VVTi and DVVT is continuous meh?

the engine might be improved for powerful mods. but the cvt gearbox that it came with is not. if want to do modification. need to change the gearbox as well.

then it would just be totally pointless and worthless, starting over again from 30 years ago. whats the point of designing this p3-21a, campros, satria neos then?

on a side note: I personally think the golf's strong points are the turbocharged and supercharged engine and the DSG gearbox, nothing else. a fiesta's handling beats the golf anytime

wow, 1.6 turbo = 2L performance?
for the premium model, will it comes with leather seats? or did i missed it from the 1st post.

so proton interior is European style, so the signal lever is always on the left side of steering wheel?

Fiesta beats golf. Maybe.

1.4 golf or golf gti. No. Lol

So far never seen a fast fiesta so i dunno.

proton got variable valve timing, on intake and exhaust cams btw..

4b10 and 4b11, of course.

it is equivalent to toyota dual vvti

I personally think golf's strong point is suddenly a big group of fanboys jumping on the bandwagon... its a butt ugly car

Must thank topgear and fifth gear lo.....

Dont blame them.. to them its a cheap entry level car.. liek our Myvi cheap and decent power.

To us here.. it suddenly become a mid level luxury marque...

well i'll call it conventional and a utilitarian design..
translation: ugly and boring

@turbocharged: ever heard of Monsieur Ken Block? hahaha..

continuous is just a TERM they use ..

wat ever VVT .. all function the same geh ..

at different LOAD , different RPM ... the ECU will read the VVT (or wat ever map) .. and advance/retard the timing according to the situation ..
if u ask me in terms of logic .. it is consider CONTINUOUS as well .. as ur RPM is not STUCK in the same position and ur LOAD is not the same when u are driving ma... so the valve vary depends on situation and continously till u OFF ur engine lo

he is not driving a fiesta.

he is driving a monster fiesta lol.

nope proton's vvt in cfe is CVVT

Thanks for the info.

Isn't there are another kind of VVT or VVL systems that are not continuous? Such as the VTEC, the older MIVEC and Proton's CPS that swap cams on preset RPMs. Hence the term "continuous" to differentiate between these systems and the continuous ones.

Toyota's VVTi, CFE's VVT and Daihatsu's DVVT are continuous, though, AFAIK.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 16 2012, 02:01 PM

Seat Material – Water repelent fabric. Seat boleh fold 60:40

so we not getting leather seat?

i think they already improved it..its just not seen only
as far as i know..all along campro the least only can use 10w-40
manual also recommend 10w-40
and many said 10w-30 is not good and too light for campro
but since FLX, i dn't know what they did, but campro is recommended to use 10w-30 since

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Added on February 16, 2012, 2:10 pmtheir interior is always follow european style
signal lever is always on the left side all along

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 16 2012, 02:10 PM

those are not call VVT ..
vvt stands for variable valve timing ... it actually advance the valve open or retard the valve open ..

VTEC, MIVEC (The older days MIVEC, not the current Lancer one) .. CPS ..
those are call LIFT ... the technology is totally different.. it has a 2ndary cam loop .. when it engage.. the valve will open base on the 2ndary loop. its like changing cam instantly .. normally these cam (2nd cam) have higher loops .. means the valve open DEEPER .. allow more air to go in .. it does not have the capability to change the timing instantly .. but it will base on the timing on the 2nd cam ..

if u know about HIGH cams.... bad for idling .. got for high end power ... VTEC, OLD MIVEC, CPS .. is like the engine will switch instantly to the 2ndary HIGH Cam at certain RPM .. tahts why u hear ppl says VTEC KICK IN ..

summarize .. VVT --> more to fuel saving
LIFT --> more to powar ...

Emm sorry I'll have to call you out on that.

VTEC and MIVEC are both variable valve timing systems, not valve lift.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIVEC

The first paragraph of each article pretty much sums it all up.

You're are right about CPS is variable valve lift.

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Added on February 16, 2012, 2:20 pmAnyway, from my research:

Early VVT systems are cam-switching systems, which means the engine will switch to different cams with different cam lobes based on a preset RPM.

New VVT are continuous, either through cam-phasing or adjusting the cam belt tension or some other obscured method. The point is it will continuously adjust the valve timing instead of switching cams are preset RPMs.

Just sharing, correct me if I am wrong

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 16 2012, 02:20 PM

"MIVEC was first introduced in 1992 in their 4G92 powerplant, a 1,597 cc naturally aspirated DOHC 16 valve straight-4.[2] At the time, the first generation of the system was named Mitsubishi Innovative Valve timing and lift Electronic Control"

again .. its a jargon only ... the naming ...
wat i trying to says is why VTEC and MIVEC older days are amazing .. is becoz of the LIFT ..

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Added on February 16, 2012, 2:26 pmThe newer days Mivec is ... Valve timing only ..

yes .. never vtec comes with both .. timing and lift ...
basically all vvt works continous ... the LIFT will only comes kicking on certain range .. (if the engine comes with the lift)

This post has been edited by K3nnYkl82: Feb 16 2012, 02:26 PM

Pls press ctrl+f to find the word "Lift" in the wiki vtec.

vtec involves lift.

1 paragraph is not enough to explain the whole technology.
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old mivec

MIVEC system provides both of these benefits by controlling valve timing and lift.

This post has been edited by turbocharged: Feb 16 2012, 02:28 PM