since Prius C has lunching in Japan, when will it come to Malaysia?
any inside news of UMW ?
Prius C, coming to Malaysia
Prius C, coming to Malaysia
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Dec 28 2011, 09:14 PM, updated 14y ago
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since Prius C has lunching in Japan, when will it come to Malaysia?
any inside news of UMW ? |
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Jan 1 2012, 11:52 PM
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from the source below, it says:
" It is now confirmed that Toyota Australia will be introducing the new Toyota Prius C at the first half of 2012. Hence, it is making more sense that UMW Toyota Motor will be introducing it about the same in Malaysia. " http://www.fastmotoring.com/index.php/2011...t-half-of-2012/ 2012 is beginning to get more interesting.. just make sure the price is right when it comes to malaysia. ^^ |
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Jan 1 2012, 11:59 PM
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If the Prius C is selling 100K below, I'm pretty sure it will be in my short list.
The Prius C selling price in Taiwan is about NT$870K ~ RM89K and will be available in March there. |
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Jan 2 2012, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 1 2012, 11:59 PM) If the Prius C is selling 100K below, I'm pretty sure it will be in my short list. with the tax examption, it looks promising that it will go below 100k.. i would say this will b better option than insight..The Prius C selling price in Taiwan is about NT$870K ~ RM89K and will be available in March there. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 2 2012, 12:05 AM) with the tax examption, it looks promising that it will go below 100k.. i would say this will b better option than insight.. thats some wishful thinking there. Knowing UMW Toyota, they would definitely price is higher to ensure their other models are not affected.Btw Prius quality in terms of fittings and plastic is much better than the insight by a huge amount This post has been edited by 779364: Jan 2 2012, 12:16 AM |
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Jan 4 2012, 10:00 PM
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Pre order going on?
Singapore are taking pre order now. |
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Jan 4 2012, 10:20 PM
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More Prius?
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Jan 4 2012, 11:33 PM
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Hmm if the price is less than RM100k, i will take it over Insight !
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this thing can run with full ev mode..i think it wont be cheaper/near the insight price..
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My own opinion, I find the current Prius nicer O.o
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QUOTE(megat89 @ Jan 4 2012, 11:39 PM) please check some source from the internet..Honda Insight base model 1.3L + not so clever IMA - 1.8million yen before tax. Higher spec 2million yen before tax http://www.honda.co.jp/INSIGHT/webcatalog/type/g/ Prius C 1.5L + abit more clever hybrid aka synergy drive base price - 1.69million yen, up to 1.85million yen http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/NewsHea...ua-Prius-c.aspx Read the bottom of motortrader article "would make it cheaper than The Honda Insight" This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jan 5 2012, 01:15 AM |
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With the 10% sales tax if it is selling at dugong price it will affect the survival of dugong so (base line model in Japan is 70k). Probably it will get the high specs over here, price will be 100k or more if UMW is greedy.
Hybrid car is not the future in auto industry, Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle is the ultimate answer. Hybrid is just a transition stuff, after that it is outdated (guess 10 years later?) By that time your Toyota also sell 10k no ppl want |
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I think UMW will price Prius C at least Vios 1.5G price + 10K, which is around 97K, this is to protect Vios, but even with this price, Honda insight will have hard time to sell.
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QUOTE(Yeapy @ Jan 5 2012, 01:16 AM) With the 10% sales tax if it is selling at dugong price it will affect the survival of dugong so (base line model in Japan is 70k). Probably it will get the high specs over here, price will be 100k or more if UMW is greedy. if they price it slightly lower or on par with Insight, its still a better deal than HondaHybrid car is not the future in auto industry, Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle is the ultimate answer. Hybrid is just a transition stuff, after that it is outdated (guess 10 years later?) By that time your Toyota also sell 10k no ppl want if prius c out sale dugong, just bring in more prius c and lesser dugong la.. Hydrogen Fuel Cell is a failure project... it cost more energy to make Hydrogen than Hydrogen generate energy.. wonder y it never went popular until now after so many years of research? how much energy needed to produce hydrogen from electrolysis? how much algae you need to produce hydrogen for 1 car? with electric cars kicking off, no automobile manufacturer will b looking back at Hydrogen |
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QUOTE(Yeapy @ Jan 5 2012, 01:16 AM) With the 10% sales tax if it is selling at dugong price it will affect the survival of dugong so (base line model in Japan is 70k). Probably it will get the high specs over here, price will be 100k or more if UMW is greedy. Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle will need at least 20 years to go, hydrogen refill stations will have big impact to the current petrol station, those oil company will not happy to see it.Hybrid car is not the future in auto industry, Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle is the ultimate answer. Hybrid is just a transition stuff, after that it is outdated (guess 10 years later?) By that time your Toyota also sell 10k no ppl want If there is natural gas fuel cell vehicle, it will be feasible in near term. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 5 2012, 01:25 AM) Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle will need at least 20 years to go, hydrogen refill stations will have big impact to the current petrol station, those oil company will not happy to see it. yes... it might take 20years to get hydrogen efficient enough for automobile.. but after 20 years, the industry might even further perfected electric car technology and hydrogen has once again having hard time to keep up with the pace..If there is natural gas fuel cell vehicle, it will be feasible in near term. near future i would foresee diesel hybrid or biodiesel hybrid, just to make the oil company happy and making our wallet happy... even better milage and lesser CO2. |
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 5 2012, 01:25 AM) if they price it slightly lower or on par with Insight, its still a better deal than Honda Technology advancement is something that can really surprise you. 10 years back we were so happy to hapy a colour screen handphone, now it is all adroid & apple which has a processor faster than a pentium III. Google this word "Toyota Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle" then u can see Toyota itself is planning to launch FCV in 2015, give it another few more years to be mass produced and bring the cost down. if prius c out sale dugong, just bring in more prius c and lesser dugong la.. Hydrogen Fuel Cell is a failure project... it cost more energy to make Hydrogen than Hydrogen generate energy.. wonder y it never went popular until now after so many years of research? how much energy needed to produce hydrogen from electrolysis? how much algae you need to produce hydrogen for 1 car? with electric cars kicking off, no automobile manufacturer will b looking back at Hydrogen I believe the FCV technology is there, there was a conspiracy theory saying that those petrol giant are blocking or even car manufacturer pay a high price to stop it, who knows, time will tell. I think our automotive policy will failed in the end trying to attract car manufacturer to assemble hybrid car over here, coz they themselves know it is not the answer to the future. |
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QUOTE(Yeapy @ Jan 5 2012, 01:52 AM) Technology advancement is something that can really surprise you. 10 years back we were so happy to hapy a colour screen handphone, now it is all adroid & apple which has a processor faster than a pentium III. Google this word "Toyota Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle" then u can see Toyota itself is planning to launch FCV in 2015, give it another few more years to be mass produced and bring the cost down. not only toyota, honda has been doing that for years.. many pilot projects but couldnt take off in mass production... I believe the FCV technology is there, there was a conspiracy theory saying that those petrol giant are blocking or even car manufacturer pay a high price to stop it, who knows, time will tell. I think our automotive policy will failed in the end trying to attract car manufacturer to assemble hybrid car over here, coz they themselves know it is not the answer to the future. a single product cant take off if there is no infrastructure to support... it need to years to perfect all short comings.. |
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anything that gonna threaten the petrol price from dropping..... so a lot of those high tech stuff claiming tat can replace fuel are dead before they even see the light.
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QUOTE(Yeapy @ Jan 5 2012, 01:52 AM) Technology advancement is something that can really surprise you. 10 years back we were so happy to hapy a colour screen handphone, now it is all adroid & apple which has a processor faster than a pentium III. Google this word "Toyota Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle" then u can see Toyota itself is planning to launch FCV in 2015, give it another few more years to be mass produced and bring the cost down. actually battery technology is not moving forward as fast as the rest of the technology. I believe the FCV technology is there, there was a conspiracy theory saying that those petrol giant are blocking or even car manufacturer pay a high price to stop it, who knows, time will tell. I think our automotive policy will failed in the end trying to attract car manufacturer to assemble hybrid car over here, coz they themselves know it is not the answer to the future. look at the iphone 4 now and the nokia 3210. they are both limited by battery size. the conspiracy of oil is true, but not by oil giants. its by countries. why dont you ask malaysia to sponsor cars using only EV, no they wont, because we are oil producing country. If US/CHina is not encouraging it, you can bet not many ppl can do/research better than them. the only advantage country that are not oil producing is japan. thus they are willing to invest in battery,hybrid,EV and so on. Malaysia,US, germany,russia, uk, france, taiwan, china. middle east no need to mention. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil-producing_states so, now you know why nobody wanna invest too much in battery that will kill petrol price? |
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Jan 5 2012, 11:36 AM
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i got a SA taking booking now. Any 1 interested pls pm me.
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Oh okay..
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looks nice... just like the Yaris....
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QUOTE(bryanhee @ Jan 5 2012, 04:47 AM) It will go over RM100k if they sell them at RM69k in Japan. UMW need more money for their pet food. Like other said it will kill the Vios if it price too low. UMW will be the new Taxman for hybrid car. I can bet on it for the price going over RM100k. |
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The first thing u should ask the salesman is not the price, is the name of the car will be change to Ah Hock, Ah Beng instead or Ah Kua
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Jan 6 2012, 01:16 AM
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This car is small like Myvi only
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couldnt find any picture of the car boot... interested to see the boot size with the battery pack...
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My bro who work in toyota pj already test drive the car.... Prius c orange color....
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if below 100k, and launch in msia soon...wouldnt mind to test drive or book one... ^^
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can you believe this?
Since its engine size is under 2000 cc, it would qualify for duty-free importation into Malaysia so there’s a strong chance that we’ll see it in UMW Toyota Motor showrooms as well. Since import and excise duties are waived, the price in Japan should be indicative of the sort of price level the Prius c might have in Malaysia - which would make it cheaper than the Honda Insight. You can read more here: http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/NewsHea...ua-Prius-c.aspx |
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if cheaper than Insight then this car may sing song loh.... nice woh... another T brand car below 100k for the choices of public..... but since it carry the Hybrid thingy the interior will be a lot of plastic like its big bro Prius.
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QUOTE(rahtid @ Jan 6 2012, 02:58 PM) can you believe this? i think UMW didn't want to make the same mistake when they sold Yaris here.Since its engine size is under 2000 cc, it would qualify for duty-free importation into Malaysia so there’s a strong chance that we’ll see it in UMW Toyota Motor showrooms as well. Since import and excise duties are waived, the price in Japan should be indicative of the sort of price level the Prius c might have in Malaysia - which would make it cheaper than the Honda Insight. You can read more here: http://www.motortrader.com.my/Cars/NewsHea...ua-Prius-c.aspx |
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Yaris was too expensive.... damn in Taiwan i can get one at RM40-50k depending on spec but in Malaysia.... the price.... only someone mad or rich will buy it.
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Jan 5 2012, 10:11 AM) actually battery technology is not moving forward as fast as the rest of the technology. agreed with your comment .look at the iphone 4 now and the nokia 3210. they are both limited by battery size. the conspiracy of oil is true, but not by oil giants. its by countries. why dont you ask malaysia to sponsor cars using only EV, no they wont, because we are oil producing country. If US/CHina is not encouraging it, you can bet not many ppl can do/research better than them. the only advantage country that are not oil producing is japan. thus they are willing to invest in battery,hybrid,EV and so on. Malaysia,US, germany,russia, uk, france, taiwan, china. middle east no need to mention. see here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil-producing_states so, now you know why nobody wanna invest too much in battery that will kill petrol price? except countries like Japan has started to use alternative energy beside oil for some time. As you can notice the first generation of prius and now with fourth generation of prius we could notice some much improvement in performance and battery technology. |
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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Jan 6 2012, 04:20 PM) agreed with your comment . The only problem with hybrids & ev cars it's extensive use of rare earth minerals to create the motor & batteries, which isn't eco & soon to be costly as the demand rises. China is currently the largest supplier of rare earth mineral.except countries like Japan has started to use alternative energy beside oil for some time. As you can notice the first generation of prius and now with fourth generation of prius we could notice some much improvement in performance and battery technology. Toyota engineers is coming up with motor which has no rare earth mineral being used. |
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jan 6 2012, 04:38 PM) The only problem with hybrids & ev cars it's extensive use of rare earth minerals to create the motor & batteries, which isn't eco & soon to be costly as the demand rises. China is currently the largest supplier of rare earth mineral. because now china has limited the export of rare earth, so, japan again has to think of another way. Toyota engineers is coming up with motor which has no rare earth mineral being used. US and Australia have a lot of rare earth, but its just cheaper to import from china |
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hig unlikely it will come m'sia wit <rm100k
i believe it would b price at altis range rm105k-110k as toyota has demand in chinese middle age market so don't 4get that no matter wat price ppl still go gaga over it n umw is smart enuff 2 never price down its market it will go head on wit crz judgin from the market now |
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I think its direct competitor will be Honda Jazz hybrid, so they must price it correctly
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 6 2012, 05:18 PM) hig unlikely it will come m'sia wit <rm100k prius C will be priced cheaper than insight base model in japan by 100,000yen despite having larger engine displacement.. they are trying to market it as the cheapest compact hybrid... they hav to blow honda if they wanna win in hybrid market..i believe it would b price at altis range rm105k-110k as toyota has demand in chinese middle age market so don't 4get that no matter wat price ppl still go gaga over it n umw is smart enuff 2 never price down its market it will go head on wit crz judgin from the market now |
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I think local UMW also need to do something for their hybrid market... Insight is dominating the electronic car in Malaysia now so this Prius c come out and snatch it back frm Honda.
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 7 2012, 12:51 PM) I was right on the money then! Never give any hope on lower price with UMW they don't do cheap. Only malaysia consumer put up with it lol. |
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Jan 7 2012, 08:32 PM) I was right on the money then! Never give any hope on lower price with UMW they don't do cheap. Only malaysia consumer put up with it lol. awesome~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Added on January 7, 2012, 8:38 pm QUOTE(IpohLad @ Jan 7 2012, 08:32 PM) I was right on the money then! Never give any hope on lower price with UMW they don't do cheap. Only malaysia consumer put up with it lol. awesome~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!This post has been edited by sentlon: Jan 7 2012, 08:38 PM |
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i heard its ard rm106k in sabah... open for booking now
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Wait and see... I looking forward to see ppl with this on the road
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 7 2012, 01:47 PM) Don't put your hope up matey! The fact will surface soon. Again it will go over rm100k, rm30k + extra for UMW bank account. UMW is the new taxman for hybrid car because they can lol.My fellow Malaysia brother & sister stop buying these hybrid from UMW they just taking a piss from normal consumer. Charge a premium price with a bog standard car. People do the calculation if UMW get the car from Toyota Japan for less than rm69k with sales tax of 10% it will cost no more than rm78k. It's the same story with the Prius its only worth rm92k they sell it for rm140k what a joker. |
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yea same i heard from pg toyota sales it's below 105k
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The Prius C will be priced at 103K in West Malaysia. A family member of mine just made a booking, internally of course
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Jan 8 2012, 01:54 AM) Don't put your hope up matey! The fact will surface soon. Again it will go over rm100k, rm30k + extra for UMW bank account. UMW is the new taxman for hybrid car because they can lol. Whats ur problem with toyota bro?i noticed ur constant post being excessively critical of them.theres so many choices out there if they sell it at the wrong price. Why bother keep screaming out "i was right all along!" ??My fellow Malaysia brother & sister stop buying these hybrid from UMW they just taking a piss from normal consumer. Charge a premium price with a bog standard car. People do the calculation if UMW get the car from Toyota Japan for less than rm69k with sales tax of 10% it will cost no more than rm78k. It's the same story with the Prius its only worth rm92k they sell it for rm140k what a joker. It gets really annoying when u find it really hard to find decent conversation on cars in FnF when it seems like all this tamak pricing and korea vs japan mentality dominates almost EVERY thread. Excessive pricing is nothing new in this country. Why keep screaming about it here? The logic of business is simple. MAXIMIZING profits. U know anyone who does business for minumum profit?im sure these MNC companies are not stupid.sell it too high,consumers run to ur competitors.sell it to low, u might get smaller return.its all about finding that balance. About the prius c, It should be fine if its within 5-7k of the insight coming with a 1.5 engine and a more established hybrid system.anything more than that would be suicide. This post has been edited by aztechx: Jan 8 2012, 10:47 AM |
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Jan 8 2012, 03:44 AM) Whats ur problem with toyota bro?i noticed ur constant post being excessively critical of them.theres so many choices out there if they sell it at the wrong price. Why bother keep screaming out "i was right all along!" ?? I have no problem with Toyota. I'm a toyota owner & fans. My problem is Malaysia distributor UMW. Toyota in the UK doing very well here because of competition.It gets really annoying when u find it really hard to find decent conversation on cars in FnF when it seems like all this tamak pricing and korea vs japan mentality dominates almost EVERY thread. Excessive pricing is nothing new in this country. Why keep screaming about it here? The logic of business is simple. MAXIMIZING profits. U know anyone who does business for minumum profit?im sure these MNC companies are not stupid.sell it too high,consumers run to ur competitors.sell it to low, u might get smaller return.its all about finding that balance. About the prius c, It should be fine if its within 5-7k of the insight coming with a 1.5 engine and a more established hybrid system.anything more than that would be suicide. I think you are a typical Malaysia attitude. You been rape & you cant be bother to report to the police or report to the police they cant be bother to investigate it. After a while the same person rape you again & again because they know they can get a way with it. Do you get my point? I'm sorry have to be voice it so harsh. Been a Malaysian I have the right to inform you guys how f**k you up. Thats what the forum is all about information, suggestion, discussion & voice your concern. Try to learn how the Libyan topple Colonel Gaddafi. PLEASE NOTE THAT I'M NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ENGAGE ANY VIOLET IN MALAYSIA. All you have to do is to stop buying they hybrid cars. Because they can do cheaper, a lot cheaper. They have no choice but to know they price down if no one buy them. Yes I do agree about your point about the profit. Do you & anyone else here care about UMW profit? Unless you are 1 of their employee or shareholder. I think we all care about our own bank balance than UMW profit. |
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Jan 8 2012, 03:38 PM) I have no problem with Toyota. I'm a toyota owner & fans. My problem is Malaysia distributor UMW. Toyota in the UK doing very well here because of competition. i do see your point. But think about it this way, for me the hybrid line ups like the prius, prius c and any upcoming hybrids are considered as a 'premium product'. The technology and probably the wow factor might be the reason why the Prius was initially priced at almost 200k before the tax exemption?isnt that too much for an altis-civic class of vehicle?googling how the prices are in the US toyota website, i noticed that the prius is priced between USD24-28k while the highest spec corolla 1.8 is only USD17k. So i think we are seeing about the same differences here. I think you are a typical Malaysia attitude. You been rape & you cant be bother to report to the police or report to the police they cant be bother to investigate it. After a while the same person rape you again & again because they know they can get a way with it. Do you get my point? I'm sorry have to be voice it so harsh. Been a Malaysian I have the right to inform you guys how f**k you up. Thats what the forum is all about information, suggestion, discussion & voice your concern. Try to learn how the Libyan topple Colonel Gaddafi. PLEASE NOTE THAT I'M NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ENGAGE ANY VIOLET IN MALAYSIA. All you have to do is to stop buying they hybrid cars. Because they can do cheaper, a lot cheaper. They have no choice but to know they price down if no one buy them. Yes I do agree about your point about the profit. Do you & anyone else here care about UMW profit? Unless you are 1 of their employee or shareholder. I think we all care about our own bank balance than UMW profit. about the profit part,i couldnt care less.im just explaining to you based on logic why a company wont just reduce prices.to put it simply, imagine that you have to sell 100 curry puffs in a day. Sell it at RM1 or RM2 per piece, u still end up selling 100 curry puffs. This is why i mentioned from the companies point of view why they maximize profits in such way, and yes, we as consumers might suffer. But, you cant ask people to stop buying the curry puffs when everywhere else, the curry puffs are selling at the same price!ill refer to the insight here, priced at about 100k compared to the Prius C which might sell at probably 105-110k no?Does that mean everyone else is cutting throat here? A more viable option if we were to complain about the car prices being excessive,is to stop buying cars all together unless we are opting for a national car which i honestly feel is the few cars available selling at a 'reasonable' price. The nature of our countries automotive industry is already sick enough which im sure alot of us would agree. The tax structure is something im most curious to understand as up till now, i do not get why the prius is selling at 127k in langkawi but about 140k here. and how naza could enjoy the tax structure of a national car. My point is that I feel the 'rapist' here are the government and not the automotive industry players. but we'll leave that for another discussion. About the Prius c, it will probably be a vios-city like vehicle, the way the current prius is an altis-civic-like vehicle. Theres no way we will see UMW price the Prius c too close to the vios, and they cant price it too close to the current Prius as well. which is why would find the price range of 100-110k max acceptable. BUT, should they price it below 100k, im sure i wont be complaining. Cheers |
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Jan 8 2012, 03:38 PM) I have no problem with Toyota. I'm a toyota owner & fans. My problem is Malaysia distributor UMW. Toyota in the UK doing very well here because of competition. Bro, there is always a willing buyer, willing seller. I think you are a typical Malaysia attitude. You been rape & you cant be bother to report to the police or report to the police they cant be bother to investigate it. After a while the same person rape you again & again because they know they can get a way with it. Do you get my point? I'm sorry have to be voice it so harsh. Been a Malaysian I have the right to inform you guys how f**k you up. Thats what the forum is all about information, suggestion, discussion & voice your concern. Try to learn how the Libyan topple Colonel Gaddafi. PLEASE NOTE THAT I'M NOT ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ENGAGE ANY VIOLET IN MALAYSIA. All you have to do is to stop buying they hybrid cars. Because they can do cheaper, a lot cheaper. They have no choice but to know they price down if no one buy them. Yes I do agree about your point about the profit. Do you & anyone else here care about UMW profit? Unless you are 1 of their employee or shareholder. I think we all care about our own bank balance than UMW profit. Boycott UMW Prius is not a doable way, if you think this way, you also have to boycott all non-national cars, because the corrupted government make more money when you buy non-national cars. buying hybrid cars is giving money to UMW C-executive pocket money instead of BN politician pocket money. I would give UMW money rather than giving to BN, at least you get the premium quality CBU cars, not the cheap low quality CKU non-national cars. |
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jan 6 2012, 05:18 PM) hig unlikely it will come m'sia wit <rm100k But reading the CRZ thread.. the owners are callign it a SPORTSCAR wor.... how can Prius compare leh?i believe it would b price at altis range rm105k-110k as toyota has demand in chinese middle age market so don't 4get that no matter wat price ppl still go gaga over it n umw is smart enuff 2 never price down its market it will go head on wit crz judgin from the market now |
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Jan 9 2012, 02:39 PM
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Toyota Prius C akan dilancarkan di Malaysia, harga dianggarkan RM103,990.00!
