General Talks on bicycles. Feel free to ask and share your cycling experience.Any routes, upgrades or any news that you have might be valueble to us! Also share the pictures of your bicycles!

reporting in new thread =) btw, anybody knows where can i find seasucker bike rack??

goodmorning! i wish i can ride my bike to work but sadly too many constraints.

First thread should put on some sexy photos to lure people in ma.. lol my cousin say he will never touch bicycle seeing how broke am I since started it..

you do have to remember that detonators and GP4000's are in a totally different category... while detonators are training tyres... GP4000's are race rubbers...

training rubber will focus more on durability and long term reliability while race tires might forgo those factors in favor of weight savings...

maxxis does have race tyres which starts with columbiere and then xenith and i think another 2 models depending on whether you want slicks or threaded ones...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 10:11 amIt is a bit weird. 4000s come default with black chilli and slightly lower weight than 4000s (-10gr).

And 4000 has also black chilli on their foldable black version but is heavier by 10gr... logic tells me 4000s is not much of a sensible choice for spending extra RM30....furthermore, both has the same thread design, 3 plies, 330tpi case, and their own puncture protection...

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/...ckchili_en.html

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 10:13 AM

what's the differences between race tyre and training one? actually I am changing the tire to prepare for my kenyir triathlon

From what I understand so far, the race tires are supposed to be very lightweight with good grips, but you sacrifice on durability. The training tires are supposed to last longer.

training tyres are built to last long miles sacrificing light weight and maybe certain ride qualities...

race tyres are built to maximize efficiency (reduce rolling resistance, more cornering grip, etc) and concentrates on reducing rotating mass...

usually, if budget persists... a 2nd set of race tubular wheels would be the best option... with the advent of road tubeless... it is becoming a intermediate between clincher and tubulars... and with systems like Fulcrum 2 way fits... you can opt between tubeless and clincher tyres without owning another set of wheels...

stan's won't be cheap though if you go down road tubeless route...

PORN!! PORN!!! PORN!!!!

here comes pr@wn...

single


a group...


more tasty group...


saucy ones...


you want 3 prawns... i gave you 4...

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 10:56 AM

how's this one?

Please stop with the prawns....making me toooo hungry....

Now how am I supposed to lose 2nd to compete with my friends pinarello weight difference?

Congrats on v2 by the way!

I realise when I go uphill I hate every inch of my fat around my belly.. time to loose them

p@wned...

technically.. i think that is a lobster...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 11:18 amit is suppose to make you desire and crave for them more... so, this demonstrates that it is working..

you should blame it on the idiot for asked for prawns... as they say... don't order what you can't stomach...

there is this thing called liposuction you know... fastest way to lose it... along with your $$$

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 11:18 AM

time for some real ones...

madfibre wheels...


fully carbon constructed...




how it looks on a bike...



specs, 12 spoke front, 18 spoke rear, 60mm rim height front 66mm rear, sub 1300 grams, white industries hub internals i heard...

http://www.madfiber.com/clincher-ceramic-r...s-article?tcc=1

a light description of how they made the wheels...
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/mad-...rst-look-26205/

think Treknology has it... but a price of above RM10k scares most away...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 12:23 pmmy personal favourites...

Paired spokes Rolf Prima wheels...

the carbon Ares 4


alloy Vigor


and the super crazy lacking of spokes wheels.. the tt85...



unfortunately, not available here.

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 12:23 PM

BUY BUY BUY~~~~

$ $ $

i'm so happened to visit Samy bike shop @ Batu Caves on Sat.

Cateye 5 LED lights selling for RMXX. is it okay to disclose the price?



btw, the 1 i saw is white color cover compared to black cover at bottom as shown in cateye website.

Just our of curiosity, does the normal brake pad work seamless on these wheels?

Samy's stuff usually is cheaper compare KL area

5 LED got 2 models:

LD-610



LD-650


From cateye website only LD-610 got a white color color as you mentioned.

LD-650 adds two more side mounted LEDs for maximum visibility from all directions, compared to LD-610 with all 5 LED facing same direction.

