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post Feb 27 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 26 2012, 11:06 PM)
I saw conti 4000 just now too, retail price at 189 right?

just got a maxxis detonator.. really feels rough.. i hope the riding comfortableness would not be too bad..
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you do have to remember that detonators and GP4000's are in a totally different category... while detonators are training tyres... GP4000's are race rubbers...

training rubber will focus more on durability and long term reliability while race tires might forgo those factors in favor of weight savings...

maxxis does have race tyres which starts with columbiere and then xenith and i think another 2 models depending on whether you want slicks or threaded ones...


Added on February 27, 2012, 10:11 am
QUOTE(ryan3721 @ Feb 26 2012, 11:25 PM)
there are some differences between 4000 and 4000s (newer).

4000s with the new Black Chili Compound rolling resistance is reduced by 26%, grip is increased by 30% and mileage is increased by 5%.

The one I saw posted on facebook is 4000s asking price is RM180

Found this post: apparently the writer got confused and got the 4000 (without S) for Rm152

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It is a bit weird. 4000s come default with black chilli and slightly lower weight than 4000s (-10gr).

And 4000 has also black chilli on their foldable black version but is heavier by 10gr... logic tells me 4000s is not much of a sensible choice for spending extra RM30....furthermore, both has the same thread design, 3 plies, 330tpi case, and their own puncture protection...

http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/...ckchili_en.html

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post Feb 27 2012, 10:45 AM

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training tyres are built to last long miles sacrificing light weight and maybe certain ride qualities...

race tyres are built to maximize efficiency (reduce rolling resistance, more cornering grip, etc) and concentrates on reducing rotating mass...

usually, if budget persists... a 2nd set of race tubular wheels would be the best option... with the advent of road tubeless... it is becoming a intermediate between clincher and tubulars... and with systems like Fulcrum 2 way fits... you can opt between tubeless and clincher tyres without owning another set of wheels...

stan's won't be cheap though if you go down road tubeless route...
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post Feb 27 2012, 10:56 AM

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here comes pr@wn...

single
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a group...
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more tasty group...
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saucy ones...
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you want 3 prawns... i gave you 4...

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post Feb 27 2012, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 27 2012, 10:59 AM)
how's this one? smile.gif

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p@wned...

technically.. i think that is a lobster...


Added on February 27, 2012, 11:18 am
QUOTE(kindredd @ Feb 27 2012, 11:12 AM)
Please stop with the prawns....making me toooo hungry....smile.gif

Now how am I supposed to lose 2nd to compete with my friends pinarello weight difference?

Congrats on v2 by the way!
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it is suppose to make you desire and crave for them more... so, this demonstrates that it is working..

you should blame it on the idiot for asked for prawns... as they say... don't order what you can't stomach...

QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 27 2012, 11:15 AM)
I realise when I go uphill I hate every inch of my fat around my belly.. time to loose them
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there is this thing called liposuction you know... fastest way to lose it... along with your $$$

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post Feb 27 2012, 12:09 PM

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time for some real ones...

madfibre wheels...
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fully carbon constructed...
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how it looks on a bike...
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specs, 12 spoke front, 18 spoke rear, 60mm rim height front 66mm rear, sub 1300 grams, white industries hub internals i heard...

http://www.madfiber.com/clincher-ceramic-r...s-article?tcc=1

a light description of how they made the wheels...
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/mad-...rst-look-26205/

think Treknology has it... but a price of above RM10k scares most away...


Added on February 27, 2012, 12:23 pmmy personal favourites...

Paired spokes Rolf Prima wheels...

the carbon Ares 4
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alloy Vigor
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and the super crazy lacking of spokes wheels.. the tt85...
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unfortunately, not available here.

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post Feb 27 2012, 01:30 PM

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post Feb 27 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(littlebeettle @ Feb 27 2012, 02:22 PM)
Just our of curiosity, does the normal brake pad work seamless on these wheels?  hmm.gif
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you do have to run carbon specific pads on carbon brake tracks.. zipp makes some cork pads which are quite good... or swiss stop yellow series... or you end up with a grabby set of brakes or you suffer issues with pads fading...

there are pads that work both types of brake tracks, think the swiss stop is one of 'em...but it is never advised to swap wheels without swapping pads as metal debris can get lodged in the pads and accelerate the wear on the carbon wheels...