www.arenakereta.com |
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Jan 9 2012, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Jan 8 2012, 05:36 PM) Bro, there is always a willing buyer, willing seller. hey you are right!!!!!!!Boycott UMW Prius is not a doable way, if you think this way, you also have to boycott all non-national cars, because the corrupted government make more money when you buy non-national cars. buying hybrid cars is giving money to UMW C-executive pocket money instead of BN politician pocket money. I would give UMW money rather than giving to BN, at least you get the premium quality CBU cars, not the cheap low quality CKU non-national cars. mercedes benz charging ppl 800k for a pahang made S class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i rather buy this car , made in japan, not from pahang !!!!! |
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Jan 9 2012, 02:58 PM
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Got price list from Toyota Malaysia HERE
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oh shit... so end up the price is still high up.... if they put the price at 80-90k i think it will sell like hot chocolate. But this price.... i think it will still sell but not as hot chocolate.
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QUOTE(alpha0201 @ Jan 9 2012, 03:17 PM) then they can shift down the spec of vios just sell the E and J spec enough lah.... and honestly most of the Vios i see (more than 60%) is J spec one.UMW dun have any category to play with in the 90-100k section mah.... they can fill it with this to play with Nissan Latio, and Honda Insight. So much fun snatching ppl market share. |
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QUOTE(valentinonkk @ Jan 9 2012, 02:58 PM) haha nobody fucuk see your link 7 airbags, RM103,990 estimated price from www.toyota.com.my Toyota Malaysia. |
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QUOTE(8431 @ Jan 9 2012, 03:35 PM) haha nobody fucuk see your link i saw the link. the price is nicely slot in between vios & altis.7 airbags, RM103,990 estimated price from www.toyota.com.my Toyota Malaysia. QUOTE(0300078 @ Jan 9 2012, 03:26 PM) then they can shift down the spec of vios just sell the E and J spec enough lah.... and honestly most of the Vios i see (more than 60%) is J spec one. from a business POV, no way umw gonna shift down the spec especially when the model has been selling well & certainly won't 2 same segment model with the same price. It's marketing suicide & salesman's nightmare.UMW dun have any category to play with in the 90-100k section mah.... they can fill it with this to play with Nissan Latio, and Honda Insight. So much fun snatching ppl market share. |
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Jan 9 2012, 05:23 PM
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for that kinda spec.....103k is pretty reasonable IMO.
for those who wishing UMW to price it between 80k-90k, its unreasonable from business sense.vios confirm tak laku |
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Jan 9 2012, 10:17 PM
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104k for a fully spec CBU from Japan...and not to mention a model just launched in Japan barely few weeks ago and now launching in Malaysia !!
Its a very reasonable price to pay for a FULLY Hybrid....and ONLY if you're into Hybrid. Otherwise there's so many other non-Hybrid choices for that price. Honda Insight = Soft Hybrid Prius = Full Hybrid This post has been edited by raoul: Jan 9 2012, 10:21 PM |
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as long as there's AP you can forget about seeing new prius C at 90k or less
you need to remember that the number of AP UMW has is limited if the price the car low, they will not be able to fulfill the demand |
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Jan 10 2012, 09:22 AM
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Any reason insight can sell now? I see this car a clear winner.... Parallel + series hybrid instead of the insight series hybrid..
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any idea when is the launch date? just registered my interest via UMW's website. think this will go head to head with the facelifted 1.5 Insight instead of the 1.3.
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is it just me or does the car looks fugly...
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QUOTE(tunasandwich @ Jan 10 2012, 10:59 AM) That's the price you have to pay for getting a hybrid. This post has been edited by kadajawi: Jan 10 2012, 01:31 PM |
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What is the dimension for this car..any detail?
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Jan 10 2012, 02:54 PM
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the rear seat r so small.... guess it is the same as Yaris.
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lets have insight vs prius c comparison
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Ok...on paper
Prius C petrol engine 1.5L (73ps, 11.3kg-m) is less powerful than Insight 1.3 (88ps, 12.3kg-m), however Prius C electric motor (61ps, 17.2kg-m) is far more powerful than Insight (14ps, 8kg-m). Both car has similar wheelbase (2550mm in length) & width but Prius is 40cm shorter than insight. Prius is 61kg lighter but fuel capacity is 4L lesser. That's on paper anyway. economy wise, have to ask pro. This post has been edited by alpha0201: Jan 10 2012, 04:54 PM |
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Jan 10 2012, 05:08 PM
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Insight bigger legroom
Prius C bigger battery Insight 2 airbags Prius C 7 airbags Insight boot 408liter Prius C boot 260liter As long as its greener, its good... |
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Jan 10 2012, 05:21 PM
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260L of boot space...quite alot of batteries in there to power 61ps electric motor.
People gonna use this weakness to bash soon. |
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Jan 10 2012, 05:23 PM
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Insight use wat type battery? Think Prius C still use NiMH....
Fuel Economy.. The Insight are no way near to the Original Prius with 1.8 Engine... |
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Anyhow i think its not suitable for small family with 1-2 kids. No place to bring the stroller around.
Good for single or as a 2nd car. Added on January 10, 2012, 5:49 pm QUOTE(BuFung @ Jan 10 2012, 05:23 PM) Insight use wat type battery? Think Prius C still use NiMH.... Insight average @ 19km/l, Prius 1.8 average @ 21km/l, real world driving.Fuel Economy.. The Insight are no way near to the Original Prius with 1.8 Engine... This post has been edited by watonk: Jan 10 2012, 05:49 PM |
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When will be available over here in Malaysia?
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Jan 11 2012, 09:22 PM
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At Avanza launching press conference, UMW mention next month launch Prius C.
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expensive i must say
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when will umw toyota launch prius C in malaysia..?
i think even if book early the waiting list must be damn long.......T_T |
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Feb 10 2012, 12:10 AM
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More technical detail on Prius C
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Feb 16 2012, 10:14 PM
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For those interested, yesterday my SA told me that I can get the Prius C by March (already booked at Jan), and the price has been reduced to 97k+ (OTR I guessed).
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Feb 17 2012, 08:11 AM
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Had an sms from a friendly Toyota SA, Prius C gonna launch on 24th Feb n OTR will cost about rm97K.
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hohoho already here in malaysia than
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So is cheaper than the estimated. Nice price....
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Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode.
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM) Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode. ECO mode is meant to drive quitely and slowly like driving in the residential area, don't expect power from eco mode. I think most people like hybrid car do not really care the car should behave like a performance car, instead, being green and fuel economic are the first priority. Toyota hybrid is better than Honda is from the perspective of FC and technology, now adding the price is even cheaper than Insight, the only aspect that Prius C lose to Insight is the car size and perhaps interior. |
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hk sell hkd219000 so abt rm85000-90000 so make estimate how much local ...
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM) Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode. u drive in eco mode sure wont be feeling powerful mah.... it is meant to be eco.Want power u just step on the pedal harder n the ECO mode gone u get ur power. really want more power and FC better go get a Ford Focus TDCI |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM) Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode. may i ask a question? do u know what is the meaning of ECO mode? QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 17 2012, 07:51 PM) ECO mode is meant to drive quitely and slowly like driving in the residential area, don't expect power from eco mode. I think most people like hybrid car do not really care the car should behave like a performance car, instead, being green and fuel economic are the first priority. Toyota hybrid is better than Honda is from the perspective of FC and technology, now adding the price is even cheaper than Insight, the only aspect that Prius C lose to Insight is the car size and perhaps interior. |
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Feb 17 2012, 08:39 PM) u drive in eco mode sure wont be feeling powerful mah.... it is meant to be eco. clearly you haven't drive the 3 hybrids, Prius, CT200h and Insight.Want power u just step on the pedal harder n the ECO mode gone u get ur power. Added on February 17, 2012, 9:04 pm QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 17 2012, 08:46 PM) Before you start questioning, do you own hybrids or have you even driven a hybrid for at least 5000km?This post has been edited by lunchtime: Feb 17 2012, 09:04 PM |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 02:01 PM) clearly you haven't drive the 3 hybrids, Prius, CT200h and Insight. Why do you ask question about hybrid car pulling power? Dont even think about hybrid if you want pulling power. Eco mean saving fuel, its mean less power, its mean less CO2. If you want pulling power you might as well buy a 2.4ltr car.Added on February 17, 2012, 9:04 pm Before you start questioning, do you own hybrids or have you even driven a hybrid for at least 5000km? I've been driving hybrid since 2006 way before Malaysia start selling them. And yes I have driven all the above models and IMO the H. Insight is the shitest of all. I like the CT200h but I dont see the point of it thats why I bought the Gen 3 Prius. I do hope that this Prius C is as good as it bigger sibling. |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 09:01 PM) clearly you haven't drive the 3 hybrids, Prius, CT200h and Insight. wow...do i need to owned a hybrid vehicle to know/understand what ECO mode mean? i dont think so.... Added on February 17, 2012, 9:04 pm Before you start questioning, do you own hybrids or have you even driven a hybrid for at least 5000km? |
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 17 2012, 10:16 PM) wow...do i need to owned a hybrid vehicle to know/understand what ECO mode mean? i dont think so.... i did give you the option of driving one for at least 5000km. Have you driven one to understand how the ECO mode affect the car? Talk is cheap, everyone know ECO mode is to save petrol but I doubt seriously everyone can live driving ECO mode all the time on the Prius and CT200h, keep in mind both uses the 1.8 engine, imagine P C running a 1.5 engine, that's severely underpower. Don't believe me, go test before booking. |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 11:12 PM) i did give you the option of driving one for at least 5000km. Have you driven one to understand how the ECO mode affect the car? Talk is cheap, everyone know ECO mode is to save petrol but I doubt seriously everyone can live driving ECO mode all the time on the Prius and CT200h, keep in mind both uses the 1.8 engine, imagine P C running a 1.5 engine, that's severely underpower. Don't believe me, go test before booking. haha..ive been driving prius 1.8, eco mode. no problem |
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Feb 17 2012, 10:08 PM) Why do you ask question about hybrid car pulling power? Dont even think about hybrid if you want pulling power. Eco mean saving fuel, its mean less power, its mean less CO2. If you want pulling power you might as well buy a 2.4ltr car. Toyota share price close to 52 weeks high, doyou have some? I've been driving hybrid since 2006 way before Malaysia start selling them. And yes I have driven all the above models and IMO the H. Insight is the shitest of all. I like the CT200h but I dont see the point of it thats why I bought the Gen 3 Prius. I do hope that this Prius C is as good as it bigger sibling. 7203.T on Tokyo Stock Exchange 3,285JPY 17 Feb 2012 Price Change (% chg) ¥20(+0.61%) Prev Close ¥3,265 Open ¥3,340 Day's High ¥3,350 Day's Low ¥3,280 Volume 10,492,700 Avg. Vol 10,389,531 52-wk High ¥3,940 52-wk Low ¥2,330 |
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and did i step on some fu cktard's tail here? Why die die must protect Toyota? Pariahs!!
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 11:31 PM) What is your point to saying that Prius is under power at ECO mode?If you think Prius is not worth it because it is under power, you have option not to use it or sell it off. You don't like the car under power doesn't mean Prius is useless or no good than Insight, people judge it from different perspectives... I also can complaint Ferrari is not good because the fuel consumption is too bad, get my point? |
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Feb 17 2012, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 17 2012, 11:50 PM) What is your point to saying that Prius is under power at ECO mode? this is a forum and that's my opinion. Where did I post Prius is useless or no good than Insight?If you think Prius is not worth it because it is under power, you have option not to use it or sell it off. You don't like the car under power doesn't mean Prius is useless or no good than Insight, people judge it from different perspectives... I also can complaint Ferrari is not good because the fuel consumption is too bad, get my point? |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:13 AM
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QUOTE(IpohLad @ Feb 17 2012, 10:08 PM) Why do you ask question about hybrid car pulling power? Dont even think about hybrid if you want pulling power. Eco mean saving fuel, its mean less power, its mean less CO2. If you want pulling power you might as well buy a 2.4ltr car. Aiyah shitest of all aaa? I've been driving hybrid since 2006 way before Malaysia start selling them. And yes I have driven all the above models and IMO the H. Insight is the shitest of all. I like the CT200h but I dont see the point of it thats why I bought the Gen 3 Prius. I do hope that this Prius C is as good as it bigger sibling. Lunchtime just wanna rephrase that sometimes, we need that pickup to get into fast & busy highway. And yes Prius may have pulling power. But shitting other make and model is just lame... Afterall we all driving hybrid... |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 12:13 AM) Aiyah shitest of all aaa? Prius C 0-100KM acceleration time is < 11 second, it is not slow, quite average pickup speedLunchtime just wanna rephrase that sometimes, we need that pickup to get into fast & busy highway. And yes Prius may have pulling power. But shitting other make and model is just lame... Afterall we all driving hybrid... |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 11:12 PM) i did give you the option of driving one for at least 5000km. Have you driven one to understand how the ECO mode affect the car? Talk is cheap, everyone know ECO mode is to save petrol but I doubt seriously everyone can live driving ECO mode all the time on the Prius and CT200h, keep in mind both uses the 1.8 engine, imagine P C running a 1.5 engine, that's severely underpower. Don't believe me, go test before booking. my family have a prius, i also have the option to drive it anytime i want...but i choice/bought ALTIS 2.0V as my current vehicle, trust me lar my friend, when the person who press the ECO mode button, mean that he agree need to give up the power to save some "paper" in his walletno need to argue lar...keep on argue only pull me down to ur level, cos u dont understand what u bring up sorry that i quote ur post |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM) Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode. You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite:1) having a less powerful engine 2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars 3) Insight being a lame entry level car 4) Prius being a above C segment car 5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors 6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight) 7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car 8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology 9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it: http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/ Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more... if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok? dumbass Honda kid... |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM) You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite: how can i forget bold/red part?1) having a less powerful engine 2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars 3) Insight being a lame entry level car 4) Prius being a above C segment car 5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors 6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight) 7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car 8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology 9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it: http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/ Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more... if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok? dumbass Honda kid... my altis2.0V is not match with my family Prius, when floor the gas pedal, Prius is no play play one...lol my friend...no need to pull down ur level for some ppl...is not worth |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:42 AM) how can i forget bold/red part? bro, sorry but i really cannot stand all these Honda Insight boys...my altis2.0V is not match with my family Prius, when floor the gas pedal, Prius is no play play one...lol my friend...no need to pull down ur level for some ppl...is not worth they go around spreading all kinds of lies to the general public and keep touting Insight as if it is the world's best car... normal City driving with an Insight will give u only 16km/litre while Prius gives me at least 22km/litre on a bad day... sorry, but my old Kenari gives me 14-15km/litre and it only cost less than half of a Honda Insight... it's not a bad car for sure but to try earnestly to claim it is on par or worse, better than Prius is just stupid talk... |
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Feb 18 2012, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 12:47 AM) bro, sorry but i really cannot stand all these Honda Insight boys... haha....Insight is the best...hahathey go around spreading all kinds of lies to the general public and keep touting Insight as if it is the world's best car... normal City driving with an Insight will give u only 16km/litre while Prius gives me at least 22km/litre on a bad day... sorry, but my old Kenari gives me 14-15km/litre and it only cost less than half of a Honda Insight... it's not a bad car for sure but to try earnestly to claim it is on par or worse, better than Prius is just stupid talk... ask both Insight and Prius turn ON the engine and sit inside and park under hot sun....see which car driver will be COOKED!! this result is : insight = |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM
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this is hard to choose... im going to get a insight, but P C price is tempting too... but the boot space really kill the appetite..
