC fan.  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif still wondering what should i do wit hthe fan motor lying around

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fantasy1989: parallel port respond on +5v. For your case, if your switching is slow and time critical, you can use a transistor circuit, or op-amp circuit. If it is time-critical, then you need to get those TTL chip. Be careful when playing with parallel port, if you apply the wrong voltage or current, it may smoke your motherboard!

rokiroad: I found the solution already, in fact had my PCB board done. wink.gif Speaker amplification, try this. Do look up for LM386 datasheet and application note for more info.
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fantasy1989: parallel port respond on +5v. For your case, if your switching is slow and time critical, you can use a transistor circuit, or op-amp circuit. If it is time-critical, then you need to get those TTL chip. Be careful when playing with parallel port, if you apply the wrong voltage or current, it may smoke your motherboard!

rokiroad: I found the solution already, in fact had my PCB board done. wink.gif Speaker amplification, try this. Do look up for LM386 datasheet and application note for more info.
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yeahhh!! dude! biggrin.gif lets discuss more ....hermmm anyone has suggestions what to discuss to bring up the interest? biggrin.gif the field is just too wide !! biggrin.gif
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well.. i am new.. but there is a assembly language tuition thing for programming micro-controllers. Its mainly for students who are doing they final year projects. Many students spend lots of money for their final year project just to get good result but are they spending as much as they should be?
Learning how to program a micro-controller the right way cutS ur costs down alot.

The most common question is " Any ides for FYP?" , "what should i do for my fyp?".

The question is actually "What CAN U DO?"...

Just type "Assembly Learning Program" on facebook and search it. It is a group which has just been newly formed.
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hi guys, anyone knows where i can source 1/3AAA rechargeable batteries?

found some on ebay, but usd20 shipping for usd1.50 battery is redonkulous!

i've already chked out the links on the first page of this thread, but all i found were 1/3AA.
any ideas?

thanks in advance!
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Hi all, i found a cool website...
http://www.mylab.tk
u can use this website to search for engineering projects and electronic circuits diagrams on the internet
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You can try the imitation by cytron. Look up UIC00A. You can buy it retail at Nixie; just off Jalan Pasar at Jalan Landak (right in front of Pudu Plaza).
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Can try Arduino... easier to program using C and cheaper tooo.....lot's of project on the net..Just google.


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Folks, i'm looking to dabble with microcontrollers, not for a school project or anything, just for the heck of it..

So I would really appreciate if someone could point to which mc should i start with (part number etc), the programmer to use and where to get them (cost?). Seen quite a few mc/programmers on sale at Jln Pasar so it's quite intimidating for newbie like me to decide and choose (PIC/Atmel/etc?)

I'm pretty OK with electronic and coding so i'm not really starting from scratch, just zero experience in the mc department :|

Any kind of lead will be great smile.gif
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Hi Chein, what kind of project you have in mind? I'm using PIC (aka microchip product) because there are plenty of guidelines, code examples in books and www. Some of the most used and cheapest uC is PIC16F84A and PIC16F877A.

Atmel has a slightly different architecture, and able to execute more instructions per second. But to me, it's just the same. There are plenty of guides for Atmel as well. The most used Atmega16, 32 and 168.

Atmel has slightly better advantage in terms of coding. It come with a free C compiler. While Microchip free C compiler has some limitation, otherwise user need to purchase the unrestricted C compiler. Otherwise, if you are familiar with assembly code, both also support it.

Arduino (based on Atmel uC) is getting more attention recently, because it provide a simple board that allow user to connect to their PC, program it (in C), and execute the code. Very good for beginner.
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QUOTE(Aurora @ Jan 17 2010, 03:58 AM)
Hi Chein, what kind of project you have in mind? I'm using PIC (aka microchip product) because there are plenty of guidelines, code examples in books and www. Some of the most used and cheapest uC is PIC16F84A and PIC16F877A.