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QUOTE(littlebeettle @ Feb 27 2012, 03:14 PM)
You may opt for blinker and get it tied on your seat stay. I have seen some riders having few on the seat stay


Added on February 27, 2012, 3:15 pm

thanks for the clarification butthead  tongue.gif
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most models have brackets to mount it to post or seat stay.. shouldn't be an issue... jus make sure it doesn't fly into spokes or catastrophe...

for me, i clip onto jersey rear pocket...

QUOTE(hianz86 @ Feb 27 2012, 03:21 PM)
lyn cycling club without tongyam is failed to the max.

Kthxbye!
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what's tongyam... can eat wan ah...

anyways, tak paham the intention of your post... you must be
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QUOTE(hianboy @ Feb 27 2012, 03:28 PM)
tongyam???? apa tu???
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must be tomyam's little bradder....

goes damn well with our prawn earlier... make the soup sweet... and we got 4 prawns somemore and a motobike prawn...
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Added on February 27, 2012, 3:33 pmhungwy any1?

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post Feb 27 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(hianboy @ Feb 27 2012, 03:28 PM)
tongyam???? apa tu???
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on 2nd thought... tongyam might be posters awek... tat is why keep promoting tongyam...

tongyam must be hot and spicy... YEAH!!!... drink adi fiery farts...
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most threads are already a failure when it gets started... so why border if it fails minimally or to the max... failing is failing... do you not get whacked in the nuts differently by your parents whether you failed 10% , 50% or 100% of your exam...

as homer once said... "trying is the first step towards failure"... so is opening a thread... if we don't open LYN will be an epic failure... we have to put aside our personal ideals in view of the bigger picture...


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QUOTE(tenno @ Feb 27 2012, 03:37 PM)
This concept is not new U know... years back all the craze was about Spinergy wheels, which uses 8 spokes (4 pairs) only for both front & rear & the wheels were super fast (at that time la). Dun really cost a bomb back then, I mean, U dun have to sell Ur car or maybe house to get a pair...
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spinergy rev-x back then was a dangerous wheels... cutting heads and finger off...

but to be fair... they are both very different despite being carbon wheels... i mean the method in which they are built and how much difference in stiffness between the rev-x and madfibre or anything alike..

madfibre bonds their fibre around the entire hub shell and i dun understand it too well... but somehow uses the hub placement to put the spokes in tension and get a true wheel...

spinergy i think pins the spokes on the the carbon rims...and composites tech have grown so much over the years.. i bet if they make rev-x now, they would employ more sophisticated methods..


Added on February 27, 2012, 3:45 pm
QUOTE(hianboy @ Feb 27 2012, 03:43 PM)
Butthead...chill the fuxk out... chill chill...your server is heating up dramatically... go sprinkle some water on it...
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ooopss... didn't realize i riding my 32T cog... no wonder so easy to spin up so much cog...

server use water... die lo...

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Feb 27 2012, 03:58 PM)
i want to check something with your...

yesterday ride from Orang Asli Hospital to Batu Tinggi and Hot Spring total 65KM, my right knee is hurting, not so serious but can feel the pains when coming up from Hot spring to Genting Sempah.

As we know, cycling is less impact sport for knee, now my right knee is hurting, this must be a serious case right?  meaning i shall rest more?

oh, 1 last thing, i'm just completed HK100 ultra trail race on 18-19 Feb. so i suspect my right knee is not fully recovered.
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cycling is a low impact sport... unlike running.. but you have to remember that going through a full motion of a pedal stroke is much more than what you knee has to go through compared to running... and (65rpm x 60 mins x 1.5 hours) is jus under 6000 pedal strokes... you imagine...

on the contrary to many beliefs.. i was corrected by runners that running actually isn't bad for joints... as impact sports like running actually encourages your body to build more denser bone structures hence stronger bones... assuming you have enough of the calcium and wateve it needs to build it in the first place...

as for your pain... i think you should look into area like your cleat placement in the first place... if it is long term pain, you can go to expert fitters like BG fit studio in GH speedbike... that is if you don't mind paying RM800...

if not, play around with the clea adjustment and see if it helps... i have some bio-mechanics reference.. but too boring too read and often too lengthy i rather let my knee wear itself down... and i often get more confused than before i start reading it...
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QUOTE(hianboy @ Feb 27 2012, 04:01 PM)
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i am calm you dingbat... if not i would have travel through my computer screen and pop up on the other end like the one in the ring and stick a 5 inch steel pipe up the posters you know what...

