if cost wasn't a problem, they would have given the car the original tuah's tail light which is what everybody wants

Of course got people buy boring car, if not myvi wont be top selling model for years

only this girl knew whether P3-21A is the TUAH or not coz she stood besides the car... 


or this man... 


mengimbas kembali kenangan lalu...


but i prefer her more stood besides the car...

overheating problem, windows problem, errr..... what else?

if they plan to use

Drive it to believe it,

i'm sure they will fail.

man, they suck. ( from design to slogan)

Try this

Drive to believe.

another car which designers has spend almost all their effort on the front and suddenly they become dumbfark when it comes to designing the rear.

if add up become 100k u will still buy?
plus...tuah's tail light doesn't make sense
most "reality" taillight u see is on the side(left and right)
tuah's tail light is at the middle(the boot there)
in reality, most u see is tail light is at the side...at abit at the boot there is the reflector
tuah's tail light is from the left across to the right...like a bridge
and its black all over..where's the signal..lol
how much to replace it?...how difficult is it to replace it?

Sure factors like mould machine, resin, failure part n bla,bla,bla been considered. Y make complex part when simple part r less hassle to produce. 

But I agree, current tail light r not my favor also

as cool as BMW is...as expensive as BMW is
their design still remain like this

side tail light with the ones attached to the boot is the reflector/reverse light
if its so cheap/so easy to produce...thn u better apply a position in proton and we'll wait for u to do your magic

Those lamps...dunno how many thousand bucks apiece...

That being said, there are cheap way to do things too. Like the tail lamp in the Tuah concept, sure Proton can do it cheaply. Question is how long is it gonna last, how reliable it is, and how soon will it fall off and kill the motorcyclist behind your car. As it is, Proton still can't make sure the bootlids on their cars can close properly.

You'll care when you need to replace them because they were poorly made.

Also, changing one part also affects other parts, ie: in order to make a lamp on the bootlid, you will have to design the bootlid with mounting points for the lamp, as well as places to route the wiring which may interfere with other parts on the bootlid, or even on the chassis itself, and then you have to worry about water leaking into the boot or the lamp because of gaps etc.etc. Of course, this is just a hypothetical example of how one minor thing can cause alot of headache.

So in the end it's not only about manufacturing one part, but a design choices that could cause the overall production cost to increase because of a fancy lamp.

But I'm not an engineer, so what do I know?

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Added on February 22, 2012, 1:33 pm

I am having some brake and door rubber problems with my brand new Saga, and I'm seeing lot's of niggling QC problem with Proton's current line of products eg. rattling interiors, bootlids that are hard to close etc. etc. which you will no doubt see when you visit their SCs.

So I am talking about Proton, not China.

yes, simply put, proton does not have the R&D capability to make anything further than an entry level car.

we have gone pass the age which function over form. design and practicality can come together.

your point on the second paragraph is all about ----------> industrial design/ car design.

no, in modern world, designer doesnt just use a pencil to draw it out. they use computer programs, and they work with engineers to make it happen, thats why we no longer have boxy cars. if we're still worrring about boot lit and lamp will cause water leakage, means proton wasted 25 years doing nothing.

thats why, if wanna buy, buy rebadge car, jap thought of everything already.

but still, i think this p3-21 looks quite good, and the rear light, lets wait until the actual car comes out.

No worries    Just sharing.

I agree that QC problem stems from the assembly line, but don't forget those lousy vendors.