I just realised my my saddle bag cannot mount the rear LED lights.. and when i try to mount below the saddle bag it feels like the light is not really visible..

yes. LD-610 is the 1 that i saw! Thanks!

too bad Samy shop dont have LD-650.

you do have to run carbon specific pads on carbon brake tracks.. zipp makes some cork pads which are quite good... or swiss stop yellow series... or you end up with a grabby set of brakes or you suffer issues with pads fading...

there are pads that work both types of brake tracks, think the swiss stop is one of 'em...but it is never advised to swap wheels without swapping pads as metal debris can get lodged in the pads and accelerate the wear on the carbon wheels...

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 03:07 PM

You may opt for blinker and get it tied on your seat stay. I have seen some riders having few on the seat stay

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Added on February 27, 2012, 3:15 pmthanks for the clarification butthead

This post has been edited by littlebeettle: Feb 27 2012, 03:15 PM

lyn cycling club without tongyam is failed to the max.

Kthxbye!

tongyam???? apa tu???

most models have brackets to mount it to post or seat stay.. shouldn't be an issue... jus make sure it doesn't fly into spokes or catastrophe...

for me, i clip onto jersey rear pocket...

what's tongyam... can eat wan ah...

anyways, tak paham the intention of your post... you must be

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Added on February 27, 2012, 3:32 pmmust be tomyam's little bradder....

goes damn well with our prawn earlier... make the soup sweet... and we got 4 prawns somemore and a motobike prawn...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 3:33 pmhungwy any1?

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 03:33 PM

This concept is not new U know... years back all the craze was about Spinergy wheels, which uses 8 spokes (4 pairs) only for both front & rear & the wheels were super fast (at that time la). Dun really cost a bomb back then, I mean, U dun have to sell Ur car or maybe house to get a pair...

on 2nd thought... tongyam might be posters awek... tat is why keep promoting tongyam...

tongyam must be hot and spicy... YEAH!!!... drink adi fiery farts...


most threads are already a failure when it gets started... so why border if it fails minimally or to the max... failing is failing... do you not get whacked in the nuts differently by your parents whether you failed 10% , 50% or 100% of your exam...

as homer once said... "trying is the first step towards failure"... so is opening a thread... if we don't open LYN will be an epic failure... we have to put aside our personal ideals in view of the bigger picture...

Butthead...chill the fuxk out... chill chill...your server is heating up dramatically... go sprinkle some water on it...

spinergy rev-x back then was a dangerous wheels... cutting heads and finger off...

but to be fair... they are both very different despite being carbon wheels... i mean the method in which they are built and how much difference in stiffness between the rev-x and madfibre or anything alike..

madfibre bonds their fibre around the entire hub shell and i dun understand it too well... but somehow uses the hub placement to put the spokes in tension and get a true wheel...

spinergy i think pins the spokes on the the carbon rims...and composites tech have grown so much over the years.. i bet if they make rev-x now, they would employ more sophisticated methods..

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Added on February 27, 2012, 3:45 pmooopss... didn't realize i riding my 32T cog... no wonder so easy to spin up so much cog...

server use water... die lo...

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 03:58 PM

i want to check something with your...

yesterday ride from Orang Asli Hospital to Batu Tinggi and Hot Spring total 65KM, my right knee is hurting, not so serious but can feel the pains when coming up from Hot spring to Genting Sempah.

As we know, cycling is less impact sport for knee, now my right knee is hurting, this must be a serious case right? meaning i shall rest more?

oh, 1 last thing, i'm just completed HK100 ultra trail race on 18-19 Feb. so i suspect my right knee is not fully recovered.

cycling is a low impact sport... unlike running.. but you have to remember that going through a full motion of a pedal stroke is much more than what you knee has to go through compared to running... and (65rpm x 60 mins x 1.5 hours) is jus under 6000 pedal strokes... you imagine...

on the contrary to many beliefs.. i was corrected by runners that running actually isn't bad for joints... as impact sports like running actually encourages your body to build more denser bone structures hence stronger bones... assuming you have enough of the calcium and wateve it needs to build it in the first place...

as for your pain... i think you should look into area like your cleat placement in the first place... if it is long term pain, you can go to expert fitters like BG fit studio in GH speedbike... that is if you don't mind paying RM800...

if not, play around with the clea adjustment and see if it helps... i have some bio-mechanics reference.. but too boring too read and often too lengthy i rather let my knee wear itself down... and i often get more confused than before i start reading it...