that is me being not calm... this is me jus cocking around..
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QUOTE(malleus @ Feb 27 2012, 04:13 PM)
Hmmm.. does the low impact still apply to technical downhills? tongue.gif
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i dun think you ride a fully rigid bike right? furthermore, it will take a 10 foot cliff jump to make the riders on the bikes of this days feel any shock...so much shock travel...
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QUOTE(mrjgx @ Feb 27 2012, 08:11 PM)
i recently developed a knee pain (right side..left side perfectly fine) it happened after a very short ride..less than 15km...and it is when I start to wear the cycling shoes, the clip and the pedal..could it be a wrong cleat positioning...or my saddle height is a bit too low?

(during installation of the cleat for my bont shoe, the guy at the shop told me that my saddle height is too high and hence he measured with a tape and readjusting it..now i'm not sure which one is the cause of the knee pain..is it the cleat or the height of the seatpost  rclxub.gif

but i highly think that is is because of the height...since i feel very relief once I fully extended my right leg...and yes I do think the leg length is the culprit...but it could also caused by the cleat positioning too..  rclxub.gif

my previous 60km ride..i don't feel any pain at all on both of my knees  shakehead.gif
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it's hard to tell if it is not a consistent issue... your leg should not be fully extended on the downstroke, crank arm 6 o'clock position.. since that will cause your knee to go into a locking position and then out from it again... it is not good for your knees in the long term.. usually it is about 10-15 degree of bent on the leg on downstroke...

regarding cleats.. i don't think there is a guide.. but try to ride and feel if your feet is naturally trying to go against the clipped in position.... if it is, then it is putting stress on your leg muscles and that isn't good as well... for me, i try to ride without cleats or jus normal shoes and find my pedal sweet spot from there.. then i try to replicate it on the actual shoes with cleat positioning.. it is best that you feet feel naturally settled in and not feel like there is something holding it back... i don't think we'll be able to get the perfect setup since out of saddle, sitting more forwards and back on the saddle will also affect the positioning... but find one that suits your riding style best...

i find that myself prefer a more midfoot cleat rather than the usual recommendation... but unfortunately.. the shoes don't allow cleats to go that far back and with this setting.... a lot of front wheel clearance issues...

QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 09:46 PM)
Something good should be shared.. tongue.gif
And let's support our Malaysian riders! 
unlucky for the team to have dropped him jus so short of notice....

genting is coming in 2 days... who'd you think will win?

will DZ try to attack on the climb? or would vino execute a do or die maneuver to recover his 4 minutes deficit on DZ... too bad they placed genting too far away from the final stage or it will be the decider...


Added on February 27, 2012, 11:16 pm
QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 10:54 PM)
Okay, congratz for the new V2 thread. Just some pointer to help cyclist newbie’s when they went into this thread

-Put all the known bicycle shop address in the first post so that newbies wont ask it over and over again or get buried in the posts. I had to admit myself having trouble looking for the bike shop address as I first involved in cycling not in malaysia  sad.gif

-Some useful links perhaps? I do not know what link is useful but you guys should know i think?

That all i can think about. Maybe the first poster can do something about it eh to help newbies/forgetful peoples  biggrin.gif
I am back and glad to say that I am more or less healed. The only part a still pain abit is my tigh/butt part when walking around. Not as bad as last week by the way. Wont be cycling for few months unfortunately due to commitments and i was still struggling to find a flat land to cycle/practice as the nearest flatland near my place is 20/30 min walk away  sad.gif

Can someone pm me the full address of the pinarello malaysia distributor? The one on the website not really accurate as I cant serach it on google map.

Anyone know the new Avanti shop in TTDI? I was wondering what is the address for it because they made a full page appearance in newspaper but they did not put their actual full address. What the heck  doh.gif
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the address is
B-3-11, Block B, TTDI Plaza, Jalan Wan Kadir 3

the baik bike directory would be the best bet for most other shops... bike plus might be too new...

http://www.baikbike.com/biking-stores/

not much point to stick it on first post... jus formality i think... since most newbies will ask either way... if you stick it there.. then we'll say... go read first page and end up pissing them off at the same time ourselves because we put it there and they don't bother to read... i guess no win-win situation.. most importantly to offer help by answering if it ain't too hard...

