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post Feb 18 2012, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 17 2012, 06:25 PM)
Those who say P C better than Insight , have you driven the Prius and Lexus CT200h in ECO mode? The ECO mode is really LOW POWER, LOW POWER on the Prius and CT200h. The P C has ECO mode and normal mode but no sport mode.
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You're a real stupid idiot and one of the many deluded Honda Insight drivers who's too poor to own a Toyota Prius...there are many sour grapes like u around who would argue to the highest heavens that Honda Insight is a superior car despite:
1) having a less powerful engine
2) unrealiable engine just like most Honda cars
3) Insight being a lame entry level car
4) Prius being a above C segment car
5) Insight having one of the most lousy interiors
6) Insight having one of the worst fuel consumption for a hybrid (FYI, Civic Hybrid has better fuel consumption than Insight)
7) Prius being acknowledged worldwide that it is the most fuel efficient car
8) Prius and Lexus CTH being powered by Toyota's Hybrid Synergy technology which is far superior than Honda's outdated/diet Hybrid technology
9) Insight having a most unreliable battery which konks out always...and before u scream at me crying "liar liar, pants on fire" here is the link to it:
http://blog.e-kereta.com/2011/07/honda-civ...-in-ima-system/

Obviously, you have never sat in a Prius or a Lexus before or you would have known about a little something button called POWER MODE which will give Prius a 2.4 litre car performance...and ECO mode has low power??? dont be stupid, ECO mode's only function is to tweak your fuel throttle to being less sensitive and thereby preventing fuel wastage...you will still be able to fly, you just need to press the throttle down a little bit more...
if you still insist on this obvious lie, let's u and me take our respective cars to a highway and i'll put my Prius on ECO mode and you crank up your lame Honda Insight (if that is even possible) and let's see which car bites the dust ok?
dumbass Honda kid...
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post Feb 18 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(cloud8318 @ Feb 18 2012, 12:42 AM)
how can i forget bold/red part?
my altis2.0V is not match with my family Prius, when floor the gas pedal, Prius is no play play one...lol
my friend...no need to pull down ur level for some ppl...is not worth
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bro, sorry but i really cannot stand all these Honda Insight boys...
they go around spreading all kinds of lies to the general public and keep touting Insight as if it is the world's best car...
normal City driving with an Insight will give u only 16km/litre while Prius gives me at least 22km/litre on a bad day...
sorry, but my old Kenari gives me 14-15km/litre and it only cost less than half of a Honda Insight...
it's not a bad car for sure but to try earnestly to claim it is on par or worse, better than Prius is just stupid talk...
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post Feb 18 2012, 01:09 AM

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@ckk125,
alot of all these dumbtarts comes into forums and makes all kinds of silly allegations but at the end of the day, they only naik basikal cause still in skool...some lesen also tarak...say Prius is LOW LOW Power...one of the best features of a Prius is the power of the car when you turn it on, the hybrid system hits you with everything its got...wonderful feeling...


Added on February 18, 2012, 1:13 am
QUOTE(wailup @ Feb 18 2012, 01:04 AM)
this is hard to choose... im going to get a insight, but P C price is tempting too... but the boot space really kill the appetite..
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if you really want to buy a hybrid, then u should definitely get a Prius C...but then again my opinion is biased... smile.gif
the boot space is really a killer i suppose...just go and test drive both cars la and see how it feels...

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post Feb 18 2012, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 01:22 AM)
Deluded and poor huh? tongue.gif

After gone through the real product (Prius & Insight), extensive test drive, scrutinize the fit & finish, observe real world FC for Insight (http://www.fuelly.com/car/honda/insight/2011) and Prius (http://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/prius/2011), and compare their price, nothing can justify the purchase of a Prius over Insight in Malaysia.

Unless buying the badge. Not that brand loyal no good. Only its kinda..... deluded tongue.gif

Yeah Prius is a better hybrid. But RM40K just cant justify that (with plastic rim covers some more doh.gif). And this is only an opinion. Some really want to use up their extra 40K on car (and those nice plastic rim covers brows.gif ).  Go ahead. Calling others poor and stupid is just immature. No need to talk big like u'll drive that car till u die. Its just a temporary car.