Atmel has a slightly different architecture, and able to execute more instructions per second. But to me, it's just the same. There are plenty of guides for Atmel as well. The most used Atmega16, 32 and 168.

Atmel has slightly better advantage in terms of coding. It come with a free C compiler. While Microchip free C compiler has some limitation, otherwise user need to purchase the unrestricted C compiler. Otherwise, if you are familiar with assembly code, both also support it.

Arduino (based on Atmel uC) is getting more attention recently, because it provide a simple board that allow user to connect to their PC, program it (in C), and execute the code. Very good for beginner.
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I have no particular project in mind, just planning to do some F&T (fiddle and tinker) smile.gif

Let say I'm looking for something that can be programmed from a PC, would Arduino be my best choice? Correct me if I'm wrong but don't think I can easily get it at Jln Pasar can I?

And if i'm not mistaken also, isn't both PIC and Atmel also must be plugged onto a programmer board that connect to a PC (via USB/serial port) in order to be programmed? Think i've seen those on sale at Jln Pasar

Honestly, i'm hoping of making purchases when i get my next paycheck. So im trying to come up with a shopping list smile.gif
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Arduino is a complete solution. It comes with an Atmel uC sitting on a prototype board with a lot of pin out, and a usb connection to PC. So just plug into the USB, run the compiler, write your code, program it. The limitation on Arduino is that it pretty much seal the type of Atmel uC, so you get only that amount of pin, functions, and program space and RAM.

Then connect the pinout on the board to LED, siren, sensor etc. I think you can check with Azman, he hang around this thread earlier.

For Microchip, get those ICP (In-Circuit Programmer) type. it's program via 2-pin only, and standard power and ground connection. I'm using it and it's very easy. smile.gif But the programmer is quite expensive la. Cheapest around RM200. Or you can get those local assembly third party programmer, I think it cost around RM100, with smaller number of supported uC.

For Atmel, I haven't seen their programmer in Malaysia.

I think Arduino is best for starter, Microchip and Arduino is more suitable if you have plan to move on to intermediate and advance level.
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Hi guys. I'm kinda new here. I wanna ask some opinion from you guys. Can you guys suggest me a project that use PIC microcontroller as the main component. I have no Idea what to do.
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The most basic project you can do is LED related project, like trying variety of blink, dimming, etc. Most books, sites will recommend LED blink project.
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I have found some idea.

I'm thinking bout make a Automatic Fan Controller. This project using heat @ temp sensor, PIC, Led and a fan(motor). When the temp rise, the fan spins fast and when the temp is low, the fan spins slow. The LED represents as the indicator of the range of temp and fan speed. But the problem now is, how to control the fan speed. What component I should use. Someone says that I can use relay to control it, is it true? can you guys give me some example function of relays...
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... But the problem now is, how to control the fan speed. What component I should use. Someone says that I can use relay to control it, is it true? can you guys give me some example function of relays...
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Depends on what fan you have in mind. DC or AC? If it is a DC fan with voltage up to 24V, you can use a BJT or MOSFET transistor. If you are using 240VAC fan, you might try using a TRIAC. Although, using a relay would be a safer bet. But if relay can be used to speed control, you can only do speed increment in steps. Something like the speed buttons on your AC fan. I have not gone into controlling speed using relays before. But since the AC fan uses switches to control the speed, most probably you can reverse engineer how the AC fan does it. Hope this helps a bit.
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QUOTE(elm383 @ Feb 1 2010, 12:15 AM)
Depends on what fan you have in mind. DC or AC? If it is a DC fan with voltage up to 24V, you can use a BJT or MOSFET transistor. If you are using 240VAC fan, you might  try using a TRIAC. Although, using a relay would be a safer bet. But if relay can be used to speed control, you can only do speed increment in steps. Something like the speed buttons on your AC fan. I have not gone into controlling speed using relays before. But since the AC fan uses switches to control the speed, most probably you can reverse engineer how the AC fan does it.  Hope this helps a bit.
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Thanks alot. This project is just a prototype ver. Maybe I only using a simple DC fan.....
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hi, anyone willing to do 1 mini project for me? willing to pay for a reasonable amount of money.