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Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:59 AM) haha....Insight is the best...haha watchout ok, honda insight can match altis 2.0 dual vvti.ask both Insight and Prius turn ON the engine and sit inside and park under hot sun....see which car driver will be COOKED!! this result is : insight = anyway, i dont have anything against hybrids, as my family has one, but after reading some ridiculous comments, must say something lo. both are very good cars, catered for different segments, but to say prius on eco mode no power? obviously havent drive beyond 10 km lah floor the pedal when u need it and the power will still b there. |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:09 AM
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@ckk125,
alot of all these dumbtarts comes into forums and makes all kinds of silly allegations but at the end of the day, they only naik basikal cause still in skool...some lesen also tarak...say Prius is LOW LOW Power...one of the best features of a Prius is the power of the car when you turn it on, the hybrid system hits you with everything its got...wonderful feeling... Added on February 18, 2012, 1:13 am QUOTE(wailup @ Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM) this is hard to choose... im going to get a insight, but P C price is tempting too... but the boot space really kill the appetite.. if you really want to buy a hybrid, then u should definitely get a Prius C...but then again my opinion is biased... the boot space is really a killer i suppose...just go and test drive both cars la and see how it feels... This post has been edited by infi_nity: Feb 18 2012, 01:13 AM |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:17 AM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM) watchout ok, honda insight can match altis 2.0 dual vvti. really? but from my experience, prius can easy overtake my altis 2.0V, due to me and my family dont own a insight...i only can compete with other insight user on the road....but never been overtake by insight wor anyway, i dont have anything against hybrids, as my family has one, but after reading some ridiculous comments, must say something lo. both are very good cars, catered for different segments, but to say prius on eco mode no power? obviously havent drive beyond 10 km lah floor the pedal when u need it and the power will still b there. but one thing i must say, no vehicle in this world is perfect....no car is the worst, i'm not again the vehicle model...i just again the ppl who dont know what is the meaning of ECO mode! |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM) You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite: Deluded and poor huh? 1) having a less powerful engine 2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars 3) Insight being a lame entry level car 4) Prius being a above C segment car 5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors 6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight) 7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car 8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology 9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it: http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/ Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more... if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok? dumbass Honda kid... After gone through the real product (Prius & Insight), extensive test drive, scrutinize the fit & finish, observe real world FC for Insight (http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/insight/2011) and Prius (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/prius/2011), and compare their price, nothing can justify the purchase of a Prius over Insight in Malaysia. Unless buying the badge. Not that brand loyal no good. Only its kinda..... deluded Yeah Prius is a better hybrid. But RM40K just cant justify that (with plastic rim covers some more Come on guys. U guys should be better than those in Inspira vs Forte, Vios vs City, Saga vs Myvi thread. Go green together and respect others isnt too hard is it? |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 01:22 AM) Deluded and poor huh? i've seen dumbers like u too many times, keep insisting anyone with a Toyota is only buying because they're a chinaman/loving the badge/displaying blind loyalty...After gone through the real product (Prius & Insight), extensive test drive, scrutinize the fit & finish, observe real world FC for Insight (http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/insight/2011) and Prius (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/prius/2011), and compare their price, nothing can justify the purchase of a Prius over Insight in Malaysia. Unless buying the badge. Not that brand loyal no good. Only its kinda..... deluded Yeah Prius is a better hybrid. But RM40K just cant justify that (with plastic rim covers some more Come on guys. U guys should be better than those in Inspira vs Forte, Vios vs City, Saga vs Myvi thread. Go green together and respect others isnt too hard is it? in truth, the difference between Insight and Prius is worth much more than 40k... LOL, it's like comparing a Myvi and a Camry...of course there is huge price difference...the ride comfort and the rest doesnt matter eh? |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:45 AM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 01:37 AM) i've seen dumbers like u too many times, keep insisting anyone with a Toyota is only buying because they're a chinaman/loving the badge/displaying blind loyalty... Nice answer from an owner of a 140k car with plastic rim covers... in truth, the difference between Insight and Prius is worth much more than 40k... LOL, it's like comparing a Myvi and a Camry...of course there is huge price difference...the ride comfort and the rest doesnt matter eh? |
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Feb 18 2012, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 01:45 AM) i dont get it....why ppl only point something that isnt important....and yes prius do have plastic rim cover....but do u notice what is behind the plastic cover? do u notice what is the different under the hood? do u notice what is the different of the interior? do u notice what is the different of the meter? do u notice what is the different of the gear lever? do u notice what is the different of the aircon system?Added on February 18, 2012, 1:53 am QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 01:50 AM) ouch...that hurtThis post has been edited by cloud8318: Feb 18 2012, 01:55 AM |
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Feb 18 2012, 02:02 AM
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I don't own any one of Prius or insight or test drives any but all I know is Prius fc win insight and another thing is that insight has the potential to win "ugliest hybrid car awards 2011-2012"
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Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM
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Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM) Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"...all the heat will be instantly forgotten... |
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Feb 18 2012, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM) Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"... Let put more fuel to it... all the heat will be instantly forgotten... Toyota recalls 110,000-plus hybrid cars Posted on 30 June 2011 - 05:37am TOKYO (June 29, 2011): Toyota said Wednesday it will recall more than 110,000 hybrid vehicles in the United States, Japan and Europe because of faulty transistors in electrical power control boards. The US market is the most affected, with the Japanese auto giant recalling 45,500 units of its Highlander Hybrid and 36,700 Lexus RX 400h vehicles due to "inadequate soldering". Toyota said certain transistors could be damaged from heat caused by a large current flow during high-load driving due to the defect. In most cases the vehicle will enter a fail-safe driving mode, resulting in reduced power in which the vehicle can still be driven for short distances. In the worst case, the vehicle could stop, Toyota said. Roughly 3,000 of the same vehicles are also being recalled in Canada, 11,164 in Japan and 15,000 in Europe, a Toyota spokeswoman said. Toyota said it is "working on" obtaining replacement parts and will notify owners when they are available. The latest global recall is a another blow for the company struggling to restore its reputation as a quality automaker, having recalled millions of vehicles since 2009 over safety defects. — AFP Come on. Just admit it could burnt. Oohh my plastic rim covers burnt |
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QUOTE(Cls63Amg7 @ Feb 18 2012, 02:02 AM) I don't own any one of Prius or insight or test drives any but all I know is Prius fc win insight and another thing is that insight has the potential to win "ugliest hybrid car awards 2011-2012" There is not a lot of choices but not that ugly.However, I do dislike one thing about Honda. Sometimes the ride is just too hard. We had one City FL and it is really hard. It was stolen and the next one we bought was the same but with a slight FL again which has softer seat but retain the suspension hardness. I went for Insight test drive the other day and was really surprised by the harsh ride. You can feel even the slightest imperfection of the road. Lets see how the facelifted Insight will fare against Prius C. I think the drive is quite good. Its silent and did not really feel the lack of power. The acceleration up to 100KMH was okay, not as sluggish as I first feared. Hope they get rid of the PE foam box (CHEAPO ICE BOX foam) in the boot for tyre storage. Not suitable if want to carry something heavy. |
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Feb 18 2012, 03:12 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:40 AM) Let put more fuel to it... American Honda Motor Co. said late Wednesday it will recall 36,656 Civic Hybrids in the U.S. to replace a critical component of the cars' hybrid drive system. The cars, all from the 2006 and 2007 model years, are being recalled to replace the DC to DC power converter which handles charging of the conventional 12-volt battery. The component installed in '06 and '07 models is prone to failure that can lead to engine stalling and headlight outages. No accidents or injuries have been reported in conjunction with the problem.Toyota recalls 110,000-plus hybrid cars Posted on 30 June 2011 - 05:37am TOKYO (June 29, 2011): Toyota said Wednesday it will recall more than 110,000 hybrid vehicles in the United States, Japan and Europe because of faulty transistors in electrical power control boards. The US market is the most affected, with the Japanese auto giant recalling 45,500 units of its Highlander Hybrid and 36,700 Lexus RX 400h vehicles due to "inadequate soldering". Toyota said certain transistors could be damaged from heat caused by a large current flow during high-load driving due to the defect. In most cases the vehicle will enter a fail-safe driving mode, resulting in reduced power in which the vehicle can still be driven for short distances. In the worst case, the vehicle could stop, Toyota said. Roughly 3,000 of the same vehicles are also being recalled in Canada, 11,164 in Japan and 15,000 in Europe, a Toyota spokeswoman said. Toyota said it is "working on" obtaining replacement parts and will notify owners when they are available. The latest global recall is a another blow for the company struggling to restore its reputation as a quality automaker, having recalled millions of vehicles since 2009 over safety defects. — AFP Come on. Just admit it could burnt. Oohh my plastic rim covers burnt The automaker said in a statement released late Wednesday that it would begin notifying owners of the affected Civic hybrids on March 18 and that after that date, owners with concerns can also call the company at (800) 999-1009 or get information on-line at www.recalls.honda.com. Honda spokesman Chris Martin said the recall is a voluntary action prompted by customer complaints of stalling and headlamp outages. In addition to the U.S. cars, it involves 2006 and early 2007 Civic hybrids sold in Japan and Europe -- a global total of about 52,000 vehicles. The problem stems from degradation over time of a small diode that was susceptible to damage during pre-assembly testing in Japan, Martin said. The recall is not related to ongoing consumer complaints of premature failure of the main nickel-metal hydride battery pack in 2006 through 2008 Civic hybrids. Honda last year offered to upgrade the battery control software for more than 100,000 2006-'08 Civic hybrids in the U.S. and Canada, acknowledging that the cars' batteries could deteriorate and fail prematurely. The software fix was aimed at correcting the problem by bringing the '06 through '08 models up to the standards used in '09 and later Civic Hybrid battery controllers. Some customers, however, continue to complain on various on-line sites -- including the Edmunds.com Forums -- of problems with Civic hybrid battery failure after the software fix. The Civic hybrid recall comes just a week after NHTSA announced a preliminary investigation into a problem with 2006 and 2007 Toyota Highlander hybrid power inverters after receiving 32 consumer complaints. NHTSA said that in 21 of the complaints it received, motorists alleged that their 2006 Highlander hybrids stalled at highway speeds. That probe is still open and ongoing "Just admit it could burnt" <--- this lame grammar made me laugh...but I would expect nothing less from a sour graped Insight owner, green eyed with envy over a superior car... |
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Feb 18 2012, 03:31 AM
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lol is this a prius c discussion thread or a thread for fanboys to whine about how great their ride is?
speaking of which, these hybrids are not even considered luxury ones to start whining about |
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Feb 18 2012, 06:48 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 17 2012, 06:22 PM) Deluded and poor huh? I would say yes it justified to spent an extra RM40 for a Prius if you have the cash for it. You get what you pay for in here with Prius vs Insight. I notice you mention in Malaysia but not IMO there are more Prius on the road in the UK than the Insight even the difference with £4k (RM20k). I afraid Honda start to lose battle on hybrid tech yrs ago.After gone through the real product (Prius & Insight), extensive test drive, scrutinize the fit & finish, observe real world FC for Insight (http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/insight/2011) and Prius (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/prius/2011), and compare their price, nothing can justify the purchase of a Prius over Insight in Malaysia. Unless buying the badge. Not that brand loyal no good. Only its kinda..... deluded Yeah Prius is a better hybrid. But RM40K just cant justify that (with plastic rim covers some more Come on guys. U guys should be better than those in Inspira vs Forte, Vios vs City, Saga vs Myvi thread. Go green together and respect others isnt too hard is it? I'm not a big Jap car fan, but I cant afford the petrol here. |
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Feb 18 2012, 07:37 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM) the plastic rim cover covers an alloy rim. http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii-2010-p...eel-covers.html ![]() it is there for aerodynamic purpose.. just like your low rear roof. that prius on fire cuz it was due to some wiring fault done at some accessory shop. bro infinitium's insight headlamps was also on fire, if any of you forgotten. again, i have nothing against insight. almost bought one like u, but the rear as well as the ridiculous service schedule + price is not suitable for me. This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 18 2012, 07:41 AM |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM) You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite: you guys buy hybrid car to drag race ah? hahaha. i like the prius of course between the 2 as the selection of power, eco and electric mode. Thats the kind of car i like, reason being when you are driving and feel like going a little faster, press power button, Sometimes when you are tired in a traffic jam, press electric. Or else when you like to just cruise around, press eco. or auto. which ever. 1) having a less powerful engine 2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars 3) Insight being a lame entry level car 4) Prius being a above C segment car 5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors 6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight) 7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car 8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology 9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it: http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/ Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more... if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok? dumbass Honda kid... Only thing i dont quite fancy prius, the interior, it is dark and gloomy. like in england. anyway, in our beloved malaysia. price of petrol is still cheap. yeah. wait till price per liter becomes, RM 5.00 or RM 8.00 per liter. you will rush out to get a electric or a hybrid as soon as possible. anyway bash me bash me if you like, but prius is still better than honda IMA. thats a fact. Yaya, the insight and CRZ has better power. Better fuel efficiency, As i say, you buy hybrid to drag race? where is the fun in that. |
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QUOTE(khtan2000 @ Feb 18 2012, 03:31 AM) lol is this a prius c discussion thread or a thread for fanboys to whine about how great their ride is? This is what happen when owner of certain car felt their car much superior than others and start calling others dumb, stupid and poor.speaking of which, these hybrids are not even considered luxury ones to start whining about I say lets go green together but still... the reply is disappointing. The facts is both car is just average Joe's and only transition to better technology. Calling others stupid, but buying a cheapo hybrid with 15 inch plastic wheel covers @ 140K in Malaysia isnt that bright either. Infact, it has flaw that kills. In other market, trim-per-trim, price different is only RM9 - 10k. QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 18 2012, 02:43 AM) There is not a lot of choices but not that ugly. Thats a trade off for a Japanese car. Either softly sprung and wallowy, or firmer setup for better handling. However, I do dislike one thing about Honda. Sometimes the ride is just too hard. We had one City FL and it is really hard. It was stolen and the next one we bought was the same but with a slight FL again which has softer seat but retain the suspension hardness. I went for Insight test drive the other day and was really surprised by the harsh ride. You can feel even the slightest imperfection of the road. Lets see how the facelifted Insight will fare against Prius C. I think the drive is quite good. Its silent and did not really feel the lack of power. The acceleration up to 100KMH was okay, not as sluggish as I first feared. Hope they get rid of the PE foam box (CHEAPO ICE BOX foam) in the boot for tyre storage. Not suitable if want to carry something heavy. U see, japs tune their suspension differently from conti cars. Germans for example, can tune merc Avantgarde suspension to be a good handler and at the same time comfortable enough for normal citizen. Japanese make usually use the cheaper setup, hence, some compromise have to be taken. Toyota is very good at stripping their suspension to be damn comfortable. Their suspension often flimsy and wallowy, with boatlike handling and excessive body roll in corners. This is the example of so called superior, luxury Toyota hybrid but equipped with fail suspension. The Prius suddenly lost control, hit 2 cars in front and slams into the barrier. Even worst, the so called luxury hybrid even failed to deploys their 7 airbags eventhough the driver was wearing seatbelt. Sadly, the driver die in that accident. So if u're an aggressive driver, choose other than Toyota coz similar kinda 'lost control' accident prone to happen. Vios, Avanza, used to have this risk. This post has been edited by watonk: Feb 18 2012, 10:42 AM |
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Prius is a world NO.1 BEST BEST car, you happy now.
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM) Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"... I have a present for you. Shot from the best angle, featuring the ever-glimmering plastic covers... all the heat will be instantly forgotten... |
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majority of the trolls here can't afford a Prius or are not even owners themselves, just family has one or friend's father ownes one or dad's car. Yet talk big big like owners.
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Aiyo ... come on ppl.. don't argue lar... both cars have their good and bad and there are bound to be supporters for either honda or toyota.
I for one is glad that in malaysia now we have a choice to choose. There isn't anypoint for anyone to justify anything since you guys aren't selling cars for the company.. But i think you guys helped alot to give a lot of facts and reasoning behind both companies technologies.. Its info like what you all gave that makes this forum worthwhile -MINUS- the hate you guys have. Just be peaceful k ? Lets go forward with more constructive comments. Accept each other's criticism and don't take it personal. I like how Honda and Toyota are positioning their hybrids... with so many hybrids coming into Malaysia now its kinda exciting!! I am in the midst of deciding which car to get... Insight/Prius C Honda Insight has its design, I kinda like the aerodynamic form.. nice dashboard meter but the rear headroom is a bit small to fit taller adults. I don't really care about power or what... after all most of us are bound by the 110km/h limit...right ? Toyota Prius / Prius C is nice as well! Nice Tech and nice entry price for the Prius C!.. It has its unique LCD dashboard design and interior. FC also nice but i kinda worry abit on how much the replacement battery would cost if it would to go down. Overall its a nice car. The only doubt i have is i still have yet to test drive this car and have a true feel to it. This post has been edited by Remedy: Feb 18 2012, 11:02 AM |
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Accodring to SA, Prius C will be available at showroom on 24th Feb.
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In my opinion, toyotas have better technology compared to honda in the hybrid world. My dad drives a Prius and my mom is waiting for the cvt crz. I have personally took a friends insight for a ride and to be honest, nothing compared to Prius ( in terms of ride stability and 'fun factor'. Of course though, the price difference is there. One thing about the new P C is that the dashboard sucks big time. No offense, I work as a designer and when I see designs like this, it's basically a face palm. The exterior on the other hand looks nice and sporty. What I am tryin to say is the P C deserves a much better dashboard but oh well, interior was never on of toyotas strong points.
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plastic cover also want to make noise aa.pisses me off reading this kinds of arguments especially when the 'good guy' starts sputtering things he was criticizing from the start.
IMHO,the Prius is damn worth the extra 40k but saying so, that doesnt make insight buyer stupid or anything. at the point of buying maybe they want a hybrid and insight offered the cheapest price so why not? Back to the topic which is the prius c, if news on the reduced price is true than it will definitely be a game changer. its a well known fact that the HSD system is superior to the IMA in terms of fuel efficiency. and i just dont see why anyone would go for the insight after this unless if they are a honda fan (which i feel theres nothing wrong with it) or love the design of the insight. i keep seeing people commenting on blind loyalty to the brand.and i ask why not?different people different taste different opinion laa..u cant scold an old man who loved his wira so much he decided to get a persona even when he could afford a vios/city/fiesta/whatever? p/s:dont get me started on the ECO mode feeling lack of power. no amounts of face palm can help with that one. |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Feb 18 2012, 02:06 PM) In my opinion, toyotas have better technology compared to honda in the hybrid world. My dad drives a Prius and my mom is waiting for the cvt crz. I have personally took a friends insight for a ride and to be honest, nothing compared to Prius ( in terms of ride stability and 'fun factor'. Of course though, the price difference is there. One thing about the new P C is that the dashboard sucks big time. No offense, I work as a designer and when I see designs like this, it's basically a face palm. The exterior on the other hand looks nice and sporty. What I am tryin to say is the P C deserves a much better dashboard but oh well, interior was never on of toyotas strong points. well toyota/lexus did a great job on the ct200h Lux's interior.. |
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prius C C=City? If i stay in kampung? so when they going to make prius K
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$40k is 21052 litres of ron 95, which drives gives 421040km. Which car have you driven for 421040km?
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 10:34 AM) Toyota is very good at stripping their suspension to be damn comfortable. Their suspension often flimsy and wallowy, with boatlike handling and excessive body roll in corners. This is the example of so called superior, luxury Toyota hybrid but equipped with fail suspension. True but somehow I was quite attached to my Vios boat like suspension. Very comfy and flying over those small bumps/potholes. Finding it hard to make myself brake for bumps down to 10kmh. |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 18 2012, 02:51 PM) $40k is 21052 litres of ron 95, which drives gives 421040km. Which car have you driven for 421040km? when you buy either hybrids, insight or prius, of course fuel economy is the highlight,but you cant really use the fuel savings as a gauge on how much u save on the cost of the car. I have friends who question if buying a hybrid is worth it since they did similar calculations to yours and that the return you get from fuel saving can never justify the price of the car. In fact, most young sor hais & trolls here haven't managed 200000km in their whole life time driving and can't even afford the downpayment for a Prius, still milking FAMA's money. My opinion is that these hybrids are considered 'premium' products for now and that explains the 'premium' price u have to pay. which is why i dont quite agree when you compare the 40k difference solely on the fuel savings.. Buy a hybrid if you want to enjoy the quietness and the fact that ure doing the world a favour 'eco' wise, enjoying yourself knowing how much fuel you are saving over a conventional car. plastic rims, glass rims, it doesnt matter does it?and cmon, im sure you're matured enough to leave the name-calling out of your post at least? |
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There u go LYN have a lot of f1 driver require very sporty suspension that usually toyota cannot meet their requirement... Usually this type of driver need lotus tune products...
