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yuanyi
post Mar 12 2012, 10:51 AM

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hey, may i know where i can find jamis road bikes in KL??
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post Mar 12 2012, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 12 2012, 01:43 PM)
call and ask see... i know fook sang used to have the jamis range, but i think no longer. You can also give them a call to see if they still carry.. if not, then the listed distributor for malaysia...

Montana Cycle SDN. BHD
Lot 572, Taman Pinang Jaya,
Bukit Pinang,
06200 Kepala Batas,
Alor Setar,
Kedah Darulaman.
Tel : 04-7143071
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thanks butthead!


Added on March 12, 2012, 4:08 pm
QUOTE(miaopurr @ Mar 12 2012, 03:04 PM)
i think sen aik sells jamis.

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they do,but only mtb i think? :/ thanks anyways smile.gif

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post Mar 12 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Mar 12 2012, 04:20 PM)
they have mostly MTB stuff... why would you be interested in a jamis anyways? looking at the Ventura range? or Xenith?

The Ventura Comp was voted for the best sub 800 dollar bike in the market in 2009....

they are not bad for being a butted 7005 aluminum frame... xenith, i have yet to see one yet...
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yeah, saw their album on facebook. :/ am interested at the ventura range, something nice and simple for beginner bike. I had jamis as my first proper bike, trail x3 smile.gif awesome bike. Most of their frames are 7005 allu i think? xenith range is deadly..
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post Jun 14 2012, 01:58 AM

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Hi all sifu! Need some opinion here. I have 2 choices for my bike computer. Polar cs200 and sigma 1909 her. Which is a better choice eh? I'm getting it from my frequent flyer program so its practically free. Thanks !
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post Jun 22 2012, 01:48 PM

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dear sifus, is there any difference between a carbon chainstay and alloy one?
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post Jun 22 2012, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 22 2012, 02:15 PM)
carbon is stiffer than alloy in general sense...

you looking at a titanium - carbon hybrid frame?
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i see, choosing from 2 diff bikes with 600 bucks diff. Cheaper one has alloy chainstay and normal rims and microshift groups. and the one 600 more exp has a carbon chainstay and mavic wheels + 105/tiagra groups. So am thinking if the diff is worth the 600
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post Jun 23 2012, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 22 2012, 04:36 PM)
if a well made hybrid carbon end bike... i think it is worth 600 irregardless of the parts.. they just used carbon on the part where there is massive power transfers... this was a norm in the late 90s on high end bikes before the big advancement of carbon frames...

as for the groups... it depends on what wheels vs which mavic wheels... usually it will be aksium race... if you get ksyrium equipe, all the better...

microshift is no different from shimano...it is cross compatible with shimano but a different shifter layout... i would say personal preferences win at this point ...full microshift group? seldom seen it on a bike...

wat bike is it btw?
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I see. The only big difference i see between them were the chainstay and the mavic cxp22n rims.
Its a khs flite 450 full microshift.
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post Jun 27 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 25 2012, 02:43 PM)

the carbon chainstay is really up to your personal preference... in terms of performance in stiffness.. it would of course be better than the full alloy bike... but still succumb to bottom bracket flex...

is the higher model this

http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_500_12.htm

or this (ultegra -105 mix)

http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_720l_12.htm

if the latter one then really quite worth the RM1.4k difference..

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The higher model that i was refering is khs flite 500. Anyways chose the 450, cause of the color i guess. haha.
Btw the bad part here is i took a 52cm top tube frame. I'm 180cm tall. is this ok? :/
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post Jun 27 2012, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 27 2012, 04:31 PM)
most people will tell you it is too small.. but i'd say go with what you are comfortable with.. it has yet to be too small a frame yet to call it too small...

slightly smaller is usually the safer way as you can still extend your reach with a longer stem and stuff...

once you are on too big a frame... you are quite limited although you can try to use the shorter MTB stems to reduce length and stuff.. that is if you don't mind...
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But le butthead, how to know if im comfortable with the size of the bike? =.= i know this sounds dumb, haha.
Btw my seat tube is only 47, is that too short? my lbs said length of seat tube is not as important as long as the top tube is long enough.

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post Jun 27 2012, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 27 2012, 04:49 PM)
woah... 180cm height, top tube 52, seat tube 47. u sure u got the right size?

i'm 160cm, top tube 51.8, seat tube 49, stem 100
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yawn.gif wah, really ah? i dont know, lbs recommended that size for me, rode on it, feels alright. what bout ur bike? too big?or ngam ngam?
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post Jun 27 2012, 04:59 PM

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numbness in palms? handlebar tape prob??
:/ hmm, we have 20cm diff in height and share the same sizing for frame. this sounds really bad. haha, need to ask my lbs again. sighs.. susah betul..
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jun 27 2012, 05:01 PM)
hmmm...

i have no idea what's you talking about.

i know 160cm which i'm 5cm taller than you. haha..

anyways, riding 100KM, 200KM... i have no back pains. Guess my bike setup just right for me!
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bro vin_ann, whats your bike size eh?
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Jun 27 2012, 05:09 PM)
My bike is S size too, around size 51 i think..
I'm 178.. but my torso is not that long..