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hey guys..

does anyone know where i can get wireless sensor nodes/sensor gateways offline or online in Malaysia? anyone got contacts? Most distributors are in US.. trying to look for those in SEA region or China..
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anyone know where i can find the charger for 12V 7AHr battery in penang island?
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Where got sell Irwin wire stripper ??
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hello anyone here can assemble this electronic curcuit..... willing to pay here..help plzz..

i will provide the programming...

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Didn't know about this tread till now... brows.gif have been dabbling with DIY electronics since 15...


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hello anyone here can assemble this electronic curcuit..... willing to pay here..help plzz..

i will provide the programming...
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@bilaman Where you live? I can help for a price... brows.gif.. bought form cytron? pm me plz...

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Hi..

anyone know where can i get a solder mask (green) for pcb board in malaysia. (for small scale use, bout 1 litre?)
I ask this for my dad.. i know nothing bout electronics:p
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The best place to look for is Jalan Pasar, KL. I think most DIY user don't mask their PCB board. I know I don't. tongue.gif
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hi,want to share my experience
long time ago i in secondary technical school, had build 1 machine to clean floor from dust and wipe .for the day of competition my machine do the best for 5 minute first.then after that it make some spark from DC 12v motor then blow up...very panic.

maybe this first time to get experience,i use RX &TX 7channel to control that machine..and electronic servo to make movement for it,almost equipment get from RC and i inspirated it to my machine.

next post will share with all of you my machine pic..



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Why no people answer my questions ??
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ May 15 2010, 02:46 PM)
Where got sell Irwin wire stripper ??
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Why no people answer my questions ??
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Those are industrial wire stripper. You can find a lot of those from different manufacturer. For electronic goodies, check Jalan Pasar, KL. Or check out ace hardware.

For cheaper unbranded stuff, you can check your local hardware shop, those big one. They might carry few.

I use this, made in china, serve me very well so far.

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Which brand is the best ??? I looking for automatic wire stripper
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Can anyone direct me where to get a synchronous buck controller?
Converts input 12VDC to output 3.3VDC

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Erm, I'm not familiar with any brand though. But all are pretty standard. You can spot the quality almost immediately when you held it.

Buck controller can get at the famous Jalan Pasar, KL....!!!!
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hi guys,I need help with the components here
http://www.redcircuits.com/Page31.htm

do I really need to get these specific transistor?
Q1____________BC239C 25V 100mA NPN High-gain Low-noise Transistor
Q2____________BC337 45V 800mA NPN Transistor
Q3____________BC327 45V 800mA PNP Transistor

I think I got quite a few from secondary school days which I think is the c945 and c9013...can they be used?
(I'll chck whether their NPN or PNP later xD..)

there are BT66T too tongue.gif lololol


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Erm, I'm not familiar with any brand though. But all are pretty standard. You can spot the quality almost immediately when you held it.

Buck controller can get at the famous Jalan Pasar, KL....!!!!
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thank u. Just want to be sure
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hi,

Arduino tutorial video Part 1.....enjoy!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


Arduino Tutorial Part 1




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Got which online shop selling it ?
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Arduino Video Tutorial Part 2


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Which shop got sell Fluke more cheaper ??
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anyone using voice chips?