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post Feb 27 2012, 11:19 PM

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if you wanna see pinarello.. i think KSH TTDI will also have quite a few of their road range... and shouldn't be too far away from bike plus if you do visit...

furthermore.. distributor might not be a retail shop... and might not entertain end users.. only dealers will...
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:18 PM)
what team? I don't think David Zabriesky can beat Adiq H Othman.I cycled with Adiq and Anuar and I know Anuar is the wild card of sprinting and Adiq is the King of Climbs. Loh Sea Keong is very good too, really am a big fan of his. And best of all The Salleh brothers Zamri and Harrif did a good job today by getting Harrif 3rd place podium run for Muar Stage.Tomorrow there are 3 climbs.The best should be watched at Genting Perez.hehehe..
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i meant it was unlucky to get dropped by national colors since he came back specifically for this... it would be more preferable for him to win in national colors in his home tour...

i am not excluding asian riders.. but there are quite some big guns in this edition of the tour... i guess it is really up to whether they have garnered enough interest in winning the GC...

tomorrow although there are several climbs.. but none high enough to gain massive time and too far away from the finish line.. genting would be the sure fire bet if any of the pro tour or pro continental teams have interest.. it is long enough and it is a mountain top finish although there are 3 more stages after it before the final day...

if team tactics were to come into play... i think some of the pro tour guys can really cause some damage on stage 6... after that.. it is a lot of rolling terrain with no massive climbs...

DZ is no known climber.... but there is tom danielson in garmin baraccuda and not forget the kazakh loose canon... we also have a previous GC jose rujana in adroni giocattoli... if he manage to maintain his giro form against contador.. he might also put in some huge time on the stage to genting... he is jus 1.5 mins down anyways... and i remember genting was also how he sealed his victory 2 years ago...
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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:33 PM)
if you want the real deal of Pinarello's go to Jami Bike Shop in Kajang.That's where the good stuff comes..
don't know wat is the intention minizian wants with pinarello anyways.. but i think having to head to kajang is like too far away for minizian who lives somewhere in uptown if i am not wrong?


Added on February 27, 2012, 11:39 pm
QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 27 2012, 11:35 PM)
Genting Stage, I'm gonna standby at Gohtong like an *******.lol
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i am going to stick by my plan.. stand where there is not much people and speeds are slow and most importantly no barriers separating the road going up and down... then put in a big shove.. steal bike, make u-turn and like lance says to floyd... "ride like you stole something" in my case preferably an SL4...

who's with me?

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QUOTE(minizian @ Feb 27 2012, 11:51 PM)
Actually i want to go to Jami bike shop cause a friend of mine who is regular customer there told me about some good deal on parts there same price as Aus but in RM. Hence i was looking for actual address so tat i can find my way there and have a look.

I am living in Amapang area which is quite close to the stage 5 finishing line. Plan to pay a visit there. ANy idea what time does the peloton leave and approx what time they will reach the finish line??
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oohhh.. my bad.. thought i recall you mentioning you live near joo ngan... or you meant joo ngan "joo ngan" the senior one... well, that proves i have some lousy taiwanese made memory chips with corrupted data...

for the stage start and estimated end time.. you can refer to the race manual in the LTDL site...

for stage 5...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download/Stage05.pdf

the rest of it...
http://www.ltdl.com.my/2012/download.asp

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ampang shop is the fathers (joo ngan) shop... uptown, son (edwin)... sri petaling i think is the daughter managing it...

finish line there is some small gifts... mostly items by sponsors...if you are mid route.. you have to be there at least 1 hour earlier to wait for the motor cavalcade to pass... they will fling you small gifts as they pass...

i remember when i was young... went to a finish in sunway... got ice cream to eat... manage to get a bite at the finish area buffet by sunway hotel (meant for riders and guest)... best of all... they gave out free LTDL water bottles back then... they gave me some.. but i asked for a couple more before i left... and the guy either had his way with his GF the night before or he was in a hurry to pack up and close shop.. gave me the entire leftover plastic bag of bottles... like 50-60 of em...

i jus hauled 'em home...facelessly... and became water bottle supplier for that year..


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QUOTE(dinraxxx @ Feb 28 2012, 01:10 AM)
I got a friend who does this..RM 10 for 4 stickers smile.gif
does your friend do wheel decals?


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post Feb 28 2012, 09:27 AM

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that is why cyclists or the equipment freaks are known to be excessive tinkerers...

they are constantly adjusting things as it goes...

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