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Feb 18 2012, 05:43 PM) when you buy either hybrids, insight or prius, of course fuel economy is the highlight,but you cant really use the fuel savings as a gauge on how much u save on the cost of the car. I have friends who question if buying a hybrid is worth it since they did similar calculations to yours and that the return you get from fuel saving can never justify the price of the car. agree with you My opinion is that these hybrids are considered 'premium' products for now and that explains the 'premium' price u have to pay. which is why i dont quite agree when you compare the 40k difference solely on the fuel savings.. Buy a hybrid if you want to enjoy the quietness and the fact that ure doing the world a favour 'eco' wise, enjoying yourself knowing how much fuel you are saving over a conventional car. plastic rims, glass rims, it doesnt matter does it?and cmon, im sure you're matured enough to leave the name-calling out of your post at least? |
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 10:34 AM) This is what happen when owner of certain car felt their car much superior than others and start calling others dumb, stupid and poor. Shame on you for talking nonsense...the driver of the Prius had a heart attack and die due to the heart attack...I say lets go green together but still... the reply is disappointing. The facts is both car is just average Joe's and only transition to better technology. Calling others stupid, but buying a cheapo hybrid with 15 inch plastic wheel covers @ 140K in Malaysia isnt that bright either. Infact, it has flaw that kills. In other market, trim-per-trim, price different is only RM9 - 10k. Thats a trade off for a Japanese car. Either softly sprung and wallowy, or firmer setup for better handling. U see, japs tune their suspension differently from conti cars. Germans for example, can tune merc Avantgarde suspension to be a good handler and at the same time comfortable enough for normal citizen. Japanese make usually use the cheaper setup, hence, some compromise have to be taken. Toyota is very good at stripping their suspension to be damn comfortable. Their suspension often flimsy and wallowy, with boatlike handling and excessive body roll in corners. This is the example of so called superior, luxury Toyota hybrid but equipped with fail suspension. The Prius suddenly lost control, hit 2 cars in front and slams into the barrier. Even worst, the so called luxury hybrid even failed to deploys their 7 airbags eventhough the driver was wearing seatbelt. Sadly, the driver die in that accident. So if u're an aggressive driver, choose other than Toyota coz similar kinda 'lost control' accident prone to happen. Vios, Avanza, used to have this risk. that is why the car lost control in Federal Highway and crashed because the driver died already... the driver is my friend...u should really get your head checked for using this to bash the Prius... |
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 18 2012, 10:47 AM) majority of the trolls here can't afford a Prius or are not even owners themselves, just family has one or friend's father ownes one or dad's car. Yet talk big big like owners. hahahahaha....u really wanna talk about being able to afford cars?the guy who could only buy an Insight...tsk tsk... Added on February 18, 2012, 7:47 pm QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 10:39 AM) yup...no Honda Insight has ever crashed before... only Prius will kill u when you have a heart attack in the middle of Federal Highway... i would suggest you please drive damn fast on federal highway and then try to crash and see if Honda Insight's safety features will save you on such an impact... then if you're still alive after that, I'll kowtow to u and say Insight is the best car ever! waiting for the crash results... This post has been edited by infi_nity: Feb 18 2012, 07:47 PM |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 07:43 PM) hahahahaha....u really wanna talk about being able to afford cars? +1...the guy who could only buy an Insight...tsk tsk... Added on February 18, 2012, 7:47 pm yup...no Honda Insight has ever crashed before... only Prius will kill u when you have a heart attack in the middle of Federal Highway... i would suggest you please drive damn fast on federal highway and then try to crash and see if Honda Insight's safety features will save you on such an impact... then if you're still alive after that, I'll kowtow to u and say Insight is the best car ever! waiting for the crash results... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 18 2012, 06:39 PM) There u go LYN have a lot of f1 driver require very sporty suspension that usually toyota cannot meet their requirement... Usually this type of driver need lotus tune products... Yea. People with passion for cars usually dont buy by the badge. Most Honda owners have nothing against Proton or Lotus. Only some, owning Toyota felt so superior they look down to others.QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 07:43 PM) hahahahaha....u really wanna talk about being able to afford cars? Sure got Insight crashed before but not as nasty. And Insight is not the best car ever. the guy who could only buy an Insight...tsk tsk... Added on February 18, 2012, 7:47 pm yup...no Honda Insight has ever crashed before... only Prius will kill u when you have a heart attack in the middle of Federal Highway... i would suggest you please drive damn fast on federal highway and then try to crash and see if Honda Insight's safety features will save you on such an impact... then if you're still alive after that, I'll kowtow to u and say Insight is the best car ever! waiting for the crash results... |
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Feb 18 2012, 05:43 PM) when you buy either hybrids, insight or prius, of course fuel economy is the highlight,but you cant really use the fuel savings as a gauge on how much u save on the cost of the car. I have friends who question if buying a hybrid is worth it since they did similar calculations to yours and that the return you get from fuel saving can never justify the price of the car. hhmmm.....10k is enough for honda city to put 5000 liter petrol dy....My opinion is that these hybrids are considered 'premium' products for now and that explains the 'premium' price u have to pay. which is why i dont quite agree when you compare the 40k difference solely on the fuel savings.. Buy a hybrid if you want to enjoy the quietness and the fact that ure doing the world a favour 'eco' wise, enjoying yourself knowing how much fuel you are saving over a conventional car. plastic rims, glass rims, it doesnt matter does it?and cmon, im sure you're matured enough to leave the name-calling out of your post at least? but then, wait wait.....if buy myvi, the money(rm50k) can put one life time already....... so....if we're going to buy cheap car, then we just buy saga myvi, because its the best/reasonable to pocket. if we buy car more than that(rm50k), its beause we simply enjoy burning our money for car installment and petrol. why buy prada when plastic bag is just 50cent? why someone always trying to justify their buying? is it because they had a hard time paying the installment and trying to justify the payment by the fuel saving? have you ever seen ppl buying 100k car always attack ppl buy 200k saying they are dumb and bla bla bla and bla bla bla and not environemnt frenly and bla bla bla? yea, camry is the best car, why buy 3 series and 5 series? this sounds funny right? no, my reply is not actually to you, just to share with prius C basher...car havent launch they already butthurt? aiyooo.....they need kyjelly..... yea, prius C is not the best hybrid. lets buy fiesta and keep rm20k to put petrol This post has been edited by turbocharged: Feb 18 2012, 08:11 PM |
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this thread seems to be full of hostile against toyota....
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 07:59 PM) Yea. People with passion for cars usually dont buy by the badge. Most Honda owners have nothing against Proton or Lotus. Only some, owning Toyota felt so superior they look down to others. Like a child's answer, as if you got data on ALL Insight crashes ever...Sure got Insight crashed before but not as nasty. And Insight is not the best car ever. and also, shameless for trying to use a heart attack incident to bash Prius...the driver is part of our Prius club member... so please, show some respect to the dead... |
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QUOTE(sonyman @ Feb 18 2012, 08:41 AM) you guys buy hybrid car to drag race ah? hahaha. i like the prius of course between the 2 as the selection of power, eco and electric mode. Thats the kind of car i like, reason being when you are driving and feel like going a little faster, press power button, Sometimes when you are tired in a traffic jam, press electric. Or else when you like to just cruise around, press eco. or auto. which ever. dont worry man, the petrol wont go up so fast. Only thing i dont quite fancy prius, the interior, it is dark and gloomy. like in england. anyway, in our beloved malaysia. price of petrol is still cheap. yeah. wait till price per liter becomes, RM 5.00 or RM 8.00 per liter. you will rush out to get a electric or a hybrid as soon as possible. anyway bash me bash me if you like, but prius is still better than honda IMA. thats a fact. Yaya, the insight and CRZ has better power. Better fuel efficiency, As i say, you buy hybrid to drag race? where is the fun in that. remember, the nasi lemak or wan tan mee are still transport with petrol powered car. if i were you,i'll worry how much the food costs when it rm5/rm8 a liter oh, get a job that allows you to work from home lo Added on February 18, 2012, 8:18 pm QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 18 2012, 08:09 PM) aiyo, fixed already!! This post has been edited by turbocharged: Feb 18 2012, 08:18 PM |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 18 2012, 08:17 PM) Like a child's answer, as if you got data on ALL Insight crashes ever... one who is matured enough should never bring up accidents to bash other cars, especially those that involves the loss of lifeand also, shameless for trying to use a heart attack incident to bash Prius...the driver is part of our Prius club member... so please, show some respect to the dead... bash also respect la, a life was lost. by commenting on those who has passed on, what can one gain? another leaf in the dashboard? This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 18 2012, 09:03 PM |
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Don't really get why you are paying over 100k for the car and advertised for them at the very same time.
Who cares if it's a 600k S class Benz or 400k Sporty E class or million dollar Porshe. I only want Prius C with some comparison to Insight. |
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Feb 18 2012, 08:16 PM) this thread seems to be full of hostile against toyota.... LYN.... Any Toyota related topic sure got such thing la... Use to it....End up almost few post sure got someone come out bashed it. Fed up.... Added on February 18, 2012, 9:55 pm QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 18 2012, 09:08 PM) Don't really get why you are paying over 100k for the car and advertised for them at the very same time. Personally tested the insight.. Ohps sorry.. No I don't drive it for 5000km before.... A pretty big no no for me... Who cares if it's a 600k S class Benz or 400k Sporty E class or million dollar Porshe. I only want Prius C with some comparison to Insight. Prius c not yet try... But don't think will try... Tried the ct200h... Wao.... This post has been edited by BuFung: Feb 18 2012, 09:55 PM |
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9actually prius is fine, esp after UMW priced it at camry level.
so, its rm10k more than altis, and same price with camry. its a win win to all. since the interior is similar to altis/camry ( i dunno) . so the small price difference is acceptable. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 18 2012, 11:17 PM) 9actually prius is fine, esp after UMW priced it at camry level. most of the money we pay for prius is for the advance technology....but altis and camry large amount of our money is suck by the tax system!! so, its rm10k more than altis, and same price with camry. its a win win to all. since the interior is similar to altis/camry ( i dunno) . so the small price difference is acceptable. |
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The price las time 90kplus now in website 103k
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97k... a big run for insight....
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Feb 20 2012, 03:08 PM) Launch already? I thought it will be launched this evening at 7:30pm at Sunway Pyramid convention centre. |
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That is the press (media) launch.
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 20 2012, 03:34 PM) Launch already? I thought it will be launched this evening at 7:30pm at Sunway Pyramid convention centre. I think the event is running now.![]() Wow... like the Blue logo. http://instagr.am/p/HOAqO8B1Om/ |
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oh, honla fan boy gonna be so butthurt.
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Bersih!!!
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97k is OTR or just the car price?
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OTR. the price is at mudah since last week
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Whatever car will have their own admirer.
Some like it because of the brand. Some like it because it is fast. Some like it because it is big. Some like it because it is good. Some like it because it is cheap. Some like it because it is save fuel. The choice is not on you so don't get too heated up. |
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Very well equip.... I would say this car well worth it price...
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Feb 20 2012, 09:36 PM
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Feb 20 2012, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 20 2012, 09:36 PM) I now believe what they mean by UGLY... it does not look good from the photos but will still see them upclose personally to confirm how bad it was. Plan to get 1?Added on February 20, 2012, 9:47 pm seven airbags (front, side, curtain, driver’s knee), TRC (traction control), VSC (vehicle stability control), ABS, EBD, Brake Assist, auto climate control, cruise control and keyless entry with start button... All in.... This gonna affect the vios sales as well I belief... This car like the big brother can run purely on battery up to 45km/h some more... Don't see the insight have anything to rival it.... This post has been edited by BuFung: Feb 20 2012, 09:47 PM |
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Feb 20 2012, 09:58 PM
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sales of Insight will drop..thats for sure!
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Feb 20 2012, 10:04 PM
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Well competition is healthy... lets see what Jazz Hybrid gotta offer
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Feb 20 2012, 10:08 PM
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already ordered this since a month ago...
smaller than my old 06 vios.... if not mistaken |
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Feb 20 2012, 10:58 PM
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 20 2012, 09:58 PM) not only insight - but might probably affect city or vios because the price is pretty close to both of them. Whats the big diff by getting another 7 - 10k loan from bank right ?also considering the fuel savings you get from this car. This post has been edited by Remedy: Feb 20 2012, 10:59 PM |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 20 2012, 09:43 PM) Plan to get 1? Regarding this pure EV mode, how long can it last?Added on February 20, 2012, 9:47 pm seven airbags (front, side, curtain, driver’s knee), TRC (traction control), VSC (vehicle stability control), ABS, EBD, Brake Assist, auto climate control, cruise control and keyless entry with start button... All in.... This gonna affect the vios sales as well I belief... This car like the big brother can run purely on battery up to 45km/h some more... Don't see the insight have anything to rival it.... |
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Feb 20 2012, 11:25 PM
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Just 2km? Hmm... I wonder how long in minutes if stuck in a traffic jam.
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Feb 21 2012, 12:11 AM
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Feb 21 2012, 12:22 AM
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Those bought H.Insight now will tekan ball de... Haha.. For sure not long Honda will come out Honda Jazz Hybrid to counter it or discount the current insight kau kau...
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Feb 21 2012, 07:41 AM
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i showed my mom the interior of the prius and i was expecting yucks! well she said , 'ok ma'. +1 to old people's car . hahahaha but she agreed that too much cheap plastics used especially the door.
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Feb 21 2012, 09:36 AM
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really bad interior.. even the engine compartment look sub standard
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Feb 21 2012, 11:56 AM
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Feb 21 2012, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(rainie1284 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:04 AM) what u mean engine compartment substandard, probably half the car cost went into this engine bay.. Added on February 21, 2012, 12:27 pm QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 20 2012, 09:58 PM) thats why they will counter with cheaper jazz with nicer interior albeit lower tech hybrid components..This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 21 2012, 12:27 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 12:53 PM
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competition of hybrid is good for the consumers. those buy proton lagi tekan balls. add a bit more can buy CBU Japan edi
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Feb 21 2012, 12:58 PM
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toyota prius C really does give good specs.
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Feb 21 2012, 01:01 PM
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If Jazz really sells for 85k, it's gonna heat up the competition! i'll be very tempted if it goes for 85k. or a used polo would be better. hmmmmmm
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The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer
Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 21 2012, 09:36 AM) Prius C aircond is powered by electric inverter compressor, hence, it can be run by battery power only, as such, the aircond is running even the engine is stopped Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat...Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 21 2012, 01:36 PM |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer insight using parellel hybrid keh? wa.. hou geng ah insight....Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? |
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somehow the new myvi's interior is better than this, wad a big disappointment. i'll save my final judgement after i see the real thing in showroom.
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Feb 21 2012, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer acterly the accurate term for insight or IMA equipped hybrid is Mild Hybrid. which is the lowest tech hybrid. it cannot run on EV mode alone.Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? QUOTE Mild hybrids are essentially conventional vehicles with some degree of hybrid hardware, but with limited hybrid feature utilization. Typically they are a parallel system with start-stop only or possibly in combination with modest levels of engine assist or regenerative braking features. Unlike full hybrids, Mild hybrids generally cannot provide ICE-OFF all-electric (EV) propulsion. |
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and im having problem accesing toyota website
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer How can u say like that. Toyota parts all last lifetime one Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 02:20 PM) acterly the accurate term for insight or IMA equipped hybrid is Mild Hybrid. which is the lowest tech hybrid. it cannot run on EV mode alone. It runs on full EV mode below 50km/h. However engine still register rpm reading since the motor runs the crankshaft. Prius C run its electric motor and disengage ICE under full EV. |
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 21 2012, 03:10 PM) It runs on full EV mode below 50km/h. However engine still register rpm reading since the motor runs the crankshaft. That's not what I understand. IMA = full time combustion engine + part time electric motor. As long as your car is moving, your combustion engine will be running, and that's why you see your engine RPM rising.Prius C run its electric motor and disengage ICE under full EV. This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Feb 21 2012, 03:35 PM |
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Yeh? UMW only give 3 yrs warranty for battery pack? I wonder how much it cost to replace the batteries after the warranty is gone case.
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Feb 21 2012, 03:25 PM) That's not what I understand. IMA = full time combustion engine + part time electric motor. As long as your car is moving, your combustion engine will be running, and that's why you see your engine RPM rising. You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required...In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid... let me explain Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work) HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime... so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah) Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch... |
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part hybrid... very new words to me... lol....
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 04:01 PM) ppl explain something, to be polite we should just i think now the new game in this hybrid is.... whoever save less fuel = real hybrid. prius= bigger car, use less fuel = fake hybrid/part hybrid xxxxxxx = smaller car, use more fuel, no aircon at jam = real hybrid/full hybrid. This post has been edited by turbocharged: Feb 21 2012, 04:03 PM |
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Feb 21 2012, 04:03 PM
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correct term is HSD since toyota patent it L)
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Feb 21 2012, 04:09 PM
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i only know toyota use parellel+series hybrid... donno honda use wat wat parellel hybrid which cannot run on pure battery mode.... lol... and after all still cannot match the much bigger car fc...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... There are many many hybrid on the road worldwide already, it is not the like majority spoilt after 5 years, 8 years later. Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? Stop worry about this. Getting a hybrid car is about getting and own the new tech and use to it. It is same like want to use handphone, and worry about the radiation. Pointless worry. The moment of one wish to own a hybrid, you don't worry the battery will die, car cannot start if battery died etc. already. Battery died time? Tow away and get it fix. Same with ordinary car, timing belt broken, tow away and get it fix. No money to get a new set of NimH if battery died after 10 years? then one should buy cheaper ordinary car. I find unacceptable that one can afford to buy a 100k hybrid car, and yet claim cannot afford potential around 10K cost battery replacement after 10 years later on. I sum up, disregard it is part or parallel hybrid. The moment one worry about battery spoil, battery cost, it means hybrid is not suitable for one. End of story. No $ to change NiMH after 5 years, 8 years or 10 years, means one is not afford to own the car. End of story. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 04:09 PM) i only know toyota use parellel+series hybrid... donno honda use wat wat parellel hybrid which cannot run on pure battery mode.... lol... and after all still cannot match the much bigger car fc... Insight can run on pure EV more laaa just not aggressive as Prius but that does not matter since the battery will eventually went out of juice and need petrol to charge it back... power is not free and Hybrid main source of power is still petrol... |
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Feb 21 2012, 03:25 PM) That's not what I understand. IMA = full time combustion engine + part time electric motor. As long as your car is moving, your combustion engine will be running, and that's why you see your engine RPM rising. For Insight, when the car goes full EV mode at speed under 50km/h, the vtec mechanism will shut of all valves (0 cam lobe). Each cylinder will produce their own pressure every time piston goes up. However these pressure will equalize one another as all pistons take turn to moves up and down. Injector will be shut of, plugs (2 per cylinder) will also cease fire.Only electric motor moves the car (coasting). Since the motor bolted onto the crankshaft and act as the flywheel, engine will still register rpm reading. Prius C, on full EV, the drivetrain will disengage combustion engine. However, both full EV mode is restricted to the amount of charge left in the batteries. QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 04:01 PM) ppl explain something, to be polite we should just i think now the new game in this hybrid is.... whoever save less fuel = real hybrid. prius= bigger car, use less fuel = fake hybrid/part hybrid xxxxxxx = smaller car, use more fuel, no aircon at jam = real hybrid/full hybrid. QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 04:11 PM) There are many many hybrid on the road worldwide already, it is not the like majority spoilt after 5 years, 8 years later. Stop worry about this. Getting a hybrid car is about getting and own the new tech and use to it. It is same like want to use handphone, and worry about the radiation. Pointless worry. The moment of one wish to own a hybrid, you don't worry the battery will die, car cannot start if battery died etc. already. Battery died time? Tow away and get it fix. Same with ordinary car, timing belt broken, tow away and get it fix. No money to get a new set of NimH if battery died after 10 years? then one should buy cheaper ordinary car. I find unacceptable that one can afford to buy a 100k hybrid car, and yet claim cannot afford potential around 10K cost battery replacement after 10 years later on. I sum up, disregard it is part or parallel hybrid. The moment one worry about battery spoil, battery cost, it means hybrid is not suitable for one. End of story. No $ to change NiMH after 5 years, 8 years or 10 years, means one is not afford to own the car. End of story. This post has been edited by watonk: Feb 21 2012, 04:38 PM |
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Driving insight after 5 years switch to Clarity by Honda Hydrogen case close!!!
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Honda IMA is closer to a regular car's drivetrain, while the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive is closer to that of an electric car.
The Honda IMA takes a regular car's drivetrain and substitutes the transmission's flywheel with an electrical motor, which is connected to a battery pack and control electronics. The motor is only good for assisting the gasoline engine, not powerful enough to move the car on its own except under very rare circumstances (such as maintaining speed under 50kmph on a stretch of flat road). The moment you let your foot off the brake, the gasoline engine has to start running. The rest of the Honda IMA drivetrain is the same as a regular car-- Engine crankshaft connected to either a multispeed geared transmission and torque converter (such as on the Accord Hybrid), a friction-belt-driven CVT transmission and torque converter (current Civic Hybrid), or a manual transmission with clutch (an option on the first-gen Insights). The Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive on the other hand does not have a conventional transmission like the Honda IMA. Instead, it uses a Power Split Device, which is a simple planetary gearset that combines the power from two electrical motor/generators (MG1 and MG2) and the gasoline engine. The entire PSD assembly is directly geared to the wheels, without a torque converter or clutch. This is similar to an electric car, which can have direct gearing to the wheels without a clutch or torque converter, because electrical motors can exert maximum torque at 0 RPM. The Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive, like an electric car, can move the car under electric power alone. How the Power Split Device transmission in the Hybrid Synergy Drive works: http://www.eahart.com/prius/psd Personally, I like the Toyota system better. It's MUCH simpler than the Honda IMA system, with just 22 moving parts in the Prius PSD vs. about 100 in the Accord Hybrid's normal 5-speed automatic transmission gearbox and torque converter. The PSD eliminates the need for multiple gear ratios (which means no gear-shifting wear-and-tear), does not have a hot-running torque converter (which means the tranny fluid lasts A LOT longer), and no clutch or CVT belts. That means the Toyota system has far fewer potential failure points and would be more durable. P/S So a Prius will have less wear and tear issues. So to those who have always maintain that a prius is expensive to own because of battery failure, that's BULLSHIT!!! like someone who had mentioned above there are HELL lots of Prius running around the world that is easily more than 10 years of age. Like I have always said don't bash for the sake of bashing. If you wanna bash, please read or else you will be making a fool out of yourself. This post has been edited by cody1508: Feb 21 2012, 05:10 PM |
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PriusC uses CVT also (thats on the brochure)
PSD connect to CVT then to wheel... Added on February 21, 2012, 4:51 pmOOps correction Prius uses ECVT.... ok.... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 21 2012, 04:51 PM |
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yeah corrected it is called ECVT or PSD hehehehe....