Hmmm.. does the low impact still apply to technical downhills?

What is your cadence like? Mashing the pedals at low cadences can put too much force on the knees. Saddle position too can be a factor. However if you injured your knee in the trail race then that should be it.

i am calm you dingbat... if not i would have travel through my computer screen and pop up on the other end like the one in the ring and stick a 5 inch steel pipe up the posters you know what...

that is me being not calm... this is me jus cocking around..

As long as you're not heel striking, which is why many runners mess themselves up.

Don't think that's an impact problem. I encountered this 3 times so far, and managed to narrow it down to the angle of my foot on the pedals.

I just rested my leg for 2 days, then its alright after that.

i dun think you ride a fully rigid bike right? furthermore, it will take a 10 foot cliff jump to make the riders on the bikes of this days feel any shock...so much shock travel...

my right knee pains developed during HK100 on downhills and steps with total elevation of 4,500 meters. you can imagine how much impact on my knees when downhills and steps.

on my previous cycling rides, until To-date i been cycling for about 400KM plus in total mileage before my HK100. i have no problem on my knees, be it 65KM or 100KM.

Guess my knee recovery is not complete yet.

anyways, thanks for raise up on the cleat placement.

Another thing to check is seat height. As a general rule, if Ur seat height is too high, injuries can come from behind the knees, if it's too low, U can injured on the front area of Ur knee....

When I switched from my old steel frame to Giant's Cadex CFR-1 frame (which was too small for me), I had to set my seat height about an inch lower becoz I can't find a suitable seatpost on time. The result was a knee injury which forced me off the bike for about 6 weeks... all becoz of 1 inch difference on seat height...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 4:54 pmIf U experience pain only on one leg, different leg lengths could be the culprit. U might have to use orthotics or shoe inserts... go & have it checked la...

This post has been edited by tenno: Feb 27 2012, 04:54 PM

i use ilumenox crocolite..can be seen from rear and even both sides (left and right) ...since it is so good and light..i bought another one..and now I have two on my seat post..blindingly flashing everyone who dares to come up to my rear wheel

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Added on February 27, 2012, 8:18 pmi recently developed a knee pain (right side..left side perfectly fine) it happened after a very short ride..less than 15km...and it is when I start to wear the cycling shoes, the clip and the pedal..could it be a wrong cleat positioning...or my saddle height is a bit too low?

(during installation of the cleat for my bont shoe, the guy at the shop told me that my saddle height is too high and hence he measured with a tape and readjusting it..now i'm not sure which one is the cause of the knee pain..is it the cleat or the height of the seatpost

but i highly think that is is because of the height...since i feel very relief once I fully extended my right leg...and yes I do think the leg length is the culprit...but it could also caused by the cleat positioning too..

my previous 60km ride..i don't feel any pain at all on both of my knees

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Feb 27 2012, 08:21 PM

Something good should be shared..



And let's support our Malaysian riders!

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Added on February 27, 2012, 9:59 pmYou could search for it at KH Cycles.Very nice rack..

This post has been edited by dinraxxx: Feb 27 2012, 09:59 PM

Nice sticker with own name... where can get and how much?

Okay, congratz for the new V2 thread. Just some pointer to help cyclist newbie’s when they went into this thread

-Put all the known bicycle shop address in the first post so that newbies wont ask it over and over again or get buried in the posts. I had to admit myself having trouble looking for the bike shop address as I first involved in cycling not in malaysia

-Some useful links perhaps? I do not know what link is useful but you guys should know i think?

That all i can think about. Maybe the first poster can do something about it eh to help newbies/forgetful peoples



I am back and glad to say that I am more or less healed. The only part a still pain abit is my tigh/butt part when walking around. Not as bad as last week by the way. Wont be cycling for few months unfortunately due to commitments and i was still struggling to find a flat land to cycle/practice as the nearest flatland near my place is 20/30 min walk away

Can someone pm me the full address of the pinarello malaysia distributor? The one on the website not really accurate as I cant serach it on google map.

