QUOTE(jetpacker @ Feb 16 2012, 07:17 PM)
So who is better driver? Taxi driver or mikka shoes maker?Full P3-21A Specs and Info!
Full P3-21A Specs and Info!
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Feb 16 2012, 09:30 PM
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Feb 16 2012, 09:59 PM
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surely 6-speed CVT with turbo-charged CFE
& priced at max RM75k? |
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Feb 16 2012, 10:00 PM
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CFE is paired with 7-speed CVT with pedal shifters.
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Feb 16 2012, 10:07 PM
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Feb 16 2012, 10:24 PM
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Feb 16 2012, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Feb 16 2012, 09:24 PM) they did buy a few units of supercharger to test superchargers are a whole new story compared to bolt on turbos. my guess would be that the campro can not withstand the supercharging. or that the reliability of the engine is drastically reduced with the supercharger..no news abt it until now last time said gonna use in satria neo well...maybe? it fail?...no one knows twin charge...the engine can tahan or not oh?..not any engine can be supercharge the fact that european engine uses twin charger...well...their engine are known to be not as reliable as japanese engine but they're famous for POWER id rather take power and drivability over reliability and 2ndhand value though.. which sadly is what the majority malaysian car buyers are |
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Feb 16 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 16 2012, 10:52 PM) superchargers are a whole new story compared to bolt on turbos. my guess would be that the campro can not withstand the supercharging. or that the reliability of the engine is drastically reduced with the supercharger.. this means you should buy used bmw!!id rather take power and drivability over reliability and 2ndhand value though.. which sadly is what the majority malaysian car buyers are |
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Feb 16 2012, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 16 2012, 10:52 PM) superchargers are a whole new story compared to bolt on turbos. my guess would be that the campro can not withstand the supercharging. or that the reliability of the engine is drastically reduced with the supercharger.. maybe the old campro cannot tahan but they did upgrade/improve the campro lately..thats why now campro recommend 10w-30 oil...last time is 10w-40id rather take power and drivability over reliability and 2ndhand value though.. which sadly is what the majority malaysian car buyers are not any can be supercharge ...well, have to leave that to the R&D department..let them do the job well...if u want power, u can always go for european brand, their engine always known for power but not for reliability proton have to remain reliability cuz if not many will bomb proton say why last only XXXKM because proton's customer target is low and middle income..not high income so reliability is very important for them, cuz they can't afford the engine being broken(very expensive to fix/replace) 2 thing proton insist on reliability which is the engine and GB...this 2 combine made up the 70-80% of the car price |
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Feb 16 2012, 11:04 PM
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Feb 16 2012, 11:23 PM
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Feb 17 2012, 12:43 AM
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actually old campro and most average cars can tahan Supercharge more than turbo.
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Feb 17 2012, 01:19 AM
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QUOTE(alwjmonster @ Feb 16 2012, 07:03 PM) sick of 1.6... proton everything also 1.6 laugh my ass out.. LMFAO!! The most beautiful part of a car is the emblem.. if its with 458 body looks with the "proton" emblem, still the ugliest car ever. Agree? aahahahaha i guess majority would agree me so. QUOTE(jetpacker @ Feb 16 2012, 07:17 PM) not mechanic lah, just motorsport design student that study about how to design a vehicle.Added on February 17, 2012, 1:22 am QUOTE(kadajawi @ Feb 16 2012, 11:04 PM) I'm your father, turbo. im on your side, the mk3 and 4 is ugly as hell.. Why do you ask? Golf I and II, especially the I are classics. But after that... only the VI looks decent again. This post has been edited by AlexLee277: Feb 17 2012, 01:22 AM |
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Feb 17 2012, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(e36.hartge @ Feb 16 2012, 10:02 PM) 7 forward "virtual" gear..ala altisAdded on February 17, 2012, 9:29 am QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 16 2012, 10:52 PM) superchargers are a whole new story compared to bolt on turbos. my guess would be that the campro can not withstand the supercharging. or that the reliability of the engine is drastically reduced with the supercharger.. from other forum, those superchgr is for neo.id rather take power and drivability over reliability and 2ndhand value though.. which sadly is what the majority malaysian car buyers are This post has been edited by farghmee: Feb 17 2012, 09:29 AM |
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Feb 17 2012, 09:40 AM
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Feb 17 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Feb 17 2012, 12:43 AM) actually old campro and most average cars can tahan Supercharge more than turbo. er. you sure? |
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Feb 17 2012, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE(alwjmonster @ Feb 16 2012, 07:03 PM) sick of 1.6... proton everything also 1.6 laugh my ass out.. LMFAO!! oii... nok kutuk proton pun agak2 la..The most beautiful part of a car is the emblem.. if its with 458 body looks with the "proton" emblem, still the ugliest car ever. Agree? aahahahaha i guess majority would agree me so. yg teruk kita kutuk la, tapi jgn sampai terlepas pandang benda yg bagus have u heard of the downsizing trend? even mercs are using puny 1.8 engines now... bmw is playing a catch-up game with the new F30.. plus the introduction of new 4-cyl engines for the F10. |
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Feb 17 2012, 04:41 PM
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Back to the p3-21A.. it is a shame that they didn't go with the concept design for mass production.
when it came out i thought proton finally did something amazing ala korean cars nowadays. but they had to go and tone it down and make it all weird.. |
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Feb 17 2012, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(jw_92 @ Feb 17 2012, 04:41 PM) Back to the p3-21A.. it is a shame that they didn't go with the concept design for mass production. no one uses their concept car and mass produce itwhen it came out i thought proton finally did something amazing ala korean cars nowadays. but they had to go and tone it down and make it all weird.. NO ONE...concept will always stay as concept, they will never produce it the concept design is only designed for cool in mind only they never take cost, safety, JPJ regulation into consideration |
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