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer u joking or wat? the engine will charge the battery once it is flat and it has its own 12V battery to start the engine.Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 21 2012, 05:29 PM |
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Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 05:37 PM) Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery... there are 2 batteries, the nimh and the regular 12v.the 12v can start the engine in the event of nimh kaput. engine powers the electric motor, which in turn will charge the battery. there are 2 electric motors on the prius. the hybrid system will never allow the battery to reach 0, most of the time will have 2 bars left before engine will kick in to charge it up again. QUOTE MG1 and MG2 toyota aint stupidMG1 (motor generator 1): generates electrical power. MG1 recharges the EV battery and supplies electrical power to drive MG2. In addition, by regulating the amount of electrical power generated (thus varying MG1's internal resistance and rpm), MG1 effectively controls the transaxle's continuously variable transmission. MG1 also serves as the engine starter.[7] MG2 (motor generator 2): drives the vehicle. MG2 and the engine work together to drive the wheels. The addition of MG2's strong torque characteristics help achieve excellent dynamic performance, including smooth start-off and acceleration. During regenerative braking, MG2 converts kinetic energy into electrical energy, which is then stored in the EV battery.[7] This post has been edited by ckk125: Feb 21 2012, 05:53 PM |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 05:37 PM) Read nicely yes can start provided the NIMH pack still can charge (lifespan) but if exhausted all electrical system will eventually fail... like Water pump that rely on 200v battery... So what the fuss about if the NiMH pack fail totally time?The car cannot start, cannot move, then just tow away, and change a new pack. Even ordinary car, time belt can be broken after 80-100k KM, and car cannot even start also. Radiator leaking, water pump leaking, car also cannot start. Just tow away and get it fix. Every ordinary car after 8-10 years, parts also got spoil here, spoil there. Choose a car just because can start even if NiMH pack fail time that may only happen once after 8 years or even longer period? NiMH fails, just change one. What is the worry? I don't find this is a good reason to say this is a good car or not. |
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QUOTE(cody1508 @ Feb 21 2012, 04:43 PM) The Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive on the other hand does not have a conventional transmission like the Honda IMA. Instead, it uses a Power Split Device, which is a simple planetary gearset that combines the power from two electrical motor/generators (MG1 and MG2) and the gasoline engine. The entire PSD assembly is directly geared to the wheels, without a torque converter or clutch. This is similar to an electric car, which can have direct gearing to the wheels without a clutch or torque converter, because electrical motors can exert maximum torque at 0 RPM. A video is worth thousand words The Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive, like an electric car, can move the car under electric power alone. How the Power Split Device transmission in the Hybrid Synergy Drive works: http://www.eahart.com/prius/psd Personally, I like the Toyota system better. It's MUCH simpler than the Honda IMA system, with just 22 moving parts in the Prius PSD vs. about 100 in the Accord Hybrid's normal 5-speed automatic transmission gearbox and torque converter. The PSD eliminates the need for multiple gear ratios (which means no gear-shifting wear-and-tear), does not have a hot-running torque converter (which means the tranny fluid lasts A LOT longer), and no clutch or CVT belts. That means the Toyota system has far fewer potential failure points and would be more durable. P/S So a Prius will have less wear and tear issues. So to those who have always maintain that a prius is expensive to own because of battery failure, that's BULLSHIT!!! like someone who had mentioned above there are HELL lots of Prius running around the world that is easily more than 10 years of age. Like I have always said don't bash for the sake of bashing. If you wanna bash, please read or else you will be making a fool out of yourself. Prius Hybrid Synergy Drive Added on February 21, 2012, 6:02 pm QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 01:24 PM) The Dashboard is so so so boring... bet myvi dash is nicer If the Prius battery died, the engine won't be able to start at all, so how can the engine get over heat???Added on February 21, 2012, 1:36 pm Agree... but there is a downside to this technology... you see By doing this the car is 100% depending on the nimh battery pack and the car cannot move without it as when the time the priusC nimh cell die the compressor and water pump cannot run... your car engine will over heat... Insight is called parallel hybrid and it rely on independent power source... meaning the Insight nimh battery only assist nothing more.. (hence called IMA) when the nimh pack die/expired the car can drive like normal and uses normal starter to start the car... the car will run like normal 1.3l car... until you get the pack replace... this is much fool proof... and in hard time where no $$$ change nimh pack can rely on petrol at the mean time... dont tell me prius NIMH can last lifetime... no battery can last a lifetime it is a matter of time... and still wondering why UMW-T still give only 3 years battery warranty??? Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive is combining parallel hybrid and series hybrid, that is why it call "Synergy", it means it lets the two hybrid systems work together. This post has been edited by Kiding: Feb 21 2012, 06:02 PM |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 03:53 PM) You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required... if you not engineer no need to explain and conjure up new concepts.. In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid... let me explain Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work) HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime... so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah) Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch... you cannot start and drive the car in the parking lot purely on electric motor. that's why it's a mild hybrid. This post has been edited by ar188: Feb 21 2012, 06:41 PM |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 21 2012, 06:41 PM) QUOTE Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch... amazing explanation, suddenly toyota become part hybrid and honda IMA is acterly full hybrid. |
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suddenly i malu to know although i got 2011 honda city E spec and 2.4 akod, but represented by fanboys like this..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 05:50 PM) So what the fuss about if the NiMH pack fail totally time? cant you sense it? one is trying very very hard to imply/hint that toyota hybrid is inferior than the opponent The car cannot start, cannot move, then just tow away, and change a new pack. Even ordinary car, time belt can be broken after 80-100k KM, and car cannot even start also. Radiator leaking, water pump leaking, car also cannot start. Just tow away and get it fix. Every ordinary car after 8-10 years, parts also got spoil here, spoil there. Choose a car just because can start even if NiMH pack fail time that may only happen once after 8 years or even longer period? NiMH fails, just change one. What is the worry? I don't find this is a good reason to say this is a good car or not. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 21 2012, 08:32 PM) cant you sense it? one is trying very very hard to imply/hint that toyota hybrid is inferior than the opponent Bro, i think he forget that his hybrid still got the Toyota atkinson engine attach on to the hybrid (Same as Honda or any hybrid).. So would be double up whammy if really happens... By the way.. How much the battery cost ah? Hybrid is good at Japan coz they usually have tax rebate for eco friendly, 5 years cycle of scrap & upgrade their cars (If not where u get the half-cut so many?), but here how long normally people will change their cars? That why Japs dont care about the battery, as at the time the battery died the car already scrap and in someone chop shop already... This post has been edited by littlefire: Feb 21 2012, 09:14 PM |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 06:46 PM) amazing explanation, suddenly toyota become part hybrid and honda IMA is acterly full hybrid. My balls almost fall down when I suddenly saw Honda IMA become a full hybrid system... Lol.... N Toyota synergy become a "part hybrid".... lol....Added on February 21, 2012, 9:17 pm QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 21 2012, 09:11 PM) Bro, i think he forget that his hybrid still got the Toyota atkinson engine attach on to the hybrid (Same as Honda or any hybrid).. So would be double up whammy if really happens... This not just applied to hybrid... It apply to all car even all others electrical goods... Until furnitures.... By the way.. How much the battery cost ah? Hybrid is good at Japan coz they usually have tax rebate for eco friendly, 5 years cycle of scrap & upgrade their cars (If not where u get the half-cut so many?), but here how long normally people will change their cars? That why Japs dont care about the battery, as at the time the battery died the car already scrap and in someone chop shop already... Most developed country don't k after 5 years life cycle of the product... Don't have to see far, look at our kiasu neighbour... This post has been edited by BuFung: Feb 21 2012, 09:17 PM |
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QUOTE(littlefire @ Feb 21 2012, 09:11 PM) Bro, i think he forget that his hybrid still got the Toyota atkinson engine attach on to the hybrid (Same as Honda or any hybrid).. So would be double up whammy if really happens... honda malaysia's 5k service is hurting them.By the way.. How much the battery cost ah? Hybrid is good at Japan coz they usually have tax rebate for eco friendly, 5 years cycle of scrap & upgrade their cars (If not where u get the half-cut so many?), but here how long normally people will change their cars? That why Japs dont care about the battery, as at the time the battery died the car already scrap and in someone chop shop already... the engine has 8 spark plugs, vs prius' 4. insight's maintenance is almost twice of prius. u gotta love honda malaysia. elsewhere, it would have been on par. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 05:50 PM) So what the fuss about if the NiMH pack fail totally time? He (someone's cousin) is chun high, u em sai tiew him jor geh.The car cannot start, cannot move, then just tow away, and change a new pack. Even ordinary car, time belt can be broken after 80-100k KM, and car cannot even start also. Radiator leaking, water pump leaking, car also cannot start. Just tow away and get it fix. Every ordinary car after 8-10 years, parts also got spoil here, spoil there. Choose a car just because can start even if NiMH pack fail time that may only happen once after 8 years or even longer period? NiMH fails, just change one. What is the worry? I don't find this is a good reason to say this is a good car or not. |
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QUOTE(0300078 @ Feb 21 2012, 07:28 PM) sometimes when ppl are blinded by their own favourite thing and they dun see things clearly.... T or H doesn't pay us to be fanboyism, instead we paid our hard-earned money to own one. is just like when u first fall in love, u will always think that ur other half is the best in the world. Cannot argue cannot blame.... is just human nature. Paid 100k then still provide free self service to promote and posting fanboyism comment? Unless they do pay us or give special discount for fanboyism, then different story. Every car has its own drawback and advantage. If A car has advantage over B car, even we own B car, we just said A is better built car. One likes the car, because you like the car, not because the car is the best or better than others. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 10:14 PM) T or H doesn't pay us to be fanboyism, instead we paid our hard-earned money to own one. U fanboi not cannot.Paid 100k then still provide free self service to promote and posting fanboyism comment? Unless they do pay us or give special discount for fanboyism, then different story. Every car has its own drawback and advantage. If A car has advantage over B car, even we own B car, we just said A is better built car. One likes the car, because you like the car, not because the car is the best or better than others. But dont fanboi until so 7 chun, can? |
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:01 PM) honda malaysia's 5k service is hurting them. acterly i'm quite dissatisfied with this 5k thing also.. my yaris 10k service SC say no problem if pay for better oil. my JDM toyopet send to TOMS, use RM99 toyota japan lub also 10k interval. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:20 PM) acterly i'm quite dissatisfied with this 5k thing also.. Use mineral oil for 10k Toyota sc mah die die accept ur car.....my yaris 10k service SC say no problem if pay for better oil. my JDM toyopet send to TOMS, use RM99 toyota japan lub also 10k interval. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:20 PM) acterly i'm quite dissatisfied with this 5k thing also.. Fully syn also 5K? my yaris 10k service SC say no problem if pay for better oil. my JDM toyopet send to TOMS, use RM99 toyota japan lub also 10k interval. Better use mineral oil. 5K is very quick to achieve, for people that travel regularly, almost every 2 month changing oil then. Last time, I changed oil for every 12k-14K, using semi-syn, drive for 6-7 years, mileage >160K KM, no problem at all. Engine still in tip top condition. |
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 21 2012, 10:24 PM) Fully syn also 5K? of cos i didn't try their full syn since they say still need to bring back after 5k.. Better use mineral oil. 5K is very quick to achieve, for people that travel regularly, almost every 2 month changing oil then. Last time, I changed oil for every 12k-14K, using semi-syn, drive for 6-7 years, mileage >160K KM, no problem at all. Engine still in tip top condition. but yeah, 5k very fast for me, cos i use 3k per month, so dun tell me every 2mths service once meh? last time my 407 also reach 140k in like 3+ years crazy.... but their service interval is 20k using total full syn oil. now each car less cos rotate every few days.. |
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a bunch of idiots argue here and there...wanna save fuel go take bus la, or buy viva or myvi la...argue mat 7 la....how old are you people? you people no life one ah? get a life lah....there are many better things in life....
really damn pity you people....your family must be sakit hati la...you people always in front monitor argue here and there....no need go to school ah you young kids? or no need to work? no motivation? the time you people spend on internet if use on your career or study, sure success one....argue here and there for what? song ah? your family leh? no family ah? next time you wanna argue on internet please think of your parents face first.....not malu meh? listen to me, honda toyota all good car....and yeah...dont forget.....go get a life. |
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QUOTE(Felixchui80 @ Feb 21 2012, 10:49 PM) a bunch of idiots argue here and there...wanna save fuel go take bus la, or buy viva or myvi la...argue mat 7 la....how old are you people? you people no life one ah? get a life lah....there are many better things in life.... One of the most sohai comments ever see here in fnf... really damn pity you people....your family must be sakit hati la...you people always in front monitor argue here and there....no need go to school ah you young kids? or no need to work? no motivation? the time you people spend on internet if use on your career or study, sure success one....argue here and there for what? song ah? your family leh? no family ah? next time you wanna argue on internet please think of your parents face first.....not malu meh? listen to me, honda toyota all good car....and yeah...dont forget.....go get a life. |
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hmm I drive a kancil 660 1996 clock 250,000km no problem also maaa.... (psst auto summore muahahaha)
whats your point again?? oh... I was born in the 80's muahahaha!!! hmm... Prius Facelift uses black interior... looks better now PriusC Interior still grey... got Toyota SEG feel... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 22 2012, 01:13 AM |
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Hey guys! Check out my first impression on the Prius C! It's gonna hit the road soon!
http://www.simonhar.com/2012/02/toyota-pri...nk-way-you.html |
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QUOTE(cheesyken @ Feb 22 2012, 12:33 AM) RED RED RED!! Added on February 22, 2012, 9:33 am QUOTE(simonhar @ Feb 22 2012, 04:04 AM) Hey guys! Check out my first impression on the Prius C! It's gonna hit the road soon! good review on the C!...i always wanted to know the boot space compare to myvi! http://www.simonhar.com/2012/02/toyota-pri...nk-way-you.html This post has been edited by leftist: Feb 22 2012, 09:33 AM |
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24 Feb 2012 can view Prius C at Toyota Showroom?
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Today i somehow learnt that loooooongggg posts with various technical jargons doesnt necessariy translates to a good post..
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Feb 22 2012, 03:54 PM) Today i somehow learnt that loooooongggg posts with various technical jargons doesnt necessariy translates to a good post.. +1 ... and it get u more n more confused.. end up u give up... HSD = Part hybrid...im confused.. Heard that the c will be coming in 7 colors? |
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Anyone have the table of the maintenance / service cost for Prius C ??
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 03:53 PM) You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required... inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid... let me explain Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work) HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime... so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah) Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch... Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice... congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think... you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator... if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too... not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed... |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM) inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC? TS has said Honda IMA is design on basic and saving cost... now Prius C even cheaper.. donna wat to say liao.. created all kind of own term.. "part hybrid"... Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice... congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think... you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator... if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too... not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed... to me, Honda Hybrid system still got miles to catch Toyota.. |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM) inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC? Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid...Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice... congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think... you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator... if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too... not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed... IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/ Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me) |
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Stop those Term u created urself "Full Link Hybrid" to imply that is a Full Hybrid... and stop creating "part hybrid" to make more forumers confuses...
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:15 PM) Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid... Don't call me stupid, you Jessie Ooi clone...IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/ Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me) you think everyone stupid like u ar?? u said Honda's hybrid is a FULL Hybrid...you did not say FULL LINK hybrid... got difference between the two terms ok??? "Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)" are u trying to suggest that HSD wont work well unless in a Prius?? you are a fool... |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM) I am correcting you, hence the phrase "you are a fool..."QUOTE think at the moment , best hybrid ever..... at least it is nice to look at 0-100km in 4.7 seconds and has a FC or 3l/100km... now that is what we call technology! |
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Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March.
My First impression The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi. Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight! Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only Build quality looks good and solid. The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car. Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service. so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider. The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June. This post has been edited by Kiding: Feb 23 2012, 07:07 PM |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM) Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March. Congrats bro... Wat is ur colour? Yes agree wt u.. Definitely good for single... My First impression The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi. Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight! Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only Build quality looks good and solid. The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car. Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service. so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider. The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM) Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March. Battery warranty only one year ?? then i dun consider to buy My First impression The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi. Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight! Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only Build quality looks good and solid. The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car. Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service. so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider. The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 08:09 PM) I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh! QUOTE(2323 @ Feb 23 2012, 08:53 PM) Battery warranty only one year ?? then i dun consider to buy Prius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery!However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set". |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 09:36 PM) I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh! electrical modification ......dont play play. car might caughtfirePrius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery! However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set". |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 09:36 PM) I book the silver color, initially wanna get the white one, but the lime white pearl color need to add RM800, day light robbery meh! Think Taiwan should have their own battery.... Oh ya.. If I remember correctly, local battery tax/duty is pretty high here...Prius hybrid battery is RM11.5K, SA told me that Prius C is slightly cheaper than it. everytime when ask the hybrid battery questions, they will try to avoid to answer, UMW looks like no confident for the hybrid battery! However, Prius battery cost is around RM5K in Taiwan, so if there is such a huge price gap, I believe people will try to bring in the "water set". |
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QUOTE(2323 @ Feb 23 2012, 08:53 PM) Battery warranty only one year ?? then i dun consider to buy In Malaysia, UMW Toyota provides 3 years warranty or 100,000km which also covers the battery.![]() One of the concern of hybrid car is on the battery replacement cost. In November 2010, there is an article from the STAR on this issue for Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid in Malaysia. Let see what they said on this. The manufacturer’s warranty for the vehicle, including the hybrid system and battery, is three years/100,000km, whichever comes first, like that of all vehicles purchased from UMW Toyota Motor. Based on our experience in the United States, the largest hybrid vehicle market in the world, Toyota has not replaced a single battery due to wear and tear since the Prius went on sale in 2000. The Prius have been used as taxis since 2000, beginning in North America, and they operate under the harshest conditions with frequent starts/stops, low speed driving, and long idling. The taxis with the highest mileage have clocked more than 400,000km without any hybrid component failure. In Australia, the Prius taxi with the highest reported mileage was 550,000km, and it only needed a battery replacement at 500,000km due to a low voltage reading. The cost of batter in malaysia given today’s exchange rate and duty structure, it will be RM11,500 This will give some ideas on the maintenance cost, especially on the battery replacement for Toyota Prius Hybrid and Honda Civic Hybrid. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:25 PM) It is rather interesting to see people argue and yet can't come to a simple conclusion. To make it easy to explain, a full hybrid system means the electric motor can propel the on its own without the aid of the engine. It can also move the car from a standstill and run completely on battery alone. That is the Prius.The Insight cannot move from standstill without assistance from the engine as the integrated motor is not powerful enough to do so. The integrated motor is to assist the engine and not replace it totally like the Prius. It only can run on the electric motor for very short distance on cruising speed and this confuses most people as they can't tell the difference between the 2 technology. These are the only 2 important differences when it comes to hybrid, whether you can power from 0km/h with or without assistance from the engine. These are the 2 biggest differences between hybrid systems that's worth discussing about. The next gen Prius will add a 3rd element into the equation with the term Plug-in Hybrid where you can run 100% on a separate battery charged from home plug or charging station without the need of the engine (limited to below 25 mph). This post has been edited by sleepwalker: Feb 23 2012, 10:32 PM |
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QUOTE(sleepwalker @ Feb 23 2012, 10:30 PM) It is rather interesting to see people argue and yet can't come to a simple conclusion. To make it easy to explain, a full hybrid system means the electric motor can propel the on its own without the aid of the engine. It can also move the car from a standstill and run completely on battery alone. That is the Prius. There is only 1 person in the entire thread cannot come to conclusion of it... And still creating term like part hybrid, full link hybrid etc to syiok sendiri... =.=". Which I think wasting gas to explain to... Just wanna stop those long article to confuses more forumers...The Insight cannot move from standstill without assistance from the engine as the integrated motor is not powerful enough to do so. It only can run on battery for very short distance during cruising. These are the only 2 important differences when it comes to hybrid, whether you can power from 0km/h with or without assistance from the engine. These are the 2 biggest differences between hybrid systems that's worth discussing about. The next gen Prius will add a 3rd element into the equation with the term Plug-in Hybrid where you can run 100% on a separate battery charged from home plug or charging station without the need of the engine (limited to below 25 mph). |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 10:33 PM) There is only 1 person in the entire thread cannot come to conclusion of it... And still creating term like part hybrid, full link hybrid etc to syiok sendiri... =.=". Which I think wasting gas to explain to... Just wanna stop those long article to confuses more forumers... yes, thats worse than fanboi, fanboi dont make up fact. |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM) inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC? Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice... congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think... you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator... if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too... not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed... QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM) How dare you talked about superior luxury hybrid car like that. Should've warn u earlier. QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 06:32 PM) Chicken picture, bangla avatar, patriot summore. Prius C sales is in safe hands QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 09:41 PM) Couldn't be as hot as compressor off in traffic jams Added on February 23, 2012, 10:50 pmLeaf is coming. So we're all nonsense Full Hybrid vs Full Electric anyone? This post has been edited by watonk: Feb 23 2012, 11:23 PM |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 23 2012, 09:41 PM) No modification if someone able to bring in original battery pack, then the battery should be able to be replaced by reconnecting the wires. of course it is better let the professional to do it. |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 10:33 PM) There is only 1 person in the entire thread cannot come to conclusion of it... And still creating term like part hybrid, full link hybrid etc to syiok sendiri... =.=". Which I think wasting gas to explain to... Just wanna stop those long article to confuses more forumers... no the best is toyota salesman twist the term around.. |
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just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Feb 23 2012, 10:33 PM) There is only 1 person in the entire thread cannot come to conclusion of it... And still creating term like part hybrid, full link hybrid etc to syiok sendiri... =.=". Which I think wasting gas to explain to... Just wanna stop those long article to confuses more forumers... support BuFung kaw kaw |
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM) just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter aerodynamic purpose ma..but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!! |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM) Just paid a visit to Subang Toyota showroom, saw an orange color Prius C already display in the show room, but it is not allowed to perform test drive, test drive is only available in March. i think the 1 year warranty is for the 12V battery that traditionally sits in the engine bay of most carMy First impression The prius is definitely bigger than Myvi, it is not like Myvi which is fat and short feeling (No offend to Myvi fan, just personal feeling), the body shape is more streamline than Myvi. Cabin space is slightly bigger than Myvi, but feeling not as wide as Vios, back seat leg room is quite good, I'm 172cm and it still has around 8-10cm space when sit in the back seat, head room also pretty ok, felt like still has 8-10cm space in between. however, it is still a small car, fit in five persons will be very tight! Dashboard is kinda simple, quality feel like so so only Build quality looks good and solid. The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! Retail price is 94,307 without insurance, those who has 55% NCD will only need to pay 95,5xx to own this car. Maintenance is 1K,5K,10K,20K,30K interval, maintenance cost is around RM100+ per service. so overall, it is for single or young guy who doesn't have big family, wanna try the high tech driving and save the earth, don't mind the small boot space and interior, than it is the car that can seriously consider. The waiting list of this car is currently around 3 months, I paid a RM800 booking fee (fullly refundable), if test drive is good, will get it in May/June. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM) The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!! Bro, i think the battery 1 year waarnty is for the normal battery not the hybrid battery one...that one is 3 years...btw, I own a Prius...so, about this car, i have quite some experience and knowledge la...not like some Insight ppl here who never ever sat in one b4 but come with their standard anti-toyota nonsense... in reality, Honda and Toyota both have different directions in their car philosophies... Toyota markets its realiability although this reputation has been in tatters since the fiasco in the US in 2009....but still way more realiable than a Honda car... Honda menwhile targets the younger crowd and is definitely better than Toyota if you're a person who prefers good handling in a car... so, Toyota attracts an older crowd and Honda attracts the younger ones or the petrolheads... so, there is no argument in this area about both brands... but for Hybrids, it's a different matter altogether...Toyota has the clear advantage and is definitely a better technology... and this is where Honda loses out simply because of its car philosophy... hybrid owners are usually ppl who are more enviromentally aware and not petrolheads and does not mind a reduced handling comfort in a car... Thus, to hear shit from Honda Insight guys saying that handling is bad in a Prius and Prius has no power is just silly... the handling part is for sure correct (why would u take corners aggressively in a hybrid though?) but the Power part is nonsense since Toyota has cleverly given a Power mode for its car and most Honda Insight owners do not know this i guess (henceforth u get such misinformed posts in this thread) and are saying this based on traditional knowledge of Toyota cars... so, there u go! buy a Prius if you are not planning to take corners aggressively and want to save fuel...any other reasons, please go get yourself a Ferrari or something... |
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'Toyota attracts an older crowd'...