Anyone know the new Avanti shop in TTDI? I was wondering what is the address for it because they made a full page appearance in newspaper but they did not put their actual full address. What the heck

This post has been edited by minizian: Feb 27 2012, 10:56 PM

Aha! Do you know Ducati TTDI?It's just behind there

Is it near the mazda/naza car dealer there??? Hmm I don go there often enough. Plus I also need the location for the few bike shop in ttdi.

Wanna carry some parts back to Australia as the price is similar but in aud only

This post has been edited by minizian: Feb 27 2012, 11:02 PM

it's hard to tell if it is not a consistent issue... your leg should not be fully extended on the downstroke, crank arm 6 o'clock position.. since that will cause your knee to go into a locking position and then out from it again... it is not good for your knees in the long term.. usually it is about 10-15 degree of bent on the leg on downstroke...

regarding cleats.. i don't think there is a guide.. but try to ride and feel if your feet is naturally trying to go against the clipped in position.... if it is, then it is putting stress on your leg muscles and that isn't good as well... for me, i try to ride without cleats or jus normal shoes and find my pedal sweet spot from there.. then i try to replicate it on the actual shoes with cleat positioning.. it is best that you feet feel naturally settled in and not feel like there is something holding it back... i don't think we'll be able to get the perfect setup since out of saddle, sitting more forwards and back on the saddle will also affect the positioning... but find one that suits your riding style best...

i find that myself prefer a more midfoot cleat rather than the usual recommendation... but unfortunately.. the shoes don't allow cleats to go that far back and with this setting.... a lot of front wheel clearance issues...

unlucky for the team to have dropped him jus so short of notice....

genting is coming in 2 days... who'd you think will win?

will DZ try to attack on the climb? or would vino execute a do or die maneuver to recover his 4 minutes deficit on DZ... too bad they placed genting too far away from the final stage or it will be the decider...

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Added on February 27, 2012, 11:16 pmthe address is
B-3-11, Block B, TTDI Plaza, Jalan Wan Kadir 3

the baik bike directory would be the best bet for most other shops... bike plus might be too new...

http://www.baikbike.com/biking-stores/

not much point to stick it on first post... jus formality i think... since most newbies will ask either way... if you stick it there.. then we'll say... go read first page and end up pissing them off at the same time ourselves because we put it there and they don't bother to read... i guess no win-win situation.. most importantly to offer help by answering if it ain't too hard...

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 11:16 PM

what team? I don't think David Zabriesky can beat Adiq H Othman.I cycled with Adiq and Anuar and I know Anuar is the wild card of sprinting and Adiq is the King of Climbs. Loh Sea Keong is very good too, really am a big fan of his. And best of all The Salleh brothers Zamri and Harrif did a good job today by getting Harrif 3rd place podium run for Muar Stage.Tomorrow there are 3 climbs.The best should be watched at Genting Perez.hehehe..

if you wanna see pinarello.. i think KSH TTDI will also have quite a few of their road range... and shouldn't be too far away from bike plus if you do visit...

furthermore.. distributor might not be a retail shop... and might not entertain end users.. only dealers will...

if you want the real deal of Pinarello's go to Jami Bike Shop in Kajang.That's where the good stuff comes..



Spoilers to you guys.

i meant it was unlucky to get dropped by national colors since he came back specifically for this... it would be more preferable for him to win in national colors in his home tour...

i am not excluding asian riders.. but there are quite some big guns in this edition of the tour... i guess it is really up to whether they have garnered enough interest in winning the GC...

tomorrow although there are several climbs.. but none high enough to gain massive time and too far away from the finish line.. genting would be the sure fire bet if any of the pro tour or pro continental teams have interest.. it is long enough and it is a mountain top finish although there are 3 more stages after it before the final day...

if team tactics were to come into play... i think some of the pro tour guys can really cause some damage on stage 6... after that.. it is a lot of rolling terrain with no massive climbs...

DZ is no known climber.... but there is tom danielson in garmin baraccuda and not forget the kazakh loose canon... we also have a previous GC jose rujana in adroni giocattoli... if he manage to maintain his giro form against contador.. he might also put in some huge time on the stage to genting... he is jus 1.5 mins down anyways... and i remember genting was also how he sealed his victory 2 years ago...