I'm facing some problem with the Winbond ISD4003
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You can try CETM Electrotest Sdn Bhd. They r Fluke distributor n offer good discount. www.cetm.com.my
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Finally theres a forum for Arduino users in Malaysia

Arduino Malaysia Forum
http://forum.myduino.com

All are vwelcome.
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QUOTE(TOROBO @ May 31 2010, 08:01 PM)
hi guys,I need help with the components here
http://www.redcircuits.com/Page31.htm

do I really need to get these specific transistor?
Q1____________BC239C  25V 100mA NPN High-gain Low-noise Transistor
Q2____________BC337  45V 800mA NPN Transistor
Q3____________BC327  45V 800mA PNP Transistor

I think I got quite a few from secondary school days which I think is the c945 and c9013...can they be used?
(I'll chck whether their NPN or PNP later xD..)

there are BT66T too tongue.gif lololol
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you could substitute them with equivalent part, just make sure the power and voltage rating are sufficient. For the BC239C i'm not sure though, better check the datasheet.
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I found this Arduino a very interesting microcontroller board especially for non-electronics students and electronics professionals... ( I totally hated those complex electronics formulas ).

Read thru a few of the e-books on Arduino and it is very suitable for programmers ( those with basic C programming ) and want to interface with the real world .. using the power of software programming and hardware interfaces to do "human - machine interactions"...

Where can I purchase an Arduino board here in Malaysia or Klang Valley ?

Pls PM me...

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just wanted to do an inquiry and get guidance from you!i am trying to write up a proposal for my FYP topic."RFID basedAsset Monitoring"..however i would like to build a reader operating at 13.56Mhz but with a reading range of 1m at the very least,from my research so far i have seen tht most readers at this range have close proximity reading range at tht frequency..I think i would have to build an antenna that would increase the range of my reading circuit..my part is mainly hardware of the project(programming microcontroller for the reader circuit and building it) and my partner will do the software part i.e databse part,,is this possible in your view and would it make a good final year project? project time is 6 months.. months...thanx
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just wanted to do an inquiry and get guidance from you!i am trying to write up a proposal for my FYP topic."RFID basedAsset Monitoring"..however i would like to build a reader operating at 13.56Mhz but with a reading range of 1m at the very least,from my research so far  i have seen tht most readers at this range have close proximity reading range at tht frequency..I think i would have to build an antenna that would increase the range of my reading circuit..my part is mainly hardware of the project(programming microcontroller for the reader circuit and building it) and my partner will do the software part i.e databse part,,is this possible in your view and would it make a good final year project? project time is 6 months.. months...thanx
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Hi,
1. Is your RFID tag passive or active type? Passive meaning no internal power source. Passive usually only works in very short range.
2. I've worked with 27Mhz solutions in the past. 1.5meters is achievable, 3meters is about the limit, BUT this needs antenna design expertise and impedance match fine tuning. Will be very difficult for amateurs. I suggest you find ready made solutions, trying to design your own antenna will probably kill you.
3. Depending on the RF solution you have, you may have to write everything yourself, i.e. the RF MAC layer. That by itself should be enough for undergraduate FYP project.
4. I think your partner job is too easy compared to yours.
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Hi,
1. Is your RFID tag passive or active type? Passive meaning no internal power source. Passive usually only works in very short range.
2. I've worked with 27Mhz solutions in the past. 1.5meters is achievable, 3meters is about the limit, BUT this needs antenna design expertise and impedance match fine tuning. Will be very difficult for amateurs. I suggest you find ready made solutions, trying to design your own antenna will probably kill you.
3. Depending on the RF solution you have, you may have to write everything yourself, i.e. the RF MAC layer. That by itself should be enough for undergraduate FYP project.
4. I think your partner job is too easy compared to yours.
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Thnx tgrr,,really appreciate your advice.Well since i am using HF(13.56Mhz),the tag to be read is passive.However,i thinking of buying a reader module for HF and then my job will be to building an anetenna for it that can read to at least 1metre and interfacing the module with a PIC,..is this more feasible?
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post Aug 30 2010, 12:10 PM

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You're saying for e.g. the RF reader module is design to work with 10cm range, and you wanna design your own antenna to make it 1meter?
I should think there's a practical limit to how much gain a passive antenna can get. There IS a formula for RF propagation distance. You SHOULD do the theoretical calculations first to determine how much antenna gain is needed.

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