but new mivec comes with both...haha

This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 16 2012, 02:28 PM

OK, I was under the impression that both valve timing and lifting only engage at certain RPMs.

Sorry for any misinformation.

This post has been edited by dares: Feb 16 2012, 02:30 PM

that one 4J10/11 ... both .. but inlet only ..

its ok.

now i know vtec in wiki has 14 lift words

from my understanding, when the engine have valve lift automatically their timing oso altered..can see clearly using valve profile graph..that why older MIVEC and all vtec have both..however, vvt like vvt-i toyota can only altered the timing but not lift..still, iinm there are staging vvt which are not continous in old engine application which only have 2 or there diff timing which dedicated for certain rev band..for example 0 degree during 0 - 3000 rpm and 2 degree advance or retard for 3000-redline rpm, isit?

Trust me. A Golf GTI is not a cheap entry level car to most Germans. Those who buy it are relatively well off... (most would rather buy a Passat etc. when you can afford a GTI), the regular Golf... more common, yes, best selling car of any year, but entry level would probably be a small Hyundai, Toyota Aygo, VW Up, Renault Twingo, or at most a Polo/Fiesta/Corsa/Clio (Polo being the premium one). Probably you'd buy a second hand car though.

Actually the Golf VI is a big improvement over the V, IV and III. Only I and II were good looking cars, after that... at least the VI looks decent. It has to be a bit bland looking to be suitable for the masses. (Also I think it's great for all the tuners who can actually improve on the design rather than making it uglier (i.e. the design can only be improved, with something like the last Fiesta it can only be ruined, as proven by the new Fiesta)). Just look at Toyotas. Most of them are bland and boring, look dated (at least I think the Golf VI looks modern and sharp).

@turbocharged: Fiesta ST and better yet RS, and of course the rally cars etc.

oh man, how young are you?

Back to p3-21a discussion can?

1 word nice

sick of 1.6... proton everything also 1.6 laugh my ass out.. LMFAO!!

The most beautiful part of a car is the emblem.. if its with 458 body looks with the "proton" emblem, still the ugliest car ever. Agree? aahahahaha i guess majority would agree me so.

1.6 la gooding.. roadtax cheap

ya...u so rich...u go buy 6.2L aventador la
roadtax very cheap only ma...few thousand
insurance also quite cheap...few hundred thousand only

who design the engine btw, mechanic?LOL

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Added on February 16, 2012, 7:44 pmmost manufacture start to downsizing now, where have u been before?just came out from cave
look around bro, 1.4TSI and BMW 1.6T prince engine used in wide range of car segment..towards greener environment

This post has been edited by tonitoni: Feb 16 2012, 07:44 PM

why not put the 1.3 campro and put supercharger + turbo...sure the fc will be good..or if just put the turbo,then put inside persona sure can get better sales..

cost... and reliable....
u know how complex is the twin charge engine??
u ask proton to produce twin charge?
turbo already one big step for proton....
now need wait years to check the reliability

This post has been edited by nzh0920: Feb 16 2012, 07:54 PM

1.6 i believe was used because of the road tax structure in malaysia
although i agree a 1.2 or 1.4 should be looked into too.. the 1.3 has alot of potential i think..

Proton: keep the CFE paired to the CVT if 205nm is because of the limitations of the gearbox, but give us more from the turbo+manual gearbox

He's just here to bash Proton la. Notice he said any car put the Proton badge will also become ugly?

ooo like tat one...

i learn bout tires.. so i tukang pasang tayar??

they did buy a few units of supercharger to test
no news abt it until now
last time said gonna use in satria neo
well...maybe? it fail?...no one knows
twin charge...the engine can tahan or not oh?..not any engine can be supercharge
the fact that european engine uses twin charger...well...their engine are known to be not as reliable as japanese engine
but they're famous for POWER

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Feb 16 2012, 09:25 PM