Genting Stage, I'm gonna standby at Gohtong like an *******.lol

don't know wat is the intention minizian wants with pinarello anyways.. but i think having to head to kajang is like too far away for minizian who lives somewhere in uptown if i am not wrong?

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Added on February 27, 2012, 11:39 pmi am going to stick by my plan.. stand where there is not much people and speeds are slow and most importantly no barriers separating the road going up and down... then put in a big shove.. steal bike, make u-turn and like lance says to floyd... "ride like you stole something" in my case preferably an SL4...

who's with me?

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 27 2012, 11:43 PM

Actually i want to go to Jami bike shop cause a friend of mine who is regular customer there told me about some good deal on parts there same price as Aus but in RM. Hence i was looking for actual address so tat i can find my way there and have a look.

I am living in Amapang area which is quite close to the stage 5 finishing line. Plan to pay a visit there. ANy idea what time does the peloton leave and approx what time they will reach the finish line??

This post has been edited by minizian: Feb 27 2012, 11:56 PM

oohhh.. my bad.. thought i recall you mentioning you live near joo ngan... or you meant joo ngan "joo ngan" the senior one... well, that proves i have some lousy taiwanese made memory chips with corrupted data...

for the stage start and estimated end time.. you can refer to the race manual in the LTDL site...

for stage 5...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download/Stage05.pdf

the rest of it...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download.asp

minizian, pm me who's your friend name is.I live in Wangsa Maju.Alot of people here are currently a Pinarello fanatics. We have our own road group too.

Hey thanks for the links, really helpful. Finish is damn close to close to my house, just a 5 min ride away by car. Hope no mega jam there Hope to get some pics with the rider? If its that possible? Will there any freebies given out at that area?

Btw, I saw one shop with the board Joo ngan in ampang. What is the diffrence with the other store in ss2 (if i not wrong)? Each operated by Dad and son respectively?

This post has been edited by minizian: Feb 28 2012, 12:41 AM

I got a friend who does this..RM 10 for 4 stickers

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Added on February 28, 2012, 1:11 amDad sells professional bikes and service.But freakishly expensive unless you talk with the aunty there. Son sells mid range bikes.

This post has been edited by dinraxxx: Feb 28 2012, 01:11 AM

ampang shop is the fathers (joo ngan) shop... uptown, son (edwin)... sri petaling i think is the daughter managing it...

finish line there is some small gifts... mostly items by sponsors...if you are mid route.. you have to be there at least 1 hour earlier to wait for the motor cavalcade to pass... they will fling you small gifts as they pass...

i remember when i was young... went to a finish in sunway... got ice cream to eat... manage to get a bite at the finish area buffet by sunway hotel (meant for riders and guest)... best of all... they gave out free LTDL water bottles back then... they gave me some.. but i asked for a couple more before i left... and the guy either had his way with his GF the night before or he was in a hurry to pack up and close shop.. gave me the entire leftover plastic bag of bottles... like 50-60 of em...

i jus hauled 'em home...facelessly... and became water bottle supplier for that year..

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Added on February 28, 2012, 1:50 amdoes your friend do wheel decals?

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Added on February 28, 2012, 1:51 am4 pages in 1 day...




This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 28 2012, 01:51 AM

thx butthead. I youtube around and there are some basics principle in saddle height adjustment..tried them myself..not sure whether it is perfectly ok or not. but the rule number one I found is, no matter how sophisticated or expensive your bike fitting system you paid for, the only thing that is important for bike riding is your comfort on the bike. hence I did change the saddle height a couple of times myself..have to bring the allen key during my ride later

btw dinraxx...that sticker looks cool..i want one! can I put my order?

that is why cyclists or the equipment freaks are known to be excessive tinkerers...

they are constantly adjusting things as it goes...

bro, you stay at Wangsa Maju? so near my place. I'm at Genting Kelang...

one day, we can ride together, if you dont mind newbie slow rider...

oh Jami Bike... no wonder sound so familiar...i bought my Lazer from him...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 10:50 amhaha~ me just behind u... Jalan Langkawi...

This post has been edited by hianboy: Feb 28 2012, 10:50 AM

normally... the people who always say they are slow pokes turn up to mash everyone into a pulp...

am in... but i wan this...

maybe i shud bring my allen key along my ride too

Y U NO TRUST ME....