Oldman choose Camry. Younger generation likes hybrid and of course they will drive slow (till end up at the barrier). Added on February 24, 2012, 9:22 am QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM) just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter Yeah. Even if they wanna cost down, at least they could reuse Vios or Altis or Yaris dashboard. but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!! This post has been edited by watonk: Feb 24 2012, 09:22 AM |
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QUOTE(infi_nity @ Feb 24 2012, 08:53 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so, there u go! buy a Prius if you are not planning to take corners aggressively and want to save fuel...any other reasons, please go get yourself a Ferrari or something... all those basher, why not a test drive for prius? test drive is free. |
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Added on February 24, 2012, 10:11 am QUOTE(alrasla @ Feb 23 2012, 10:19 PM) In Malaysia, UMW Toyota provides 3 years warranty or 100,000km which also covers the battery. Think Toyota Hybrid NIMH is 3 years... it is by panasonic company that develop for them... it is custom size and shape...![]() One of the concern of hybrid car is on the battery replacement cost. In November 2010, there is an article from the STAR on this issue for Toyota Prius and Honda Civic Hybrid in Malaysia. Let see what they said on this. The manufacturer’s warranty for the vehicle, including the hybrid system and battery, is three years/100,000km, whichever comes first, like that of all vehicles purchased from UMW Toyota Motor. Based on our experience in the United States, the largest hybrid vehicle market in the world, Toyota has not replaced a single battery due to wear and tear since the Prius went on sale in 2000. The Prius have been used as taxis since 2000, beginning in North America, and they operate under the harshest conditions with frequent starts/stops, low speed driving, and long idling. The taxis with the highest mileage have clocked more than 400,000km without any hybrid component failure. In Australia, the Prius taxi with the highest reported mileage was 550,000km, and it only needed a battery replacement at 500,000km due to a low voltage reading. The cost of batter in malaysia given today’s exchange rate and duty structure, it will be RM11,500 This will give some ideas on the maintenance cost, especially on the battery replacement for Toyota Prius Hybrid and Honda Civic Hybrid. Honda give 5 years for NIMH battery and made by SANYO it is normal D-cell Battery soldered together (much like notebook battery soldering) in serial... I think they have around 88 D cell NIMH in Insight (Maybee more / maybee less) haha There is 12v Acid Battery at all car (Hybrid/or not hybrid) at the moment Honda give 24month warranty for 12v lead acid battery and toyota give 12 month... outside replacement usually give 6 month This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Feb 24 2012, 10:11 AM |
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FULL HYBRID kuasa to wife I take FULL ELECTRIC can zap flies....
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Feb 24 2012, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 24 2012, 09:19 AM) 'Toyota attracts an older crowd'... if anything, insight's interior aint too good to start with. the door for one is worse than honda city, not to mention the driver armrest, which is a joke.Oldman choose Camry. Younger generation likes hybrid and of course they will drive slow (till end up at the barrier). Added on February 24, 2012, 9:22 am Yeah. Even if they wanna cost down, at least they could reuse Vios or Altis or Yaris dashboard. |
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Feb 24 2012, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 24 2012, 02:08 AM) just went to showroom saw the prius C....the interior is really ugly with the advance meter change to the Japan prius original 17in rim lor.. but the facelift prius really impress me, the front part is sooo nice :thumb: but the rim...aiyo...with alloy rim, why still but a ulgy rim cover!!! |
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Feb 24 2012, 10:32 AM
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Feb 24 2012, 10:45 AM
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SAD cause TNB uses fossil fuel also..... but I can get free electricity @ office
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Feb 24 2012, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 24 2012, 10:45 AM) SAD cause TNB uses fossil fuel also..... but I can get free electricity @ office haha..wait till they watch u charge your car for 8 hours. dont forget, EV cars have 2 methods of charging. the house charging takes a loooooooongg time. |
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Feb 24 2012, 11:13 AM
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cannot charge at home (not yet) stay at apartment maaa car park park way below hahaha no power outlet... wonder if the management allowed me to do hacking and wiring hahaha
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Feb 24 2012, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 24 2012, 10:28 AM) if anything, insight's interior aint too good to start with. the door for one is worse than honda city, not to mention the driver armrest, which is a joke. "recycling used plastic panels for the interior to save the environment by reducing carbon footprint" is just a marketing cover up for "cost cutting" |
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Feb 24 2012, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Feb 24 2012, 11:28 AM) if anything, insight's interior aint too good to start with. the door for one is worse than honda city, not to mention the driver armrest, which is a joke. what about cr-z? i guess it pawns all lower end hybrids in terms of design and build quality (maybe interior quality loses out to prius but meh :/ )Added on February 24, 2012, 11:25 am QUOTE(turbocharged @ Feb 24 2012, 10:23 AM) there was once i saw a prius accelerated in straight line, and i must say, i am impressed. its really powerful. the instance torque/lure reminds me of a caldina turbo. just that moment. i've driven my dad's prius a couple of times and basically it feels like any normal 1.8 car. (am driving civic 1.8 for the record) one thing i like about prius is how smooth the ride is and the 'futuristic shaped' dashboard lol. one thing though, when you floor the pedal on the highway dont expect low fc from it -.- funny thing was when my dad floored the pedal and the petrol went down kinda fast, he was like 'wtf? why hybrid also makan minyak?' hahaha i literally all those basher, why not a test drive for prius? test drive is free. This post has been edited by Kalist0: Feb 24 2012, 11:25 AM |
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Feb 24 2012, 12:00 PM
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Well, I own a honda insight and I do agree Prius is generally a better hybrid car
But for the price difference of 40k++, I am willing to accept for all the shortcoming of an Insight when being compared to Prius. As for Prius C, the specs were great and being priced at the right point... probably would be a better deal than getting an insight in general but then, there are some downside of Prius C that you may need to compromise such as the car size & space, interior, warranty period of the hybrid battery, etc There is no perfect budget car in the world All I would say is different car cater for different needs.. |
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Feb 24 2012, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(n00b123 @ Feb 24 2012, 12:00 PM) Well, I own a honda insight and I do agree Prius is generally a better hybrid car This is the most well said post for the past couple of days... unlike other folks keep on bashing around.But for the price difference of 40k++, I am willing to accept for all the shortcoming of an Insight when being compared to Prius. As for Prius C, the specs were great and being priced at the right point... probably would be a better deal than getting an insight in general but then, there are some downside of Prius C that you may need to compromise such as the car size & space, interior, warranty period of the hybrid battery, etc There is no perfect budget car in the world All I would say is different car cater for different needs.. "There is no perfect budget car in the world All I would say is different car cater for different needs.." -- > totally agree. I would add: toyota or honda You get the car YOU LIKE. Not if someone said its better or worst. |
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Feb 24 2012, 02:21 PM
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Went to Toyota Showroom in Kajang, but no Prius C to even see.
Anyone know which showroom got Prius C for viewing and possible test drive? |
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Feb 24 2012, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(electron @ Feb 24 2012, 08:11 AM) i think the 1 year warranty is for the 12V battery that traditionally sits in the engine bay of most car I had double check with the SA, he told me it is 1 year warranty for hybrid battery, but I also remain skeptical about it because I felt my SA knowledge about this car is not so well, probably someone can get confirmation from the authority.Regarding the hybrid battery, although it is NiMH battery, the way hybrid car charging and discharging the battery is not same as mobile phone or laptop, instead, hybrid car use hypercycle technique to extend the battery life. normally Prius use about 10% of Depth of Discharge (DoD), below is the DoD and charging cycle number (life time) so if DoD is 10%, you can discharge the battery up to 300,000 cycles compare to normal NiMH battery 500 cycles. If the usage is 1 cycle per KM, the battery would last about 300,000KM, adding the high temperature weather in Malaysia that caused battery recharge cycle to reduce 20% less, it is estimate can last 240,000KM, if you travel 20,000KM per year, the battery can last about 12 years. Some few tips to prolong the hybrid battery life 1. Don't drain you battery to the low level (although the computer will prevent it, but abuse still may possible), such as use EV mode extensively 2. Don't set the AC temperature too low in the hot day when stuck in traffic jam, because it is possible to drain your battery to low level, which increase the DoD. |
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Feb 24 2012, 02:28 PM
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Think you can see PriusC in bugger UMW direct showroom like in Subang Jaya there
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Feb 24 2012, 09:29 PM
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Feb 24 2012, 10:27 PM
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Feb 24 2012, 10:52 PM
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yesterday saw the actual car...but dont know why no mood request test drive after saw the interior layout...especially the dashboard...potong stim lar
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Feb 24 2012, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(hawk @ Feb 24 2012, 02:21 PM) Went to Toyota Showroom in Kajang, but no Prius C to even see. ooo.. still dont have car there? i tot of paying a visit to kajang or seremban showroom tmr..Anyone know which showroom got Prius C for viewing and possible test drive? This post has been edited by wwl86: Feb 24 2012, 11:16 PM |
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Feb 25 2012, 03:03 AM
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Feb 25 2012, 03:26 AM
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53 miles per gallon equal ?
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Feb 25 2012, 07:34 AM
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Interior quite boring....
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Feb 25 2012, 08:36 AM
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honda jazz hybrid coming soon only rm85k woo... im just saying...
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Feb 25 2012, 03:58 PM
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Feb 25 2012, 05:07 PM
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Finally get to see the Prius C today.
l think the dashboard and seats don't look as bad as in pictures. But it's the steering and door panels that look really awful. They don't feel good to touch too. The rear light clear plastic looks terrible in my opinion. Too bad no test drive yet. If you are near Aman Suria, can go have a look. SA also said can get as early as 16th March. ps I don't think it felt like CBU at all. Insight is much better made despite the difference implementation of hybrid usage. |
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Feb 25 2012, 08:38 PM
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went to showroom to have alook. well one thing in my mind : cheap. doesn't even fit into the 90k segment if not for the powertrain. the seats, interior are so freaking ugly omg. went to honda to look at the cr-z and total different league but of course the 20k extra.
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Feb 26 2012, 12:42 AM
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Some reviews on the prius c
Review prius c 'c' ing is believing Kinda like the title of the second one.review so far seems good. |
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Feb 26 2012, 12:49 AM
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Any free gift or discount offer by sa? I was offered 1k discount. Got better deal?
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Feb 26 2012, 01:00 AM
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ceh, not all branches have Prius C
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Feb 26 2012, 08:54 AM
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so far, 1k discount is the best I got too. car can view and test drive at Toyota Balakong.
Personally, I don't feel the interior is that bad maybe because I drive a kancil. cabin sound is quiet, engine push start without sound and cabin sound while driving at speed 80kmh is quiet. |
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Feb 26 2012, 09:51 AM
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want to see this car climb genting after the battery fully exhausted... with 1.5l and smaller bhp and torque... it is relying all the magic in the HSD gearbox lets hope the HSD gearbox can do magic.... and see how is the Genting climbing experience...
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Feb 26 2012, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 26 2012, 09:51 AM) want to see this car climb genting after the battery fully exhausted... with 1.5l and smaller bhp and torque... it is relying all the magic in the HSD gearbox lets hope the HSD gearbox can do magic.... and see how is the Genting climbing experience... Like lastime... off aircond, off radio, off just about anything else... then only got power?I wonder if adding my portable chargers helps |
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Feb 26 2012, 11:09 AM
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97k gets you a good hybrid engine.
forget looking inside any toyota interior... I especially felt the "nice" plastic at the door with a slight trip of cloth.... such an "admirable" design... and I meant it with sarcasm if nobody knows. |
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Feb 26 2012, 11:39 AM
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damn sarcastic hahahaha!!!
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Feb 26 2012, 02:25 PM
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Saw the car in Toyota showroom in Larkin, JB today.
The interior quality is not that much inferior to my current Civic 8th gen. The issue, if any, is the new styling of white color hard plastic with green fluorescent strip at the doors and half of the dashboard area. This styling might be too futuristic for some, but could be good for people with a taste for novelty. Quality of all plastic (black and white) parts are better than seen on photos. But the steering wheel handle is plastic, not the leather type in normal Prius. I did not get to see the default radio unit (show car is equipped with the optional dvd-avn system), so can't commend on its quality. Other than that, the front seat cabin space is comparable to my civic 1.8 (surprisingly), but rear seats are much more limited. Default configuration include free aeroback and spotlight. Cushion materials comprise three type of textiles, no idea how it works in real life. So I end up signing the contract, should be able to get the car in mid-march. |
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Feb 26 2012, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(hawk @ Feb 26 2012, 08:54 AM) so far, 1k discount is the best I got too. car can view and test drive at Toyota Balakong. I'm driving a Kancil too, so I also can accept the cabin built quality, actually the Prius C dashboard design is Kancil alike Personally, I don't feel the interior is that bad maybe because I drive a kancil. cabin sound is quiet, engine push start without sound and cabin sound while driving at speed 80kmh is quiet. Bro, did you ask the availability of this car? how soon can get the car if I place order at Balakong branch? |
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Feb 26 2012, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 25 2012, 05:07 PM) Finally get to see the Prius C today. Awful car overall, the steering handling feel is sucky, i won't even want to touch thr steering at all, it is tough and lousy qualityl think the dashboard and seats don't look as bad as in pictures. But it's the steering and door panels that look really awful. They don't feel good to touch too. The rear light clear plastic looks terrible in my opinion. Too bad no test drive yet. If you are near Aman Suria, can go have a look. SA also said can get as early as 16th March. ps I don't think it felt like CBU at all. Insight is much better made despite the difference implementation of hybrid usage. |
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Feb 26 2012, 05:20 PM
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how come these insight fellas like got serious allergy toward toyota hybrid wan ar?
both brands also i like since i got 2 cars each from both brands. |
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Feb 26 2012, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 26 2012, 02:32 PM) I'm driving a Kancil too, so I also can accept the cabin built quality, actually the Prius C dashboard design is Kancil alike Balakong branch sa said 3 months ... Bro, did you ask the availability of this car? how soon can get the car if I place order at Balakong branch? |
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Feb 26 2012, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Feb 26 2012, 05:20 PM) how come these insight fellas like got serious allergy toward toyota hybrid wan ar? I think many would rather pay the original 103k if they improve the seats slightly, better colored dashboard cum door panel and a better steering. Like Vios last time... All black interior for slightly more, and the ugly one for few Ks cheaper.both brands also i like since i got 2 cars each from both brands. Added on February 26, 2012, 9:58 pm QUOTE(hawk @ Feb 26 2012, 06:16 PM) The SA in Aman Suria told me Mid March but first come first serve. Limited unit... I think all sold liao.This post has been edited by andrekua2: Feb 26 2012, 09:58 PM |
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Feb 26 2012, 09:57 PM) I think many would rather pay the original 103k if they improve the seats slightly, better colored dashboard cum door panel and a better steering. Like Vios last time... All black interior for slightly more, and the ugly one for few Ks cheaper. some pay for the technology some pay for better interior.. if you like interior like dash/steering, then wait for the jazz hybrid lor..Added on February 26, 2012, 9:58 pm The SA in Aman Suria told me Mid March but first come first serve. Limited unit... I think all sold liao. |
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Feb 26 2012, 10:30 PM
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still confius to choose this car or crz.help me!!
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Feb 26 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(zulancer @ Feb 26 2012, 10:30 PM) Please correct me if im wrong, for my understanding is Toyota is using Fully Hybrid system (the air-cond still on during jam) and Honda is only partial Hybrid (once car stop or jam the air-cond will off)... please help me to give more understanding on hybrid which once is better on FC |
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Feb 27 2012, 12:40 AM
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if im not mistaken, it doesn't fare much. from what i see from forums it would probably only a be a difference of around 1 to 2 cents for fuel consumption. crz pawns prius-c flat down but of course the extra 20k is there. quality wise, hats off to honda. i remember asking wtf are there blue rings inside prius c, the salesman told "glow in the dark"......
again, it depends on your need if you have a family then crz no go for u. but if you single, just take CRZ and dont care about fetching others! haha This post has been edited by Kalist0: Feb 27 2012, 12:41 AM |
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Feb 27 2012, 04:53 PM
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Japanese Prius Aqua review
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/i...227_511773.html Prius C HSD Left side is Atkinson engine, right side (yellow color) is Power Split Device (PSD) + (Motor Generator) MG1 +MG2 ![]() PSD + MG1 + MG2 ![]() The stator coils in Prius gen2 and gen3 has been replaced with Edgewound coils which result in lower resistant and better efficiency. ![]() |
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Feb 27 2012, 04:58 PM
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Feb 27 2012, 12:40 AM) if im not mistaken, it doesn't fare much. from what i see from forums it would probably only a be a difference of around 1 to 2 cents for fuel consumption. crz pawns prius-c flat down but of course the extra 20k is there. quality wise, hats off to honda. i remember asking wtf are there blue rings inside prius c, the salesman told "glow in the dark"...... bro.again, it depends on your need if you have a family then crz no go for u. but if you single, just take CRZ and dont care about fetching others! haha just look at it....CRZ looks so handsome |
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Feb 27 2012, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 27 2012, 04:53 PM) PSD + MG1 + MG2 ![]() |
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Feb 27 2012, 06:04 PM
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is this "part hybrid" able to fight with "full link hybrid" or not kah??