I just adjusted my bike, seems to gave me problem for ride above 40km previously.. yet to test out the new position.. you won't usually able to experience anything odd below 50km i think
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Hmm, in that case i think my top tube 52cm is fine then =.=
my stem is only 90mm, can extend to 110 if needed biggrin.gif

what adjustment did u make for your bike? i still cant believe i am taking a size 52 bike =.=


Added on June 27, 2012, 5:21 pm
QUOTE(mavericksam @ Jun 27 2012, 05:12 PM)
guys.. am planning to get my first road race bike... was being recommended

1) EMC Etape R2.8
2) Polygon Helios 200
3) Volcano St Gallen
4) XDS 700390 Team Machine

budget is about 2k plus minus... any idea about these?
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Nice list, emc r2.8 was on my list too biggrin.gif btw if u can top up a lil bit more ou of 2k try this
http://www.khsbicycles.com/05_flite_450_12.htm
After months of searching finally found a nice and cheap one (Y) Price after discount rm2,250

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post Jun 27 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(miaopurr @ Jun 27 2012, 05:23 PM)
i thought u said your frame size is 49?
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47 is my seat tube. 52 is my top tube. I think frame size follow the top tube right? Oops, too many measurements =.=
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(mavericksam @ Jun 27 2012, 05:26 PM)
That extra bit is no problem larr... was quoted 2.2k for r2.8. where can i find the khs?
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R2.8 can actually get it for 1.8k, in taman Muda. KHS u can find it over at Yong Advanced Cycle near Tmn Dagang Ampang. Ori price he quote me 2500 but give 10% discount. so 2250.
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(butthead @ Jun 27 2012, 05:26 PM)
comfortable as in you are not too out-stretched in whichever handlebar position you are holding... don't feel un-easy on the bike...also it is a preferential thing... some people like to sit more upright for long riding... some like the low-down pro look and sacrifice some comfort...

yes... seat tube almost does not matter nowadays since it can be compensated easily by seat post adjustments...

top tube is hard to affect the changes as it requires stem changes of different lengths...
maybe you have too much activity with your hands.... if you know what i mean  blush.gif

it's telling you to stop it...
frame sizing doesn't make sense sometimes...

for instance and lack of examples...

Alberto Contador (1.76M tall)

frame size : 52cm
stem : 120mm
top tube length (assuming it's ETT) : 537mm
saddle height from BB : 748mm
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-...rmac-sl3-27088/

Lance Armstrong (1.77M tall)

frame size : 58cm (Trek pro fit geometry)
stem : 120mm
top tube length (assuming it's ETT) : 573mm
saddle height from BB : 758mm
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-...6-series-25622/

Chris Horner (1.8M tall)

frame size : 58cm (Trek H2 geometry)
stem : 120mm
top tube length (assuming it's ETT) : 560mm
saddle height from BB : 760mm
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-...ssl-atoc-30223/

Tejay Van Garderen (1.85M tall)... would have wanted ryder, but no pro bike review

frame size : 56cm
stem : 140mm
top tube length : 565mm
saddle height from BB : 817mm
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-...-mclaren-30841/

Andy Schleck (1.86M)

frame size : 58cm
stem : 140mm
top tube length : 573mm
saddle height from BB : 782mm
http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/article/pro-...e-france-30814/

as you can see... might not make sense..
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Hmm, le butthead, bike sizing really doesnt make sense, haha.
You are totally right about the comfort on bike. I think the 52.5 cm top tube is alright for me then -.- phew.. For the riding position, is it necessary to have ur feet touching the ground btw?
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post Jun 27 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(mavericksam @ Jun 27 2012, 05:34 PM)
can give me the shop name and contact in taman Muda? not familiar with shops at all... lol...
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TS Bike Shop - Mr Ronnie 012-3875138
http://ts-bike-shop.blogspot.com/
80 Jalan Bunga Tanjung 10, Taman muda, Cheras, 56100 Kuala Lumpur

Yong Advance Cycles
https://www.facebook.com/YongadvanceCycles
No. 36, Jalan Sulaiman 1, Taman Putra Sulaiman, 68000 Ampang, Kuala Lumpur
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post Jun 27 2012, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(hianboy @ Jun 27 2012, 06:23 PM)
crap!!! is there size diff on bike frame!!!???

i just dump the the damn money to the bike shop owner and hopped on  the polygon 500 which look nice on me then ride it back home...

im still wondering whether did i get the right size for me...

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biggrin.gif u da man (Y)!
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post Jun 28 2012, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(nlik @ Jun 28 2012, 12:04 AM)
i think i got lucky. me 178cm height and very happy with the merida 903 SM frame.  geometries . Seat height is like set to '80', and it took several adjustments of the seat height , front and back till it felt just right. 
Tonight the group attacked Kesas from bkt jalil to Glenmarie and back.
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Nice one. I saw ur model with he same exact size in my lbs. Nice bike btw! But bit over my student's budget lol.


Added on June 28, 2012, 1:48 pm
QUOTE(minizian @ Jun 28 2012, 11:21 AM)
i went to TS bike shop to look at emc and an old man treated me badly. I wanted to show him my r2.2 pic to him and he scolded me "U cant take picture here, its a rules" i was like wat the F,,k i just wan to ask him if he had that in stock or not.... Then i asked him if he carrier mavic wheel he just snobblish tell me "look there" pointing at stack of wheel, "if it was there then we have stock, if not there then no stock"... i was so pissed off and walk away shaking my head  doh.gif
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I think the boss simply ask an old man to jaga the shop. Everyime I go there the boss is around

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