Come on guys. U guys should be better than those in Inspira vs Forte, Vios vs City, Saga vs Myvi thread.  doh.gif

Go green together and respect others isnt too hard is it?
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i've seen dumbers like u too many times, keep insisting anyone with a Toyota is only buying because they're a chinaman/loving the badge/displaying blind loyalty...
in truth, the difference between Insight and Prius is worth much more than 40k...
LOL, it's like comparing a Myvi and a Camry...of course there is huge price difference...the ride comfort and the rest doesnt matter eh?
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post Feb 18 2012, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 01:45 AM)
Nice answer from an owner of a 140k car with plastic rim covers... thumbup.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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enjoy the jam with the airconditioning off... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 02:35 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:10 AM)
Sorry can't challenge the Prius 'hotness'...
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Didums...this is what Honda Insight drivers do, when the air cond offs in the middle of the jam, they remember this picture and think "although it is hot with no bloody air cond, at least my car is still better than a Prius which will burn in Kerinchi"...
all the heat will be instantly forgotten... smile.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 03:12 AM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 02:40 AM)
Let put more fuel to it... rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
Toyota recalls 110,000-plus hybrid cars
Posted on 30 June 2011 - 05:37am
TOKYO (June 29, 2011): Toyota said Wednesday it will recall more than 110,000 hybrid vehicles in the United States, Japan and Europe because of faulty transistors in electrical power control boards.

The US market is the most affected, with the Japanese auto giant recalling 45,500 units of its Highlander Hybrid and 36,700 Lexus RX 400h vehicles due to "inadequate soldering".

Toyota said certain transistors could be damaged from heat caused by a large current flow during high-load driving due to the defect.

In most cases the vehicle will enter a fail-safe driving mode, resulting in reduced power in which the vehicle can still be driven for short distances.

In the worst case, the vehicle could stop, Toyota said.

Roughly 3,000 of the same vehicles are also being recalled in Canada, 11,164 in Japan and 15,000 in Europe, a Toyota spokeswoman said.

Toyota said it is "working on" obtaining replacement parts and will notify owners when they are available.

The latest global recall is a another blow for the company struggling to restore its reputation as a quality automaker, having recalled millions of vehicles since 2009 over safety defects. — AFP

Come on. Just admit it could burnt. Oohh my plastic rim covers burnt cry.gif  cry.gif
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American Honda Motor Co. said late Wednesday it will recall 36,656 Civic Hybrids in the U.S. to replace a critical component of the cars' hybrid drive system. The cars, all from the 2006 and 2007 model years, are being recalled to replace the DC to DC power converter which handles charging of the conventional 12-volt battery. The component installed in '06 and '07 models is prone to failure that can lead to engine stalling and headlight outages. No accidents or injuries have been reported in conjunction with the problem.

The automaker said in a statement released late Wednesday that it would begin notifying owners of the affected Civic hybrids on March 18 and that after that date, owners with concerns can also call the company at (800) 999-1009 or get information on-line at www.recalls.honda.com.

Honda spokesman Chris Martin said the recall is a voluntary action prompted by customer complaints of stalling and headlamp outages. In addition to the U.S. cars, it involves 2006 and early 2007 Civic hybrids sold in Japan and Europe -- a global total of about 52,000 vehicles. The problem stems from degradation over time of a small diode that was susceptible to damage during pre-assembly testing in Japan, Martin said.

The recall is not related to ongoing consumer complaints of premature failure of the main nickel-metal hydride battery pack in 2006 through 2008 Civic hybrids. Honda last year offered to upgrade the battery control software for more than 100,000 2006-'08 Civic hybrids in the U.S. and Canada, acknowledging that the cars' batteries could deteriorate and fail prematurely. The software fix was aimed at correcting the problem by bringing the '06 through '08 models up to the standards used in '09 and later Civic Hybrid battery controllers.