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Feb 27 2012, 06:09 PM
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good luck
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QUOTE(alxdc @ Feb 27 2012, 07:57 PM) Let's make it simple. Don't talk about both hybrid technology. Both are hybrid. Different designs. To make it simple. Prius and Prius c give the best fuel efficient compare to insight. No doubt about it. But insight still save fuel compare to a normal car. So both cars win on fuel saving. Talking about crz bro. And insight doesn't really feel like 1.6. It's pretty sluggishYou should compare with prius c and insight. Not crz. Crz is a 2 door sports hybrid. So is different caragory. Honda Insight have the best exterior and interior design especially with the futuristic interior design. U wont get bored of it. Next month Honda bringing in the 2012 facelift. With more improved tuning and stunning new look. Google it Honda insight 2012 and take a look. Insight is spacious. Set in with 5 adults no problem. Insight is powered with a 1.3 ivtec with electronic motor. take a test drive. Insight power doesn't feels like 1.3 rather feels like a 1.6. Insight we have here only comes with 2 airbags. Prius c. Exterior and interior design looks obsolete Especially the interior. To make things worse the cheap plastic the dashboard and door panel is terrible. I realised that Prius C concentrate more on fuel saving and safety. Prius c comes with 7 airbags and powered with 1.5 engine. No doubt Prius c give better fuel Savin compare to insight. My advise. Test drive both cars. Feel the car and u will find your answer. Ok if u have the budget and focus more on fuel saving, then go for PRIUS RM140k. Added on February 27, 2012, 7:10 pm Or Honda jazz hybrid? Launching soon. http://paultan.org/2012/02/27/spied-honda-...ng-coming-soon/ |
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already book for crz cvt.now feel peace of mind...honda~the power of dream
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Feb 27 2012, 10:54 PM
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My verdict is to test drive the car..ull be surprised by how the screens and displays are stunning enuff to take ur mind of the fugly aircond buttons panel for a bit..saving fuel cud never have been more fun to be honest..
Either way, i guess there will be pros and cons for both the prius and the insight..Toyota as usual goes for the more conservative design in the prius c, which however is still slightly better than their other models in their line ups i feel.. |
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Wats d interest rate for this car?
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Mar 1 2012, 07:38 PM
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Questions for those who has booked or bought the Prius C:
1) Any discount or promo from the SA? 2) worth to spend 2990 for the entertainment system? 3) final price if you don't mind sharing. thx. |
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QUOTE(mv-jr @ Mar 1 2012, 07:38 PM) Questions for those who has booked or bought the Prius C: I didn't ask for any discount, more focus on trading in my old car for good price. So paid 97000 OTR.1) Any discount or promo from the SA? 2) worth to spend 2990 for the entertainment system? 3) final price if you don't mind sharing. thx. As for the DVD-AVN, I tried the one in Prius, the reverse camera is quite awkward to use (maybe I am not used to it), and also I already has my own portable GPS (with like unlimited updates |
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QUOTE(pweic @ Mar 2 2012, 08:44 AM) I didn't ask for any discount, more focus on trading in my old car for good price. So paid 97000 OTR. Is there a reverse camera included in the DVD-AVN options? What about Entune?As for the DVD-AVN, I tried the one in Prius, the reverse camera is quite awkward to use (maybe I am not used to it), and also I already has my own portable GPS (with like unlimited updates |
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Hmm I have a good deal for Prius C
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QUOTE(pweic @ Mar 2 2012, 08:44 AM) I didn't ask for any discount, more focus on trading in my old car for good price. So paid 97000 OTR. Is the DVD-avn option available For the prius?i thought the prius comes with a default screen with no gps option?As for the DVD-AVN, I tried the one in Prius, the reverse camera is quite awkward to use (maybe I am not used to it), and also I already has my own portable GPS (with like unlimited updates |
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QUOTE(aztechx @ Mar 2 2012, 01:03 PM) Is the DVD-avn option available For the prius?i thought the prius comes with a default screen with no gps option? After checking the Toyota website, it is available as optional accessory but for the price of RM2990, its too much.Don't really need a reverse camera for such a small car. I am more concern with the interior built quality now as most comment I heard from people who have seen the real car says the interior quality is really bad. Yet to see it for myself. |
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The interior really nothing to shout at seriously, although feature wise it is not bad. If no tax exemption, the price will be doubled & I wonder who will buy?
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I am not expecting some Lexus quality built dashboard, but for a Rm100k car, its at least have to be well built and solid. Design is very subjective matter. I don't mind hard plastic dashboard as my Honda Odyssey comes with hard plastic dashboard and door panel too. Just as long as the quality is solid and won't rattle or break in the long term.
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 2 2012, 02:09 PM) I am not expecting some Lexus quality built dashboard, but for a Rm100k car, its at least have to be well built and solid. Design is very subjective matter. I don't mind hard plastic dashboard as my Honda Odyssey comes with hard plastic dashboard and door panel too. Just as long as the quality is solid and won't rattle or break in the long term. I spent quite sometime in the showroom checking the plastic, its about the same quality as my civic or my brother's altis. It is the color and pattern that turn some people off I guess. |
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the price of prius C is very expensive.. do u think its worth considering that countries like USA or germany are selling it dirt cheap
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weekend coming..
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BeFun.. TQ. will go and have a look
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Guys... 1utama have the car on road show. enjoy it...
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they will show it at miri in 23-25 march
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 3 2012, 12:47 PM) How is the built quality interior especially? Some say the seat is very poor. What about the plastic interior? Good or Bad? i'm not an expert, but can say seat is ok. plastic interior.. most car use plastic,i don't mind. but in prius c, bad color choice! SA also can't comment.. should copy paste from prius 1.8 i think.. |
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Mar 3 2012, 12:47 PM
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this car look sharper compare to previous toyota series...
more like skyline wannabe... somehow skyline is from nissan |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 3 2012, 12:47 PM) feels plasticky, and in fact feels cheaper than city/vios. just my rm0.02. the seat feels like typical myvi seat. now you offended toyota salesman how... it is not MYVI seat it is TOYOTA... very comfortable where gotlook like myvi feel like myvi but not MYVI.... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Mar 3 2012, 06:12 PM |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 3 2012, 12:47 PM) feels plasticky, and in fact feels cheaper than city/vios. just my rm0.02. the seat feels like typical myvi seat. The reason why the Prius C plastic feeling is different probably due to it is made from eco base plastic or recycle materials. I know most parts in Prius are actually made from recycle materials, I believe Prius C probably have the same. |
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QUOTE(Kiding @ 3 Mar 2012, 18:31) The reason why the Prius C plastic feeling is different probably due to it is made from eco base plastic or recycle materials. I know most parts in Prius are actually made from recycle materials, I believe Prius C probably have the same. you mean it's bio plastic, recyclable, not from recycled material, right?![]() |
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QUOTE(xyes @ Mar 3 2012, 07:00 PM) maybe it mean those material can be recycled..Toyota prius c orginal accessories |
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the material on dashboard is made from recycle plastic....
I dont like the way they choose the artificial leather imprint on the dash and grey colour... they should choose like prius and insight black insted... the grey make it more er.... tasteless |
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Mar 3 2012, 10:52 PM
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Right now most of the carmaker used most of the recycleable materials for their vehicle, including engine and platform, even the interior material is almost 100% recycleable.
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Basically i dont mind recycle plastic but the grey colour and the fake leather pattern... make it fake and cheap...
It is like proton trying hard to be mercedes when they put fake plastic wood trim on the dash hahaha Look Toyota have spend alot designing cars.. exterior this car look not bad really got taste but why spoil the interior it is like a half bake thing full of rush job... |
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Who is hungry for a fish?
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Well, I am yet to see the car. I hope its not that bad as what some people have describe. I am seriuosly thinking of changing mu wife's Altis 1.6 to a Pruis C.
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ 4 Mar 2012, 00:11) Basically i dont mind recycle plastic but the grey colour and the fake leather pattern... make it fake and cheap... not sure on other model, but on both Prii, it's bio plastic, recyclable, they're not equivalent to recycled plastic, it's the lifecycle carbon footprint reduction that made it so bad... i don't like them too, but they've a harder surface than the Prius 2009 though... i also wonder why beige on Prius C.It is like proton trying hard to be mercedes when they put fake plastic wood trim on the dash hahaha Look Toyota have spend alot designing cars.. exterior this car look not bad really got taste but why spoil the interior it is like a half bake thing full of rush job... ![]() |
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Just went to see Prius c on a roadshow. The dashboard design and interior feeling.... Turn me off. ~sigh~
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Mar 4 2012, 04:20 PM
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Is there wood trim for the Prius C?
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 4 2012, 02:09 PM) Just went to see Prius c on a roadshow. The dashboard design and interior feeling.... Turn me off. ~sigh~ Agree... Even the seat fabric material just so so...A 100k car interior a bit low class. Insight have a much luxury interior then Prius C. Some more 4 month waiting period, that time I may change my mind to other car already. |
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Hi anyone have suggestion. As this is my first car purchase. Im thinking of Myvi SE , Prius C or Vios . Which is a better buy ? Vios got promotion of cash rebate RM1680 in sunway and RM250 tesco voucher and others no promotion.
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QUOTE(timeonce @ Mar 4 2012, 04:51 PM) Hi anyone have suggestion. As this is my first car purchase. Im thinking of Myvi SE , Prius C or Vios . Which is a better buy ? Vios got promotion of cash rebate RM1680 in sunway and RM250 tesco voucher and others no promotion. among myvi, prius c & vios of cos prius c a better car. but u can't really compare myvi against prius c because u aren't comparing apple to apple... u are like comparing peanut to an apple and ask which one more filling?why didn't compare against insight ? |
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 4 2012, 04:36 PM) Agree... Even the seat fabric material just so so... Dun need 4 months. The seconds I'm sitting inside with that price tag, it's a no no already. Toyota should have consider the design. Viva with hard plastic everywhere is ok becoz of the price tag. 100k for that. Macam not worth already. Sorry for Prius C fan. Just my 2 cents. Dun bombard me ya. KekekeA 100k car interior a bit low class. Insight have a much luxury interior then Prius C. Some more 4 month waiting period, that time I may change my mind to other car already. |
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 4 2012, 05:31 PM) Dun need 4 months. The seconds I'm sitting inside with that price tag, it's a no no already. Toyota should have consider the design. Viva with hard plastic everywhere is ok becoz of the price tag. 100k for that. Macam not worth already. Sorry for Prius C fan. Just my 2 cents. Dun bombard me ya. Kekeke vios, city, and insight doesnt have soft plastics if IIRC.even the prius uses hard plastic. |
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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Mar 4 2012, 07:59 PM) I sit in one yesterday. The fabric and dashboard is worst than Vios. The colour scheme is totally off the chart. how is it worse? the vios also uses plastic dash isnt it?fabric i und la...cuz vios leather seats ma..but dashboard and door panel, the vios and insight aint too good. the insight's armrest is also a joke for a 100k car. like persona arm rest |
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Mar 4 2012, 09:02 PM) how is it worse? the vios also uses plastic dash isnt it? Its interior feels cheap, and is cheap actually. Low quality plastics and worst of all the lines on the dashboard. Do remember that without tax exemption this is a 120+k car yet this is what you get. Vios uses hard plastic too but when you sit in it, it doesnt give you that "cheap car" feel that u grt from prius c.Engine aside, insights interior looks or feels way more solid then prius c, probably because of the design.fabric i und la...cuz vios leather seats ma..but dashboard and door panel, the vios and insight aint too good. the insight's armrest is also a joke for a 100k car. like persona arm rest This post has been edited by Kalist0: Mar 4 2012, 08:36 PM |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:34 PM) Its interior feels cheap, and is cheap actually. Low quality plastics and worst of all the lines on the dashboard. Do remember that without tax exemption this is a 120+k car yet this is what you get. Vios uses hard plastic too but when you sit in it, it doesnt give you that "cheap car" feel that u grt from prius c.Engine aside, insights interior looks or feels way more solid then prius c, probably because of the design. for me, 'quality' is really subjective.to some, even plastic wood look alike is 'premium'anyway, one have to understand, these cars are actually very costly to make, imagine a 10k battery plus 2 motor generators in addition to a regular engine. not to forget the ECVT and complicated ECU and regenerative brakes. want the premium one, get the ct-200h. |
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 4 2012, 04:36 PM) Agree... Even the seat fabric material just so so... as told by toyota SA balakong. within 3 month u can get the car subject to colour avaibilityA 100k car interior a bit low class. Insight have a much luxury interior then Prius C. Some more 4 month waiting period, that time I may change my mind to other car already. This post has been edited by wkho555: Mar 4 2012, 08:56 PM |
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Mar 4 2012, 09:42 PM) for me, 'quality' is really subjective.to some, even plastic wood look alike is 'premium' Yup dats y if vios could make its cheap interior look 'ok' then a car like prius c should do better. And honestly, the new facelifted prius' interior has the ugly fake leather designs on the plastic which makes it look fugly. Just my opiniOn tho. anyway, one have to understand, these cars are actually very costly to make, imagine a 10k battery plus 2 motor generators in addition to a regular engine. not to forget the ECVT and complicated ECU and regenerative brakes. want the premium one, get the ct-200h. |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 4 2012, 09:16 PM) Yup dats y if vios could make its cheap interior look 'ok' then a car like prius c should do better. And honestly, the new facelifted prius' interior has the ugly fake leather designs on the plastic which makes it look fugly. Just my opiniOn tho. Which car "cheap" plastic look so high class in ur view ah? |
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:02 PM) how is it worse? the vios also uses plastic dash isnt it? The grey colour of the plastic dashboard makes it look cheap. The blue stripe on the dashboard and front doors make it look cheaper.fabric i und la...cuz vios leather seats ma..but dashboard and door panel, the vios and insight aint too good. the insight's armrest is also a joke for a 100k car. like persona arm rest Added on March 4, 2012, 9:51 pm QUOTE(ckk125 @ Mar 4 2012, 08:42 PM) for me, 'quality' is really subjective.to some, even plastic wood look alike is 'premium' We never complain about the technology in the car. We are simply saying that the interior design is a bit off the chart. It feels cheap. It does not match the modern and striking exterior.anyway, one have to understand, these cars are actually very costly to make, imagine a 10k battery plus 2 motor generators in addition to a regular engine. not to forget the ECVT and complicated ECU and regenerative brakes. want the premium one, get the ct-200h. This post has been edited by victor_hoh: Mar 4 2012, 09:51 PM |
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 4 2012, 09:16 PM) Yup dats y if vios could make its cheap interior look 'ok' then a car like prius c should do better. And honestly, the new facelifted prius' interior has the ugly fake leather designs on the plastic which makes it look fugly. Just my opiniOn tho. I think what kalist0 is very very true. For Prius C fans please don't take it the wrong way.. I am not against prius c, in itself IMO its one the best value-for-money cars available at that price range offering so much advantages (HSD, 7 airbags.. etc). However we need to admit the interior does falls short of what most people would expect from a 90k+ cars.I am currently driving a vios, when i went to toyota showroom and sat on prius c i immediately felt the bad choice of colours (this could be individual preference though) and the quality of the plastics. Initially i thought maybe i am just being sensitive... then i went to try sit on the vios in the showroom.. omg.. i can really feel the difference!. Its true that the dashboards for every cars are mostly made of plastics.. but they could differ in their quality... same with our water tumblers compared against mineral water bottles etc we are using daily. |
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probably more money was spent on the technology rather than the interior..
to me, toyota mostly concentrate on their interior feel rather than the looks of the car, because to me, most of their models has that grown-up feeling..i can't say uncle/aunty car because nissan especially teana and selphy already won that award...no hard feelings.. i guess some frankenstein problem happened thus the plastic feel and look of the interior of the prius c... well, the car aint in the higher class category cars so i guess toyota got no choice but to go with this kind of interior look lol.. but toyota no need worry so much...still got people buy the car despite what everybody says... no matter what toyota bring out...sure got people buy This post has been edited by Jinster: Mar 4 2012, 11:02 PM |
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Sorry for the interior...
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QUOTE(Kalist0 @ Mar 5 2012, 12:01 AM) uhmm shouldn't say high class, more like solid. if you look inside forte,vios or city, the plastics give you a sense of solidness. but in prius c... feels like myvi I agree with you...it is not like we complaint on the plastic... it is OK using plastic... most modern card has replace PU and use plastic... I have no objection on plastic but... how I put it... it is like a half bake car... on 1 hand you have great Hybrid system.. exterior of the car have those special fins that deflect wind to make it more aerodynamic and stylo but when open the door it all crash... some how the designers seems to failed to notice that drivers see the interior most of the time... cant they just design a better interior... since they already put a start stop button there surely they notice the trend of a better interior... now it is like a myvi with a start stop button interior kinda of feel... I have went to the showroom to see the car... have you squeeze the front 2 seats you can literally touch the metal frame inside it is so thin... the sales man say they make it thinner so have more leg room... but seriously if go long journey dont know will the seat sag or not... |
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QUOTE(watonk @ Mar 5 2012, 12:14 AM) Sorry for the interior... Agree for that, technology expires in no time...![]() A huge sum of what u paying will be invested on the technology *take note technology expires in no time... Probably remain to my proton then see what kind of car the market will offer in the next season. |
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Tuah is coming up...
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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Mar 5 2012, 01:16 AM) Agree for that, technology expires in no time... Next season... short term or long term??Probably remain to my proton then see what kind of car the market will offer in the next season. Short term : Jazz Hybrid... maybee Korea coming in.... Mid Term : EV... Electric Vehicle when they figure out how to fully charge a 400++ volt battery in 5 to 10 min... then can consider Long term : FCX Clarity or Hydrogen Fuel Car is looking pretty bright... Added on March 5, 2012, 8:53 am QUOTE(Jim.tan @ Mar 5 2012, 01:23 AM) I have nothing to say on this car except it usesCFE engine (soft turbo like those used in volvo engine) Traction Control which is way overdue in all Malaysian car... 2 or maybee more airbags which is also way overdue for local made car... ABS hope it is now a standard brake not optional... 3 or maybee more STARS from NCAP (I think we can do better) more quality button and switches (Please dont cut cost in this area) better NVH hahaha not going to happen in proton... This post has been edited by calvin_ng: Mar 5 2012, 08:53 AM |
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Hmmm... so far the reception of this car in Malaysia is very negative towards the interior design and quality. Although is fully assemble in Japan, I would like to see how bad the japanese have done to the Prius C.
I almost wanted to change my wife's Altis to the Insight but the low roof and tight passenger space turn me off. Now the Prius C seems to have everything going for it except the interior design and built quality. |
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QUOTE(lightning69 @ Mar 5 2012, 05:17 PM) Hmmm... so far the reception of this car in Malaysia is very negative towards the interior design and quality. Although is fully assemble in Japan, I would like to see how bad the japanese have done to the Prius C. I just had a look at the Prius C and i must say despite being a Toyota man, im utterly shocked at the interior design and quality. This has gotta be the worst product that has come out of Toyota in a long time. The specs and engine may be good but the design and interior quality is typical Proton standard. Interior space is very lacking and i doubt ull get any drive satisfaction from this car. I almost wanted to change my wife's Altis to the Insight but the low roof and tight passenger space turn me off. Now the Prius C seems to have everything going for it except the interior design and built quality. Even if the car costs RM50K, i wouldnt touch it. Let alone RM97K. Toyota should sack their entire design team as the models coming out in recent years have been a total washout in terms of design. Just look at their flagship Camry and ull see how backward they have become. Toyota's brand loyalty will be severely tested in the coming years if they dont stop this rot. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Mar 5 2012, 05:43 PM |
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looking at the pictures of the interior, it reminds me of cherry eastar
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may i know which showroom can view the car?
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today bring my already retired HOD to see the car... he like the dashboard and he is 70 years old!!!