I'm always the last 1 in the group...

even a kid who just climb Genting Sempah for second time can do 53mins... me, only 58mins...

go

dun u guys have multitools?



trust issues...

me genting sempah.. well over 1 hour.. trust me?

Well, I did less than 50 min.Trust me?

This post has been edited by dinraxxx: Feb 28 2012, 01:25 PM

on a motobike... yes... definitely... and with a slow ride to sight see and stops to take pictures of baboons on the side of the road...

50mins is absolutely do-able...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 1:40 pmtotally un-related...



would have fared better in apple byte... but my ass would be toast in flat out no time...

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 28 2012, 01:40 PM

and also feed da monkey...

worried me... thought u gonna say spank the monkey...

Speaking of Robin Williams... He has a Dogma Sky !!!

he is a good friend to lance armstrong and he is rumoured to have 30 bikes or so at home...

he is a usual appearance in the tour and the USPS team bus to cheer them up before the race... and he calls lance the uni-baller...

he and lance travels to those iraqi war zones to motivate the american soldiers as well... along with some american heroes and stars...



This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 28 2012, 01:48 PM

Yep he does! And do you know Patrick Dempsey also cycles? He set up an organization called the Dempsey Challenge.Same as Livestrong, but on his own motives!



This post has been edited by dinraxxx: Feb 28 2012, 01:55 PM

mcdreamy does every damn thing a man every wants to do... be a woman's dream guy, pretend to be a handsome doctor (sounding gay now), drive race cars, race in lemans...

so, cycling is the least of his achievements... his organization was also part nike sponsored.. think livestrong did linked up with them on a joint effort for something...

he got hooked up with a lot big stars after being in a relationship with sheryl crow...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 1:58 pmyou should watch the "weapons of self destruction" it's available on youtube i segments...

i like the "i know you've googled cocksucker"...

there are a lot of other funny ones too... like golf and doctor roof.. the jihad is also funny...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 2:09 pmthis is going to become robin williams thread soon...






with ellen degeneres


there is lots...if you have the time...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 2:21 pmon the topic of charitable organizations...

ben stiller's stillerstrong spoof...

he broke lance's bike


800 dollars for 2 stillerstrong headbands...conned owen wilson


this one is quite serious


This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 28 2012, 02:21 PM

considering either velo senso Or selle italia ?

Selle Italia all the way

anybody using this before? comments?

Selle Italia C2 Gel Flow Saddle


This post has been edited by ryan3721: Feb 28 2012, 03:52 PM

I use Flite

like this



This post has been edited by noprob: Feb 28 2012, 04:09 PM

i agree with dinraxx... brand wise selle italia is a more reputable saddle maker than velo...longer history too i believe...

you have to factor in if there is any saddles that you particularly like from either brand...

hard to comment and comment might make totally no sense if you are comparing apple to apples...

if you are taking a RM25 saddle comparing to this, then there is a comparison...

if not, then hard to say... my butt is not your butt... and likewise...wat suits me might not for you... if you get what i meant...

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Added on February 28, 2012, 4:38 pmVelonews is hiring an full time expert cocker...

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/02/new...g-editor_207445

who's up for the job?

this attributes i already failed not to mention the professional qualifications

The ideal candidate will be able to spell names like Frischknecht, Maaskant and Vinokourov from memory.

The ideal candidate can list off every winner of the last 20 Tours de France.

The ideal candidate is able to fix a flat tire in under 10 minutes, using only tire levers and a mini-pump.

This post has been edited by butthead: Feb 28 2012, 04:39 PM

"The ideal candidate is able to fix a flat tire in under 10 minutes, using only tire levers and a mini-pump."

er... use tire levers to pull the tube out... find a pokok getah... scratch some rubber liquid out... patch the tube... put it back... and pump?

Went to the today stage finish line. Not much freebies as I expected. Instead of waiting at the finish line itself, i wait at the place where all the support team car parked. Managed to take pic with the Garmin team director but not any of the rider

and maybe the Selle Royal Dardo .... look so comfy


but velo senso and selle italia look more ergonomic for man

This post has been edited by noprob: Feb 28 2012, 05:00 PM