Some customers, however, continue to complain on various on-line sites -- including the Edmunds.com Forums -- of problems with Civic hybrid battery failure after the software fix. The Civic hybrid recall comes just a week after NHTSA announced a preliminary investigation into a problem with 2006 and 2007 Toyota Highlander hybrid power inverters after receiving 32 consumer complaints. NHTSA said that in 21 of the complaints it received, motorists alleged that their 2006 Highlander hybrids stalled at highway speeds. That probe is still open and ongoing

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"Just admit it could burnt" <--- this lame grammar made me laugh...but I would expect nothing less from a sour graped Insight owner, green eyed with envy over a superior car... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2012, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Feb 18 2012, 10:47 AM)
majority of the trolls here can't afford a Prius or are not even owners themselves, just family has one or friend's father ownes one or dad's car. Yet talk big big like owners.   whistling.gif
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hahahahaha....u really wanna talk about being able to afford cars?
the guy who could only buy an Insight...tsk tsk...


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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 10:39 AM)
I have a present for you. Shot from the best angle, featuring the ever-glimmering plastic covers...  thumbup.gif
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yup...no Honda Insight has ever crashed before... whistling.gif
only Prius will kill u when you have a heart attack in the middle of Federal Highway...
i would suggest you please drive damn fast on federal highway and then try to crash and see if Honda Insight's safety features will save you on such an impact...
then if you're still alive after that, I'll kowtow to u and say Insight is the best car ever!
waiting for the crash results...

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post Feb 18 2012, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(watonk @ Feb 18 2012, 07:59 PM)
Yea. People with passion for cars usually dont buy by the badge. Most Honda owners have nothing against Proton or Lotus. Only some, owning Toyota felt so superior they look down to others.
Sure got Insight crashed before but not as nasty. And Insight is not the best car ever. whistling.gif
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Like a child's answer, as if you got data on ALL Insight crashes ever...
and also, shameless for trying to use a heart attack incident to bash Prius...the driver is part of our Prius club member...
so please, show some respect to the dead...
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post Feb 23 2012, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 21 2012, 03:53 PM)
You are right the engine run all the time but there is a technology in Insight honda uses in the Accord V6 3.5 that is VCM... but insted like V6 that auto shut off 3 out of 6 cylinder Insight uses VCM to turn all all 4 cylinder in EV mode meaning the engine move but no fuel go in and no combustion... but power loss still there as the Electric motor still turn the engine which is not really required...

In Hybrid world there is no Mild/full hybrid there is parallel and Part hybrid...

let me explain

Parallel Hybrid is what Insight uses

it basically sandwitch the IMA motor in between Engine and Gearbox hence it is called parallel or Full time hybrid (you cannot dis engage either of them the both hybrid need to work fulltime to work)

HSD or Part Hybrid is what Toyota uses

it basically insted of a paralles setup it put in another planatery gearbox which disengage the ICE or Electric motor or uses both it is at the moment the most efficient hybrid as you dont get power loss like parallel hybrid

Some confusion like 4WD... it is the same shit and confuse used in 4WD world... in 4WD world part 4WD is better than fulltime 4WD

and in hybrid HSD or part hybrid is the best setup as the car can decide which to run or both and not forced to run both fulltime...

so let put it this way FULL HYBRID is SALESMAN BULLSHIT!!! (Mainly toyota salesman lah)

Toyota HSD uses part hybrid and Honda uses Full hybrid but since uncle think full hybrid is better toyota salesman quickly twist the fact...!!! ouch...
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inferior technology means inferior technology la...what some more u want to TC?
Honda Insight's biggest selling point as a hybrid is the price alone...if a person has money and has slightly more brains than yourself, Prius is the clear choice...

congratulations, you are the most stupid person in this LYN forum i think...
you have reached the level of Jessie Ooi, the Selayang BN coordinator...
if this thread was a televised event, you would find yourself insinuated with messages calling you all kinds of unsavory names, deservedly so too...
not even Honda salesman dares to twist and try sell such bullshit to its customers...while you have shamelessly sneaked in the term full hybrid into Honda's IMA equation...wonder-f***ing-fool indeed...