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 5 2012, 06:41 PM) I just had a look at the Prius C and i must say despite being a Toyota man, im utterly shocked at the interior design and quality. This has gotta be the worst product that has come out of Toyota in a long time. The specs and engine may be good but the design and interior quality is typical Proton standard. Interior space is very lacking and i doubt ull get any drive satisfaction from this car. i believe it is safe to say, even PROTON SATRIA has a nicer interior and looks more solid then Prius C..Even if the car costs RM50K, i wouldnt touch it. Let alone RM97K. Toyota should sack their entire design team as the models coming out in recent years have been a total washout in terms of design. Just look at their flagship Camry and ull see how backward they have become. Toyota's brand loyalty will be severely tested in the coming years if they dont stop this rot. Added on March 5, 2012, 11:13 pm QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Mar 6 2012, 12:03 AM) today bring my already retired HOD to see the car... he like the dashboard and he is 70 years old!!! probably because his definition of cool is still stucked in the 80s Added on March 5, 2012, 11:14 pm QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Mar 5 2012, 09:49 AM) Next season... short term or long term?? actually, i was hoping VW would bring in the Jetta Hybrid. Should be around 120-130k if they bring it in, but doubt it will be anytime soon Short term : Jazz Hybrid... maybee Korea coming in.... Mid Term : EV... Electric Vehicle when they figure out how to fully charge a 400++ volt battery in 5 to 10 min... then can consider Long term : FCX Clarity or Hydrogen Fuel Car is looking pretty bright... Added on March 5, 2012, 8:53 am This post has been edited by Kalist0: Mar 5 2012, 11:14 PM |
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Mar 6 2012, 12:00 AM
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In europe Diesel is really famous and good... so hybrid there did not really kick off that hard... but over here since our diesel still stuvk in Euro2 Hybrid is getting good... also thanks to our tax exemption
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Mar 6 2012, 01:13 AM
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Went to Toyota no cars but today got the cars in the showroom
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Mar 6 2012, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(mv-jr @ Mar 1 2012, 07:38 PM) Questions for those who has booked or bought the Prius C: 1. Discount of RM700 if you or your family member (spouse) are Toyota Merit member.1) Any discount or promo from the SA? 2) worth to spend 2990 for the entertainment system? 3) final price if you don't mind sharing. thx. 2. The DVD player only play movie when the car is at 'P'. Normal driving will disable it. Therefore, can only used for GPS and listen to music / radio. SA told me. 3. Depends on whether you have item 1 or not. |
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Mar 6 2012, 09:50 AM
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1. max i get discount RM600 and my SA push till so front I can get my car end of the month.
2. 2990 not worth unless you really want it and do not want to install aftermarket..I think 2990 can spend some where else for better ICE 3. Depends item 1 and 2.... |
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Mar 6 2012, 10:47 AM
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toyota bangsar (ex modesto) - test drive available
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Mar 6 2012, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(mv-jr @ Mar 1 2012, 07:38 PM) Questions for those who has booked or bought the Prius C: 1. RM1,000 Rebate for LYN Members..1) Any discount or promo from the SA? 2) worth to spend 2990 for the entertainment system? 3) final price if you don't mind sharing. thx. 2. Individual >.> for me i would go for it look more cool 3. Depend on item 1 and 2 |
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Mar 6 2012, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Mar 6 2012, 09:50 AM) 1. max i get discount RM600 and my SA push till so front I can get my car end of the month. I really hope uve given this some very serious thought. I think the Prius C is really poor in design. 2. 2990 not worth unless you really want it and do not want to install aftermarket..I think 2990 can spend some where else for better ICE 3. Depends item 1 and 2.... |
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Mar 6 2012, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 01:15 PM) I really hope uve given this some very serious thought. I think the Prius C is really poor in design. poor in interior design. even the door centre support, you will see a black strip of sticker... wonder why they use a sticker at that position? visually will make the in between gap look nicer (becoz the car is orange color and window pane there is black?) just weird to see a black sticker strip. you can see it when you open up the door. |
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Mar 6 2012, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 01:15 PM) I really hope uve given this some very serious thought. I think the Prius C is really poor in design. Not all people think Prius C is very bad in design, aesthetic is pretty subjective. on the other hand, FC, safety and technology are more objective, and it wins almost in every aspects except cabin size. people get this car is not totally depend on its appearance. |
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Mar 6 2012, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 01:15 PM) I really hope uve given this some very serious thought. I think the Prius C is really poor in design. diff ppl diff taste.I am okie with that design, if they put cassette player or manually adjust the side mirror like old old saga, then that i really cannot tahan. |
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Mar 6 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Mar 6 2012, 02:17 PM) diff ppl diff taste. Well, for me i guess its the price comparison as always and a value for money proposition. If it was much cheaper, i would have turned a blind eye towards its design and interior plastics but for almost RM100K, i dont think its worth. I am okie with that design, if they put cassette player or manually adjust the side mirror like old old saga, then that i really cannot tahan. But have a read of the following article which gives quite good reviews about the Prius C over the Honda Insight: http://www.cars.com/toyota/prius-c/2012/ex...ws/?revid=58230 For the Americans who are paying only about US$25K for the top of the line Prius C, i would probably have the same view as him. But tell them to pay US$97K for the Prius C and then see what their comments will be like. (dont do a currency conversion since we're comparing against ppl earning & living in the US and not tourists) |
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Mar 6 2012, 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 02:36 PM) Well, for me i guess its the price comparison as always and a value for money proposition. If it was much cheaper, i would have turned a blind eye towards its design and interior plastics but for almost RM100K, i dont think its worth. same thing, you also can tell American to pay US$11 for a cup of Starbucks coffee, what do you think their reaction? "Mother Fxxking" damn not worth it right? but still a lot of ppl in Malaysia like Starbucks coffee. so, get my point?But have a read of the following article which gives quite good reviews about the Prius C over the Honda Insight: http://www.cars.com/toyota/prius-c/2012/ex...ws/?revid=58230 For the Americans who are paying only about US$25K for the top of the line Prius C, i would probably have the same view as him. But tell them to pay US$97K for the Prius C and then see what their comments will be like. (dont do a currency conversion since we're comparing against ppl earning & living in the US and not tourists) |
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Mar 6 2012, 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Mar 6 2012, 02:44 PM) same thing, you also can tell American to pay US$11 for a cup of Starbucks coffee, what do you think their reaction? "Mother Fxxking" damn not worth it right? but still a lot of ppl in Malaysia like Starbucks coffee. so, get my point? So indirectly ure protraying yerself as a fool eh? Ure obviously not getting my point then. Im not refering to Malaysians in general. Im refering to MYSELF and my justification of value for money. We've all been taken for a ride by the Japs for far too long. Yes no doubt they have given us good quality products and a good ride but all that has changed since about 3 years ago when the Korean revival started. And as long as we continue to support the Japs by accepting their vastly inferior spec'd cars, they will continue to feed us with crap. Just look at the upcoming Camry. Toyota actually dares to launch a 2.0L so called '2012 new generation' flagship car that uses the same 2006 engine and the same 4 speed auto gearbox here in Malaysia/Asia. Would they dare to do the same in the US for a similar price? They would be torn to shreads by GM and Chevrolet and be thrown out of the country. But here in Malaysia, we will continue to accept Toyota in all its glory paying super high premiums for practically 'empty' cars while kissing the Toyota emblem to kingdom come. Trust me. These are the words of a die hard Toyota man who has had 9 years of good service from Toyota. This post has been edited by cybermaster98: Mar 6 2012, 02:54 PM |
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Mar 6 2012, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 02:53 PM) Ure obviously not getting my point then. Im not refering to Malaysians in general. Im refering to MYSELF and my justification of value for money. We've all been taken for a ride by the Japs for far too long. Yes no doubt they have given us good quality products and a good ride but all that has changed since about 3 years ago when the Korean revival started. And as long as we continue to support the Japs by accepting their vastly inferior spec'd cars, they will continue to feed us with crap. blame UMW toyota, not toyota Japan.Just look at the upcoming Camry. Toyota actually dares to launch a 2.0L so called '2012 new generation' flagship car that uses the same 2006 engine and the same 4 speed auto gearbox here in Malaysia/Asia. Would they dare to do the same in the US for a similar price? They would be torn to shreads by GM and Chevrolet and be thrown out of the country. But here in Malaysia, we will continue to accept Toyota in all its glory paying super high premiums for practically 'empty' cars while kissing the Toyota emblem to kingdom come. Trust me. These are the words of a die hard Toyota man who has had 9 years of good service from Toyota. and pls dont look down on jap car just because korean car has flashy outlook. if just a flashy outlook is needed, buy alfa romeo. tak habis habis bashing the jap car, come on. call UMW toyota ( which your epf or mutual funds has a stake in it). not UMW Wanan con your money, its malaysian gomen wanna con your money. UMW also tied with Perodua, yes, so UMW is sort of GLC also. |
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Mar 6 2012, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 02:53 PM) So indirectly ure protraying yerself as a fool eh? Your thinking is weird honestly speaking, I'm telling you aesthetic is subjective, just like coffee taste is subjective, some ppl like it, some ppl don't like it. some ppl even willing to spend US$11 to get a cup of coffee.Ure obviously not getting my point then. Im not refering to Malaysians in general. Im refering to MYSELF and my justification of value for money. We've all been taken for a ride by the Japs for far too long. Yes no doubt they have given us good quality products and a good ride but all that has changed since about 3 years ago when the Korean revival started. And as long as we continue to support the Japs by accepting their vastly inferior spec'd cars, they will continue to feed us with crap. Just look at the upcoming Camry. Toyota actually dares to launch a 2.0L so called '2012 new generation' flagship car that uses the same 2006 engine and the same 4 speed auto gearbox here in Malaysia/Asia. Would they dare to do the same in the US for a similar price? They would be torn to shreads by GM and Chevrolet and be thrown out of the country. But here in Malaysia, we will continue to accept Toyota in all its glory paying super high premiums for practically 'empty' cars while kissing the Toyota emblem to kingdom come. Trust me. These are the words of a die hard Toyota man who has had 9 years of good service from Toyota. You said you are referring to yourself and you think Prius C is not worth it for you, but QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 6 2012, 01:15 PM) I really hope uve given this some very serious thought. I think the Prius C is really poor in design. it seems like you are asking ppl to think twice to get it, just like you see a guy's gf and you think she is damn ugly and ask the guy not to marry her even though she has good heart and willing to take good care of the guy. |
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Mar 6 2012, 03:07 PM
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this thread obviously have more basher than supporter... and this suppose a Prius C thread...
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Mar 6 2012, 03:37 PM
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Mar 6 2012, 03:51 PM
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I do agree that UMW is screwing us up with toyota cars for malaysian. If we continue buying toyota car, UMW will coninue screwing us.
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Mar 6 2012, 04:22 PM
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FYI UMW Toyota is not TOYOTA or any Subsidiary of TOYOTA
UMW is a local Malaysian company that is the sole distributorship of TOYOTA cars... like Cycle&Carriage to Merc last time... is UMW screwing us up... maybee. maybee not... as long as there is high volume of sales why not... it is simple actually why vios getting lower and lower grade it is because consumer demand cheaper and cheaper grade... from the only E and S spec priviously not we got S/E/TRD and J and J being the most cheapo one... Toyota AVANZA did not even go thru NCAP rating not even qualified... this is what we called 3rd world country cars and like it or not we are catagorized by the japs as 3rd world country... (Avanza dont sell in Singapore) OK back to topic... is UMW screwing us up... YES... why cause we like to be screwed!!! when got demand then got supply laaaa since you all treat UMW TOYOTA like the kings of all cars... back to PriusC... is this car worth it... YES (pretty much) 1. It has great Hybrid system 2. It looks good (although like MYVI) but hell good city car!!! 3. It is Below 100K Beside from the Ugly 1980's dashboard and interior basically everything is good down to safety... it is a NCAP rated 5 star car!!! and you dont pay Excise and Import Tax which is so called your pre-paid fuel subsidy for 10 years!!! This car is worth every penny spend... (PS this car is cheaper in Malaysia than in Singapore) |
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Mar 6 2012, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Mar 6 2012, 04:22 PM) FYI UMW Toyota is not TOYOTA or any Subsidiary of TOYOTA UMW is a local Malaysian company that is the sole distributorship of TOYOTA cars... like Cycle&Carriage to Merc last time... is UMW screwing us up... maybee. maybee not... as long as there is high volume of sales why not... it is simple actually why vios getting lower and lower grade it is because consumer demand cheaper and cheaper grade... from the only E and S spec priviously not we got S/E/TRD and J and J being the most cheapo one... Toyota AVANZA did not even go thru NCAP rating not even qualified... this is what we called 3rd world country cars and like it or not we are catagorized by the japs as 3rd world country... (Avanza dont sell in Singapore) OK back to topic... is UMW screwing us up... YES... why cause we like to be screwed!!! when got demand then got supply laaaa since you all treat UMW TOYOTA like the kings of all cars... back to PriusC... is this car worth it... YES (pretty much) 1. It has great Hybrid system 2. It looks good (although like MYVI) but hell good city car!!! 3. It is Below 100K Beside from the Ugly 1980's dashboard and interior basically everything is good down to safety... it is a NCAP rated 5 star car!!! and you dont pay Excise and Import Tax which is so called your pre-paid fuel subsidy for 10 years!!! This car is worth every penny spend... (PS this car is cheaper in Malaysia than in Singapore) |
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Mar 6 2012, 07:40 PM
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Beside the not so fancy interior, is Prius C really that ugly and not worth the price?
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Mar 6 2012, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(hawk @ Mar 6 2012, 07:40 PM) Based on my research:Con - Not so fancy interior - Cargo and backseat space (front seat is actually spacious) - Second hand value?? (I talked to some secondhand car trader, but no one is sure how the battery affects it) Pro - Fuel economy - Safety (7 airbags, VSC, ABS, TSC etc.) - Reliability (Japan CBU) Acceleration is average (0-100km/h 10.6-11.3sec), handling is better than prius but nothing to write home about. |
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QUOTE(pweic @ Mar 6 2012, 07:58 PM) Based on my research: battery price wont be an issue since lots off ppl drive hybrid for sure the price will go down due to large production.Con - Not so fancy interior - Cargo and backseat space (front seat is actually spacious) - Second hand value?? (I talked to some secondhand car trader, but no one is sure how the battery affects it) Pro - Fuel economy - Safety (7 airbags, VSC, ABS, TSC etc.) - Reliability (Japan CBU) Acceleration is average (0-100km/h 10.6-11.3sec), handling is better than prius but nothing to write home about. plus somehow compatible battery with bigger capasity will coming out soon This post has been edited by wkho555: Mar 6 2012, 08:48 PM |
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Mar 6 2012, 10:58 PM
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Shall we just start off LYN Prius-C gang?
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Mar 6 2012, 11:51 PM
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Hmmm.. Is anybody actually concerned about Prius C's fuel consumption? I tried looking for plenty of websites but i couldn't get any real life driving FC results. I went for a test drive a few days back and this is what I got.
Prius C fuel economy test drive. Averaged 21.4km/L over a period of 25 mins drive. I forgot to turn it on to ECO mode during the 1st 10 mins, hence the bad fuel economy. And this is what I got for test driving on the same route with the Prius 3rd Gen. Hope the people from bolehland could share their results here with their hybrid cars. Thanks. |
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QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 6 2012, 02:56 PM) blame UMW toyota, not toyota Japan. Bro,and pls dont look down on jap car just because korean car has flashy outlook. if just a flashy outlook is needed, buy alfa romeo. tak habis habis bashing the jap car, come on. call UMW toyota ( which your epf or mutual funds has a stake in it). not UMW Wanan con your money, its malaysian gomen wanna con your money. UMW also tied with Perodua, yes, so UMW is sort of GLC also. Do u even know me ah? Go check out the history of my posts on LYN. Im a much bigger Toyota supporter than you are. So for me to actually bash Toyota, u can imagine how disappointed i am with the current crop of vehicles coming out of them. Yes pricing we can blame UMW Toyota. But do u also blame them for the 4 speed GB and the 2006 generation engine for the upcoming 2012 2.0L Camry? Is that UMW's fault? Common bro. Open your eyes. I was like you supporting Toyota all the way and bashing everybody else till i realised that they have been actually taking us all for a ride by giving us practically empty cars while charging us super high prices. Ill always value Toyota for the superb after sales service and quality but thats about it. I didnt really enjoy driving my car. It was just a point to point empty car. There was no joy and satisfaction from the car itself. |
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Mar 7 2012, 08:04 AM) Bro, yes i know, i did follow your post, you have a 8years old vios in good condition.Do u even know me ah? Go check out the history of my posts on LYN. Im a much bigger Toyota supporter than you are. So for me to actually bash Toyota, u can imagine how disappointed i am with the current crop of vehicles coming out of them. Yes pricing we can blame UMW Toyota. But do u also blame them for the 4 speed GB and the 2006 generation engine for the upcoming 2012 2.0L Camry? Is that UMW's fault? Common bro. Open your eyes. I was like you supporting Toyota all the way and bashing everybody else till i realised that they have been actually taking us all for a ride by giving us practically empty cars while charging us super high prices. Ill always value Toyota for the superb after sales service and quality but thats about it. I didnt really enjoy driving my car. It was just a point to point empty car. There was no joy and satisfaction from the car itself. my point is, UMW toyota is the culprit. go check toyota USA for real camry spec. its all malaysian con malaysian kind of job. btw, accord always has 5 speed gb, but not without its own disadvantages. UMW dares to con you, why not Honda malaysia? because UMW is GLC, again. |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Mar 6 2012, 04:22 PM) back to PriusC... is this car worth it... YES (pretty much) wow suddenly can support toyota hybrid already??! 1. It has great Hybrid system 2. It looks good (although like MYVI) but hell good city car!!! 3. It is Below 100K Beside from the Ugly 1980's dashboard and interior basically everything is good down to safety... it is a NCAP rated 5 star car!!! and you dont pay Excise and Import Tax which is so called your pre-paid fuel subsidy for 10 years!!! This car is worth every penny spend... (PS this car is cheaper in Malaysia than in Singapore) Added on March 7, 2012, 9:00 am QUOTE(turbocharged @ Mar 7 2012, 08:53 AM) yes i know, i did follow your post, you have a 8years old vios in good condition. off topic, one thing abt honda must to service at 5k interval. toyota and nissan can service at 10k. really leceh..my point is, UMW toyota is the culprit. go check toyota USA for real camry spec. its all malaysian con malaysian kind of job. btw, accord always has 5 speed gb, but not without its own disadvantages. UMW dares to con you, why not Honda malaysia? because UMW is GLC, again. This post has been edited by ar188: Mar 7 2012, 09:00 AM |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 7 2012, 08:58 AM) wow suddenly can support toyota hybrid already??! Hilarious bro.... Added on March 7, 2012, 9:00 am off topic, one thing abt honda must to service at 5k interval. toyota and nissan can service at 10k. really leceh.. 5k... Not about the money... The time u have to spend is Sienz lo.... Zzzzz.... |
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QUOTE(BuFung @ Mar 7 2012, 09:10 AM) Hilarious bro.... that's why i said leceh.. 5k can be reached in 1.5mths of driving, every 2 months see SC is no fun.. thats why i use the teana more now.. 5k... Not about the money... The time u have to spend is Sienz lo.... Zzzzz.... |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 7 2012, 08:58 AM) wow suddenly can support toyota hybrid already??! I support Hybrid be it Honda or Toyota... I dont support Government uses excuse like Excise or Import tax to TAX our car and told us that Fuel subsidy is the show of good faith from the government... The fact is they government just collect advance fuel via Excise/Import tax and AP....Added on March 7, 2012, 9:00 am off topic, one thing abt honda must to service at 5k interval. toyota and nissan can service at 10k. really leceh.. I also do not support car company that screw consumer... from the trend I see Toyota is no longer the TOYOTA last time that focus on Quality etc etc. it is now a money making company that produce car that is cheap and lousy but use the Toyota Badge and Brand to rip consumer off so UMW can benifits... UMW belong to UMNO and BN... yep crony |
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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Mar 7 2012, 10:10 AM) I support Hybrid be it Honda or Toyota... I dont support Government uses excuse like Excise or Import tax to TAX our car and told us that Fuel subsidy is the show of good faith from the government... The fact is they government just collect advance fuel via Excise/Import tax and AP.... watever it is.. their failure rate are still unmatch-able by most of the brand in the market....I also do not support car company that screw consumer... from the trend I see Toyota is no longer the TOYOTA last time that focus on Quality etc etc. it is now a money making company that produce car that is cheap and lousy but use the Toyota Badge and Brand to rip consumer off so UMW can benifits... UMW belong to UMNO and BN... yep crony |
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