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post Feb 23 2012, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:15 PM)
Sigh... I did not say Honda IMA approach is the best... I always stress Toyota HSD is the best... duh... read nicely this is the reason stupid people never bother to read all... hence stupid...

IMA is always a IMA laaa Motor Assist thats all... hence Parallel Hybrid why Parallel cause the setup is link in parallel Engine--IMA Motor--Gearbox
it cannot be separated and both must spin together (Hence a Full link hybrid) not like HSD where the ECU can decide to stop and un-link the Motor/Engine form one another or operate both together (Hence Synergy the name) Also Part hybrid.... alot of people think Full hybrid the best but technology proven this type of full time hybrid has alot of energy loss... why move a engine when you are not using it... but by doing this it is very much like a normal car engine.. except you add a IMA motor between it.. hence when you look at Honda Japan Website you have tons of Hybrid option

like Hybrid Freed / Hybrid Jazz / Hybrid Spike / Hybrid... well basically all the L series engine can be fitted a IMA... so in Honda japan not really a bad idea after all only Malaysia we do not get the full range of Honda offering and limit us to only few hybrid model

http://www.honda.co.jp/auto/

Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)
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Don't call me stupid, you Jessie Ooi clone...
you think everyone stupid like u ar??
u said Honda's hybrid is a FULL Hybrid...you did not say FULL LINK hybrid...
got difference between the two terms ok???

"Toyota HSD is AWESOME tech but it is specialize to certain car model (correct me)"
are u trying to suggest that HSD wont work well unless in a Prius??
you are a fool...
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post Feb 23 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 23 2012, 04:56 PM)
then correct me smile.gif see stupid (did not even read the braket) I ress my case
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I am correcting you, hence the phrase "you are a fool..."



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think at the moment , best hybrid ever.....

at least it is nice to look at

the best hybrid should be out in 2013 which is BMW's i8 featured in the movie Mission Impossible recently...
0-100km in 4.7 seconds and has a FC or 3l/100km...
now that is what we call technology!
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post Feb 24 2012, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Feb 23 2012, 07:04 PM)
The only disappointing part is the hybrid battery warranty, it is only 1 year warranty, *** !!!  doh.gif car itself is 3 years or 100,000KM warranty.

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Bro, i think the battery 1 year waarnty is for the normal battery not the hybrid battery one...that one is 3 years...

btw, I own a Prius...so, about this car, i have quite some experience and knowledge la...not like some Insight ppl here who never ever sat in one b4 but come with their standard anti-toyota nonsense...
in reality, Honda and Toyota both have different directions in their car philosophies...
Toyota markets its realiability although this reputation has been in tatters since the fiasco in the US in 2009....but still way more realiable than a Honda car...
Honda menwhile targets the younger crowd and is definitely better than Toyota if you're a person who prefers good handling in a car...
so, Toyota attracts an older crowd and Honda attracts the younger ones or the petrolheads...

so, there is no argument in this area about both brands...
but for Hybrids, it's a different matter altogether...Toyota has the clear advantage and is definitely a better technology...
and this is where Honda loses out simply because of its car philosophy...
hybrid owners are usually ppl who are more enviromentally aware and not petrolheads and does not mind a reduced handling comfort in a car...
Thus, to hear shit from Honda Insight guys saying that handling is bad in a Prius and Prius has no power is just silly...
the handling part is for sure correct (why would u take corners aggressively in a hybrid though?) but the Power part is nonsense since Toyota has cleverly given a Power mode for its car and most Honda Insight owners do not know this i guess (henceforth u get such misinformed posts in this thread) and are saying this based on traditional knowledge of Toyota cars...

so, there u go! buy a Prius if you are not planning to take corners aggressively and want to save fuel...any other reasons, please go get yourself a Ferrari or something...
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post Feb 24 2012, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Feb 24 2012, 10:08 AM)
I'll take Nissan Leave anytime if my apartment have a power outlet at the carpark... or my office have a power outlet for me to steal electric...
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ei, u stick with the FULL HYBRID laaaa...
u not scared the salesman twist the "facts" ar???


 

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